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Celtic Diary Saturday July 9: Resolution 12: Off To The Court Of Arbitration ?

The world of Timdom awaited with baited breath last night as Celtic Quick News, one of the bigger and more well informed websites in cyber space, gave us all a build up to a 6pm announcement on Resolution 12.

Was this finally to be the John F Kennedy moment ?

No. not that one.

And oddly enough, it wasn’t the other one either.

As the collective audience read through the update, and then read it again, fearing they’d missed something, a puzzled and slightly bemused support realised that there was little in there they didn’t already know.

At least on the surface.

What seems to have been missed by the reader is that this was an update, as in the story so far.

The build up may have given the impression that there was something groundbreaking in it, something we didn’t know, but because of the way the interweb works, that didn’t happen.

Or did it ?

Lets look a little more closely at the wording… which has been thoughtfully put together and has the look of lawyers all over it.

In fact, some would argue that it reads like a charge sheet….

Update is in italics, comments in between…

 

RESOLUTION 12 – OFFICIAL UPDATE 

Update. The story so far, implying that firstly, there is more to come, and secondly, we’re just letting you know how we are getting on.

In furtherance of Resolution 12 submitted to the AGM of Celtic PLC in 2013, shareholders acting to achieve the aims and goals of the resolution have engaged the services of an international firm of solicitors with a view to having them correspond with the SFA, Celtic PLC and UEFA. 

Note use of the word “international “. Fact is, Scottish lawyers appear to be as equally spineless as the Scottish media. Although it is not known if there is, has been, or will be a preference for lamb. This, in turn, gives an idea of how much effort has gone into this to even get this far.

Over a prolonged period of time, the solicitors concerned have asked the SFA various detailed questions concerning the licensing processes followed by the SFA for and during season 2011/2012 in relation to European Licensing Regulations as determined by UEFA for the purposes of regulating UEFA competitions and Financial Fair Play. 

Again, a process which has to take place, even though, as you will see, there was never any chance of getting anything like the truth out of Regan and his muppets.

Regrettably but not unexpectedly, no meaningful or satisfactory replies were forthcoming from the SFA and on 27thMay 2016 the solicitors wrote to UEFA and asked detailed questions regarding the administration of UEFA licences in Scotland for season 2011/2012 and in particular sought clarification on the role of the SFA in relation to the granting and monitoring of UEFA licences during that season. 

So we move onto the next step,  going over Regans head.

UEFA formally replied to the solicitors on 8th June and that reply made a number of points including the following:

  1. During the process of granting any licensing application it was the duty of the SFA to “assess” all documents and submissions made by applicant clubs.
  2. During the course of season 2011/2012 not only were the SFA/UEFA monitoring clubs for that season, the SFA were also assessing clubs in relation to their eligibility for UEFA competitions for the following season 2012/2013.
  3. At an unspecified date during the course of season 2011/2012 it became apparent to the SFA/UEFA that Rangers Football Club ceased to meet the criteria for holding a UEFA Licence.
  4. Any sanction envisaged by UEFA arising from the licensing submission made by Rangers FC and channelled through the SFA in June 2011 would not have applied until the following season.
  5. Ultimately, no sanction was handed down by UEFA to Rangers FC, nor any investigation instigated into the licensing processes followed in season 2011/2012 because according to UEFA
  • Rangers FC, were not granted a UEFA licence for season 2012/2013
  • Following upon the administration of the club
    • a “new club/company” was formed which was ineligible to apply for a licence to participate in UEFA competitions for three seasons and which
    • sought entry into the fourth tier of Scottish Football and this “new club/company” would not, and could not in any event, qualify to play in European competition for the next three years. 
    • It should be noted here that the whole point of resolution 12 was to request that the Board of Celtic PLC to seek the assistance of the UEFA Club Financial Control Body to use their powers to investigate and clarify various aspects of the licensing processes implemented and carried out by the SFA during season 2011/2012. 

Points one to five, as in any charge sheet, are merely pointing out the rules, and explaining procedure.

Its the next  bit that everyone was expected to get excited about. and in fairness to the Res 12 guys, there’s something in here worth getting into a tizzy about.

