Ronny Deila says he wants to offer Kris Commons a coaching role as part of the new contract on offer to the forward. Maybe he knows theres likely to be a vacancy soon.
“We have a good dialogue now about this and that is going forward all the time.
“Kris wants to stay and we want to keep him and that is what’s most important so things will be arranged.
“We also have to be happy he wants to stay.“
Commons has been asking for his new deal since last christmas, so he probably does want to stay, however , things may have changed since then. He’s been linked with a number of sides in the English midlands, but that could be just to force Celtics hand. If the stories are true that he’s been offered a wage cut, its another piece of history for the club, as I’m fairly sure that no other club has given its top scorer a drop in wages. Given the deal that was on offer to Georgios Samaras, it would come as no surprise, and this is probably the main reason no top player would want to come to Glasgow.
They do talk amongst themselves, you know. Probably in single syllable words, but they talk nonetheless.
Another ex-player who has been talking is Roy Keane. He’s got a new book out, and in it he talks of the offer made to him by Dermot Desmond to become Celtic manager;
‘I got a call: would I go and have a chat with Dermot Desmond? I’d met him once before, in 2005, when I was signing to play for Celtic.
‘I met him for a cup of tea. It was in the middle of an international week, in Dublin.
‘At the end of the chat, he said: ‘The job is yours’.
‘It was all pretty straightforward. There would be one or two restrictions, about staff. They had already picked the man who would be my assistant and they were insisting on him.
‘It didn’t scare me off but it did get me thinking. It wasn’t an ideal start. Were they doubting me already?
‘I came back to the team hotel and spoke to Martin (O’Neill). I told him I would have a think about it.
‘We (the Republic of Ireland) had a game against Italy at Craven Cottage in London on the following Saturday.
‘The fact I had spoken to Dermot Desmond had become public knowledge.
‘It had to, because Martin had a press conference and a few things had been leaked — as usual.
‘I was delighted. It was a massive compliment. Over the years, I had always said: “If you’re offered the Celtic job, you don’t turn it down”.
‘I was in a predicament …and my gut feeling was saying: ‘You’re on your own with this one’.
‘I asked Paul Gilroy, the League Managers’ Association lawyer, to speak to Celtic to discuss terms. Money hadn’t been mentioned yet.
‘I got in touch with Celtic’s chief executive, Peter Lawwell and asked him to give me a ballpark figure before negotiations got going.
‘He mentioned a figure and he said: ‘But that’s it’. Paul told me there were a lot of clauses in the contract that he wasn’t happy with. And the figures were non-negotiable.
‘I got my head around that. But it felt a bit too familiar. I had been down this road before when I signed for Celtic as a player.
‘I felt they wanted me but they weren’t showing how much they wanted me.
‘We played Italy on the Saturday and I had a message on my phone on Sunday from Dermot Desmond.
‘They wanted a heads-up by tomorrow, Monday.I thought about the Celtic offer. It wasn’t rocking my boat.
‘They weren’t convincing me: ‘Listen, you’re the man for us’.
‘I went to Paul Gilroy’s house (on Sunday night). There were things I wasn’t happy with in the contract. But I know if you examined every clause too carefully, you would never sign anything.
‘I rang Dermot Desmond on the Monday and said: ‘I’m really honoured you offered me the job but I want to stay with Martin’.’
‘Had Celtic shown enough in their negotiating, ‘we’ll move this, you can take that’ — a bit of give and take — I might have hesitated.
‘They just didn’t show me that they wanted me and I was happier staying in the Ireland job.
‘Working with Martin had given me back a love of the game and I’m all for showing a bit of loyalty.
‘I had only been in the job two minutes. We hadn’t played a competitive game yet.
‘I felt powerful saying: ‘No’. I felt good. But I wondered if I was making the right decision.
‘Right job, wrong time.’
Whether or not Keane is telling the complete truth, only he knows, but its interesting that he didn’t get to choose his number two, in much the same way that Deila never got to choose his. Its almost like the board wanted their own man in there, probably to keep an eye on the manager.
