Here was me all happy and jovial yesterday, and then someone called me out on Davie Moyes, once of the bhoys…
Makes me think of that MP, Lucy Allen, the lass who adds death threats to her incoming email so she can feel important. Today she will be talking about a letter sent to her home address demanding money. We know its the electric bill, but she doesn’t see it that way.
And I know, courtesy of a friend in Jersey, that Davie Moyes was the first choice to replace Neil Lennon. He said no, presumably so he could write a book about it later.
Here’s how it came about, for those who can’t be arsed trolling through old diaries, or listening to old podcasts.
In the same vein, by the way, the first person to moan about us getting three new strips next year should just go and stand in a bucket of water whilst prodding the socket with a copper strip.
Hang on, did someone say Prod?
Lifelong Tim and uberfan Rod Stewart, I meant, not Prod Stewart, the seventies tribute singer pictured here. If you read his book, you’ll find out he became a Tim after Stein looked at his shoes, more or less questioned his sexuality, and as Prod says, scared the bejesus out of him.
And the crackly voiced crooner wants Moyes in….. Moys who has sung the sash with the best of them, and lets be honest, we know that there is a breed of humanity-maybe the wrong word-not noted for it’s aesthetic beauty from that part of Glasgow.
Still, that doesn’t apply to perennial under achiever Moyes, does it ?
Everton fans still remember his legendary tactical talks, where he used to ask the players to fill in the tricky bits about movement and positioning
Anyhoo, there I was in Jersey, at a wedding, shortly after Lennon was sacked.
A chap from Monaco, related to the bride, made some small talk. The family are Everton fans. Hence I got to sit at the Bobby Collins table, as he was the only table with a Celtic link. Despite eleven years at Everton, there was no Davie Moyes table. Oddly enough, despite his lengthy tenure at Goodison, he was largely supported simply because he wasn’t Walter Smith.
Wee bit if small talk, and I was asked what I though of Neil Lennon being sacked by yer man from Monaco, who incidentally, also told me about a certain Craig Whyte and his company over there, who shared an office block with his own company, right up until they were asked not to as they were seen as “dodgy “.
And , as he said, they were dodgy.
But we know that, don’t we ?
Neil Lennon wasn’t sacked, I replied, which got me the kind of smile you get from an old fellow when you point out that the trenches might have been a bit damp, but it wasn’t that bad.
Lennon was embarassing the board, claimed yer man, his sectarian baggage, although not his fault, was not what they wanted to be the clubs image. There is no suggestion the board didn’t fully support him when he was under, shall we say, duress, but it was having an effect within the walls of Celtic Park.
Ask Anthony Stokes about the time big Johann remonstrated with him about his, er, Irish folk singing in Belfast.
Something along the lines of “After the shit he’s been through, you go and fucking do that “. Meaning , of course, the attcks and threats toward Lennon.
What I was told was that the board were looking for an excuse to mutually decide that Neil was out of here. His demands for money to spend on more duds, and I believe Jimmy Bullard may have been the straw that broke the camels back, led to a stand off, then a sit down, then a handshake, and a quick call to Desmond.
Who in turn made a quick call to Moyes.
At the time, Moyes was still being paid by Manchester united. This is quite common in football circles. Celtic were still paying Martin O’Neill long after he left, though not with an EBT, which is less common in football circles.
If he had taken another job, he would have lost that money.
So, Moyes told Desmond no. A move which fits in with his complete lack of ambition, drive and personality. Eleven years at one club, no trophies suggest also that nobody else wanted him.
But hey, never mind that.
Until Man U came calling, found out he was shite, and fucked him off. On full pay.
Thn we rang him, Larsson and Keane.
They all said no.
Deila didn’t. He was proud to be offered the job, and flattered. And he has become Celtic minded. As anyone who has spoken to him for any length of time will tell you, he knows his stuff.
And he also knows it will take some time to get his systems in place, as he told me, he is sticking to one system until he feels the players can handle other ways. Perhaps we have seen a wee bit of that coming in in the last few games.
He’s not a one trick pony, he just has a long term plan.
Back to Moyes, and at the time, I paid the usual polite ear to yer man and his , what I thought, warblings. Until I mentioned his source to Hector Bandido, my Etims colleague.
He told me who the source was, and believe me, its , if true, very credible.
Very credible indeed.
so , during the Monaco Grand Prix that year, I got his number and checked what he’d told me wasn’t down to the drink or anything else.
It was kind of weird watching the race on tv and talking to a guy sitting on his balcony watching it at the same time.
He was adamant he was right.
And he night well be, as we can only take everything we hear for what it is, something we hear.
And this is Etims, where we make stuff up, apart from the stuf we don’t.
You now have to decide whether or not I’m making this up, or the chap in Jersey was.
