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Celtic Diary Friday January 17: The Scottish Cup…Worth It Or Not?

 

As far as I’m concerned , no, but you are perfectly entitled to your opinion, and you may add it if you like below. Frankly, though, it’ll be deleted if you say anything nice about the SFA.

Later today, Yokerbhoy asks the same question in his match preview-online at 1800 hourse, or if your clock only goes up to twelve, just after tea.

But for the moment we can leave the football itself to one side, because deep within the walls of Hampden there have been a couple of changes.

The first sees Crawford Allan take up the position as head of Scotlands referees. There’s no comma after the word Crawford, so he’s yet another of those trustworthy types who have two surnames, and would have had a career in the legal profession had they been of any kind of notable inteligence.

However, he’s a former referee now elevated to a position of influence, and it’s pleasing to note that he has a refreshing outlook on how the rules should be applied.

As The Sun says..

Cunningly described by the hack as a game over gesture, the menacing throat slitting movement made by the Colombian forward is further played down, and therefore with the referee having spotted it and dealt with it, there is no need for any further action.

ALFREDO MORELOS was booked by Old Firm ref Kevin Clancy for his “game over” gesture to Celtic fans.

SunSport can reveal the Colombian striker was handed the equivalent of a post-match yellow card inside Celtic Park on December 29.

A yellow card, or caution… from the Laws of the Game ( not applicable in Scotland, it seems )

A yellow card is shown by the referee to indicate that a player has been officially cautioned.[1]:38 The player’s details are then recorded by the referee in a small notebook; hence a caution is also known as a “booking”. A player who has been cautioned may continue playing in the game; however, a player who receives a second caution in a match is sent off 

A red card is shown by a referee to signify that a player must be sent off.[1]:38 A player who has been sent off is required to leave the field of play immediately, must take no further part in the game and cannot be replaced by a substitute, forcing their team to play with one player fewer.

Once a player has been sent off, they are not permitted to stay in the team’s technical area and must leave the immediate field or playing area.

Whilst the referee does have several discretionary powers, such as where he drinks after a game, or who’s team he is on when they need a penalty, there is, as far as I can see, no precedent or provision for a third booking.

A second sending off, yes, but this “equvalent ” of a yellow card is another example of why nine on a row may be a little more difficult if the SFA keep making up their own rules as we go along.

 

Given that Morelos did not seem to be making the getsure twoards the support, and appearred to be very keen on getting past the “rangers 2 coaches on the touchline to the tunnel, I’m more inclined to think that there was something else in the gesture, and that it was aimed not at the fams, but at someone in the tunnel.

Any altercation that followed has been very difficult to verify as no one is talking about it, on or off the record, in fact Christie hasn’t spoken at all, and Morelos has been on leave in south America while his club continues to tout him as not for sale.

Given the mysterious world of Scottish football, and the re-emergence of the Old Firm business model, one can only wonder what hands have been shook, backs have been scratched and knobs fiddled with behind closed doors…

Which leads me to something that may be something or may be nothing.

The Celtic share price has been dropping this week, quite significantly as well..

It became noticeable on Jan 14…

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Jan 15:

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Jan 16:

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Someone is selling up, but no one is saying why .

On a lighter note, our accounting experts reckon thats a near £4m hit for Dermot Desmond…

Falls in value can be attributed to all sorts of things, but curiously no one in the media has icked up on what might be a potentially damaging story for Celtic.

Certainly Lindsell Train have had an issue or two with their portfolio, but there doesn;t seem to be any reason for the drop apart from that, unless there are whispers of a drop in revenue, say from the collapse of a rival…

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In fact, it’s been a strange old Janaury on many counts.

Celtic have signed the Polish forward and now an Ivorian midfielder for a total of £6m, and ordinarily that would be seen as progress, but as neither of the two are capable of displacing key players in the team at this point, it begs the question as to why, when surely one player at £6m who could walk inot the team would have been better, or are we about to see Siro replace Christie, and heaven forbid, the Pole replace all three of our current forwards, one of which wants out on loan, the lump that is Bayo, one that will be sent, the chump that is Griffiths, and one that can’t be arsed with us any more, who is about to dump on us, Edoaurd ?

