After finding himself the target of much anger from the supporters of the club he directs, well, thats what directors do, I assume, Lord Livingston of Parkhead, who voted for an increase in hunger among children at the house of Lords, has attempted to defend his act.
“I would like to see changes to the tax credit proposal to ameliorate the impact of it. However, I voted against the motions as it is not the constitutional role of the unelected House of Lords to overturn the clear will of the elected House of Commons on a financial matter.”
Holding a peeled onion, the peer explained that he was only in government in the first place
“because I was prepared to serve (for nothing) as Trade Minister and gave up being CEO of BT to do so because I felt I could help create employment and economic growth for the UK by promoting exports and inward investment. I feel I had some impact. I had little history in politics and certainly no intent to be involved in government until the PM asked me to become trade minister.”
“Finally, I know a lot of Labour peers felt differently about the role of the House of Lords vote but interestingly they did not vote for the fatal motion which does suggest they knew that there was an issue. I am surprised to see so many people think the non-elected House of Lords should override the will of the Commons. To my mind the House of Lords insofar as it has any role should be a chamber that scrutinises and amends the details of laws.”
Er, the purpose of the House of Lords is to act as a check on the Lower House, according to www.parliament.co.uk
What does the House of Lords do?
The House of Lords is the second chamber of the UK Parliament. It works with the House of Commons to:
- make laws
- check and challenge the actions of the government, and
- provide a forum of independent expertise
The House of Lords Chamber spends about 60% of its time on legislation; the other 40% is spent on scrutiny – questioning Government and debating issues and policy. Committee work takes place outside the Chamber.
So, you would think that when a bill is introduced that goes against his own feelings, he would vote with his conscience.
Apparently not.
On something as important as the welfare of the vulnerable in society, the man has expressed his opinion.
It is not an opinion which sits comfortably alongside his role as a director of Celtic FC.
The petition for his resignation has reached ten thousand or so.
If you haven’t already signed it, please let your feeling be known to the man who , in his defence of his actions in the House, claims to listen to the people.
Petition to Remove Lord Livingston
One wonders if he will go with the will of the people this time, and do the honourable thing.
Elsewhere, and the EBT did they cheat?/did they cheat a lot ? debate rumbles on, despite there not really being anything to debate.
They did it, and everyone knows they did it. all thats happening now is a damage limitation exercise, led by a compliant media, in the hope that we’ll all just forget about it and carry on, presumably with a strong Rangers entity in place to ensure we all live in some sort of footballing utopia.
With various articles outling the somewhat bizarre opinion such as that they would have won anyway, they were won on the pitch and a whole load of other hastily thrown together nonsense, it was no surprise that Richard Gough, a former captain of the old club, said his piece yesterday.
Clamouring for an end to the “witch hunt ” aimed at Rangers old club and their unique style of remuneration, which involved the delaying of paying tax, for around fifty years or so, Gough introduced an imaginary scenario….
Can you imagine if it emerged in later years that Henrik Larsson had an EBT during that season?
It won’t, because he didn’t.
If it turned out the Swede — Celtic’s key player in that title triumph — was paid via a scheme that’s now infamous in Scottish football.
Surely “illegal ” , and not infamous ?
Following the logic of the real-life never-ending EBT row, I’d be due a league winner’s medal.
For me and all the rest of my Rangers team-mates, ten-in-a-row would suddenly be a reality.
No it wouldn’t, because you’d have lost the other nine.
You’d think I’d be delighted to see my name written into the history books, right?
Not as delighted as i will, with a little asterisk next to it explaining your team cheated.
Wrong. I would have no interest in that medal. I would have no interest in seeing Celtic stripped of that historic title.
That is the honest truth. It would mean nothing to me.
It wouldn’t matter if Wim Jansen’s entire Celtic squad had EBTs, they won it fair and square on the pitch.
Ah, but you see, the entire Celtic squad didn’t have EBTS, and therefore they did win it fair and square on the pitch.
Which the bold Riachard appears to have forgotten.
Gough recently returned froma trip overseas pitching for extra finance for the stricken new Ibrox entity. Rumour has it that the trip cost more than he raised, by some considerable distance.
If his sales pitch was as well thought out and precented as his “scenario ” above, it’s not too difficult to understand why he failed.
The press continue with their policy of deflection, and whataboutery, and it is all reminscent of the death of a similarly named club, with similarly named directors, just a few years ago.
Celtic’s response to all this, of course, was measured, calm, amd direct.
