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Celtic Diary Wednesday October 11: An Oath Of Hypocrisy

There’s a couple of things that have been in the news since I last sat down at the keys, and there seems to be a link, not an obvious one at first, between the two.

 

Maybe a tenuous link at best, but one that is perhaps an indication of the society we are living in.

 

 

First, the Scottish courts have deemed that the use of the word “hun” to describe a supporter of Rangers, is now deemed to be sectarian and is consequently illegal.

 

 

From the Sun...

 

SENIOR sheriffs have ruled using the word “hun” to describe Rangers supporters is a form of sectarian abuse.

A man who directed the slur at two police officers argued it was a slang term in the west of Scotland for followers of the Ibrox club that had no religious connotations. 

 

David Di Pinto was convicted of a breach of the peace aggravated by religious prejudice at the Scottish League Cup Final between Celtic and Hibs at Hampden Park in December 2021.

His trial at Glasgow Sheriff Court heard he shouted and swore, flailed his arms and called two officers “hun c***s”.

He was fined £500 and made the subject of a football banning order for 12 months.

However, Di Pinto, 39, of Renfrew, challenged the religious aggravation element of his conviction at the Sheriff Appeal Court in Edinburgh

 

His legal team argued the use of the word “hun” did not contain a religious aspect nor disclose malice and ill-will towards a religious group.

They said a “hun” was a member of a warlike nomadic people from Central Asia who invaded and ravaged Europe in the fourth and fifth centuries.

Sheriff Principal Aisha Anwar, sitting with Sheriff Principal Derek Pyle and Sheriff Brian Mohan, rejected Di Pinto’s appeal and ruled that the word is an offensive sectarian term directed at members of the Protestant faith who are thought to be Rangers supporters.

Sheriff Principal Anwar said: “The historic sectarian tensions within Glasgow and particularly between supporters of Rangers FC and Celtic FC are well understood in Scotland. 

 

For a learned officer to use the convenient term “sectarian ” should set off warning bells.

 

“It is also well understood that supporters of Rangers FC are perceived to be predominantly of the Protestant faith and that supporters of Celtic FC are perceived to be predominantly of the Catholic faith. 

 

I would also question who “understood ” this, as it shows a remarkable lack of knowledge, certainly in this century, about the make up of both clubs. this view is more commonly held by people who know little about either, but what they have read from usually quite a long way away.

 

“The fact that the word ‘hun’ is used as a derogatory term to describe supporters of Rangers FC, who are perceived to be predominantly of the Protestant faith, is, in our view, a matter of judicial knowledge. 

 

In our view. Which is somewhat narrow, and I’m not quite sure what they mean by ” judicial knowledge “, as they appear to confusing it with “in our view ”

“There are many theories and much speculation as to the origins of the term ‘hun’.

“It is variously claimed as a reference to nomadic people who invaded the Roman Empire in the fourth and fifth centuries, as a derogatory name for German soldiers or as a colloquial reference to a savage. 

 

Their judicial knowledge on the meaning of the word “origins ” seems equally limited. The Roman Empirical period was quite a few years before the two world wars, and therefore probably the origin. Also, with the nomadic leader being known as Attila the Hun, you’d think he owned the copyright.

 

 

“We do not accept that in a footballing context those using the term are doing so by any genuine reference to its historic usage. 

 

No ?

 

 

In April 1961, during a visit to Woverhampton , Rangers fans were described as “coming across the border like a band of marauding  huns. “

 

A clear indication that the panel either chose to ignore the evidence, or refused to see why the term had been adopted. If they wanted to see further evidence of this “hun ” behaviour, there are several European cities that would offer their own opinions, and perhaps make the same comparison themselves, based entirely on their own experiences.

 

“Whatever the historical origins of the word, in its modern usage well informed persons in the west of Scotland recognise that when used in a footballing context, the word has now been adopted as an abusive sectarian term used to cause offence to those of the Protestant faith, not simply as a reference to a supporter of Rangers FC. 

 

 

In this, they may have a point. Usually when a legal ruling is made we tend to go with the headline, or the sensationalist aspect of the story, and not the detail.

 

Had the defendant simply called the officers cunts, then this matter would not have arisen.

There was nothing to suggest they were Rangers supporters, so the defence surrounding whether or not it was a slur on a Rangers fan is irrelevant.

 

He called someone a hun…and in that context it is reasonable to suggest that the insult had little to do with which team the officer supported, he was using it as a term to describe what he thought was the background of the person, and since it’s unlikely the officer spent his weekends invading Rome, he’s not going to win.

