The Israeli national team manager , Alon Hazan, has offered his opinion on the current debate in his homeland over whether or not Liel Abada should quit Celtic.
“I don’t want to put myself in Abada’s shoes.
“He did sacred work in his national service and asked Celtic’s manager to issue a condemnation against the fans who are known to be anti-Semitic despite there being many Israeli players at the club.”
Abada is in a difficult situation, having grown up in Israel and having perhaps a different viewpoint on Palestine. That is entirely his own issue, and whether or not one agrees with him, it is his opinion, and we have to respect that.
What I do have an issue with is being labelled anti semitic. I guess what we all have an issue with is being labelled anti semitic.
Supporters have called on the board to defend our reputation, and although a spokesman for the club has indeed said as such, the board have remained silent.
And rightly so, bevause something they did a while ago would come back and bite a huge chunk out of their collective arse if they did.
Celtic Diary Saturday November 21 2015: So, I Hear I’m a Racist Now
That was when chairman Iain Bankier defended Lord Livingston of Parkhead, a fellow board member, who he claimed, had been
subject to a torrent of utterly base personal abuse conducted over social media over recent weeks’.
‘The messages posted, in quite a few cases are criminally racist and in all cases the vocabulary chosen is base and highly abusive.
‘And what sickens me to the core is that the campaign is conducted in the name of (Celtic founder) Brother Walfrid.
‘Ian Livingston is a consummately able business executive. We are grateful that he is prepared to devote his time and considerable talents to the affairs of this club.
The fact that he also happens to be a member of the House of Lords creates no conflict of interest with the business of Celtic.
‘We are a football club. We play football – and we are good at it. Our fans come from every quarter of society and share the common bond of supporting the team.
‘We are not a conduit for political statements and campaigns. No fan or section of fans has the right to set up a stall that proclaims political intolerance in the name of what they invariably cite as their club.
‘Our club is not available to anyone for that purpose.
‘I condemn this activity and appeal to you to see it for what it is because intolerance soon leads to hatred and hatred leads to a lot worse as we well know.’
( For a bit of context, Tory Lord Livingston had voted in favour of tax credit cuts for the poor, and it had been pointed out to him that this was against the ethos of our club. )
If our board were to speak out, then I’m fairly certain this would be thrown back at them.
Effectively, Hazan is simply repeating the outrageous claim made by Bankier that Lord Livingston that we are anti semitic, which as we know is nonsense, but a default position of those defending actions that are somewhat unpalatable.
Which is why the board cannot really speak out without making themselves look like hypocrites.
We know they are hypocrites, but they mustn’t appear to be hypocrites.
I’ll say it though.
Waving a Palestinian flag does not make us anti semitic.
Condemning Israeli genocide in Gaza does not make us anti semitic.
It makes us fucking human.
If you condemn the actions of Israel you are anti-Semitic. So if you condemn the actions of the UK are you anti-protestant? Specifically anti-Anglican. The C of E being the established church of the state and holding positions of power in the Lords Spiritual. I have worked with many lovely Jewish people. A very lovely Jewish lady sold me my wife’s engagement ring, asking me about my life and telling me all about hers then offering me a discount (unsolicited) that made her son literally raise his eyebrows. Fergal Sharkey spoke very eloquently on HIGNFY last night on the parallels between NI and Palestine. I think that coach is trying to destabilise our player. Celtic need to speak out against him. We are a club open to everyone. Even dare I say it people whose politics we don’t agree with. And for me that includes Tories.
Getting 3 points up in Dingwall is every bit as tricky as achieving a win at Pittodrie, Tynecastle etc.so we’ll need a high tempo, a high press and be totally ruthless in front of goal. Mustn’t allow another blip like our poor showing at Easter Road last weekend. I’d like to see Oden Holm get a start as he made an impressive contribution when he came on the other night. This is a young player who, although a bit raw and rough around the edges (I’m sure he’ll have learnt from that daft straight red he took in Rotterdam), has shown he has plenty of dig and competitive spirit as well as good awareness and technical ability.
Malky Mackay will no doubt set his team up defensively but even so, the Staggies still have offensive players such as skilful playmaker Yda Dhanda along with frontrunners Simon Murray and Eamonn Brophy who can cause us plenty of bother so, over the piece, I’d be more than happy to take a narrow win.