Whatever is going on behind closed doors, I think we can safely say that moves are afoot to finally put a stop to years of institutional favouritism, and if those responsible don’t walk away, then clubs and their supporters might.
This is the beginning of the end, and not the end of the beginning, as churchill would have said.
Thats if he was alive.
Actually, if he was alive, he’d probably say something like
“Oi, let me out of here “
Right, now here’s a picture to test you from years gone by, following on from Kenny Dalglish and Tom Rogic, the time travelling Tim in Fridays diary.
Name the Celts in the Scotland under 18 squad from 1982…
Thanks to Lisbon Lion for the picture.
Finally, one or two readers have mentioned the replies in the Diary veering away fro talking about football or anything else raised that can be deemed relevant.
I’m quite sure that some of you little digs and in jokes are amusing for those involved, and no doubt great fun to partake in.
And I’m also sure there are other forums where that sort of discussion is welcome.
Have a look for them.
And we don’t do personal insults on here either.
( you have no idea how difficult it was not to add the word “muppets ” at the end of that sentence, but I managed. )
Jim Mcinally Jim Dobbin 2 I see
Paul Chalmers, jim McInally and Jim Dobbin
The 1982 youth European Championship winning squad.
Under 17? Under 18?
I would like to apologise for a number of posts/comments on here recently, especially the language bit.
My future posts will reflect my apology! HH
can we count Eric black ? involved at paradise with development.
Happens on CQN too, during the International breaks things get a bit tetchy. Not enough football to talk about.
Churchill said a lot of things in his time that you seldom hear repeated now.
Like this for example:
“I do not admit… that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America, or the black people of Australia… by the fact that a stronger race, a higher grade race… has come in and taken its place.”
Churchill to Palestine Royal Commission, 1937
Can you imagine Cameron coming out with that in present times?
On Livingston I don’t want anyone rail roaded out of Celtic by mob rule mentality to me it undermines the whole “A Club for all” mantra.
That’s why I won’t be signing it.
“Mob rule”? You mean the democractic right to protest against someone who’s clearly at odds with the ethos of our club.
( you have no idea how difficult it was not to add the word “muppet ” at the end of that sentence, but I managed. )
Or the democratic right NOT to agree with your political stance. I’ll say again. IL explained why he voted with the Commons motion. End of.
“End of”, wow, that’s democratic. His deceitful claim that he couldn’t vote against it has been thoroughly debunked. He’s simply a Tory voting for Tory laws withouthaving the courageous of his convictions.
He’s not at Celtic in a Political capacity he’s there because of his business acumen.
Some of us (thankfully the vast majority) can separate the two.
He’s there to represent the ethos of the club and not to embarrass and shame it.
If you really think you speak for the vast majority of Tic fans how about starting a “Lets keep Livingston” petition, you should get 100,000+
Tick tock.
10,000 have signed I was led to believe there are around 9 million Worldwide?
Common sense decrees the vast majority are either not interested or disagree.
No need for a petition.
Charlie Saiz,
He might not be at Celtic park in a political sense, but the way he supported the tax cut measures, is against the clubs moral and social position.
So let’s say at worst, he has acted in a manner that has no connection with the Celtic family, that for me is a cause for concern.
Like I said earlier Charlie, he has made a decision that makes the most vulnerable in society worse off?
I’m for him going…..
Alan Sneddon? Front row left?
too old ! its gary mckay
Thanks!
I’m ashamed to admit I can’t remember Jim Dobbin or Jim McInally. Must have been during my football sabbatical in the 80s.
Well said Ralph, this has been building over the past few weeks if not months.
I would like to think that tolerance of others points of view is one of the great aspects of supporting Celtic and not being one of the peepul.
WANTP!!!!!!
In the words of the Commons and Lords HEAR HEAR.
WHERE? WHERE?
…we’ll be there! where? ever buken where we’ll be there!
Just checked them out. Both of them barley played for Celtic senior team. I remember McInally now played for Dundee Utd. Just never made the connection. 🙂
Tommy Coyne
I would also like to apologise as well as i am anything but a homophobe and Monti’s sexual orientation is his business.
The petition to ‘remove’ Ian Livingston is an affront to everything Celtic stands for. He has already explained why he voted with his party on this issue. I’ll take him at his word despite my revulsion for the proposed legislation.
Celtic is rightly seen as a Club open so ALL with no regard for Creed or lack of it, ethnicity, or political persuasion. Even SNP members are welcome. Let’s ditch this pseudo-facist attempt to railroad a valuable club servant because you don’t agree with his politics.