We have official clarification that there is a “new club/company “, which despite all the guff about transferring assets and holding companies and so on, UEFA view it all as the same thing. Hence the forward slash, which clarifies that whatever they may say in the company /club debate, its irrelevant, as UEFA deem it as a single entity.

A new entity, in fact.

The key word in all of that is “new “. It dosn;t matter whether they call it a club, a company or a clusterfuck. Its all the same to UEFA, and its new.

 

So, in conclusion, whilst we were all aware of this anyway, UEFA have confirmed that no punishment was handed out  Rangers, as they had, by the time action was required, departed this earth, and all their crimes, and therefore punishments, died with them.

And since “rangers ” have yet to qualify for a European competition, there was no need for the governing body to get involved, in the sense that the new club would not have been allowed in anyway, but there was little need to spend any time pointing out the obvious.

Critics, and there have been a few, are asking for publication of the official UEFA document, but that isn’t going to happen.

Which is when my background in PR and law, although to be fair my experience in law tends to be with the defence, rather than the prosecution, comes in..

PR first, and the golden rule is to cover each and every base, as the term goes, with regard to possible responses to every word in any statement that goes out.

One has to consider each and every argument that may arise after you put something out there.

Or, to cut to the chase, there is a reason why the entire communique has not been published.

Which has to be that the guys are not ready for the response to it, and this update merely lays the groundwork for what is coming next, which we will deal with in the conclusion later..

 

Shareholders wanted to ensure that the game in Scotland was being properly administered and were seeking to ensure that there was open, transparent and accountable governance and that UEFA rules were being properly complied with.

At no point did the resolution seek any kind of investigation into the conduct of Rangers Football Club or its Directors and the sole object of the resolution is in relation to proper governance and the proper application of the football rules by the footballing authorities in Scotland. 

We return here to clarification of why resolution 12 came about. Again, making sure everyone knows what its really about. Especially as quite a large section of society, including those in the media, have shown a remarkable level of either willful ignorance or willful stupidity-perhaps even both-and decided its just another west of Scotland Celtic Rangers thing, which of course it isnt , as one of those clubs is dead, which makes even the most basic level of communication with them a bit tricky.

However, in terms of accountability, the full UEFA response, when set against and contrasted with other information in the public domain, previous replies and public statements from the SFA, has raised further significant and as yet unanswered questions that shareholders feel should be drawn to the attention of UEFA Club Financial Control Body, the SFA (who said they would cooperate with any enquiry/investigation by UEFA) and Celtic, whom UEFA invited to take up directly.

NB: The contact details provided by the SFA to CFC Plc were for the Club Licensing & Financial Fair Play section of UEFA and not the CFCB.

These questions will be raised with relevant UEFA authorities (copied to Celtic and the SFA to consider) by the solicitors acting on behalf of shareholders by the end of July to allow for the intervening holiday period now upon us.

When the CFCB are in possession of our concerns Resolution 12 will have run its course as far as the representatives of the signatories to Res12 can take the matter without Celtic’s committed involvement to seek reform of the SFA and introduce greater transparency and accountability based on events since 2011. 

And so, thats whats next.

The solicitors have decided, and not without good reason, that the SFA are bloody useless, and won’t come out from under the table to deal with the issue.

So then its onto UEFA.

Thats my interpretation, and of course , as it was a Friday night, I waited until a couple of our pish stained sources were well and truly pish stained, and then asked a few questions myself….

 

You’ll notice I’ve used a headline that implies a visit to the Court of Arbitration for Sport.

What is the Court of Arbitration for Sport?

The Court of Arbitration for Sport is a body or institution which is independent of any sporting body or organisation meaning that it has no connection to any of the large sporting governing bodies such as FIFA or the Rugby Football Union (RFU).

It was first created in 1984 and in relation to the administrative and financial side it is placed under the authority of the International Council of Arbitration for Sport (ICAS).

What is the primary function of the Court of Arbitration for Sport?

The primary function of the CAS is to provide services in order to facilitate the settlement of sports related disputes either through arbitration or through mediation.

