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Celtic Diary Wednesday November 4: Deila Wins Manager Of The Month

Ronny Deila wins manager of the month. Fair enough.

“This award is for everybody – it’s for the whole club, the players, staff and everybody who has turned things around, and that’s good. So hopefully we’ll get more in the future. 

Bet he still keeps it in his house though.

“We’ve won a lot of matches in the league and getting through in the League Cup was an important win as well.

“Those were big games and it’s good that there are big games coming up all the time. I think we’re improving. You see more intensity in our play and we’re good at dealing with a lot of games because that’s also a tough thing that other teams don’t have to deal with.

 “We are in a good position domestically and now I’m looking forward to the game against Molde on Thursday night.” 

Maybe, just maybe , we’ve had our duff patch for the season and things will go a little more to plan now, starting , of course, on Thursday.

Some , for example the aptly named website “Talking Baws “, don’t seem to see it that way;

Written by Daniel Caw, this appears to be his application for a job in the MSM;

Ronny Deila should be sacked on Friday morning if Celtic’s Europa League campaign is effectively ended by Molde on Thursday night.

Plain and simple.

The Parkhead support are a faithful bunch, and many continue to stick up for their manager.

That’s an admirable trait in an age where managers are dispensed of far too quickly, under pressure from faceless money-men and fickle crowds.

But all the Ronny Roars in the world can’t disguise the Scandinavian’s woeful record any longer.

If the team currently ranked as the sixth-best in Norway’s Tippeligaen come to Glasgow and follow up their 3-1 victory from two weeks ago with a similar scoreline, then there will no evidence whatsoever to suggest that Ronny Deila deserves another crack at Champions League qualification in the Autumn of 2016.  

Yeah, and if he doesn’t make the final of the boat race again this year etc etc..

 Nonsense again.

Sometimes I despair. 

More good news for the club, well, probably, is that Peter Lawwell has edged Dave King for the nomination in the CEO awards. 

Lawwell has been nominated alongside Huw Jenkins (Swansea City), Jez Moxey (Wolverhampton Wanderers), Bob Symns (Peterborough United) and Jason McGill (York City).

The nominees have been shortlisted following a vote by their peers in each of their respective leagues.

Each winner will receive the award for their respective league at an awards ceremony on 5th November at Chelsea Football Club’s Stamford Bridge stadium before the overall winner is announced on the night.

fcbusiness Editor and Football Business awards judge, Aaron Gourley, said: “The award for CEO of the Year is one of the most prized in football. Each of the finalists is there because their hard work and dedication has been recognised by their peers.

“But the Football Business Awards are a fantastic way of recognising the efforts of everyone involved in the beautiful game and I’m sure, as each of our CEOs would testify, they would not be in line for an award without them.”

Chris sutton has offered manager Ronny deila some advice ahead of the Molde game, and it’s probably not too far away from what a lot of us have been thinking. 

Defensively, Celtic have been found wanting in the last 15 or 16 months in Europe and Ronny has to address that. “It is a problem that they’ve been so easy for teams to hit on the break.

He said a bit more than that, but the point remains. There has been a little bit of naivety at the back, and by simply stretching the two centre halves, Celtic’s opponents, in europe at least, have exploited that. 

 Cast your mind back a few years. 

Didier Agathe used to get a lot of abuse from the stands when he would sprint down the flank only to halt at the half way line, and then look as though he didn’t know what to do next. In fact, he had been expressly told not to enter the opponents half, but his pace had taken him ahead of the play. #

 Thats the sort of discipline that needs to be instilled in the two full backs on Thursday. Only one should be allowed in the opponents half at any time. 

And the centre backs must remain at the back. No wandering up field where all their pals are. 

Build from the back, make the defence solid, and let the forwards do their job without worrying that every time they score, the defence will let them down. 

Elsewhere, Second Rangers have published their accounts to June, which show they are losing about half a million a month, but Dave King is in charge, so don’t worry. 

They lost £7m for the year, give or take a couple of quid, which on an announced turnover of £16m is a spectacular achievement. 

You can have a look at it here, if that sort of thing interests you;

AnnualReport2015

Actually, it’s quite funny.

The main thing , though, is that they need money in quickly to ensure they complete the season.

Happy to help. 

Apparently not. 

and something else came out this morning, while we’re on about that lot;

Advocate General for Scotland v Murray Group Holdings and others

A scheme involving payments to various trusts set up in respect of executives and footballers employed by the former Rangers Football Club amounted to “a mere redirection of emoluments or earnings” and was accordingly “subject to income tax”.