This would be a sad precedent to set at the whim of the politicos who frankly are becoming a pain in the bahookie.
Have argued in a similar vein since this whole non story broke. See my previous posts on this . On this premise we should have petitions against all SNP , Labour Lib Dem Directors fans etc etc. The only people then suitable for The Celtic Board are non politicised individuals ,try finding some ?
The only people suitable for the Celtic board, are open, honest and benefit our club as a whole.
Very good Andy but that won’t be enough for the anti board brigade who post on this site . Remember Livingstone might well have all those characteristics but he is a Tory Lord who voted in line with his political leanings and we have a petition to have him removed. Tell me how you get people on The Board with no political slant.? Even Charie Saiz idea of Supporter Ownership is fraught with difficulties. The truth of this whole matter is that if the Team performs and gets results all this Board nonsense will disappear. Fickle lot football fans. or what.
Bob,
Are you familiar with Ferrero Rocher?
‘ Open to all ‘ is being manipulated by having cretins like Ian Livingston on Celtic’s board.
No matter how you try and give this fellow a glossy makeover, he HAS voted in favour of making the poorest in society, worse off!
Celtic were formed to give people something who otherwise had literally nothing.
Food in their bellies, clothes on their back and most importantly of all…HOPE for their future!
That was our clubs aim and hopefully still is, we are still handing food out to the needy, foodbanks are relied upon more now than at any time in recent history?
Has Ian Livingston had to use a foodbank?
Has he ever had to go hungry?
Has he ever felt the shame of having no money to give his family a better life?
Has he ever been without hope?
He wants the poorest to be worse off…go think about what type of person that is!
Bob, since when has not giving someone something that isn’t theirs “making the poorest in society, worse off”?
You can argue they should be given it, and more, and I’d probably agree with you, but you can’t argue you are making people poorer when it was never theirs to begin with.
You can argue we have an unfair allocation of resources and badly skewed priorities, but we do have a wealth redistribution system in place and the poorest are less poor because of it. Of course we could, and probably should, do more.
Shame that redistribution means that England’s 50 million population run away with 90% of our contribution.
I wonder how ‘Lord’ Nimmo Smith voted? Oh that’s right he isn’t a real Lord, as he retired from his JOB as Lord of Appeal and is only referred as such out of courtesy. ‘Nimmo the Dimmo’ it is then. HH
they cheated our grandparents they cheated our parents and they cheated us now they are caught they are saying move along timmy so we can get on with cheating your kids the laptop loyal are fucking reprobates
Language there….it’s Sunday 🙂
i know you might no believe it but ime no long back fae the pineapple
yaaaaaaaass ma ‘stop aw the sweary words’ is winning the day!!!
time travelling charlie mulgrew second left at top
Celtic a club open to all, even a Tory voting for Tory polices, what do the uber fans want next, a season ticket questionaire to make sure only their idea of ideal fans alllowed to support the team….
A big well done to all the guys who slept outside last night in Paradise for charity.
Can’t imagine any of the Celtic board doing that no matter their political allegiance.
The last time i looked this was a football forum, the clue is in the title.Somehow its altered to aPolitical/class forum judging from the spewing from the Willies.All youse that want to spew political Pish GTF.
To be fair Mike it’s a Diary which means the person writing the diary can talk about any subject they want?
You,I and everyone else has the option either to stop reading it or refrain from commenting on whatever subject has been spoken about.
Charlie, Thats what happens when you bring Politics and Religion onto an open Forum,canny wait tae the fitba starts.
I agree but since there is no fitba we do have a tendency to look more closely to other things as a result.
Alot has been going on these past few days that affect most of us in different ways sometimes it’s good to talk,argue debate to get these things off our chest.
Charlie,it gets ma goat when people talk Politics A canny stand poloticans especially in light of recent tradgedies ,it also gets ma goat that you always want to have the last word.
So by that I take it you wanted the last word?
Fill yer boots….
Mon tae fcuk mike don’t leave me dangling here with the last…….
Word.
Charlie,Let it be let it be,its a long and bending road,Help a need somebody ,Y^esterday a ma troubles seemed so far away,is ronny Norwegian Wood,Then John Collins is defo thick if he thinks we were better than Molde.Happy noo,have a good yin.
Livingstone is right in as much that the Lords are not expected to interfere in bills which involve finance. The real issue for all of us should be living with a system of government which has an upper chamber composed of unelected and in some cases hereditary people answerable to no one.
Again, not true, as it wasn’t a finance bill. I agree on the bigger picture of the unelectefd HoL, also the total hypocrisy of those that support and sit in it and then claim they can’t take part as its “undemocratic”.