And frankly , I don’t give a toss whether you believe me or not.
But I do know I don’t want Davie The Donkey anywhere near Celtic.
Even to watch us.
Right, on with the show.
Former players are often in the press earning a few bob for their thoughts. You see, having played the game, they are really quite clever and know how to run a team.
Alright, maybe not all of them.
Anyhoo, can you guess from which former Celtic man these words come ?
“The one position where you really need to be playing all of the time is striker because you need that fitness and sharpness,” he said.
“If you are not playing it’s hard to be at your best and that has clearly been the case with Ciftci.
“Sometimes it takes a player to get injured to give you the opportunity but it’s tough, especially with so many managers playing with one up.”
“Celtic should be playing with two up front against the majority of teams in the Scottish Premiership,” he claimed.
“They are the strongest side and there should surely be room to go in that direction, even now and again, which would let Griffiths and Ciftci play,
Go on . Guess .
Yep. The Tony Cascarino who thought Celtic played too much football for him to succeed.
Cascarino, of course is fondly remembered by Celtic fans for one thing.
And heres another one;
“Nadir came in for stick after the Fenerbahce game last week. It must have been tough for him as he got some criticism for his performance and fans were on his back,I read various people saying Nadir isn’t Celtic class but I believe he is, so it was great to see him score twice against St Johnstone.”
“I played with Nadir at Tannadice, I felt he would be a good signing for Celtic, and I still believe he will be. I hope he does kick on now. We said it a few months ago after he scored the winner against Motherwell, but it never really happened for him. But getting two goals must have been a real confidence boost for Nadir because he will be so eager to take his chances when they come along,”
In fairness, theres nothing wrong woth any of that, but the speaker, Mark Wilson, can’t say anything bad about Celtic.
Just in case someones listening….
Then theres this, again, see if you can guess who is talking shite, on er, talkdhite radio;
“We are going to walk the Premiership – of course we are! I don’t know Ronny, but going on what I’ve seen so far, you just look at attendances and something has got to give at Parkhead. I would love David [Moyes] to take it, but, although he played for Celtic, he was a Rangers fan as a kid. I think he is looking for something big in the Premier League. I think Neil Lennon would have a chance back in the Celtic job. I would be more comfortable with Neil as Celtic manager than Ronny.”
And I’d be more comfortable if you shut your mouth.
Thats right, we’d all be more comfortable if he did.
It’s Alan Brazil.
Yet another armchair manager with a remarkable ability to be able to talk about someone he doesn’t know doing a job he’s never done .
So, lets ask someone who doesn’t know him who has never been a radio talkshow host what she thinks about his comments.
Maybe you don’t always need to have expert knowledge…
Away from all that, and theres more disappointment for an Ibrox fan when one of his arguments falls apart;
And Dave King has neatly avoided buying any of his kids and grand kids anything for Christmas after he wangled a favour from one of his ardent supporters.
Down at the Louden, they celebrated their chairman not going to prison.
And over at Hampden, Stewart Regan and Neil Doncaster are pondering how to raise more money in Scottish football after they made a collective arse of everything they’ve done so far.
Heres a wee bit of a hint for them.
At , say £3 a can, and we’d all buy them, thats a fair bit of untapped income right there. You don’t need a bar. Just sell plastic bottles of the stuff.
Yesterdays picture was taken before the infamous Jeremy Kyle episode, “Your father is also your brother and your sister is your wife ”
I particularly remember the bit when one of them was asked to take the lie detector test.
” Dave, you’ll need to wear this when we strap you up to it , in case it reacts. ”
And it did.
Anyway, I’m off. Need to get the wife something for Christmas. She said she doesn’t want anything big, so that rules out underwear.
I’m here all week, etc.
Thanks to Thommybhoy on twitter for the pic.
I listened to the Alan Brazil interview, found nothing objectionable in it. For what its worth I dont really rate Moyes or want him at Celtic, but I find Alan Brazil genuine in his love of Celtic, and so would respect his right to air his views.
I think in general we can be a little thin skinned when the media critisizes. Like with Ronnie – media say job is too big for him or he isnt getting his message across, we close ranks and defend him, even if inside we might have to acknowledge they have a point. I m sure there are many in scottish media who have no love for Celtic, it doesnt mean they are all talking nonsense but.
I dont entirely follow the point you are trying to make at the start of today’s diary – that because moyes sioid no once, or supported Rangers as a kid or because a celebrity fan backs him to be our manager Moyes should immediatly be discounted?
When Lenny left I wanted Lambert, Larsson or Jackie Mac – with Lambert now at Blackburn, Jackie struggling at York City FFs that only leaves the King of Kings – he might not have a major impact, but he would certinly put bums back on seats at Celtic park. Despite his travails at Bolton and whether he was sacked or not I d still take Lenny back too, or the guy who managed Blackburn before Lambert went there, Scottish, seems quite a calm influence.