 

 

“It is, in that respect, no different to the use of the term ‘fenian’ as a form of sectarian abuse to describe Celtic supporters who are perceived to be predominantly of the Roman Catholic faith. 

 

 

At this point, police offocers all over Scotland winced, possibly because there is one location where the use of the term fenian is routinely chanted and sang and can only be described as a sectarian slur.

 

Ibrox, on match day.

 

Presumably this new ruling means around 50,000 arrests at their next home game.

 

After all, the rule of law must be upheld.

 

I would suggest that a quick email to the head of Police Scotland if you happen to hear it during a televised game would help to draw attention to the offences, so that they can be quickly and effectively dealt with.

 

Otherwise one could be led to think that our legal system has taken an oath of hypocrisy….

 

 

You know what I really think ?

 

The police officer concerned was probably a Celtic fan, and that’s why he got pissed off with being called a hun.

 

 

Which would annoy you more…being called a fenian bastard, or a hun cunt ?

 

 

Clue: I’ve got a t shirt that has Fenian Bastard written on it.

 

 

The whole issue has to be taken in context.

 

The use of both terms can be endearing, as when we call each other fenian bastards, but it boils down to one thing.

 

 

It’s a word, and a word is only offensive if you want to be offended.

 

 

 

Whilst we are talking about hypocrisy, we move onto the second major…and far more serious….news story of the week.

 

 

A recent incursion into Israel by Hamas has resulted in an uncertain number of deaths amng the Israeli population.

 

 

Whether or not it’s one or one thousand, it’s still murder, and therefore cannot be condoned under any circumstances.

 

 

The reaction of Israel, as Hamas must have surely been aware, is to embark on the complete destruction of Palestine and all those who live there.

 

 

In this, they appear to have the support of most western governments, Ireland and Scotland being honourable exceptions.

 

 

Especially Ireland…

 

 

 

 

Satire, often a weapon against governments, should bite. And this from Tadgh Hickey rips your arm off while explaining the hypocrisy around the situation..

 

 

 

 

 

The Palestinian cause is one which most Celtic fans are in support of, there’s no disagreeing with that.

 

 

When UEFA fined the club after a section of the support waved the Palestinian flag at a match against an Israeli side, the support raised enough to pay the fine and donate a substantial amount to Aid charities.

 

 

Then waved some more Palestinain flags, an event warmly applauded around the world.

 

 

The Green Brigade held up a banner which supported the Palestinians at the last home game…which prompted a statement from the board.

 

 

“Banners displayed in a section of Celtic Park prior to Saturday’s game do not represent the views of Celtic Football Club and we disassociate ourselves from them. We condemn the display of such messages at Celtic Park.

“Celtic is a football club and not a political organisation. One of our core values from inception is to be open to all regardless of race, colour, politics or creed. That is why the Club has always made clear that political messages and banners are not welcome at Celtic Park, or any match involving Celtic. At a time of loss and suffering for many, it is entirely inappropriate for any group of individuals to use Celtic Park as a vehicle for such messages.

“We call on all supporters, regardless of their personal views, to unite in backing our players and the Club while respecting the rights and beliefs of others; particularly those whose lives are affected by violence and hatred.” 

 

 

So no support for Palestine, then ?

 

 

Hang on…

 

 

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 Not political ?
Or not wanting to upset the sponsors ?
 There was a time when Celtic chairman stood up for what they thought was right….

On a bigger scale, Bob Kelly must be applauded for his stance in the European Cup 1968/69 where due to the Soviet invasion in Czechoslovakia he made a stand against playing against Eastern European sides after Celtic had been paired with the Hungarian club Ferencvaros at the height of the Cold War. Bob Kelly led the protests that led to others following his brave stance and threatening a boycott.

Chairman Bob Kelly insisted Celtic could not possibly travel to Eastern Europe in such sensitive political times. As a result the European Cup had to be re-drawn keeping clubs from Eastern and Western Europe apart. Celtic got St-Etienne instead. In return, FC Levski (Sofia), Ferencvarosi, Dinamo Kiev and Ruch Chorzow withdrew; clubs from Czechoslovakia, Romania and Yugoslavia remained in the competition.

Notably, it is said Bob Kelly’s own hopes of getting a knighthood were boosted by the fact he threatened to withdraw Celtic from the European Cup because they were drawn against Ferencvaros of Hungary. He was deserving of the title for this stance and it’s something we should respect in this instance.

As Jock Stein was to state following Robert Kelly’s passing:

“No man has done more for the club [Celtic] in every way than Sir Robert Kelly”.    

