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Ronny Deila – Not Good Enough To Remain Celtic Manager

I usually struggle with penning negative articles. As a relatively positive person it can be hard focusing on the downside of someone, particularly if that person comes across as a top drawer human being.

In my eyes Ronny Deila is a good man. Hard working, has a positive outlook and strives to bring the best out of others. As a person it’s hard to find fault with Ronny as he ticks most of the boxes I like to see in a person.

Ronny is also the manager of Celtic. After eighteen months in charge and putting in place his own style of play and his own players it’s now fair enough to make an assessment based on his work to date.

In my view it’s just not good enough.

Domestically Ronny is the most fortunate person ever to have managed Celtic. The demise of Rangers left Ronny with no serious contender for the league title due to the enormous budgetary advantage he has over all other top tier clubs. Aberdeen, Hearts and co deal primarily deal on free transfers while Ronny has the luxury of being the only manager who can spend in the region of £2m on players. His player wage budget also completely dwarves all other clubs making the SPFL in financial terms one of, if not thee, most one-sided leagues in Europe.

With the advantage Ronny has domestically any football manager (OK, perhaps not Ally McCoist) should be able to win the league title quite comfortably.

The true test of Ronny’s abilities as a manager must be primarily judged in my view on the European stage. Where to begin…

I gave Ronny the benefit of the doubt last year even after being destroyed by a poor Legia team. He was just in and was trying to rebuild a team that played ‘his style of play’ which going by his comments would be significantly different to anything we’d seen in years at Celtic. It would be high pressing, high tempo, quick passing, aggressive, all out attacking, rip roaring, sweating with flair fitba. Yeah I was excited.

We got to New Year and then really kicked on for a few months. The defence looked settled, Bitton was impressing and the purchase of Armstrong and Mackay-Steven from Dundee United gave us added energy and pace. We looked a decent team and gave Inter a good battle over two legs. With the exception of his continual use of Guidetti who had made it clear his future lay elsewhere, the signs generally appeared positive as we prepared for this season.

As expected Denayer returned to Man City and in return we purchased another young Belgian centre half in the form of Dedryck Boyata. We also added Saidy Janko from Man Utd and cashed in Adam Matthews cheaply for £2m to Sunderland. Zaluska was let go and he was replaced by Logan Bailly. Common sense told us all that Van Dijk was going after our involvement had ended in the Champions League qualifiers and we brought in relatively lately Nadir Ciftci from Dundee United. A player who was pretty certain to suffer a domestic ban after biting an opponent in his last Dundee derby!

We ended the season on a positive but again from a decent position failed to strengthen the team. Same old, same old.

Irrespective of all that, Deila was confident he had the players to qualify for the Champions League and telling everyone his team would progress to the next stage in their development…

We were embarrassed by Malmo in the Champions League second leg after having the game in our hands at Celtic Park. 2-0 up and cruising is the time you expect the manager to use tactical nous and keep it nice and tight. Bring them up the park and hit their dreadful defence on the break…nope….harem scarem tactics as we chase a third goal allowing them to make it 2-1 on the break…..Yes, on the break!

Deila loss to Malmo

The game in Sweden was embarrassing. Yet again our inability to defend basic set pieces was exploited as they scored two goals and won easily on the night. A team with a budget a lot less than ours completely outplayed us.

Just as you thought it couldn’t get any worse along comes the Europa League.

6 games played, 3 draws, 3 losses and 0 wins. Losing easily home and away to Molde (if they’d scored 5 goals in Norway it would have given their complete domination justice) a team again costing a fraction of Celtic’s. Once more Ronny trots out the same tiresome lines about the team “learning from these games” but for me that’s the issue….Ronny and HIS team don’t learn….they make the same mistakes time after time. Our defence is the most wide open since the days of the early 1990’s (a cold shiver runs down the spine of fans of a certain vintage!) and Ronny and his coaching staff do not know how to organise a defence.

12 goals conceded in six Europa League games and four against Malmo. It’s beyond shambolic, it’s amateurish.

I made my view clear during our European debacle that Ronny could not be trusted to lead Celtic into Europe next season. Pumped by Legia, given the most incredible get out of jail card and then beaten by Maribor. Pumped by Malmo and then pumped by Molde. These aren’t top European teams with massive budgets. These are second tier teams who would kill for our playing budget and we are being outclassed by them.

I stood by the view the Celtic board should plan for next season by bringing an experienced coach in at the end of this season and allow Ronny to see out the remainder of the domestic campaign and bring home the league. After Saturday’s thumping by Motherwell….don’t let the scoreline fool you…..I now think it’s best for all concerned that we allow a new manager this January transfer window and the next to a) secure the league (I’m unfortunately serous here) and b) give the new person as much of an opportunity to plan ahead for next seasons European campaign with the players he wants.

Losing to Motherwell at Celtic Park on Saturday is something that’s happened to us many times through the years. The far bigger issue was the manner of defeat. We were outfought, outplayed and outcoached by a Mark McGhee Motherwell team who read our all too familiar tactics like a book.

We are slow in possession allowing opponents to quickly regroup. Our defence plays high and opposition teams know you hit defensive channels to areas vacated by our full backs as we leave two centre backs on their own and can be easily exploited…just as St Johnstone did the week before with Craig Gordon thankfully saving our first half skins. If it wasn’t for poor finishing and Craig Gordon’s saves (again) Motherwell could and should have scored FIVE goals at Celtic Park. The result may have been a 2-1 loss that should not fool anyone. We were torn apart by a team made up Scott McDonald and some other players from the lower leagues of English football who would get nowhere near the Celtic team….although watching on Saturday you’d never for one second believe that.