I wouldnt discount Moyes because he said no once before – we have to be a bit grown up – not everyone would walk over broken glass to manage or play for Celtic, some want to see a plan and a budget, which is fair enough. But again, I m not an advocate of Moyes
I don’t have a friend in Monaco but I called my friend in Millport and he had a slightly different perspective.
The Celtic board are continually developing their business plans going forward. Unlike the diary, they don’t always get it right but my Millport midge reliably informs me that RD was planned to come in to support Neil.
Lemons decision to leave was not factored into their planning and as the guy from Monaco accurately says when it happened they went for their first choices who refused the offer of Manager and it was then that the risk was taken to offer Ronnie the job.
They currently plan to give Ronnie the chance to succeed and while some will feel he has already had a chance and failed, the board will stick with him for a while longer.
Whilst Moyes may be among a list of potential successors, they have no intention of bringing in a new manager in the immediate future but by the time they may be looking for a manager Moyes may or not be available or indeed on the list!
Things can get pretty quiet in Millport at this time of year so he has given this plenty of thought!
I believe the Board operate within a 5 year plan Ronny Deila is 19 months into that new Plan.
I don’t see them altering course just yet as there is 2 windows before the next campaign and I think there will be some players hitting the taxi rank in January.
The fact of the matter is we are still winning the bulk of our games,still lifting silverware and still looking like doing so even though it’s been far from perfect both seasons in Europe.
They that is the Board may well throw some caution to the wind as regards some quality time will tell on that score because attendances were on the decline anyway due to the lack of this and they know it.
Good Diary all the same Ralph and a good answer to those asking the same question over and over and over and……….
Repeating yourself Monti ? ☘☘☘
It’s just arrant rubbish to suggest that there’s a 5 year plan for the footballing side (ahem) of the business. It’s a gross untruth being pedalled to suggest that Deila’s less than half way into his transition.
It is arrant rubbish to suggest there’s a 5 year plan. Deila supporters make this up to imply that he’s less than half way through transition. So very, very deluded.
I thought that NL had been mutualled.
That’ll be the same board who pass the names of our supporters to Police Scotland, who in turn intimidate our fans with their tactics.
The same boat who won’t pay the living wage.
The same board who has a CEO that gives himself £1m per year.
The same board who sell our best players then phone Man Utd for a Tyler Blackett.
The same board who decry the Irish Republican community in our support.
The list is endless….
They are a disgrace to this club, as is this nobody manager!
WE ARE ALL NEIL LENNON!
In the unfortunate scenario that Neil Lennon’s new club go south, why don’t Celtic buy Bolton, retain their FA registration, and return all the other assets to the BW supporters to carry on with. They could reapply to the FA in due course and by that time we’d be in the top six of the EPL and in the CL semis.
Just a thought.
Monti players like Ki,Forster, Wanyama, Birgil have it all worked into their contracts that if teams at a certain status and or prepared to pay a certain fee are allowed to go before the end of their contracts. Celtic are happy with the profit, can you tell me the benefit of keeping a player who doesn’t want to be here any more? Virgil went from £18k at Celtic to £46k at Southampton, I wonder why he left!
It’s like the daft idea signing a couple of players at £6m or £7m wouldn’t upset the rest of the team
who would see guys earring £35 or £40k pw and one gets injured and the other loses form.
I fully understand the boards policy of buying promising,young players and after a couple of seasons selling them on for large profit, I don’t need that explained to me.
What is in need of an explanation though is this, why are we bringing in inferior players to those who have been sold?
Look at the level VVD was at when he left, instead of getting Tyler Blackett on loan we should be bringing in an experienced player.
The board are only interested in the balance sheet and their own financial gain.
They don’t care about the Celtic supporters, that’s why they colaborate with Police Scotland and a government bill that targets Celtic supporters.
Why are the board not asking where the fucking Police were down the Gallowgate before the Ajax game.
Why is the board not asking questions why our away support is being filmed by masked Police orifices?
They are full of shite!
VVD was replaced by Jozo Monti.
Blackett was brought in as backup for Izzy whilst Tierney had his turn.
I get why they did that he should be sent back in Jan now we know A he’s shite B Kieran is decent.
Boyata has replaced Loan Signing Denaayer and I believe Boyata was considered ahead of Denaayer at City.
So in essence we replaced a player who was short term with a prospect who is long term and on the books.
In this repsect they seemed to have learned from both the Hooper and Wanyama deals as neither Bitton or Griffiths were at that level when they came.
I doubt they will eve get it right but then I don’t think there is ever a definitive way of doing things as it’s always a gamble any way?
Just less so when you buy proven quality…but the stakes are higher of course.
I’m with you on this we need to speculate more this time in the windows.
