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Celtic Diary Thursday November 10: We Can See Clearly Now

In perhaps the least exciting game of the Angera, one that had an end of term feel about it, Celtic beat Motherwell 2-1 to keep themselves seven points clear at the top of the league.

 

The game would more or less have passed without comment had it not been for the intervention of VAR, where we may well have seen the first instance of the official in the room protecting the official on the pitch.

 

After some delightful work from Kyogo Fuhruhashi, who was everywhere last night, in his own half, a defence splitting pass found Jota sprinting past a defender to earn a one on one with the keeper, which he finished with what may yet become his trademark chip.

 

The linesman, horrified that he might score, flagged for offside. At best it was debatable, but that’s why we have VAR, right ?

 

The goal was declared null and void, and the accompanying evidence, well, let’s face it, wouldn’t have stood up in court…

 

 

In fact, based on  this, it wouldn’t have even got to court.

 

 

Ange Postecoglou on Jota's disallowed Celtic goal against Motherwell after  tight VAR offside call - Football Scotland

 

 

Curiously, there’s a camera on the half way line, and one on the eighteen yard line, both of which would have given a better idea of whether or not the decision was correct.

 

 

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Yet   the refs in the room used, presumably because it was the most conclusive.

 

And backed their pal on the line.

 

One can only wonder what the one on the eighteen yard line showed….

 

 

What the big picture shows, or at least appears to show, is that Celtic are not even getting the benefit of the doubt in these decisions, and there is most certainly a narrative beginning to appear.

 

 

Yet another dangerous tackle on a Celtic player that could have led to serious injury goes without just punishment, and that surely is the least we could expect from VAR…player protection…..implies an agenda….and that agenda is just that the officials will carry on as they always have with the authority of video technology excusing their mistakes and, er, preferences….

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think we are beginning toi understand the point of it all.

 

It’s going to cost us at least one Cup.

 

After all, they’ve done that before without VAR…..

 

 

Now they can claim legitimacy.

 

 

Over at Ibrox, there was a handball incident similar to the Berbebei penalty, which, noit surprisingly, never even got reviewed….

 

 

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Then again, as the Ibrox accounts showed yesterday, they need the money, as despite a massive leap in revenue, they still can’t seem to make a profit that puts them even in the comfortable zone.

 

 

There are many better placed to analyse those figures than I, but they don;t look good, despite what the media, and other assorted “experts ” are telling us.

 

Well, it;s not so much us they are telling, as the hordes of darkness, who need some sort of reassuring as their season begins to crumble.

 

 

Kieran Maguire
@KieranMaguire
Rangers announce 2021/22 accounts, highlights & comparison to Celtic Income record £88m Wages record £55m Day to day losses £10m Player sale profits £11m Player purchases £8m Player sales £14m Gerrard compensation from Villa £4.25m Sports Direct settlement £6m 
 All sounds tickety boo, but it’s hardly a forensic analysis, and the reference to Celtic implies that for his readers that is all that matters, not that niggly details stuff that shows quite clearly they’re still waist deep in a big pile of doggy doo.
 As far as i can see what little profit they appear to have made would be best invested in a paddle or two for the maritime vessel they are trying to navigate through a certain creek…..
There are interesting times ahead, and it will be worth looking at what happens at Ibrox during the month long shutdown where they  will take a hit on cashflow.
 Maybe turning down that jaunt to Australia was an example of not only shooting themselves in the foot, but taking half their leg off as well.
 They’d better hope Linfield fancy a trip to Glasgow……
On Tuesday, there was this….
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 Today….
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DannyBhoy
1 year ago

VAR training camp empties out in time for the Lodge meeting

Drew67
1 year ago

Well done Celtic..GIRU the bstrds trying everything to stop us.great goals again.well done Maeda..great finish.unlucky Jota great goal shockingly chopped off

Boyceybhoy
1 year ago

New Lodge members, enjoy their first parade.

greenmaestro
1 year ago

Apparently it’s a minimum of 6 cameras at a game for VAR. that gives them 6 chances to find an angle that shows the infringement against Celtic. That’s why it takes so long.