 

 

 

There’s a thought.

 

 

Why don;t we take the lead and demand Israeli clubs are banned from European competition ?

 

 

Like Russian ones are ?

 

 

Oh…there’s that oath of hypocrisy again.

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Dziekanowski's nightclub child
6 months ago

Hail, hail!

Tonydtic
6 months ago

Understandably some people find the words hun and fenian offensive, personally I’ve found the word Rangers to be offensive since 2012 and think that it should also be brought to the attention of the courts unless it is immediately followed by the suffix 2012.

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  Tonydtic

Those Anwars sure do get around.

Gringo
6 months ago

Israel isn’t even in Europe so they shouldn’t be there at all unless Iran, Iraq & Syria can all join in too.

It’s so beyond hypocrisy that there’s not even a word to describe it.

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  Gringo

No, wait, there is a word to describe it …

Zionism aka Globalism.

John E Mitchell
6 months ago

…and, while we’re about it, why don’t we stop pretending that Israeli clubs are fucking European as well? UEFA bastards!

desdamoaner
6 months ago

yer man’s legal team let him down badly. all he needed were pictures of, for example, Lorenzo Amoruso and Jock Stein. One a Catholic, one a Protestant, one captioned ‘hun’ and one not.

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  desdamoaner

Haha, spot on.

I hope he didn’t actually pay that useless lawyer of his when this supreme example of the stupidity of the judge’s case can be so simply illustrated like this.

The Cha
6 months ago

Notably, it is said Bob Kelly’s own hopes of getting a knighthood were boosted”

In the 60s Kelly took Celtic to the USA, a country that was killing millions in SE Asia and whose affect of mass bombings are still causing birth defects, cancers, early deaths etc to this day, nearly 60 years later.

Pure evil.

Fecking hypocrite and his chances weren’t boosted it was the sole reason he was given a bauble by Lizzie.

Damian Smyth
6 months ago
Reply to  The Cha

I thought it was Jock Stein that took Celtic to USA .
i my ignorance, I thought Jock Stein took complete control & responsibilities of the football activities of the club

The Cha
6 months ago
Reply to  Damian Smyth

On the pitch but the tour would only happen with Kelly’s approval.

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  Damian Smyth

Jock didn’t pay for it out of his own pocket.

Kelly sanctioned the club funding it.

As though this even needs pointing out.

Morto
6 months ago

Any chance we can get back to talking football again?
I’m sure there are plenty of other sites where you can vent about whatever side you prefer in the middle east.

Funkyy
6 months ago
Reply to  Morto

I feel the same, I come here to talk things Celtic. There are plenty of sites to go to and argue about politics until you are blue (God forbid) in the face.
After the international break we’ve got two massive games against Atletico Madrid to have a chance of getting at least 3rd place in our section. We need to win at least 4 points from the 3 matches against Atletico and Lazio to have any hope. We can beat Feyenoord in Glasgow for 7 points and third place and continue with European football at least.

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  Funkyy

And of the Green Brigade fly the Palestinian flag at the Atletico game they are now committing an illegal act and should, according to Stella Braverman’s latest diktat, all be imprisoned.

For flying a flag.

Unless it’s Ukrainian.

Or has a guy in a Celtic shirt being kicked to death by The Union Bears.

Then you’re good to go.

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The Cha
6 months ago
Reply to  Morto

You can talk about football all you like and others can talk about other subjects if they like.

Why’s that so difficult to understand?

If you want to censor comments not to your liking, how about setting up your site.

“Celtic, just a football club, nothing more, same as all the rest”.

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  The Cha

Boss idea, Cha.

In fact, he could set up a site, call it ‘The Celtic Blog’ (sic) then spend all day writing about Sevco, his favourite movies and ancient fuckin Rome, while barring and censoring anyone who disagrees with him.

No, wait, he might be a tad too late with that yin, to be fair …

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  The Cha

Boss idea, Cha.

In fact, he could set up a site, call it ‘The Celtic Blog’ (sic) then spend all day writing about Sevco, his favourite movies and ancient fvckin Rome, while barring and censoring anyone who disagrees with him.

No, wait, he might be a tad too late with that yin, to be fair …

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  Gringo

Alternatively, he could set up a blog and call it ‘The Celtic Blog’ then spend all day kidding everyone how much he thinks he knows about Western politics, the complexities of the Middle East, his favourite TV shows, then disappear up his ain fat hole and THEN bar anyone and everyone who thinks differently from him.

Though again, I think his tardiness might have let him down here again somewhat.

