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Breaking the family bond

 

Reader Alzipratu sends in this submission:

The following is a letter I wrote to Peter Lawwell and the board of Celtic Football Club in April 2013.  I have decided to post it now because I believe we are at the final end-game in the Rangers/Sevco switcheroo; a sham and a conspiracy that was planned several years ago and which has been allowed and, indeed, positively encouraged by the football authorities with the tacit and possibly express acquiescence of clubs including Celtic FC.  We all know the actors, we all know the story and we are all the victims – every Scottish football fan, even Rangers fans

Dear Peter

Please find enclosed my Celtic football scarf that was given to me by my mother in 1976. I am sending it to you and the Board of Celtic as a token of my disgust at the farce that is Scottish football and, Rangers Football Club, in particular.

I grew up in Glasgow within hearing distance of Celtic Park and would, until I was allowed to go to games, stand on European nights on Edinburgh Road watching the lights gleaming in the night sky and listening to the roar of the crowd; the thunder, as our manager so eloquently put it. That little piece of ground was my dreamworld; the home of Jinky, Buzzbomb, Caeser, Bertie, Big Tam and before them Johnny Thompson, Patsy Gallagher, Jimmy McGrory and Charlie Tully. As the 70s progressed, I found new heroes: Johnny Doyle, Kenny Dalglish, Shuggy Edvalson, Roy Aitken, Danny McGrain and then the Maestro, Big Packie, Chicken George, Charlie Nic, through to Henke, Lubo, Big Bobo and Naka.

But these were more than heroes; they were legends, they were icons, they were colossuses who could transport you into a different world like Greek myths of old. And so was their hunting ground; Celtic Park. Because it wasn’t just a football ground. It was a home; and a safe home. Sure we’d lose the odd game but we always knew it was our Paradise. It was a place where we could hope and pray and dream.  And as our old fundamental beliefs and anchorage points – jobs, Church, Ireland – began to disappear in the face of an economic and secular maelstrom, Celtic Park gave our community that rallying point, that safe anchorage. No matter that some of us were spat on and attacked and abused for our religious beliefs or ethnicity or footballing allegiance, Celtic Park was our communal refuge where no one could touch us.

So I grew up dreaming. At first, I dreamt I was Jinky, then King Kenny, then the maestro. I wanted to play for the club so much, I used to walk to Barrowfield to watch the Boys Club train until I finally got a chance. Nobody could ever describe that feeling when you pull on that jersey for the first time. It was electric. It was awe-inspiring. It made me – a daft wee Glasgow boy – the king of the world. I was Samson, I was Hercules, I was Ulysses. Dare I say it, I was Jinky, I was Caeser, I was the Maestro. A gladiator stepping out to do battle for good against evil. A legend. I was one of them. A hero.

No matter that I wasn’t good enough to make a career as a footballer; I had worn that jersey, I had lived the dream.

Time went on and I left Glasgow and Scotland to seek work; thankfully exiled from the painful years. But by God, you should’ve seen the tears and the party on 9th May 1998 in a wee corner of Cornwall listening to a very tinny BBC Radio.

And in those exile years, through houses and jobs and girlfriends, one thing remained constant; my love for Celtic. It may sound like a cliche but it IS more than a football club.  Celtic has been the inspiration for my life and work; it is an expression of my upbringing, culture, society, hopes and aspirations.  The Club’s founding and abiding principles of charity, social enterprise, fair play, equality and social responsibility have inspired and guided my life and career such that my career has been entirely focussed on helping those at greatest disadvantage in society. And I know I am not alone. Brother Walfrid didn’t just start a football club, he galvanised a community and inspired millions.

Now we discover through a multitude of objective evidence that Rangers have cheated for at least 11 years on an unprecedented scale in British, if not world, sport. And worse, the authorities propose to let them off with no more than a slap on the wrist as if they’ve been caught chewing gum in the classroom?

Let’s be honest, this is far greater than Lance Armstrong or Ben Johnson or any other of the cheats who have dragged sport into the gutter.  This was a deliberate and calculated act designed to place one club, and one club alone, at the pinnacle of Scottish football over a sustained 11-year period with ne’er a thought for any other club or, indeed, the collective interests of Scottish football.  The only parallel I can find is the systematic performance-enhancement programme carried out by the former East German athletics.

