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Celtic Diary Monday August 17; The Truth Is Out There….

 

but not in the papers, it seems, which, it appears, are moving even further to just being a collection of opinions.

Sitting here with this mornings paper and my phone  battery, I managed to work out the difference. The battery, at least, has a positive side.

Looking back at yesterdays papers, however, and theres a more sinister side to the family title “Sunday Post ” , the rag which once held the record for having virtual saturation amongst its possible readership.

From its own website;

Sunday Post

The Sunday Post is nothing short of an institution. Scotland’s favourite family newspaper, for 100 years we have reflected our brand values of fairness and decency. The paper is loved by our loyal army of readers, with over 214,000 copies sold every Sunday across the circulation area of Scotland and the north of England. 

Fairness and decency ? Unless you were, up until relatively recently, catholic and wanted a job at owners D C Thomson, , there may be something in that.

Of course, the Sunday Post is synonymous with Oor Wullie and The Broons, and the antics of these legendary comic characters still give pleasure to many thousands of young and old readers every Sunday. 

Now they have a new feature, in the sports section.

Oor Dick.

Or Gordon Smith, billed, incredibly, as “The Man In The Know.”

Except , of course, when the questions get a little tricky. Like when he’s asked about Dave King, or Craig Whyte .

As the shareholders and fans have already shown they appreciate, the new man in charge of Rangers is someone who knows the club very well.

 

Dave King has spent his life supporting the team, and is a former director who was on the Board when I was Director of Football.

At least, I think he was!

I never knew for sure because Craig Whyte never held any Board meetings.

It sounds bizarre, but it was true. John Greig, John McClelland and Gary Withey were directors. I knew that because they used to come in to Ibrox. But while I understood King was also on the Board, I couldn’t be sure – in much the same way I never knew what Whyte himself was up to.

Anyway, yesterday, The Man In The Know Except When He Isn’t gave us his tuppence worth on Scott Allan moving to Celtic. Within it there is everything that is wrong , not only with journalism in Scotland, , but with the perception of society in certain circles.

For those of you who think this diary spends a little too much time on stories from Ibrox, you might have a point. but try to look at the bigger picture. We are witnessing the end of an era, an era that may have gone some way to defining who we are as well, and as predicted when the old club died a few years ago, the old guard are intent on taking as many down with them as they can.

Plus, their ramblings are funny as fuck.

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SCOTT ALLAN must be a brave man. 

How so, oh wise one ?

 Rangers have missed out on their number one signing target, his choice of Celtic as new employers rubbing salt in their wounds. 

Thats because, according to John James of the RSl, one of the things they could not give their number one signing target was, in fact, a signing on fee. And the boy wants to play at a higher level.

Hibs have seen their Championship challenge diminished through the loss of their best player.

They have got Liam Henderson in as part of the deal, but that will only marginally soften the blow. 

Smith has obviously never seen Henderson play. Or Stephen McGinn, brought in earlier, or Dylan McGoeuch, who joins Hibernian permanently, at no charge, because the team sheet compilers at Celtic couldn’t spell his name. Well, no-one can. not even him.

Ultimately it is the 23-year-old Allan himself who is going to have to live with the consequences of his decision. 

Medals, fan worship, Premier League football, champions League football, improved quality of player around him, financial long term security, top class coaching excellent training facilities, sports science facilities and a signing on fee.

Yeah, it’s going to be tricky.

As a lifelong Light Blues fan, he surely knows what he has done. 

Followed a path taken by the likes of Danny McGrain, Kenny Dalglish and Davie Provan ? Didn’t do them any harm.

The Ibrox support, of which he was part, will regard him as nothing more than a turncoat. 

In the same way they rejected the re-appearance of Kenny miller, still the only player to play for all three ” Old Firm ” clubs ?

His move to request a transfer in the wake of successive failed bids from Rangers signalled a clear desire to move to the club. 

Er, no. It signalled a desire to move.

