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Celtic Diary Monday May 4: Whose Fault Is It Anyway ?

Older readers may remember a newsreader, during the nineties, reading out the Celtic score one evening..

 

Celtic 0, and they must be getting used to it by now, Hibernian 1

 

At least, I think that was the score. I’d started swearing at him before he got to the Hibernian bit. Actually, it might not even have been Hibs’s turn to beat Celtic that day, but you get the point.

 

Another half arsed and predictable performance against “rangers ” saw Celtic escape from Ibrox with a 3-1 defeat at the weekend.

 

And I think there is a real danger that we are getting used to it by now. Not just the fans, but everyone connected with the club.

 

 

Mind you, the board are starting to fight back. They’ve banned Andy Walker.

 

The Sky Sports presenter, who often expresses opinions that maybe wind Celtic fans up a wee bit, has been told to stay away , with the Sun claiming its because he criticised the piss up in Dubai which led to players and management getting pissed and making arses of themselves.

 

Except for the non drinking French players, who caught Covid instead at a nightclub.

 

So we heard, anyway.

 

Incidentally, Walker is also banned from Ibrox after he criticised their unique financial arrangements, drawing attention to their habit of trading whilst insolvent.

 

It seems strange that of all the pain in the arse pundits out there, Walker is the one to be made an example of.

 

Or is it yet another Old firm venture ?

 

There’s talk of an invite winging its way toward Celtic and “rangers ” to join the English Premier League, a long held fantasy of the Celtic board, which has even been backed by Westminster, and despite the excitement caused by this possibility, surely its obvious this is just a ploy by unionist politicians to try to win a few votes from football fans by telling them what they think they want to hear ?

 

Of course, further down the line we’ll be told the police won’t have it, English clubs won’t have it and the two glasgow clubs will be painted in the same way the English clubs were who wanted to join the European super league, but by then the elections will be over.

 

There’s something more than a little hypocritical about wanting to join a British league for the money whilst condemning UEFA for making the UCL a virtual closed shop to prevent a real closed shop setting up…

 

The Scottish media, especially the BBC,  will push the idea, as it helps the stricken club/company at Ibrox to avoid a financial meltdown, though it is quite amusing, and nauseating at the same time, to hear some of the praise given to the new world beating side put together on the other side of the river.

 

Liam MacLeod, who commentated on sundays game for Radio Scotland, was lucky to remian heard throughout a match that he seemed to spend a large portion of embedded squarely between the cheeks of Alan MacGregors arse, whilst his co commentator Stuart McCall , less fulsomely, granted, praised the new champions far beyond the reality of what has been a decent season for them, but simply would not have turned out the way it did if Celtic had at least looked interested.

 

 

Something went badly wrong at Celtic, and it’s worth maybe pausing a while to consider where the blame lies.

 

Not so much so we can point the finger, as we’d need an awful lot of fingers, but so we can avoid making the same mistakes again, and maybe even turn a negative into a positive.

 

We missed an opportunity in 2012 to clean up the game , and move Celtic forward as a club, which could well have dragged other clubs along in our slipstream, and its crucial that we don’t miss another one now.

 

Two things have to change, and it has to be real change.

 

Celtic have to change, and when that happens, Scottish football, and those who govern it, will be forced to change as well.

 

Dominic Mackay changed Scottish football, has he been hired to change football as well ?

 

Have Celtic finally woken up to the fact that someone, somewhere, is taking the piss out of us ?

 

You’d like to think so, but so far all we’ve seen is Andy Walker being told he’s got a few more weekends off…

 

 

Celtic is broadly made up of two parts.

 

The business, looked after by the board, and the football team, looked after by the manager. In an ideal world, both parts work together for the good of the whole.

 

At Celtic , that hasn’t happened. Not for a long time, and we’ve seen a collapse this season that is the end result of what has been a decade or so, at least , of wanton neglect.

 

Without googling, can you name the present board ?