I watched in disbelief last summer as the authorities tried their best to somehow shoehorn a new club into the SPL in the face of justice, integrity, precedent and the rules. I was reassured then by the club’s stance, believing the club was right to say as little as possible to prevent vested interests turning it into a Celtic-Rangers battleground that would distract from reality.

I won’t go into it in any more detail because you, I, and everyone in Scottish football knows it; Rangers Football Club should have been expelled from the leagues in June 2012 because they were (are in process) liquidated. Good for the fans that a new club has been formed (although disgraceful that they have chosen to continue and even strengthen the sectarianism) however that new club should have applied to join SFL3 and been judged fairly in line with existing SFA/SFL rules in competition with any other applicants such as Spartans, etc.

I now watch in disbelief as the governing bodies decide that 11 years of cheating can be swept under the carpet on the ridiculous notion that over 70 players are not ineligible because their registrations were accepted at the time by the SFA. There is copious dissection of this judgement by some pretty learned people on the internet but we can boil it down to three very simple words: miscarriage of justice.

Yet this is no miscarriage occasioned by mistake or misinterpretation or simple human error.  Like the crime itself this is a deliberate and calculated act designed to appease the mob and one single club.

It has been widely reported by the media, and indeed stated by both Neil Doncaster and Stewart Regan, that Scottish football needs a strong Rangers to survive.  This is, of course, complete and utter tosh.  That several Scottish clubs find themselves on the brink of financial ruin is down to several simple issues:

  • The need to spend large amounts of capital on improving and upgrading their stadiums in light of all-seater rules;
  • Borrowing said funds from Gavin Masterton at the Bank of Scotland and being ripped off by Masterton and his cronies (including Sir David Murray) with over-priced and over-capacity stadiums;
  • The cycle of debt which clubs got into by trying to match or at least keep up with the steroid-bloated Rangers created by David Murray on a mountain of unsustainable debt provided by his friend Masterton;
  • The distorted financial distribution model in Scottish football between the SPL and SFL as well as within the SPL itself;
  • The financial muscle of the English game since the advent of Sky Sports and the EPL which has driven player salaries across Europe through the roof to unsustainable levels, allied to the implications of the Bosman ruling giving players almost complete power;
  • The unfettered promotion of the EPL on our doorstep as the “world’s greatest league” and unfettered access to this on TV without any compensation to Scottish football;
  • The often-poor quality of the product and service for the paying customer;
  • The ridiculous cost charged by clubs to watch a match coupled with the myriad of alternative ways in which people could spend their money;
  • Extremely poor governance and management by a large number of clubs, the SFA, SPL and SFL;
  • Scottish football finding its natural equilibrium within European football based upon (a) its population and (b) the level of investment in football coaching and facilities;

Not one of these issues can ever be solved by “a strong Rangers”.  Indeed, given that Rangers were culpable in several of them (I leave others to decide how much of the blame should be laid at their door), it is ridiculous to even begin to suggest that we are all better off with them because it will be worse without them.  I call that the “domestic abuse defence”: it is better to keep the abuser within the family as otherwise the family will be destitute.  Inother words better to be beaten and abused than to be poor.

But please don’t take my word for it.  Look at the emerging figures for attendances at SPL clubs without Rangers this season and then read the annual reports on the state of Scottish football finances by Deloitte LLP; every single one highlights how fans paying at the turnstile are the financial lifeblood of the game in Scotland.  Whilst an important source of revenue, television is a bit-part player for all but Celtic.

A friend of mine carried out some analysis based upon figures produced by clubs themselves and which he posted on social media sites.  This highlighted how small increases in fans attending games at all clubs would mitigate the loss of Rangers; less than 6% for all clubs, with Motherwell and Kilmarnock requiring the largest increase of 5.5%, and Celtic and Hearts requiring the lowest increase of 1.3%.  Those figures are for the entire season not per game.

I think, to be fair, there may be an element of fear at play here: fear of the mob and fear of financial meltdown.  However, fear is no reason to paralyse the game.  Nor is it reason to kill justice and integrity.

Instead, I can only surmise bigotry and bias; that certain people within the authorities have deliberately done what they could to ensure the survival of Rangers FC and, when this was not possible, done everything they could to pretend that the new club are the old club contrary to every rule within the book and even UK and Scots law.  Would they have done the same for any other club?  Absolutely not; one only has to look at Dunfermline, Airdrieonians, Gretna, Livingston, etc or even our own club in 1994 to see the answer.