Last night’s decision against Jota will be straight into the SFA refs VAR training manual. “It’s worth checking all the camera feeds, even the one pointing at the pia stall, just to make sure you get the right decision <followed by a wink, or the sacrifice of a goat>”

Andybhoy67
1 year ago

Caption: Ryan Kent celebrates his MOTM against Hearts with a visit to the Cathouse

PFL
1 year ago

The Larkhall Referees Association prepare for their Wickerman festivities.

Borncelt
1 year ago

Caption – As the new queen visits Glasga’ and makes a visit to oversee the SFA and ask the question why canna’ eleven players, the 12th man the blue-nosed ref and now the 13th man, VAR, stop the Green Brigade, the new queen is advised to cover up as egg sales have tripled.

John E Mitchell
1 year ago

Donning a raincoat, defecting to the USSR and blending with the crowd was Billy Goat’s last throw of the dice in gaining some respite from the ‘attentions’ of Kilwinning Lodge#0

Binkabhoy
1 year ago

Caption: “Job done” said John “now it’s off to the crown bar for some free drinks then some fun down the lodge”

Woof Charlie
1 year ago

The VAR officials can also use TV broadcast images. I saw a screenshot of a TV on Twitter that was almost level and Jota was onside as clear as day.

Woof Charlie
1 year ago

Caption: After an disastrous attempt to feed a wolf a lamb chop held in his teeth One Hand McTavish is forced to wear a mask in public.

Woof Charlie
1 year ago
Reply to  Woof Charlie

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Hoop hoop hooray
1 year ago

Ralston goal v hearts
Abada goal v hearts (no lines shown)
Forrest non penalty v hearts
Bernabei penalty v dundee united
blarant non red on GG vs dundee utd
Jota goal v motherwell (no lines shown)
Blatant non red card on starfeld v motherwell

Thats 7 absolute game changing decisions that have all gone against us. I would argue all were incorrect.

VAR is 2 weeks old.

For us to have energed with max points is tremendous and the biggest GIRFUY to the corrupt officials who dont even try and hide it. Its gonna be a long season and i just hope we dont weary battling 6 officials every game.

Drew67
1 year ago

Agree with that 100%.Its just blatant now
This cheating will drive the team and support on.

TicToc
1 year ago

Great comment with terrific examples of exactly why our PLC Board needs to speak up. They could easily compile proof-positive replays of hun cheating in Scotland and we must find a way to force them to.
VAR! Videos Assisting *Rangers (the 2nd)?
All opposition players will be aiming any headers in our box straight at the arms of our players to gain ‘definite’ penalties. Look at Bernabei’s with arms in a natural position, one slightly behind him if memory serves me well. An absolute disgrace. The rule is to do with ‘playing’ the ball with hand/arm not having it hit you. Come on PLC Board, show that Lawwell (and Bankier soon) leaving will herald a new approach or stop pretending to be Celtic FC supporters.

Conspiracy head
1 year ago

The idiot ho thinks we are all stupid needs to be identified So what ever clown making the final call should show his face and must were his Coco clown outfit * *

Michael Annis
1 year ago

Sad to say but all our evidence and moaning is just hot air and will change nothing till our Board starts complaining and get the lawyers involved. This is corruption and other clubs should be speaking out, officially.

BJF
1 year ago

Still have a black bar running down ‘comments’ and lots of bars running across obliterating the comments on the iPhone not on my computer though. .

Funkyy
1 year ago

As someone posted on here not too long ago, the thing that frightens the dark hordes most is
Celtic hitting 56 titles and robbing them of their “world’s most successful team” claim. and so the brotherhood are redoubling their efforts to stop that from occurring. Their media pals do their bit as well, trying to unsettle players by saying that this one and that one is being “tracked” by EPL clubs or other rich European clubs. The Celtic board is spineless, they can’t claim that they don’t see this corruption as well.
As for Souness’s recent suggestion of a shared stadium..GTF bawbag, with your recent statement that *rangers is a Protestant institution”.
Celtic is an open to all institution so why does he think we would even consider being even more linked to the *rangers.
They’re always trying to hang onto our coat tails and the media try to sell us like a duo every time possible EPL membership is mentioned, ‘cos it would break them if Celtic ever did join the EPL and leave them far behind.

