The word on the street is that failure tonight in Aberdeen will see the departure of Ronny Deila.
Disappointingly, it appears the board, presumably to deflect attention away from their own failings, are listening to calls, emails and a media frenzy which they don’t have the backbone to dismiss for what it is.
Homegrown players are apparently unhappy that Stefan Johansen, seemingly as poor in training as he is on the pitch-although thats a matter of opinion-is the cause of friction as deila continues to pick him.
Players read forums, they read message boards and they read the papers. Not since the days of Tony Mowbray have we witnessed such a concerted effort to remove a Celtic manager. In that [articular case, it was merited, but to remove a manager if he fails to go nine points clear at the top of the league is ridiculous.
With five in a row more than a distinct possibility, and no realistic possibility of a serious and sustained challenge within the next five years, the magical ten in a row is frightening the establishment.
With most of us realising that in the past we weren’t paranoid enough, it should naturally follow that supporters should take a step back and examine the current campaign to remove Deila for what it actually is.
We are constantly told that supporters want him out.
From the reactions on here, which I have been looking at, some do. They are more vocal than those who don’t.
There reasons for this action ?
A poor European campaign, and no signs of progress on the pitch.
What we are seeing is every mistake amplified, every below par performance magnified and every decision criticised.
Certain players are being maligned in such a way, and with such vitriol, that its difficult to understand why they bother.
From the best supporters in the world ?
We accuse the fans of the now defunct Rangers for being gullible, but is there really any difference in the way that a number of Celtic supporters have leapt enthusiastically onto a bandwagon driven by the scottish sports media which wants Deila out ?
Last night, social media reported, via Ladbrokes and Betfair, that Ryan Giggs was on hos way to replace Ronny Deila.
It was nothing more than one of those daft we parody accounts trying to draw attention to itself.
However, the media made a story of it;
Fraser Glen in the Record;
A LEADING bookmakers believe the Red Devils legend is on his way to Parkhead to replace Ronny Deila as boss.
RYAN GIGGS is set to leave Manchester United and take over at Celtic , according to one leading bookmakers.
Betfair sparked an internet meltdown last night after they tweeted that Giggs had left his role as Old Trafford No.2 and was expected to replace Ronny Deila as Hoops boss within the next 48 hours.
The Ibrox Evening Times went with;
Is Ryan Giggs taking over at Celtic FC? The internet has already ‘spotted’ him in Glasgow
whereas anyone with any common sense went with
But the media went with it, whilst ignoring the first rule of reporting.
Check your facts.
All of which must be unsettling for Deila, who will need balls of steel to see this season through, never mind getting to ten in a row, which of course to some, is not as important as qualifying for the champions league.
If your season, and support of a club, is based on how much money it makes, you’re going to the wrong games.
If you want to see a team beat the odds, like we used to do, and upset a few of the cash cow clubs, then stick around, we might be building something here.
But at least let those who are building it know we will support them.
Anyone who cannot see that this hysteria around the manager is playing into establishment hands.
They know that Celtic would end up with John Hughes or Jackie MacNamara if Deila went. At best we could maybe get someone who has made an arse of it elsewhere in for a few months, who might do well, but would almost certainly dosappear back down south as soon as a job came up.
We cannot buy players who command high wages. We cannot compete with even Stoke City, who just spent £18m on one player.
And add to that however much they are paying him.
We need to make our own players.
It takes time.
And the longer that Deila is in place, there is more chance of a succesful Celtic emerging, and they are terrified of that.
The SFA are about to implode.
The Resolution 12 guys will have their day.
Mike Ashley and his crew, as distasteful as they may be, Charles Green, Craig Whyte et al will expose them for what they are.
They will happily try to take our minds off it by stirring a frenzy against our club.
Second Rangers, even if they come up , are years away from a serious challenge.
That hurts them. It hurts all of them.
So they turn their guns on Celtic, and by divising the support, the players and even the board, they can set us back by a year or two.
On the pitch, the season is too long for honest mistakes to have a real impact.
As five turns to six, and then seven, the pressure will be cranked up a gear or two.
If we don’t stand together now, then it will be easier for them to beat us later on.
Starting tonight at Aberdeen.
Already billed as a title decider, in that Cetic will only be three points ahead instead of nine if the dons win, its time for the support to get behind their heroes.
Celtic have problems in defence, as Jozo Simunovic is injured again, and no-one would blame Efe ambrose if he decided to say fuck it, and listen to his ipod during the game.
Gordon, Lustig, Ambrose, Sviatchenko, Tierney, Brown, MacGregor, Armstrong, Johansen, MackaySteven, Griffiths.
You’ll notice Johansen in there. In his normal role. You’ll notice MacGregor in there. We’ll ned him.
Theres no biton, because he doesn’t seem like he wants to get his hands dirty-or anything lese , come to think of it.
We need battlers, we need heart, and we need to show we are a team.
How about we just get on with it ?
One more thing, the replies are likely to be passionate, which is great.
We are not going to insult anyone else on here anymore. Reasoned, mature and passionate argument is fine. I’m sick of people trolling and just having a go at each other.
If you do, it will be deleted, without comment,and if it continues, so will the poster.
We are all Celtic supporters, and I’m sure if we want to be abused , there are more than enough of the other lot who will be happy to do that for us.
Now, believe it or not, this is a wee figurine of a Celtic player, presumably designed by Jonathan Watson of Only an Excuse.
Which one ?
Great post.
Give the man. And the team, time and our support.