 

It’s this lot…

 

Celtic PLC

The current directors of Celtic PLC are:

  • Ian Bankier Chairman ( Since 2011)
  • Peter Lawwell, Chief Executive (since 2003)
  • Chris McKay, Finance Director (Since 2016)
  • Tom E. Allison, Senior Independent Director (since 2001)
  • Sharon Brown, Independent Non-Executive Director ( since 2016)
  • Dermot Desmond, Independent Non-Executive Director (since 1995)
  • Brian Wilson, Independent Non-Executive Director (since 2005).   

 

Below that there are two more boards….

 

The Celtic Football and Athletic Company Ltd

The Celtic Football and Athletic Company is a wholly owned subsidiary of Celtic PLC, and provides football club management and promotional activities. The directors are:

Celtic F.C.Ltd

 
  • Michael Nicholson (Company Sec)
  • Peter Lawwell(Chief Executive)
  • Chris McKay (Finance Director)

 

 

Looking at the PLC board… from Wallmine, and leaving out Lawwell, who has gone now…so they tell us anyway, and Desmond, who is hardly ever there…

 

Ian Patrick Bankier is Independent Non-Executive Chairman of the Board of Celtic plc. He was appointed to the Board as an independent non-executive director on 3 June 2011 and became Chairman on 14 October 2011. Mr Bankier is Executive Chairman of Glenkeir Whiskies Limited, a company he substantially owns. Glenkeir operates The Whisky Shop chain, which is the UK’s largest specialist retailer of whiskies. He has been involved in the Scotch whisky industry for over 20 years having been Managing Director of Burn Stewart Distillers PLC and Chief Executive of CL World Brands Limited. Mr Bankier’s formative career was as a solicitor and he was a partner of McGrigors for 15 years, where he specialised in corporate law. Mr Bankier is a member of the Remuneration Committee and chairs the Nomination Committee.

 

Christopher McKay has been appointed as Financial Director, Director of the Company, with effect from 1 January 2016. He has spent the previous 18 years in professional services and left a senior position with global consultancy firm Deloitte to join the Company. He qualified as a Chartered Accountant with Deloitte in 2000 and has spent the last 15 years within the Financial Advisory area. He has extensive advisory experience in many industries across the UK and International Markets. 

 

Thomas E. Allison is Senior Independent Non-Executive Director of Celtic PLC. He has been a non-executive Director since September 2001. He is Chairman of the Remuneration Committee and a member of the Nomination Committee. Mr Allison is the nominated Senior Independent Director. He is Chairman of Peel Ports Limited and a director of a number of other companies within the Peel Ports Group. He is Chairman of Tulloch Homes Group Limited, a non-executive director of Sunseeker Yacht Group Limited and Pinewood Shepperton plc, an ambassador for The Prince and Princess of Wales Hospice in Glasgow and a member of the Council of CBI Scotland.  

 

Sharon Brown was a little harder to summarise, but her Linked In profile is out there…

 

  • Non Executive Director and Audit Committee Chairman

    Celtic Football Club

     – Present4 years 6 months

    Glasgow, United Kingdom

  • Non Executive Director and Audit Committee Chairman

    JUPITER EUROPEAN OPPORTUNITIES TRUST PLC

     – Present1 year 10 months

    London, United Kingdom

  • Non Executive Director and Audit Committee Chairman

    BMO Capital & Income Plc

     – Present7 years 9 months

    London, United Kingdom

  • Non Executive Director and Audit Committee Chairman

    Baillie Gifford Japan Trust plc

     – Present2 years

  • Non Executive Director and Audit Committee Chairman

    McColls Retail Group plc

     – Present7 years 4 months

    London, United Kingdom 

     

 

Staying with Linked In for Brian Wilson….not the Beach boys fellow, the one we’re stuck with…

 