Which is reminiscent of the old board and their efforts to break the Stein Fallon partnership when Davie MacParland got the assistants job, which had the internet been around at the time, would have been much more of an issue. Instead, all we had was the Celtic View, and the title of that paper tells you prety much what was going to be in it. And some pictures of dogs in the hoops.
While Ronny is proving not to be up to the job in a number of ways, the hidden hand behind the scenes needs to have its knuckles rapped as well.
Its not right for them to continually point across the city and tell us that we don’t want to go down that road, but in reality its like locking yourself in the cellar because your neighbour has the flu. There was never any chance that Celtic would follow the path laid down by the now defunct Rangers, simply because what happened to them they brought upon themselves with reckless financial behaviour, aided and abetted by a compliant bank manager.
Lets face it, that would never be on offer to any Celtic owners.
The fiscal prudence at the moment may well be the right way to do things, especially with the new financial fair play rules, but you can sometimes overcook the meat.
The bookies are already taking bets on the name of the man to succeed Ronny Deila, when he eventually becomes the fall guy for the arse Lawwell has made of this season. Owen Coyle, Jackie MacNamara and Steve Clarke are joint favourites at 4/1, while Henrik Larsson is out at twelves, along with Roy Keane and Derek MacInnes.
Davie Moyes is 8/1, and won’t consider the post until he sorts out his contractual issues with Manchester Utd, where he was the fall guy for the boards failure to invest in an aging team.
Moyes would be reluctant to get involved with another board that would insist on controlling him.
Therein lies the real problem at Celtic. Peter Lawwell , John Park and probably one or two others are involved in a game of FIFA Football Manager, or whatever its called, picking the players, setting the wages, and more importantly, making decisions for the manager.
Deila is at fault here. You only get your own way in the first few weeks of any new job. He should have insisted on total control, including the appointment of his number two. By giving way on that point, he has become a coach, and not a manager. Perhaps that is the main reason why the players don’t appear to respect him.
Casting our minds back to when Martin O’ Neill was appointed, one of the first things he did was arrange for the players wives to sit together at the games. A small point, but one that showed the players that he had their best interests at heart, and would fight to get something done for them.
Footballers are simple creatures, and after that, O’Neill would have been able to ask for that little bit extra from them, and as history shows, he got it.
Celtic isn’t quite at the crossroads yet, but the time is approaching when a decision will have to be made to either back Deila, or sack him. If its the former, then the new man must insist on complete control of football matters, otherwise we’ll be in the same boat facing the same rough seas a few months down the line.
If we decide to stick with him, then lets remember he is paid to manage the team, and Lawwell, Park et al need to step aside and allow him to do that.
It would send out all the wrong messages if Deila was to be sacked without ever being allowed to truly show us what he can do, no matter how that turns out. If he is to fail, then at least let him be the architect of his own failure.
Mind you, we could argue that his inability to stamp his authority over the board is his own fault, and a sign that he isn’t up to the job in itself.
No hes is not paid to manage the team he is paid to coach the team, big big difference.
Howz About playing Tom Jones At HAlf Time at Parkhead
“Delilah” Just to gie Deila A clue
reading this diary used to be fun! Now you just sound like a overly negitive child.
So Lenny walked away, Roy Keane walked away, even MON walked away!
Ronnie stepped up.
What a bastard eh!
That just shows that Ronnie was willing to be dictated to where the others weren’t.
100% Spot Desi
Too many fannies not looking at the bigger picture here.
8 games into a 38 game season and we have clowns wanting him booted?
I have asked this question elsewhere …
Had Lenny still been manager this Season and the following set of Circumstances presented themselves what does anyone on here think would be the current state of play:
1 Forster Sold
2 Samaras let go
3 Lustig Mathews Fisher injured
4 Brown out for 2 months
5 Mulgrew out for 3 weeks
6 Bitton out for the start of the season
7 Izzy playing below par first month
8 Commons under par first month
9 Virgil average performances first 4 games
10 Griffiths under par
11 Stokes mis firing
12 No Denayer
13 No Forrest
14 Boerrigter injured
Anyone here seriously saying our Season would have beeen hunky dory up to this Point?
