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Celtic Diary Tuesday April 19: Deila To Go In The Summer

Perhaps not the most surprising news you’ll hear today, or any other day, but norwegian TV broke the story last night. With the help of google translate, if help is the correct word, here’s a bit of it;

At least , I think it’s google translate. Gibberish like that is symptomatic of our own media, and it makes me wonder exactly who the two journalists credited with the story are, as they go by the names of Kristoffer Jack and Matts Lindsay.

Nah, not really. It’s way above their capabilities.

So, thats that then.

What promised to be a new wave of ideas under a man set to make his mark not only in Scotland but on the world stage,  crashed and burned on the slopes of Hampden, and we can all look forward to a new manager with, er, new ideas and making his mark on the world stage etc…

What went wrong ?

One thing in particular ? A number of issues ?

Well, let me put forward an idea as to not only where it went wrong, but suggest that it isn’t going to get any better.

If you check the old diaries, you’ll note that when Ronny arrived, it didn’t take long for the scales to fall from my eyes, and I ploughed a fairly lonely furrow in criticising him. However, after the six goal thrashing of Dundee Utd last season that I began to think there might be something to this guy.

Turns out there wasn’t, so I was right all along. Such revisionism may make me a candidate for Editor in Chief of a couple of national newspapers, but thats true.

Repeatedly, I would claim that Deila was allowing the tail to wag the dog, from the appointment of his assistants to the favourable treatment of one or two of the players.

His initial confidence and strength would have taken a hammer blow when Jo Inge Berget failed miserably in an early qualifier, although latterly it was proved he isn’t a bad player after all, but he’d driven the first nail into Deila’s coffin.

After that, the world queued up to put their own alongside it.

If it is that certain players do not want to play for him, or that he doesn’t want to play them, perhaps the reason is a little more obvious than we think.

The system employed by Celtic’s Recruitment Office leads to a list of players being handed over to the “scouts ” when a particular position needs strengthening.

This list is open to a handful of agents, who put together a cv extolling the virtues of their man.

Thats how we go shopping these days, and thats why we’ve ended up with so much crap. Players are not watched , they are not sounded out, and very little is known about their personalities, which is bizarre, considering the financial investment and the fact that they will be expected to slot into a squad of players who should be looking out for each other.

So, when they get here, they will know the manager doesn’t really want them, and they , in turn, will decide that they need to do little else other than turn up for training and put in the odd decent shift on the park.

This system has been in place for a number of years, and if you thought Ronny suffered, look at the dross Strachan had to put up with…

Or Neil Lennon…

Do you honestly think either of those managers did a little dance around his office when he found out any of those players had agreed to come ?

Do you think any of those players were over the moon at coming to Celtic ?

Genuinely, I’d forgotten all about at least half of them. Yet at the time they were the next big thing, or the experience required to help the youngsters along.

Had Southampton not had a hot line to Celtic Park, and more money than sense, we could have been in real trouble.

Sure, we had the Ledley’s, the Ki’s, the Hooper’s and the Southampton lads, but had the south coast side looked closely at how Hooiveld-remember him, and Fox performed ( who ? ) , we’d have been lucky to even hear from them again.

The point is, the duff signings, most airbrushed out of history now, far outweigh the diamonds.

And unless this is sorted, and the whole system scrapped and returned to the simple but exhaustive way where someone watches a player, reccommends him and then the manager watches him, next season, no matter who is in charge, will be pretty much like last season.

Don’t forget, we went into this seasons champions league qualifiers with a front line from Dundee Utd. We then supplemented Leigh Griffiths with Carlton Cole and Colin Kazim richards, having sent Nadir Ciftci out on loan, along woith Anthony Stokes and Stefan Scepovic.

Ciftci was on the bench the night before he went out to Turkey. There is no way the manager knew about that move before it happened.

Those of us who think we could win the league with this squad have to realise that its not just about picking eleven players and shouting at them.

Management is far more complicated than that. Has a player fell out with his wife ? Is one of the kids ill ? Does he drink too much in the house, or spend a little too much time at the on line bookies ?

How will he interact with other players ? Will his family move house with him ? Is he loud in the dressing room and quiet on the pitch ? Or vice versa ? What if he has been a bit naughty and is being blackmailed by local thugs ? ( Has happened )

When you have a thirty or forty of them, its a nightmare.

When Deila goes, someone else will take up the reins. his first job will be to find out what went wrong for his predecessor , his second will be to make sure it doesn’t happen to him.

 

Am I the only one to feel a little sad it’s over ?

Probably, he’s been let down by the board, the players and even the support at times . Who can blame him for thinking “fuck it ”

The tactical disaster that was Sunday’s game is bewildering. Why would he try to contain a side from a league below him ?

Did he, like Mowbray before him, start to believe the guff written about them-and his own ability- in the papers ?

Again , that comes down to someone else at Celtic Park not doing their job properly. Like the inept scouts, the PR guy needs to shoulder responsibility for allowing Deila to face a hostile press without taking control of the situation.

John Collins should have known, and advised strongly against this holding game. He knew the support would not accept it. Is he hoping to step into the Norwegians shoes ? Was it sabotage ?

And the senior players, of whom only charlie mulgrew is reported to be onside with the manager, should hang their heads in shame. they have let him down as well.

As pointed out in the replies yesterday, where were they when teenager Patrick Roberts missed his sitter ? Who was on hand to pick him up and put him right ?

No-one.

Scott Brown stepped up for a penalty kick that would have put the “rangers ” under severe pressure. He passed it back to the keeper.

Perhaps there are a number of youngsters in the squad, signed and chosen by Deila, such as Armstrong, Christie , Allan et al who feel let down. If Deila has sold them the dream and not allowed them to dream it, then they are right to feel that way.