The case undertakes this function trough the establishment of procedural rules which have been adapted to fit in with the specific needs of the sports world.

This is a very long road for the Resolution 12 guys, and even now they don’t know how far along it they are, or where it will end up.  But they are still on it, and moving forward, even if sometimes they have to stop and have a chat over  a coffee.

What is disappointing from where I am sitting is that the club, that’s Celtic, to you and me, are not giving any indication, despite early encouragement, that they are willing to get involved.

For instance, the new entity are about to visit Celtic Park for the first ever league fixture between the two, and although we’ve heard the match programme will refer to this, I’m not so sure any more.

A recent youth fixture between the two clubs had a wee competition within the pages of its own matchday magazine, which asked how many times the clubs had met, and one of our readers, Lennon CSC tarrier carrier pilot Chrisbhoy , was enraged to find out the answer was in the four hundreds…

Mind you , he’s usually angry about something, or someone. Usually me , to be fair, as it takes me ages to get out fo the pub when its time to head back south.

This may be a small point, but its one of those little points that, when they go unnoticed, grow into bigger issues, which in turn hide the truth as its felt nobody cares anyway.

The UEFA new club ruling is important. Anyone who tries to sell or market the first game as an Old Firm game is actually guilty of misleading advertising.

Fair enough, Celtic have dropped the OF tag, but must now take it further, and release their own statement.

And heres the tricky bit.

We’re all clamouring for a statement, but what do we actually want them to say ?

Rangers are dead ?

We already know that

The SFA are cheats ?

We already know that as well, but this is where the problem lies.

What do we want them to say ?

What would make us feel that finally, the club is going to get off its collective corporate arse and do something thats right ?

We know that we were cheated.

We know who cheated us, and why.

Therefore the club must know as well.

Therefore t’s not really about what they are going to say.

It’s about what they are going to do.

If the board are happy to lie back and have their tummy tickled, then they have absolutely no right, no right whatsoever, to have the words “director, Celtic Football club “, anywhere near their name. 

Not one of them deserves to be in the same room where reside  the spirits of men like Robert Kelly and  Fergus McCann.

Robert Kelly refused to take down the Irish tricolour when the SFA told him to.

The current lot would have taken it down, wrapped it up and hidden it under the bed. And told the support to do the same thing.

Fergus McCann went after the SFA over the Jorge Cadete delayed registration fiasco, and it lead to the resignation of Jim Farry, the  SFA chief at the time.

This lot would have let that go, signed some non entity from the back of nowhere and told us he was the next best thing.

The current board of directors, lazy  at best or wilfully negligent at worst, have no choice but to act.

The guys have tried to get answers, now its the clubs turn.

Hey, they could even work together.

They need to say what they are going to do-one way or another-and then go and do it.

It would be far easier to do that now, than to have to await until it goes to CAS, because, according to some drunk I spoke to last night, thats where it will end up.

Resolution 12 is not going away.

In fact, those involved have a clear idea of exactly where it is going.

 

 

Shall we lighten the mood a little now ?

Well, we can’t….it gets worse…

Celtic face Maribor tonight in the final game of the pre season tour, and there may be trouble ahead…

We heard that Ronny Deila is heading to the game, which could turn into a grudge match against the side that started his slide into unemployment, and he could be out to cause trouble….

We put the question to Summer Harl, the presenter / producer from Celtic TV, and we have to say she’s refused to deny it….

Proper grudge match. Is it true Ronny Deila is going to the game, getting drunk and starting bother? 

 

The players have appeared to take to the new training regime, and there is little chance that they will be bullied on the pitch this year after this extremely physical work out, which we are told is some form of mixed martial arts session…

And sometimes you just have to stand back and admire someones , er, courage and dedication. Not balls. That would have given the sentence an entirely different meaning.

Celtic fan living in Montenegro, here.No plans for this Sat so will be driving 800km to watch Celtic in Maribor.C’mon the Hoops!

A support like no other.

Transfer news ?

Er, no.

Just that there will be some movement soon.

Two in, just the details to sort, and there was never any chance of them even being considered for Tuesday game anyway, so stop fretting about it.