Aye right.
He’s got to be given a season to see what he can do, you canny sack managers every 2 months ffs.
Get a grip guys.
Exactly Bawsman 12 months to reshape,alter and improve.
Too many panic merchants for me.
I don’t even look at a League Table for 10 games..
And that’s with a settled side and Manager.
15 for a new boss for me that’s any Season we change Managers btw regardless of previous experience.
No takers?
Amazing…..
Charlie,
Way,way out of order.Calling your fellow fans fa…..and clowns.
We are all entitled to our opinions,the source of any good
debate.Every Celtic fan wants to see us playing well.However,the FEAR is Deila is taking us on the road to nowhere.Valid ? Yes.serious concerns.
I concede,interference from upstairs,must be a hinderance.
And it is early days.But,where are signs of progress ?
We have international players in almost every position,why is it going so badly wrong ?
If you lose the players,then the games a bogey for Deila.
Many managers/coaches are just not the right fit for a club.
Many short-lived in these jobs.Clough at Leeds, the most high profile.
Therefore,it’s good to talk,Charlie m8.
There are fannies in every support ,panic merchants who’s bottle goes after a run of poor results or games.
Always been the same.
Look at the state of Leeds hardly a great example you used there bud.
Teams that chop and change managers to often often pay the price.
The guy needs time some seem very reluctant to give him that time.
8 games jn is beyond a joke.
So back to the question posted above how would Lennon have coped with those set of Circumstances?
Charlie,
I deal with the here and now.Your point about Lenny is hypothetical and totally irrelevant.
As for Leeds,think BRIAN CLOUGH,lost dressing room.
Did you fall out with your Mrs. this morning ?
You seem to be on a very high horse,calm down to a panic.
I think your a fanny!
Deila is shit!
Charlie is right.
Yes Charlie is right.
Not only is Charlie right but this has been the road the Club has been on since they appointed Mowbray. We have taken inspiration from similarly large European Clubs about best practice. The only way to see if they’re successful is to give those structures a number of years then you weigh it up. Was it better this way or the way we did things from the past or is the answer let’s have a mix? We’ve got to see this through.
Great point Desi.
That’s an easy question to answer??, “SACK HIM” and that isn’t a knee-jerk reaction, from day one he’s talked the talk but failed miserably to walk the walk, his vision for how football should be played is a so unrealistic it’s scary, there’s about 4/5 teams in Europe who could play that vision and all of them are outside Scotland and have squads worth hundreds of millions, NOT CELTIC, if I could see and glimmer of progression in any department on the field then I might think differently. At the back we look vulnerable far to often and look ready to gift teams goals far to easy, we have CG to thank for saving even more embarrassing results, central midfield is being overrun, outpaced, outpassed, Johansson is a shadow of the player of last season, and that’s because Ronny thinks that your wide midfielders should be replaced with wingers, giving no help in central areas, up front, well we all know the problem there, 1 lone striker..SERIOUSLY RONNY!!!! is this your vision for winning, time to part company with Ronny and Co while there’s still time, HAIL HAIL
Excellent,honest diary.
I thought you might have included snippets,of Sutty’s piece,in the daily dump.I would urge the pro-Deila community,on here,
to read his piece on-line,as I did.
Sutty’s frank and forthright views on Deila,are from a man who knows the game,and more importantly,what it takes to be a
success at our club.
He is worried that Broony and Deila,are not on the same
wavelength.To have polar opposite views,on the gravity of the Accies result,Sutty maintains is not good for team morale,in
the dressing room.
Welll worth a read,like Ralph’s diary.
Suttons a clown.
The fact he writes for the Record should verify that for you.
Was just reading about Sutton’s long and successful managerial career to see where his words of wisdom come from..took me about 10 seconds.
RSR,
He knows the game,more than any fan on here does.He also
knows about unity in a dressing room.Tellingly, he is in contant,
with current Celtic players !!
Based on what the fact he had the ability to play it at a higher level?
