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Celtic Diary Sunday January 6: The Media In Action..Or Inaction.

What a to do this weekend.

First we have Celtic releasing a statement concerning their concerns about the standard of refereeing after the SFA compliance officer-you’ll note she’s been demoted to the extent she no longer deserves capital letters- backed referee John Beaton who said in his match report from Ibrox that he had seen all the Morelas assaults and deemed them to be within the rules.

Sky TV , to be fair, were the first to shift the blame, deciding that a darts player was somehow to blame..

The public have not seen this report, incidentally, and therefore any claims that it was signed J. Beaton WATP are likely to be false.

The Celtic statement said;

Celtic Football Club is surprised that there will be no disciplinary action taken by the Scottish FA regarding the incidents during the match on December 29, which have been widely addressed in the media. 

It is reported that no action was taken because the match referee saw all of the incidents in question. 

Given that the referee took no action at the time, this tends to suggest that such conduct, which in one instance led to a Celtic player, Anthony Ralston, being injured, is acceptable in Scottish football. That cannot be right.

On the day, Celtic did not play well enough to win the match, something we accept. However, this issue goes beyond the result of the match.

Celtic is not the only club this season to raise concerns regarding the standard of officiating at matches in Scotland, concerns which have also been shared by many commentators on the game.

In order to fully understand what is going on, Celtic, our supporters, Scottish clubs and the general Scottish football public need transparency in these matters, and we therefore call on the Scottish FA to allow the referee, John Beaton, to explain these decisions publicly as well as any match officials involved in other similar circumstances.

In the meantime, we have requested a meeting with Scottish FA Chief Executive, Ian Maxwell, and the Association’s Head of Refereeing. 

Concise, non inflammatory, and contains a mood not of anger, but a sense of bewilderment.

It even offers to meet with the head of refereeing to discuss the matter. The matter here is John Beaton.

John Beaton has a track record of controversial ( wrong ) decisions which do not favour Celtic, a penalty against Hearts for a clear dive, a sending off for Dedryck Boyata, delivered with a sneer..and so on.

He has a track record of controversial decisions favouring “rangers “, going back as far as allowing a late equaliser in the Scottish cup where the Alloa goalkeeper was fouled which gave “rangers ” a late equaliser, to another unique interpretation of the rules against Hamilton-the papers were all over this one-culminating in the performance of the season last weekend.

One would think there were grounds for an investigation.

Beaton is being scrutinised, and when his misdemeanours are laid out, there is certainly cause for concern.

What follows is a classic example of how the media works these days, not just in soft news, such as sports, but in hard news, such as politics. 

Due to cuts across the news industry, and reduced staffing levels at local and national level, reporters now cannot fully investigate stories in the way they used to.

With competition between rolling 24 hour tv channels and national newspapers fierce, overworked reporters must put together four, five , maybe as many as six stories each every day.

In a nutshell, its why there’s so much unsubstantiated shite out there.

One example is the millenium bug story, the one when all the planes were supposed to fall out of the sky when the new century began.

Complete bollocks, stemming from a ponderous scientific report as far back as 1993.

But the Press Association, a news agency from where nearly ninety per cent of all news stories originate, picked it up and put it out there.

Its the perfect story that can be run without checking, mere conjecture, with lots of room for hacks to add their own opinions, and that of others in the scientific world. none of whom would categorically deny the story, just in case a plane did fall out of the sky.

And so the story grew, right up until it was discovered to be a load of bollocks, and quietly disappeared from view.

There are several other examples, but thats the one we all remember.

So, returning to the case of Beaton, who is now finally being called out after a catalogue of errors.

A catalogue of errors that calls into question the way football , a massive industry with several other industries having more than a vested interest, either directly or indirectly.

Someone calls someone at the Press Association…

BREAKING – Press Association understands referee John Beaton has called in police after being targeted with threatening online messages in the wake of last weekend’s Old Firm clash. He has been bombarded with abusive texts from trolls after his contact details were leaked online 

John Beaton forced to call police after receiving threatening messages following game |   

The hacks at all the newspapers , radio stations and tv channels were delighted.

They don’t check PA stories, which come neatly packaged , short on detail and leave plenty of room for additional comment.

In the old days, a reporter would be despatched to speak to Beaton, the police would have been contacted, and we would have direct quotes from those involved.

Evidence would have been sought, and offered.

Later, it was confirmed by an unnamed spokesman that an unnamed man had been in touch with the police…by the Press association, giving the hacks all they needed to embellish a tale of terrible wrong doing, without fear of having to actually find out if it was true..