That the authorities twisted and turned and ignored every rule in the book and the very spirit of the laws have led us to this point where we have a new club pretending to be the old club when and where it suits them and will be given every help required to facilitate their entry to the SPL and avoid punishment.  It is incredible beyond belief that the SFA’s own registration compliance officer gave evidence to the inquiry that because Rangers hadn’t declared their use of dual contracts at the time, the contracts that had been submitted were perfectly valid!  That is a decision and a judgement worthy of the worst banana republic and kangaroo court, made all the more unpalatable because it fundamentally and fatally killed the case against Rangers.

I ask the question, where will it stop?  When they are in the SPL?  Or will they require a helping hand to access Champions League monies?  What if they struggle in the SPL, will they be relegated?  Will they be guaranteed a top six finish to ensure broadcasters and the mob are kept happy?

It needs to stop and it us becoming very clear that only one club has the power and standing to stop it: Celtic.  That the board have not done so and have not publicly reassured the fans is, in my eyes, criminal and a dereliction of your duty as stewards and custodians of our club.  The perception is that the “Old Firm” pound – with all the sectarian bile, violence and hatred that goes with it – is more important to you than justice and integrity.

As of today, I give up on Celtic because I will not participate in this sham.  I have better things to spend my time, emotions and money on.  I will not purchase any merchandise.  I will not renew my season ticket.  I will not attend any games.  I will not encourage my children to watch or support Celtic.  It breaks my heart but the bond is broken.

It may not die today.  It may not die tomorrow.  But Scottish football has signed its own death warrant because it is no longer a competitive sport.

Yours regretfully

Alzipratu

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Shugster
10 years ago

Well thought out and delivered summation of what has happened to Scottish football over the past 10yrs …… I like you have given up my season ticket etc and will not be back ….it was a very painful decision ………

Danboo
10 years ago

No point sending it to Liewell. Desmonds the problem.

BOBO
10 years ago
Reply to  Danboo

how is Desmond the problem?

RWE
10 years ago

A load of attention seeking rubbish.

Returning your scarf – what an infantile gesture.

Putting it all in an adolescent blog article – another infantile gesture.

Arbitrary conclusions drawn on the basis of personal whim and fancy.
“It is becoming clear”… “In my eyes” …”the perception is”…

The words used in self serving arguments everywhere.

After generations of family supporting Celtic, after all that the club has endured in Scotland just to survive (1994?), all that the club has endured on the field and culturally in Scotland, the writer cuts his ties and those of his children forever and completely for what reason?

Lack of success, financially bankrupt, clear evidence of any wrongdoing…. No…

Because HE doesn’t feel that the club have done enough to take advantage of the current crisis in Scottish football. HE has no idea what is happening, HE has no idea what the club have done and are doing, HE has no insider information. In the absence of any public pronouncement by the club of which he approves, which would only serve to feed those who would use it to attack Celtic, he actually believes that his only choice is to post this rubbish and to send his scarf to Celtic’s CEO. Graves are spinning if this nonsense is true.

Cringeworthy, infantile and pathetic.

No wonder you have gone off the boil Etims.

You are becoming irrelevant.

RWE
10 years ago
Reply to  Desi Mond

Desi

Appreciate your feedback. I think you need to make it clearer that articles are from readers and represent the readers’ own views. If I thought that this represented the editorial stance from Etims (is there one?) then I’d be disappointed.

Admin
10 years ago
Reply to  RWE

The author has expressed his views. They are certainly worth thinking about. Thats kind of our editorial stance. Its for him and him alone to decide whether he wants to continue supporting Celtic, and he has fully explained why he has come to his decision. Personally, i think thats up to him, and I can see why he has done what he has done. celtic do need to do more about the scandal over at Ibrox. It cannot be allowed to escape un noticed. Though I think we should be putting pressure on the club to at least tell us where they stand.

RWE
10 years ago
Reply to  Ralph Malph

Actually, Ralph…he hasn’t done anything of the sort. He offers no reasons for his decision at all. He simply states his opinion on matters about which he has no knowledge. We can all tailor our rhetoric to comply with our prejudices but that neither makes them real reasons nor worth sharing on a public blog.