Football is not brain surgery it’s fairly easy to work out what’s going on regardless of what level you play it at.
I see Deila taking over Lennons side..
Straight off the bat Forster is punted next Samaras goes out the door.
That’s 2 of our most signinficant players under Lenny in Europe gone.
Next the Captain is out for 2 months
As is Lustig and Mathews along with Fisher that’s the 3 RB’s Lenny used regularly out.
Mulgrew next he’s been out for 4 games,Bitton missed the beginning of the Season as Has Forrest and Boerrigter meaning absolutely no width.
Commons has under performed first 2 months
as Has Izzy and Ambrose.
Can any Celtic fan honestly say hand on heart Lenny would not have struggled with those sets of Circumstances?
Like fuck.
Deila needs time folks he needs time to get those that are out back fit and those that are new bedded in.
To be calling for his head right now after 8 League games is a complete joke as far as I am concerned.
Was he a clown,when he scored against the Huns ?
I think your a clown!
You are entitled to your opinion I have no qualms with that Monti.
Monti,
I take it you mean Charlie ?
Yes Holy sea, I meant Charlie!
Monti,
If you are not in the pro-Deila camp,Charlie treats your comments with disdain.So much for the Celtic Family !!
All families have problems or are you so deluded to think that out of 9m followers world wide everyone is just perfect?
8 games in and some are calling for the managers head?
Away and raffle yersel.
Go look at Liverpool in the EPL.
Then if you can be arsed go look at their Champions League Table.
Then see how many Liverpool fans are calling for Rodgers head.
Charlie,
Deluded ? Mmm
Yes,families listen to each other.Some resort to being crude,and
swear at each other.I was not brought up this way.
You have NO evidence,to substantiate your claim that Deila will be a success.
So we should have REAL concerns about Deila.
Have to say I’d be wary of taking what Sutton writes in the record with anything other than ” a pinch of salt”.
I’m afraid he’s” sold his soul to the devil”, and is all too willing to put his name to whatever THEY want ,usually with an anti-Celtic agenda.
Very rarely is he positive with regards to Celtic.
What is it about our ex-players when they start work for the MSM?
it is hunlike msm patter to talk about ronnie dees replacement while he is still in the job pull yer neck in ffs
Spot on.
Back him . . . he’s going to succeed.
And then you’ll be sorry!
Test – just wrote a long post and it’s not showing. But if I try to resubmit it says I’ve already submitted it???
Found it.
2nd attempt at posting….
More negative and paranoid ramblings today….it’s getting a bit tired now.
Why are you so against Lawwell and the Board being prudent? Why shouldn’t he drive a hard bargain when negotiating with a highly paid player like Commons? Especially a guy on the wrong side of 30 who will likely offer less on the field over his next contract as he has over his current contract. Maybe saving money on Commons’ contract can help sign a better player at the next transfer window. Roy Keane has a moan because Lawwell said to him “this is what’s on offer in your contract and it’s non negotiable” – what did he expect him to say? Here’s an offer but feel free to try and get loads more money out of us?!
You are starting to talk about “the hidden hand behind the scene” at Celtic….you sound like a Sevco fan! The approach of having a coach who just focuses on the 1st team and doesn’t get involved in player scouting and contract negotiations is common in Europe and that’s the model we’re trying to implement. The old school British style of the all powerful manager is almost completely dead….no big clubs go down that route any more. If Deila doesn’t get to pick the team or tactics or training methods then I’d be worried but there’s no suggestion that’s happening. Believe it or not, a lot of coaches are happy with that model….I remember Strachan insisting he only wanted to be a coach and didn’t want any role with player negotiations as it could affect his relationship with players.
Is it really that hard to accept that the Board & Lawwell are doing a decent job with limited resources in a very poor league. They have taken a risk on a new type of manager and that coach is trying to implement a whole new approach to the Club, he’s making some progress but it will take time for it all to click. The Board have taken a calculated risk because at this time in our history we can afford to take a risk, so it’s worth it for potentially long term game. There is no hidden hand, nobody is deviously and secretly trying to control Celtic while pulling the wool over the fans’ eyes and undermining Deila.