Brian Wilson lives on the Isle of Lewis in the Outer Hebrides of Scotland where he chairs Harris Tweed Hebrides which, along with chief executive Ian Angus Mackenzie and principal investor Ian Taylor, he co-founded in 2007. The company is credited with having revived the fortunes of the industry and gives work to more than 200 people on the island. Brian is a former Labour MP and, under Tony Blair, held five Ministerial posts including UK Trade Minister and UK Energy Minister. He has continued to be involved in trade promotion as a Special Representative of the Prime Minister, UK Business Ambassador and currently Adviser to the UK Board of Trade. Since leaving politics in 2005, he has been a director of Celtic Football Club (of which he wrote the official history) as well as holding several positions in the energy sector. In 2012, Brian was named UK Global Director of the Year by the Institute of Directors. A journalist by trade,and founding editor of the West Highland Free Press, he currently contributes to The Scotsman, Guardian. P&J Energy and other publications.   

 

 

 

The point ?

 

 

You’d have thought, Chris McKay apart, that with all their other jobs these people wouldn’t have had the time to completely fuck up a football club… 

 

 

 But they did.   

 

 

Real change , lasting and productive change, has to start here.

 

No one should be involved in running Celtic as a part time position.

 

If they are not fully committed to the club, in the same way that we are, emotionally that is, they there is no place for them at the club.

 

And spare me the idea of getting the best in the business, because the current incumbents have overseen a collapse that were it in their own professions, would have probably crashed the stock market.

 

One of the criticisms of modern football is that it has become a vehicle for those who see it as a money making, and indeed laundering in some extreme cases.

 

This weekend , Manchester United fans took to the pitch and forced a postponement of their game against Liverpool in protest at their owners using their club as such a money making operation.

 

It’s as though they just realised it….and boy will they be annoyed when it turns out Santa Claus isn’t real either.

 

I’m not saying we should do the same, far from it, we’d probably get hit over the head with a stick and wake up in the dressing room ready to play in defence, but we certainly need to let them know that Celtic is not a money making vehicle,,,it’s not theirs to play with.

 

It belongs to us, as it belonged to our fathers, and their fathers before them.

 

We were and would like to remain different, and I’d like to think that our identity comes before profit, and that identity comes from the diversity and consistency of our support.

 

The first step to real change is to change not only the board, but the way the board thinks. The way the club is run.

 

Tomorrow, we’ll look into the management side of things on the field, or, if you like, the mismanagement, and see if we can work out where that went wrong.

 

 

 

 

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Mike.
7 months ago

There’s a cauld wind a blowin skipper, look starboard side it’s a Minky whale (or Manky if it’s a Hun whale), why is that important? it’s because you can make glue from it’s blubber. Blubber? a picture of Gringo emerges, he’s been a sniffin the Evo – Stik….

Mike.
7 months ago
Reply to  Mike.

3-1 ? He’s not the only one though…

Cortes
7 months ago
Reply to  Mike.

Plus it’s Tuesday, 4 May.

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  Cortes

Well spotted, Cortes.

Are you okay, Ralph?

You haven’t been letting strangers inject unknown substances into your body again, have you?

portpower
7 months ago
Reply to  G R I N G O

The tooth fairy ripped him off and shat in his router.

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  Mike.

I preferred this …

’Dominic Mackay changed Scottish football, has he been hired to change football as well ?’

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  Mike.

I’m really playing on your mind, eh, Micky?

Mike.
7 months ago
Reply to  G R I N G O

The Dom line was my favourite too, but the best one was that he had another one coming out the morra. BTW, you will need to find my mind before you can play with it, if you do find it, give me a shout, I’m missing it.

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  Mike.

I’m aware of that, mate.

It’s in my back pocket 😉

Mike.
7 months ago
Reply to  G R I N G O

Must be your hemorroid’s because my Mrs. found it in her underwear drawer.

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  Mike.

That’s odd,, I retrieved it from the Lost & Found at the jaggy clinic.

Poetry intact.

Mike.
7 months ago
Reply to  G R I N G O

Odd? you say, that’s odd, because I thought it was odd too.

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  Mike.

