Charlie Saiz lets the facts get in the way of a good rant.
Here is the list of Celtic Managers past and present going from that glorious day in May 1987 to present day.
1897-1940 Willie Maley 43 Years Win Ratio 64.42%
Trophies: 16 League Titles 14 Scottish Cups
1940-45 Jimmy McStay 5 Years War Time No Trophies
1945-65 Jimmy McGrory 20 Years Win Ratio 49.71%
Trophies: 1 League Title 2 Scottish Cups 2 League Cups
1965-78 Jock Stein 13 Years Win Ratio 70.14%
Trophies: 10 League Titles 8 Scottish Cups 6 League Cups 1 European Cup
195-76 Sean Fallon (Interim Manager) 10 Months Win Ratio 60.38%
Trophies: None
1978-83 Billy McNeill 5 Years Win Ratio 64.2%
Trophies: 3 League Titles 1 Scottish Cup 1 League Cup
1983-87 Davie Hay 4 Years Win Ratio 56.94%
Trophies: 1 League Title 1 Scottish Cup
8 Managers in 100 Years
1987-91 Billy McNeill 4 Years Win Ratio 55.33%
Trophies: 1 League Title 2 Scottish Cups
1991-93 Liam Brady 2 Years 4 Months Win Ratio 53.97%
Trophies : None
Frank Connor (Interim Manager) 4 Games Won 3 Drew won 75% Win Ratio
1993-94 Lou Macari 8 Months Win Ratio 35.29%
Trophies: None
1994-97 Tommy Burns 3 Years Win Ratio 55.71%
Trophies : 1 Scottish Cup
Billy Stark (Interim Manager) 3 Games Won 2 Drew 1 Win Ration 66.67%
1997-98 Wim Jansen 1 Year Win Ratio 64.71%
Trophies: 1 League Title 1 League Cup
1998-99 Joe Venglos 1 Year Win Ratio 58%
Trophies: None
1999-2000 John Barnes 8 Months Win Ratio 65.52%
Trophies: None
2000 Kenny Dalglish (Interim Manager) 18 Games Win Ratio 55.56%
Trophies: 1 League Cup
9 MANAGERS IN 9 YEARS 1991 -2000
2000-2005 Martin O’Neill 5 Years Win Ratio 75.53%
Trophies: 3 League Titles 3 Scottish Cups 1 League Cup
2005-2009 Gordon Strachan 4 Years Win Ratio 65.02%
Trophies: 3 League Titles 1 Scottish Cup 2 League Cups
2009-2010 Tony Mowbray 9 Months Win Ratio 51.11%
Trophies: None
2010-14 Neil Lennon 4 Years 2 Months Win Ratio 70.04%
Trophies: 3 League Titles 2 Scottish Cups
2014- Onwards Ronny Deila 16 months Win Ratio 66.27%
Trophies: 1 League Title 1 League Cup
You will see from the details a pattern emerges and that is the more frequent you chop and change Managers the less successful we became.
There are folk screaming for Ronny Deila to be replaced already in his short spell at Celtic.
The reason being used is our displays and results in Europe.
Most Managers are judged by their results in their Domestic Leagues some their Combined Domestic and European results but that is obviously down to Club expectations etc.
Be they Financial or otherwise.
The thing is Ronny Deilas win ratio stands up against some of our most successful Managers.
Maley,McNeills first spell ,Jansen and Strachan.
He’s under Stein O’Neill and Lennon but of course the 2 first names took Celtic sides to European Finals and were a cut above in that respect.
So I personally think it would be a bit of a folly to push the panic button on Ronny Deila seeing as already in his short tenure 2 trophies are already safely nestling in the Parkhead Trophy Room.
History tells us getting rid too soon can undermine the one thing you are trying to achieve it that is success.
European Football is not a given at Celtic it is something to look forward too and enjoy but I think you are playing a very dangerous game if you are going to start judging Managers by the results because the bottom line is only one of them ever actually achieved the ultimate goal in all our years as a Football Club and that man was streaks ahead of the rest.
History will judge Ronny Deila just like it has judged the rest give the man time to make some I say.
Be careful what you wish for.
Ronny will be given another crack at Europe, me thinks.
Inaccurate report on tam burns his side won Scottish cup
Yes I missed that been altered Cheers Chas.