Without any attempt to lay out any logical case for it, he claims that only Celtic are able to fix things, and since he is unaware of anything being done by the board, the board must be derelict in their duty. Thus, he is entitled to cut his ties with the club and sends his scarf in the post. Jeezo.

10 years ago
Reply to  RWE

RWE,
Sadly the section on WordPress where we put the actual Author doesnt show up on front page so it shows whoever loaded the article. Have added namecheck at start as well as original one at the end.

As for an Editorial from Etims, hahaha, more chance an apology from David Murray. We dont agree on anything, Celtic or otherwise and thats exactly why we encourage and publish all Celtic views here. The arguments on this topic alone show it’s well merited.

For us to even think of passing on our thoughts as something so grand as an Editorial is just beyond the pale, we’ll leave such gestures to others who are more comfortable in that role.

We’re just a site, standing in the rain, asking a bhoy or ghirl to love them! ( copyright Richard Curtis CSC)

Admin
10 years ago
Reply to  Desimond

I don’t agree with that.

RWE
10 years ago
Reply to  Desimond

Desi
Thanks for the feedback on that issue. I see that the writer’s name and attribution have been added at the top. HH

Markybhoy
10 years ago
Reply to  RWE

That’s right, you keep taking it like the victim you were born and are content to be. Keep playing your part.

Jim larkin
10 years ago

The man is spot on.

celtic are indeed complicit in the cheating which has been perpetrated by Rangers*
And the SFA.

I too have given up my season book, stopped buying merchandise, I will never again give money to Sky or indeed any bookies.

The whole of scottish football is taking every “supporter’ for a ride and fleecing them of their cash.

(After all the dual contracts, shredding of documents, Tax evasion and Bryson reinterpreting rules which saw Spartans thrown out of a competition, we have a player actively betting on games he played in, and getting off with a 3 game ‘ban’).

Corruption to the core, and Celtic ARE in on it.

Tam McGraw
10 years ago

That isn’t a letter, Desi Mond…..it’s a full-length book! Talk about long-winded???….

Tom McArdle
10 years ago

Hail, Hail, a wonderfully thought out piece of eloquence. No bitterness ( leave that for them ), simply an observation of a Celtic fan. The mainstream media would wish to brainwash and condition the people of Scotland as to the country and its national sport, the need of a flourishing entity that we all know, died of shame. Scottish football will survive without the cheating and strutting self importance of entities that claim to be Scottish in their outlook when they sing songs of praise related to Dutch princes and foreign shores. Since when did Scotland need or require the comfort of English parliamentary authority, or governance of a monarchy whose roots are more German than British ?

daviebhoy
10 years ago

sorry to hear your plans. Have you never heard the words “We shall overcome” If our forefathers gave up, there would be none of us here today. Sad Sad article, it you I feel sorry for.
HH

Markybhoy
10 years ago
Reply to  daviebhoy

My auld man also told me not to let anyone take the piss. Our Board voted for the re-coronation of Campbell Ogilvie! Overcome that.

10 years ago

..you will not be encouraging your children to support Celtic..

Sorry, cant ensorse that.

You would willingly and knowingly shield your own flesh and blood away from one of the finest things on this planet!?

Forget the rollercoaster ride – the highs are higher than everything else bar the joys our own children bring to us.

Breaking the family bond is a very ironic title for your article.

A fan
10 years ago

Disgraceful- accusing PL/Celtic on no evidence.

Darren
10 years ago

Put the tiny violin away, what would you have Celtic do exactly, they voted against the newco coming straight back into the SPL, we are currently competing and holding our own against the best clubs in europe, we are on track to win the league again.. If Rangers fans believe that they are still supporting the same club why do you care, its their club, let them get on with it. I cant see them being competitive again with celtic for a long time, they lost every good player they had for nothing, they have a club that costs 33 mill to run on 20 mill income..the Sky EPL bubble will burst and there will be a natural correction in the market, Celtic are well placed to take advantage of this, Hail Hail

Kev
10 years ago

Suppose you couldn’t have been that much of a fan…

What happened to

‘FAITHFUL THROUGH AND THROUGH’

Suppose youve sung that song before

boyceybhoy
10 years ago

I feel the need to say I totally agree with what Desi mond posted,maybe not about alienating my family from Everything Celtic, but I can see where the Author is coming from.
Hail Hail.

keddaw
10 years ago

“Dear Peter”
A touch personal, no?