Hail Hail
Indeed a great post. Ma sentiments exactly. -time…2-0 against the Dons but…..MON THE HOOPS !!
It’s Sammi!
Great post Ralph. Tonight is a big game and we will win it. (Still wouldnt have Johannsen anywhere near the pitch.
The late great Tommy Burns ?
Couldn’t agree more. United we stand.
Long time reader, first time poster.
100% Spot on.
People calling for Ronnys head is laughable.
Replace him with who?!? Id love to the list that the hater have for his replacement.
Moyes? Don’t make me laugh
Giggs? Still laughing
O’Neill ?Stop it…… im going to piss myself.
The squad has been in major need of reconstruction for many a year now and Ronny is slowly but surely fitting in the pieces of the jigsaw.
Yes, I understand some of the signings have been baffling, Cifti, Cole etc but can we really believe that these were ronny signings given his policy on the majority if other signings?
The Man needs to be given time to create his own team, and the longer we have Lawell and Co in charge, chances are it will never happen.
so why would having michael oniell as manager make you laugh? a guy that his guided NORTHERN IRELAND to a major finals for the first time in 30 years? when celtic signed ronny did you have a heart attack then or what? cos an unknown from norway must of registered on the laugh scale with you? dont make ME laugh…
Have a look at his stats as a manager before you think about the great achievement of leading Northern Ireland, you trying to tell me that if we were linked to a manager with those stats you would be happy?
Ronnys track record of building team from the bottom to top with little money through youth was exciting for me as it was and still is exactly what is needed.
it was exciting and the type of manager we required! but its not worked!! i would have oneill in over ronny evry day of the week…ronny won the norwegian league… well done. oneill hs took a team that used to get gubbed 8-0 from finland to the euros!!! he has a football brain and has used it!!! now the problem is we are no longer in a postion of relative strengh… weve wasted 2 seasons, if ronny was the correct man we would be 6or7 years ahead of everyone else, you can say hand on heart that we are at the moment? can you tell me if we have improved?
I agree to a point. I do think that the job of ‘Ripping it up and starting again’ has turned out to be a bigger job that anyone has imagined. But I do think that it needs to be done and its worth sticking with Ronny to see the job through.
We should and probably will win the league for the next few years and if this period of pain sets us up for success in the future then I for 1 am all for it.
Difficulty with changing now means there will probably be a whole change in what we have been trying to so in the last 2-3 years, and where will that leave us?
if we stay on this path we will not win the league in 2 years….. team are forever improving and were not… that will bite us soon… i predict we will not see the ucl for 5 years under this man… he doesnt learn from mistakes, we have went back the way and there are NO signs of improvement,
i fear we need a mrtin oneill style appointment and have to spend more than we should if were realistic about the ucl
Ho Ho Ho
Hee Hee Hee
Monti,
If you still think that Craig Thompson Sundays referee
had nothing absolutely nothing to do with the result then look at Joe o Rourkes comments on the supporters
blog.
I still believe that we were pish but to suggest that he had nothing to do with it read his review,i will await your apology.
I’d take a seat if I were you, that apology isn’t coming anytime soon!
Absolutely fine,ill wait to the weekend,if theres none coming then you only diminish yourself.
There is none so blind as them that canny see whats in front of them.
Great post therein lies the real problem.
Lawwell and Co.
Steve Clarke.
The post seems to me to be focused on the wrong thing. It’s not about our league position. It’s not about winning a treble. It’s not even about winning.
It’s all about the quality of the performances, recruitment and tactics. Performances over the past two years have been very poor. Not only in Europe where we’ve been found out big time. Domestically, notwithstanding our record number of victories/goals for/goals against, the displays have been uninspiring, missing the promised high intensity and high pressing. The quality of previously good players has been unacceptable, with very few notable exceptions.
If I mention, only as an example, £4million spend on Scepovic and Ciftci, that ought to cover our recruitment problems. There are loads more like Boyata and Blackett. There are weird decisions to send Henderson and others on loan whilst borrowing crap from elsewhere…..have I mentioned Blackett already?
The tactics are laughable, except that it’s not funny. I give you McGregor’s substitution, Brown’s inclusion and Forrest only last Sunday as examples. This sort of nonsense has been going on all season.
There are man-management benefits, of course, such as Tierney and Griffiths but for every one of those, there’s a disaster like Commons and Stokes even Izaguirre.
There are boardroom problems, too. DD is contemptuously absent, neither Bankier not Livingstone has a clue about the club and the attitude in respect of the most recently late Glasgow club and the SFA in general is arrogant.
Should we not complain about these things? Just because it encourages the unworthy SMSM, should we sit on our hands whilst the club deteriorates?
I think not.
Surely if the signings you mentioned are not RD’s choice but he is accepting them – he hasn’t got the cojones to be a Celtic manager. The loans in and out are baffling.
Craig,
Why ask posters for a ” list of names ” if you aren’t capable of absorbing the clear reasons for those names to be considered?
I tell you what you want to start, I’ll play.
The names that I have provided on here are managers who are RESPECTED in the game, respected enough to be offeredthe two historically, biggest clubs in English football.
Have you ever been offered a top job at a world institution? Or indeed a job?
Go on, kick it off
Let’s hope the celtic supporters get right behind the bhoys tonight and sicken that Aberdeen mob and thier big greeting mgr oh and no flares plz hail hail com on the hoops
I hope so, too. I also hope that a resounding victory doesn’t blind us all to the serious flaws at the club.
Cecil,
Apparently some of us want us to get beaten tonight….