Yesrdays caption, and a comment about the ferocity of the French Army, which probably should be allowed, but made me laugh

French colonial `gendarme´ killed in Argelia.

 

connolly’s chair July 8, 2016 at 5:39 pm · Edit · Reply →

De Gaulle hides behind car as his generals meekly surrender to whoever happened to be passing by. 

 

Today, can you raise a grin after studying this image ?

1953- Officer directs engineer of a French midget submarine by hand phone as he maneuvers it up to pier at the naval air station in San Diego.

 

 

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Monti
7 years ago

Caption: Lord Louis Mountbatten on a trial run?

Corktim
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

They told me it was Semtex proof.

7 years ago

Great piece.

My own reflections on the Res 12 update were largely about the need for the club to say something – ANYTHING – to reassure us all that they are taking an interest in this matter and WILL step up if and when required. I am not yet hugely confident about it.

https://theclumpany.wordpress.com/2016/07/08/the-resolution-12-update/

I’m curious about the suggestion regarding CAS. What issue or issues could they be asked to rule upon?

Keep up the good work!

7 years ago

I admire the dedication of those involved but without the support of the club to support the fans and shareholders, I expect it to advance little. UEFA will not want to punish a member association because of the actions of supporters groups. That would set a precedent. It does not matter how good the case is. UEFA are a very corrupt organisation and are engaged in as many cover-ups as FIFA. It may have been different if Celtic were remotely interested but they want it to go away so that we can get back to sharing Scottish football with the dead club. The bosses At Celtic Park do consider us to be the other cheek of the Old zfirm arse unfortunately. The worst culprit is DD who has gone out of his way to support the survival myth on the one day a year he shows up in Scotland to play golf. He is as much a Celtic supporter as Maurice Johnstone really was. Good UEFA recognise them as a new club but even that means little as the narrative has been written and to all intents and purposes we have even recognised them as the same club. The unseemly scramble for tickets for the semi-final showed what Celtic supporters fel deep down. Couldn’t get 15,000 to the Morton game yet ‘supporters’ who hadn’t been near the ground all season were desperate to get to Hampden to sing YNRA more at them. Very strange.

schoosh71
7 years ago

The truth of the matter is that RFC Plc (IL) should ‘NOT’ have been given a Euro license this millennium, as the Wee Tax Case was due from 1999. Just because RFC Plc (IL) ‘HID’ what was due to HMRC doesn’t mean it hadn’t crystalised. It is ‘NOT’ HMRC responsibility to fill in the proper tax returns of any company, this was ‘blatant’ Tax Evasion and cheating in every game that the 3 DOS EBT recipient took to the field. Why didn’t the resolutioner make more of an issue as regards to the where the Wee Tax case originated from. FCUK 2011, they cheated every team they played against, domestically and abroad for over a decade and this is seen as a ‘victory’. Pffft HH

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  schoosh71

Schoosh,
Correct!

Tim Buffy
7 years ago

Isn’t using the picture of a gendarme who has just been killed for a frivolous caption competition a bit off?

Uralius
7 years ago
Reply to  Tim Buffy

That was yesterday’s caption competition and the time to complain about that Was also yesterday. Furthermore how dare you imply or state the caption competition is frivolous!

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  Tim Buffy

Tim,
No.

Uralius
7 years ago

Capption: Well that’s me finished up here, I can see my seamen are ready to dive down there.

Uralius
7 years ago

Caption: An old Celtic fan spots a “rangers” submarine searching for any war chest. If only he had his scuba gear he could’ve knocked on the hatch while they were under water.

Devoy45
7 years ago

Caption: “Jeremy, I know we wanted to get rid of Trident but do you think this is a good alternative…?”
Caption: “Admiral Barse-Ackwards demonstrates our latest nuclear deterrent…”
Caption: “Putin, be afraid, very afraid…”
Caption:”The Admiralty demonstrates its new penis extensions…”
Cption:”Doctor, I don’t think Viagra was such a good idea…”
Caption: “Remember the wee submarines we used to get in Corn Flakes boxes as a wean…”
Caption: “Captain Ahab should have gone to Specsavers…!
Resolution 12? Corrupt SFA. Corrupt UEFA. Corrupt Fifa. Sometimes its only possible to protest in order to serve the interests of truth. We’ve stated our case well. The rest is up to Celtic’s powers that be (help ma boab, jings crivvens)

Uralius
7 years ago

Caption: What’s big, hard and full of Semen? Ibrokes.