Judges in the Inner House of the Court of Session allowed an appeal by the Advocate General for Scotland, acting on behalf of Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs (HMRC), against a decision of the Upper Tribunal in relation to tax assessments made on Murray Group Holdings and other members of the Murray Group of companies, including RFC 2012 PLC.

The Lord Justice Clerk, Lord Carloway, sitting with Lord Menzies and Lord Drummond Young, heard that in the tax years from 2001/02 to 2008/09 the companies entered into a series of transactions as part of a scheme designed to avoid the payment of income tax and National Insurance contributions (NICs) in respect of their employees, which resulted in assessments by Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs to income tax under the Pay As You Earn (PAYE) system and corresponding NICs. 

The companies challenged those assessments before the First-tier Tribunal, which upheld the appeal by a majority of two-to-one. An appeal by HMRC to the Upper Tribunal was refused in August 2014, but permission to appeal to the Court of Session was granted.

The scheme involved a cash payment into an Employees’ Remuneration Trust (the Principal Trust), and the trustee of the Principal Trust then paid the same amount into a sub-trust for the benefit of the employee and his family. The trustee of the sub-trust then advanced funds on loan to the employee in question.

The First-tier Tribunal held that the trustee of the Principal Trust had a “genuine discretion” as to how to apply the funds advanced to it, thus the benefit enjoyed by the employee and his family once the funds were resettled into the sub-trust resulted from the exercise of a “discretionary power” by the trustee of the sub-trust. 

Such a payment was not a payment of emoluments or earnings, and was therefore not subject to income tax, the First-tier Tribunal ruled.

However, HMRC contended that the cash payment made by the employing company to the trustee of the Principal Trust was in consideration of services by the employee, and thus had been “earned” by the employee. 

Therefore, the scheme amounted to “a mere redirection of earnings which did not remove the liability of employees to income tax”, it was argued. 

The court concluded that the argument by HMRC was correct, and accordingly allowed the appeal on that ground.

The judges observed that the “fundamental principle that emerged from previous cases was clear: “if income is derived from an employee’s servicesqua (in their capacity as) employee, it is an emolument or earnings, and is thus assessable to income tax, even if the employee requests or agrees that it be redirected to a third party”. 

Delivering the opinion of the court, Lord Drummond Young said: “That accords with common sense. If the law were otherwise, an employee could readily avoid tax by redirecting income to members of his family to meet outgoings that he would normally pay: for example to a trust for his wife…or to trustees to pay for his children’s education or the outgoings on the family home…The funds are ultimately derived as consideration for the employee’s services, and on that basis they are properly to be considered emoluments or earnings.”

In relation to employees other than footballers, the “true nature” of the individual transactions was that bonuses were paid into the trusts on the basis of the work performance of the employee in question, and the profitability of his employing company. 

“On the foregoing basis, we are of opinion that the sums received by the trustee of the Principal Trust and in due course by the trustees of the sub-trusts amounted to a mere redirection of income and thus constituted emoluments or earnings of the employees in question,” Lord Drummond Young said.

In relation to footballers, when a contract of employment was concluded, an additional side-letter provided for a discretionary trust payment and the amount of any bonus was typically negotiated by the footballer’s agent as part of his overall responsibility for securing “proper remuneration” for the player’s services.

Lord Drummond Young continued: “It seems to us to be self-evident that the obligations in the side-letter were part of the employee’s employment package, and provided him with additional remuneration. They were negotiated as part of the total employment package…Once it is accepted that the bonus payments represented consideration for a footballer’s services qua employee, it inevitably follows that those payments represented emoluments or earnings of the footballer in question.

“Furthermore, so far as the footballers are concerned, at least, it seems to us that if bonuses had not been paid they might well have taken their services elsewhere. We realise that the fifth respondent [RFC 2012] was in, potentially, a difficult financial position, competing for good players in an international market where other countries may not have the same rigorous approach to taxation as the United Kingdom. Nevertheless, the law is clear: the payments made in respect of footballers were in our view derived from their employment and thus the payments were emoluments or earnings.”

He added: “We accordingly conclude that the primary argument presented for HMRC is correct: the payments made by the respondents to the Trustee of the Principal Trust in respect of employees were emoluments or earnings and are accordingly subject to income tax. Furthermore, those payments were made at the time of payment to the trustee of the Principal Trust, with the result that the obligation to deduct tax under the PAYE system fell on the employer who made such a payment.”