There’s also the dreaded Deila curse of signing players then playing them out of position. Stuart Armstrong and Scott Allan, both players who caught the manager’s eye playing central/attacking midfield are infuriatingly played out wide on the left. I genuinely scratch my head and struggle to think of a reason for this. It’s like John Barnes playing Stan Petrov at right back or Tony Mowbray playing Scott Brown at full back….you sit and think why on earth are you doing this? If you want to play someone out wide left then why not purchase a player who actually plays well in that position? It’s the Ronny Deila square pegs in round holes routine. Rather than play a system that suits the players purchased, he instead takes the option of making life difficult for the players and himself by determining the system must come first before pragmatism and plain old good management.

You then look at our style of play and I use the word style very loosely. Ronny promised us high energy. He promised us a team with incredible fitness levels. He promised us quick passing. He promised us attacking fitba. Bar a 2-3 month period in early 2015 it’s been slow and ponderous rubbish. Yes, we get short fleeting glimpses like the first half v Malmo but before you know it’s gone after we concede another dreadfully easy goal knocking the stuffing out of the team. Even games we have won recently at Ross County, St Johnstone and others those opponents have had gilt edged chances to punish us with only poor finishing from domestic opponents stopping us having far less points than we currently have.

The football we are witnessing is desperate most of the time with one striker getting little support as our back two pass to our two central midfielders who pass to one of our full backs before receiving a return ball and recycling it to the centre halves. It’s boring rubbish and nothing like the wonderful vision Ronny talks of.

He’s like a football managerial equivalent of Del Boy Trotter as he tells us the two bob watch we are paying to look at is a top of the range Rolex.

I’ve seen enough of Ronny to see far too many similarities between him and the afore-mentioned Barnes and Mowbray to know where this is going. We may (bloody should) win a few more games on the bounce due to the enormous financial gulf between our squad and our opponent’s relative pittance. The reality for me is any run of victories will only paper over a multitude of cracks.

If a manager cannot organise a team to do basic defending after 18 months and doesn’t learn any lessons there’s little hope this will ever change. If a manager plays one in attack at home in the SPFL what hope he will ever learn? If a manager buys players and moves them out of position what hope he will ever learn? If a manager needs two players to play central midfield and not one of them can provide cover as defensive mid what hope he will ever learn? If a manager is continuously turned over in Europe by teams with a fraction of a budget what hope he will ever learn?

In my view Ronny cannot be trusted with spending funds in January and any transfer budget should be set aside for a new experienced manager to build his own team over the next months and then supplement it during the summer for (ideally) another crack at qualifying for the Champions League. The best part of somewhere between £40-50m in revenue, the vast majority of which is clear profit, has been lost to Celtic due to failure to quality for the big boys table in European football. The risk based on what Ronny’s done in Europe to date is far too high and cannot continue. The Celtic board should get in place a manager who can organise a team in Europe but also play attacking football domestically. Our budget may not be massive in European terms but it shites all over Malmo, Molde, Maribor and others and is a challenge a large number of suitably qualified managers would kick down the door to work for Celtic.

It’s time for Peter Lawwell and the Celtic board to stop the penny pinching and do the right thing for Celtic. With crowds dwindling due to the dire football on display it needs the board to display leadership and source Europe or further afield for the best qualified manager and allow him to manage the club the best way he sees fit.

Deila and Lawwell

Failure to do so should not just see the end of Ronny – but also the end of Lawwell and those steering the club who are ultimately responsible for the appalling onfield displays and dwindling revenues we are witnessing.

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bgbhoy
7 years ago

100% correct… theres is no defence of the man now!! charlie saiz and co need to realise this… i dont believe all the ronny doubters actually go to the games!!! be that through where they live etc… but if you go every week and see whats going on you will not see in developmetn or progress!! DEILA OUT NOW!!!

FrdCDobbs
7 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

any manager in the world would be pish with the backing this man gets. The board are laughing coz when it all goes pete tong becuase they are shite the manager gets the blame. Lennon fucking off was only the start. Its going to get much worse.

bgbhoy
7 years ago

** RONNY LOVERS THAT SHOULD SAY

Mike Annis
7 years ago

A hard read and sad indictment of what we are witnessing but so so true. How anyone still backs this idiot is beyond me. Loyalty should never be a mask for inadequacy and aronnie has shown nothing except an ability to waffle,

Charlie Saiz
7 years ago
Reply to  Mike Annis

2 Trophies don’t count then?

Mike Annis
7 years ago
Reply to  Mike Annis

Just two? If you’re satisfiried with what you’re satisfied with what Ronnie churns out then you obviously have a very low tolerance threshold or just like to be different.

andybhoy
7 years ago
Reply to  Mike Annis

Quite right Mike.

Charlie Saiz
7 years ago
Reply to  Mike Annis

No I’m just fully aware of the factors that have affected this Season (and last) from the get go taken them into account and know there is plenty more to come from a PROVEN Manager on a tight budget.
2 trophies first Season was about right.
He did that ..he lamost did 3 ffs.
This Season 3 is attainable but again very difficult.
When the likes of Mulgrew Brown and Johansen return and hit FORM this side will be an entirely different animal.

jebus
7 years ago

what about the players who are more of a reason for us being poor? No matter who the manager is we will still be stuck with the same honking players? I have yet to see celtic cyberspace go into meltdown and pen negative articles about the imposters in the hoops? The way the board and scouting system spend money or not, are more of a problem than who the manager is!!