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

Margaret Thatcher?

Uralius
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

lmao

Uralius
7 years ago

Caption: Mark Warburton is finally satisfied with the solution to fix that 1 inch of water in the bottom of his submarine. He stares on with pride as Joey Barton drills the hole to let the water out.

7 years ago

Tory parasite’s whose loyalty is to the British monarchy same as their Hun Masonic mates,fleecing Celtic fans while doing nothing about Hun cheating, tax dodging and same club nonesens.celtic Plc are shameless parasites who wouldn’t be near Celtic if they had contribute

mike
7 years ago

If it seems to me that if the club will do nothing to support the Res 12 bhoys,then the game in Scotia is fucked.
WE all know that they are a new entity (despite the flaff) We know they cheated and they know we know.WE know that the SFA collaborated in the cover up and here we are some 4 years down the road and no further forward (except that UEFA now acknowledge that they are a new club.)How much longer do we have to wait to get justice?This will not go away,no matter what the Board and the SFA think.There MUST be a way forward,perhaps by demonstrating or by any other legal way to make the Board aware that the support will not accept this.Are the support interested enough or not?
Either way I wish to add my sincere thank you to the Res 12 bhoys for their dedication and hard work on all our behalf.

john young
7 years ago
Reply to  mike

We have more to be cworrying about than der hun we need get rid of a dozen players at least.

2bhoys1ghirl
7 years ago

Caption comp:

“He was beginning to regret ordering that XXXL penis enlargement device”

Macca
7 years ago

Sadly we’ll here nothing from the club as I suspect big Peter was in on it at the time

Macca
7 years ago

btw, sad to see the players are now wearing blue to training as well. WTF!

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  Macca

It’s not blue….

Bhoy 67
7 years ago

Caption; Sevco’s new super sub.

Oztim67
7 years ago

Caption: After the first big rainy day hits a dilapidated Ibrokes, the referee has to use transport to get to the centre circle.

Monti
7 years ago

Would like to know why James Forrest, Tom Rogic and Charlie Mulgrew are not contractually sorted yet?
I see Ambrose is still here…..

FredCDobbs
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

maybe we are replacing them with footballers

Cartvale88
7 years ago

Caption ‘ Desmond’s plan to torpedo Resolution 12’

charlie
7 years ago

caption due to cutbacks britania now only rules the waves of hogganfield loch

charlie
7 years ago

the celtic board should make a statement saying the zombies should be banned sine die for being scummy cheating bastards for the good of scottish football of course

TONY CARLIN
7 years ago

Haw You bawbag, when I sent you for a Sub, i wanted an overpriced piece n ham!

mike
7 years ago

Last night I wis feelin low,I put a smile on the wifeys face and turned my attention to my other love the Tic.I remembered that I was part of the Tic family and my mood changed.I remembered that the Board was not and never will be the great Institution that is Celtic,cos WE the support are what Celtic are all about,we and our predessers,the true stories that we read about last week in the diary encapsulates what Celtic are.That put a big smile on my pus and I went to sleep a very,very happy TIM.

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  mike

🙂

Hugh67
7 years ago

Good interpretation of the Res12 statement.
The real issues raised by Res12 will need to continue but we finally have an official UEFA statement confirming that The “Rangers” are a new club. With your PR skills, what possible argument could anyone mount against that UEFA statement?

Caption. I think I saw this picture in the Greenock Tele. I think it was some PR guy from England making his way to Dunoon having missed the last ferry.

Monti
7 years ago

Caption: Horatio Hornblower leaves Dundee, bitterly disappointed not to have located any cleaning products or locals with more than two teeth in their pus.

Ken.

