A very good article , written by john clark, has appeared on the Scottish Football Monitor website. The author attended the presentation at Edinburgh University by SFA chief Stewart Regan, and managed to get a few minutes with him afterwards.
Read it. It’s very interesting.
One particular line is perhaps the most significant in the whole issue of sporting integrity in the Scottish football league.
Regan said that the matter was complex, and explained to the class ( with a smile)that , as he had mentioned earlier, the West of Scotland threw up particular problems),and that this wasn’t really the place to discuss it,
Fair play to Regan, he did discuss it afterwards, as the article explains, but this bit about the west of Scotland and it’s particular problems is intriguing.
We already know that normal rules of business don’t seem to apply, a club can be liquidated now and carry on as though nothing had happened, a unique way of dealing with debts that has yet to be offered by the citizens advice bureau, but it seems to work. There are others, as we have seen, but this is the one that stands out.
For Regan, however, to adopt this stance that the area is somehow unique and exempt from the accepted rules and regulations , not only in law, but in football, is a fascinating insight as to how his mind works, and consequently , how the SFA works. It also shows a mentality that has previously been adopted by a brotherhood that has dominated the governance of Scottish football for the last hundred years or so. Regan isn’t from around here, so he must count himself fortunate to have had so many locals on hand to explain to him how things work…
Great article, which shows exactly what we are up against.
As for Regan, he’s appears to have been honest about the Resolution 12 question so far, it seems, claiming the matter has been dealt with, and therefore , the onus is now on Celtic, or Peter Lawwell, to comment.
Lawwell must say whether or not he feels the matter has been dealt with.
He must also outline his next move.
Not next week, not next month.
Today.
Otherwise, it’s going to be a little tricky for him to sell tickets to a show that many people isn’t worth attending because we already know the plot, and what the ending is going to be.
After all, most film producers will tell you its a bad idea to have the audience cheering for the hero if he’s just going to get shot at the end.
Time to put pressure on Celtic, and to demand answers…otherwise the car park won’t have any room for cars on it at the next home game.
Good article, the time for action,and that’s not battering the keyboard is fast approaching. Our games remaining credibility depends upon it. I think Lawell should give answers or resign. No way Celtic are innocent in all this. Imo.
Great article.
Enough is enough.
Here are my thoughts on the latest Resolution 12 developments
https://theclumpany.wordpress.com/2016/03/17/only-one-language-theyll-understand/
Great article,the Clumpany man, i was concerned before,now i am getting worried.
John, here here,i still think we are beating our heads agin a brick wall.
A club like no other?
The Clumpany, Ralph,
great articles , and bang on the money; particularly The Clumpany’s view on what this REALLY means re- Scottish football, genuine sport or freakish light entertainment.
Another way of phrasing that would be to call it a rigged game.
Years ago , we were suspicious of cheating .
Now we all KNOW what was/is going on.
Yet we are being asked (including by our own club, it seems)to just roll up next season ;forget the past , and lets get back to business as usual.
BUSINESS AS USUAL .In other words a rigged game , “honest mistakes” and all .
BUSINESS AS USUAL . That’ll mean us playing “Laurel” to their ” Hardy”.
Because in this “freakish light entertainment” scenario The Clumpany refers to , there’s two main characters ; but the rules are that the preferred (establishment) character must ,more often than not , prevail over the lesser ( outsider) character .
Question is for all Celtic fans , now knowing of the cheating past , and of how this sham is supposed to pick up where it left off in 2012, and of how it is supposed to play out ; do we apply the sevco fan mindset and pretend it’s not happening , roll up next season and buy into the rigged game again ; OR NOT.
And if not , then what options are open to us to put an end to this sham ?
For me personally , as much as Celtic means to me , I just don’t think I can buy into what is in store from next season onwards , knowing what I now know.
Here here or for Peter hullo hullo. HH
Boycott the semi-final. Don’t recognise them. To attend is to recognise they are the same team and have not really committed any real crimes. There is no other action that will get their attention. By them I mean the corrupt officials of Scottish Football including our own men. To me they are worse than those at Ibrox. For the Celtic board to squirm out of a confrontation with them is deplorable. It is almost as if they accept who their masters are and cannot bring anything up that will make them uncomfortable. Lawwell should be making a statement he should have done so years ago. This would have demonstrated that he has Celtic’s interests at heart. But, in truth, Lawwell does not see Celtic having any value outside of being part of the Old Firm. He seems to recognise how limited the club is. Without them we are worth nothing. Europe is fast becoming a thing of the past or a once in every five years experience. He wants the bigot-fest so beloved of all to return to take the minds of the fans off under-investment. We don’t need Europe if we have them 4 times a season. However, that is not the club I support.
I’m always surprised when bigotry and sectarian bile is labeled a “west of Scotland” thing. Living on the east coast and working in Edinburgh for many years I can assure you that it is Scotland wide. It’s a Scotland thing.
EXACTLY
totally agree, they are mental in that neck of the woods, and as for west Lothian ( your neck, Brox ) well let me say a don’t scare easily but they are a different breed through there!