It is odd.

It’s your mind.

In my back pocket.

BJF
7 months ago

I can say without fear of contradiction I have been wrong about everything else about Celtic this season but that won’t stop me. The Board, didn’t prevent us winning 9 in a row and a quadruple treble. Neil Lennon, imagine if Slippy had won half the trophies as manager Lenny did. The squad see Board above.
I have never read any worthwhile analysis of what really went wrong this season. Lenny lost the dressing room, Eddy, Christie, didnt try a leg, we lost Julien and Forrest at a critical tune (true) and Barkas and Ajheti were poor buys, Klimala too. Second Rangers were a bit better ( also true).
A 9 IAR team should not have lost to Killie, Ross County, going to Dubai worked previously and was approved but not doing the basics to avoid the infection was poor decision making. However there must be more to it.

Iancelt67
7 months ago
Reply to  BJF

Eddie tried like fuck on the weekend and ran himself into exhaustion. Ajer shat out of a block for one of their goals but made some brilliant runs almost resulting in one of the goals of the season. I think both players suffered from out of form McGregor and Christie and the like. Not once did we dominate any of the games this season. That was due to bad coaching and a lack of confidence. We saw Lenny lately taking it hard on himself in a drunken stupor brought on I’d wager through letting himself into a powerless situation with no say in signing choices. There are too many up top with too much to say, albeit with the lack of knowledge to do so. Rangers with less buying power chose right with signings because they have a better football brains trust than we have. Big physical journeyman
Who could play a little. They formed a team
Ajeti may be equal to the likes of roofe but no better the rest of the signings were about Motherwell standard so it looks to me it’s a collective fuck up with a strong guy like Lenny hamstrung by limited power. No manager should go into a job without his own team. I don’t know why Kennedy kept his position. Knowing Celtic he is on low wages

Iancelt67
7 months ago
Reply to  BJF

Awaiting approval I feel like im applying for a dating site with a photo 20 years old

TicToc
7 months ago
Reply to  Iancelt67

I empathise Lance…..it’s fukking pathetic, I’ve just had YET ANOTHER one.

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  TicToc

Lance! 😀

Andy
7 months ago
Reply to  BJF

I have posted on here more than once that the well publicised incidents at the start of the season set the tone. Clearly more than one thing has gone badly wrong in the catastrophic season we have had but our PUB team like performances all season on the pitch must emanate from problems in the dressing room.

We were poor since day 1 but the Bolingoli affair in my opinion, created a split in the dressing room with some slaughtering him and others (perhaps the french speaking contingent) ?? having sympathy with him. Prior to that we had the Leigh Griffiths fitness shambles and I’ve also heard rumours about an incident between Karamoko Dembele and a senior member of the playing squad which if true, would not have helped either.

It was interesting, but not surprising to read the comments of the young USA player Cameron Harper who transferred back to the States a month or so ago. He confirmed there were cliques in the dressing room and that not all players were pulling in the same direction.

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  Andy

The 5WA killed Celtic to save Sevco.

Part of the Agreement is that Sevco cannot be punished for anything they do.

Not even kicking players in the face on the pitch, attacking them en masse in the tunnel then squealing little biatches about racism when their very identity is built on the hatred of the Irish race.

Sevco are untouchable.

And Celtic made it so.

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  BJF

BJF, it was all art of the 5WA, Celtic get anither 9IAR and the Quadruole Treble in return for backing Sevco keep Rangers’ old trophies.

And now it’s Sevco’s turn to take over the ascendancy.

It’s really quite simple and this info has been doing the rounds for years so I’m very surprised you missed it.

This is what happens when you invite Tory Freemason vampires into your house and foolishly trust them when they say they won’t bite you.

TicToc
7 months ago

I protest that I am not Chairman of the Board at Celtic PLC, (and hence influential with Celtic FC), as Bankier has no qualifications that even come close to mine. In the blurb about him : “He has been involved in the Scotch whisky industry for over 20 years……..” Well, I’ve been ‘involved’ in the Scotch Whisky industry for a helluva lot longer than that, leading to increased sales rervenue, and I’m a Tim (not a hun like him).
I PROTEST!