I’nt that right, Janice?

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  Gringo

Hello JimBob!

Nice to see you after all these years 🙂

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  Morto

No one here is taking sides, as there are no sides to take during an atrocity and that’s self evident by the comments.

And Celtic ARE directly involved via Dermot Desmond’s massive investment in the ‘criminal alert systems technology’ via his DAON company which has been placed across Palestine to determine whether ‘someone is about to commit a crime.’

So this is a Celtic issue directly affecting all of us as our de facto owner is a leading player in the imprisonment, torture and death of countless Palestinians.

Sorry as I am to have to write such an appallingly dehumanising fact about our club and those running it.

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John A
6 months ago

No time for the tories on our board and even less time for the terrorists invaders of israel

The Cha
6 months ago
Reply to  John A

A supporter of the genocidal Apartheid state would be more at home at Ibrox.

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  The Cha

Said, Cha.

I very much doubt we’ll find one on here though you never do know as some folk really DO believ all they read in the papers or hear quacking from the media in its current bloodlust.

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  John A

Hamsa was created, funded and is still run by Israel in the same way the Taliban was created by the Yanks.

Israel (and Palestine) is the most heavily surveilled state on Earth, where every single citizen, male & female, has served time as conscripts in the Israeli Army.

So when you consider the logistics of how long it took ‘Hamas’ to cart all that weaponry to the front line, set it all up, load the rockets, get the guys into the hang gliders, then start firing rockets at Israel’s supposedly impenetrable ‘Iron Dome’ defence system, well, you soon begin to realise that not one bit of it makes a lick of sense, unless it suited someone to turn a blind eye to all this so they could then use it as an excuse for a full on invasion/genocide.

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  Gringo

And before you start with the nonsense please read this:


‘“Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” Avner Cohen, a former Israeli religious affairs official who worked in Gaza for more than two decades, told the Wall Street Journal in 2009.’

https ://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/ hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/

And this:

‘This isn’t a conspiracy theory. 

Listen to former Israeli officials such as Brig. Gen. Yitzhak Segev, who was the Israeli military governor in Gaza in the early 1980s. Segev later told a New York Times reporter that he had helped finance the Palestinian Islamist movement as a “counterweight” to the secularists and leftists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and the Fatah party, led by Yasser Arafat (who himself referred to Hamas as “a creature of Israel.”’

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  Gringo

‘“Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” Avner Cohen, a former Israeli religious affairs official who worked in Gaza for more than two decades, told the Wall Street Journal in 2009.’
https ://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/ hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/

BroxburnBhoy
6 months ago

It’s a complex world it seems both in the world of slurs and their legal interpretation and in the very complex situation in the Middle East. Should Israelis be able to live in peace – yes should Palestinians be able to live in peace – yes. Will Hamas help this end point – no

The Cha
6 months ago
Reply to  BroxburnBhoy

Israel was created through the ethnic cleansing of Palestinian people from Palestine.

Why do you support that?

Hamas is the legitimate choice of the Palestinian people and if you added all their ‘crimes” together you would not see it when mapped against Israel’s.

Why do you absolve the ethnic cleansing, war crimes of the Apartheid state and condemn the resistance to it?

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  The Cha

‘“Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” Avner Cohen, a former Israeli religious affairs official who worked in Gaza for more than two decades, told the Wall Street Journal in 2009.’

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  The Cha

Hamas is as representative of the Palestinian people as Zionism is of the Jewish people, all of whom just want to live in peace.

However, Israel’s entirely illegal theft of Palestinian lands was furnished by that clown Balfour in The Balfour Declaration under the orders of ‘Lord’ (sic) Walter Rothschild, Zionist banker and chief instigator of this entirely illegal war on Palestine and its people so that these clandestine shadow government Zionists could wage war and gain control of the entire Middle East.

With both the PLO and Hamas as their controlled opposition puppet stooges doing their bidding for them in the lead up to this, the ultimate end game, where they can justify the coming slaughter and destruction of Palestine by claiming that 14 guys on hang gliders kidnapped their 40 most beautiful women and drove them back over the border in pickup trucks which, presumably, they also silently hang glided in, and out, to sneakily evade the border guards of the IDF.

You can’t have a fart on the street without the IDF knowing about it so this entire scenario is so beyond ridiculous that it’s insulting to our collective intelligence that they even tried to get away with it.

Yet still some swallow it whole.

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BroxburnBhoy
6 months ago
Reply to  The Cha

That’s a very shrill response from you. I expected more measure. I’ll refrain from historical argument here and simply disagree with you about Hamas. A group willing to slaughter over 1000 non combatants are despicable no matter what their cause may be.