Police Scotland confirm to PA they have received a complaint after referee John Beaton’s contact details were leaked online. A spokesperson said: “We can confirm that a complaint has been made to police regarding texts and calls received by a 36 year-old man…

So,  we have a story that has not been verified, but a  story that will run and run, with no one anywhere having to actually do any work on it.

Why ?

Well, a cynic might think that Beatons somewhat controversial career as a referee, which even includes pictures of him drinking, apparently post match, in a well known “rangers ” supporters bar.

Even we at Etims have a witness or two to that effect.

and there are others, if you look for them..

You’ll note, however, that the mainstream media have not gone down that path. The path that night lead to someone establishing the truth, which most of us actually think is the primary purpose of the mainstream media.

Beaton has apparently received abuse.

Where is the evidence ? Which again one would think is pretty important in establishing both the nature and severity of the alleged offence.

So far, there is none.

Everything connected with this story, all the papers who have picked up on it, all the broadcast media that have discussed it, eminates from that single source.

And note the wording…which is actually non committal..which, in itself, one would think demanded scrutiny..

 Press Association understands referee John Beaton has called in police after being targeted with threatening online messages in the wake of last weekend’s Old Firm clash. He has been bombarded with abusive texts from trolls after his contact details were leaked online 

The second part of the statement is quite clear.. if lacking in detail.

He has been bombarded with abusive texts from trolls after his contact details were leaked online 

Text messages ? Is that online abuse, or does the wording imply both ?

Again, even this line is not subject to the rigorous checks that a professional reporter, had he the time, would enthusiastically seek to endorse or deny.

Everything that you read this weekend, everything that you heard, originates from that single Press Association release, and you can guarantee that no one has checked a single word of it.

But there is plenty of comment..

The SFA, of whom it would be fair to say have some questions themselves that need to be answered… expanded on the theme, even introducing a few “facts ” of their own, allowing the story to grow.. ( I’ve highlighted them, and note there is no corroboration anywhere else of these, but you can be sure they’ll be part of the growth process..)

Ian Maxwell, Chief Executive of the Scottish FA said:

“It is with deep dismay, that in the last 24 hours, we learned of one of our match officials having had threats made against him and his family.

So they’ve been texting his wife and kids as well ?

“We are in close contact with those involved and with Police Scotland to ensure that they are safe and that those responsible are identified and held accountable for their actions. 

 

This is not the first time in recent weeks that our match officials have been targeted. Another referee was allegedly threatened and assaulted at a lower-league game prior to Christmas. These incidents are isolated but are they are unacceptable and extremely concerning when they occur. 

No, it isn’t. Steven Gerarrd of “rangers ” is on record as asking if there was an agenda against his club. And we all remember the statements and prosecutions after a linesman was hit by a coin at a Livingston-“rangers ” match…

Craig Levein puts in his tuppence worth on a weekly basis. Others have questioned the standard of refereeing..not just that of Beaton.

“Our match officials make hundreds of decisions each game. They take huge pride in their work but it is inevitable and accepted that some of their decisions will be viewed differently and debated by others. When differences of opinion however manifest as threats to our officials or their families, a line has been crossed. 

There it is again. Families threatened. Remember the millenium bug example, which shows how a lie can grow wings and fly around the world, until, of course , it falls out of the sky…

Even the PA left out abuse to the families, but the SFA have added it, quietly, for extra sympathy, when , in fact, no one else has mentioned it.

“Match officials are a vital part of the game and they work exceptionally hard to maintain high standards. We all have a responsibility to support our match officials and, as previously stated, we will shortly be engaging with stakeholders to allow them to discuss issues, air concerns and propose improvements to this area of our game. 

Er, isn’t that what Celtic asked for ?

“As we look forward to 2019, I call on everyone involved in Scottish football, from the public parks to the international stage, to respect our match officials.” 

Respect has to be earned. Not demanded.

Then this lot joined in… the referees union..

Note again, as the story has not been checked, they are appalled by media reports , and not the offence, which of course, has not been verified…before going on to accept an unchecked story as fact, and condemn appalling behaviours of a tiny minority. 

Oh, and by the way, it’s “crisis”, not” crises “.

Anyone would think that someone had asked them for a response , and they’d put something together in a rush, without checking…

 

Then again, no one else has checked it, so why should they ?

Indeed, whoever out this out knew no one would check it, and yet its been accepted by everyone as fact.