 

This transfer window is leaving the average supporter a little concenred, not just on the field, but off it as well.

The establishment, determined to stop any more celebrations on the east end, which aren’t good for the game, are going all out to .well, establish themselves again.

The club, meaning the board, the CEO and the owner are doing very little to protect their own investment, which means they are doing even less to protect our investment, which granted is an emotional one, and there is a general feeling if uneasiness which , whilst still quite a way below the surface, could erupt at any time.

 

I hate to sound all negative, but it’s very difficult to be anything else when what should have been a season where the club went from strength to strength has been replaced by a malaise and a complacency that is going to be very difficult for everyone to shake off once the boots start flying again.

 

There is food for thought though, from 1sports1.com, who recently published a list of the top 12 most passionate fans in the world, and in at number three, behind Boca juniors and Dortmund, were Celtic, the only British team to feature..

Celtic FC is not just a football club to its supporters, it’s a way of life, a symbol of cultural and religious heritage, and their fierce rivalry with Rangers FC is one of the most bitter in the world game. Celtic Park is renowned for being a pit of noise intimidating enough to throw even the game’s greatest off their game.

Barcelona’s Lionel Messi once said of Celtic Park: “I’ve been fortunate to play in some great stadiums in Europe with Barcelona but none compare to Celtic. The atmosphere their fans create make it a very special European night of football.” Very little can top the big match atmosphere in Glasgow, it is just unfortunate that those big nights may be few and far between this coming season.

 

Yet if the board lack passion, how can the fans be expected to keep it up

 

It’s Frdiay, and after several days of searching for my laptop charger after the furniture was rearranged, there is a temptation for me to appoint myself as the Etims

Knob of the Week, 

But I don’t have to.

not while there are still those hoping to gain a wee bit of credibility for the work they do on behalf of “rangers “, who really need to raise some money sharpish, and thus a wee rundown of their assets and values can do no harm at all, even if those values appear to be based on little more than a flight of fancy…

Every Rangers player’s transfer value assessed as Steven Gerrard’s £80m squad value revealed

The Ibrox club have some very valuable assets on their books after some solid transfer work in recent years. 

Incidentally, they have recently turned down an inquiry for Barasic, the Croatian, presumably because what Roma wanted to pay for a largely untired defender with some ptential doesn’t quite match the opinions of Skint FC, who seem to think he’s on a par with Keiran Tierney.

MacFarlanes whole article seems to be based on what Celtic get for their players, as opposed to what they are actually worth, and bearing in mind the differences of the achievements of both squads including international records, that seems to be a rather loose premise.

So, for doing the work of the Fat Controller in the way all hacks fell they have to, the one time blogger has joined many of his comrades in earning the accolade of Etims

Knob of the Week 

Jonathan McFarlane on Muck Rack

 

so, back to Monday for the last caption competition…

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Puggy67

today, and we’ll have no mention of any scurrilous rumours in the answers, if you please…

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Dziekanowski's nightclub child
4 years ago

Caption: I sware to god the Inverness players hand was up here!

Gav
4 years ago

Caption: You were good when you were this big, but yer shite noo

4 years ago

Gary, take that top off, you look like your Mum!

4 years ago
Reply to  Desimond

Caption “Gary if the water is any deeper than this for Gods sake dont dive in”

Mike
4 years ago
Reply to  Ralph Malph

Still think your knob of the week for keeping us waiting till now.

desdamoaner
4 years ago

so the water was up to here?

Mike
4 years ago

After a slight rally this morning, the Celtic shares are valued @ 130- now! So from a 165 high, now down to 130.
Quite a significant drop in recent times, Lindsell-Train we know are having some problems and need to raise some cash, perhaps that explains the drop, or Someone has inside information on Sports Directs court case, which should raise the shares in jelly and ice-cream. We live in hope. I’le have sprinkles and strawberry sauce on mine please 😉

Cortes
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike

“Sprinkles”?
Is that posh for “100s n 1000s”?

Evilgenius9
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike

I noticed the share price fall as well and was going to say the same about Lindsell Train. Their fund as been down graded and a lot of investors are selling out of it. Therefore LT are having to sell some of their stock including Celtic to give cash back to investors.