The Cha
6 months ago
Reply to  BroxburnBhoy

Nothing shrill, just a straight-forward response to the tiresome trope of blaming the oppressed not the oppressor.

BroxburnBhoy
6 months ago
Reply to  The Cha

That would be a very simple way to look at it. I’m saying it’s a lot more complex than black and white. Trope or opinion. I can definitely say the action Hamas has just taken against men women and children so graphically posted online by Hamas will set back a two state solution by even more years. This action helped no one. I’m done now back to Celtic from now on

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  BroxburnBhoy

Hamas is a self admitted Israeli creation specifically designed for this purpose of these past few days to justify the coming Israeli onslaught/destruction of all Palestine which is already in progress.

We don’t need to argue about this amongst ourselves when even the Israeli people themselves openly recognise what has truly occurred and why.

Scott OSprey
6 months ago

With regards to the whole “Hun” thing, I am a Celtic supporter thanks to my paternal granddfather (who I never got the plelasure to meet) who was born in Glasgow around 1920 and came from a protestant family, after being demobbed from WWII he relocated to Edinburgh where he met my grandmother (in Niddrie where many a Glaswegian went after the war) and married, they had 3 sons and a daughter, two of his sons supported a team from either side of Edinburgh, but my father the youngest of the sibblings chose the team that his protestant father supported, that team was Celtic, thank fuck my dad went with his dad and therefore gave his three sons something great to pass onto their own children!

The Cha
6 months ago

This article from an Israel newspaper shows more understanding and compassion for Palestine than you’ll get from the likes of the Daily (Hate) Mail, other RW sources and, truth be told, probably BBC, ITV, C4 etc either.

Haaretz commentator Gideon Levy:

Israel Can’t Imprison Two Million Gazans Without Paying a Cruel Price 

archive .ph/E4fDf

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  The Cha

That link is asking for an email address to continue reading, Cha, and I don’t do that to read anything.

Any chance you can copy & paste it here, thanks?

The Cha
6 months ago
Reply to  Gringo

The archive.ph link shouldn’t be asking for for an email address.

The original Haaretz one might but I used the other one.

The Cha
6 months ago
Reply to  The Cha

archive.ph/E4fDf

The Cha
6 months ago
Reply to  Gringo

C+P but formatting a mess and not sure everything included.

Haaretz | Opinion
Opinion | Israel Can’t Imprison Two Million Gazans Without Paying a Cruel Price

Gideon Levy

Oct 9, 2023 5:31 pm IDT
Behind all this lies Israeli arrogance; the idea that we can do whatever we like, that we’ll never pay the price and be punished for it. We’ll carry on undisturbed.
We’ll arrest, kill, harass, dispossess and protect the settlers busy with their pogroms. We’ll visit Joseph’s Tomb, Othniel’s Tomb and Joshua’s Altar in the Palestinian territories, and of course the Temple Mount – over 5,000 Jews on Sukkot alone.
We’ll fire at innocent people, take out people’s eyes and smash their faces, expel, confiscate, rob, grab people from their beds, carry out ethnic cleansing and of course continue with the unbelievable siege of the Gaza Strip, and everything will be all right.
We’ll build a terrifying obstacle around Gaza – the underground wall alone cost 3 billion shekels ($765 million) – and we’ll be safe. We’ll rely on the geniuses of the army’s 8200 cyber-intelligence unit and on the Shin Bet security service agents who know everything. They’ll warn us in time.
Israel’s leaders have been eternally judged. What are they thinking now?
Israel must first bring home its own
With each round of fighting in Gaza, more ‘collateral damage,’ and more futility
We’ll transfer half an army from the Gaza border to the Hawara border in the West Bank, only to protect far-right lawmaker Zvi Sukkot and the settlers. And everything will be all right, both in Hawara and at the Erez crossing into Gaza.
It turns out that even the world’s most sophisticated and expensive obstacle can be breached with a smoky old bulldozer when the motivation is great. This arrogant barrier can be crossed by bicycle and moped despite the billions poured into it and all the famous experts and fat-cat contractors.
The Gaza Palestinians are willing to pay any price for a moment of freedom. Will Israel learn its lesson? No.
We thought we’d continue to go down to Gaza, scatter a few crumbs in the form of tens of thousands of Israeli work permits – always contingent on good behavior – and still keep them in prison. We’ll make peace with Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates and the Palestinians will be forgotten until they’re erased, as quite a few Israelis would like.
We’ll keep holding thousands of Palestinian prisoners, sometimes without trial, most of them political prisoners. And we won’t agree to discuss their release even after they’ve been in prison for decades.
We’ll tell them that only by force will their prisoners see freedom. We thought we would arrogantly keep rejecting any attempt at a diplomatic solution, only because we don’t want to deal with all that, and everything would continue that way forever.
Once again it was proved that this isn’t how it is. A few hundred armed Palestinians breached the barrier and invaded Israel in a way no Israeli imagined was possible. A few hundred people proved that it’s impossible to imprison 2 million people forever without paying a cruel price.
Just as the smoky old Palestinian bulldozer tore through the world’s smartest barrier Saturday, it tore away at Israel’s arrogance and complacency. And that’s also how it tore away at the idea that it’s enough to occasionally attack Gaza with suicide drones – and sell them to half the world – to maintain security.
On Saturday, Israel saw pictures it has never seen before. Palestinian vehicles patrolling its cities, bike riders entering through the Gaza gates. These pictures tear away at that arrogance. The Gaza Palestinians have decided they’re willing to pay any price for a moment of freedom. Is there any hope in that? No. Will Israel learn its lesson? No.
On Saturday they were already talking about wiping out entire neighborhoods in Gaza, about occupying the Strip and punishing Gaza “as it has never been punished before.” But Israel hasn’t stopped punishing Gaza since 1948, not for a moment.
After 75 years of abuse, the worse possible scenario awaits it once again. The threats of “flattening Gaza” prove only one thing: We haven’t learned a thing. The arrogance is here to stay, even though Israel is paying a high price once again.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu bears very great responsibility for what happened, and he must pay the price, but it didn’t start with him and it won’t end after he goes. We now have to cry bitterly for the Israeli victims, but we should also cry for Gaza.
Gaza, most of whose residents are refugees created by Israel. Gaza, which has never known a single day of freedom.