It doesn’t make sense for him to purchase players he feels could play his way and not play them. Maybe he rebelled against the agent franchise system, and chose his own players.

But then again, why not play them ?

Did he feel that it’s better to go with the old guard for the rest of the season, and then start anew ? Or was he advised differently.

The Colllins Deila partnership did not work, it was never going to work. Collins has an ego. Number two’s should not have an ego, but be diligent, hard working and loyal.

It’s too late now to change things. Deila will go, Collins will be back on our television screens, and john Kennedy will be given another job lower down the line.

But nothing will change unless a radical overhaul of everything else at the club follows as well.

Its not just about the people at the club, its about the policy makers. They have got it wrong.

 

 

Elsewhere, we hear Brendan Rodgers has been approached to take over, but thats more to indirectly inform Neil Lennon that there is no chance he’s coming back, as he still hasn’t taken the hint.

Rodgers, who according to the football management book I looked at, sits eighteen year old players in front of a board to explain to them how much money they will make.

No thanks, we’re sick of mercenary players.

Moyes, Keane, Mackay, Coyle, Hughes…..the uninspiring list goes on.

Lambert, Martinez, Calderwood, Buthcher, …okay, i’m being silly now.

It doesn’t matter who we get, other things need to change, or else we’ll be sitting here next season saying the same thing.

The Deila Express wasn’t derailed by Deila, it was the others who put blocks of wood ahead of him on the tracks.

 

which leads me to a caption competiton, in a vain hope to at least start to smile some time this week.

And i’ll leave you with these words of wisdom, from Ryan Howard, on twitter, who had some words of advice for Deila…

If Ronny wants to earn some respect before he goes he should show his true feelings and punch fuck outta John Collins in the centre circle  

I just hope we don’t run into his new club in the qualifiers.

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charlie
8 years ago

the players looked as if they were only doing enough to get over the line on sunday and if you do that it can bite you on the arse

FredCDobbs
8 years ago
Reply to  charlie

This guy was fucking shit. why cant he fuck off NOW!!!!!

charlie
8 years ago

caption lawell says cmon ronny drink up the bonuses urny based on fitba results

Portbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  charlie

Some more poison for your chalice Ronnie?

Tony Paterson
8 years ago

“That’s it Ronny, a lovely glass of Coolade to forget all about it…”

(“When he turns his back, I’m going to slip this right back under Pedro’s spineless, ambitionless, Sevco-loving, spiv nose”).

Cheers Ronny. See ye later.

mike
8 years ago

How can you feel sorry for someone who earns more in a week than most of the support earn in a year,it is them that i simphasise with,they pay good money to watch shite.They are as loyal as can be and deserve the very, very best,not the shite they have been watching,yes i am still angry and still hurting just like the rest of them.
The Board have let these wonderful people down,fuck them all.
I hope Ralph that your father is getting better,please pass on our good wishes and a Massive Hail, Hail to the auld Tims,to Pensionerbhoy,Devoy,Ayr Celt.Tom Campbell,Tom O Neil(The Tom Toms) and apologies to anyone i missed out,i salute you all for your dignity,loyalty,compassion and experience,mucho,mucho respect.I canny wait till i am 69 (Woof Woof).
Charlie fair play to ya.
Lets get no5 oot the way,done and dusted and support the team to seasons end.
Caption, Fuck Off.

jimmybee
8 years ago

Sorry Ralph,but I don’t have sympathy what so ever. He choose to play with one striker hence we sent the rest out on loan.
Our most creative player cant get a game. Our best right winger cant get a game. Our second top scorer out on loan. Our best centre back fit but a sub on Sunday. Bottled it every time he needed a win. I thought he was only joking when he said they trained as if they were down to 10 men.Thats exactly how they played.
Sympathy went out the window after Malmo much later than Monti I know,but that’s when I knew he wasn’t up to it. He should have been gone then.
You also make reference to Mowbrays team against them,I don’t know if you remember,but Mowbrays team played them off the park home and away that season only to be thwarted by the usual honest mistakes.The last game against them with Mowbray at Celtic park was 1-1. It was the luckiest 1-1 they ever had even the cardigan admitted.
No Mowbray tried to play attacking football.so please don’t compare this clown to someone who at least had a go at Rangers.
Sunday was shamefull.East Kilbride was embarrassing as has been most of the performances under him.
He has for me been the worst team to watch in my 50 years going to paradise,given the resources he has had available.
If decisions were made out his control,he should have got his jacket and walked.
The same as Wim done after stopping the 10.
So he was quite happy to keep it going knowing what was going on. So fuck him. He should be away now not in 5 weeks time,the fans wont forgive Sundays performance.
They need to play new blood now.

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

Well said jimmybee, my sentiments exactly, though I could be a lot harsher.

maryhillbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

Jimmybee very fair and honest assessment if perhaps a little on the kind side he has to go now how can he (if he s leaking tales of quitting back in Norway) prepare a team for the rest of the season its a fk joke but its not funny

elcormaco
8 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

Spot on.

deadhead67
8 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

blaming the board is nonsense,the only thing they done wrong was appointing a nobody in the first place,he was found out against Legia,should have been punted after that mess

Rudebhoy
8 years ago

Ronnie I’m going to pour you a glass of my very own bottled urine. Will you drink it? Eh OK boss. Yes.

Mike Annis
8 years ago

I do think a bit of revisionism is going on. From my memory, feeble and aged as it is, you were far more supportive of Ronnie than many of us. In fact ai seem to remember you being taken to task by comments as being a bit blind to his obvious weaknesses….the fact that he was crap. But whichever path we take we end up at our destination together. No to get shot of the Board….not that a new one would be different. These guys inhabit a different world to us ordinary punters.

schoosh71
8 years ago

The SMSM have been saying he was getting sacked for the last 18 months and bloggers right alond aside them. He’s still here.