7 years ago
Reply to  jebus

Jebus,can you remember when Deila arrived at parkhead ??.We got humped out of the CL qualifiers by nobodies,not once but twice.
The season that had just ended we made the CL group stage,and won the premier league by the length of the London road.Now guess who were in the squad at the beginning of Deila’s management,every single player who was there the season before.So don’t blame the players. HH

jebus
7 years ago
Reply to  owen dolan

I can owen, i can also remember Forster, Virgil, Denayer, Hooper, Ledley 5 players that carried and i mean CARRIED us through games. The majority of our starting 11 now are either squad players from 3-4 years ago, guys on the decline lustig, brown, izzy or effing dundee utd players. Its sad to say but next years team will be even weaker, the manager isnt great but he is not the main cause of our pishness, park and lawell sign the crap we have on the field and they still will whoever is in charge. Get used to getting pumped in europe because as long as we continue the signing policy we have it WILL happen over and over.

Charlie Saiz
7 years ago
Reply to  jebus

Look mammy a realist has spoken.
Well said and it had to be said the delusion is palpable now within our support.
Spending way too much time talking about 2angers no doubt and it’s now rubbed off.

We were poor in Europe in Lennys last season gubbed in the group and narrowly squeezed by the most one dimensional team I have ever seen in Europe the big punt sheep killing masters of Kazakhstan.
The writing was on the wall then.

Peter Murphy
7 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

We finished last in the Champions league group two years ago and now we have finished last in the Europa League group this seas on three points out of eighteen just about says it all .

Sean e voy
7 years ago
Reply to  jebus

Agree with you entirely!!!!
Too many players just not Celtic class – against Motherwell 8 (yes 8 !!!!) of our bhoys were useless.
That is not the fault of the manager.
Hail Hail

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  owen dolan

Deila dropped Kris Commons, the previous years player of the year….for a guy who couldn’t get a game for Cardiff?

Charlie Saiz
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

He dropped Johansen this season for Rogic I didn’t here many complaints.

Charlie Saiz
7 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Hear’

Phaco
7 years ago
Reply to  jebus

That’s exactly why we need a manager to kick them up the arse when needed. I’ve given Ronnie as much space as I can but time to f- ck off . Big Yogi for me. Honest and true, what else can you ask for?. Hh

7 years ago

I had been a CELTIC TV member for years, but had given it up due the crap that the team plays under DEILA. As usual the board took the cheap way out by hiring an unheard of coach, which has cost the club millions. You can’t make a silk purse out of a SOWS , wake up and get an experienced coach.

bgbhoy
7 years ago

jebus!? really? so what about the abuse that efe ambrose or james forrest get all the time? most of it totally unjust!! ive said it before and i will say it again.. this manager has made good players average and average players terrible!! boyata?? he played 7 times for man city last year.. he cant be a total dud!!

jebus
7 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

if boyata was any good he wouldnt be playing in scotland, man city fans thought he was a donkey and we get to see why every week now. Forrest and efe do get unjust abuse but thats not down to the manager its just down to fans being fuds, even if they 2 have a good game the same boo boys refuse to admit it, it doesnt suit there agenda.

JamesQ
7 years ago

Agree 100% Ronnie is a nice guy and I believe he thinks he knows what he’s talking about but it is blatantly obvious he hasnt got a clue,he sticks by the same format week in week out no matter who we are playing.he is incapable of changing things ie players,formatons tactics.
Its the same excuses when we lose.bottom line is he has had more than enough chances,its time to go and go now before the transfer window kicks in.I wouldnt trust him with a penny anymore and its time Lawell grew a pair and got shot of him now,if he’s not capable of identifying this he should also go now.Remember Lawell picks up about £1m a year from us.Now is the time to earn it.

The Silver Fhox
7 years ago
Reply to  JamesQ

He talks a good game but he cannot walk the talk.

Charlie Saiz
7 years ago

He’s walked the walk 4 times so far as a Manager.
2 League Titles and 2 Cups in two Countries.
He’s now walking towards a 3rd League Title.

Southside
7 years ago

The man has got to go was at the debacle against Motherwell and it could easily have been a real doing.
Commons out of position on the right and frankly didn’t look interested. Forest on the left when he is better on the right. Macgregor out of position as a defensive midfielder . Biton absolutely shocking. Entire team panic after going a goal behind complete loss of shape.
Word of support for Boyata I know he is not the best but he is being left totally exposed by the right back and by the defensive midfield in front of him.
What has Stokes a 70 plus goal score for us done that he cannot get into this side?Perhaps he told Ronnie I am not a left winger and don’t want to play out of position.
Enough is enough the atmosphere on Saturday was horrible the man has to go.

Phaco
7 years ago
Reply to  Southside

Totally agree south side , it is a team game, you cover one and other. We all win or we all loose.( that includes management department). Hh

The Silver Fhox
7 years ago
Reply to  Southside

Absolutely agree Southside. Players out of position, no plan B, no tactics and Boyata left exposed. This poor guy gets left exposed every week and I believe he is being let down. Managers time is up and his lackeys can go with him. If not – watch attendances plummet! There was no anger in the support on Saturday, but the atmosphere at the end and the talk was of a determined nature. The fans have had it. Even the notoriously supportive main stand fans did not clap the players as they came off. Wake up board.