Yeah, but if he got our wage tax free would be stay?
I think that Desmond will wait for the Euros not th money and when the Republic go out make a move for Roy Kean his first option.
Delilah will get the rest of the season. To have any hope of surviving he needs the treble, if not his teas out.
Notice the MSM are not commentating on Tony Mowbray being offered the Fulham job, what happened to Warbs, or has some naughty person stolen his wizards hat, never mind he has Falkirk and Hibees to look forward too, he better find it!
I think it’s unfair to call Ronny a one trick pony. IMO he doesn’t even have one trick, I don’t care if he is now Celtic minded, all I care about is that we have a manager who can manage. As for our board if this is true about Neil Lennon then we are definitely being run by a shower of right wing unionist Tory tossers.
Every one of that board should fuck off including Dermot, they are not taking this club forward!
Neil Lennon is one of the greatest Celts ever. How many people have ever had to put up with what he did for simply doing their job. Lennie didn’t bow!
If only he was Norwegian, can you imagine the praise he would be getting?
Mont i some far points in there about the police (though if you had grown up with the RUC you might see them in a different light)I grant you, but I think Jo Jo has the potential to be on a par with Virgil or certainly better than currently, just as Boyata is improving at last. Some we bring in will be good and thrive at Celtic, others just don’t have it. Inevitably with a policy like that some will work out others won’t and it takes the best part of a season to get to grips with the vagaries of our league.
Dermot is better than most of the owners over the past 20 years its just people like Ann Budge have gone past him in terms of identifying with the club’s supporters but maybe not many others.
I haven’t seen anything from Simunovic that remotely reminds me of Virgil so I don’t know where you are coming from there.
Boyata? I have seen plenty poor defending from him and a few goals. He is constantly out of position and weak in the tackle.
The only thing folk cling to is HOPE that these players get better.
I think Simunovic could be a good player with an experienced partner beside him, but again I am only HOPING, I’m not filled with confidence.
We have a plethora of attacking midfield players and central midfielders being played out of position to the detriment of their own form and performance.
One up front is a crime, it isn’t what Celtic sides are known for, I remember a time when we played three up front many years ago
We have lost two years Champions league income and I don’t trust Deila to get us there next year.
People can butter things up all they like in the HOPE things get better, but the board should be making decisions that ENSURE things are better!
I am fucking raging with what has happened to Celtic the last two years!
It’s not Christmas yet!!!
cue radio alarm going off it’s 6am and sonny n cher are singing i got you babe bill Murray is waking up and smashing Alarm. Yip its groundhog day on etims comments section once again.
Boyata has to many shaky moments in games for me. Even in the league games. You simply cant afford to have that in a defender. We have one youngster in simonovic , need to get a propper international experienced centre half , leader and organiser in the mjallby mold to tell the others what to do. This is a must for the next crack at champions league football
Exactly, but don’t be surprised if it’s some 18 year old on loan from Chelsea or Liverpool.
You build a side from the back, a goalkeeper and four defenders who defend like they are Basic Fawlty on speed!
They need to be fucking up for it man, I would rather play eleven players like Kieran Tierney from the youths.
Motivation and application is your basic two requirements, get these guys in the team and let them show the fans what fucking fight is.
Look at those two games v Molde…
No fight, no commitment and no nothing…apart from Tierney.
Celtic park used be feared…..used to…that’s what hurts the most!
For whatever reason I get the feeling you ain’t too keen on Moyes as manager. Fair enough, but surely there was no need to use that photoshopped picture that first appeared on some zombear website? The one that they when they sought to mock one of their own for betraying his background and daring to sign for ‘them’.
I went to the Liverpool/Celtic u21 game in Chester at the weekend and although the conditions played havoc for both sides several playes stood out up against some quality in the Liverpool side.
The big CB Kelleher is a solid no nonsense type CB.
Strong in the tackle and decent on the deck as he tried to launch attacks from deep.
The wind played havoc with the long balls though particularly in the first half as we faced into it.
The lad Breslin had a solid game in the midddle of the Park considering he was up against a quality individual in Texiera the Portuguese play maker who most of their good work went through.
Breslin looks a decent DM to me and can’t be too far off a first team shout I don’t think.
But the lad who stood out most was the RB Sam Wardrop he was terrific in the tackle and looked to set things up on the right flank constantly.
First and foremost though he can defend much like Tierney.
As most of Liverpools attacks were down his side he coped really well with the constant pressure throughout with some timely tackles and clearances.
Teixeira incidentally is 22 and has already played 34 senior Games at Livepool Brentford and Brighton so he’s no mug.
Considering Breslin is only 18 he did not look overawed by him.
Breslin has a decent build and looks like he could be upto the rigours of the SPFL soon.
So what is it you are saying?