If he does go, I’m not afraid to say Peter should be following him. The club is being run in a fashion that guarantees his bonus, as he still receives no matter what, as it does appear, it’s not related to on-field success.

I personally don’t want him sacked, he is half way through an experiment to see if the club can produce champion league quality players. Looking at young KT points to the fact, the club is doing something right.

Yes fans are hurting and some are scared of ‘Der Hun’, but he should be given another season and be allowed to bring in his own backroom staff.

If not I’d ask him to work his final year at the academy to make sure that he leaves a legacy with player development and professionalism, that will serve us throughout this century.

only my opinion. HH

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  schoosh71

Wow! you must be kidding. This guys legacy was there, right in front of your eyes on Sunday.

mike
8 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

Ha.Ha.you must be at the wind up.

franko
8 years ago
Reply to  schoosh71

Schoosh I think you are a lone voice on that one. There would be a terrifying drop in season ticket renewals if RD stays next season. Even had we won on Sunday, there would have been absolutely no way he would have stayed beyond this season.

Morto
8 years ago
Reply to  franko

There will be a terrifying drop anyway no matter who’s running the show.

maryhillbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Morto

Why> the main reason people don’t want to go is the complete rubbish being served up by Ronnie remove him and a large part f the problem goes even more so if it signifies a change of direction.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  schoosh71

That would be perhaps the sensible thing to do Scoosh but I think the horse has now bolted and the Board are going to act/deflect.
This transition was never going to be easy,it was never going to be without it’s problems and was always going to require alot of patience from the support.
It is fairly obvious to me anyway a great many do not possess any modicum patience when it comes to Celtic.
I personally believe he’s had far too many plates to spin this Season.
The loss of the central pairing
The rake of injuries in defence
The lack of form of so many key players
Has mad an already difficult job that much harder.
As a result the plans went out the window as results took precedence over performance.
Deila was hamstrung by the appointment of Collins and Kennedy he needed his own man in there.
He has been hamstrung by the reluctance of the Board to buy quality-he’s not the first to experience this of course and will most probably not be the last.
He has also has detractors from the off.
Cunts like Chris Mutton and his ilk who have at every opportunity put the boot in as and when.
There have been a great many within the support who have done likewise especially in places like this.
Some of it warranted of course but much of it not.
Ronny should see out the Season (Paul McStay agrees) and leave with his head held high because throughout he has kept his cool and acted in a manner I would expect from a Celtic boss.
Celtic will be 3 trophies better off for him being here Ronny hopefully will have gained something too.
I personally could not give two fucks what any of you think of that and I dare say neither does he.

Bgbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

You actually sound like one of the undead. But instead of going on about the journey your going on about the transition. You cannot face up to the truth that this man is a fucking dud and in the process has made you look like a clown At the same time . Still blaming the fans I see Charlie. Still blaming the board Charlie. Who the hell do you think you are? Are you a supporters equivalent of Jose or Ferguson? What did 22k Celtic fans on Sunday miss? When is things going to change? When did you last go to a game? You should be fucking ashamed of yourself blaming fans patience. Clown

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Bgbhoy

🙂

Bgbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Big Sutton is a legend of the club. Deila is a donkey. And your making yourself out to be one sad stubborn old fella.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Bgbhoy

Suttons a bell end now and it has absolutely hee haw to do with his playing days.
He’s been at Deila since day 1 week 1.
Fucking hilarious given his own Managerial prowess.
ie wank.

jimmybee
8 years ago

On the scouting thing. Warburton left Brentford for trying to use such a system as well.
Based on stats in the mould of American football Teams or baseball.
It doesn’t work you have to watch players.
Big Billy got suckered with that git from Arsenal cant even mind his name now.Then who can forget Scheidt big Rafael who fuckin reccomended him.
Yes I agree with you there.
Davie hay was the best scout we had.
He gave us Di canio Cadette Pierre he also advised the board to take JStaam for 1,5 mill but of course they said no.
Give Davie Hay the role of Head of Scouting.

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

Martin Hayes.

charlie
8 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

ah a remember him well ha ha

jimmybee
8 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

That’s it Andy fuckin waste of space he was

maryhillbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

Do you remember when they still trained at Barrowfield and Martin Hayes (the Arsenal guy) got a lift up and the other players forgot him and left him sitting in the car right through training ffs

HoudiniBhoy
8 years ago

Caption: “There you go Ronnie, some pish to wash down the shite you’ll be eating come season’s end”

Ps. If Ronny punches Collins out in the centre circle I would back him to stay, especially if he boots a few players up the arse as well starting with Captain Dan Stare.

FredCDobbs
8 years ago
Reply to  HoudiniBhoy

hes never done his job

Tex
8 years ago

Davie Hay with Henrik and Mjallby, Davie being head of scouting and helping out the other two for the first season or two.

Monti
8 years ago

David Moyes!

mike
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Martin O Neil,Director of fitba,with Lenny.