This transfer window feels like when Strachan replaced O’Neill to me. Strachan got 3 players in for the £40k a week that Lambert was on. Ok, two of them were the holy goalie and Zurawski (cant remember the 3rd) but I agree with Ralph, with 9 IR a stake I’d muhc rather spend £6m on a £40k a week player than 2 subs.

Evilgenius9
4 years ago
Reply to  Evilgenius9

True, I thought he did a brilliant job. Fingers crossed it works again but I think we need a couple of guys to get in the 1st team straight away. Maybe the 2 new boys will do that anyway.

Evilgenius9
4 years ago
Reply to  Evilgenius9

Yes, fingers crossed mate.

Has anyone kept tabs on whats been happening with Turnbull? I’d heard we would sign him this Jan but I dont know if he’d even pass a medical yet.

abalony
4 years ago
Reply to  Evilgenius9

Naka

desdamoaner
4 years ago

aside from the caption. I’d get rid of the league cup if one has to go. Not sure what the point of a winter break is if the price is 9 games in December followed by two games a week out into March.

4 years ago

CAPTION

Aye,wee man-I’d had it up to here wi that cunt Lawwell.

Henrik
4 years ago

Caption : ffs Gary i haven’t see you since you were this height

4 years ago

Uch gary i told u in the toilets to make sure u put your shorts back on the right way

Mike
4 years ago

The best thing that I read about Soro, was that he was hungry, for a hungry player is a player dedicated to success. Lets hear it for HUNGER. There should be no automatic right for any player to just walk into the Celtic team, competition for places is needed to push players on. Not saying that our currant first team squad are not hungry, but unless there is competition for first team places, then complacency can set in. A hungry player is a winning player, but he must earn the right to play in the Celtic team. Still watching the clock for a couple of experienced players to join the team, players a wee bit more physical, one to win the midfield battle and a striker to be our target man, another option when opposition teams sit in. “Mon the Tic.”

Man in denial about his helipad
4 years ago

Question:

if Moreorless (less) made his throat slitting gesture in front of a minor Colombian drug lord or indeed a 2 bit henchman of said druglord how many seconds would he have lasted on this earth ?

The gesture was for the police to intervene, but

operation sell the throat -sitting- gesturer is in full mode

only in scotland.

Think about that.

Only in Scotland.

ps he also took an age to leave the field. A further offence in itself.

Man in denial about his helipad
4 years ago

CAPTION:

Yes it’s a colombian gesture meaning I want to chop your “effin head off.

Cortes
4 years ago

In fact it refers to “degollar” or

“Your throat is gonna be cut”

So: nowt to worry the SFA…

Mike
4 years ago

I hear that there was a big delivery this afternoon to Celtic park, Preperation H. our custodians sitting on Piles of cash. Peter chose Germoloid ointment apparently it eases rectum pain, for the SFA. have been bending over him for years. He should also take Strepsil for his sore throat, its making him very quiet.

bgbhoy
4 years ago

how many times this season have you quoted the manager re Griffiths and its not actually what has happened?

you were quoting him in September that he was a week away etc and you were told he wouldn’t be seen for months which is what happened

The Cha
4 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

TBF Griffiths was behind Morgan but the latter has now left.

The Cha
4 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

107, what’s that the pathetically little number of minutes he’s played since he’s been back and rarin’ to go 2 months ago?

Those of us that know football will judge him on what he does and doesn’t do on the football pitch.

Just like the manager that’s been rather underwhelming and why he’s delighted to get players in to cover for Eddy, as he doesn’t have that.

Reality v soundbites.

Iancelt67
4 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

Griff is done. He’s mentally unattended and untenable going forward. It happens. His demons have got the better of him he needs a fresh start with his boyhood heroes.

Iancelt67
4 years ago
Reply to  Iancelt67

Unattuned *

Bgbhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

What they say in the press and what actually happens is two very different things

Puggy67
4 years ago

The Scottish Cup means only one thing to me, the summer’s sun shining on a sea of white and green. Provan’s free kick, McGarvey’s last kick for Celtic and it was a heeder, Big Roy waving them on ‘attack, attack, attack’, the Maestro spraying baws about like Exocets. Those were my youthful days in the sun. Let’s not deprive the young un’s of theirs.