Very odd
then whats wi yer inane “tic toc tic toc” nonsense??
never want a celtic team to lose, and of course i want them to be succesful, but i simply do not see it under the curent manager. i think its unfair to suggest that the fans who want the manager out are being seduced by the msm… i have not missed many games in the last 12 calender months and i think i can count on my 2 hands the really good performances weve had and felt progress was being made and mistakes being learned from… i felt walkign out of the amsterdam arena that maybe it had clicked but sadly was proved to br wrong… its the way we cant learn from mistakes that gets me the most… i.e set plays and being hit on the counter from corners! its the same defensive erros and the same side to side football.. for every hamilton 8-1 theres a warsaw, moptherwell, molde etc… we have not progresses as we should have in the last 18months and there are no signs that we will… what is going to change in time for july under this management? we cannot afford another season in the europa, we need the money like sevco need hong kong investment… the crowds of 25k aweek will ensure that.. and thats becuase were mostly boring to watch and not progressing.. why play johansen and co if we have these young ones in? at least then we can say hes trying something different? its like banging your head off a brick wall watching celtic these days…
Efe wouldn’t know how to turn his Ipod on, he would sit on the bench waiting for it to just come on by magic.
Nice wee attempt of deflection by bringing second Rangers and the media into proceedings alongwith the usual pro Ronny Stick by Efe veine.
The reality is somewhat different though, the media or second Rangers don’t pick the Celtic side or play a player who continually harms the club, the media didn’t tell the Celtic squad how to approach European games.
Second Rangers have nothing to do with not being able to beat Kilmarnock and Motherwell.
Tens of thousands of Celtic fans are staying away from Celtic park because of the product on show, again nothing to do with second Rangers or the media, the results aren’t good enough, the performances aren’t good enough that is why fans are staying away.
As for the trolling bit, I hope you aren’t aiming that at me, responding to nonsense isn’t trolling, it is simply responding to nonsense.
I agree that some of my comments aren’t the best, but I ain’t alone in that.
Celtic are in decline, you can’t expect folk who care about the club to sit back and watch that.
What you should expect though is the site to be treated with respect and other posters comments not to be described as ” pish ” as I have done, and for which I do apologise.
There will be no apologies to Charlie Saiz tho, he knows what he’s doing.
Hope that wasn’t trolling.
Great post Ralph. Let show them we are the best supporters I the World HH
I find it really starnge that Celtic supporters are turnign so easily. There must be some short memories in our support. Under MON, Strachan, ,owbray,Lennon we have had periods where the football has been poor, we have lost games but we always bounce back. It seems that RD is not alloowed the mluxury of these mistakes. If you lok at the players those other manager had and the ones they could bring in before the market down South priced us out of everything then maybe you will realise that RD is doing a pretty decent job. We ar the best club in the country by a long long way, bever mind what the press may say, they are trying to save a dying industry and to appeal to the knuckle dragger shwo think Celtic are in trouble. The age of the team is very low, we have young players who will make mistakes but irrespective they should all have our support. The fans are there to support the club, through everything and mos tof the time we do but when we lose a game lets not think the ceiling is caving in, instead do what we have always done, stand up and make ourselves heard, show them we are the 12th man we keep saying we are, show them we are the best supporters in the world not just on a dark night against Barca. A sad day when a team at the top of the league and in the Scottish is being portrayed as in trouble. Time to rise above that and stay faithful…..starting tonight.
…..but the dodgy periods under previous managers didn’t last for one and a half seasons. Afraid if you think Deila’s doing a good job and if that view represents the majority view, we’re doomed very much sooner than I’d expected.
There’s nothing that he’s doing right that isn’t countered by so much that he’s doing wrong.
Again, it’s not because we’re not far enough away at the top; as I said before, it’s not about winning. It’s all about performances, recruitment and tactics.
Where’s the high intensity, high pressing, attractive football that the manager can talk about but can’t deliver. We’re only asking from him what he’s promised.
“it’s not about winning”
Tell that to Tommy Burns.
That was a Fergus issue. The support was happy with TB. There was no campaign,then, to get shot of the manager.
Spot on bud success has bred a wee seed of entitlement within our ranks some can’t handle defeat or take it with a bit of pride no now we have some screaming the house down at the first sign of anything going wrong.
We won a double last Season and in the end in Europe e gathered our composure.
This summer we lost the heart of the defence and so far this season our defence has been the main issue.
The feet stampers will continue to ignore the injuries ,the loss of form of key men and continue to scream blue murder until the Manager goes.
That’s just it is now with some.
They need to take a step back,look at the entire picture and see we are developing a young squad that at some point in the near future will be good enough to take the reigns from the likes of Brown Commons Mulgrew Lustig etc etc.
It all it needs is a little bit of patienc and we bit of belief.
Great post mate bang on the money.
Who needs PR companies or Jabba we have Monti
Only on loan though….
alan thompson?
You are complacent in the extreme if you actually believe no serious challenge is realistic within the next 5 years.
Ronny is the focal point currently, but right now the issues start at the top. For example, appointing assistant coaches who do not complement Ronny in terms of compensating for some of his weaknesses (e.g. experience, tactical nous and basic pragmatism) and a recruitment policy which puts sell on value (thus ensuring year-end bonuses for Lawell and co.) above on field achievement have done nothing to set Deila up for success.
In addition, if Celtic need to make their own players, why is an 18 year old boy from Man City being brought in instead of making room for a bhoy like Nesbitt in the first team?
I appreciate your insistence on supporting the team, but right now this does not look good and does not appear to be moving in the right direction. Hopefully we beat Aberdeen today and you are proven right in the long run. I’m confident about winning today, but not so much you will be proven right in the long run.