Brian (not the messiah)
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

Brian Kerr

mike
8 years ago

Pepsi Cola.

jrw
8 years ago

I agree with much of this – RD has to go; it didn’t work out for a whole host of reasons. There has certainly been some dire stuff (and to be fair the occasional stirring performance too, but not enough of them and not when it really mattered). Many of the players need to take a look at themselves too. For me the key turning point this season was the Malmo game at home – 2-0 up and coasting, Johansen has a great chance to make it three and misses; it has been mostly down hill from that point on. The end of last season from January to May promised much, but it all proved to be a will o’the wisp. And whoever takes over certainly has to sort out the player scouting and acquistion process as a matter of priority.

deadhead67
8 years ago
Reply to  jrw

just one reason he,s crap

jrw
8 years ago
Reply to  deadhead67

Clearly not being up to the task is one major reason, but it isn’t the only one by any objective assessment.

mcdeeje1
8 years ago

Here you go Ronnie have a drink from the poisoned chalice.I feel sorry for Delia I think he was set up to fail by the board.They should take the blame for this.Collins was a great player for Celtic but history shows he is a selfish self centred individual that looks after number one.HH

torrancetimebomb
8 years ago

ralph,
fuck me, everyones fault bar ronnies,, come on he has the players in his side to win this league, he has the resources to beat malmo or Maribor or ross county or deadco convincingly but we did not beat any of them , he is at fault, he picks the team, he decides the tactics, his job is to motivate, inspire and he has failed in all aspects.
the board are treating us with contempt again by not getting rid of him yesterday, after sundays shambolic display he should have gone

Hector
8 years ago

I don’t have any faith in Lawwell whatsoever and would happily see him chased from Celtic but the dire performances this season against Malmo, Molde and domestically are Ronny’s fault.

He’s the manager with a far bigger budget than those clubs above and his team turned in dire performances week after week. Slow, ponderous rubbish…the exact opposite of what he promised.

maryhillbhoy
8 years ago

EXACTLY

Bgbhoy
8 years ago

Warsaw. Maribor. Malmo. If actions where taken when they should of been then we would probably be on course for our 2nd treble in a row with champions league money. Why so many chose to ignore there own eyes and believe some pipe dream is beyond me. You think we will win the league? Drop to county then it’s Hearts ad Aberdeen! Hmmm.

mike
8 years ago
Reply to  Bgbhoy

You canny make the blind see,next they will be greeting and want a whipround,its the Boards fault.No it was not them who picked the players,or who played a flawed system or change tactics,or could not motivate players.He had a massive superior budget compared to other Scottish clubs,much better players and healthier budget compared to C.L.rivals.This one is down soley to him and his Mentor.

London celtic
8 years ago

I remember fans not wanting o Neill all them yeard ago when he was linked. I was shouting from the roof tops. I feel the same about moyles. It makes sense to bring him in

Hector
8 years ago
Reply to  London celtic

Indeed it does. I remember MON’s Leicester being a big strong well organised team and wanted Hiddink instead. I was wrong, MON was brilliant.

Moyes is cut from the same man-management and ruthless cloth as MON and knows the expectations of the Celtic support.

deadhead67
8 years ago
Reply to  Hector

hiddinck would have been better

andybhoy
8 years ago

Caption….. and for my next trick Ronny, I’m going to shove my hand right up your arse whilst proclaiming ‘gottle of geer, gottle of geer’.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago

The history books will be kinder to Ronny Deila than any currently putting the boot in round Timland.
It will simply read 3 Trophies in 2 years and hopefully 2 Titles in among the famous 10 (should that transpire).
The joy of the internet is we all have a voice an opinion but the reality of the situation is none of what we say makes a blind bit of difference to the situation.
The situation will exist long after Deila has gone btw as it existed before he even arrived,the same situation that created Mowbray,the same situation that ultimately forced Lenny and Mjalby to quit.
The scouting setup is flawed.
The financial approach is flawed
The decision making at Board level is flawed
Unless these issues are fixed then expect more of underwhelming and ultimately frustrating same.
Ronny has had his time I wish him well,he came he tried to install a change and ultimately it has failed.
It happens we move on.
The gradual decline and systematic downsizing from 2003 onwards has finally come home to roost.
We may well have a budget that dwarfs other sides in the Domestic setup but that is more down to poor signings and a scattergun approach to hunting them out.
A squad size that is ridiculously large filled with overpaid mediocrity that is supplemented by the odd bit of talent and youth product coming through.
Whoever comes in has a massive job on their hands now so my guess is (and my hope) they bring in an experienced Manager who has experience in dealing with a side who regularly competes for silverware,who has a reputation for building decent squads and takes no prisoners when it comes to removing dead wood.
I would hope he whoever he is realises that certain senior players at Celtic are no longer producing the levels they once did.
My hope is they also wipe the slate and give the likes of Allan Christie etc a fresh start over the summer and a chance to shine.

bgbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

utter utter drivel charlie

the history books will read ronny deila the only celtic manager to be put out of europe 3 times in a season and the only manager to lose to a lower league ‘rangers’

not the boards fault, its the managers, hes had the bigget budget in the country for 2 years and only won 2 out of 5 trophies so far

lennnon worked under the same conditions and beat barcelona, ronny would struggle to beat bewrick

FredCDobbs
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

ronny would struggle to beat bewrick

and rangers

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

So it’s not the useless ones fault what happens on the pitch and a semi decent manager wouldn’t know how to organise a better level of performance from the squad of players we possess. Is that what you mean CS?

bgbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

response gone missing…. but i thought the days of blaming the ptich, the flavour of juice, washing up fabric and wrong sort of grass had gone with sunday

SCOTLANDS BIGGEST BUDGET!!! is that the boards fault too?

bgbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

decline from 2003? that would be another uefa cup 1/4 final, 3 last 16’s in the ucl, 5 or 6 group stage attempts , 7 league championships and a few cups into the bargain

yes we may not be paying 40grand a week anymore but the tools are there for the job to be done… strachan and lennon both acheived, mogga a disaster and deila the luckiest manager in the history of the club… admit it charlie, he is a dud!!!