It’d be good to see more Palestine flags on display at the away end and, in fact, my only gripe is that not too many other fans (football or other sports) from around the world have taken our lead in order to condemn the sick slaughter in Gaza that is being systematically carried out by the Israelis on a daily basis. This kind of protest is not so much political as humanitarian, pure and simple. Enough is enough.
And the support for the people of Israel over the attack killing and abduction of its citizens was shown how
Remember we showed our sympathy with the people of Spain when they were attacked so why not Israel
What Hamas did that fateful day was horrific and has been universally condemned by all except like-minded Islamic radicals. Israel is receiving unconditional support from the world’s greatest superpower along with that of several other powerful nations. We need a sense of perspective here because the Israeli military reaction is completely disproportionate (10,000+ mortal victims in Gaza, most of whom are innocent) and there are absolutely no signs of these massacres stopping any time soon. In short, complete solidarity for any innocent Israeli victims and complete condemnation for the atrocities being commited by the criminal fascist Israeli government. The Palestinian flag represents the Palestinian people, not Hamas.
Hamas was created by Israel, not Palestine, in what they claimed was a counter measure against the ‘Leftist’ PLO but the PLOwere in Israel’s pocket also playing their part in the charade.
However since Israel created Hamas back then it is highly unlikely they’d lose control of it so we can see that they’ve used it specifically for what happened in early October to justify this genocide across Palestine so they can finally seize and claim the entire land for themselves.
‘“Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” Avner Cohen, a former Israeli religious affairs official who worked in Gaza for more than two decades, told the Wall Street Journal in 2009.’
‘Listen to former Israeli officials such as Brig. Gen. Yitzhak Segev, who was the Israeli military governor in Gaza in the early 1980s.
Segev later told a New York Times reporter that he had helped finance the Palestinian Islamist movement as a “counterweight” to the secularists and leftists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and the Fatah party, led by Yasser Arafat (who himself referred to Hamas as “a creature of Israel.”
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Exactly mate. Humanitarian, not political. This is an international disgrace. And Starmer’s a human rights lawyer FFS?!?!? There’s a special place in hell reserved for him, Biden and Sunak.
Waving a Palestinian flag does not make someone anti semetic, the GB can challenge this. PR is used very well by the Israeli state, it uses the anti Semitic label to anyone who challenges the rights to the Palestinian to have exactly what Israel has, its own state.
I was accused of being anti Semitic and told I would be reported for a ‘Hate Crime’ (sic) for calling a Jewish billionaire a Jewish billionaire, and by a well known Celtic blogger at that.
He literally told me that if the email address I’d used was real he was gonna report my comments on Larry Silverstein and his multi billion dollar insurance number on the Twin Towers and Building 7 on 9/11.
Proving how much of this nonsensical propaganda has got into folks’ heads when a prominent Celtic blogger threatens to grass up his own readers with arrest for calling a billionaire a billionaire who just happens to be Jewish.
Thats how cancel culture works so well for the powers that be, by subtly inserting this sort of hysteria into folks’ heads that you’re no longer allowed to say anything, far less the truth, as anyone can now be offended by anything they like and that could land you in serious hot water with the law.
I won’t mention the Celtic Blogger’s name but he knows who he is and should be ashamed of himself.
Or change his blog name to The Ian Bankier Blog in honour of his likeminded crackpot cancel culture compatriot.
you are an anti semitic c,unt.
do you know what that is?
I am anti Zionist.
And, since the true inhabitants of the region, the Palestinians, are the only people who could truly call themselves Semites, and I support the Palestinians, AND the Jewish people who are suffering, I think you’ve just made a complete fool of yourself all over again, cvnto.
So nae luck, cvnto.
Nae luck at aw.
Now fvck off since I’ve made my stance clear,
Tell us.
What does Semite mean?
I know you don’t know so here you go.
You can thank me when you’re ready for kicking your ignorance into touch:
’Semite, name given in the 19th century to a member of any people who speak one of the Semitic languages, a family of languages spoken primarily in parts of western Asia and Africa. The term therefore came to include Arabs, Akkadians, Canaanites, Hebrews, some Ethiopians (including the Amhara and the Tigravans), and Aramean tribes.’