I agree questions should be getting asked in the Board room and you are spot on about where their/his focus lies with the current signing policy.
Ralph
This is not media driven. Those and I mean large numbers of the support, have never taken to the ‘coach’. If you use the mentality that the MSM are driving this, then you are as gullible as those over at the scrapyard. I said at the very beginning of his tenure, that results, performances and attendances would be the judge of Deila and though he can’t be entirely to blame, he has alienated a large section of the support, hee haw to do with the media. I think what the board has realised is, this guy will not take the club to where they need to be and you can dress it up anyway you want, that means CL qualification and as you’ve seen, he does not have the ability to get us over the line, we’re getting further away from that goal. Simply put, the players do not go the extra required to get us through must win games when the chips are down and that falls squarely on his lack of motivation and tactical ability.It’s been evident on too many occasions when in a position of strength.
Andybhoy,
Replied earlier but halfway through the post disappeared just like the wifes undies in storm Henry.
Totally agree with you,the only thing i would add is the Board
usually go unscathed in the Managements critisisms,they must see what we see,hopefully they will act at seasons end.
post gone missing, harsh to say the msm are influencing my ronny out status, imo the team has regressed too much under the mangement, and i believe a change is required.. ive lost paticent with the guy and i want him replaced.. wanted it to work, but get the distinct impression hes making it up as he goes along
massive game tonight, need 3 points, COYBIG
100% agree.
Get real people. Ditching Deila now would be crazy.
I’m not so sure that the SMSM are purely motivated by anti-Celtic bias. They love a witch hunt. It makes them feel important. They did the same with Paul Le Guen – though for different (and yet similarly murky) reasons.
I have given him my support and over a year and a half of time. don’t see any progress in that time – unless you call passing back and to the side progress. remember when you would know the celtic team before being announced – now it could be anyone in or out. the guy doesn’t know his best team and is always messing with it. I agree it would be foolish to remove him now but I’m past kidding myself that he is the answer long term.
I agree wholeheartedly…and I wanted him out after Legia.
I like the guy, some of his decisions are unfathomably…some of his tactics bar belief.
but the only way to ram it home is win the league at a canter again, and we will.
lets ride Aberdeen like they do their sheep tonight 4-0 pumpin will do
David hay,
I was your biggest fan when you played for the TIC,but what the fuck have the wee wonderfull sheep done to you to,to make
them have to accept being shagged by the unwashed hordes from the north.
Great diary today Ralph, don’t necessarily agree with all your thoughts about Ronny, but it was constructive at least and gives pause for thought.
100% agree on the comments/trolls piece.
2 posts away walkies!!! i have not been seduced my the msm… i get ready to go to the games at home and i really cant be bothered, its so boring… the same lull we had at the ground under mogga, and that was with keane up front!! MASSIVE changes are required, hope we win tonight, we need to win tonight but we also need a manager who can take the pressure next season will bring.. can anyone say hand on heart they have no problem going to ibrox next season? i dont, not because i think they are good but because he seems to have created a team off bottleres and not battlers… i fear for the future under this guy
No one is deleting your posts.
The time to replace Ronny was when the transfer window was open to allow the new man a chance to bring in his own players. Ronny’s not the man for me but I hope he wins tonight and gets the double before being replaced at seasons end.
i know mate, i know they sometines take time to come through
the time is now… we do not have a bad squad of players, just a squad going in the wrong direction, plenty of time under a decent manager to arrest the slide
Hector,
I’d be happy with that scenario!
Who is the ref tonight
great article ralph the only street the ronny naysayers are on is shit street the kerrydale streeters are backing oor ronny 2-0 to the hoops tonight though the specsavers loyal will be lookng for an excuse to fuck us up COYBIG
aw i didnt know that kerrydale street backed the manager… that changes everything… clearly i imagined the last 2 ucl campaigns and horrific defeats this year to motherwell and ross county
RONNY MUST STAY
aw did we lose a coupla games if you canny handle defeat dont go but stop crying ffs
no we havent lost a couple of games charlie, and your ‘greetin’ chants are getting rather boring… in your own words then charlie, please put a case forward for keeping the manager…. did we win a group game in europe this season? did we get eliminated from the ucl after leading the home tie 2-0 after 15 mins, have we managed to beat kilmarnock this season? are we still on course for the ‘coveted’ treble… are we 15 points clear from aberdeen bearing in mind they went on a 5 game unbeaten run? are we playing high pressing free flowing football? are opponents scared to play us at celtic park? is the stadium full and bouncing every week? will i continue?
5 game without a win run that should say… my apologies
no need to apoligise jeest dont do it again ha ha
see if i stop saying stop crying will you stop crying
YES WILL TRY
Couldn’t agree more Ralph. I’ve been saying for a while , this is the only Celtic manger in our history who has been threatened with the sack for not winning a treble. Get a grip! Building a young team team takes a long time and there will be a lot of results like Sunday. But I believe we will get there and the fact there are young Scots coming through makes me very happy. HH
Nice one Moickel HH
Love the passion in the article today, and like (hopefully) the vast majority I will support the players and manager 100%.
Unfortunately this does not take away from the fact I think Ronny is not the man to take us forward. But I’m not gonna shout at him or the board or give the team a hard time. While he is here I will support him regardless of my view on his ability to take us forward.
100% spot on.