Charlie Green
7 months ago

The worrying thing is that apart from all these people you have identified and Lennon’s relatives, everyone else knew he couldn’t do it this season after the games against Sevco highlighted it. For the price of Barkas (£5,000,000) they could have hired a top class manager from anywhere in the world for a year and that is what it would have cost to win this league. I have been saying that since the start of the season. Rodgers is believed to be on £2,500,000 so they could have taken their pick. As it is, we are back to square one as all those trophies won, 11 out of 12, mean nothing now as the league win has consolidated Sevco as “Rangers” and their 55 league titles in the eyes of the media, not only in Scotland, but in the football world in general. That is the aforementioned names’ legacy. Was it deliberate in order to keep the “Old Firm” business identity?
Who the hell knows but it definitely seems like it.

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  Charlie Green

Of course it was!

The Old Firm copyright patent was all over the internet a while back, with both clubs as joint owners and a renewal of the patent that same week.

Look it up.

The Old Firm is the club.

Celtic & Rangers (sic) are just two halves of it.

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  G R I N G O

And Celtic ‘won‘ 12 out of 12.

Thats what a ‘Quadruple Treble’ is, a clean sweep.

But it was meaningless, even at the time, when you know it was all a sham to keep the fans in happy clapped mode while Sevco consolidated.

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  G R I N G O

*Clapper.

Though they were clapped like a dug.

Charlie Green
7 months ago
Reply to  G R I N G O

I stand corrected but just goes to show how quickly they have been forgotten!

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  Charlie Green

Yeah, you’re only as good as your last envelope.

And even that wasn’t enough to give Hazard a chance even though he delivered big time for Celtic that day.

Dombhoy
7 months ago

Seriously guys. Give up this pish that McKay somehow changed Scottish rugby. He really didn’t. Liked a few trips abroad in business class right enough so will fit right in.

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  Dombhoy

They’re clinging to the vain hope he’ll change it..

They know it’s over and want so much for ‘Dom’ to be the saviour.

But he isn’t, cant & won’t be.

He’s just another Desmond puppet.

The Cha
7 months ago
Reply to  Dombhoy

Even if he wanted to, he works for Desmond and so will do what the latter wants done.

Why anyone expects Desmond to do anything different from what he’s done this past quarter century is mystifying.

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  The Cha

Agreed, Cha, but it’s simple cognitive dissonance.

They want so much not to believe Desmond is the ruthless b@stard that he is for the sake of their emotional ties Celtic but it’s too late for that now.

These issues should have been dealt with when they were dazzling the support with the shiny shiny and the lie of being a ‘well run ‘club’ while ignoring and/or insulting those of us who could see the iceberg coming.

Still, it’s proven to a lot of people that the world isn’t run anything like they think it is and that kind of awareness can quickly develop into an agent of change for the better.

Can’t see DD budging though, not unless we starve him out.

All guys like him want is money and when there’s no envelopes coming in they just move onto something where more gullibles hand him more free money for nothing.

He’d have made a great Sevco chairman.

Abu O'Donnell
7 months ago

Many have speculated that Celtic kept the “Old Firm” alive as they want entry to the EPL or whatever. That dream(nightmare) is now back to the fore. The Celtic board have indeed “saved” sevco. Greed at the prospect of share prices rocketing look to have been driving force of retaining a hun presence. Nay, saving the “Old Firm” from oblivion.
This Celtic board have indeed been complicit in saving sevco. It can no longer be speculation. There will be many books written about how we saved the huns in future.