That’s how it works these days. Thats why the papers are losing sales, and thats why no one trusts the media any more.

This story will die a natural death, but not before its deflected from the real issues, which i’ll clarify at the end.

 

So, whats the motive behind it ?

And more importantly, who is behind it, and why would they try to motivate public opinion behind a man who clearly has questions to answer about his performances of late.

A common practice of the SFa over the years has been to divide the supporters of Celtic and “rangers “, which has  them uninhibited scope to become untouchable behind their own closed doors at Hampden.

As long as the two cash cows of Scottish football are arguing among themselves, they get away with it.

The SFA looks after itself, although its fair to say there has been one particular beneficiary of late.

Its just a happy coincidence that the authorities needed little persuasion to bend the rules to suit.

They’ve been called out, and they have circled the wagons, but what they have also done is split the army attacking them, in such a way that they will attack each other.

That way, they can wait until the story runs its course, and they can find something else to deflect us with..

Thats pretty much what the mainstream media is used for these days…

 

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Mike Annis
5 years ago

It was ever thus and will continue. Waiting for the clubs to act, even our own, despite a wishy washy stahement, will be a long wait. The only answer is for fans to use their economic power. Stop paying for season tickets, boycott away matches etc etc. But that won’t happen. So wee Iwill be left with endless blogs and posts on FB full of fans moaning and actually doing nothing. When good people do nothing evil flourishes.

the 9 men of the apocalypse and craig whites pound coin
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike Annis

so we stop buying season tickets for Celtic thereby punishing our club which is openly being victimised in full view ?

Celtic are active in the transfer market, there is money to spend, a league to be won, Valencia to be overcome and the Scottish cup to be won.

Lets not derail any of that.

And I’m not a plc fan.

Rob O'Keeffe
5 years ago

Plc since 1897…..business has always come first….not just since Peter(Ralph’s pal) rolled up…..

Christina
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike Annis

Yes Mike Annis “was ever thus” and ever will be unless we unify and make our voices heard on this issue. The issue of boycotts etc is a topic to be explored down the road a bit I think if we are not seeing any results. It is early days, but I think we should be keeping pressure on the club to keep the pressure on the SFA. I’m of a mind that Celtic only were stirred into action by the realisation of the strength of feeling on this issue – God Bless social media! So we need to use this effective tool to keep the pressure on. Anyone who has seen Paul Larkin’s excellent film “Anyone but Celtic” (or read the book) will know what we’re up against here! This is a well established and strongly supported corrupt organisation. Equally strong is their ties to freemasonry and the Orange Order. Even those outwith the LRA can ofttimes be found to have links to one or other of the organisations. So these are not people who will easily buckle under pressure and I’m reasonably certain Celtic know this, which is possibly why they were reluctant to take them on in the first place. This is “get your hands dirty” sort of stuff not normally associated with our esteemed custodians. That is why I think unified action is required. Perhaps through Joe O’Rourke, or some other spokesperson if he is unwilling, just to give the Celtic support a unified voice in calling for this matter to be followed through ie asking for regular updates/statements from Celtic on the progress of their requests for explanations and/or meetings. We have seen that SMSM has already been mobilised to smear us and deflect attention away from the main issue so we need to mobilise the bloggers and social media users to keep up our side of this issue. I’m sure we can rely on the Green Brigade for support too. This may not seem like much but it’s a start and after all every journey begins with a single step. Better we try something than do nothing surely? If we at least started in some small way to keep the issue moving then we could build on that as, and when, it becomes necessary. We have a great tool in social media – perhaps we should see how useful it can be? Just my thoughts on subject anyway – interested to hear others. I don’t want this to fall away maybe when football is back and we get a few good results so we get distracted. Remember there is a Scottish Cup campaign to negotiate where,as we have seen, dodgy ref decisions can send us spiralling out not to mention the relentless league campaign where everything is going to be thrown at us to stop our march to the title. Two things to remember ‘rangers’ are up our arse and every referee in Scotland is going to do their bit to help them stay there until they overtake us (their thoughts not mine) and ‘rangers’ are in deep shit financially they desperately need a league win & CL money to survive -we stand between them and potential disaster. Do you really think the forces of darkness in this country are not going to do everything to help them? I know,I know they always do but this is the first time,in a long time, that they see any possibility of success. We cannot sit on our hands here – well that’s what I think anyway!