HAIL HAIL N aw that !
As a supporter of an other club other than Celtic I know the strength and impact that even a modest Boycott could have on the Scottish game – it would be enormous especially at a major TV event live at Hampden where the old dead club of Rangers now Sevco would be in sharp focus. The media inside and outside of Scotland would have to pay attention. Res 12 would be given a larger profile and the stakes would be raised considerably. Boycott Hampden park – it ticks all the boxes.
Buffy, I agree with a boycott of this game, but I fear the press would simply brush it under the carpet and allude some other reason for the supporters actions.This is now getting to a critical stage where Celtic and the other clubs are sleep walking into a true Armageddon as a high percentage are no longer willing to support what is basically, a corrupt,tainted and damaged game.
I find the talk of Resolution 12,at this very late hour, and Reagans answer to JC fae tSFM all very depressing. For me, it’s beyond confirmation and the deadening sound of the final nail. Now remember from here going forward; YOU are the victim and they rule over you in perpetuity and its aw happy days!
Surely, if both the SFA & Celtic are happy to let this drop, then the only course of action that will work is to make sure that UEFA ( FIFA) are forced to take notice of our complaints? And, the only way to do that is with a public show of protest from the fans that makes it on to the TV?.
The upcoming semi provides the perfect opportunity as – like it or not – it will get more publicity outside of Scotland than any other match this year.
A boycott would certainly have that effect, but is probably not realistic. However, perhaps a mass walk out something along the lines of what happened at Anfield a few weeks back might work? Perhaps just before half-time rather than full time?
Personally, I like the idea of every single Celtic fan booing or whistling for 60 seconds in the 12th minute (maybe even for 12 minutes 🙂 ) as they could do nothing to stop it it and would have trouble ignoring. That – combined with flags, banners(Red card for Regan) mi worth thinking about
Boycott season ticket sales. If that doesn’t get a response nothing will.
Carljunglebhoy
That sounds good, maybe see if the Huns will loan you their show liquidation the red card, they have no more need from them. Will give them a sense of participating.
🙂 Red Card For Regan has a nice ring to it don’t you think?
Keep up the entertainment lads! So it’s the Masons that’s controlling Scottish football now and Regan is an honorary member? Hilarious stuff, please keep it coming.
^Wank^
Talk about having sand kicked in your face. Regan has now crossed the very last line by answering John Clark “Nothing”, when asked what he’d do with uncontrovertible evidence about the huns EUFA Licence. He already has that evidence anyway, but his stance is now public. He may well live to regret that rush of blood. If Lawwell decides to continue to do “Nothing” also, then it’s up to the fans. I think a real killer blow could and should be delivered on April 17th.
1st, and foremost,don’t buy any tickets. It’s your money they NEED. Turn up at Hampden with suitable placards, but with no intention of going in. Keep it in good spirits and give them NOTHING to beat us with. Talking of “beat us with” have your phones fully charged, ready to capture Police Scotland when they ‘lose it’. The camera can work for us too. The press will get word and I’m not talking SMSM here. The world will be told the truth about the SFA, et al. Watch EUFA and probably FIFA take action then. There’ll never be a better time than the 17th.
HH
Rumour has it that it is a Masonic sect on the dark side of the moon that has sent Regan on a secret mission to wind up Celtic fans. Either that or the rest of the world don’t see things through green-tinted specs. My money is on the first one though. Those pesky dark-siders!!
Steve I think you protest too much. For the SFA and others the answer for Scottish football is to make SEVCO great. Wrong answer! That said when it is the sought after by the SFA answer, despite the illegal payments, bigotry and sectarianism what you get is more outlandish moves to make it happen at the expense of clubs who have followed the rules and have found themselves behind SEVCO. Frankly the SFA have been a disgrace in this saga of Rangers liquidation and SEVCO pandering. I think it will all come out in the court case with Chuckles Green. I look forward to the collusion being transparent.
ah agree however Brox…did yi go mental in downtown Boston yesterday???
HH
Rumour has it “Steve” comes on here every now and then pretending to be all sane & knowledgeable, but actually knowing SFA about the facts of the matter. Any excuse to paint every last one of us as crazy conspiracy theorists.
You could probably come up with quite a good case to show that it’s only when he’s worried that there might actually be some truth/substance to the case, that he comes on here spouting his superiority complex inspired put downs, which don’t actually address any of the facts of the issue raised, but try to distract from it but picking the scabs off one small angle (e.g. masons)as if that was the whole thing.
I remember “Steve” doing the same when I did an article about the #DamJustice issue. He said it was pure fantasy and they were all guilty – until Maggie Quigley – the wife of John Quigley who was released and got compensation after charges were dropped when he proved police statements were complete lies – actually came on here telling Mistra KnowItAll Steve that – unless he was there he couldn’t possibly know the facts of the matter – so maybe he should shut up.