Deila isn’t a hopeless numpty that doesn’t have the first clue about football….he’s proven in a smaller league with a smaller team that he can be a very good coach and he’s getting the opportunity to do that at a bigger team. It’s definitely not been as smooth and easy as we’d have liked….but then again, anyone that thought it would be smooth and easy is kidding themselves on.
We’ve got a game in hand, we’re not that far behind in the league, it’s only early October…..calm down! There’s no need to push the panic button and bottle it. Give the guy a chance and give him the time to get it right.
Martin’s right, as usual. Keep up the common sense among the negativity elsewhere – negativity which helps only to satisfy egos and to destabilise the club
Tom Campbell,
Have you ever been sectioned?
Martin
You make some fair points but may i ask:
Was Roy Keane offered a coaching role or Managers role?
Are Dermot and Peter on the same page if Dermot is offering a role after afternoon tea only for Peter to lay down a load of restrictive clauses?
Why are we always told theres money there, but its never spent?
As all evidence given shows declines all round bar Peters salary and bonus ( deferred never rejected), its liek watching a politician in charge at our club, which is apt given recent Board members.
Im backing Ronnie but the clubs continous downsizing is creating its own danger with supporters dismayed and quality levels falling to a level where punters just wont stump up. Whats the end game for this strategy?
Regarding Deila as coach/manager ,the point is; Continental clubs are open about the fact they are operating a “Technical Director plus Head Coach” system.
We were sold Deila (and Lennon before him) as Manager .
If , as most now believe , we are working to the Continental system , then don’t we have a right to know WHO IS our technical Director?
i read Martins comments and was struck by the crazy reaction from the press many years ago when MON announced he would be working on a 1 year rolling contract.
“No faith shown in MON” was the media frenzy until they realized this was actually a sensible approach for all concerned and duly adopted by Rangers when McLeish joined up there.
People fear and dont understand change or new approaches. Thats why communication is so important. As Ralph always says, what exactly do the Celtic PR and Media team do to justify their salary and job titles? Im not blaming Ronnie for honestly answering a loaded question, i blame the underhand Scottish media and negligent Celtic media team for letting them away with such games
More sense yet again from Desi.
We are not going the full hog with the approach just taking the bits he feels will benefit our team in Europe in the long run.
The good teams press high and break quick.
I see no problem with Celtic taking this approach myself.
It will after all be a damn site easier on the eyes than the sided to side pish we witnessed many times under Lenny.
Incidentally we got humped in Europe last season.
We were already going backwards.
Deila is attempting to change that trend by bringing quicker players.
Up front he’s brought in 2 guys with height and presence one has hit the ground running the other needs a few more games.
Too many panicking far too soon.
Martin,
Take off your Lawwell tinted glasses.
Yes,he drove that hard a bargain,that WGS in January 2009,
didn’t get the striker,Fletcher,and we lost the league.Or the strikers Lenny was promised,and never got.
Yes,I am all for being prudent,being an accountant,myself.However,the budget has been their,to make
room for a few quality players.Money has been wasted,and a dereliction of duty,by both Lawwell and Park.
Great points well made Martin. I say fair play to Peter Lawwell for telling Keane what the score was (If indeed you can believe Keane’s version). Keane would hardly want to upset any fellow tims by having to say he turned it down flat now would he? No. ‘They didn’t tell me how much they wanted me’ GTF Keano. Plus anyone who thinks Steven Fletcher was the answer to our problems needs help. This is the time for the board to take risks yes. What is there to lose. Nothing. We’re already at the bottom of the football food chain.
Carl,
You need help.I was referring to JANUARY 2009.Strachan,a great Celtic Manager,
wanted Fletcher,by not getting him,purely down to Lawwell,who admitted as much,
this had a huge bearing,on us not winning 4 in a row,THEN !!
Please keep up.
You’ll notice I did use the past tense ‘was the answer’. Please read what is written before commenting on it. Regardless of the how’s and why’s I’m glad we never got the idiot Fletcher. Please keep up Holy.