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Oh a life on the ocean sea is the only life for me.

Caption, Montis static isny static any mair.

Jimbo
7 years ago

“Critics, and there have been a few, are asking for publication of the official UEFA document, but that isn’t going to happen”

That statement tells you all you need to know about the validity of that blog.

As for Hugh67 remarks what official statement are you referring to some blogs that all say the same thing but can’t back it up with one single bit of evidence.

I’m sure if this “letter” was real it would be all over the net by now.

Oh and BTW here is what Uefa says on Rangers..http://www.uefa.com/teamsandplayers/teams/club=50121/domestic/

Half_Fool
7 years ago
Reply to  Jimbo

Away back to follow follow jimbo.

It is pretty disappointing UEFA haven’t updated their website, to reflect the truth of the matter though.

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  Half_Fool

Thinking about that, the old co are currently going thru the liquidiser,technically squinty could still pay off the creditors.HAHA.HA.Sooo they canny remove it till they are Officially deid.

Uralius
7 years ago

The board will never have a go, and the reason I see is let’s suppose that the SFA wanted to shaft Celtic; all they would need to do is not give us a UEFA license. Sure there would be an investigation, sure they would be shafting themselves, but it would take years to get sorted out and the SFA didn’t have the ability to party is what we would have lost. So in the good old fashion Scottish way. We write a letter to Long Shanks saying how bad the uprising is, all the while supporting it with the clans living on our lands in the North.

Uralius
7 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

*pay us what we lost

charlie
7 years ago

the huns are fuckin deid the huns are fuckin deid eeaye adio the huns are fuckin deid eufa better moniter thier mail the knuckledraggers willl be plotting

Elcormaco
7 years ago

Caption: As Captain Mc Coist comes into view on the Clyde he has a message for his detractors: “who’s the fucking weapon now ye bams”

On resolution 12,well done to Auldheid & team on pursuing it this far. The press will ignore it, *rangers will ignore it, the SFA will ignore it but the fight should go on, and the target not missed – the SFA. It’s a nice wee bonus the new club confirmation, but that was never the goal. It was always about challenging the poor oversight & governance at the heart of Scottish football. While *rangers are dead those in charge of the game are still exactly the same people and so the battle is still live. What the res 12 guys seem to be saying is that the case is there to be answered as far as uefa are concerned but they need Celtic to become active more to move it forward. Over to you Peter.

jebus
7 years ago

Caption

“matt crooks hat has disguised him from the sub crew”

7 years ago

Statistically the French army are the most successville ever..mind you stats also state Shota was a better striker than Henrik so how shite are statistics.

Regan and Doncaster must laugh their heads off at running such a self serving show..they know they just have to play one side against the other and step off stage and back into the shadows. Its needs co-ordinated effort across the football club biard to get rid of them but too many clubs have dire need for status quo so the boat remains unrocked..which ties in with caption competition

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  desimond

Ask Charlie Saiz 🙂

Peace Frog
7 years ago

Robert Kelly doesn’t deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Fergus, him and his family are charlatans. He probably started the tricolour issue to gain good grace, a snake of a man. Thousands outside Paradise to chant for his removal, he got lucky with Jock and stopped picking the team by coercion, horrible individual!

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  Peace Frog

Peace frog,
” a snake of a man “?
Fuck off back to the bears den, silly Billy!

Sir Robert wasn’t to everyone’s liking and I certainly didn’t like to read ( it was before my time) that he influenced team selection, something big Jock put an end to.

Bob Kelly stood up to the bigots, the Catholic haters and the Irish haters, not to mention the Celtic haters, he told the SFA to fuck off, the flag stays!!

Respect to him for that, he did us andvthe club a good turn with that!

As for Fergus?……..another day.

Tal.

andybhoy
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

M. He wasn’t a particularly nice character as my late father would often remark and that was from a man who would rarely if ever say a bad word about anyone.

m1kks
7 years ago

Caption,

After Rangers were sunk in 2012, Rangers international emerge from the depths of lower league football!

hancock
7 years ago

GASL floats in looking for a bigger sub

rebus67
7 years ago

Ralph,

I also was a little disappointed with the update on Res 12. Perhaps it was over hyped by CQN. However, that disappointment does not detract from my admiration for of the guys behind the effort. I hope they persevere in the future.