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  The Cha

Cheers.

But the writer is still coming at it as though Israel didn’t know anything about it, which is just a joke.

As I’ve been saying all along and had confirmed via mate’s mates on the ground that this is EXACTLY the moment why Israel created Hamas, precisely for these moments, to justify a full scale massacre across Palestine and have it further justified in the eyes of the world via the Zionist media.

Israel has done this deliberately to tug at the world’s heartstrings when everyone in Palestine and Israel itself knows they’re trying to use it as an excuse for a final solution in dealing with ‘the Palestinian Problem’.

And it might well be this overall general awareness that sees even this desperate pitch fail.

Though that depends on how gullible the public are and how much they fall for this insane media-led bloodlust or not.

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  The Cha

My reply has gone to the bin but despite the emotive language he’s still approaching it as a ‘Hamas attack’ when even the Israelis on the ground know it’s just a Zionist excuse to trample Palestine out of existence.

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MabozzaRitchie
6 months ago
Reply to  The Cha

The act of kidnapping and imprisoning two-year-old children with the intent to showcase it on social media is unequivocally unacceptable. I will not endorse or support such actions, and I firmly believe that those who attempt to justify it are f.inTheHead. Those responsible for abducting both children and even elderly individuals of 93 years old should face the full consequences of their actions. If someone chooses to advocate for such behavior, that’s their choice, but I prefer to maintain a clear conscience and sleep peacefully at night. So you wont find me flying palesinian garbage.
By the way, it’s worth noting that a significant portion of the funds sent to support these violent individuals in the past ended up in the bank accounts of Yasser Arafat and his family, rather than aiding the Palestinian cause. It seems that he cared less about the well-being of Palestinians than some other entities, like Mossad.

Funkyy
6 months ago
Reply to  MabozzaRitchie

Well said.

MabozzaRitchie
6 months ago
Reply to  The Cha
MabozzaRitchie
6 months ago
Reply to  The Cha

www . haaretz . com / israel-news / 2022-11-30/ ty-article-magazine/ .highlight/ gideon-levy-if-israeli-soldiers-are-so-deplorable-then-why-are-you-hanging-with-bibi/ 00000184-c7ef-d136-affd-c7ffc3db0000

heres the article you missed explaing how levy is a hypocrite

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  MabozzaRitchie

Just because it’s in the news doesn’t mean it’s true.

In fact, it most often means it’s NOT true.

For a smart enough guy you should already know this without me having to remind you.

Think ‘Sevco being ‘Rangers’’ for your first clue.