 

The full opinion of the court can be accessed via the Scottish Courts and Tribunals Service website (see link below) from 12 noon on 4 November 2015:

http://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/search-judgments/judgment?id=8213f5a6-8980-69d2-b500-ff0000d74aa7   

Of course, we will be told that it doesn’t affect the “current regime ” at Ibrox, but thats because , of course, it’s a different club. 

But it does open up a an of worms around years and years of cheating. Especially that bit in bold.  

Cheating and compliancy….but we knew that anyway. 

Now though, something needs to be done about it. 

Noone got the answer to yesterdays question, which surprised me. The pic was of the Turkish president, and he was in the news because, from the Telegraph:

The president of Turkey has had to personally intervene to ensure the release of a football referee who had been taken hostage by the president of Turkish club, Trabzonspor.

The club’s president, Ibrahim Hacıosmanoğlu, ordered his team to lock the referee and his fellow match officials in the team’s dressing room after the team were denied a penalty in their 2-2 draw with Gaziantepspor. 

The four match officials were detained in the Trabzonspor stadium until the early hours of Thursday morning when a phone-call from Turkey president Recep Tayyip Erdoğan secured their safe release.

Referee, Çağatay Şahan, and his four colleagues were finally released from their stadium captivity at 4am under the supervision of special forces.

Hacıosmanoğlu admitted the intervention from a ‘very important person’ persuaded him to release the captive officials.

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Hugh67
8 years ago

Finalists in Sevco beauty contest take a break in the veranda of Directors box.

Their financial results were predictable (to everyone but them)

What do the SPFL and the individual member clubs do about these bastards cheating for years?

HH

pensionerbhoy
8 years ago

Are you renewing your season ticket, Aggie, if they move from here to Hampden?

H H

basqueceltic
8 years ago
Reply to  pensionerbhoy

Hail Hail PB long time no see,keep her lit.Slainte.

Stu67
8 years ago

rangers wag’s take time out in the vip executive lounge at ibrox

8 years ago

I can now tell you my info castle gray skull will be sold

Ralph malph
8 years ago
Reply to  drewster

Who by? Serious question.

8 years ago

Hmrc win tax caseb

Steve G
8 years ago

At last some common sense, I also read Mr Caws talkinbaws & wondered who was paying him to write this hysterical nonsense? Presuming that Sevco make it up next season, who would benefit most from Celtic being in chaos……….Give me a minute, I’m thinking, Jeese I know this…….wait I’ve got it…..SEVCO!!! Mr Caw on one hand talks of clubs & fans being too impatient & not giving managers time & on the other demands our double winning manager gets the chop less than a year & a half in!?? Let’s not forget that Celtic would probably being doing very nicely in Europe despite losing last years central defenders, if it was not for individual errors!
As for Rangers EBT’s……guilty & of course they got an advantage on the pitch, you would have to be an idiot or have another agenda not to see that!
Captions:-
Gollum, living prove that care in the community does not work!
Sevco wags live it large on their Xmas night out!

Danny Bhoy
8 years ago

Sevco WAGS?

Danny Bhoy
8 years ago

Drat Stu67 too quick for me, honest I didn’t copy him it was all my own work!

bgbhoy
8 years ago

old rangers lose tax case!!!!!

pensionerbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

bgbhoy

No! RANGERS “lose tax case!!!!!”

H H

bgbhoy
8 years ago

CHEATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hugh67
8 years ago
mike
8 years ago

Theiving cheating Bassass how many Foodbanks could that cash sustain.

pensionerbhoy
8 years ago

Make it quick, girls. Warburton’s just told me we’ve to get this place ready for parading the Champions League Cup.

Great how a few dolly birds can brighten up a place!

H H

charlie
8 years ago

celtic must demand the cheats are stripped of the titles doring the ebt years for the good of scottish football

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  charlie

Charlie,
I want the prize money that they were awarded during those years as well!

charlie
8 years ago

posthumously of course

charlie
8 years ago

i was off the drink till before the game tomorrow but fuck it to many huns sitting down my local waiting to be laughed at ha ha

Monti
8 years ago

Nothing will happen, the SFA sit for the purpose of one (dead) club!
David Murray and Campbell Ogilvie should be sitting in Jail, original Rangers history should be amended and every year those EBT years were in place, all titles and cup wins deleted from their concluded history.
This has been a fucking disgrace from day one of the Huns Circus.