If the parties in power stopped granting knighthoods and the honours list was abandoned the problem will just go away cos they will all die off.
A second house is required but in a more acceptable format and no jobs for the boys .
He didn’t have to vote
Is he not correct in saying the lords check whether a bill is legal, and should have no say in whether they like it or not. Therefore a vote in favour was only a vote to state that it was legal to make the poor even poorer – it was not a vote in support of it.
To have a petition against someone for doing their job is shameful. Livingston didnt create this legislation, he wasnt elected to influence this legislation, he was chosen to double check its legality and thats it. We should be looking to attack those who created the legislation (the tories) and everyone who did not speak out when it went through commons (every MP).
If we try and remove everyone who has a different viewpoint from us we have sunk to a mentality that is more akin to the WATP brigade, than the Celtic i know.
Surely before people should be encouraged into signing a petition to remove someone from their job they should be clear on exactly why?
Livingston did not create this law, he had no part in its writing or presentation to the commons – that was the job of the tory government.
Livingston did not vote on whether it was appropriate, or use his position to open a wider discussion on child poverty – that was the job of our elected MPs.
His role was to check it was legal. Which he voted it was. As distasteful as it is, im willing to take livingston at his word that this legislation is legal.
To consider removing this man for doing his job does not seem right. To have a petition to force this through does not seem fitting for Celtic fans. To do it while blaming him for aspects that are nothing to do with him is verging on a WATP attitude(ie he may well have bern disgusted by the law but recognises his job requires himself to put his personal opinions aside – no different from a lawyer defending a criminal – he doesnt support the crime but recognises his role in a system of checks and balances). Our anger should be directed at the tory government or our elected MPs, not the house of lords – they are unelected specifically to avoid the risk of influence, they need to rise above their own opinions and vote on legal or illegal, much like a judge.
We are asking for someone to be removed from their job, because we perceive their views to be different from ours. His views might not be different, but rather than check, or take him at his word we are just going to demand he leaves our club.
Regarding those Gough quotes… innuendo is still defamation. Hope Henrik has his lawyers on the case.
The House of Lords should be abolished. No politician who believes in democracy should become a ‘Lord’ or sit there despite it being a nice wee money spinner for Labour politicians. I won’t sign the petition because Lord Livingston does not serve our club in that capacity and he probably has some business acumen which might help our club keep afloat. Our club has a strong political identity but it is supposed to be inclusive and our backs are broad enough to carry a few Tories. Hell, Di Canio was a fascist but I’d draw my line at fascism!
p.s. Can we talk about fitba sometimes too? Rogic was injured by the way. I hope our other internationals return ok. Will Brown, Mulgrew and Simunovic be fit after the break?
Devoy,
You want to talk football mate?
Cool, can I ask you a question or two?
What is your best and worst moment following Celtic?
That is a good question Monti; even though I was in Seville I would still say my best day was beating them 6-2; perhaps it was the horror show of the previous season culminating in a 4-0 (going on 10-0) battering at their midden, but the win was so unexpected never mind being so emphatic. And it was a glorious day in the August sunshine. Back to pub after, lots of drinks with family and friends, an dlot sof singing….superb!!
As for the worst, probably helicopter Sunday and no title stripping will erase the pain of that time. I remember going to Hampden for the final the week after and not giving a toss despite getting the trophy.
Gerry,
Seville was such a fantastic experience for the Celtic supporters that I can’t put it down as a disappointment.
I remember sitting at the edge of the pool, in the park in San Sebastian on the Tuesday, looking up and seeing blue skies and palm trees, thinking what is going on? Are we going to do this?
I met Billy Mcneill there as well with Charlie and the bhoys. Brilliant.
6-2 does take some beating as being 3-0 up against them after 11 mins was the stuff of dreams.
The biggest disappointment for me though isn’t actually losing a game, it was seeing John Kennedy lying on the Hampden turf with his career over.
I think Kennedy would have been a captain of Celtic and Scotland for many years, still gutted! HH
For me:
BEST: 4 – 2.
WORST: Seville.
Funniest: seeing ma brother get lifted at Easter road in aboot 78,huckled by 2 polis around the park.
Ah never even new he was goin to the gemm. ( close family, eh )
4-2? I take it you mean the 1979 title decider?
I was only eight then lol, would have loved to have been at that one.
Charlie Saiz,
I would like to apologise to you for calling you a Noel Hunt on a few occasions recently.
On reflection I have let myself down.