We have 2 young CB’s in Kelleher and O’Connell coming through both look solid.
We have another RB looking good to go along with Fisher.
And another CM in Breslin to come through with Lindsay and Henderson.
Couple that with Christie and Allan we have some young decent talent now emerging all at once.
This has not happened for a long time at Celtic we have had dribs and drabs coming through for years with few making the mark.
I believe Tommy Burns said it would take 10 years for Lennoxtown to start producing enough numbers perhaps we are now seeing the fruit of that particular tree?
I hope so to see a squad bursting with our own would make me happy.
Defence has been the issue this Season it needs strengthening perhaps we can do that from within plus a bit of quality?
Agree with all of that!!
Few updates fom tonights game…
3′ Celtic win a corner of their own at the other end and Kelleher goes close with a header but it’s over the bar
47′ Good block from Kelleher inside his own box as Falkirk start the second-half on the front foot.
58′ Brilliant defending from Kelleher on Blair forces a Bairns corner which Bailly gathers on the ground.
63′ Goal for Celtic! Breslin gives the Hoops the lead with a powerful shot from the right of the box.
87′ Another chance from Miller goers just wide with the winger stooping to meet Wardrop’s cross.
88′ Kelleher goes into the book for a strong challenge in midfield.
Is Breslin the ginger guy?
I remember him from the Scotland team at the Euros, wasn’t sure if he’d been loaned out.
He looked very composed and solid at the Liverpool game at the weekend Doc considering he was up against players with alot more experience he did very well I thought.
He’s filled out a bit this year too which as we know can be an issue for younger players hoping to step up.
Has composure on the ball.
On that aspect young Nesbitt was running around like a headless chicken for the most part I was suprised at this considering he’s been travelling with the First team?
Perhaps trying too hard to impress.
I also am disgusted about the direction our club is going. It gets me so angry how poor we are now in Europe compared to NL, MON and GS. I can’t believe how many fans seem to be accepting this downward spiral. Knocked out of the CL by a team that got beat 8 0!
The board are to blame for appointing a manager who they regarded as an assistant, it was too big a gamble to take in my opinion.
I wasn’t happy when Neil got the job either because it simply isn’t a job for a rookie.
Let me be clear though, if Ronny Deila WAS showing that he knew what he was doing, if the team were showing they were getting better, I would get behind him because you could see it getting there, I don’t see any ‘ getting better ‘ tho, Tierney is only getting a game because Izzy has fell away.
I could go in there and drop Izzy and play Tierney, not rocket science is it?
We are not even close to getting into the CL groups and we were shocking in the Europa league.
Commons was Celtic’s player of the year when Deila took over, immediately dropped Commons for the most important game of the season ( Maribor) and fucked it up by playing Berget!
Add in this one up front shite and an inability to sort out the defence and here we are……
So Monti after reading the diary are you still shouting for Moyes to Celtic? A simple aye /naw shall suffice unless you have a solid rebuttal of Ralphs take on things.
We accept that the best sex leaves the bedroom in a mess and with some luck a dent in the walls. Jura talking!
To the anti-Deila brigade, time will tell. To us who want him to have more time, time will also tell. We’ll know more before 2016 is over. He will be given this season and until the CL qualifiers are over next year. Life is a gamble. Ronny is a gamble. Big Jock was also a gamble. Moyes, who has won nothing and inspires nobody would be a bad choice and one gamble too many. I’d like the anti-Ronny brigade to give us all a bit more credit by coming up with some serious, possible contenders to manage our club. Coaches who want to be at Celtic and will accept what we can afford to pay for players and who can make all players even better. However, by then, Ronny Deila, who wants to be at our club will have proven his worth.The stuff about the police, the Board, etc is beyond our scope. I am here to support Celtic; I’d also like to live in a world without pain, poverty and inequality and try do my little share towards those things. I agree with Monti on a lot of his observations. It is shameful that we don’t pay a living wage— an absolute scandal. Sometimes, it is all any of us can do to support our team on the pitch while all the other shite goes on around us. My last paid job was well below both the minimum wage and the living wage. All of us Tims know about that and care about those who struggle every day.
Tierney has calf problems how many people have saw during a game when has had to keep stretching his calfs and last game had to get assistance for it.
I think management doing the right thing just now in gradually bringing him into games.
So we can dismiss the whole board and replace them with who? Get rid of Ronnie and the management team and replace them with who? Errrr don’t really know just want them replaced I’m guessing. Especially in the case of the board. There are a lack of socialist business people out there who know how to keep an enterprise running in a competitive world and a shrinking less attractive Scottish football market. So who would come in and replace the board that would change everything? We’d be in Europe and playing the best after the new team came in – who are they ?
I think your post is extremely lazy and obnoxious to be honest.