“…and, Rangers Football Club, in particular.”
If you want to be taken seriously don’t misuse punctuation in the very first paragraph.

“Those figures are for the entire season not per game.”
A bean counter like Lawell, assuming he got this far, would laugh out loud at this failure of maths and logic.

I understand the sentiment, but the idea that the board would be swayed by this subjective piece is naive at best.

deadhead67
10 years ago

The guy is right about the board,they are trying to stop a group of fans sending in a submission to UEFA ,WHEN THEY SHOULD HAVE REPORTED THE FOOTBALL AUTHORITIES AGES AGO

Tourtenay
10 years ago

I understand exactly what is being said and I do agree with the majority of it but I do not feel that the Celtic Board have been guilty of complicty in any way.
I think we all feel more than a little impotent when we see the corruption practiced by Newco and their acolytes, of which there are many in Scottish society but to turn your back on Celtic because you feel Celtic are some how to blame is more than streatching it.
The Celtic Board’s main priority is to CFC first and foremost, yes they have a responsibility to the wider Scottish game but Celtic come first and i feel the Celtic Board have behaved more than responsibly over this debacle.
Think again before turning your back on Celtic because Celtic is more than the present board, more than a group of men & women Celtic will be here for our children and grand children long after we have passed on because Celtic is in our DNA our RNA it is us, do not deprive your children of the glory you have seen and felt, return to the fold comrade, Celtic are us we are celtic. HH

george crawford
10 years ago

AS A CELTIC EXCILE LIVING IN WALES I WAS BROUGHT TO BE A TIM AND NOTHING EALSE.IF CELTIC HAD DONE WHAT RANGERS DID WOULD WE HAVE BEN TREATED THE SAME I DO NOT THINK SO.I MY OPINION THE SHOULD HAVE BOOTEED RANGERS OUT OF THE GAME AND LEFT THEM TO SUNDAY LEAGUE

NALA47
10 years ago

I also feel badly let down by all the nonsense that has gone on but Celtic did not create it. Giving up on Celtic denies your heritage and denies future generations. Continue to support Celtic and all they stand for. Otherwise you are endorsing the “nonsense” and turning your back on who you are.

CarlJungleBhoy
10 years ago

Let me turn this around 360 degrees and ask a question from a totally different angle. If -Ghod forbid- you were a died-in-the-wool,loyal,blue nose, who felt you’ve been taken for a mug by a bunch of spivs & charlatans,but nevertheless still felt a deep allegiance to your “club”,in whatever bastardised form or sham metamorphis it re-appears in, would you do walking away, swearing to “break the family bond” forever?? TBH I’m not sure I would.

No matter how disgraceful the behind the scenes shennanigans & downright fraud,I would have trouble accepting that what went on in the my name of my club by a bunch of millionaires and their apologists, was of my own personal doing.I would hope I’d feel a portion of collective-consciousness guilt about it, but, would also have an equally firm determination that we (as The Who put it) won’t get fooled again.

Now, whilst the whole “Wee Arra Peeple” mentally is anthema to me – I’ve felt the bitter bile first hand, and wiped the hot spittle of sectarianism from my own face – I do believe there ARE a portion of “decent” blue-noses out there (albeit small – 3 or 4 at most <joke) – I'm even related to a few season ticket holders – who feel that, whatever re-incarnation it appears in, they'll continue to support their club no matter what.

Forgot all that legal shit. Whether we like it or not, providing Ibrox remains standing and in the control of a legal entity who think – no matter how hypocritical & unfair it is- that they represent the football club that used to be known as "Rangers", then there's no point pretending they don't exist and we're not going to get rid of them. The best we can hope for is that the lessons of this folly have been learnt and that we – Scottish football fans as a whole – wont get fooled again.

Sure, we need to be vigilant and continue to strive in the hope that justice will prevail and the blame fairly attributed, but, if this whole sordid saga means that decades of behind the scenes funny handshakes and institionalised sectarist bias is destroyed one and for all time, then I'll take that as a triumph, even if it means accepting the existence of a weakened, powerless shadow of The (Former) Forces of Darkness.