The Light Blues’ faithful know he could have waited out Hibs’ “we-won’t-sell-to-Rangers” stance for a year to join for nothing under free agency next summer. 

Note the attribution of the opinion to the Ibrox support, when in fact he’s stating his own.

And that he could have rejected Celtic’s approach to ensure himself hero status on Glasgow’s south side. 

Football is an unpredicatable game. He had the chance to join the top club in the country, and took it. Just like every single  player at ibrox would, given the chance

I also believe that the judgement from fans of his new club is not going to be kind, either. 

And here we have it. The perception that we , too, are bigots. The old two sides of the same coin argument. One of the more recent “turncoats ” who joined Celtic after playing at Ibrox , Stepehn Pressley, said , in april 2011;

“They (Celtic] embraced me with open arms. I had a fabulous two years at the club. ” 

Many of them will see him as a mercenary Bluenose. 

None that I know of.

So if things don’t go well, Scott Allan has a real test of his mental strength ahead of him. 

Thats the same for any new player at any new club.

At the moment, Rangers and Celtic are in different divisions. But in a year’s time, he could easily find himself asked to run out at Ibrox in a Premiership fixture. 

Yes, he could. Footballers play against their boyhood heroes all the time.

If selected. 

Yes, if selected. It’s possible because Deila will probably rest a few players against a newly promoted side with his eye on bigger, more important games against European or domestic opposition.

Don’t forget Allan has joined a squad with no shortage of attacking talent. 

It’s called moving up a level. A career move, to test yourself amongst the best.

Stefan Johansen, Stuart Armstrong, Gary Mackay-Steven, James Forrest, Kris Commons and, for the moment anyway, Anthony Stokes, are all contenders for the three advanced midfield roles. 

At Hibs he had an elevated status as a player, acknowledged as the club’s best and, last season, the Championship’s most exciting talent. 

Is he hinting the lad should have stayed in the second tier, having reached his level ? a sort of “know your place ? ” .

At Celtic he is going to have to scrap for every opportunity.

So will he be good enough to justify the gamble he has taken? 

I think the point he is missing here, and making in a round about way, is that he is not good enough for Celtic, but would be a star at Ibrox. Why not come out and say that, despite the pain it would cause ?

It is a question that has run in tandem with speculation over the midfielder’s future over the last few weeks.

Having learned the answer to the first question, I believe we will soon also know the answer to the second.

Allan once again has access to regular top-flight football and – more enticingly for the player, I am sure – could soon be playing against some of the world’s very biggest clubs.

Whether Celtic will compete in the Champions League or the Europa League group stages remains to be seen.

Either way, they have some massive matches ahead of them.

I think Allan is a talented young player. But as to whether he is going to be good enough at European level, I am just not sure. 

But he’d be a star at Ibrox, in the second tier. Perhaps other footballers should take note. Play at a level beneath your capabilities and you’ll be a hero.

This is a guy who failed to make it in England with West Brom, after all. 

but would be a star at ibrox…..

So why have the Hoops bought him now?  

Ronny has seen something he likes. My concrn, and only concern, is that the Norwegian has a habit of using a one in one out policy. Who could be leaving ?

Stokes ?

Commons ?

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Clearly Rangers fans will say it has been done for devilment. That they have signed him because they can and the Light Blues can’t. 

There might be something to that. They know the rivalry will be back soon enough, so moving to deny Mark Warburton the services of his top target must have held some appeal. 

Ah, it’s to make Rangers weaker. Next year. when they will be pushing for a champions league place.

One argument I haven’t seen made yet amid all the hullabaloo is that Celtic have actually moved to help Rangers get up to the Premiership and get money-spinning Old Firm games back on the agenda. 

Yeah, there’s a reason for that…

That by buying Hibs’ best player they have deliberately weakened the club who are the biggest threat to a Rangers’ title win, and made it more likely they will be champions. 