Mike.
7 months ago

It’s not too difficult to apportion blame though is it? Who is it that appointed the manager in the Hampden changing rooms? Who is it that has the last say on what players come in to play for Celtic and which ones even thought they got the grand tour of Lennoxtown were never given a contract. Professional? don’t make me laugh, dysfunctional more like. An accountant that has the last say on football contracts and who get’s them, is just a joke. Two Celtic board member’s who share a desire to keep a ‘basket of assets’ involved in Scottish football at the expense of football integrity, the assets which includes a poisonous support and a dishonest game. A board member and his associates who tells lies at a Celtic AGM, who puts others before his own supporters, a chairman whose company once sponsored the ‘basket of assets’, who raises his voice against his own so called clubs support. A board that is silent and will not stick up for it’s own support, is a board that does not represent me. Big change is necessary, the quicker the better. Dysfunctional, aye.

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  Mike.

Lawwell did it but Desmond agreed with it.

In fact, word is it was Desmond that called the ‘board meeting’ ya Hampden to appoint Lennon in the showers.

The ignominy of that statement proved just how clueless Lawwell really is.

It’s like Lennon only got the job once he’d gave the board a gammy.

Mike.
7 months ago
Reply to  G R I N G O

Nothing that lot did would suprise me. I LOL at McKay shadowing Lawwell, because he,
Lawwell has always walked in DDs shadow and that’s one shadow too many.

The CHA mentioned that the small shareholders were worth 25% – 26% of the total shareholding. The initial small shareholders was worth 63%. My point is this… if we could only reach out to them and get them onside, then that would be a force to reckon with.
I’m off to watch the BBC i player, two episodes off “The Killing”, see if I can pick up any tips…

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  Mike.

This shareholder nonsense will achieve nothing.

The only way to get rid of these Hun loving parasites is to starve them out, starting immediately.

Not a penny more, no matter who they finally get around to appointing as manager.

And the reason we haven’t seen McKay is because Peter has him locked in a basement Clockwork Orange style shoving electrodes containing old Celtic-Rangers games into his eyes followed by the words ‘CASH COW! CASH COW! CASH COW!’ on a repeated loop.

Next time we see ‘Dom’ he’ll be doing Peter Lawwell impressions.

But it ain’t no joke.

The Cha
7 months ago
Reply to  Mike.

I’m not sure its ever been as high as 63%.

The wee bunnet obviously had a majority and when he sold out Desmond picked up a lot of the slack, although he owns under 40%.

I think there’s been other ‘board friendly’ investors who between them have probably always owned a majority.

Mike.
7 months ago
Reply to  The Cha

It was reported that Fergus had 51% off the shareholding, he sold initially 19.8% off his shareholding to DD, City Institutions bought up 17% and 63% went to 5,300 small shareholder supporters. The shares as you know was sold for 250 pence each. Since then of course it’s a different scenario, the small shareholder supporters percentage has reduced again as you know to around 26%.

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  Mike.

And they’ll keep reducing it t9 the point where the small shareholders own so little as to be powerless.

Thast the Sevco MO right there so let’s not kid ourselves that Desmond is any kind of benefactor who has either our interest, or the club’s interests, at heart.

He just wants the money.

And this madcap ‘Buy Him Out’ idea floating around the CST is ludicrous as himself & Train can just keep upping their own bulk buys to dwarf the little guy and we’ll still be in the same situation 10 years down the line.

You want rid of a pest you starve it out.

It’s that easy.

Anything else is just posturing.

Cartvale88
7 months ago

The comments that seem to think it was this season are lost. The canker goes back over the years since 2012. A denial by the CEO and the board regarding the demise of RFC and the behaviour if the SFA/SPFL. Due to the smaller clubs and others such as Dundee United were Rangers papped out if the SPFL. As for the shambles that passes for a team lead by Lennon, forget 2020/21 and look at the shambles last season. No doubt punters will sing the praises of the quadruple, but the League Cup Final. The Wall won it, the Scottish Cup Final dire, the League a disaster and as for Europe, Cluj, Copenhagen etc; It us nothing to do with the current season it has been a long slow lingering car crash.
Players should have been shown the door, but the CEO was happy to pick up a wage and allow the meltdown.