You don’t make sense.
What ‘problems’ did we have in 2009 ??
We were top of the league by 7 points then ?
Strachan,a great Celtic Manager,wanted Fletcher.He knows more about the game than you.FACT.Lawwell ARSED that deal up.
Then ,Fletcher would have scored goals,and we would not have
lost the league.
Make your post MORE CLEARER,next time !!
Christ, Why didn’t you say. Oh now I understand. Fletcher came with a goals guarantee. Right. I will make my posts more clearer in the future. Thank you for your assistance.
I would replace the entire article with this myself.
Spot on Martin.
HH
Superb analysis. The discourse is sound. What Hamilton Accies have achieved over the past ten years with the resources and fanbase has been nothing short of incredible. We need to be run like that, we need that mindset. They beat us with eight players from their Academy and so did Maribor. Wakey fucking wakey!
YEAH let,s keep a manager that after we lose to Hamilton , says we are improving,we are getting worse every game,Time for a change and in the ownership and board as well
Trying to post it in 2 sections….
More negative and paranoid ramblings today….it’s getting a bit tired now.
Why are you so against Lawwell and the Board being prudent? Why shouldn’t he drive a hard bargain when negotiating with a highly paid player like Commons? Especially a guy on the wrong side of 30 who will likely offer less on the field over his next contract as he has over his current contract. Maybe saving money on Commons’ contract can help sign a better player at the next transfer window. Roy Keane has a moan because Lawwell said to him “this is what’s on offer in your contract and it’s non negotiable” – what did he expect him to say? Here’s an offer but feel free to try and get loads more money out of us?!
You are starting to talk about “the hidden hand behind the scene” at Celtic….you sound like a Sevco fan! The approach of having a coach who just focuses on the 1st team and doesn’t get involved in player scouting and contract negotiations is common in Europe and that’s the model we’re trying to implement. The old school British style of the all powerful manager is almost completely dead….no big clubs go down that route any more. If Deila doesn’t get to pick the team or tactics or training methods then I’d be worried but there’s no suggestion that’s happening. Believe it or not, a lot of coaches are happy with that model….I remember Strachan insisting he only wanted to be a coach and didn’t want any role with player negotiations as it could affect his relationship with players.
Your website is gubbed mate, just tried to post 3 different ways – each time it says it’s done it but then doesn’t appear.
Must be the unseen hand of etims blocking any critcism of the Diary
Martin, All
How many times does this need saying…
NOTHING GETS CENSORED BY FOLK IN ETIMS
The site uses a WordPress template which unfortunately has a fecked up filter process where random pieces ( usually the longer the more likely btw) from anyone including us staffers go missing. Usually we can find in the SPAM folder and re-instate but sometimes they just get dropped altogether.
If you look at the views in Diary comments you will see its the epitome of a mixed bag. We all have differing opinions, including staff members and readers but all with the same goal. The best for Celtic. if you feel thats backing Peter Lawwell or sacking the man who designed Lennoxtown, we applaud you telling everyone. We encourage and welcome all debate, all talk is good ( even deadhead makes sense now and again) that should be clear to everyone by now.
HH
Desi
Martin,
What was that you said about paranoid ramblings ? Mmm..
Sutton has baws – always has. Kens more about football than pretty much anyone on here. How do you deal with incompetancy ? More incompetancy you say ? Its a sin to ask for something better – like a competant manager. sutton was wrong about Wankaso playing on the right ? he was the only one who saw that ? Nope – whether it right or wrong to be critical, whether we need to have austerity at Celtic or not ?
The manager is feckin rotten.
BTW – Lawwell NEVER designed Lennoxtown. it was allready on the books with Brian Q – who was a Celtic man and didn’t treat the support like sh6te
I was just throwing up an example, i dont think peter is the doodling sort let alone architect of a “state of the art” training complex that doesnt even have a suitable indoor pitch.
Good set of posts today. Simple approach, having a manager with vision, ambition and one who is mature enough to make big decisions about how the football operation is run, needs to be in full control of the football operation. All of it like Ferguson at Man Utd.