Sure, you can argue a case that the Celtic board are to some extent complicit in some parts of this sorry shambles, but it's the SFA/SPFL – and their apologists in the MSM – who should be vilified for this. It would be a strange form of justice indeed if either Celtic or their fans – current or future – should suffer in any way, rather than those who're truly to blame.

Raymobhoy
10 years ago

Do you really think that once Rangers do get back into the Premier League they wont get all the types of “help” from the media and SFA that they have in the the past?

CarlJungleBhoy
10 years ago
Reply to  Raymobhoy

Call me stoopid or naive, but I honestly think that the level of scrutiny on every single decision made by the Scottish football authorities has itensified to such a level – and the likes of Phil Mac,RTC,TSFM (even Jim Spence) etc etc should be applauded for this – it will be much more difficult than ever before for Rangers and their brown-nosed pals in the MSM to get away with it. I’m not saying it wont happen at all, but that they’ll find it much harder to get away with it than in the past.

I realise I must sound like some green specked old fart who blindly follows the official Celtic board line, but I cant help thinking that some people – for perfectly understandable reasons – have confused seeking justice with seeking revenge.

I’m proud of Celtic and their history. I also hate the right-wing fascist hircine hordes and their wee arra peepil attitude with a vengeance. However, for all those who think “our time came – and we missed it”, there are others who feel that our time has come to claim the moral high ground and prove that we’re above all that, by NOT letting them drag them us down to their level of bile & bitter vengeance?

. Isn’t it even closer to the spirit of our forefathers to be able to say we turned our back on prejudice and the pursuit of revenge?

elcormaco@gmail.com
10 years ago

This is a highly emotive subject, and I think there is no doubt that Celtic were as willing as most other SPL chairmen and allow 2nd Rangers into the SPL until the internet bampots showed them how strong feelings were on this.

I read Rangers Tax case when it was there and go onto Scottish football monitor, though its world view is getting ever smaller and less relevant unfortunatley IMO, and it makes me furious to learn of some of the shady deals, handshakes and winks that carried on in Scottish football, and at one club in particular.

That said, I belive police and BDO liquidators are still investigating elements of the rangers business and takoever(s) so I retain some hope that justice will be done. And by justice I mean no more or no less severe than should be carried out on any other club who acted in the way Rangers did. This is not for me a witch hunt but a long and winding road towards the truth, and “our day will come”

In the meantime, I acknowledge celtic would likely have put pounds before principles last summer but having gauged the strength of feeliong among their support wisely changed strategy, and I ll continue supporting Celtic, because they are my team, and not as some counter point to “them”

MarkyBhoy
10 years ago

I wrote a similar letter, a bit angrier and not quite as articulate, to Peter Lawell like Corsica did with his “Breaking the Family Bond”.
Scottish Football has been dysfunctional for a very long time. David Murray and his friends at the Bank made sure it became a basket case. Tax dodging/evasion, ineligible player registrations, multiple rule breaking and the daylight robbery of domestic and European prize monies. So I told Lawell what I expected. A full exposure of the corruption at the heart of Scottish Football and a resignation from it addressed to UEFA. Who was I kidding? Not only did he send me a condescending, stock PLC answer about acting in the best interests of their customers but he agreed to increase Stewart Reagan and Neil Doncaster’s wages whilst re-instating Campbell Ogilvie as President of the entire pantomine. I am one of the few that can say he was a McCann man throughout his tenure. And I can guarantee the wee man would have had a field day with recent events. We have a present Chairman and Board that can neither see beyond the remit of a PLC or life without being one cheek of the arse that is the “Old Firm”.

So the dreaded day comes. When we are drawn against them in the Cup and consequently hand them their mojo back. Their raison d’etre. Back in the eighties when I was a Celtic Supporters Club bus convener we used to argue with the local them that they’d take a victory over the tic anyday of the week before a European Cup win and unsuprisingly they didn’t disagree. I was born in 68 so things might have been different before then, I don’t know. It seems to me that the Old Firm, over the course of my life, mirrored The Irish War. It is remarkable or maybe not depending on your vista that the symbiosis has continued its seamless reflection from the Good Friday Agreement to now.