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  Cartvale88

You’re missing the point, Duncan.

He’s talking about Celtic’s collapse, not Allan McGregor.

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  G R I N G O

The LCF proved how clueless a manager your hero Lennon was.

THAT is the only crack you’re papering over.

Yer @rsecrack aside.

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  G R I N G O

With no competition, as you’ve just written above.

It was ‘a canter’, you wrote.

I knew in his first game against 10 man Sevco he was clueless and only a last minute winner from Eddie pulled him out the hole.

Tactically and man for man HE DIDN’T KNOW WHAT HE WAS DOING.

And if you can’t see that you’d be better taking up golf.

Like Lenny himself.

G R I N G O
7 months ago

‘Celtic is not a money making vehicle,,,it’s not theirs to play with.’

Well, given that Desmond has overseen the disappearance of over one and a half billion quid in clandestine running costs alone during his tenure I’d say it’s been an incredibly profitable money making vehicle for King Moustache.

So much so that he won’t give it up without a fight to the death, as he made clear last month.

And to think all we have to do to get rid of him is stop giving him our money.

Some people really just cannot grasp the simplest of concepts.

They’d rather keep feeding the vampire on their back pursuing a dream that died 9 years prior than accept the truth that Celtic are now literally one & the same as Sevco, as evidenced by their predetermined designed ‘collapse’ this season to make sure Sevco got the CL pot to keep them alive.

Celtic are Sevco.

It’s the same team, The Old Firm.

The copyright patent for the brand was released in March with both parties joint owners.

So, in that sense, it IS The Same Club, for as long as Desmond’s moustache doth fly The Old Firm flag will be flying high over Celtic Park.

If he’s smart he’ll start selling Half n Half scarves.

Steve M
7 months ago

So many things went wrong at the weekend which were IMHO a reflection of the season as a whole – a helping hand from the official (that very soft sending off early on); a fired up and well organized, though not particularly brilliant, Ibrox team; a lacklustre, unlucky and ineffective Celtic (can no one make a pass connect? Does everyone have to hang on the ball for a count of 20 before trying to pass, is it a team order?); no player seeming to be particularly bothered one way or the other …

To me the game, and the season, wasn’t lost to a marvelously skillful Ibrox team – it was a very poor, unimaginative and couldn’t-care-less Celtic team that lost the season.

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  Steve M

No.

The 5 Way Agreement killed this season.

And Celtic with it.

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  G R I N G O

It’s the same thing, Celtic roll over and take a log stabbing for Sevco.

You’re just looking at it backwards and trying to cause a fight.

But the war is over, soldier, and Sevco won.

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  G R I N G O

*From Sevco.

FOR Celtic.

Jolly rodgered.

Funkyy
7 months ago
Reply to  Steve M

I agree Steve M…..and they had the cheek to still pick up their big wage packets. All the badge kissing in the world doesn’t hide the fact that they really didn’t care about how much this season meant to diehard Celtic fans…..the majority of them should feel totally ashamed of themselves for what they have permitted to happen, but then they’re probably only thinking about their next transfer and signing-on fee. They should be signing down the JobCentre.
We used to think that the only danger to clubs was a low fan turnout and hence not enough money coming in to the clubs…..now it’s a case of too much money in football and it’s a free for all by owners, executives and players to fill their pockets with as much of it as they can before the bubble bursts. “Greed is good, greed works”….and greed will kill football.

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  Funkyy

You have no idea what REALLY happened behind the scenes at CP this year.

Ralph knows, but he’s obviously not telling, and I’m not telling because you wouldn’t believe me and would all start acting like hysterical chimps again.

So work it out for yourselves.

I’ve been leaving clues on here for you for months.

Monti
7 months ago
Reply to  G R I N G O

The clue about you being a total fanny?
I got that one 🙂

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  Monti

Away back tae yer nude books, numpty.