BondiBrian
7 years ago

‘notoriously’ Hmmmmmm.

deadhead67
7 years ago

The players have lost faith in RD,THEY LOOK DEMORALISED ESPECIALLY AT HOME 1 goal in last 3 home games 2 points from 9,bbeaten by a team with very average ex celts at end of their careers,about 2-3 shots on target,the signs wee there last season we won the league by 17 pts,sounds good,but it was well over 3o pts,in Lennons last season.
we buy shit from garbage SPL teams are we turning into Dundee utd ,our results in europe seem very similar to theirs,who bought them RD or Lawwell ,hard to tell ,Lawell certainly had a hand with previous signings,getting rid O ledley because he was the highest earner,and bringing in Johansen for a much smaller wage,people know iv,e been against RD since the very start,after THE LEGIA warsaw debacle,wish I had been proved wrong but I havent,he should have been a man and resigned on Saturday night,given that did not happen the board should have sacked him ,as quickly as they could,the cost cutting is just costing us millions,season book sales down,celtic park half empty,and getting emptier,change needed and needed quick,10 in a row your havin a ,laugh

mike
7 years ago

Hector,
Your article says it all,I still beleive that Ronny was the Panic Buy to keep Keane from the Managers job.
To be fair i dont think Ronny stood a chance with everyone knowing he was to be the No2.
Once again all this proves is that you can be good in theory but nothing beats experience.
All that matters is the club and if we lose further ground to the sheep at the weekend i can see him being sacked before the end of the month.

deadhead67
7 years ago
Reply to  mike

Why wait till it,s too late get rid now.

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  deadhead67

Agree with that deadhead67 but its not up to me.

Phaco
7 years ago
Reply to  deadhead67

You are not the c- nt they think you are, or am I mistaken. Hh. I

Devoy45
7 years ago

Ronny is not an idiot. I’m not an idiot either. I do attend home matches. I don’t go to away games and I can no longer travel to Continental matches. I’m an auld fart on a basic state pension. Full credit to all of you who support the team better than I am able. I hope you’re not telling me that having money and time makes you a better fan than me? That means Desmond is our best supporter of all! I am seeing some of the same dire shite that all of you saw on Saturday. Ronny is trying to do something different and maybe he will fail. Hector’s is the best anti-Ronny piece I’ve read and I have no answer to it right now. I’m not an idiot but time will tell. Don’t fear my opinion too much. I admit I once wanted Lou Macari in and Mowbray as well! We must win the league this season and if Hector is right, we would have to act soon. The next few matches may be enough to tell anyway. I am excited about a future with Tierney, Armstrong, Mackay-Steven, Allan,Henderson, McGregor, Griffiths, etc. No past Celtic manager has ever given youth such a chance. Our future in Europe depends on young, mainly Scottish players who are fit, gallus and confident. Youngsters sometimes learn by failing (Motherwell) I am not a prophet. I just think we owe the man more time; he may not prove to be a great manager but he is not an idiot or clown. Let’s keep the debate real. That’s what Hector has just done. We both can’t be right so there will be interesting times ahead.Please, no Moyes, Keane or that inflated cheating cunt Mourinho. ‘Special one’ my arse. He doesn’t have the sense to prove that if he was a real manager, he could take a team like Celtic far into Europe. Now that would be a challenge, without an oligarch’s millions to back him up. I could also see a lot on this site getting rid of Alex Ferguson at Man Utd. in his earliest years there. There is an old football opinion that you need three years to go a good job: one to learn, two to alter and a third to impose your style. Why is an old man like me more patient than all you young whippersnappers? I also know there are older/better fans than me on this forum who also want Ronny out. I don’t mind being in a minority on this one. Minorities have an irritating way of being right.

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  Devoy45

Are you sure you aren’t stupid? 🙂

John Kane
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Great response Devoy45. No I don’t think you are in the minority of fans who believe Ronnie should be given the time to complete what he started and that is to bring through young players and give local lads the chance. I still believe we’ll win the league comfortably. We may not win the Treble, but I don’t subscribe to the view that we must win it. It’s disrespectful to those teams who have won the cups in recent years. We have no divine right to win everything and as far as Europe is concerned the decline started under Lennon with better players at his disposal. I have followed Celtic for over 50 years and have seen the highs and the lows. I can assure you compared to previous lows this current so called tragedy is nothing and anyhow who are we going to bring in? John Hughes is doing a good job at Inverness, but this is Celtic and a much, much bigger challenge. By the way, what a great article even though I have to disagree with the underlying sentiment expressed. If somehow we don’t win the SPFL I will of course revise my opinion. HH.

gerard
7 years ago

I am sorry to say that the time has come to move ronny on. Yes its nice seeing youngesters being given a chance something that has been lacking in the last few years. But who do we get in? I can see an Owen Coyle appointment or Roy Keane. Time to send for Moyes.

Monti
7 years ago

Excellent article Hector,
We all wanted Ronny to do well, why wouldn’t we?
It has failed miserably

andybhoy
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Yep, and the failure has been staring us in the face for months.

bob
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

You would know about failure eh Mongti?

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  bob

Go on…..

John
7 years ago

Can’t disagree. What really frightened me was Ronny writing off Aberdeen’s title chances. How can he be so stupid? They are right on our tails and deserve respect for their challenge.

Donnie Bhoy
7 years ago

Couldn’t agree more. Never liked calling for a Celtic manager to get dumped, but this time I fully believe it is needed. The performances recently have been absolutely shocking, and I don’t see any signs of it improving.

ewanbhoy
7 years ago

i think what will determine on whether Ronny going now or being given a little more time is if our board can get a manager good enough who will take the job.
its a sad fact that Ronny seams to be going backwards now with the team and if his time is up so be it but please show some respect and some class and stop the name calling, lets remember he is the Celtic manager who is giving his all but some of the things being said against him is a bit brutal and he doesnt deserve that.

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  ewanbhoy

He get’s well paid to take praise and criticism.
Celtic is more important than any one individual!