There may be total disagreement at times but I’m not proud to call another Hoops man by that name.
I wold extend that apology to anyone else I have referred to in an insulting manner. HH
Straight back at u pal
Nae bother Monti there are none of us perfect and sometimes emotion can override our decision making at times.
Sure we are all dicks at times …we are men after all 😉
HH
Cool!
Were you at the Pineapple with Charlie today Monti ? This is another Damascus moment Monti. Good on Ya!
Dan,
I dinnae ken if I can get through the night without swearing, I’ve apologised to Ralph though so I better behave lol.
Montizuma you called me a fanny!! But that’s aw right. Been called a lot worse.
HAIL HAIL N aw that!!!
Lol HH
The number 8 in the front row appears to be a time travelling zombie… Danny Wilson
Charlie Saiz is a man who speaks sense. We shouldn’t be railroading anyone out of Celtic Park either for political or religious beliefs. I have a few friends who regularly attend Celtic Park and are Christians and conservatives to boot. Live and let live.
I can live with that.
Bigbananafeet,
” Charlie Saiz is a man who speaks sense “?
Cough, ok. 🙂
On his Grace The Lord Of Parkhead. I’m entertained by the notion that we are open to all points of view and those views can be held even if they conflict with the ethos and original purpose of the club. Of course they cannot. if I am on the board of a company dedicated to vegetarianism and I vote in another capacity for a law to impose meat dishes on society, I compromise my belief system to the point where I would likely be called a hypocrite. Secondly if I use the excuse and say that the House I am a part of has no right to contradict the other elected house, then I give up on the courage of my convictions and I put forward a cowardly excuse for actually voting for what I actually believe. Imagine him voting with a labour government on renationalizing the railways for example. The same logic would apply and I think we all know how he would vote. So for a number of reasons his Grace has compromised his position at Celtic Park. His hypocritical ability to penalize the poor while serving on a Board with a mission to help the poor and his cowardly excuse on why he voted the way he did concerns my greatly about th character of this man. He should do the decent thing. I signed the petition.
My weighty post on Lord Of Parkhead lost – could we find it please thanks
Uncle Tim Brazil is at it again. This time in the quality press The Sunday Post. After last weeks rant in the Sun about our Manager this week he has joined the move along brigade on EBT’ s what a clinically obese cretin . Do me a favour Alan stop pushing your Celtic ness and stay away from Celtic Park . He knows nothing of the issues in Scottish Football but has joined the ex Celtic supporting media buffoons passing uneducated comment in the issues. Darren O’Dea is the only ex player to come out and post his opinions to the mast. Good on ye son might not have been the greatest player,he was good but is on my list of Celtic Hero’s on this issue.
The gist of my post was that Lord Parkhead is a hypocrite and too cowardly to vote based on his strength of conviction if his story is to be belived. That is cause for character concerns about this man. I for one would prefer that he was brave enough to say I voted the way I did because I believe in the policy and then I feel the need to resign from Celtic because they are trying to help those less well off which I really don’t believe in – my post was better this this one and that was the gist
I totally agree BB and at the end of the day, by voting the way he did, he has shown what he is….
There are many other men and women who very are well off with business acumen greater than Lord Parkhead, who also believe in trying to work for a fairer world and trying to alleviate hardship and poverty. That fits the profile for the Celtic Board more closely I think.
I just looked out the windae and there’s two blue moons oot there…Monti and Charlie kissing and making up!!! Who´d a thunk it? lol As for Monti’s offer of an apology toe anyone else he may have offended, I heard a deafening cheer from two or three continents…the bhoy gets around doesn’t he?
You’ve got to admire his passion, and his determination…it cannae be easy tapping a keyboard with yon straitjacket on!! lol.
Good on you Monti. xxx and HH
HH funky Bhoy!
Funkyy,
My moon is Green my friend, Green!
Funky,that was distgusting yet funny.
I think possibly Danny Crainie next to Mahatma Nevin in the middle row ?
Also was Jim McInally trying out a prototype sunbed before the photo ?
We are a club that is open to all.
Tories tho?
Personally I’m disgusted they are on our board!
Monti you need to look in the mirror to spot the cretin.a person doesn’t, become the chairman or whatever of bt by being a cretin.look closer to home. No offence. HH
A bit harsh John, bit harsh.
I will forgive you the insult though as I have done it myself.
John,
Would you like a bowl?
However as I have a good nose for sniffing out Zombies, you will have to pay up front.
Monti are you going to counselling per chance?