Let’s hope he starts to do something that provides evidence to ALL supporters that he is the right man to take us forward.
is it macca wae a peter grant wig
It’s meant to be James Forrest, my grand daughters got it.
surely to big for jamsie ha ha
lol
Massimo Donatti
A good read, Ralph. Unfortunately some fans can’t see the wood for the trees just now. They’re being manipulated by the SMSM who are using every trick in the book to deflect from the mess across the City.
No, we don’t have the board throwing money away on has-been Championship players but, really, why do we need too! Admittedly we are not exactly running away with the league but, we are winning, ticking over without really exerting ourselves.
Another thing, who would realistically come up here to manage us! And don’t say Moyes who hasn’t done anything remotely successful. We don’t have the resources to attract big names, we play in a small insignificant league compared to our neighbours down south.
Faithful through and through eh?
Rubbish
What’s rubbish, Andy? Disagreeing is one thing but at least elaborate.
You are saying that fans are led by the media, absolute bollocks. Use your eyes man. Look around Celtic Park on matchday, this team in general, don’t give their all and that is down to one person.
As for Davie Moyes and I am no advocate for him to get the job, he’s still ten times the manager Deila is.
Well said. The notion that Celtic fans that want Deila out are influenced by the media is pathetic. It’s also nothing to do with his failure to win The Treble. There are 25k to 30k Celtic fans at home league matches just now. Why do people think that’s the case?
Moyes!
Bullocks!
You always say Moyes – it’s mental. No record in Europe, never won anything and his teams plays the most negative football imaginable. His last two jobs, he’s lasted less than a year.
Do you know how many of his games he won at Sociedad?
28%.
quarter finals?????????????
Spot on Paolo
Great post. Time for us to SUPPORT Celtic.
With the financial situation preventing us buying a good team, we really need a strategy as currently defined. We are only in the second year but I can see significant progress in the club ( obviously there has been setbacks but everyone else wants to focus on them so I’ll stay positive.)
The basics are in place as we could see in the last couple of league games and we need to add consistency and strength to this which will take us forward.
The fundamentals are now in place like training, coaching, lifestyle management, etc. and this is not just the first team. The development squad grow week on week as can be seen by their league position ( grubbed the wee second rangers during the week).
This is priming the pipeline of players coming through the ranks and although limited to date, the future looks promising.
Transition is never easy but winning the league while making such a change should be a comfort and I for one believe that this will be the a most challenging and successful period for us all.
Keep the faith!!
Remember what Ralph said. – if you don’t agree constructive and don’t send the heavies round!
I cant see any progress and we have always had a good Development/Youth squad long before Delia.
How many have actually made it though bud?
We must cut loose on average 5 or 6 a Season with maybe 1 or 2 every 2 or 3 years getting first team Football.
We have Kelleher O’Connel Wardrop Breslin Findlay Henderson and Nesbitt nearing first team action be great to see some of them joining Tierney and Forest soon.
We always seem to have a lot on the verge of coming through and dont. In a year and a half of Delias reign
we have Tierney and McGregor (unless he was first played under Lennon) so still no pipeline in the offing. And has been mentioned elsewhere we would rather play youths from Manchester than our own.
Not so we have Henderson and Lidsay to come back and O’Connell back now after his loan spell.
Nesbitt isn’t ready not from what I have seen of him so it made sense to send him to the Jaggies who play a nice attacking style?
Meanwhile no doubt Lawwell will be looking at moving a couple on in the window to secure his Bounty..Bitton and Johansen most likely so there will be spaces opening up for these kids.
Tkaes time but patience and time as the very best sides have taken 3-5 years to mould build and consolidate into solid teams..
Nice sentiments here but the Ronny experiment is not working. He was brought in to take us forward and o the next level in Europe. We’re going back the way!! This is the worst Celtic side since the Mowbray fiasco.
The hype surrounding Tierney is ridiculous. When other clubs and quality managers will protect young players and gently ease them onto the scene, we are hyping this kid up to be the next Roberto Carlos. This is a distraction tactic to mask the truth.
The Board should be working now to replace Deila if not ASAP, certainly at the end of the season. I hope we get a victory tonight or even a point but Aberdeen will be a stiff test and they will fancy their chances.
Hail Hail
Tierney is a solid defender and for someone so young has done well bud.
Sergeantino,
I totally agree!
Ronnie will roar tonight
I completely agree with you on the gullibility of our own supporters. Two days before the ‘biggest game of the season’ and on the back of a nightmare semi-final, which was not the manager’s fault the media are suggesting all sorts of charcters are waiting to step in to the Parkhead hot-seat. Good grief. If Celtic supporters really believe that Michael O’Neill or Ryan Giggs would do a better job than Deila they are delusional. Both of them have limited club management experience. Tonihg twill be tight but it will be a draw and the jjnives will be out for the manager despite being 6 in front with about 13 games to play. When did Celtic supporters become such a hystaerical mob with a sense of entitlement.
john hail hail mate
Spot on.
John,
When we realised that the manager can’t take the club forward.
Would you like to show in detail his record in games that matter?
Do you think it’s acceptable we can’t beat Kilmarnock or being beaten at home, convincingly by Motherwell?
Is that good enough these days is it?
Obviously tens of thousands of Celtic fans who aren’t going to the games see clear progress!
Totally agree Ralph, great post .
The manager and the team need our support more than every .
So let’s support the CELTIC Starting tonight at Aberdeen .