Charlie Green
7 months ago
Reply to  Steve M

Totally agree about the lack of hitting a ball first time. It is one of two things which are, firstly they are coached that way, or secondly , they haven’t a clue where anybody is due to poor tactics. Either way it is one of the most frustrating things to watch as the opposition takes those seconds to get into a better position.
I have just thought of a third…inability.

G R I N G O
7 months ago

Does anyone know why Dominic McKay’s hometown of Largs is such an important place in the world of football?

Where even top class coaches like Andre Villas Boas & Jose Mourinho visit as an integral part of their training?

Cortes
7 months ago
Reply to  G R I N G O

It’s the secret sessions in Millport that guarantee success:


But they’ll never kill the thrills we’ve got
Burning up to the Crocodile Rock
Learning fast as the weeks went past
We really thought the Crocodile Rock would last”

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  Cortes

It’s the secret sessions in Millport that guarantee success:’

That is the correct answer!

Well done, Cortes, not a lot of people know or want to admit that.



Monti
7 months ago
Reply to  Cortes

Cortes, puting this season aside, we had just won nine titles in a row & four consecutive trebles.
With all that a fact, where were we impeded by outside influences?

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  Monti

Stop deflecting and answer the Largs question first, brainless.

7 months ago

Before the first Derby of the season we went into the game 1 pt behind with a game in hand. Win it we were 2 in front with the game in hand.
The manager blew it with his selections and tactics and we lost not only the match but the league that day. The team never fully recovered and lost belief that we could beat rangers under Lennon.
The players were there to win 10 the management team wasn’t.

portpower
7 months ago

50+1 is all good and well but the biggest hurdle for change is the SFA.
RIFC/TRFC are the SFA, whose temple is the Blue Room inside Ibrox.

Detach that stronghold and Scottish Football would prosper.

Mike.
7 months ago
Reply to  portpower

While most of that is true, the real truth is much more complicated. There are a few things that are known truths. *Rangers are still going through the liquidation process, incorporated in1899, they died, that truth is denied by the governing bodies, the MSM and by our own board, who through Resolution 12 and the 5Way Agreement are complicit in that lie. Why did they do that, because they thought that without the basket off assets and Celtic to finance it, Scottish football would revert to a junior type league. So they all invested in the big lie. The problem we have, is that we too are heavily invested in our club and it would take a mammoth task to get the support to back a bhoycott.
Personally I would rather support our club even if it meant we played in a reduced league, an honest game is much more important to me than watching the game knowing that it’s bent. Another truism is that a new, professional management team will appear soon, new, better bigger players will appear and Scottish football will continue with Celtic returning to the top of the league and the support will turn out in huge numbers. Such is life, nothing is perfect.

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  Mike.

That is NOT a Truism, Mike, that’s doughty wishful thinking on your part.

Don’t you get it?

It’s Sevco’s turn now.

Desmond and Peter have guaranteed it.

And Eddie Howe won’t last 5 minutes in the Gold Firm bowl.

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  Mike.

That is NOT a Truism, Mike, that’s doughty wishful thinking on your part.

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  G R I N G O

Don’t you get it?

It’s Sevco’s turn now, that’s what all the lying was for.

And Eddie Howe won’t last 5 minutes under the pressure.

Monti
7 months ago

RIP Alan McLoughlin

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  Monti

Tell us, Monti, what attracted a good RA man like yourself to Kirkcaldy?

Monti
7 months ago

5/5/81 RIP BOBBY SANDS

The Rising of the Moon!

G R I N G O
7 months ago
Reply to  Monti

More howling at the moon from you, fireplace @rse.

Mike.
7 months ago

Manchester City reaches the C.L. Cup Final. No this is what reached the final… £££££££££.

Can’t buy me love, love, can’t buy me love, love. Money can buy you anything you want, including winning the C.L. Go Compare with 1967, “the fans came in their thousands, to see the bhoy’s become “Champions”. and that is a truism. Local bhoy’s one and all and on a small wage.

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