Tommy Burns won the Scottish Cup in 1995 mate but your point remains. This has been one of the best starts any manager has made at the club. Ronny the first man since Sean Fallon in 1975/76 to keep us in Europe after Christmas in first season. HH
I feel bad for John Barnes, he got us through to the League Cup final and Kenny Dalglish gets the credit for that trophy just for beating Aberdeen. The main reason I feel bad for him though is he lost Henke when he broke his leg in the opening weeks of the season. That moment in Lyon is what gubbed us that year. It all worked out of course, as we got Martin and the rest is history. But IMO Tony Mowbray was a failure and Barnes was just unlucky. POTY in 1998/99 with 38 goals for a poor Celtic side, 12 goals in his first 12 games under Barnes, and, just like that, out for the season. Impossible task winning the league after that with David Murray dishing out the EBTs and spending bank “loans” on multi-million pound players.
I agree with all of that H7 but all Celtic Managers have had to deal with different sets of circumstances including Ronny Deila.
He did not inherit a great team when Lenny left we were poor in Europe in his final Season the writing was already on the wall.
The Board should have gave Lenny the Investment he needed but instead chose to sell for profit and fail to replace with a similar standard.
That can only go on for so long before it becomes detrimental to what you are supposedly trying to achieve.
Deila has only just stated to shape his own side it normally takes 2/3 years for that transition to happen.
He’s been in the job less than a year and a half and has 2 trophies already secured.
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Absolutely Charlie, Ronny is building his side, fans should get behind him and not believe the press hysteria about a few bad away Euro performances. We’d have had only the 4th treble in our history if it wasn’t for some classic SFA refereeing in the semi-final against ICT. As I mentioned, only the great Jock Stein and his caretaker Sean Fallon managed to give us European football after Christmas in their first year, both Cup Winners’ Cup (JS reached SF & SF made the QF). So even those who are short-sighted enough to only take Europe into account should realise how our managers normally do in their first year. MON lost against Bordeaux at Celtic Park in UEFA Cup R2, Neil Lennon got put out of UCL & UEL to Braga & Utrecht in qualifying. Strachan lost 5-4 on aggregate to Artmedia Bratislava. Ronny is building his side and already looks capable of 2+ trophies a season as well as giving us the bonus of some European football at Parkhead. It’s a young squad and he’s still putting it together. 13 Scots have played in our first team this year, with Henderson & Christie among the others to come back from loans. The future is bright, the future is green & white
TB won a Scottish cup
I’m not screaming for Ronny to go, but I think his time is up. I really really hope to be proved wrong, but I have no belief he will lead us to the CL next season. On that basis I would change manager now. That said I don’t think he will be sacked and on that basis he and the team will get my full support as always.
Tommy Burns actually did win a trophy, that being the Scottish Cup win with Van Hooyidonk scoring the only goal if my memory serves me correctly.
NZ Sean logue from dickson joinery 25 years ago. .
Now edited. My fault.
It’s actually a good thing Tommy has been brought up because he was given 3 years at Celtic and only had a solitary Cup to show for all his effort.
My point is I think as time has progressed fans have become less patient now than they were decades ago.
I think the Season we had under Lenny has given some a false impression of where we actually are as a Club.
As a result Ronny has a lot to live up to.
So much has changed even from the O’Neill era especially at Celtic we simply do not spend big any more and we don’t keep sides intact as long.
I think the constant turnover of playing staff is of detriment to our capabilities and that to do the same with Management would be possibly catastrophic in the short term and damaging in the long.
Something worth considering if you are one of those calling for sackings this early into our Managers spell.
16 month and he has already 2 Trophies in the bag.
His win rate is up there with Strachan and as pointed out we are at least still competing in Europe and 3 other Trophies this Season.
I think he should get 3 years that’s my honest opinion.
He’s certainly delivered enough for at least 1 more.
You know my thoughts on this Charlie . Ronnie must stay! I do think he should be allowed to bring in his own back room staff if he wants to. I am intrigued by the number of young Scottish Players now on the payroll and some of our own being talked about. This is a job half way through.
Spot on Dan.
KTF
Excellent and mature article – and so unlike the hysteria printed elsewhere.
Thank you Tom very much appreciated.
HH
Looking at all that John Barnes did well! Damn statistics
great post – good point well made and adds some balance. everyone has the right to their opinion and we have more in common than all our differences, but I feel the MSM are making negativity out of out current issues and we can, or at least I can, easily fall into the trap.