Maryhillbhoy
5 years ago
Reply to  Christina

Hear hear

Andrew Harris
5 years ago

Excellent writing with all the salient points highlighted.

jimboh
5 years ago
Reply to  Andrew Harris

Nice one Christina,
Hit … nail .. Head.
Nothing more needs to be said.
Utilising Social Media has it’s merits but efforts can get lost in the Tall Grass.
Direct comments to Celtic Board via @Celtic, on a daily basis let them know it is not going away and that we will not accept lip service from PL & IB. Meaningful discussions and a realistic timescale for genuine change is desired outcome. Nothing Less will do.
Boycotts should apply to SFA Cup & National Team games and SPFL away fixtures. Hit them all in the pocket. If they’re not with us they’re against us.
This is not just a footballing issue note the emergence of Call it Out the anti Irish/Catholic bigotry organisation. It’s the 21st Century not the 17th. A multicultural Scotland it is not unless the concerns of at least 15/16% of the population are not being addressed.
Let’s Grow It. Don’t let it fall by the wayside. No more deflection. Especially from the Board. FC not PLC.
The PlC side of the Club must be made to realise that the function of the Club is to address the needs of the Clubs Supporters not the shareholders, institutional or otherwise. It should be a not for profit organisation. It, however, should break even and excess revenue ploughed back into the Team, The Celtic Foundation and the Stadium and other Socially deserving ventures.

the 9 men of the apocalypse and craig whites pound coin
5 years ago

Just fixed Prospect’s statement by adding:

“We would like to totally and absolutely deny that any referee, anywhere, ever, having officiated a high risk derby match, would then go drinking in a supporters bar of one of the 2 teams involved in the derby. You would need to be extremely stupid to do that*.”

Edits:

*or simply not care because, heh, it’s Scotland.

Ian can thank me later.

George Lazenbhoy
5 years ago

Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media
Book by Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky

You’ll see so many parallels with our press and their case studies.

BJF
5 years ago

I don’t doubt Beston has had abusive comments directed at him. If any of us ssw him walking down the street I am sure we would say something. The thing is he wound be protected if he declared his allegience to whatever club he supports and then waxnt allowed to referee in matches involving that club or any matches where the outcome might have an impact on it. Welcome Oliver Burker but it’s the guy back I wxnt, our issues are in defence and apparently he played in the Atalanta side that was third in Serie A and Europa League quarter finalists.

5 years ago

Is Boyata still here?

Rob O'Keeffe
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Yes,he’s sharing a donkey sanctuary with Cooarsi,Chomper,Hendry,Mulumbu,Lustig,Hayes,Sinclair,Congerton…..

gash67
5 years ago

It wasn’t Alloa it was Albion Rovers

Yours pedantically

Gash67

5 years ago

Taking my wee one to see ‘ Wreck it Ralph 2 ‘ this morning, i love it when there’s one malteser left in the box & there’s that polite awkwardness about who get’s the last one……
I usually give her the last one….but it’s fun watching her squirm for a bit first 🙂

Honest hoops
5 years ago

Where was Beatons conduct when you observe the rule of “safety of players” in the incidents…in the crown bar apparently….

Puggy67
5 years ago

Wag the Dog. The only movie with Dustan Hoffman and Robert Di Niro you won’t see on TV. You can manufacture a whole series of events on the tiniest premise – the threat to global peace from Albania. As I’ve previously said I think we walked into this one. There will never be a satisfactory resolution in this country’s football association. Until we play our football in an association that isn’t corrupted (names on a list please) the best course of action is to have as much dig in the team as they do. Retaliate first.

TicToc
5 years ago
Reply to  Puggy67

Puggy, I’ll try to get Wag the Dog, somehow, (there are many ‘arteries’) as I think it’s absolutely required viewing when the arseholes who run our globe don’t want you to see it.I’m scanning comments, perhaps looking for something crucial, and hence picked this, albeit somewhat randomly. I thought I was over a Man-flu typea virus thingy but it’s back wi’ a vengeance today. Anyway, point (to me) is this. Anthony Ralston is a young guy who’ll hold his own (hard as too) with anyone; my worry when we saw him vs Barca was he seemed a wee bit slow. Last performances he has sufficient pace and a whole array of footballing ability, Anthony Ralston MUST be given his chance NOW with Mika fading into the background and moving on in summer.
November and December proved to me that Scott Brown is no longer an answer in our Mid. As I stated previously on here, Scott probably knows it too! Time to go, we run all over teams with the dynamic McGregor, Christie and Rogic.
Play the scum, the SFA, the fucking referees, freemasonry and orangeism right into fucking history; they’ve bet heavily on success this year; WE NEED TO MAKE THEM ALL REGRET IT. “ALL” includes Peter TB Lawwell, Get him tae fuck, the over-paid, over-bonused, complicit fuckin’ arsehole!! (His move with the letter to the SFA was forced on him by people like me, not by any form of personal integrity as he has none. LEST WE FORGET.
HH