Executives are paid to form a direction for the club, put in place the people and budget to make it happen and then keep out of the way barring poor results and other measures where they have to intervene.
Seems like our executives are micro managing and controlling too much and the current “manager” is no more than a fitness coach who thinks every team in the SPL is Barcelona and adopts the one lone striker approach. Combination of perfect storm seems to be forming – micro managing executives who are making the real decisions, a rookie coach who basically trains and picks a team and players who are probably well aware of who really makes decisions that affect them. MON left because they called time on his spending, Neil because he wanted to take the club to the next level but that implied spending, not to mention decisions about player deals being made elsewhere. The point is when you have football club executives managing and not acting like board level people problems with morale take hold. I think we are seeing it and poor RD is in a pretty tough situation.
The Board should act like the board – what is the vision for Celtic FC – world force or Scottish force with occasional win in Europe? I hope world force. So executives your job is to raise the money, attract the sponsors, give governance for the business, put in place the best match experience and infrastructure and to appoint a manager who can build the club into European powerhouse again. Oh and let the manager manage. Set a budget and get out of the way. If the manager is going to fail let the manager fail and don’t fail for the manager.
BroxburnBhoy,
Excellent post.
A rational voice of reason,without crude or swear words.
Hear hear. Hail hail.
The guy is a young coach with a new way of playing and a slightly different ethos and manifesto. He’s had a pool that’s been disturbed massively by injuries and he was too late in getting players in for a decent crack at europe in my opinion. Although I don’t hold him entirely responsible for that as Lawell knows the score, why the lethargy.. so it really is time to support him through this, watch the injuries subside, watch the team get stronger and the performances improve. Judge him when he’s perhaps had his best team out for a few matches on the bounce.
Mon the hoops
First of all, the comment about the unseen hand of etims was a joke referring to the comment in the original Diary about the unseen hand of Lawwell. Not a very funny joke I grant you, but a joke none the less. I wouldn’t bother reading or posting on here if I genuinely thought you were censoring comments.
A good wee debate today but we seem to talking about loads of different things.
1) I stick by what I said and think Deila should be given time – I think too many people are having a panic too early.
2) Lawwell’s record is a totally different debate to Deila. Overall I think he’s done well under the circumstances but of course there will have been plenty of mistakes – who hasn’t made plenty of mistakes. But every time he is looking to sign a player or discuss a contract I want to know that he is pushing for the best deal for Celtic and not paying a penny more than we have to. Fergus McCann had the same attitude and was proved correct
3) I honestly couldn’t care less what Sutton is saying in the Daily Record. He’s not a proven manager and the Daily Record don’t pay people to say supportive things about Celtic. It surprises me Celtic fans still read the rag, never mind actuall care what’s said in it.
Martin
Duly noted, text doesnt convey tone very well at times and misread your gag
Ronny Deila is out of his depth, you guys who want to give him a season are mental!
Lawwell and Deila out!
Ok guys am going to make it plain and clear – RONNY HAS TO GO:
1. Cannot stop chopping and changing team yet sticks to same formation?
2. Plays players out of position when there is no need to thus not playing them to their strenghths
3. Talks about we had enough to beat Hamilton, maybe we had more possession and shots but they scored so that tells me we did not have enough to beat them as wait! THEY BEAT US
4. Plays only 2 in midfield usually Brown and Johansen as opposed to teams playing 3 which makes us short in that area (again see formation)
5. Results have been dismal and games we have won barring Dundee UTD game we have scraped the wins and even the draws
These are the main reasons why he HAS TO GO
Thank God,I am going to Still Game,at the Hydro,tonight.
A few of the regular posters on here, should try and take the show in,as it would bring much needed humour into their lives !!
Have a good night holy see!
Monti,
Cheers.Had a great night.The Glesga banter,you canny beat it.
That’s unless your Charlie Saiz,with his superior,hilarious posts on here !!
The club has been downsized, end of story. Everyone that knows anything about football the world over has copped on to this.
Correct it’s been happening since Martin O’Neils First Window.
£20m spent.