The Cha
4 years ago

“The Scottish Cup…Worth It Or Not?”

Yes, it is, as its what we play the game for, to win Cups, Leagues, Trebles etc.

The fans should give the team their full backing in these and all games.

The off-field concerns are for the club hierarchy to deal with and, if they don’t, then that’s where fans’ ire should be directed and not in lack of support for the team.

The Cha
4 years ago

re Finn McRobb “He’ll learn, as he gets older”.

Personally don’t see anything wrong with what he said but perhaps I just didn’t learn, as I got older. 😉

The Cha
4 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

In your head. 🙂

The Cha
4 years ago

“Scotland and the Klan” BBC4 Sunday 2330.

This is a repeated programme but I’ve never seen it before, so might be worth a swatch.

Its presented by Neil Oliver, who’s not well loved, but hopefully that doesn’t spoil it.

Puggy67
4 years ago

Caption: Yeah so Mr Lawwell he rubbed the KY jelly on his hand, stuck it my arse and suddenly I found myself saying ‘I want to sign Wakaso, Tonev, Berget and Scepovic.’

portpower
4 years ago

sevco master abettor FC.

henkesdreadlocks
4 years ago

Absolutely raging about the latest shenanigans courtesy of Klan SFA.
You were warned a very long time ago Lawwell and we are now seeing the fruits of your pathetic stewardship of our club.

Ruralbhoy
4 years ago

Henke,stop your greetin and raging ,there is only two things to do .1) report Lawwell to the financial ombudsman for his dereliction to the shareholders re ,res 12 and smoking gun proof .2)ask courts for freedom of information act for 5way agreement and demand publication and then report to London police. Report SFA to uefa but that will find them corrupt ,incompetent and get cfc banned from Euro comps but we are never going to win a euro cup with him in charge so go for it

4 years ago

So Morelos got a yellow card after being sent off? It has taken 3 or more weeks for this to come out wtf. Are they making up rules as they go along.
I was on a cruise over January and a stop over we had was Cartagena in Colombia. Having my hoops on I politely asked the meaning of the gesture made by morelos and if it indeed meant the finish of the game to my young football mad tour guide. He laughed loudly and said no amigo it is the end of you in my country. Enough said as I knew what the answer would be anyway.
Is our board really just going to keep sitting at the back of the bus and taking this shite. Our players and supporters deserve better. We need leaders both on and off the park, at the moment we have Broony. Lenny has messed up a squad in my opinion. Sinclair being left out for players who couldn’t lace his boots was as bad a decision as I have seen ever by a manager at our club.
Not to match sevco in the midfield after playing with that formation for 3 matches prior to the game another unbelievable decision after what happened in the cup final. We are out of chances it is the defining month of the season. Wanyana should have been brought back the money spent on 2 unknowns is stupid at best. Unless we get players who will fight in then it might be the end of the dream of 10 in a row. Our manager needs to get our best players back. Big Tom Rogic has to come back in Ntcham has to come in the wingers can be brought on later when the midfield battles are won.
It’s time for war no more fucking about.
Bolingoli has to be dropped Mikey is a lightweight needs put out on loan. Hayes would run through brick walls for this team get him in.
Forster
Frimpong Jullien Ajer Hayes
Forrest Brown Ntcham McGregor Rogic
Edouard.
Up the Celts.

Bognorbhoy
4 years ago

Caption….
When I was in Peters office the cash was stacked this high all round the room , I asked if it was the transfer fund …I had to call an ambulance , he had split his side’s

Cortes
4 years ago

Oh Peter Lawwell with the eyes so blue (!)
The only midfielder we got from you is
Soro
Soro!

(C) moi

sfa unfit for
4 years ago

Gary , yer stonner is way up at yer belly button ffs, sort it out.

portpower
4 years ago

The Winter break,eh. Good times!

Good times to be had by some.
One could end up with a burst appendix that becomes a mysterious virus. Costing you a few weeks off of your work.

How long does Ganja stay in your system?

portpower
4 years ago

Caption:
Gary,Gary. Who am I?
I`m Peter asleep at the wheel.

portpower
4 years ago

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