Ibrox, Murray Park and the car park should be razed to the ground ( not sure how you raze a car park but i’d do it anyway).
Take their name away, their badge away and……

Breathe Monti….

Barry Ferguson and Neil Mccann…that’s a knock at the door boys, get your bank card out, Hector wants paid!

Cheating fucking scum!

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

The ill gotten gains of the EBT years will have to be revoked if this decision is upheld.
If the SFA don’t do the necessary, I will chain myself to the UEFA headquarters in Nyon and protest (dare I say it) til I’m blue in the face.
They will not get away with this and the rest of Scotland’s football clubs must seek justice.
If Celtic FC’s PLC don’t seek justice, then I will not go back.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

Correct!

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

It’s not their Name,Badge Car Park to take away Monti that belongs to the Tax Paying Businessman Mike Ashley.

Katanes
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Unless they were illegally purchased by Sevco from Sevco18XX or whatever they were called ……then their ownership is back with old Rangers and folks go to jail…..

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Katanes

win win then 😉

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago

I have a fool proof plan if you are all interested…
If we all pay a £5 we could buy out our shareholders own Celtic then pursue any grievance we wished.

Just saying………….
9 million Tims £5 buys a helluva lot of Lawyer time 😉

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Dinnae….lol

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Go on you thought about it though Monti and smiled…

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

I did!

Gerry
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Charlie, I had a go at making the payment but you’d have thought they could make it easier. You cannot made a card payment direct, and when I tried to go via PayPal I kept getting an error message when I clicked on the link on the Charity website, so couldn’t put it through. Did you have no problems?

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago

Caption:
Govan Sponsored Bunjee Jump Organisers pull out due to inadequate equipment.
“The Anchor Chain fae the Ark Royal would struggle with the weight boss…”

Hugh67
8 years ago

This cheating is not just a Celtic issue. Other SPL clubs were affected. The SPFL must take action.

Just thinking, they would take action against the dead rangers which presumably means their correspondence will be with BDO the current guardians of the corpse. They will have no interest in trying to defend in indefensible and the removal of all trophies gained while cheating will be removed from history!

Shirley!

Raymobhoy
8 years ago

The award for CEO of the Year is one of the most prized in football.

Its a sign of the times that what happens off the park is more important than what happens on it.

Jean Marc BawsMan
8 years ago

I don’t understand how the papers are using the Rangers crest in relation to the tax case. Surely Charles Green bought the crest for his new club and it currently resides in St. James’ Park under the stewardship of Mike Ashley?

Monti
8 years ago

I thought they were to be titled ‘ The rangers ‘?

I prefer ‘ The Huns ‘ tho!

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago

Am just waiting for a Statemnent from Ann Budge.
Go on hen gei it laldy… 😉

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Then efter she can release a “statement”.

Run Sammy Run
8 years ago

Whit time did Leigh say he’d be here?

Honest Hoops
8 years ago

Quite simple, take the Sir off Murray, they did it with the banker when it went belly up!!! remove the titles and trophies that were gained by cheating…and merit the teams who came 2nd or runners up…..as well as the money profited reimbursed to the clubs effected…..and stop the sevco promoting the 1873 crap….dead means dead…. Scotland’s shame forever…..

2-0 for the Celts tomorrow, I’m confident….Hail, Hail

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Honest Hoops

Agreed HH

8 years ago

Hey Ruth theres nothing tae worry aboot, oor men never paid any tax, but we have paid enough on oor fags n booze to cover it.

Cartvale88
8 years ago

The fascination with garbage from the MSM continues.
When Celtic Drew and almost beat Ajax in this years Europa, there was no mention of the sixth placed team in the Erdsvie beating Man United twenty four hours earlier
Now every article in the media advises that Molde are the sixth team in their league, strange.
It amazed me that the previous decision in Sevco’s favour did not cause a clamour in the media, it was a disgraceful statement by the establishment.
Our highly lauded Chief Executive should now take the SFA and the SPFL to task regarding the glory years, or is that the cheating years.
Any ways the mob will do their braying, claiming no one likes them they don’t care, but I care about the bias which has taken place in our fare and pleasant land, fare or should it be fair.
Celtic should win 3- 1 tomorrow HH COYBG

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Cartvale88

Molde are the top placed team in the Europa.
That’s all that actually matters seeing as that’s where we both meet to play Football tomorrow night.
Liverpool won the Champions League and finished 4th in the EPL.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Rangers won a Cup Winnes Cup without actually winning a Cup to qualify for it.
Domestic form means nothing in Europe.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

I did!

mr greene
8 years ago

Caption .