So there you go, fool, you’ve just learned something today thanks to me so cut it with the insults or I’ll roast you so bad you’ll do as others have wisely done and never show your unwanted face here again.
https ://www.britannica.com/ topic/ Semite
You didn’t know that Arabs are Semites too, did you, D1ckie?
Or that Ethiopians can be Semites too, did you, D1ckie?
In your blind propagandised Zionist ignorance you thought the term was solely reserved for Jews, didn’t you, D1ckie?
Try again D1ckie.
No dinner for you tonight, D1ckie.
No drink either, as it’ll just taste bitter now, now that I’ve shown you up for the blind reactionary philistine that you are.
No pal. You’re an ill-advised ignoramus. Shut up when the adults are talking.
wow a gagging order, are the books on the bonfire yet
No, but your arse is cos I put it there.
Now burn, you sick minded cvnt.
how fo you know? do you still live with mammy and daddy?
Btw, D1ckie, you owe me both thanks and an apology …
Thanks for my educating you as to what the word Semite really means rather than what you thought it meant and the apology for calling me ‘anti Semitic’(sic).
So hurry up.
People are offended by anything they want in this day and age and everybody backs their right to be offended – regardless of how nonsensical their claim may be. I remember reading years ago about some true blue crackpot attending a swimmig pool in Lanarkshire (Motherwell or Hamilton, I’m not sure) and marching out in a huff with his kids demanding the council closed down the pool immediately because of “sectarian music blaring” over the tannoy system. The DJ had selected a 60s/70s compilation CD which included hits from Herman’s Hermits, the Kinks, the Monkeys etc. But also included the demonic You’ll Never Walk Alone by Gerry and the Pacemakers. Is it me that’s daft?
Aye, but the hypocrisy of the Palestinian flag being the only flag that cannot be flown at any football ground without sanction tells us all about who is really running both the game and this world.
Ajax fly the Star of David repeatedly even at Euro games and have never been sanctioned nor fined once as far as I’m aware and as for the flying of the butcher’s apron, well, the millennia of blood on that flag will never wash off.
The world is run by genocidal sociopaths.
Spot on
‘To find out who rules over you just find out who you’re not allowed to criticise.’
For example …
’‘Government officials have drawn up deeply controversial proposals to broaden the definition of extremism to include anyone who “undermines” the country’s institutions and its values
Last week the home secretary, Suella Braverman, described pro-Palestinian demonstrations in London as “hate marches”, prompting dismay from many participants who consider themselves peace campaigners.’
https ://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/ nov/04/ plans-to-redefine-extremism-would-include-undermining-uk-values
I was in a boozer when a knuckle dragger took offence to the green fields of France. You can’t put brains in potted heed.
Good article and its important to remember that Bankier used exactly the same language to demonise Celtic fans.
For completeleness its worth noting that although he was wretched on the poor, Livingston never resorted to such tactics.
On Abada, as far as I’m aware, he’s only issued one statement which was a humanitarian one and hasn’t received any abuse and neither he should.
“Bad” reply to Yoker rocked to the mods. 🙁
How do we get that cringe of a John Knox song away from the terraces again?
Agree. I’m sure there is many a priest who would love to see the faces singing that song at mass and not just christenings and weddings.
Pretty decent showing overall. Being down to ten men early on the County boys were bound to tire in the second half but they held on firmly by packing their box for too long so just as well Turnbull finally did the business on the nick of half time. Daezen was bang on line with the defender and Oh’s goal should definitely have stood.
Better stuff in the second half and 3 excellent goals at the end of the day. What a belter and what a delivery to Forrest from Don Luis, who might just do us a nice wee turn in Madrid on Tuesday night.
Well done lads.
Why can’t Kyogo take penalties? I’ll never understand why an out and out striker would delegate that task to others.
It was a bit of an eye bleed til Turnbull’s strike but Palma’s goal and assist were well worth the waiting for.
And I agree that Oh’s goal should have stood, even the BBC have said that the offside lines were dodgy.
Crawford Allan OUT.
Sack The SFA.
Anti-Semitic what does that mean with these hysterical idiots. Semitic is a term used for a group of Middle Eastern languages, which funnily enough includes Arabic, Aramaic, Hebrew etc; it does not refer to Judaism alone, but the peoples of the Middle East.