Last edited 6 months ago by Gringo
MabozzaRitchie
6 months ago
Reply to  Gringo

Express that to the families who are mourning. This doctrine of supporting those who rally behind the Palestinian flag seems to echo the extremist beliefs associated with political correctness. I have my own opinions, and I do not want to associate with those murderers. Even if every Celtic supporter on Earth were to isolate me for my views, I stand by them. The era of the politically correct crowd, coercing people into conformity is waning. Kudos to Celtic for removing them, and may this practice persist. I attend Celtic Park to enjoy the game of football and celtic throwing out these headbangers just increases my enjoyment of celtic


Cartvale88
6 months ago

When you have a system that is so heated about certain parts of the population being discriminated through race, gender issues, whatever, but sectarianism is seen as banter from one side, hatred from the other, then you know there is a problem.
The terminology was invented by a local paper in Nottingham after Rangers fans left their calling card in the sixties, Huns rampage, but our esteemed judiciary are unaware of its sourcing, says it all.

portpower
6 months ago
Reply to  Cartvale88

Ibrox is where the brain is programmed till maintenance is achieved. United is scripted for comfort to keep those of those disowned and distanced, though.

portpower
6 months ago
Reply to  portpower

Aka, shite-in-hoosin.

portpower
6 months ago
Reply to  portpower

Carson.

portpower
6 months ago
Reply to  Cartvale88

Hun subjective case is Celtic FC.

Celtic contrasted mean variance FC.

portpower
6 months ago
Reply to  portpower

Why?

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  portpower

Too portly.

portpower
6 months ago
Reply to  Cartvale88

Run back sevco FC.

portpower
6 months ago

My fortnight is sorted. I`m Porky Pigging with the Grandson for Pokemons.

Remember, once the innocent is slaughtered, the weapon makers live an easy and pleasant life.

portpower
6 months ago
Reply to  portpower

Effin flies though.

portpower
6 months ago

Bisgrove and Bennetts Mammy`s are hiding their purses.

portpower
6 months ago

If it spills over, have you a gun? What a cunt of a word gun.

Access your computer printer.

Politicians are to be armed.

portpower
6 months ago

Beat,yes beat.

portpower
6 months ago
Reply to  portpower

Run fast.

portpower
6 months ago

Up the…

portpower
6 months ago

Now we have acclaimed the left, the right is the right. A gem carved hits the cross bar.

Bloody right footers.

portpower
6 months ago
Reply to  portpower

Around since lack.

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  portpower

A roundabout of a jack attack.

portpower
6 months ago

Is there a reason for winning, cvnts?

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  portpower

Or a design for living?

portpower
6 months ago

Feels like

portpower
6 months ago

Cut the top half of the World off. Wee wanks.

portpower
6 months ago

Numbers that show…

The Aussie coach is from cultural heritage of Hellenic where it continues.

ADIB.

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  portpower

S’all Greek to me, cobber.

portpower
6 months ago

y yah

portpower
6 months ago

What is my name?
Brendon is to be, I saw Her today at.

portpower
6 months ago

So there we go.

portpower
6 months ago

god said cut the top of the World off. What is wrong?

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  portpower

Too round.

portpower
6 months ago

Ibrox. If not. End the. Dead set and sat Listen.

greenmaestro
6 months ago

There was nothing to suggest they were Rangers supporters, so the defence surrounding whether or not it was a slur on a Rangers fan is irrelevant.” It is the learned view that all cops are hu, er. teh rangers supporters

portpower
6 months ago

sevco FC there training while.

portpower
6 months ago
Reply to  portpower

Way down inside honey. Coloured rose Carson. Shake.

The Cha
6 months ago

Update given on Kyogo’s shoulder injury
videocelts .com/2023/10/blogs/latest-news/update-given-on-kyogos-shoulder-injury

I hope its not going to be a deteriorating, degenerative injury that we hardly helped with Tierney.

Still and all, Peter the Great is on the case of players being “maxxed” out, so that’s all good. 😉

The Cha
6 months ago
Reply to  The Cha
portpower
6 months ago

B/day,steamin.sorry.

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  portpower

Happy Burpday, Porter belated.

Tam Mcondie
6 months ago

What about (protestant) fans of other teams who also call them Huns? What would have been the situation if the accused himself had been a protestant ,or did the courts assume he was a catholic and were just lucky to get it right? Surely they wouldn`t have been allowed to ask him his religion.

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  Tam Mcondie

It was a show trial in the Huns’ favour.

That’s what the ludges are there for.

portpower
6 months ago

Yet we to believe.
Buffering since the start of the router and it still buffers from the prissier one.

Over odd years, name the weapon by.

portpower
6 months ago

So sevco is obsolete? Let us take a good look at this that that is not that.