Finalists for the Miss Ibrox Contest confirmed .

Celtic to win by a couple of goals tomorrow night ®

Tourtenay
8 years ago

Is there a possibility that the people on the receiving end of these EBTs are in a position to sue rangers for the advice given at the time the contract was implemented, they don’t appear to be all rrm on that list !!

Funkyy
8 years ago

God bless wee Hector.
Now the chickens have come home to roost, it’s payback time.

Funkyy
8 years ago

I just love a good news day!!!

“In order to continue operations for the next 12 months the group is dependent upon raising additional finance,” the auditors note.

Adding: “Failure to secure additional funding would result in the existence of a material uncertainty which may cast significant doubt as to the Group’s ability to continue as a going concern.

“The financial statements do not include the adjustments that would result if the Group was unable to continue as a going concern.”

BroxburnBhoy
8 years ago

I have written and said many times to anyone who will listen that for sporting integrity to be upheld. Old Rangers records need to be changed and those titles and cups won during the EBT years need to be forfeited. Medals returned, those teams who played by the rules and came in runner up be promoted to winners. Gaining and unfair advantage by illegal means is called CHEATING. That is what they did. I equally agree that Sir David Murray and his Board are the culprits here. They cooked it up and they were responsible for corporate governance at the Oldco. Will these EBT loans be paid back? Unlikely as in court when asked “did you see this money as a loan or as wages’? – what might the answer look like given that a loan needs to be paid back – well at Ibrox that concept is somewhat fuzzy. Tax fraud is a very serious offence and jail time a real possibility as well as fines. Murray is going to find himself in the middle of this shit storm and that’s where he and the lying King should be. Jelly and Ice Cream coming up. Oh and they lost another 7.1m on top of the 8.3 they lost last year. 15 m lost in two years living above their means pretending to be “big”.

delbhoy
8 years ago

Is this right about simonivic being out??? This could have dire consiquences , the return of effy bombscare … feart

yestim
8 years ago
Reply to  delbhoy

where did you hear that, I have been all over the sports news and can’t find anything

deadhead67
8 years ago
Reply to  delbhoy

idiot leave efe alone

DantheMan
8 years ago
Reply to  deadhead67

For someone who is so hypercritical of the Manager Deadthing how can you possibly talk up Ambrose. He is a ticking time bomb at the back who we cannot afford in big games like tomorrow or even worse in Turkeyin a few weeks. Effe is offe as far as I am concerned come Christmas.

Devoy45
8 years ago

I’m thinkin there should be an award for the photographer who dared go near the Tons of Fun Chicks in the caption photo: crocodiles, white sharks, cobras but help ma boab! Jings crivvens.

Caption: “Jist hangin’ oot for some gorgeous lad fae the Etims website…cannae mind his name.”

Statistics question: “What will our trophy haul be once we get justice for those financial doping years? Some league titles, some Scottish and League cups. Hell, we might on 15 in a row by now?

No Simunovic? Tae hell. Please, no Efe. Who can serve? Lustig? Blackett? Is Mulgrew fit?
I still think 2-1.
Ronny, congratulations on the award. Well-deserved. Please keep up the good work tomorrow night.

Devoy45
8 years ago

p.s. How will the tax ruling impact on King, who was on the Board then?

Una
8 years ago

Fat Chicks Caption

From succulent lamb to drinking pissssh now that’s EBTS for ya.

Doc
8 years ago

Caption: With the ladies toilets at Ibrox in need of some repair, fans resort to using plastic cups.

The CoS decision is good news for every Scottish football fan that walks upright. I had a lengthy post after the UTT decision about how that decision was reached and how it was wrong, as well as a discussion with Charlie Saiz that wasn’t about Ronnie Deila for a change.

I have to say I was not fully 100% confident of things going in HMRCs favour but, justly, the Court allowed arguements not presented at FTT or UTT which are explained by Ralph in the diary. The main point I thought the FTT and UTT had erred on, which isn’t in the summary, was that they found the trusts were legit when it looked like they were merely a vehicle for the players to obtain the money without paying tax. The Court found that the trust setups were so weak that the players were in control of the money and that rangers are liable. There are some grounds for appeal within this judgement but I suspect the folk involved will not want to have their ‘mistakes’ giving evidence being analyzed by the Supreme Court. In the judgement, there are a few wonderful phrases that I love but my favourite is “an affront to common sense”, will it stick like “glib and shameless liar”? I certainly hope so.