8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

phil macg

Rebus67
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Charlie, Charlie,

No excuses. RD is not a first team coach…simple! It was not John Park or PL that selected the tactics for Sunday. Nor was it anyone other than RD thst kept GMS on the park for 70 minutes. Throughout his tenure there have been examples of him setting the team out inappropriately and failing to read a game and make adjustments. These things have nothing to do with anyone else but the manager.
He may have had nothing to do with the signing of CC and CZR etc but he had more than enough good players in place to beat teams that we lost to, including the Sunday embarassment.

He may not lose the league this year but only because Aberdeen cannot win it.

Rebus

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Rebus67

Rebus Rebus those players you mention that is the ones you regard as the better ones have simply not performed this season.
Regardless of who sends them out there if they can’tmanage the basics then he’s onto a loser from the off.
Brown Lustig Bitton Johansen Armstrong Mackay-Steven have all been shite on and off all season.
Chuck in the injuries and hey presto what you have is a very average Celtic side indeed.
We don’t have the quality some of you seem to think we have.
Several are now over the hill and on the slide.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

…and should be following the Management out the door.

bgbhoy
8 years ago

brown, gms, biton, johnasen, boyata, lustig, cole, richards all must leave now
commons back in for a season along with a year extension for forrest to prove ability and fitness again

would not be my first choice but given the standard of youth player in allan and christie stubbs would be an ok choice.. would certainly be an improvement on what we have currently… would also have no qualms in alex neil if norwich where to sack him if they go down

christ fat sally would probably do a better job

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

Now your’e pushing it.

bgbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

the ‘stats’ will show fat sally won two titles…. ‘stats’ are all thats required according to some timothy………..

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

I’ll boot your knackers ya cheeky big bugger.

bgbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

🙂

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

🙂

deadhead67
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

lets get rid of Biton really a couple of average games and you want rid of one of our better players

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  deadhead67

When he didn’t want to be on the park on Sunday, that tells you everything about him.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  deadhead67

I agree with this he like several others has experienced a slump in form.

Ian
8 years ago

‘Drink it down Ronnie its from Lourdes’
‘Going to need a bucketful for the miracle i need’

Iancelt1967
8 years ago

In all my life I’ve never witnessed so much pressure put on a manager who has stubbornly resisted overwhelming opposition during his tenure. I agree he failed to live up to expectations and only in countries who are banana republics would a manager be sacked whilst winning he major prize. Europe is a luxury and a financial necessisity. And our expectations outweigh the realities of our current state pre and during deilas reign. Celtic qualified for the champions league undrvlennon against boats eleven and only just. Don’t get me wrong I was one of the detractors and like any other fan I want instant gratification its human nature. Tail wagging the dog is exactly what’s going on. That’s why winners like clough left Leeds he wouldn’t be swayed away from his agenda even jock steins tenure there was short. Anyway I think there is something self serving and smarmy about Lawell he should be sent away exiled to Sunderland

Deila a scapegoat here but his level of work was too one dimensional and the teams were found wanting when playing teams who did their homework and pressed them with every right to do so because we were not cohesive.

Deila must feel outside his body at times and put himself in a state of utter denial. To believe he was going to get what he wanted. And anyway what the fuck has Norway done or produced in world football. Flo. Solskskjaer brat back? The Aberdeen coach who wore wellies.? It’s been a bizarre time

deadhead67
8 years ago
Reply to  Iancelt1967

something cannot be a luxury and a financial neccesity

Iancelt1967
8 years ago

Borats eleven

Iancelt1967
8 years ago

Think you better drink this like a good boy Ronny. You’re now part of the ” Crock and Molde swindle “

Honest Hoops
8 years ago

Here’s a thought, maybe the purchase of Allan, Christie, Gms,Arrmstrong is a plan for the new manager to arrive in the summer, maybe the decision was made after failing to qualify for CL….okay I’ve put the packet of skittles in the bucket!!!! Nurse!!

deadhead67
8 years ago
Reply to  Honest Hoops

the purchase of crap like them was just a waste of money

oztim67
8 years ago

Good evening from Melbourne.

No Help Whatsoever

I’ll start by saying that Deila should go….now!!! He should have gone at Christmas. But I do feel sorry for him in a way. He took the job when no-one else would. He took it because he had a plan and it had worked for him before. Realistically, he should have been the assistant, I think we all agree on that

Young manager with fresh ideas runs into a brick wall that is the Celtic Board and Celtic dressing room.

Lawwell. “Ronnie, what’s the problem?”
RD, “well, it’s like this. My No.2 is a no.2 and gives me no advice, and my No.3 has no experience, therefore I am getting no help whatsoever. The experienced players don’t want to listen to my ideas and I’m getting no help whatsoever. You are signing all these players that I don’t want and telling me who should play. You are stopping me from implementing my ideas and you are giving me no help whatsoever. If you keep persisting with this then the quality on the pitch will decline. Is this what you want or will you allow me to implement my ideas?
Lawwell, “It’s my way or the highway.”
RD, “ok i’ll do it your way then, but it will fail.”

This is, I believe, why the L man couldn’t sack RD at Christmas, because he was doing exactly what his boss told him. He turned up every game, saw the team sheet and went fuck it’ lets see how this plays out.

I know he made mistakes, but what do you see when looking at him, standing on the touchline during a game, coaching Celtic with no help, a media on his back and then fans. a man with No Help Whatsoever. Lennon had Mjalby and Thompson, 3 very strong characters, look at O’Neil’s staff.

This is just my opinion.

What next? Enough experimenting. Get a quality, experienced coach who knows how to win; who can attract quality players in the same way O’Neil did.