One thing that I took from the UEFA response and the first 5 points in particular, is that UEFA are clearly laying out responsibilities during the licencing process. Namely, the SFA are responsible for assessing and monitoring, not UEFA. The issue that arises from that is did they(the SFA) exercise due diligence in these efforts? Perhaps the Res 12 guys are pursuing this in their follow-up. The UEFA response indicates who will carry the can if due process was not applied. So, maybe this is just step 1 of future action.

I do not wish to devalue the efforts of the Res12 guys, but, for me, the real issue is the cheating over a prolonged period through the use of EBT and DOS schemes to provide unfair sporting advantage. If the powers that be will not take on the licencing issue, what hope is there that they will tackle this much bigger issue, stretching over many years and affecting many clubs(domestic and international)? Remember this whole thing erupted not through the sporting world but through finances and taxation. I have little faith that the sporting world will truly deal with this problem, but I am encouraged that it was taxation that brought Al Capone down ultimately.

Rebus

andybhoy
7 years ago

Caption….Captain Ralph makes his way over to Dunoon whilst karaoking some rebs music on the morning of the 24th July.

mike
7 years ago

Ralphy is right what we learned yesterday was just a foreword,there is more to come,so we hope that our heroes the RES12 bhoys keep on keeping on.

We are still Celtic and that will never change,we can hold our heads up and remember that the club has always paid its debts and has IMHO kept the lights on for the good of the whole of Scottish fitba, in very challenging times.
Caption,Huns remember,shite floats and so does boats.

rebus67
7 years ago

At HT it is Maribor 0 Celtic 0 in a training session. Johansen off injured. The ref is a homer and is calling all contact by Celtic players. He is letting fouls on Celtic go. Few chances by either side. The best fell to Johansen who fluffed his shot from the centre of the area. Brown is slow and there will be serious concerns if he plays like this in competitive games. Biton is also slow so there is little attacking play in the final third. Christie is active but the front three are not, as yet, gelling. Dembele is starved of service and Griff was kicked in the ankle early on so he is watching out for himself.

Rebus

Delbhoy
7 years ago

This game is shite . The slow brown biton defensive partnership is killing me , ive only enjoyed the second half of the games when rogic allan and others come on to give us movement. The teams allover the place up front to

Delbhoy
7 years ago

Delia played this midfield three and was villified for it, rodgers is still doing it , what the fuck did he no watch these three last year and the games so far have done nothing to change my mind

Monti
7 years ago

Maribor 0 Celtic 0

Not much of a game but another good run out for the Bhoys, the real action starts on Tuesday.

HH

rebus67
7 years ago

Game over at 0-0. Better second half from Celtic after Forrest, Roberts and Rogic came on. Cifcti looks immobile and we need better. Ajer played well. O’Connell defended well but cannot pass out of defence. Izzy was effective and Lustig was hardly in the game because we attacked down the left. Armstrong looked good in central mid and McGregor is a better bet than Brown at this stage.
It is important to hang on to Rogic is bridges the gap between midfield and attack. Roberts not up to his tricky best yet but maybe it is a fitness thing.

Difficult to judge the team(s) on these games as they lack a competitive edge. Tuesday is what matters.

Still two wins and two draws away from home…not bad.

Rebus

Cartvale88
7 years ago

Not a great performance, at one stage I thought Delilah had picked the team.
Cumbersome and slow, picked up when the second team came on Forrest and Rogic looked good

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  Cartvale88

Cartvale,
So if we beat Maribor 0-3 tonight would that make the rest of Europe sit up and take notice?

Delbhoy
7 years ago

Agree with cartvale , slow, disorganised and out of position like forrest on the left where he cant cross and has to cut inside to use his left foot. A forty goal striker shunted to the wing where hes innafective, if this was delia we would be going off our heads. If hes putting his faith in brown an biton we will have problems. Not good tonight

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  Delbhoy

Delbhoy,
I think you are looking too deeply into early Pre-season performance and results m8.
The team shape will come as will the goals, the most important thing at the moment is getting players out on the pitch and moving their arses.
It’s all about match fitness at this stage.