I personally love what Ronny (still caps) and Celtic are trying to do and I hope it comes off. a younger side, with higher value, playing better football. I know Malmo and Molde were terrible nights, but I thought we’ve had a similar upside against Qarabag, inter etc where signs were we were growing up a bit in Europe, playing effectively, with discipline etc.
Ronny’s plan and methods may not prove to be successful, but to me they are the only game in town right now.
As for Moyes/Rogers/Klopp etc, no doubt they have plenty of talent, but it strikes me they were at times average even when they had a mega millions to spend on players etc. Cant see any benefit in that type of approach myself.
I’m right behind Ronny & Celtic.
Still annoyed at commons behaving so poorly, and the subsequent opportunity it gives the press in general to get tore in to us. Tell you one thing though, I’m glad we’re all as committed as the posts have shown over the last few days – with that behind us I think we can achieve anything.
So come on, lets attend and support loudly and we can reappraise after the last EL group match.
Moan the hoops
Thanks Brendan appreciated bud.
HH
Well said Brendan
The point is that Ronny is manager of Celtic when there is no domastic compotition ,where does that show on your statstis .He san only be properly judged in the European Competitions,what does the stats show on that.Ronny is very good at development,but as manager sorry but no thanks.
Mike! No domestic competition? Should the clubs chip in fror Sevco? Were you decrying Rangers managers when they had the highest players in the UK and failed everytime in Europe! No?
Keep the faith!
He took a team from nowhere and won his National League.
How many of the above Managers did that?
He does not have a great Celtic team at his disposal in fact a high percentage of them would be lucky to get near any of the previous decent Celtic sides.
Look at the Strikers others had at their disposal compared to Griffiths Stokes and Ciftci?
He’s not finished building yet ffs give the man a chance to prove himself.
2 Trophies straight off the bat?
Look at the amount up there who drew blanks.
Fresh article, thank you. The media are after RD they are after his blood, they attack every Celtic manager.
Cant remember The Blessed Cardigan getting hounded for missing trebles or Fat Swally for getting pumped in the Petro’ cup despite have the 2nd largest Scottish ‘War chest’ while being the highest paid manager?
FK the press, RD is building more than a team, give him time and yes, he will make mistakes, rise above the Red Top agendas.
Sentiment aside, why are we trusting J Kennedy as a Coach?
Sorry, RD should have his! Coaches in place, I include Collins here too.
Ronny, sort out your Coaching staff, bring in a sneeky street smart defense coach, pap JK to U 21s.
Spot on Thomas I wonder if Mjalby would be interested in coming back as a no2?
Is that NZ SEAN LOGUE granny in cranhill easterhouse worked for dixn joinery
The difference is n your comparisons is that up until Lennon, we had competition. We were a good side, our opponents, yes, even in Scotland, were good sides. We stood shoulder to shoulder with Real Madrid, Liverpool, Barcelona, Manchester Utd. Fast forward to what you are trying to compare the past up against. We struggle to stand toe to toe with Motherwell, Hamilton Accies, St. Johnstone, Ross County, Inverness Caley, Partick Thistle! We embarrass ourselves against Legia Warsaw, Molde, etc. teams we wouldn’t break sweat against before. So if you want to compare, compare an apple to another apple! Not a peanut to a watermelon.
So were Clyde and Morton Peanuts or shall we go down to micro biology for a comparison?
Jozo was in an article today talking about his former Club and it’s comparisons to our own.
He was spot on we are by far the best side in our League but the jump up from our own situation to Europe can be difficult if you do not play to your Capabilities on the night.
Teams who play in Europe are not mugs,they have players regardless of being household names who will punish you if you fail to show up.
Mistakes will be punished severely.
Now throw into the equation we don’t produce the same level of player now in Scotland that we once did and the level of player we now target ie Young with potential then the risks involved then become greater.
We lost to Molde simply because the plyaer we do expect to turn up and give it 1005 simply never and Molde just like Legia Maribor Malmo have players who did and rightly got a result.
Our history is littered with poor results bud and with much better players in it than this.
CLyde,Morton,Super Caley,Artmedia,Neuchatel even the Lions had their moments bud.
I don’t think Deila is the issue I think the perception and expectation levels of the modern day Celtic fan is.
Shakhter have been the most one dimensional side I have ever seen Celtic play in Europe.
Long Ball merchants with nothing else to offer other than a big punt,cross or throw in into the box.
They beat us 2-0.
We replied with 3-0 and celebrated as if we had reached the Champions League Final forgetting in an instant the shot off the bar and the goal line clearance that kept us in it.
Fine Margins.