Look at the immature outlook to David Moyes on here, an experienced manager in the EPL who had built up Everton from a shambles to regularly finishing high up that league, peaking in 4th the season he left.
That was an incredible achievement especially when you consider he was working to a budget, far inferior to those clubs in and around the top four.
David Moyes was offered the hardest job in football, following on from Alex Ferguson.
Was Moyes perfect at Utd? No.
Was Moyes undermined in the Old Trafford dressing room? Yes.
We all know Monti is bad because he doesn’t like Deila or the board…..or being embarrassed in Europe regularly, but look around Celtic park, THOUSANDS agree that it isn’t working, they are being put off going.
Money will talk in the end and Deila will be gone, because Celtic performing in Europe IS vital to the FANS and the board know they need to do well in Europe!
Winning in Scotland and being laughed at in Europe, will not fill the stadium or bring better players to the club, Europe does that!
The problem with simply lurching to absolute positions is that they are seldom thought through and alternatives that are better are never specified in any detail if at all. Before we call for removal of the whole board including the owner and the whole management team lets set out the replacement strategy. How will it work? Who will own the majority of shares? How will the Board operate differently in the same circumstances? How will they raise more money to fund our European adventures? Who will they entice to manage and what players would come to Glasgow? So many questions
Whho the BangourBairn has opened up a whole big tin of worms wi this one. Ya beauty !!!!
Aye Monti, most definitely. Don’t you agree…if not why not?
I’m also looking forward to your response to Ralphs post on Moyes.
I for one am genuinely interested on your response to BB & Ralphs post.
I don’t think you’re remotely ” genuinely interested “!
” Seldom thought through “?
A bit like the dismissive approach on here to David Moyes, you mean?
Don’t be so fucking lazy and look up the man’s record over 11 years at Goodison.
The only thing that hasn’t been cut back on is the fat cats on the board. They are still earning a fortune, no downsizing there. We have put up with downsizing of the manager and team. That is fact!
Lawwell and Riley are on the largest wages by far the rest are on relatively low wages by comparison:
T Allison £25,000
I Bankier £50,000
D Desmond £25,000
P Lawwell £999,264
I Livingston £4,193
E Riley £156,803
B Wilson £25,000
Charlie I wonder how this compares to EPL and English Championship clubs? I assume our board members are on less money except Lawell who is full time and doing well in renumertaion terms based on financial targets I assume. The ugly truth here is,and it’s difficult to swallow, we are in a pisspoor footballing country and we have little choice but to use the model we are using today. I suppose the board came to that conclusion and hence the approach
Jesus H Christ????
So John what’s your alternative mate?
Hi Bondi – lol a bit controversial I admit
Not at all. Not hysterical, not rambling but succinct good question.
BOOM!!!!!!!…noo lets aw sit back N see what transpires….( better N waitin for santa ti come doon the lum!! )
Ronny stays until Larsson’s son is ready to play in Europe at which point you can sack Ronny I am not interested in any manager except Larsson. So anyone that the board has opted not to sack that seems to be creating a team of Scots is fine with me. Our next manager must be the Bhoy who would be king.
For me naw Andy, only cos the first bad result thne MSM will rip Larsson ti bits. You know and ah know they would love to tarnish his time at Celtic they just couldnay do it when he was banging in the goals week in week out.
Ive never been one of just cos they are Celtic legends makes them Celtic managerial potential.
Can yi imagine Larsson in charge if ( when? ) we get humped in Europe?
Lets leave the Kings Celtic reputation in tact.
Fuck hearsay and reliable sources we need a professional manager not a purist or a theoretical nicompoop who stubbornly kerps to a system ehich is neither entertaining or fruitful in europe where it matters we could play any system in scotland and win the league.
The team is beredt of confidence in europe and with all the defenders plying their trades in the various leagues we get to buy bombscares that have an innatr ability to silence one of the noisiest set of supporters in the world with their continued buffoonery. Ronny isnt applying his theories well enough. I believe if the club offered a decent remuneration package instead of being tightarses we would get a real man in.
Its been fucking painful this year and highly embarrassing fuck working towards the future. The future is now no morr suffering.ENOUGH
So Ian what’s your plan mate? Who will you bring in manager and players ? How will you like to see them manage the club? What footballing style will they use? What money will they need to change the players and system ? Where will we find them? Money seems to be the answer right? Where will this magic money come from? Will you change the board too? Then you really need to say where the money will come from? I get this I’m unhappy stuff and what are the solutions to that in a real world where magic wands are really make believe ?