Keep the faith my man! HH

Delbhoy
7 years ago

Monti fair enough but you have to have some organisation and tempo, its clear he sees brown biton and johansen as his first picks , if your telling me rogic armstrong allan and mcgreggor even all arent better than these three who have done fuck all for two year then he must not have watched last seasons games. Griffiths is never gona be effective out wide so if you want to play dembele it has to be in a 4 4 2 . Just has the look to me of trying to shoehorn players in when they should just be played in there true positions, this modern management of players playing on opposite sides from what they kick does my box in you didnt see ferguson playing giggs on the right and beckham on the left

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  Delbhoy

Definitely agree about wide players not playing on their natural side, I think GMS could provide a solution on the left side.
Brendan is just tinkering m8, and to be fair, friendlies are the time to be doing that.

Monti
7 years ago

I see Tavernier and Waghorn have knocked the offer of a new deal back?
I think both of them are shite anyway…..

Delbhoy
7 years ago

True monti i like gms hes got a lot to prove but certainly a talent

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  Delbhoy

The lad needs game time and confidence, Brendan will hopefully provide him with both m8!
Brendan knows what is required at Celtic, he won’t settle for mediocrity!

bgbhoy
7 years ago

i find all the negative chat over pre season games rather hilarious…. half of the people here where still backing deila up until christmas and buying into the grand-plan that was never there… lets give the manager a chance to show us in some competitive football no?

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

I didn’t have a problem with Deila 🙂

Uralius
7 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

Learned my lesson. Rodgers out!

Uralius
7 years ago

Watched 22min of this crap. Worst fears being realized so far. It’s like watching Celtic under Ronny Deila.

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

Nonsense!

Uralius
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

I wrote a reply, but it’s gone

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

Uralius,
It is just daft to be moaning about pre-season friendlies, that’s my point.

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Hardly suprising when you remember who signed these players,step forward Big Pete.

Uralius
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Watching the “2nd string” of players now prefer that style of play. I just want to see this flocking slow down square passing crap stop. I want to see better play in the final 3rd. Hopefully it happens now.

Uralius
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Monti, I mostly agree with your point, but even in pre-season Lubo would have sparked a moment of brilliance. Guppy would would have taken a touch and crossed on a 2 pence piece. Jinks would have made a scintillating run. There is no spark. It’s good to see the fight back, but there is no quick direct play and there is no evidence of any of those players displaying a moment of brilliance that can cause a parked bus team to open up like knocking on the hatch of that submarine. I don’t watch football to be bored. I watch it to feel a wash off different emotions over 90min. A 4 day test would be more exciting than what I just watched.

Uralius
7 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

I said “so far,” only 22 mins in. Now I am 34min in. Bugger all chances maybe 2 no penetration, lack of creativity, too slow build up and no answer at all for a parked bus.

Monti
7 years ago

Celtic XI for the Imps game.

4-4-2

Gordon

Janko
Sviatchenko
Ajer
Tierney

Forrest RM
Brown
Rogic
Roberts LM

Griffiths
Dembele

Half_Fool
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Not a bad shout Monti, but I’d be surprised if BR doesn’t go for the 4-3-3.

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  Half_Fool

Correcto, Gordon.
Lustig, Sviat. Ajer. Tierny.

Brown. Rogic. McGregor.

Roberts. Dembelle. Griff.

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Alternatively
3-4-3

Gordon

Lustig
Sviatchenko
Ajer

Janko
Brown
Bitton
Tierney

Griffiths
Dembele
Roberts

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Alternatively
4-4-1-1

Gordon

Janko
Sviatchenko
Lustig
Tierney

Forrest
Brown
Bitton
Roberts

Dembele

Griffiths

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Alternatively
3-5-2

Gordon

Lustig
Sviatchenko
Ajer

Janko rwb

Brown
Bitton

Tierney (lwb)

Armstrong AM

Dembele
Griffiths

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