We then proceeded into the Group and managed to get 3 points from a possible 12 and ended up bottom of the table.
That’s the side Deila inherited…minus the class act we had in Goals of course who saved our arses so many times in Europe.
We have downsized continuously from Martin O’Neill and Seville.
Our League has deteriorated within the same timespan and as a result the quality has suffered at Celtic and in the League.
The gap to Europe got wider.
The jump we have to make has increased as a result.
You can choose to ignore all of that of course and simply say “we should be beating these teams “.
There are
players’ 100%’.
…There are limitations to what we can achieve from where we ply our trade domestically unless of course we go down the spending route as under O’Neill?
But then that surely means we too are creating a wider gap in our own League and turning it into a formality before a ball is even kicked?
UEFA have created the problem.
Teams that win their Leagues should be in the “Champions League” as a matter of principle.
But they aren’t and as a result we and Clubs like us are suffering.
We should not be having to play games so early in the pre Season it’s a joke.
Some of the teams we come up against are already 20-25 games into a Season and we are effectively facing them from a standing start expected to not only match them but beat them.
On plastic half the time.
We are having to bed new players in every season now because we now sell our best to make money.
These are all factors that affect your capabilities in Europe because as covered earlier the standard of the teams we face like it or not is better.
Well said Charlie.
Thanks Funkyy
HH
LEGIA, MARIBOR, MALMO, MOLDE!!
CLOSE THE DOOR BEHIND YOU DEILA….
so Charlie, should we have given Tony Mowbray longer then?
Did John Barnes deserve to be kept on?
£40m+ of CL money gone with Deila at the helm, Molde a team sitting mid table in the mighty Norwegian league shat all over us last week…alarm bells ringing yet?
I notice Ronny didn’t do his party piece ‘ Ronny roar ‘ after the Dundee Utd game…
Worried about the reception you would get Ronny?
A cheap option gamble of a manager get’s you nights like Molde…..shambles!
I think Barnes/Mowbray trophies 0 Ronnie Trophies 2 answers that one Monti. Give the guy more time. What is the rush? We are on our way to 5 in a row and we are still in Europe and the two cups until tomorrow at least.
Spot on Monti! We’re not expecting to win the champions league and maybe too early for the Europa but ffs surely by now we should be showing signs of some improvement.
Monti my thoughts entirely.
Thomas, lets get one thing CLEAR. I would never mention thems in any context,I am only ever interested in Celtic!!!
I never want to see my club Humiliated in Europe again.
This is Glasgow Celtic we’re talking about. Not Stromgodstet.
HH.
It’s all very well the fans being split about Ronnie’s tenure, but the people who have the final say are the major share holders who principally look forward to a run in the CL, hopefully as far as the last sixteen. Our failure to achieve this since Ronnie took the reins, especially in the manner we lost to Maribor and Malmo from positions of strength, will not have pleased the money men. The consolation cup is also not going well so far and I believe Ronnie has only got the remaining three games to save his bacon. If he blows out in that, he’ll be out and a new manager will be given the opportunity to prepare for next season’s attempt at CL qualification. In the meantime the board will be getting the annual sale preparations underway.
Celtic don’t budget for Champions League Champions League is not a given.
If we did Budget for Champions League we would not be spending money on Ciftci Armstrong and Mackay-Steven.
Those aren’t Champions League level players.
Yet.
You cannot lose what you did not have.
Pretty sure the clubs ‘business model’ requires participation in the CL group stages 3 out of every 5 years, or maybe I’m mistaken…. but I’m not.
Really?
So give the Manager 3-5 years to solve the issues he’s having.
I am pretty sue Lawwell stated we have a stand alone set up at Celtic.
No mention of that requiring extra revenue from the CL.
3 out of 5 years is what he said.
Stand Alone.
Really! Then he started to greet about ‘them’ no longer being there.
No bad points charlie but can i point out that tommy was up against a hugely successful rangers team with people like laudrup gasgoine and gough, not to mention the masonic refs. Ifthat was this year burns would have won trebbles
deila must go he has made us a shambles, his arrogance of not changing his playing system if when its clear to see its not working is going to cost us dearly, good piece on Celtic managers but in deilas case there is a difference between his win ratio and the others and I am not going to mention them.
The thing is Corktim we should be trying out different systems in the spl (as the quality is piss poor)to prepare us for Europe
The reason we play 4-2-3-1 in the Domestic League is so we are fully prepared to play it in Europe.