Joe
7 years ago

Spot on. He is a disgrace and should never have been hired. Our lack of ambition is evident when we select the level of management Ronny brings. We have blown the chance to be so far out of sight of the rest for years to come by our dilly-dallying on this.
To me saving two million quid a year on such a bad choice of manager while you lose upwards of twenty million per year in failures, i.e. Europe embarrassments, is bad management of our money. Spend the extra couple of million quid and get a manager who can do the business. Next year, like it or not, Sevco will be in the SPL and the corruption which cost the old club existence will be afforded the replacement club. WE should be out of sight, but instead, have gone backwards. Ronny is frankly, a joke.

BondiBrian
7 years ago
Reply to  Joe

Joe, pray tell which manager would take Ronnys place. There doesnay seem to be a big pool to pick from.

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  BondiBrian

David Moyes
Brendan Rodgers
Gordon Strachan
Michael O’Neill
Paul Lambert

DanThe Man
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Pmsl to coin a phrase! Great List of Failures there and MON this is the man who dropped us like a hot potato when he was told he was having his budget cut and what has he achieved since and don’t say he qualified for the Euros . Gordon Strachan is the only one who would get my vote but we did a Ronny with him the only thing was he jumped before fan power got him sacked. DM is a failure BR is a failure PL is a failure and even worse he turned his back on us before Lennon was appointed .Got any more on your Santa’s list Monti? ☘☘☘ PS the only one I haven’t seen mentioned is Alex McLeish he is another failure and. Hun to boot.☘☘☘

DanThe Man
7 years ago
Reply to  DanThe Man

Yes I know MON is not on your shopping list but every time O’Neill appears in connection with Celtic my Blood boils.☘☘☘

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  DanThe Man

You asked for a list and you got one, why not put up a list of your own?

John
7 years ago
Reply to  DanThe Man

MON left as his wife was seriously ill.

DanThe Man
7 years ago
Reply to  DanThe Man

Celtic offered him a sabbatical and he refused to stay. He wanted our. ☘☘☘

BondiBrian
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Och c’mon Monti yi really canny be that deluded surely.

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  BondiBrian

Ssshhhhh

BondiBrian
7 years ago
Reply to  BondiBrian

Ssshhhh ite riposte Monitzuma.

Must try harder.

Kombuchis
7 years ago

Totally understand your frustration, but any criticism of Deila’s tactics is always met with a response of “it’s the board, he’s had no money, the players are shite, you’re not a real Celtic fan, can you help me wi ma Magna Doodle”.

This is an uninspiring Celtic team, with an even more uninspiring manager and a detached board. This won’t change so I’ve learned to get used to it, I suggest you do to.
It will save you a lot of stress and earache.

That said, we’ve been shite more times than we’ve been good this season.

GOOD;
Dundee Utd away,
1st half vs Malmo,
Dundee home,
Ajax away,
Aberdeen home,
Ross County away,
Inverness away
& St Johnstone away

SHITE;
Malmo away,
Aberdeen away,
Hearts home,
Molde home,
Molde away,
Killie home,
Ajax home,
Motherwell home.

delbhoy
7 years ago

I agree with bgbhoy, ive said before on here when strachen was in charge the football was dyre, i used to go to the tavern at half time it was that bad. Its worse now. I remember going under burns and jansen and we were a joy to watch, none of this pish

Kmack
7 years ago

Don’t think the ‘attacking’ fitba angle stands up here, been on this site listening to fans criticize the dire fitba from every manager we’ve had since O’Neill. Fact is we loved Lennon because he gave us pride and I thinks that the real issue, we’ve lost pride in Europe. Molde malmo from what I could see where defensive counter attacking teams. We need a team who can build a strong defence, restore pride in Europe and win domestically, this is what o’neil, strachan n Lennon did, we have better players so will always attack in SPL

Johnniebhoy
7 years ago

Agreed Ronnie should go and if its to hapen it needs to happen now, not at the end of the season with CL qualifiers looming and no time for the new manager to build a team. So if now, who? What about Brendan Rodgers? Winner with Swansea, nearly one the big one in England with Liverpool. Sitting at home, no contract to buy out. Allegedly a Tim. Get on the phone Dermot, pay his wages yourself if you have to the CL revenue will more than pay you back!

Kmack
7 years ago

Who’d we actually get?

CeciltheLion
7 years ago
Reply to  Kmack

Stevie Clarke for me

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  CeciltheLion

Stevie Clarke?
Now I agree that Stevie has a lot to offer a club after all the experience he has picked up at Liverpool and Chelsea, but I only see him as a number two?

What about Brendan Rodgers with Stevie Clarke as assistant?

BondiBrian
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Monti, I’ll shout yi a ticket to Australia if Brendan Rogers signs, point is pal…no buken chacne will Rogers even entertain Celtic. No way.

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  BondiBrian

You nor I don’t know that mate, has he been asked?

BondiBrian
7 years ago
Reply to  BondiBrian

Dunno if he’s been asked or not, simple hypothesise from me is inclined to think not. Time shall tell….I’ll be astounded if he is the Tic manager. We’ve got RD until the end of the season at the very least. Aw these recent managerial sacking has got cyber space goin radge.

CeciltheLion
7 years ago
Reply to  BondiBrian

Took WBA to their highest league position in over 30 years. Clear man-management skills. What’s the main thing we’re missing right now? Man-management, imo. We need somebody to make average players better not some joker whose only interest appears to be to humiliate and confuse players.

Deila reminds me of that Christian Gross loser who managed THFC. His only motivation tool was to scream “Werk, verk, verk!” at players.