As usual wild statements are being flung about, as the brutes and gangsters of both sides murder innocent children in the name of whatever God they claim to wrap themselves up in, the truth it is the God of kerching.
Many people are stating it is wrong to take a political stance, think back to the fifties and the demand that the tricolour be taken down at. Celtic Park, if people stand by then the thugs win, with their hatred.
The football club was set up for all, everyone welcome, enough said, also if any player or staff member does not with to play for the club there is the door.
Well said, CV, but there is no war.
It takes two countries and two armies to make a war and Palestine has neither.
The Zionists created Hamas specifically so they could create this False Flag ‘attack’ on Israel as an excuse to wipe Palestine off the map.
Amazing how many Zionists are in the Celtic support, though it could just be Doughball, JimBob and wee ‘Nae D1ckie’ logging in and out to make themselves look like even bigger petty clowns than what everybody already knows they are.
Beeb article – Teenage girl ‘sexually assaulted’ during football match
“The incident allegedly took place during the Dundee vs Rangers game at Dens Park within the Bob Shankly stand, where away fans sit.”
Mm, wonder if they’d title it the same if it was Tic fans involved.
Do you think this will cause pause in their relentless “paedo” chants? Me, neither.
Avery solid win yesterday up north. The team are getting results. While the Hibs game was disappointing we have had a good few games and wins as well as the game against Madrid. The media and others will always try to split the Celtic support on all kinds of topics unrelated to Celtic. We have to be vigilant that we do not allow that to happen.
Meanwhile at the National Stadium rockets firing rockets into the roof. As if Bradford never happened. Consequences? Nah nothing to see here.
Mostly PISH that, BB.
Breaking news! Micky Beale was a car crash in interviews but my darling Clement time is Mandelaesque. FFS they get paid to say this in the old journalistic tradition of real time. Sportsound total garbage.
But they said at first that Motormouth Mickey was ‘eloquent & articulate’ …
We’ll see how measured Clement Freud is when the sell their goalie to buy kids and loanees in January.
He didn’t really look very measured at all in those photies where he looked like Lurch or that guy outtta Twin Peaks who kept saying ‘It’s happening again’ to be fair.
Happiness always eludes us.
Often Port, not always.
Unless ye’re Ken Dodd.
When it comes to European competitions, we are just so juvenile to the game.
Brendan Rodgers……. in a name. JUVENILE in Europe.
We started like we were playing fukkin airdrie……..
I HAD to stop watching when Daizen was made an exhibition of CHEATING.
Considering the softest goal in football: our defender heads a ‘clearance’ straight to that little shit Greasy and he makes poor contact and Big Joe can’t even deal with it? FFS, juvenile from the start.
But don’t forget the refs true mission,
To get the ‘top leagues’ in position,
To con supporters, French and Freisian,
And clap the phonies self adhesion.
Fair comment though this is the board’s fault for failing to invest, TT.
Brendan said pre season we needed bigger, stronger and better quality players and ‘someone’ behind the scenes hamstrung him by buying yet another 20 projects or whatever the fvck the amount was.
How can any manager get a tune out of a team when he only has rookies, crocks and loanees to really work with and every time we hit a good player he’s sold before breakfast, every feckin year?
I mean, Bernardo, ffs, they’d have been better aff playing the dug wae the rum bottle roon its neck.
Fair comment though this is the board’s fault for failing to invest, TT.
Brendan said pre season we needed bigger, stronger and better quality players and ‘someone’ behind the scenes hamstrung by buying yet another 20 projects or whatever the fvck the amount was.
How can any manager get a tune out of a team when he only has rookies, crocks and loanees to really work with and every time we hit a good player he’s sold before breakfast, every feckin year?
I mean, Bernardo, ffs, they’d have been better aff playing the dug wae the rum bottle roon its neck.
while this flag waving business is going on we are making absolute c,unts of ourselves on a football pitch in Madrid.
You, cvnt …
You owe me both thanks and an apology.
Whats wrong, you can’t see my writings, but only those you think you can bully, like the slithering self sucking w@nkshaft you are?
Time for your Benzodiazepine
He’s a troll, who only comes on here to sow divisions.