So, Celtic have weakened Hibernian by taking their best player, and simultaneously weakened Rangers, as he pointed out at the top, by taking their top target.

Well, you can’t say he hasn’t covered the waterfront.

Remember where you heard it first! 

I think one or two of us will not only remember it, but remind him of it in the months and years to come.

But wait, he might have a point. !

“Scott wasn’t even in the dressing-room door and Charlie Mulgrew was winding him up. It will remain behind closed doors but was great banter from the likes of Charlie and Scott Brown.

“It was good fun but I am sure Scott will take it right in his stride.”  

So says Leigh Griffiths, who was not spotted standing on the treatment table singing about roaming in the gloaming with a shamrock in his hand.

I never understood that song. The words I mean.

” Right, dear, i’m off out for a roam. Have you seen my shamrock ? “

Many of us have friends who supported the Ibrox side. some have friends who support the new club. There is a lot of harmless banter between the two sides, and there is a minority who are full time idiots.

I’m quite sure that the heckling will be good natured, and it’s more a test of whether Allan can give it out as well as take it, a common theme in dressing rooms all around the world.

I very much doubt, for instance, that kit man John Clark will be refusing to look after Allan’s gear.

Griffiths continued;

 “I’m not surprised he got a good reception. Celtic fans will welcome anyone.

“It won’t be an issue. It doesn’t matter if you support Rangers of East Stirling. As soon as you pull on that Celtic jersey the fans will take to you straight away.”

The forward had said last week that he hoped he stayed at Hibs, what could he have possibly meant by wishing the top man would stay at his boyhood heroes ?

 “I was talking from a Hibs perspective and them getting out of that league. It’s great to have him on board and we’ll welcome him to training on Monday. He’ll want to prove a point.

“I know him really well from the Under-21 games. He’s a good player who likes to make things happen. I am sure he will be a good addition.”  

Another article caught the eye yesterday, in the Sunday Mail;

Gordon Waddell: If field of Scottish football is

fertile enough for Celts to sign up best, why can’t they grow their own?

 Celtic’s Academy, it seems, isn’t doing it’s job…

They spend £2million-plus every year on an academy set-up, on getting their younger kids hundreds of extra hours with the ball at their feet at their own performance school at St Ninian’s.

Yet there’s clearly a glass ceiling for their development players to actually develop.

It’s a proven fact that only first-team experience can turn you into a fully-fledged first-team player.  

Quite a few from the Academy at Lennoxtown are making a living from the game, which is why they learn their trade in the first place. And there are more than a few currently on loan elsewhere getting, er, first team experience..

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A little bit of research before you put pen to paper next time, perhaps ?

I shouldn’t really criticise him. sometimes he does do research, and lets us know what he found…

Er, thanks for that. but it’s The Rangers, or Rangers International, or something like that.

Happy to help.

Need to be careful what I say here, as Irish journalist Phil MacGhiollabhan criticised the article yesterday, and Waddel was none too pleased.

Deflection. Damage limitation.   

Y’know, so many people have told me what a total fuckwit you are, I just never bothered to check. Saved me the trouble. Ta.   

Back to Celtic, and there is talk of Gary Hooper returning to the club.

No, not for the Malmo game, but as a striker.

It’s in the super soaraway Sun, oh, okay.

He’s not coming then.

It’s the traditional buy or sell prelude to the champions league group stages.

If we go through, we can spend money.

If we don’t , we won’t.

So the press tell us, and to be honest, this might be about the only thing that they consistently get right.

It’s not just a case of whether Celtic will spend, but whether the player sought will actually come. The Champions League is a big selling point.

Significantly, the policy is top prospects from Scotland, and top prospects from England who have seen their careers stall.

Boyata saw what Celtic did for Jason Denaayer. Janko a little less clear, but maybe Lustig is van Dijks replacement, and Janko his if he moves to centre half.

 The Scots lads knew what they were getting into, and have become, if they weren’t already, Celtic Minded.