The players know the system inside out it’s just the application of it that has been the issue.
Poor individual errors
Poor individual performances
If these two things are addressed BY THE PLAYERS then the system works fine.
Thank God for the most common sense article I have ever read on RD Ralph. You completely mirror my own sentiments and put the whole situation in perspective. Most of the moronic and negative comments I would bet come from so called fans who don’t attend matches and just repeat parrot fashion what they read in the Daily Record. Remember it took Lennon a couple of years to get to the group stages of the CL and he only won the SC in his first full season and that was after being at the club for years and was completely familiar with his surroundings whereas RD was pitched in with two assistants not of his choice. My opinion is that the main strength behind Lennon was Mjalby. It must be said that since Mjalby’s departure from Bolton that Lennon hasn’t won a game and if I were Lawell I would do my utmost to obtain his services in support of RD. Remember RD was cheated out of an historic Treble in his first full season so get real you sceptics and leave your prejudice feelings behind and get behind the manager with your support.
Not mine. It’s by Charlie Saiz.
‘So called fans and morons’, why? Just because they don’t agree with your assertions.
Everyone is different in their views and many believe RD is quite rightly, on borrowed time.
And yes, like many on here, we do actually attend the games, although, if you looked around the park on Sunday, those numbers are dropping off significantly under the guidance of Mr Deila and as has been the case in the past, attendances, or lack of them, will be the noose round Deila’s neck.
Of couse that dropping attendance has absolutely nothing to do with the Board and it’s approach to Investment.
Our Attendances have been dropping every year since O’ Neill left.
Yes there have been a couple of fluctuations but it has got wose since our main rivals and threat died.
Guarantee if they come up CP will be jam packed next Season when and if we meet.
Not to the extent they are dropping to now.
The problem is he doesn’t have a plan B – HE DOESN’T KNOW HOW TO CHANGE!
Let’s watch the crowd (myself included) not go back, that will force him out.
Its interesting to see the press reaction to Ronnie compared to McCoist and McInnes .McInnes’s spell at Aberdeen has saw them win one European game at home in the last 3 years pumped out before the end of August again this year and we all know McCoists record.Having said that Ronnie needs to get that defence sorted.
Could you have made that list harder to read?
Is it even possible to make that list harder to read?
be grateful you serfs the upper classes know best now put your money in while we take it out
Charlie
A very fair and balanced assessment – totally agree.
Charlie, win percentages are misleading as MON 60% win record on route to Seville is much better than RD 100% League Cup record.
All games are there to be won.
How low do we have to sink for you to want another manager?
We are top of the League in 4 Competitions I don’t get your question Doc.
The Season has barely got going yet.
You don’t have a problem getting beat in Europe by teams with a fraction of our budget? The one-off, shocking, bookie beating results are far too common under Deila.
@Doc you seem to be overly concerned about Europe your not the only one I may add but since you brought up Martin O’Neill let’s take a closer look at his first Season shall we?
He won us the treble oustanding start to a Managerial reign though bear in mind who he replaced and the cicumstances in which he did.
The Side he picked up contained the following players among others:
McNamara Boyd Stubbs Mjalby Rieper Riseth Berkovic
Lambert Petrov Petta Larsson and Moravcik
He then added to this Squad by spending over £19m on the following:
Douglas £1.2m
Valgaeren £3.7m
Thompson £2.75m
Lennon £5.75m
Sutton £6m
Agathe £50k
In the Uefa Cup we played 6 Games against
Jeunesse HJK Helsinki Bordeaux
Of those we Won 3 :
4-0 Away to Jeunesse 7-0 Home Jeunesse and 2-0 Home to Helsinki
We Drew 1 1-1 at Home to Bordeux
Lost 2 2-1 Away to Helsinki and 2-1 away to Bordeux
Sc 16 Conceded 5.
Now bearing in mind the reaction to Us failing to qualify for the CL and the subsequent reaction from the likes of yourself how lucky was Martin O’Neil not to be getting the boot after such an average outing in Europe with over £30m worth of talent in his side?
You would be lucky to pick 3 players in the current side who could get into that side above.
Gordon yes and Brown at a push.
But we were happy back then glad we had a side capable of lifting trebles and titles ..apparently not so now?
It’s the level of expectation that has changed among the Support that is the main issue now I feel and the whole point of putting this thread up.
The exploits in Lennys finest Season have blinkered a great many but not us all.
It was a one off,stars aligning moment than can happen in Football.