Hail Hail from the land down under where the pain hurts just the same. Be kind with your replies.

maryhillbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  oztim67

oztim67 When on-one else would? No -one else would manage a club with a world wide fan base a mpaatively huge dget that can cherry pick any player playing in its country etc etc etc. Do not buy into the fallacy mate

Iancelt1967
8 years ago
Reply to  oztim67

Oztim as another expat I agree the passion for the club never dies. We get a watered down expose of goings on but we see the games the malaise. And maybe in a better position to witness that skulduggery is evident. I was spoiled. I saw steins team and nearly every dogleg human being on this planet knows who Celtic are. Too us it hurts just as much. But I feel for these people who put their families under financial pressure by paying too watch a sub standard rendition of past teams.

Sometimes it takes catastrophe to create a new dawn. There are too many of us on a worldwide scale to stop giving a fuck. Celtic is one of the biggest families on the planet. And to quote our national anthem. We will rise again. And to quote our other one. Soldiers are we

Martin
8 years ago

I don’t blame Lawwell for appointing Deila. It was a bold & risky move which has failed. But sometimes you need to take bold and risky moves and 2 years ago was probably a good time for Celtic to take one. I do, however, blame Lawwell for the totally clueless transfer policy we have. And that transfer policy is partly to blame for Deila’s failure. I heard recently that Sviatchenko is the only player that Deila identified and signed himself, everyone else was from the John Park / Favoured agents / scatter gun approach.

I do feel quite sorry for Deila, he came with an admirable strategy for high pressing, on the deck football with a focus in young fit players. But we’ve learned the hard way again that having a good idea means you are any good at implementing it. I think his biggest challenges have been a transfer policy that was imposed on him and senior players that took the huff and didn’t but into his vision……but guess what, when you’re paid the big bucks to be a manager you need to deal with stuff like that. A bigger character would have stood up to the senior players and made sure the young players he wanted were built into a winning team.

All the best to you Ronny, you were clearly a nice guy and you have something about you if you managed to win the Norwegian league twice with a wee team…..but it hasn’t worked out at Celtic.

Martin
8 years ago
Reply to  Martin

Sorry, meant to write “having a good idea DOESN’T mean you are any good at implementing it”

deadhead67
8 years ago
Reply to  Martin

it was a cheap move,by pirate pete,

AyrCelt
8 years ago
Reply to  Martin

Agree with the character part, i liked what RD had to say when he first came but he quite quickly gave in to public pressure on berget, on commons, on his style… thats where he had to be strong and cut all those that never bought into his way of thinking, it might of gained him the respect that he needed. The players are only human, theyy would of been surprised by his appointment, so thats where big baws were needed to show whos boss. By not ridding the club of his haters new players coming in quickly buy into the background chat on the manager… cause its clear as day these players dont play for the guy, ok maybe a few but on the whole its wasted effort from ronnie.

Sunday he was screaming at players to press up, to no avail, this would of been a intruction before hand but would the players listen…no respect… no fear..Its needed hh

Rebus67
8 years ago
Reply to  Martin

Martin,

I agree it was a bold move by the Board to appoint a coach preaching the ideas that RD had st the beginning. I hope that they have the brass neck to do it again, only for the genuine article.
However, where is your evidence that RD had limited input in player signings? He stated that his number one yargets were Boyata and then Ciftci. Both were affordable and he got them. We were quite far down the road to sign Danny Wilson, but RD preferred Boyata. Wilson would have cost much less and is no worse! My understanding of what happens is that RD puts forward his needs which might include names. The Scouting dept generates a list. RD prioritises and PL tries to get the first choice in.

The plain fact is that RD is a poor game day coach and he would have failed irrespective of whether he selected all transfer targets or his coaching team. His lack of game management was exposed time after time.
He does have strengths but not as a number one.

IMHO,

Rebus

basqueceltic
8 years ago

Caption;See what i’m doin here Ronny……..?That’s it,just pouring cold water over it,it’ll be awright in the mornin.

mike
8 years ago
Reply to  basqueceltic

I am watching you Basque Baby,how you doin?

The weather here is Roasting and its to be mid.70s all week,hope you and the family are good.

H.H.

basqueceltic
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

HA HA,if you’re close enough to be watchin me ffs lets go for a beer…….very spring-like here but no time to enjoy it,all good here apart from the shit served up on sunday.Hope all’s well with you and yours …..keep the chin up we’ll be back.

Iancelt1967
8 years ago

As simple as it sounds. What club has done anything in European competition without week in week out stern competition? Streau Bucharest maybe? If our expectation levels are getting into the group stages we need a maverick board who will break the bank Maybe like Leeds United? Look where they are now. Unless the Russian mafia or a hedonistic Arab oil mogul. Takes the helm it’s back to uncertainty with a weakened co efficient. And I’m sure the likes of Bayern or Barcaldine are preparing a dossier on Christie and Allen when they face us next year

Iancelt1967
8 years ago

Barcelona

Rab Wallace
8 years ago

Caption ” water into wine time cunt”

Celtic Mikey
8 years ago
Reply to  Rab Wallace

fantastic absolutely fantastic caption

JamesyBhoy
8 years ago

First time poster so please go easy on my ramblings!!

Firstly Ronnie has failed to grasp some simple basics.

As fans we expect, especially at home and/or against lower league opposition to dominate play and possession.

Two holding/sitting midfielders at the expense of a second striker was never going to be popular, consecutive nil – nil draws against Dundee are an example of this flawed strategy.

I don’t agree we play with four forwards, we play with one goal scorer running around in front of three others, one is usually the managers favourite (SJ) who is a good player but needs a rest, the other take your pick from several “one trick ponies” with the third at least of late being TR who regardless of the Penalty on Sunday is a good player.

Why buy Christie, Allan and also ignore Commons to the point of insult when the team obviously lacks creativity?

The 4, 2, 3, 1 system is obviously all the rage at the moment, but does anybody think that we would have scored less goals this season playing 4,4,2 with a fully fit and motivated Stokes partnering LG?