We know we should have got the top men in to make the group stages, but sometimes we have to shop in the market available to us.

And to be honest, I’m not iverly comfortable with the idea that players have endured the stress and effort required to qualify, should they do so, only to be discarded in favour of another mercenary who might not do what it says on his tin, and chuck it the first time it rains in October.

In that sense, I’d take Hooper. He knows where the net is, he knows what the clubs about, and for those who say you should never go back, ask this guy what he thinks…

The monkey at the typewriter got some great replies yesterday, so we’ll do another caption competition today;

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Cortes
8 years ago

You say Delia I say Deila, let’s call the whole thing off.

Devoy45
8 years ago

“Ah, just think, in a few days I won’t be sitting like this on my arse anymore. Hooper=Hoops. Makes sense.I can feel my net bulge just thinking about it!”

Ralph Malph. A great diary. Facts speak volumes. I hadn’t realized we were such a nursery for the rest of Scottish football!

Scott Allan, play good football like we know you can and you will always be welcome here. If you know our history…

Lustig can also play centre back so that may also be an option in the future.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Devoy45

Lustig has let it be known several times in the past he see’s himself moving into the CB position in the future.
I don’t think he is cut out for the constant overlapping required as a wingback myself.
Neither does he by the sounds of it.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago

I would not read too much into the one in one out policy regarding Allan.
As of yet he’s not proved anything at Celtic and at £275k is nothing more than a punt.
As Commons was when he arrived.
It’s about hopefully improving the level of your entire squad for a full Domestic and European campaign.
Commons is not getting any younger he’s certainly not getting any quicker and so will most likely be used more sparingly as the Seasons progress.
At the moment he is playing second fiddle to Johansen who most would agree adds more energy and dynamism to the Attack.
We seem now to be targeting the best of Scottish talent and Allan comes under this.
I expect similar signings next summer and a few going out who aren’t producing the goods any more.
Stokes,Boerrigter,Scepovic could all be offloaded soon if they don’t buck their ideas up.
Such is life.
Same in any other job.

Londonbhoy
8 years ago

Looks like you can’t spell McGeouch either Ralph!

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Londonbhoy

How Hooper is not getting a start at Norwich is beyond me?
Cameron Jerome ffs.

mr greene
8 years ago

Caption.

See if I say I’m the new Huns No.1 signing target,do you thank Celtic will come in and take me back to paradise ®

bgbhoy
8 years ago

stokes hasnt even been reporting for training every day!! he is surley finished with celtic… wouldnt be missed either in my opinion…. still need a PROVEN goalscorer which sounds like is already a done deal providing we can make the group stages

andybhoy
8 years ago

I am neither up or down about the Gary Hooper rumours, but suffice to say, he will always live in my memory as the man who put the final nail in the coffin of the forces of darkness that sunny (hilarious) April day in 2012.

tony carlin
8 years ago

Caption: never mind Djokovic and smelling dope on court, has someone farted or has a Sevconite just walked past?

elcormaco
8 years ago

been away on a superb 3 week break in deepest darkest county Sligo. Last I saw bears were urging Scot Allan to “hand it in” and make his dream move to Ibrox happen. Have I missed much ; )
At 23 Allan’s still got some development left in him but he plays in an area of the pitch I dont think we are short in, and seems to have the typical scottish player problem, no real pace or change of pace. I d be looking at left back, centre half and striker if the Scep is not going to get a chance (which seems the case)
I was able to watch our last few games over there, thought the killie game was great old game of football, and we ll win more than we lose playing like that, (dont know what others thought about the penalty, I thought the lad bought it and there was not much Izzy could do to get out of his way, and the ref couldnt wait to poiint to the spot) the qualifying game was a rare beast – a comfortable Celtic away performance in Europe where the result we wanted never looked in mmuch danger – Bitton is growing in stature game by game, I love his calm style and technique, reminds me of Lambert, one of my favourite ever celts, and another who it is said had allegainces to another Glasgow club but who was accepted by Celtic fans immedidtealy they saw him play and who I m sure has taken to Celtic in the same way we took to him.
Hooper Icant see returning, its about wages as ever, he’ll have to drop his wages or if he comes on loan Norwich will have to subsidise the deal.