I disagree with you John, Dave King is the chairman of your ‘ football club ‘ and he most definitely is a cretin!
In fact, I’m beginning to…….no don’t say it Monti, breathe! Lol
Well hullo Tassie, tell me are there many Tims in the Apple Isle???
‘Ive never been to Tassie but will get there some day; heard its beautiful. Ah had a good mate fae Burnie many years ago, ah met him in Europe wi his Dutch girlfriend, made me think one day I’ll get to Australia.
HAIL HAIL N aw that!
Ralph,
John in Tasmania has just called me a cretin…..I’m extremely hurt by this offensive choice of words…..lol
Monti you can always ask him to explain what is colloquially known as ‘the map of Tasmania’ Clue: you called me one:)
Ralph, I take offence at Charlie Saiz’ post where he states “…..there are none of us perfect”….ahem!!!!!
Then your a bigger perfectionist than I had you down for Funkyy 😉
ON THIS DATE IN CELTIC HISTORY!
15/11/1961
CELTIC 7 ST.MIRREN 1
Att: 22,000.
‘mon the Hoops!
night night tims. no swearing!
Goodnight jim
Hi Monti like the daily ranger I’m a day late in replying but time difference etc.11 hours.no hun here,been a Celtic fan since a15 year old.i came late to the game.first match v Sparta Rotterdam 5-1.suffered through some really crap times early to mid sixties.worked in fairfields,a hotbed of hunnery.hun scarves everywhere but the first time I wore my Celtic scarf to work was threatened by somebody they would drop a bag of bolts on my head.got the bag for jumpin the wa’.best thing that happened to me.went to the caterpillar at tannochside,great job great money plenty of tims there.emigrated 1969 never looked back.oz the best country in the world.been back a couple of times it was as bad as I remembered.first time 1994 went to parkhied just in time to see the great Wayne biggins…not .could not believe how bad we were,shades of the early sixties.i follow the boys here on bein sports which took over from setanta two years ago.celtic’s form has been erratic to say the least since nfl quit but we live in hope.we should still be strong enough to do ten in a row at least but let’s not get blase about it.hopefully Ashley will serve the sfa their arse on a plate dave cockhead king.enough waffling from me come and see Tasmania a lot of similarities to Scotland but few Huns.map of tassie covered by female equivalent of budgie smugglers.tassie also known colloquially as the land of the abc…apples ,beer and c..t . HH
Lol HH
Post missing after working my bingers to the fone not happy Ralph yours in anticipation of a wrong being righted John Mccloy HH
ON THIS DAY IN CELTIC HISTORY!
16/11/1974
Ronnie Glazing signs for Celtic and makes his debut v Airdrieonians.
Celtic 6 Airdrie 0
Glazing?????
Glavin!!!
Doh!
I see you guys have taken advantage of the window of opportunity……
Cr Smith was in goals for Aidrie 😉
Enough already 🙂
We feel your pane Monti
I think I’ve been framed….
Putty in my hand son 🙂
wae all this talk of no swearing i said to my grandson stop that swearing charlie he said fuckins no swearing granda its shaggin ha ha
Question:
If we lose to Ajax and Fenerbahce, going out with our tail between our legs, apart from bottom of the group, where does this leave us?
P.S. Don’t want to get into the old arguments about Deila though, I want him out because I believe the football club is big enough to do well in Scotland and compete in Europe, at the moment we are not competing.
If we lose these next two games, should we start again with a new manager? I would!
if we win the treble surely it would be wrong to sack the manager no ?? if we don’t win the treble I can see ronny getting the sack and someone else brought in. just my opinion of course
Selkirk,
Where I’m coming from is this, Celtic need the finances associated with European football in order to grow the team and the club.
Would you accept a treble at the cost of European football?
Is the domestic treble enough for the supporters?
Is Europe something to not bother with?
Ronny Deila this season is showing up badly in Europe, I would give up both domestics cups every season if we were winning the League and getting into the CL.
If European Football means making up the numbers in a second rate tournament, it may well not be worth bothering about.
Tom,
I agree, Celtic are a Champions league club, unfortunately at the moment we aren’t a Champions league team!
The team needs a few quality signings to bring on the best of the young players already here.
The Europa league isn’t to be sniffed at, but Thursday, Sunday football is a pain in the back side……or should that be pane!
Hoi Dermot
Great news today..the G20 agree a massive increase in Airport Security…I mind Private Eye highlighting that’s why you had John Reid on the board back in his day, for those Airport Security contacts……you will be quids in now son!
Monti wis framed!!!!