Best ignored and not getting any bites he’ll slither back to where he came from.
this guy is trolling himself,,
We KNOW you’re trolling yourself, D1ckie.
You’ve fvck all else to do.
I know, Cha, but I enjoy slapping the cvnt about anyway.
‘while this flag waving business is going on we are making absolute c,unts of ourselves on a football pitch in Madrid.’
No, D1ckie, YOU are the only cvnt making a cvnt of yourself here.
Though being a natural born cvnt like you I guess a cvnt like you cvnt help it.
JimBob, Doughball & D1ckie …
Quite the pervy threesome …
in the group with all the most hoaching teams we are bottom. hoaching amongst the hoaching.
Sooky Sooky …
How does yer ain d1ck taste, D1ckie?
i would give you a go to find out for yourself but im fussy where i put it
You don’t have a d1ck, D1ckie …
Thats why you had to put in your name, to make up for your lack and loss.
Nae luck, D1ckie.
Nae luck at aw.
And you the most hoaching of all.
You Zionist scumbag.
Nice to see Doughball n JimBob back with their customary Plural Thumbs Down for ol Gringo …
Here, JimBob, that was a laugh and a half to see you get yer arse handed to ye on a plate on the Grassing Zionist Blog yesterday when you tried to plead ‘Anti Irish Racism’ against the SFA and that Irish Bhoy told ye that Irish is not a race and there’s only 5 races on Earth and us Irish are Caucasoid/Caucasian 😀
Come on now, JimBob, even you in your pompous prickly conservative self up indulgent ways have to let yer dungaree breeches down for that wan, no?
And mind and tell Phil …
As he seems to be labouring under the same stupid bastardised delusion that you are in thinking that ‘Irish’ is a race, despite his constant boasting about the many years of ‘schooling’ he’s had, and him still not knowing there are only 5 different races on the entire Earth and Irish isn’t one of dem.
And tell him Ah sent ye mind der now der now …
I’ll tell ye one thing, Ralph, that’s great about this being Anti Semitic is, ye can go anywhere ye like and everybody recognises ye as the target of not just the Israeli National, Team Coach but as a bona fide free thinker!
I love it, me, though I have this terrible suspicion it might see me in trouble somewhere down the line …
For being against a GENOCIDE…
Do you think the Israeli football teams should be banned from Europe like the Soviets?
The SOVIETS?
You live in a cave, yes?
The SOVIETS were demolished 34 years ago, dear!
Didn’t you notice?
😀
f,uckwit political forum this way
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do you ever post about football, do you know what that is
i wouldn’t worry, i doubt if they are going to let you out
Do you know what the word Semite means, D1ckie?
Pray tell …
What does the word Semite mean, D1ckie?
Remind us so you can remind yourself …
I’ll give you a clue …
It does NOT MEAN Jewish …
You getting it yet?
Hmm, D1ckie ..?
To be fair, this Anti Palestine attack the site’s just experienced might not be Nae D1ckie and his wee jealous threesome partners at all but an infiltration from one or two other sites that have been alerted to my presence, both of whom have castigated The Green Brigade upside down these past few weeks, all the while boasting about their eating in fancy restaurants while The Green Brigade do all they can to put food into the mouths of the poor …
Aye, there are Celtic fans and there are Celtic fans alright.
And these two clowns have already proven who they are, for all their fat boasts out their fat Zionist Brit worshipping mouths.
And they know who they are and now we do too, thanks to their own pompous loudmouthed stupidity while licking each others’ boabies and sphincters.
More shame on both of them now, now that they’ve tied their colours to the Zionist mast in support of our Zionist Masonic board.
PLC useless Fvckpigs, Morons, Cvnts.
Celts 2-0.
Is it noticed? Not the spine but left to right of and all.
But selt you Celts. Been shaded us.
Da da da
New Zealand have soccer players.
Big Club.
THERE IS NO AWAITING THE TRUTH, OUR MDFIELD HAVE A 4 YEAR DEAL.
I
Millionaires told thank you.
They say Celtic PR are Shite. Can not catch, get booked. Jesus on a bike!
There`s been a midfielder who canny turn and catch to help who gives away a freekick no matter the booking.
I
ve wrote and lost you Celtic. There goes my ankle again. Brains fine.