TicToc
5 years ago
Reply to  Puggy67

Puggy, I answered your comment as I thought it was pretty good. Above average one might say. I’m not in full agreement.
Anyway, pulled for it’s offensive attack on all sorts of cheating…not important. That’s a piss-take, as eTims is the least restrictive site, as well as the BEST TIM SITE ON THE PLANET
IMPORTANT is that guys like you keep posting your truths and guys like Ralph, John James, Phil Mac, James Forrest, Joe McHugh et cetera keep giving us some sort of voice.
I HATE CHEATS.
I LOVE THE CELTIC.
I’ll continue to fight for all causes that we have in common.
When available, I’ll continue to contribute to this ESSENTIAL artery of information.
HH

portpower
5 years ago

FOOTBALL is FIXED
‏@footballisfixed 29 Dec 2018

#FootballisFixed would like to honour the one fan group that, over the last decade, has held football institutions, club owners/board & media to account – the Green Brigadeat #CelticFC.
Football could have been saved from the mafia if more fan groups were like the GB.

Legend07
5 years ago
Reply to  portpower

The same GB that has absolutely NOTHING in the past about the cheating with all matters regrading 5WA or res 12

SteveNaive
5 years ago

Re the Rovers game where Beaton allowed the goal. Exact same incident Friday night at Morton v Ross County. Morton keeper Gaston fouled in the air late on and the ball goes in. Callum, for it is he, rightly gives a foul on the keeper( who had to go off) and sends off a County player for verbal abuse.

D J Smyth
5 years ago

Beaton cannot be practicising the highest levels required to be the best at his job or he wouldn’t be out drinking during the season.
Beaton showed his partiality by telling jokes to Rangers players during match . Surely if the Union & the SFA had the slightest interest in running a fair game both organisations would issue statements saying ” they can understand how some people may think some of Beaton’s decision making on Saturday fell short of his & Scottish referees in general, standard. We have had a good discussion & we are happy Mr Beaton will act at the highest standard required in the future”

Iancelt67
5 years ago
Reply to  D J Smyth

What a ref can’t have a beer and do a match the following week?

DJ Smyth
5 years ago
Reply to  Iancelt67

Iancelt67
Your total ignorance about alcohol & how it hold’s back people ‘scfitness reflects in why the Scottish nation is so poor at sports in general .
We are told referees work to the highest standard , that cannot include drinking alcohol during season .
I am not saying a beer is necessary bad for a ref , but it is if he is working to the highest standard

D'Fhinnein Mick
5 years ago

I don’t think even Arthur Scargill would call a strike because one of his members was caught cheating. Especially not when no action has been taken against said member.

Ruralbhoy
5 years ago

Cheatin Beaton at the Greetin, one point I would like to make is in a future game Beaton is a ref and broony just walks up and kicks a opponent in the balls what does the ref do ? He Has set a precedent with his own bent mindset.If he sends brown off then just refuse to go if he insists walk the team off ,don’t pay the fines and it must go to UEFA.The SFA have dug a massive hole here and it will only end in another ref strike which the tabloids will blame on cfc again .I initially thought cfc statement was weak but now maybe a bit catchy monkey,knowing the SFA are totally incompetent or corrupt to a point they would back their self into corner to save sevco at any costs.Beaton was a fool drinking in that bar ,would anybody care if he had just went to neutral pub ?he would still had the orcs congratulations but no hassle.In my tiny mind he has brought both things on himself. TOOL!

The Cha
5 years ago

Good article on Not The View by ROBBIE FOULER 🙂 on the mechanics of the last time this particular diversionary tactic was used, although this time there’s no Steven Craven to give the lie to it.

ntvceltic.wordpress dot com/2019/01/05/the-refs-notebook

Facts matter and the Millennium Bug was real; it was just simple but expensive to resolve. I know cause I got a good 2-5 years work out of it. 😉

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

ntvceltic.wordpress.com/2019/01/05/the-refs-notebook

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

ntvceltic.wordpress.com/2019/01/05/the-refs-notebook

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha
D'Fhinnein Mick
5 years ago

ntvceltic.wordpress.com/2019/01/05/the-refs-notebook

The Cha
5 years ago

Thanks Mick!