Slippy G is a hun.

portpower
6 months ago
Reply to  portpower

Coward WASP court room. Your fucked- up brain of a distance is to all, cvnts.

There is a need to a clear an explanation though, please explain.

TicToc
6 months ago

After reading about that “hun” definition according to that particular court and the guy being doubly punished for allegedly using “sectarian” language I’ve contacted the OED after checking their site.
There are several definitions listed but my submission only refers to the “hun” definition from 1985- (onwards). The contact details are included but may well be ‘hooked’…..we’ll see! (see below)

To OED re “Hun” https://pages.oup.com/ol/cus/1646173949115570121/submit-words-and-evidence-to-the-oed
Source: https://www.oed.com/search/advanced/Meanings?textTermText0=Hun&textTermOpt0=WordPhrase
 
Description from OED: 1985– Hun, n. & adj.
Scottish (Glasgow) and Irish English (northern) colloquial (derogatory and usually considered offensive). Also with lower-case initial. A Protestant…
 
My submission to OED:
The description (above) defining one meaning of Hun (hun) is materially incorrect. I am from Glasgow and know precisely how “hun” was used. It’s got nothing to do with being Protestant and it’s been in use long before 1985 going back to the 60s at least and is used to refer to supporters of the then Rangers FC (now Liquidated) regardless of any perceived religious affiliation. The term has been used in English newspapers to describe the behaviour (hunnish) of Rangers FC fans who had wreaked havoc in cities in England and with no slur intended against the Protestant faith.
 
Pleased respond to me, (redacted)
My name and email address given for a reply.

portpower
6 months ago

SFA/SPFL, I can contrail my toe nails.

`cause we wanted to

portpower
6 months ago

jOE, MY BABY WROTE me a letter. This is to be.

TicToc
6 months ago

Ralph, I just tried to submit a comment regarding the guy being charged with aggravated “sectarian” rubbish for using the word “hun”. I checked on the OED site and then wrote to them.
The content of the email with some other information should be self-explanatory.
As this is potentially HUGE I think we should stand up against being criminalised for calling huns (fans of Rangers FC until 2012 and now fans of Sevco pretending to be Rangers FC) huns.
PLEASE REMOVE FROM WHEREVER HOOKED THINGS GO AND LET OTHER SUPPORTERS OF CELTIC FC TAKE NOTE AND MAYBE FOLLOW SUIT.

portpower
6 months ago
Reply to  TicToc

Barry shall become sectarian in thy wooden slumberland chambers.

Can I ask: Who has got a Judge as a neighbours? Are they the drive from what what they think is,is?

Combination commodity been used more than a thousand years.

portpower
6 months ago

Just missed the crossroad. 7-11 years in-between. Grandkids. effin bring it on!

portpower
6 months ago

Is there no bastard on the board that owns a fist?

portpower
6 months ago
Reply to  portpower

You’re in my Heart PLC. Though no acceptance seated. Must do better.

MabozzaRitchie
6 months ago
Reply to  portpower

why do you fancy a fisting?

portpower
6 months ago

When was Sevco Scotland FC affiliated with Protestantism?

I`ll effin coach youse. If Barry 8 can injure next to a 6 foot tall man, I can.

Sometimes there is a nous.(I didnae say that 3 months in)

portpower
6 months ago

Order updated, Scotland look OK.
That man may come to youse sevco.

portpower
6 months ago

A human is an age?

portpower
6 months ago

Thick is seen.

portpower
6 months ago

Thy wreck of Sevco FC. Kid you not (Live in Govan)

Leggins FC.

portpower
6 months ago
Reply to  portpower

Rangers, a ghost from a Clyde river.
Because the end you walked. Stories end.

portpower
6 months ago

Get whipped into shape you sevconian c**nts.

Do you remember the bills you have to be Paid of those in Tartan?

Cosmic jazz, children.

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  portpower

No cosmic children, Jas?

portpower
6 months ago

Thou it is the stance of the staunch. Have I not seen you from somewhere before?
They are gettin General Rab.E. Lee.

sevco i’d rather go blind FC.

Same auld place SS Ibrox. Forsaken.

portpower
6 months ago

You are, that there is no doubt, a hun bassa arbitrator. I only said Hello.

Gate crashed?

portpower
6 months ago

I heard Joe say, “What a place to have a kid.”

Gringo
6 months ago
Reply to  portpower

Many Joes agree.

portpower
6 months ago

Mute is till advertising for the Religious.

Lord, have 33% off.

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