Well done Ralph – great article. Ronnie is not and should not be beyond criticism but some of what has been aimed his way is grossly unfair. Anyone who doesnt believe there is a media agenda against him is in cloud cuckoo land. IMHO he is worth persevering with awhile longer. COYBIG
This is where I am at too bud a common sense approach IMO.
liatroimbhoy ronny should tell the laptop loyal to go fuck themselves celtic should get tommy boyd to do interviews with the shithooses
I do not normally comment on sites but having read with interest some of the comments some constructive some not I thought I would give my views on the current situation !
Why is Deila taking all the flack he is supposed to be assisted by two people in Collins and Kennedy I do not see much support and my suggestion would be to cut both of these two loose bring in an experienced manager in David moves or of similar stature and let Delia bring on our next generation of celtic stars work g along side the new manager yes/no ?
Gerryboy
I have a few issues with this post.
I agree that media hysteria is clearly apparent here – this is the norm in Scottish football, at both Celtic Park and Ibrox (although it is worth mentioning that I do believe Celtic reporting can be particularly over-zelous). However, it is insulting to belittle the opinion – of what empirically appears to be a majority – of Celtic supporters as little more than a collective head-nod with Scottish football journalists, who I am sure you will agree are often dimwitted at best. There is no smoke without fire, and the reason there is no longer a ‘Ronny Roar’ or any chanting of the managers name is due to fans disillusionment at what is being presented on the park – not what is being read in the newspapers.
Again, I agree with your opinion that failing to go nine points clear at the top is a sacking offence. In isolation that is ridiculous. Similarly, failing to win a treble, or a poor day at Hampden, is also not worth a sacking – on their own. However, my assessment of Celtic over the last two years is that we peaked sometime around three-quarters through last season, and have failed to progress from there. Football supporters do not wholly rely on statistics, so the point Celtic are better off now than they were last season is a mute one to many.
The crux of my point is that Celtic supporters have lost faith in the manager’s ability to make Celtic a better team, something which is supported by both hard facts such as an abysmal Euro campaign or Celtic’s near goal-a-game conceding rate, and the anecdotal.
Finally, for what its worth, I agree that there is little faith that Celtic would appoint an effective manager should Deila go. Indeed, i unequivocally believe that Celtic’s hierarchy are part of the problem, and the manager cannot be blamed for all of Celtic’s ills, although this is a whole other discussion. This is not reason enough to refrain from judging the manager on an objective basis.
Apologies for the long read. Reckon the statue has got to be Forrest.
Good post MR.
MReilly,
I enjoyed your post!
Excellent Diary and so on the money with everything covered.
I shall get back to commenting about Celtic and see how it goes if the trolling continues I will simply ignore it as long as I can then take my views on Celtic elsewhere.
Well said Raplh we move on and up hopefully.
HH
Listen you will need to watch what u print on here, I think it’s unfair on you to pick out certain players who in your mindset are Duds.cowards etc,you like a lot celtic supporters feed the sevco media.with this tripe,and to tell you the truth your Rumour Mill is just that tripe,and downright lies,
Great stuff Ralph. Change can be difficult and challenging. The board decided to change our overall strategy long term and I hope they have the balls to stick with Ronny. We haven’t been great, far from it but with inexperienced players cones inconsistency.
We now have a good group of young players with undoubted potential. They will improve given time,as will the manager.
Don’t give a rats arse about the manky mob and sincerely hope that hibs and others can keep them as far away from us as possible, really don’t want them near our great stadium again.
Hope for a big reaction from the players tonight. Let’s bag another title tonight.
COYBIG
I’m all for not listening to the media as I don’t care about their opinion. My opinion as a season ticket holder is that unfortunately Ronny has not produced what he promised on the pitch and we have a team that is disorganised and not playing a high intensity passing game. we constantly when under pressure hump the ball up field to the opposition defence and try to harry them into giving us the ball back, this may work most of the time in Scotland but does not work in Europe. He sticks to his principles which is commendable but he doesn’t have the players to play the way he wants to, therefore he does not get the best out of the players he has. You can say that he doesn’t pick the players or can’t compete in the transfer market but he has to make the best of what he has and he does not do that. I wanted him to succeed in his plan and I know we are top of the league and still in the Scottish Cup but not withstanding 2 or 3 games this season it has been very poor and without Griffiths we hardly look like scoring, there is one good thing that has come out of Ronny’s time though and that is the emergence of KT who may not have got a chance under a typical SPFL manager.
dont say that jackie thre will be people on here telling you hes only scored half of our goals in a minute
That’s why I said ‘hardly’ bgbhoy. The Thistle game comes to mind when I have never felt so flat leaving a stadium after a last minute win
jackie… PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY GO TO THE GAMES GET THAT FEELING… BUT PEOPLE THAT DONT GO BUT READ THE CELTIC VIEW ARE CORRECT
Surely you mean Pravda.
all goals are scored withiin a minute.
Well said DNC.
Aside from a great spell from January to May 2015, RD has talked a good game but not delivered. The reasons may be long, varied and complex but I’m past caring. CP has become a rapidly emptying ghost town.
It needs to change, and it should start by dispensing with the entire first team coaching staff, then dropping players who show long term loss of form/interest.
Regular attendees/watchers will know who I mean.
Great article Ralph—the voice of sanity. Since Ronny is to be judged only in Europe (unlike the great Walter Smith)— who cares if we don’t get ‘The Treble’? I’m disappointed but not gutted. The league is the trophy because it will get us into the CL, which will happen. Deila is here until our European campaign finishes next year, Christmas or beyond. His is a work in progress and requires more faith than the MSM drip feeds many of our fans. Let’s start tonight by putting the Sheep in their place. We are Celtic supporters, faithful through and through…C’mon the Hoops. Hail, hail.