Any way roll on Malmo, I ve got a feeling Armstrong could be key, his movement into the box is excellent and he seems to thrive on the big games, hope I m right,

Admin
8 years ago

We are all Scott Allan!

George lazenby
8 years ago

I’ll never wash this hand while I can still smell the glove.

bgbhoy
8 years ago

actually almost choked on my lunch….. a zombie siting next to me was looking all morning at a rangers blog… he left his computer unlocked so i had a quick glance at what he was reading… they are actually talking about building 3rd tiers on there stadium… they want the capacity up to 80k!!!! i mean seriously, what planet are these people on? not only do they believe that they will win the premiership next season they are talking about a 30k increase on there capacity after beating a part time team 5-1!!?? they honestly have no hope

Cartvale88
8 years ago

Two minded about Scott Allan however enjoying the vitriol from the dark side. He is perceived by some from the dark side as the prodigal son who has turned his back on his true calling at Sevco. Excellent article, gave up buying the Sinday Post and others years ago as everything at Paradise is in the negative.
The joy of seeing another English Premier Leafue loan deal being hailed in the same terms as there twelve millionth d buys under Advocaat makes u laugh. Onwards and upwards for to Malmo game.
The caption competition is ‘ I am not a diver’ unlike some Killie players.

Geo
8 years ago

A zombie stays down stairs from me, after yesterday’s game we had a brief chat and he is in no doubt that Warburton has turned them in to world beaters and they would skelp us if we draw them in a cup, a just shook my head and laughed.

Never argue with an idiot cause if anyones listening they will not know who the idiot is………..

Devoy45
8 years ago

In all fairness to Sevco, they haven’t played anybody in footballing terms yet. Their showboating fullbacks would be shown up by any decent team with pace and flair and they have yet to keep a clean sheet.
Warburton is probably a pretty decent coach, especially in the wake of the monster-munch brigade they have had in the past. They’ll win their league finally, unless the tax man shuts them down again.

Devoy45
8 years ago

Delete “again”. I was thinking of a previous team that died in 2012.

Steve Naive
8 years ago

Interview for College journalism course and then onto practice with Scottish Universal Newspapwes June ’78, well qualified already and even more so in the results that August
3 man panel..
‘What are your interests ‘?
Me..’Sports, reading ‘blah blah…
‘What kind of sports’?
‘Football golf fishing…’
‘Do you play for any teams’ ?
‘Yeah school team…just won the Lanarshire Cup’
‘What school is that’/ (despite the fact he can read it)
‘Columba High’
…’And what do you do when not playing sports’ ?
‘Go watch sports’
AND HERE IT COMES…
‘Who do you go watch ‘?
‘Celtic’
Never got on the course…feedback was that my’standard of English wasn’t high enough’ despite getting an ‘A’ in Sixth Year Studies, an ‘A’level and four ‘Highers’
Maybe shouldn’t have said ‘blah blah’
Was a good World Cup though !

Devoy45
8 years ago

Dogs and Irish need not apply. Blah, blah…
We are/were all Steve Naive.

What school did you go to?
What team do you support?
Your middle name is…Sean?
etc. etc.
Have things improved since 1978?

Bgbhoy
8 years ago

IMG_1632.PNG If that’s not a fake I hope the wee prick rots in the development squad. Sending a player of Hendersons ability and background away from the club for a zombie isn’t good enough.

Bgbhoy
8 years ago

It’s not working. Scot Allan tweeting that he had to turn off ss2 the night we won 3 in a row with a emoji with a surgical mask covering the face

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