Since then the only players to come out of the Youth setup with any real buzz
Maloney McGeady Forrest
Nowhere near good enough IMO.
We should be targeting the very best youngsters in Scotland.
Fletcher Gauld McArthy Mackay Steven we missed them all why?
I’m not a Ronny man..or a Peter man….I’m a Celtic man.
And as such….answer this question honestly…
Has the Club progressed..stood still…or gone back the way in the last 6 years.?
IMO it’s gone back the way..and is still heading in that direction.
I don’t profess to know PL’s role in all this is…( not that it stop others who don’t know either telling you they do)and until I do…I’ll keep quiet on that.
There is no doubt,however, that through wonderful transfer dealings, we find ourselves in the black and so that’s great news…and if the Club has to be run prudently to survive..I can live with that.
What I can’t live with,however, is the lack of on field progress over this period…By now we should have a tried and tested system in place..using players of a decent quality.
What we have,however, is all change on the Western Front again, regarding systems…backed up by more crap signings who are nowhere near Celtic class.
Who picks and signs these people..??. But PLEASE..if you don’t know …don’t guess.
Anyway…bottom line is…We have gone nowhere worthwhile for a long time now..and that’s the big worry as far as I’m concerned.
Over to you Celtic…Get it sorted.
New Celtic manager announced to take over from Ronnie “I have a vision” Deila.The Irishman Plank O’Wood vows too “Stop the rot”.
Bonkers if you think Delia is the answer!
Jesus … some of the bottle merchants on here take the biscuit.
Give the guy a season .. getting on his back is not going to help him or the club at this stage.
Elsewhere I have stated I’m happy if wins the league, anything else is a bonus.
He buys and sells and improves the squad in January .. he must have some say in the players or kind of players he requires ..
Those players are gelled during the run in into what has already become a successful team and he improves them enough to get a crack at the group stages of the CL
If it things are really bad before next season .. then call for changes.
Hysteria and headless chickens help nobody in a crisis.
See, bhoys, we’ve been here before: Liam Brady, John Barnes, Tony Mowbray, Lou Macari. Why do any of you think Deila won’t be the same?
Bringing in new players?
We’re still paying for Lenny’s mistakes! Balde,Pukki, Rogic.
We’ve got: Wakaso, Tonev, Boerigte, Scepovich. Wow!
Right now, our team is good enough for the SPL and can be good enough for the Europa League. We don’t need to go phishing for any new players— just work with what we have.
We MUST win the League to get to Europe next year.
If the above Tom Campbell is our writer Tom Campbell, he knows more about Celtic than anybody on this forum. TC, I trust your word on Deila but the Norwegian is making me very nervous. He talks too much for a start, about trebles and such like.
Hysterical? Headless chicken? No, just bad memories of Mowbray, Barnes, Liam Brady, Lou Macari, Joe Venglos etc.
What crystal ball do youse have that I don’t that says a loss up in Dingwall isn’t one loss too many?
I’ll be the first to eat humble pie if and when but I may also be handing out a big dollop of “I told you so.”
Time will tell, maybe a fortnight will reveal all?
And this is pretty much the same team that lost only one game last season, with a record number of clean sheets and lots of goals.
CELTIC are the biggest, richest club in Scotland by a country mile, biggest spending budget, highest wage bill,with state of the art training facilities, top dieticians, top medical team, top sports analysts ect, ect, we could say we’re the Manchester City of Scottish football the gulf is that big, no disrespect to any other Scottish teams ( Except Sevco), so transitional period or not we should still completely dominate Scottish football, yes there is no God given right to win every game 3-0 but to be putting in the performances we have and dropped the points we have in the manner we have is NEVER EVER going to be acceptable, it’s a 1 horse race for God’s sake, when do all the Ronny supporters decide he’s not the man, February, April, when we mathematically can’t win the league, make no mistake about it, if CELTIC don’t win the league and by a relatively ezy margin it will go down in CELTIC history as one of if not the biggest footballing disasters ever, and we will be ridiculed about it for a generation.. HAIL HAIL, KTF