Devoy,
Hopefully I’m not trolling but thought I’d respond to your post.
In what way is Deila being judged solely on European results?
Are you saying that European results are not important?
Look at some of the results this season, unable to beat the might of Kilmarnock, being beaten at home off Motherwell, Partick Thistle close to taking the points at Parkhead?
A ten man Aberdeen beating us at Pittodrie?
How is he just being judged on Europe, it’s not the case at all.
This fixation that some have that the media won’t Deila out is laughable.
The media are nothing, the only thing that matters is results and performances, Deila doesn’t get them.
He himself has shown he can’t do the job.
He was clueless and completely out of his depth on Sunday v Ross County, unable to change things and turn the game in our favour.
Of course the team he picked and the subs bench were all the fault of second Rangers and the daily record, oh and the referee and a bit of wind and rain didn’t help.
Laughable to suggest this guy is a Celtic manager.
Very worried about tonight and withhold reason.
Deila out!
well said think the person writing this article ,is related to Ronnie,we are up against shit in the SPL ,and should be loads more points ahead of the crap.
ffs monti agreeing with deadhead all it needs is bob to join up to make the treble ha ha
In what post did I agree with him?
News to me.
devoy45 a big hail hail to you too mate
Agree. Win/lose/draw, Ronny must stay on. Not because I think he can cut it (still undecided) but I dread the fact of a mid season shambles of appointing a dud who will no doubt be looking for short term succes and destroy everything done (or in place) towards development. Besides, what neutral, sane manager would really want the job? Low budget, little control of transfer policy, shit league, massive expectations, biased press,… there is absolutely nothing to gain for a manager with no personal ties to the club
Low budget?? are you kidding?
This is a very good post. We have little or nothing to gain by getting rid of Ronny now and some of the posters here and on Twitter are nothing short of a disgrace.
do you go to games
so david moyes coming in until may would be a dud? did he or did he not get everton to 4 in the epl on a shoestring budget? did he or did he not see over the development of a certain wayne rooney? did he or did he not reach the quarter finals of the ucl with a man u team intent on having him sacked as they where all crying for sir alky nose?
So he developed one player who was already an exceptional talent? Everton finished in the top 4 once in the time he was there and that was before their was as much competition for that place as there is now. He also nearly relegated them after one season!! You’d probably be calling for his head after at month. How did he get on developing the club during his time there? How did he get on at Real Sociadad?
Whatever about Ronny, and as with ome posters on here I’m still undecided about his long term future and signing strategy, those who think David Moyes is the answer show a serious lack of understanding of what a good manager looks like and what Celtic need in terms of long term development
How much money did Moyes spend in his time at Everton. Compared to the rest of that league, a fairly derisory amount and he kept them in the top division. Deila wouldn’t last a month in the top 2 divisions in England be very sure of that.
If you think there is a grand plan under Deila you are very much mistaken.
Enough people thought enough about his Everton record , to offer him (Moyes) , the biggest job in British football.
As for his record there ( Man U ), the Van Gaal tenure has shown that “cute” Fergie left just at the right time , as there was a big rebuilding job needed .
All academic re – Moyes and us though , I think , as he wouldn’t be interested in PL constantly peering over his shoulder .
Hi
Great post I agree with all your sentiments. I truly believe if we give him time Ronny will lead us back to Champions League and maybe even the fabled treble. Many of his critics I feel don’t consider the restrictions placed on him by our board, the same reason Lennon left. They also seem to forget after Lennons second season we were in the eyes of many failing badly in Europe, we all remember how great that 3rd season was. We need to accept Celtic are in transition and time if given will bear the fruits of it.
Also on Johansen…. Only my theory but we all know it’s highly likely he will not sign a new contract and he will be sold in the summer. I suspect he keeps getting played in the hope he finds form adding value to his price tag. If this is true maybe it is those above Ronny who insist on him playing almost every game. Only a theory but if you think about it, with lawwell in charge it would not be shocking if true
James Forrest?
Excellent article, a call-to-arms. The refereeing over the next few seasons will be horrendous and answerable to no one. I fear for my heart, I’m getting too on in years for these old rages. Regan et al may fall but they’ll just wire a new crew in. Dickson will still be there, deviating.
Johansen instead of McGregor off and a different story at Hampden, bhoy is making things happen right now, fine player. Honestly where did the rumour of him going on loan to Partick come from, more mischief? I really would have given up on RD’s player judgement, I’m still pretty unhappy about Hendo going out, I thought he would have pushed on in our 1st Team, done a KT if you like. Looks like we’ve made a couple of cute signings…onward and upwards. HH
I would have hooked Armstrong ,Johansen at least was putting in a shift and contributing Armstrong was back to his early season form again.
Who would be a Manager eh?
KTF a disgrce?? your hilarious!! a disgrace for wanting out club to prosper? a disgrace for wanting our club at the top table of european football? ktf for keep the faith… been to many games this season? let me guess, its the celtic view every tueday for your match reports… how dare you call fellow fans a disgrace for wanting the manager removed… these same fans a disgrace when barnes was the manager? becuase under your logic we should of supported him through the inverness debacle and he would of went on to rule scotland after 3 years??
See post above in reply to your David Moyes nonsense. This is chalk and cheese compared to Barnes. At least Ronny had a long term plan on a budget half the one Barnes had and wihout the quality in his squad Barnes had. On that basis, I’m willing to give him more time to implement his plan which won’t come into fruition overnight. As for top table of European football, you think Moyes is the man to get us there? Now you’re the one being hilarious.