While rangers were engaged in a mendacious scheme to gain unlawful advantages the following clubs were cheated out of trophies:
Ayr – LC: 2002
Celtic (mon the hoops) – SPL: 2003, 2005, 2009. SC: 2002. LC: 2003
Dundee – SC: 2003
Dundee Utd – LC: 2008
Falkirk – SC: 2009
Motherwell – LC: 2005
QoS – SC: 2008
As well as prize money and European competion.

rangers fc – an affront to common sense

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago

Caption:
Contestants for the Govan Bunjee Competition look deflated after Organiser pulls out due to technical difficulties
“Aye Boss the ropes no up tae it we would need the anchor chain fae the Ark Royal tae drop them aff the platform..”

delbhoy
8 years ago

Yestim i have the celtic news now app and its being reported on a couple of the stories there

delbhoy
8 years ago

Yahoo sport and read celtic

Salad Queen
8 years ago

In 1993 Elgin City were stripped of the league title for basically pulling a match forward and the manager have a wee bet on the outcome.
Fast forward 20 years and players place numerous bets to be hit with a few games ban, mostly suspended.Teams can also now reschedule a match a season.I suppose this is deemed progress in the eyes of the sfa!

Funkyy
8 years ago

It’s all good news today…Tom Rogic ready to discuss a contract extension.
Now, a victory tomorrow, hopefully along with a good performance, and it could be us back on track for the season.
I’ve got butterflies already!! Talk about extremes..a couple of weeks ago totally gutted, now looking forward confidently to a European match again..wha’s like us? HH

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Funkyy

I’ve got butterflies as well….Efe to replace Simunovic tonight!

Rab Wallce
8 years ago

“Aye aw 3 eyis swallae” Ranjurs burds.

LuckyQ
8 years ago

I stopped called ibrox Castle Grayskull after one of their supporters pointed out that it’s the home of the good guys……

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  LuckyQ

Castle Dracula then?

Monti
8 years ago

Did anyone see the STV news last night?
I thought that cunt was going to start crying at the prospect of the monkeys being stripped of titles, falling over themselves to point out THAT won’t happen.

If they were doing their fucking job, they should be demanding that it SHOULD happen

They are all fucking in on the great tax fraud, the media in this country are as bad as the cheats themselves!

A fucking disgrace!

Devoy45
8 years ago

It IS a disgrace.
Castle Grayskull (American spelling of ‘Grey’)was the home of the goodies.
The baddies, headed up by Skeletor lived on Snake Mountain.
Although Grayskull sounds evil,Ibrox should be called Snake Mountain despite snakes being good creatures because they eat rats and other vermin. Huns don’t usually respect the facts but in this case, your HUN ‘pal’was right.Come January 2016 I have a tax bill to pay and it will be paid because my name isn’t David Murray and I’m not rich. Lance Armstrong was stripped of his titles, so was Juventus, so what’s the problem? In our real world, if a person steals something and gets caught, besides being punished they must also return what was stolen to the rightful owners. The real issue hinges on whether those Ibrox players were properly registered or not. It’s a legal point, not an emotional one. They either were or they weren’t.

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Devoy45

Devoy
If we were located in some of the Arab states, Minty wouldn’t only be legless.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

Pmsl

delbhoy
8 years ago

Monti surely ronny cant put efe in tonight , that would be suicide , we heard all this pish before about him being picked because of his experience and he yet again cost us goals , he is a complete liability and puts the whole team on edge. I dont give a shit if hes a nice guy and gives a hundred percent, if i wanted my bathroom tiled i wouldnt hire someone on the strength that he was a nice bloke and had lots of experience but his tilings hopeless! The guy cant defend and has proven this again and again

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  delbhoy

delbhoy,
I don’t have any faith in him, he has had his chance at Celtic m8!
The problem is, if Simunovic is out, who else is there?
If Janko was fit you could play him at RB with Lustig moving into the middle with Boyata!

Monti
8 years ago

A wee bit unlucky to be going in at half time 1-2 down, however defensively we are shocking.
Tierney having a great game again and I’d bring Forrest on at half time….come on Celtic, finger OOT!

Monti
8 years ago

Abysmal!

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