desdamoaner
1 year ago

fuck off ya nannygoat

Funkyy
1 year ago

I see Celtic have asked the SFA for answers regarding the sh1te quality
VAR image used to justify Jota allegedly being offside.
I hope the question put by Celtic was “What the fek are you c*nts trying to pull?”
This has to be met head on, the time for pussy-footing around the real issue has long
passed. If it was only happening once in a “blue” moon that would be one thing, but it’s getting
to the stage where “hand ball” by one team is a penalty and a very similar hand ball by another team
is not a penalty…in other words rules for one team and no rules for the other team.
The fat man’s boot connects with an opposition player’s boot and he goes down writhing like he’s on fire…..Livi player sent off. Murderwell player launches himself through the legs of a Celtic player and no red card.
Time for the board to grow balls and ask UEFA observers to watch what’s going on.

The Cha
1 year ago

Camera missed Jota ‘goal’ but player offside – SFA

bbc.co .uk/sport/football/63596135 (remove space)

The technology, apparently, proved that Jota was offside when he RECEIVED the ball 😉

Apparently, the in-line camera was filming the dugout area and not focussed on the pitch (trying to catch Ange doing something naughty?)

The Motherwell CEO has stated that there are VAR cameras in the TV gantry at the halfway line, which would have almost been in-line but they chose to use one 50-60 yards behind play.

The SFA have blamed the broadcaster (QTV) for the out-of-action camera but did the VAR ask this to be corrected as presumably it didn’t just happen immediately before this?

Celtic have received (but not published) a reply to our letter but likely to be along lines of above nonsense, so what now, do we simply let it lie, as we did numerous times under Lawwell or have we grown a pair?

Yoker Bhoy
1 year ago

The VAR thing has only been around for a few weeks and is already starting to severely grate on our nerves. A lot of situations arise, some of which are 50/50 things while others are a bit on the shady side although the resulting ‘mistake’ could be forgiven. There are indeed other cases such as our penalty claim at Tynecastle and Jota’s goal the other night which leave only one point open to debate – whether we have witnessed unbelievably shoddy amateurism or simply blatant cheating (I would vouch for the latter). Either way though, whether its down to gross incompetence or downright dishonesty, a quality control system should be installed whereby those responsible for totally surreal VAR decisions (referee, VAR panel and technical staff) should be held accountable for professional negligence and be placed under a reasonable and fair disciplinary code, just like any other worker really. An independent and totally impartial supervisory panel of judges, comprising 3 football specialists (for instance ex-referees from England and Wales that have absolutely no allegiance to any Scottish football club whatsoever) should be brought in to scrutinise all of the dubious VAR decisions after every match day. When farcical decisions such as the two examples mentioned above are evident, those responsible should be issued with a first formal warning followed by a second and final one, with a third clanger resulting in them being dispensed from their duties – “Thank you for your participation, all the best for the future but don’t call us, we’ll call you”. The SFA would have none of this of course unless there were to be a complete shake up on VAR rules right across the board at international level.

Yoker Bhoy
1 year ago

VAR will be very much under the magnifying glass as we face Ross County today but, as Ange correctly states, it’s a great pity that it should come to this. County have started to get their act together and should provide a tough enough test but I can see them crumbling when subjected to constant pressure. Should be a good opportunity to give starts to the likes of Starfelt, Bernabei and Giakoumakis and maybe the lads will go up a couple of gears and put on a real show for us in this last game before the long break. I reckon we’ll win 4-0 or 4-1.

TicToc
1 year ago

New huns 1-1, there’s something about them ‘Saints’ lately!
I’m still not ‘buying’ religion though! 🙂
COME ON YOU BHOYS IN GREEN!

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Funkyy
1 year ago
Reply to  TicToc

Depite a TAV penalty 6 mins from the end to try and bail them out.
Meanwhile “We never stop” can have added for the referee association “And they’ll never stop us”.
The absolutely shocking Mason in black today was a clear example of the bias, corruption and incompetence that permeates our football hierarchy.
Well done today Celtic.