There is no plan.
whats the long term plan> loan signings? moyes got a poor man utd team to the qf?? what has ronny done in the champions league? he lost 6-1 to warsaw and they missed 2 pens was it?
Bgbhoy,The plan is to bluff your way through it and hope you get lucky along the way!
The plan is there is no plan, just hope for the best and talk a lot about philosophies.
Not sure what Brian Clough would make of him…
Why no mention of Alex Ferguson today?
Ralph I think its fair to say I have never insulted another fan on this site and I don’t intend to so I take offence at the inference that my view of what I can see is dictated by the Hun media. Ralph my view is formed on the basis of what I CAN SEE WHEN I LOOK AT PERFORMANCES LIKE SUNDAY.
Not being unrealistic I accept that the financial might of the Premiership is way beyond us for the foreseeable future and that the principled applied by the board in appointing Delia are sound (sorry Monti) but the flaw is that he seems incapable of “managing” crisis situations of being pro-active if you like.
I don’t accept for a minute that if Delia does go we will be faced with a choice between Hughes or McNamara although I am utterly convinced the Hughes could do better. We are still a massive club we still pay very well in terms of the vast majority of clubs we have a huge fan base. etc etc, so don’t tell me we will be short of choice for a manager.
As for tonight I AM UTTERLY HOPING FOR A Celtic win and I roundly condemn those, if there actually are any, who are hoping for a defeat to precipitate action on the manager situation but a comfortable win is NO MORE THAN WE SHOULD EXPECT given our superior playing resources. If anyone feels they can refute what I am saying I am happy to read their responses.
Yours in Celtic
well said maryhillbhoy
Hear Hear.
Maryhillbhoy,
Just for the record, I want Celtic to go to Pittodrie and do some sheep riding and come away with all three points and a nine point gap.
If anyone is thinking that getting beat tonight in order to point score against Deila is my agenda, then feel free to come to my house and watch the game, there you will see what my agenda is…
A Celtic side playing like their lives depended upon it, playing with pride is my fucking ONLY agenda!! HH
well said
Good diary and while I agree the MSM and others are creating a diversion for us all to look away from the shambles of SEVCO, I also feel Delia has to win the league and Scottish Cup to retain his job and get one more year. I would also give him the target of qualification for CL next year. These to me are the targets the Board should set him. In the meantime, we can all get behind him and the team for 5 in a row and another Scottish Cup. We will also be able to get the media focus back on alleged criminal activity, secret deals, and desperation at SEVCO which in my opinion is a national disgrace and directly affects us negatively as journalists are sacked and the news agenda is dominated by Delia, ex Celtic players talking rubbish about Celtic and very little focus on Green, Whyte, King and Big Mick – the real story!
Broxburnbhoy,
You really need to forget about the MSM, Concentrate what is going on at Celtic.
If Celtic are winning and functioning a it should do, it matters not about second Rangers or any media nonsense.
It’s all about Celtic winning!
Monti while we want to concentrate on Celtic, the MSM is having a major influence on how the club is reported and perceived. Celtic are for the most part winning and in a relatively healthy financial and handy league position. Their agenda is to undermine our club and promote the shambles at SEVCO as the answer to Scottish football’s and Celtic’s problems. If only Celtic had competition – by which they mean SEVCO. If only SEVCO could be financed again by playing Celtic etc. We are not an island in this country we are hated and hated with a vengeance that is often crude and loud like the Billy Boys or subtle and implied like through the police and the MSM. While I would like to focus on Celtic I’m bound to challenge their agenda of Celtic in Crisis, while ignoring the biggest sporting scandal in British history
Ronny could possibly get it right…in another couple of years. But I haven’t seen any improvement from him in his first 18 months, don’t see any sign of his fabled style of play (saw that Ranieri has Leicester playing like Ronny said he would, in 6 months, in a tougher league), and I don’t see any sign of it changing.
If you could tell me Ronny would ditch, in the next year: his ludicrous insistence on 4-2-3-1; getting pumped in semi finals; getting absolutely horsed by everyone in Europe; and John Collins, I could maybe see some light at end of the tunnel.
Asking for a leap of faith when the guy has shown next to nothing worries me. I fully expect we will not make the CL again next season. Is winning a league (that we are currently 100/1 on to win btw) and a Cup (maybe…) enough to allow us to lower the overall standard? Maybe for some.
I’m going to give him one very last chance. He needs to grow some baws and make radical changes to style, tactics, coaching staff, off-field discipline, signings – whatever, just something to make us truly believe rather than blindly believe.
ronny d got the treble stolen from him last season and thomson stole that game on sunday and the bastards will have been plotting last night fact
Charlie,
You are right about last season, there is no doubt about that.
We weren’t done by the referee on Sunday, we were done (again) by Ambrose and a manager unable to change from the game plan.
As for referee’s conspiring for tonight….oh dear,dear dear.
Get your excuses in early, Charlie!
monti if it wisnae efe the cunt woulda sent somebody else aff they are cheating fucking scum
its mclean again tonight ffs
Monti,
I agree that we were awfull on sunday and i have absolutely no faith in this Management team,but if you think that Thomson had no hand in sundays game then read Joe o Rourkes match report on the CSA blog.
Well said, Ralph, and well timed too. Good to see a few names back on who have been avoiding the constant trolling and childish repetition. I hope things settle down and we can have some debate and a laugh along the way without bitter, petty little insults that would sound more at home on the school bus. C’mon Celtic, gie the Dons a doing.