DanThe Man
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Same old same old failure Clarke for Celtic so that he can fail again. If we are such a big club , where is the ambition ? Ancelotti for me or Guardiola he will be available in the summer these are guys who have been successful in their careers oh nearly forgot we play in the Scottish Premier League and we can’t afford to wash there cars never mind buy them one. So let’s go back to our list of failures to choose a replacement for Ronny. It is rediculous ☘☘☘

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  DanThe Man

Ancelotti is taking over at Bayern Munich..

Do you not keep up with world football?

Jimmy Dunsmuir
7 years ago

There can be no doubt that ‘tic supporter’s least favourite sweets at present must be M&Ms. Malmo, Molde, Motherwell and you’ve guessed it……Mince, which is their present football diet.The club really should man up (that M again) and make a change sooner rather than later. Personally, I’d think twice before I signed Moyes!

Hothot
7 years ago

Totally agree with the article. With Ronnie, philosophy trumps practicality when it should be other way round. Another who believes in calling for an electrician when we need a plumber to fix leaks. He has barely delivered on any of the promises made, time for a change.

Althetim
7 years ago

Who exactly is going to choose the new manager if Ronny gets bagged? The same guys who appointed Ronny in the first place, perchance?
Celtics’ current problems lie in the boardroom. We have been downsizing for years to the extent we are now an SPFL team and nothing more. Celtic are no longer a bid club. It is a small club with a big support – and that is dwindling by the day. It is a disgrace.

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  Althetim

Correct!

CeciltheLion
7 years ago

Nice, clueless guys are not what’s needed. We need steel, tactics and a plan. Deila’s got none of these.

JFDI

Corktim
7 years ago

Great article,no need to comment really anyone who cares for our great club,must see now that Deila has to go.

Frankp
7 years ago

It’s like you took that entire article straight out my head, agree with every word.

Monti
7 years ago

When Ronny Deila is on the T.V., I can’t listen to his shite anymore.
I believe David Moyes or Brendan Rodgers would get a lot more out of this squad.
Time to make the call Dermot.

The place needs lifted, we are underachieving!

BondiBrian
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Ah really canny get ma heid around this obsession with Moyes. Rogers ah can see the attraction but bucksake day in day oot Moyes in Ronny oot. Doin ma nut in. But hayho…everyone has an an opinion.

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  BondiBrian

Bondibrian,
It isn’t meant to do anyone’s head in, it is an alternative to what we have at the moment.
As for not seeing the abilities Moyes has, well that is more down to you than him.
Read what his peers have to say about him, are they all wrong as well?

BondiBrian
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Ah know Monti, am totally cool with others opinions on here, don’t agree wi a lot them but that a good sign. Ah just don’t see Moyes entertaining ( no pun intended ) Celtic. IMO we’ll see the season oot with RD still in the dug oot, after that ah dunno but ah have a feeling the Dons may gie us a run for oor $$$$$$$$$.

HAIL HAIL N aw that !!!

Phaco
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Monti. I know you are a dog person, what is the game with the Chariie guy. I think he is a Hun. Negative all the time. This team we have hear needs a rid out and a boot up the arse for the ” ones” that wan.t to stay. Will it happen?.hh

BondiBrian
7 years ago

and in English please Bob.

Andy
7 years ago

Back to checks an balances.

1. The fans hold the board accountable by not buying stuff.
2. The board holds the manager accountable no further explanation required.
3. The manager holds the players accountable no further explanation required.
4. The players hold the fans accountable by playing like shite.

Now while I make a habit of discussing selection and tactics on this site and rarely twitter (in the hopes that Anthony Stokes sees it).
My main job of I was unhappy would simply be to pull my Celtic TV subscription and stop ordering my Aberdeen supporting families children stuff from the online shop, but I’m not actually that motivated yet.
Initially I’ll tweet my opinion and hopefully next week Ronny changes his tactic to only 1 holding midfielder, faster transitions of play and hires a new shooting coach.
We will see.
If we continue to only get < 30% shots on target I may have to withdraw my subscription to Celtic TV and actually be creative with gifts. As that is how these things work.

London celtic
7 years ago

Lawwell can go as well as far as I’m concerned.

holy sea
7 years ago

Excellent piece,Hector.
Can’t disagree with any of your thoughtful prose.
Especially the point,” by determining the system comes first ”
Ronny is broke,his 4-2-3-1 system is broke.
Dermot Desmond HAS TO FIX it !!

Charlie Saiz
7 years ago
Reply to  holy sea

The broken system…
Top of the League with a game in hand
Scored 45 conceded 14

Utter nonsense.

CeciltheLion
7 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

It’s not about being top of the league. It’s the crap quality on show that convinces me that Deila is unable to motivate players and to get their buy-in to his tactical demands. If, in addition, he can’t spot a player (Boyata, Blackett to name but 10), what’s his value?

With our relative budget, crowds and structure, we should be top of the league. No great credit to Deila for that. That we struggle so much in so many ways is entirely down to him.

Charlie Saiz
7 years ago
Reply to  CeciltheLion

But it is that’s whole point of taking part in a League to be on top of it at the end.
You taking into account the injuries,form of key players and suspensions so far this season?
Ronny has to and it cannot be easy trying to bed in a new Central pairing under these circumstances.

andybhoy
7 years ago

Run along William, you sad Orc.

Monti
7 years ago

Stupid Huns!!