Im not suggesting radicalisation ie removing thr board. but in their infinite wisdom they have chosen to take a risk with an unknown who nearly got us into europe but failed. I brlieve that failure was doen to him with tactical ineptitude. If they want to take risks why not make a calculated one and put a more experienced guy in who would get us in a position thats on the positive side of the fine line between qualifying or not. Theres yhe 30 million back on the calculated risk. Nothing radical. I dont accept the guinea pig status that the board has seen fit to deploy with little compunction and care for the fans wants and needs. Its underachieving and puts the club in a terrible light on a worldwide scale. Steau bucharest were perennial winners in a weak league who then excelled in europe i dont accept that its beyond celtic to do the same.
Im not suggesting radicalisation ie removing thr board. but in their infinite wisdom they have chosen to take a risk with an unknown who nearly got us into europe but failed. I believe that failure was doen to him with tactical ineptitude. If they want to take risks why not make a calculated one and put a more experienced guy in who would get us in a position thats on the positive side of the fine line between qualifying or not. Theres the millions back on the calculated risk. Nothing radical. I dont accept the guinea pig status that the board has seen fit to deploy with little compunction and care for the fans wants and needs. Its underachieving and puts the club in a terrible light on a worldwide scale. Steau bucharest were perennial winners in a weak league who then excelled in europe i dont accept that its beyond celtic to do the same.
Answer being moderated broxi. Anyway its not my job to offer financial advice. The money is there for improved status im sure
Im also aware that thanks to rupert murdoch and the like that its a near impossibility to get near the big clubs. But we arr talking fine margins when it comes down to qualifying for the champions league and i think we have an inexperienced guy at the helm who is responsible for fucking it up. You get what you pay for my argument is we need to take a risk in someone experienced not a rookie. Long term plans dont cut it with the fans and there are no guarantees. The reserve teams are the place for developing talent not the coal face of europe. I admire the fact ronny is flexible in his team selections and i can almost fathom his thinking. Use the league cup like arsenal et al does to blood talent. And get a good balance of experience and youth in the team. Play defenders who can defend at least that have a range of passing thats adequate. ive never seen so many incidents of petulance from players in the one season as i have this year. This tells me that ronny doesnt have the respect of thr players and they ferl yhey have the latitude to bully the guy. He doesnt have the personality to manage he is full of altruistic positivity which is appealing but the map he is trying to navigate the team with doesnt suit the territory.
Well said iancelt, Agree with your post!
Just because keane moyes and someone else knockef the job back there are a plethora of guys out there theres even guys in Australia’s a who are better than ronny like ange postecoglu or graham arnold. Why is there always this clamouring to look to ireland for managers. To appease the fans? Even they looked to jack charlton for the limited successes they have had. Id rather craig levein or george burley instead of deila and thats saying something
Ian67. Ah watch a lot of Australian football; Graham Arnold is IMO the epitome of petulance only last week he walked oot from a ‘sit down’ interview. Give me RD anyday over Arnold. Jesus Arnold noo that makes me scared.
Ange seems a good guy, but he is goin nowhere from the Australian squad. No where. So put that one ti bed.
TBH ah find it strange that we are even discussing successors to Celtic manager in December. Like it or no ( ah know its a NO) but RD is here for at the very least til te end of the season.
To be fair, Deila’s successor was being discussed in June 🙂
” epitome of petulance “?
FFS another chocolateur!
I could do the Celtic job on my own with the squad we have.
First thing I’d do is sack Ambrose and Boerrigter!
What and neil lennon was not petulant lol.
Its almost like a script from a comedy. You can imagine the board meeting ” hmm who can we get on the cheap who wil fuck our horrible fans up? Lawell butts in “i hear ronny deilas free” the rest of the board “who the fuck is ronny deila?” Lawell ” excellent ill just get the lear jet ready i hear oslo and the fjords are lovely this time of year”
You have to laugh at some of this shite man….
Being questioned to give solutions but refuse to see that Deila is a massive problem? Brilliant.
Thousands and Thousands of Celtic fans are who aren’t accepting the shite they are being fed all wrong, they are all impatient and unrealistic…yadayadayada
Oh but wait, ” we will be ready next year “!
Brian i dont think angreor arnold are good candidates just examples of who i tjink are better. Also how many nice guys have won anything ?apart from amaybe pep guardiola
It’s all about results mate, I don’t give a fuck if it was a bowl of rice un the dugout as long as it got us into the CL!
Ronny Lovers? Who said this famous quote ” Build a side for Europe and Scottish football will take care of itself “?
I’ll give you a clue, he was successful, won the big cup and played with two strikers!!!
I wont bring ronny out up again monti but i remember getting up at five in thr morning to go to the irish pub in george st on sydney to watch the malmo games. I nevet witnessed two winnable games being meekly lost. And a group of fans threatening to smash the telly with a venom of anger that scared me witless. Fuck knows how the paying fans feel. Something isnt right. team wasnt dominated the games were lost through fucked up zonal marking it was like the defence just met each other at the job centre that morning.