TicToc
1 year ago
Reply to  Funkyy

Funkyy, I like that. A ‘front of the bus’ response to that shower.
Aye, “And they’ll never stop us” indeed!
It’s a bit like “we wont be mastered by no orange b……”
HH

TicToc
1 year ago
Reply to  TicToc

Well, I’ve seen bad reffing all my life but Munro? FFS, clearly another hun but a top-class performing, cheating clown into the bargain. I wanted 6 pts from our last 2 games and we’ve got them. Ange just manages, sometimes against all odds, to get us a result and for that I’m truly grateful. On the other hand, the Board? Well “plus ca change” is not going to be tolerated anymore. When I get a ‘flea in my ear’ I’m one difficult individual and I feel an itch in that area.
Lawwell’s gone (and he better stay gone) and Bankier is going. There’s a once-in-a-lifetime chance to enact real and permanent change at Board level, for the better of course, could hardly be worse. Anyway, Ange strikes me as a true Tim-typa guy and only the Board can unsettle him. THEY HAD BETTER NOT.
Brilliant to stuff it to every orange baztard in Scotland and further afield today with some great football and 2 excellent goals. Hatate’s work before Turnbull’s great finish was quite a goal but Haksa’s was exquisite. I kept replaying it in my mind for the rest of the game and still couldn’t believe he’d done that magic before netting from an ‘impossible’ position. WOW, just WOW Celtic. We NEVER stop you know 🙂 Now let’s all enjoy a month’s rest before we go again.
Hail! Hail! The Glasgow Celtic.

TicToc
1 year ago

Henke, a shout out for some advice.
My nephew is moving to your general area shortly, to Ayr itself.
I’ve already advised him to treat “the honest men” as dubious at best and also to keep his Celtic heart to himself until he gets to know the area.
Any things I might add for him?
Cheers.

Bgbhoy
1 year ago
Reply to  TicToc

The market inn is the only safe bar in town

Bgbhoy
1 year ago
Reply to  TicToc

P.s. henke is past it. Best talking to the better footballer of the family

henkesdreadlocks
1 year ago
Reply to  Bgbhoy

In your dreams numbnuts.

henkesdreadlocks
1 year ago
Reply to  TicToc

Ayr has its usual array of hun roasters and a lot of them come from the banjo playing villages outwith the town. Fairly large numbers of Tims nowadays in the Auld town and 3 or 4 buses now running to home games. The Michael Davitt being the preeminent club. We also have the Ayr Bhoys Ultras just for shits and giggles.

TicToc
1 year ago

Henke/BGBhoy, thanks for your replies. I’ll pass this on.
I’ve been kinda ‘out of it’ since post match on Saturday…..that moron Munro (nearly an anagram of moron!) was bad enough but the VAR on top since introduced leaves me, er, distressed and emotionally tired……..
Thanks again lads, HH.

Woof Charlie
1 year ago

The minutes silence. If I was from Derry, Belfast I get your beef. But I’m Scottish with grandfathers in both wars (Irish one deserted in 1916). My view is you’re booing my family. And with this antifa stuff that the Celtic young team seem to be keen on. There’s nothing more anti-fascist than spending your best years from 39 to 44 in a tank watching your mates all die fighting Nazis. So is it beyond you to shut the f*ck up for a minute? I hear so much Brother Walfred stuff. Where’s the respect he would have had? Where’s the bridge building that’s so much needed in the north of Ireland amongst different communities that need to move on from their past?

Drew67
1 year ago

Lovin Haksabanovic..great touch and very clever..hes gonna be a Hunskelper

highseastim
1 year ago
Reply to  Drew67

Just walked past Guidis in Lossiemouth, Souness and his hangers on, sitting outside in the sun, debating the woes at Newco, a severe lack of poppies on show. No words, just a wee smile as I walked past wi& the dog wearing my Celtic toorie!!

Drew67
1 year ago
Reply to  highseastim

No often he keeps his gob shut.got plenty to say about Celtic nothing about his EBT and the money he spent buying players from Rangers after he left.
Hail Hail mate

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