As Malaga proved by making it to the quarters that same year unbeaten in their Group.
I shall say this one more time Europe is not a given it should not be the Barometer to measure any Celtic Boss.
We don’t spend like we did,we don’t have the same level of youngster in Scotland we once produced and last of all when we do find a gem we sell them quickly for profit.
It’s a different ball game now for any Celtic boss.
Judge him against Lenny by all means he had the same issues except one difference he followed a bad Manager Deila followed a successful one.
@ Charlie. Bordeaux were ranked the same then as Athletico Madrid are now (26th), we were all over them for 80 minutes and they snatched the win from us. To perform that way against such a highly ranked team, that kept improving the next season, is something Deila can only dream of, we can’t even beat the smaller teams to play against teams ranked that high.
As for your player comparison, I would swap four players: Gordon ahead of Gould, Lustig for Jackie, Forrest for Agathe and Commons for Petta (would keep Stan over Brown).
Money spent on transfers, average per season, Deila has spent more than O’Neill.
I think the barometer is about Europe, it attracts players, provides finance and gives many, hopefully, memorable nights. Without Europe, I fear we will become a stepping stone to EPL. Deila inherited some big problems and I genuinely believe that they are/were not insurmountable, but he has failed to address them. Lennon had a few shocking results as well but he also had some really good ones, Deila has had more bad results and his best ones aren’t good enough. What are Deila’s best results, a draw in Europe against a team that were destroyed in the next leg and failed to qualify domestically, a semi final win against a lower division team? I maintain that if results like those are the best he can achieve, then he is in over his head.
One of Deilas problems is that he is a coach and not a manager. I’m not calling him a cheap option or a ‘yes-man’ as others have done, but he is too much of a nice guy, I just can’t see him marching into Lawwell’s office and demanding X, W or Z. He needs to toughen up and ask for more out of those around him, both players and staff, after all, its his job that is at stake, not Peter Lawwells’s.
Y not W
He managed to coach a team from nowhere and turn them into the best team in his Country.
How many former Celtic Managers can make that claim?
Kenny Dalglish at Balckburn Rovers..(With Jack Walkers Millions)
Most Celtic managers haven’t managed a team for half a decade, let alone one ‘from nowhere’. O’Neill was at Wycombe for about 5 years and Macari was at Swindon for around the same and both got promoted twice. Taking 5 years to lift a team 20 league places doesn’t compare well with other Celtic managers.
Fs Doc O’Neill added to a good side by splashing nearly £20m on it straight away.
That’s 15 year ago when £6m got you a Sutton Lennon or Hartson.
It’s all relative to the point I am making.
O’Neill had a better side to start with and spent far more money on it than any other Celtic Manager prior or since improving it.
Give Deila £20m and see how he goes?
Not a chance we are a selling club now not a buy
Not a buying one as under O’Neill.
“Without Europe, I fear we will become a stepping stone to EPL”
Newsflash we are already a stepping stone to the EPL have been for 3 years mate.
Ki Hooper Wanyama Forster Van Dijk …..
1 player a season isn’t too bad, look at the mess Dundee United are in after losing 5/6 first team players in a year. If we can’t offer European football, players will go to clubs that can.
Players come to Celtic now as they know we are a route to the EPL bud Jozo and Bitton will no doubt be next at some point possibly even Johansen if he can get back to last years form.
Europe is the sweetner but the end result is the same.
But again Europe is never nailed on no matter who is in charge.
If we spent more on quality finished players then the likelihood increases but we are no longer doing this.
The SPL is not as good as the EPL but it is still a British style of game.These players know it’s a great way to adapt to that style if they come here first before making the main move they want.
If they prove themselves at Celtic then they know other Clubs will take notice very quickly.
I have no doubt whatsoever in my mind when Lawwell sat down with Jozo and his agent he laid that out first.
Ki Forster Wanyama Hooper Ledeley Van Dijk will have been used as examples of how quickly that can happen.
“Come here play in this Stadium in Europe under the lights,Have a chance at Champions League every year,lift a few Trophies get the support of the best fans in the game,Improve your game then get your move to the big time son in under 3 years…what do you say?”
That’s how I would be selling it to them.
1 Player a Season isn’t too bad if you replace him with similar or better quality Doc.
But when you look at O’Neills side he retained his best and added with more quality.
This why we are now finding it getting more difficult to achieve our aims year on year.
The new Policy is great for the balance sheet but it does the team sheet no favours at all bud.