No matter who plays, everyone knows how we play, thus we are too predictable and easy to stifle.

Finally his over reliance on a toiling Brown while forcing Armstrong to play as one of the “middle to front three” is baffling. Armstrong came to Parkhead two seasons ago with Utd, I think it was a Sunday afternoon, went head to head with Brown and ran him ragged, being forced to play out of position has robbed him of form and confidence.

In short, I wanted Ronnie to succeed, but we cant continue with him. His European and domestic cup records are more than enough grounds for his dismissal, never mind his failure to find a plan B even after 2 years

As for Sunday, yes while Sevco dominated in terms of possession we actually created more chances, while trying to play on the defensive. Other smarter and more literate observers than I have looked at the Finances of the latest “custodians” and all would appear to draw similar conclusions, in as much as we have a significant financial advantage.

Ronnie must go and some of the current playing staff with him, but don’t believe as many in the press are gleefully predicting that we are now at a disadvantage. One decent Manager and some smart signings would put us beyond reach for some time.

Remember Sevco at Motherwell this time last year? The difference between now and then is the Manager, they have actually downsized in terms of the team budget since the days of the sneaky Ally, if the Omni shambles that is Sevco can get it right so can we.

Is starting to rebuild as 5 in a row champions really that bad?

Keep the Faith, in the new Manager at least.

HH

mike
8 years ago
Reply to  JamesyBhoy

Jamesbhoy, Naw to your first line,but agree with the rest,welcome to the land of the Ramblers,the Ranters and the Loonys.Good Post.

H.H.

maryhillbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  JamesyBhoy

Jamesybhoy excellent post mate welcome to the madhouse

Rebus67
8 years ago
Reply to  JamesyBhoy

JamesBhoy,

I agree the situation is not dire. Replace the management team with competence and we shall dominate the domestic game. With a decent manager on Sunday, we would have won easily.
We have easily the best player pool in Scotland. We have too many midfielders and need to prune them but there is a strong first team midfield in the group. Just get someone in that knows what they are doing that is all that is really needed. Now Europe is another issue altogether!

Rebus

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  JamesyBhoy

Jamesybhoy,
Good post and I agree with all of it, maybe add a few fucking expletives in your next one tho.
Welcome to E-tims, home of the Insane and Hot pot makers, there is even someone from Stoke here 🙂

Oztim
8 years ago

An important fact in all this is that we didn’t pay the big bucks for a strong manager;we got what we paid for, inexperience. I wonder if Collins got paid more than RD?

Monti
8 years ago

Deila is a fucking clown, get him tae fuck!

ewanbhoy
8 years ago

the reason why Ronny is still manager is because our fucking board have no one in place to replace him and collins and kennedy are not an option.
i really believe that had we beaten the huns our board were going to give Ronny another season, so in that respect what has happened is for the greater good of our club.
we know Ronny is gone but by fuck lawwell should be gone with him.
time for dermot desmond to step up and show that he actually cares about our club and make these changes happen and appoint a good manager with experience and invest some real money in our squad

John Mccloy in tasmania
8 years ago

Iancelt1967 Barcaldine is town in central Queensland.HH

Monti
8 years ago

Peter Lawwell is getting fat and rich on the back of a failing Celtic, we have lost respect in Europe, we are regularly embarrassed in the SPFL and he appointed a manager who has ran the team into the ground, why is this fucking being tolerated?
Why is there individuals on our board who want to see the poorest in society suffer more?
Lawwell if you are reading this hear me, you are a fucking stealing bastard, you are only lining your own pockets in your 50″ waist trousers, you are ripping off the Celtic fans and the club, you have fucked up big style.
You and your tory clique on the board would not support Neil Lennon, a man who DOES genuinely care about the club, you want all the money for your fucking own selfish agenda’s, get tae fuck the lot of you and take your wee ” Gamble ” with you.
Losing to that rancid fucking scum on Sunday is the last straw, go and play with your SFA pals and earn some more money, you fat greedy cunt!

We have given the inbreds their day, what a fucking embarrassment, joke and humiliation!

Utter fucking shite, go now fuck off and when you get there, fuck off further than that!

Iancelt1967
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Monti. The manager was micromanaged that’s the argument. Given a free reign on signing policy etc and his own choice of a management team do you think times may have been happier for us ? Would a ‘proper manager’ put up with this? Keane. Moyes. MON ? Where is the problem. Was Deila given optimal conditions to carry out and implement a successful campaign and is completely inept ? You’re argument seems to be that Lawell is a cunt and hand picked someone to do a job with the constraints of gradual downsizing but just good enough to win a league spooky for choice in a small fishbowl and us fans should be incensed by it all. Maybe you’re right. Charlie saiz has said all year that it’s all going to work out and we have to accept intermittent disappointment. To me we’ve been utterly consumed by stalking Rangers comings and goings and taken our eye off the ball but then again like any Scotsman I enjoy talking shite

Iancelt1967
8 years ago
Reply to  Iancelt1967

Spoilt not spooky

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Iancelt1967

No I don’t, I think Deila is shite and out of his depth!

Half_Fool
8 years ago
Reply to  Iancelt1967

The sharp suited man does need to go, however Lawwell did not pick the starting 11 on Sunday. Boyata is never a Celtic class centre-half in his life; Big Erik showed that Boyata cannae lace his boots; and who picked that team? Ronny did – he cannae see whats right in front of his nose, and that is the main problem at Celtic right now.

Iancelt1967
8 years ago

John my new iPhone has me perplexed. Thanks for the put down. You’re probably not a calies fan

bgbhoy
8 years ago

England John Barnes June 1999 February 2000 29 19 2 8 65.52%

Norway Ronny Deila June 2014 112 73 21 18 65.18

theres a stat for you charlie, think i stated this ‘stat’ a few months ago which you scoffed at… but statistically barnes is a better manager than deila

8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

Aye and he lost Larsson m8 for most of it.

Bgbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Sacked after losing a tie to lower league opposition. Charlie saiz- deila ha a grand plan. Deila will make us better. At Least I wasn’t surprised with Sunday. To think of all the times you saw the ‘nigger picture’ fuking blind man could see this guy was a dud. John Barnes a better manger statistically than deila

Bgbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Bgbhoy

Jesus that’s meant to say bigger picture. Sorry

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Bgbhoy

Like a bit of 2pac myself….Holmes 🙂

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

What a great picture of lots of empty seats.Thanks oh clueless one.

elcormaco
8 years ago

A lot of talk that Ronnie doesn’t like Collins, didn’t want him in, has no say in who we sign, it’s forced to pay certain players, it’s unlucky that he can’t do the job the way he wants, senior players letting him down blah blah blah.

Based on what evidence? Ronnie has never made any comment I’m aware of to support that point of view. A dud is a dud is a dud, I wish folk would stop trying to exonerate him from any blame for the terrible first team that he puts on the park week after week

Rudebhoy
8 years ago

Just got a message saying Lawells for the off right enough. Don’t see anything online to confirm it though. Fingers crossed.

8 years ago

I sincerely hope Lawell is gone and takes the three amigos with him. Just a start. I pray to God that DD is indeed demanding the exit of clowns on the take. Is it true it was he who gave us MON, Neil and WGS while Lawell gave us TM and Ronnie??
Wouldn’t be surprised. But the hand-sitters who have brought our great club to this mess can all f*** off!!

BroxburnBhoy
8 years ago

Delia has a squad that is clearly better than anyone’s else’s in Scotland. With the squad he has and any modicum of managerial know how, we ought to have swept the treble and be looking at a season of undisputed superiority. The play on the pitch is down to Delia and his management team being unable to come up with appropriate game plans and pick the right players in the right positions to execute it. Lawell took the cheap inexperienced option and he got what he paid for. I tried to believe that Delia would turn it round and my faith was
Misplaced. He lacks the experience and competence to manage a club the size of Celtic and the grit to keep senior players in line

Cartvale88
8 years ago

The smoke and mirrors are what most people react to, ‘get rid of Delilah’ he is the the one to blame.
The truth is tha since Chesney arrived, the club b has been downsizing, as some one said no Fletcher but Flood.
Lenny did his best, but he was the cheap option, Delilah was supposed to be brought in as an Assistant, but instead due to the pathetic planning by the management that went to the wall and he bcam the manager, a job to early for him unfortunately.
They continue to mine for the odd diamond, but all they find is dross, Ciftci, Boerigter, et all.
What would a Sigurdsson have added, to expensive.
We hav a plethora of midfielders and a lack of forwards, you can see that this is a management with a football brain.
We can shout about Delilah, the team, but the malaise is far deeper, a shower of small minded people that cannot even guarantee the Living Wage £8.25, to all the workers.
Yes we lost to Sevco, but look at the previous results prior to the January window, look at the players brought in last summer, enough said.
There has to be a major chang a the heart of this great football club or it will drift along as it has since 2012, hours! With the odd great result, but otherwise downwards to its stature of the fifties.

deadhead67
8 years ago
Reply to  Cartvale88

wtf has the living wage got to do with it,too much of that subject at AGM and little about the state of the playing squad

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Cartvale88

Spot on.

ewanbhoy
8 years ago

lawwell has got to go and dermot desmond knows it.
we will not tolerate him any longer, big changes coming…..i think a big announcement could be made before this weekend

BroxburnBhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  ewanbhoy

I agree I think Lawell will go and there will be a Board shake up. Hopefully DD was pissed off enough at what he saw on Sunday to act decisively. All Board members should be up for review as well as the overall strategy of the club both commercial
And football. As we all seem to think – time for an overall.

ewanbhoy
8 years ago

Ronny is totally at fault too, the state of our play on the field is all down to him and he can not be trusted to win us the league, he should be gone now.
come on DD , show some strength and wheeled the axe……you know who has to go, dont wait do it now!!!!

deadhead67
8 years ago

dermot desmond does not give a fuck about celtic

BroxburnBhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  deadhead67

I disagree he invested 9m quid to help Fergus and still owns the most shares. I think he does care about Celtic both emotionally and certainly financially. I think it’s time for him to get more involved. His hands off approach or low profile approach hasn’t worked. Time for DD to step up and lead

mike
8 years ago
Reply to  BroxburnBhoy

I agree with you on that Broxburn,i feel more positive now and believe as a club that we may progress in other issues soon.

ewanbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  deadhead67

well we will find out soon enough if DD has any ambition or love for our club, i hope to fuck he does

ewanbhoy
8 years ago

if there was ever a time that we need leadership it is now and fans aside DD is the only person that can give us that.

DD……we are waiting!!!!

ewanbhoy
8 years ago

Brendan Rodgers name is being mentioned alot, could he come in before the weekend ?
he wpuldnt be a bad choice as manager, he has managed at the top level and could be a good fit for us

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  ewanbhoy

He would do a great job for Celtic!

cartvale88
8 years ago

Deidheid, the living wage show the mentality of the Board and Lawell to the fans. tightfisted at all levels.
Your rants show you do not understand how a business is run.
Take a look at Barca, are they penny pinching, NO
That is the point I was making buying things on the cheap to sell on at A PROFIT great in the Barras, but Celtic are supposed to attain for more achievement, pride, caring for the support and the community.
THAT IS THE OBJECT THAT STATED CELTIC,get it?

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