From Marcus Junius Brutus to Roger Windsor. Is there anything worse in life than a prick that helps the enemy? In my opinion, the years ahead will reveal the current Celtic Board’ duplicity before, during and after the funeral in Govan. If the result is dependent on money then they probably jumped the right way, at least in the short term. For every Tim they lost, due to their cowardice, they’ve managed to cover with a glory hunter. We’ll see how long that lasts.

I was one of they guys that used to argue about the “Old Firm” label/smear/anchor. I grew convinced over years that many Celtic fans were on the same page as me regarding this particular issue. So how is it as we hurtle towards this first Cup-tie with this new club that I feel this impending sense of disappointment. Don’t get me wrong. This past two years have been bliss. I live and work in an area infested with them. In fact a mate of mine describes the place as a cross between the 1970’s and East Belfast. And I’ve had a ball. Ripping them up for arse paper on a daily basis over and over to the point where I’ve ended up with a superiority complex! So au fait have I become in the razing of their former club and the associated comedians that sometimes after I’ve destroyed another one of them I find myself looking in the mirror and finding Samuel Beckett.
All those years they were running it up us was on the back of the Bank’s financial doping and Ibrox accountants chicanery. I can’t believe that most of my Tim mates are dieing for the next “Old Firm” game. Is this what we’ve become? The good guy in some Hollywood B-Movie? The clown at the Circus? The Club that does as it’s told and remembers its job is to play victim?

I’ve telt my mates when they come home from that first game against Sevco and we’ve lost one nothing at Ibrox to a dodgy goal and a number of other iffy decisions I’ll be nowhere to be found. Our forefathers were fond of the saying, “Our Day will come”. Sad to say we missed it when it did.

Admin
10 years ago

Re read the article again tonight, and it seems to me that the author is simply fed up with the lack of action over the cheating that was done over the years. There has been no investigation, there has been no punishment, and it looks like the second club will just slot in where the first left off. If this happens, there is a possibility that the game is under threat again.
What is implied in the article, to my mind, is that Celtic should have taken a more decisive role in shaping the future,as opposed to just sitting back and seeing what happens.
It is depressing that the writer is quitting Celtic, when its probably more important that during this period he makes his voice count, but he feels that -along with some other ommentators inhere, that he wants no more of it. And one could certainly argue that if we all did the same, then they would have to clean up their act.
The crisis isn’t over yet, and something else occured to me while I was reading it.
What if the whole media circus around it being the same club is actually to protect David Murray himself from the wrath of the support for what he did to the club, and not just to keep their institution going ? Which in turn means that they are all in it together for their own ends.

MarkyBhoy
10 years ago
Reply to  Ralph Malph

Indeed. Self preservation.
As for what’s to be done, we already have the answer. Before the death of them the contingency plan contained them still being part of the top league. With move on nothing to see here as the mantra. When every other Premier league teams support started chanting SAY NO TO THE NEWCO and fans the length and breadth of the country threatening to boycott season books that put that notion to a grinding halt. Then, as supporters, we lost momentum and the suits found their feet and we are where we are.

Admin
10 years ago

Great debate though, and much enjoyed.

10 years ago

to the gentleman who submitted “BREAKING THE FAMILY BOND” I salute you “my dear friend in celtic fc” you are most certainly correct on all counts that you have expressed and submitted to this site, my scarf was sent back earlier in the new year and i now never wear anything that reflects celtic fc, I to am disgusted at the very thought of ”OUR BOARD JUMPING INTO BED with the S F A , and the thought of P L BACKING OGILVY’S RE-ELECTION IS ABSOLUTELY REPULSIVE, it is my hope that celtic fc and the board come under intense scrutiny and that the shareholders ask the difficult questions that should be asked, no need for me to lay them out on this site you have already did that with aplomb AND I salute your efforts, THIS SHAREHOLDER WHO PUT HIS MONEY WHERE HIS MOUTH WAS & STILL IS, SAYS WE MUST KNOW THE TRUTH WITH RESPECT TO HOW RANGERS WERE GIVEN ACCESS TO SCOTTISH FOOTBALL WHEN OTHER CLUBS WERE DENIED THAT RIGHT , WE NEED UEFA AND FIFA TO INVESTIGATE THIS MATTER NOW, CELTIC FC SHAREHOLDERS MUST DEMAND THE TRUTH, AFTER ALL IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO

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