Tyneside No1
7 years ago

Defence for me is the Achilles heal, If you dont concede you cannot be beaten.
This zonal marking is not for the Celtic, we need defenders to defend and take responsibility for the nearest man system.
Once confidence goes, you cannot play the young lads it will not be good for their futures. The more experienced players have to look at themselves and dig this out.
If we do look for a new manager I would plump for Henrik ( boss) and Big Johan (coach)to sort the defence and maybe Paul Lambert(coach) to organise a holding game in Europe. Remember we are still top

DanThe Man
7 years ago
Reply to  Tyneside No1

I hope Henrik never comes back to Celtic as manager. I treasure my memories of him in the Hoops .I would hate to see his rep destroyed by the likes of Monti and Bgbhoy after 18 months in the job . PL won’t come to Celtic he has already shafted us pre Lennon so no thanks .☘☘☘

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  DanThe Man

Dan,
You are in need of help son!

Bgbhoy
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

First of all I wouldn’t want henrik at the club as manager unproven. Short of getting Celtic relegated I wouldn’t say a bad word against Larsson. I don’t need to shred deilas rep. He does that every time this Celtic team takes to the field. Monti and I are not the only ones voicing out anger now. Seems to be the majority of fans feel the same? Are we all malcontents. I pay week in week out to voice my displeasure if I feel it’s merited. There’s nothing there to support at the moment

DanThe Man
7 years ago
Reply to  Bgbhoy

That does not make sense Bgbhoy . So you would stay quiet if Larsson came in and dropped us to second bottom and. Bumped out of all the cups including Europe.? That is not credible . I am not suggesting you are both the only ones wanting Deila out but you have both been on here consistently pushing that agenda from early doors and Larsson would get the same treatment but with the added comment ,he was a great player but couldn’t cut it as a manager. Stay in Sweden Henrik.☘☘☘

BondiBrian
7 years ago
Reply to  DanThe Man

minus the “monti & bgbhoy” comment, ah tend to agree Dan.

Danny
7 years ago

As long as whatever manager we have has no real control over who we sign, then the manager will be forced to play square pegs in round holes. Until the Celtic manager gets to sign the players he wants we will just keep repeating the same mistakes. Someone has to stop Lawell from deciding who we sign.

iancelt67ft
7 years ago

Bob go on the falkirk blogs you may get sime insight into why your team was dismantled on the weekend even after the obligatory masonic agreed get out of jail spot kick was missed …im sure you will get cogent and well articulated feedback you orange no voting bastard

iancelt67ft
7 years ago

We need a director of football/coaching to decide who shoild be candidates for the job someone who can kick a ball and maybe keep it up more than 2-3 times

Sinan
7 years ago

good article although quite difficult to read as it states the reality. At the start of last season I was frustrated at the formation we were playing as we didn’t have the players who suited it. we lacked any wingers and the players we had available were more suited to a 352 formation similar to MON. BY the end of the season I realised that this is the formation Delia wanted to play and had to implement it so that players bought into it. When I’ve watched our games recently I don’t actually know what our style of play is or what formation we are actually playing. I really wanted RD to succeed as I do with every Celtic manager but if he is not backed in the January transfer window then the board are letting RD down and more importantly the fans. Why stick with a manager if your not going to back him. the next 6 months I believe will go a long way in dictating whether we are ready for the champions league qualifiers and based on the Europa league campaign we are no where ready. I think the support for Ronnie is at its lowest it’s been and I’d say it’s 65 to 35 to those who want him to leave. what is evident is he I losing support and what actually really bothered me is at the last few away games he has not even had the decency to applaud the away fans. I don’t care about the Ronnie Roar but don’t just head into the tunnel after the game without showing ur appreciation to the travelling fans because football without fans is nothing!!