But in saying all this its time for healing and rebuilding and living in hope that ronny will get it right.
sick of snidey english fuckers commenting on how bad celtic are when their provincial yokel teams have ten times the budget.
Forked out to get bein sports to watch thr molde games the naivety of the team was astounding.Anyway enough whinging. Put it down to a work in progress from the board down lower the expectations and enjoy a treble winninhg season.maybe
Fuck rebuilding and healing!
You shouldn’t betray your gut feelings, your instincts, in order to melt in with the chocolateur extraordinaire’s on here.
My thoughts and views are based on an understanding of the game and knowledge of the game.
I see MASSIVE problems at Celtic from boardroom to the dugout, including some fugazis in the dressing room.
THOUSANDS of Celtic fans are voting with their feet.
Yet some would like to talk about the Vermin and the media in Scotland!
Shit, I fancy a bit of chocolate today….
Celtic are in decline….
There’s one right there.
Boring. I’m changing the thread. So. Auld Rangers are deid. There is a new team called Sevco which claim a lot of the Old Rangers fans. Does anyone else notice that if there is the least chance of Sevco not winning promotion then there is talk of league re-construction, which, surprise, surprise means Sevco would automatically go up into our new 16 team top league? It is no coincidence.Conspiracy? I’m and old Fenian and an old Tim but I like fair play. As Hibs and Falkirk put up resistance, league officials are panicking and the MSM jump on board too.
Sevco, msm, league reconstruction, everybody is against us?
Has it ever been any different?
And you dare to call me boring?
Rangers will go up so will hibs
There is no Rangers, only it’s vile, rancid, Vermin offspring!
Fuck it deila out but with humility and safe passage back to norway. Ive groen to like the guy its like saying goodbye to a bint that doesnt do it for you
Ok to the end of the season i think the january market and what he does with it will define his future.
Ah take it was in Cheers ianc67? you live Sydney or holibag? On another note i’ll tell yi what though the boldMontizuma is pure beelin the day/night eh. Pure rattled his cage did BB. no too sure what the zuma is oan aboot wi the chocolate thingy reference though. Anyhooo….. another good diary.
The only thing that is rattled in here is the Deila lovers, who can’t see the problems staring down at us…..from the boardroom!
Delia out , board out, Players out, spend more money, Celtic are terrible and I some internet bampot can fix it if they only listen to me lol. Hilarious. As I said before this is becoming pointless. Im once again reminded of the shrill angry people that stood next to me in the jungle and simply abused our own team. Would any of the would be Board members here set out how they would go about achieving European dominance ??
It’s not about creating European dominance, it’s about the club gaining respect through our European performances and results!
How’s this one Bondi 🙂
Shite like your other ones!
Commenting on their own comments…wow!
It’s Staedler and Warldorf from the Mapped show!
NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA! 🙂
” Muppet show “!
” How’s this one Bondi”?
They sound like a couple of surfers down the beach….
I see my Birthday today is one that I share with the late Tommy Burns….
God bless you T.B. still sorely missed around the park!!
Happy birthday M.
TB, never forgotten.
Ronny Ronny Ronny. Out out out
Brian i live in glebe yeah it was cheers one paddy in particular was beside himself at our ineptitude but i think he was a closet hurling fan hail hail irish stock here scottish born celt and proud of it fuck the huns
Are you happy with the Celtic board passing information on to Police Scotland?
Will you support the board in their greed before safety attitude, selling ‘ home ‘ end tickets to Legia Warsaw fans for the ‘ home ‘ game at Murrayfield.
Were you at that game and did you see our fans being assaulted?
I was and I did.
The board don’t care about Celtic supporters, they care about taking our money, your money!
Buy the tickets, buy the programmes, buy from the club shops and superstores, buy from the food halls, by your Paradise windfall tickets, get in early to the Kerrydale suite…..and… We…will…give…you…..Tyler Blackett!
The board are laughing at us!
Peter Lawwell takes just under £1m per year according to Charlie Saiz.
Does anyone else think this obscene?
£1m per year for Downsizing the team, could he not have the decency to donate his £500,000 bonus to a foodbank!
Or how about only taking your bonus when we QUALIFY for the Champions league group stage? No?
Moldes first goal ttler blackett shat it and jumped out of the way of the shot he could have blocked. Gordon was furious at him
Fucking mercenaries who dont play for the heralded hoops. Why doesnt snyone see it look on you tube at the goal it may be digressing but if your getting a few thousand quid to play a game we would all give our eye teeth to play in you put your body on the line . Previous cpaches would not have a player of this calibre in a celtic team .
HAPPY BIRTHDAY MONTIZUMA! Noo ah get the chocolate references…dropping pressie hints ya wee bissum yi!
Iancelt…Ah know exactly the type of Tea Caddy your talking aboot, Cheers is full of them, they do ma nut in also.