I challenge him to read the facts about the Resolution 12 issue and then come back with proof – rather than meaningless rhetoric and distraction – which supports his view it’s nothing more than conspiracy theory. Oh, and just to be clear – I’m not talking about the masonic miasma – but the UEFA football issue in isolation.
Over to you Steve!
I would be shocked at his “nothing” response if it wasn’t so true to form.
These people have got away with it for years, the press don’t ask questions of course, but the fact that our club have essentially done SFA angers me the most. Wee Fergus would have been all over this, which yet again shows Lawell for what he is, a self serving egotist.
I like CarlJungleBhoy’s suggestions, make it newsworthy and obvious, use the large TV audience to our advantage.
My fear though, is that the majority of our fans are unaware of whats really going on, how many follow The Clumpany, ETIMs etc to know whats going on and do something about it??
HH
I believe UEFA rules bar a club from taking its own FA to court. However, there is no bar on shareholders doing this. I would not jump on the club so quickly until we know what the SFA replied to Celtic.
Rebus
I’m not protesting. Just having a wee chuckle at the tin-foil hat brigade here. Keep it up lads.
Steve,
What is your view on the issues behind Res 12? Do you think SFA were duped into issuing a licence to the then Rangers in 2011 or do you think it was OK to break their own rules for Rangers?
Perhaps, you think it is a stupid rule and it should be abolished? Interested to hearing your thoughts on the real issues behind Res 12 rather than conspiracy theories.
Rebus
I think Rangers told the SFA that although they were in debt, their finances were stable and the SFA took that for face value. Real Madrid are in loads of debt. Do you think the Spanish football association look into the books of Real and Barca before allowing them to play in Europe? Nope.
How many of the clubs in Europe are in debt? Hundreds. Should they be chucked out of Europe? Not if their finances are stable. Were the SFA duped? Probably. Were Rangers duped? Most certainly. Was it a conspiracy? Probably not. It is just another calamity in the horrendous running of Rangers.
So, “Rangers” lied to the SFA. The SFA knew it was lies and knew that it was a breach the rules, and are now lying about that . The simple fact that 2 of the main players ove thr last few years – Ogilvie & Regan – were both “insiders” with previous links to Ibrox, might not indicate a conspiracy, but the whole thing stinks to high heaven.
The Real/Barca argument is a lame distraction. Not relevant to the specifics of the Res 12 charge.
The SFA broke the rules on this and knew it. Even if you don’t think it’s a conspiracy, the fact the SFA refuse to even acknowledge there are questions to be answered says enough about how much they can be trusted.
If “Rangers” – or more accurately I feel – their fans have been “duped” then why aren’t they bothered? – Simple: they care about only one thing – getting their “club” back to playing in the SPL and forgetting about what’s happened when it suits them – “Move on. Nothing to see here”. which is EXACTLY the attitude of the football authorities which anyone with a moral compass and sense of justice should not be prepared to tolerate.
How is the fact that Football Associations don’t look into clubs finances irrelevant? Do you think that all accounts should be fully audited by FAs now? Unfortunately the situation at Rangers spiralled quickly because of one individual that no-one could have really foreseen (unless you were in their inner sanctum). Unless the SFA were in collusion with Craig Whyte – PLOT TWIST!!
I like this new crazy angle that has arrisen!; tell me how Regan is connected with Rangers now? Is he a Mason? illuminati?
That is the problem with the modern world – the Internet has created the rise of the crazy. Every single disaster or story has an army of people with crazy fantastic theories. 9/11? Conspiracy. Sandy Hook? False flag. Mars Rover? NASA is editing the footage to cover up alien life. Tsunamis? Secret government weapon!
Maybe some of the above are actually what they seem to be; accidents, mistakes, lone-wolf bastards. There is no conspiracy. Just because someone spouts it on the internet doesn’t make true – as goes with this comment I guess – a lot will claim I am hitting out with “crazy talk”.
And for the record – I don’t know if you haven’t noticed – but Rangers fans are pretty angry at the whole thing.
Haha, “moral compass”. Good one. If everyone had a “moral compass” in football then we wouldn’t be following any club. Half the players are convicts in some way. Chairmen covering their own backsides constantly. Anyway, I thought the “moral compass” was in action – last time I noticed there was a massive court case ongoing.
It’s easy to diss anyone who doesn’t accept the sanitised version of fact given to the public as fantasists or consipacy theorists. However, there have been plenty of instances when it’s taken decedes to get he true fact of a matter to come out and break a conspiracy of silence and cover up surrounding an issue. The Hillsbourgh disaster to name but one.
The massive court case does not hide the fact that the Teflon knight ripped off the public purse and left your “club” owing tens of millions. Unless/until that matter is dealt with – raher than swept undee the carpet, and the collusion of the SFA in allowing your Tribute Act of a club to re-write the rules, then many are not prepared to look the other way again and again.
The truth of what happened at the SFA has yet to come out. Untilthat happens, ustice remains to be served
I love the “tribute act” chat. Better get on the blower to UEFA and FIFA about that. Or are they in the plot as well?