Andy
7 years ago

If you want something done…….
https://m.facebook.com/celticrbetterthanthis/

Charlie Saiz
7 years ago

Several wee factors you seemed to have skipped over the Hector…
Last Season was a transition season for both Deila and the side a new coaching staff a new approach to fitness and a change of plan on the System and approach to games.
Ie a lot of changes and very ,very little time to catch his breath before those increasingly earlier qualifying rounds in the Champions League.
The writing was on the wall the previous Season we struggled past Elfsborg and then struggled some more past the most one dimensional side we have ever faced in Europe in Shakhter Parahandy.
A goal line clearance from Matthews and a bars width sparing our Blushes.
Then the Group.
1 win 5 defeats scored 3 conceded 14
We lost both Forster and Samaras 2 of our Key players in Europe in recent years.
All considered last season actually turned out better than many predicted A League and Cup Double narrowly missing out in the Scottish Cup and a Historic Treble plus still playing in Europe after Christmas…and not looking to shabby either.
The mainstay in the side being the aforementioned Denaayer and Van Dijk who’s impressive form seen them combine to break a 96 year League Defensive Record conceding only 17 goals (none in the League Cup).
So confident of how we ended the season Ronny asked to be judged in Europe in this.
This of course without him knowing that Both Denaayer and Van Dijk would be gone.
On top of that Mulgrew got injured Lustig got injured
Van Dijks replacement Simunovic got injured Janko got injured
Izzy underperformed Johansen underperformed then got injured
Brown underperformed then got injured Armstrong has underperformed
Mackay Stevens has underperformeD Ciftci has taken ages to settle.
So he made a statement not knowing these circumstances would have kicked in such a short and important period of our season.
The only positives during these past 2/3 months have been the emergence of Tierney the form of Biton in the early games and the goalscoring feats of Griffiths…oh who also as we are all aware is out injured.
Now all that aside and the fact Boyata a young untested CB at European level has been the only constant in our back 4 in all these games?
Hardly a great platform to fight a European campaign on no?
Taking all that into account the performances in both Molde games were horrendous….not to take anything away from Molde of course who would gub most sides in our League week in week out.
The fact they went to Fenerbahce and put 3 by them is proof enough.
There wee no mug teams in our Group just one poor Celtic ravaged by injuries in key areas.
Now to the ongoing debate on this System?
Here are the Scoring figures for our opening 17 games of the last 10 Seasons (plus League Cup Games)
Season 2005-06 48 Goals Scored – 2 up
Season 2006-07 38 Goals Scored – 2 up
Season 2007-08 47 Goals Scored – 2 up
Season 2008-09 47 Goals Scored – 2 up
Season 2009-10 39 Goals Scored – 2 up
Season 2010-11 47 Goals Scored – 2 up
Season 2011-12 38 Goals Scored – 2 up
Season 2012-13 42 Goals Scored – 2 up
Season 2013-14 39 Goals Scored – 2 up
Season 2014-15 43 Goals Scored – 1 up
Season 2015-16 48 Goals Scored – 1 up
You will notice we have lost nothing in terms of goals scored by playing 1 striker.
It’s bullshit peddled by people who do not know the facts hence why so many top Managers prefer to use this System.
They know the stats they do serious research into these things.not blessed in the striking department I don’t know whether you have noticed but Griffiths is the only decent finisher we have had since Hooper left?
A tail of useless shite has come before him.
Now all of that aside Deila is still getting pelters especially after a poor result of which tere have been a few as we all know.
The facts still remain though even with the injuries sustained,the lack of fom of key players we still sit on top of the pile with a game in hand.
We are still in both Cups..hardly a time to hit the panic button a whole 18 games into a 38 game campaign is it?
You and many others keep using the money facto in all this as if we are Man City or Madrid out spending megabucks on show ponies?
We aren’t because we are Celtic and we play in a backwater of a League we have to pay a premium to players to convince them to come here.
We don’t buy quality we buy mediocrity or potential with a view to improving them and turning them into European Level players.
Our best players are not that much better than the other decent players in our League.
After all 3 of our recent signings have come from one of our rivals.
Because we are Celtic we pay more,moe for the signing and more in wages to make them want to come that’s hoiw it works they don’t instantly become Messi just because they pull on a Celtic top you know?
The bottom line is we are an Average Europa League side at best.
And a poor one when not at our best.
We are the best team in SCotland but thanks to injuries and form of key players not by much right at this moment.
The issue right now is not whether Ronny Deila can manage? His 2 League titles and 2 Cups are testimony to the fact he can.
It is whether the expectations of our support are currently too high given all that has transpired over the past few years?
We are not a CL Level Club.
Not now that has been cutback year after year and now we are where we ae due to it.
Downsized and by the sounds of some online anyway demoralised because of it.
Deila has a clear plan that plan fits with the Boards agenda heis 18 month into it and progress although slow has been made.
You just need to open yer eyes.

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Are you employed sir?

Charlie Saiz
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Troll

bob
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Are you?

Joe
7 years ago

Really? It took you 18 months to figure out this clown is useless? We have zero ambition. We hire the cheapest clown available and allow the gamble to cost us £20+ million to save £2 million up front! Yeah, great thinking!

BondiBrian
7 years ago

No need to apologise Bob. I’ll let yi get back to your barbie in downtown Govan.

bob
7 years ago
Reply to  BondiBrian

Eh?

BondiBrian
7 years ago
Reply to  bob

It was intended for Bob Cordial ( Rab Juice mair like )

Charlie Saiz
7 years ago

Regarding the OP
Managed to miss out the fact we got gubbed in the CL in 2013-14
Have had to cope with injuries to
Mulgrew Brown Simunovic Lustig Janko Commons Johansen
Had to deal with Bown Lustig Izzy Armstrong GM-S Ciftci Johansen undeperfoming this season
And also ignoring the FACT this System has produced as many goals in the opening 17 games this season than the previous 10 playing with 2 up?
But hey Clueless Ronny must go eh?

Charlie Saiz
7 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Go with his League and Cup Double and his 96 year league defensive Record under his arm.
Because he knows less than the Stein Shankly bloggers?
Aye right.

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

You’re starting to sound desperate!

Charlie Saiz
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

You trolling again son?

elcormaco
7 years ago

First, great article can’t disagree with any of it.
second, in a piece I wrote for the site a while back I predicted that Ronnie would end up dividing fans, reading the comments that sadly seems to be the case. You can be a true Celtic supporter and hold either position wrt Ronnie, the petty name calling is sad to see
Third I don’t think anyone wanted him to fail when he came in, but my loyalty is to my team before any individual and worth people voting work their feet it seems only a matter of time before the board act. Income interests them and I’m and if it continues to fall then they will replace him
They have aside from their many problems got more managers right than wrong. I can’t see our want Moyes, no exponent of attacking football. Steve Clarke defensive too, I really can’t say so I’d like but I don’t believe we are going in the roof direction and need a change

elcormaco
7 years ago

Fuck predictive text and insomnia

iancelt67ft
7 years ago

I believe there is a medical condiyion noy dissimilar to severe depression simply called “supporting celtic” symptoms are paranoia mistrust catatonia pos european nights which is the subject of a seminar eiyh the top boffinds og psychiatry giving opinion. Please be gentle if you vvome across a sufferer. You may bring on post traumatic deila syndrome which can be fatal

iancelt67ft
7 years ago

And as witnessed above severe myopia and grammatic cretinism

CeciltheLion
7 years ago

Looks to me like you’ve got the market cornered in respect of being “barely literate”. Might be a good idea to find a topic that you’re good at before trying to insult others.

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