I did eventually get the right link at the 3rd attempt but this is awaiting moderation, as Desi & Ralph need to check that this doesn’t trigger Charlie Saiz. 😉

The Cha
5 years ago

Suck on a Fisherman’s Friend.

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

I see your cough’s gone.

Glad to be of service.

Rob O'Keeffe
5 years ago

Don’t understand why Celtic fans are surprised at how corrupt Scottish football has always been.Celtic aren’t the Establishment Club and never will be.PL,DD and the board are well aware of the powers that are lined up against Celtic.
Does anyone honestly think that,all of a sudden,all the anti-Celtic/RC/Irish mob are going to change their ways especially with Timmy banging on about 10 for years.They will only take so much and then,as you see,it’s full steam ahead to stop the Rebels mostly by crook.They would even be willing to liquidate but only once Celtic haven’t won the league.Open your eyes and ears.Why do you think they sing WATP(sorry)?….

BroxburnBhoy
5 years ago

Now the Celtic have asked to address the eccentric referring on show at the last Glasgow Derby, we may as well go for broke and raise the whole European license, 5 way agreement, vacating titles won while running an illegal tax scheme designed to give a sporting advantage and the ongoing deeper and deeper debt being accumulated by “Rangers”. They have seen that movie before. The Celtic Board have seen the reaction to raising issues with inconsistent referring – May as well wade in and ask for meetings on all of these topics too.

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  BroxburnBhoy

I can’t work out if you’re being serious or sarcastic!

Assuming the former then I totally disagree, as this would be a recipe to have a long drawn out unfocused process that would not produce anything.

Instead we should stick at the single issue that has been raised and, hopefully, after getting success there, moving on to broadening out the discussion.

BroxburnBhoy
5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

Hello Cha I’m being serious. Celtic raised this Beaton matter in a very diplomatic and measured way. The reaction has been we are paranoid and we have unleashed all kinds of potential harm. This over a clarification for referring decisions. One by one, may be that strategy already failed. Here is an opportunity to up the ante and force the SFA at least to respond by publishing specific questions and our surprise that they have yet to be answered. Just like our surprise at the inconsistent referring we saw recently at Ibrox and the odd decision by the SFA to take no further action apparently because Beaton saw the incidents!! Talk about self incrimination. He saw them he let them pass, all the pundits and everybody else saw red cards. I wonder if somebody flew in studs up hurt Another player and the ref saw it and Did nothing would that stand? That is the principle being followed in the Beaton case

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  BroxburnBhoy

I’m with you on the evidence we’ve got to nail this on double standards and completely the wrong interpretation of the rules.

I think we should concentrate on getting a result out of that before introducing other things, as that would lead to the charges of paranoia and diverted attention away from the matter in hand.

The current diversion is easily dealt with (“we total deplore it etc and should be dealt with by appropriate authorities”, whilst pursuing the issue at hand).

Over the years, what victories have we had over the authorities?

– Flag Flutter
– Farry
– Sporting Integrity 2008
– Neil Lennon consecutive suspensions

Pretty few and far between, so don’t believe we should be opening up new fronts at this stage.

BroxburnBhoy
5 years ago

Wonder why Beaton was not deemed a guy that brings it on himself after been seen drinking in a well
Known rangers pub, like Neil Lennon was when he received death threats and bullets in the post? Hmmm ?

Uralius
5 years ago

Caption: Turns out that the pound used to buy Oldco was from The Lanakshire Lodge and twa the same pound that struck High Dallas.

highseastim
5 years ago

Everyone and their dog saying the treatment Beaton is getting is disgusting, not as disgusting as the fact that Beaton DID SEE the three “red card” incidents and thought none were even a yellow, no other word than an out and out cheat!! Let us not forget that Dougie “red card, red card” Ross was one of the linesman ( my bastard Tory MP), and funnily enough he didn’t seem to think of flagging to get the refs attention, another corrupt fucking cheat!!

5 years ago
Reply to  highseastim

highseastim,
Totally agree!

alan cameron
5 years ago

Christina

Very well said, but I don’t see social media as being the great leveller.

Unfortunately, IMO it’s up to Celtic – at board level – to follow up what I thought was their mealy-mouthed statement, although I was grateful even for that.

This is the time to hit the SFA with the whole box of questions, joining all the dots from 2011 till the point a week ago where a referee cheats blatantly and often, then hours later is happy to be seen drinking and posing for selfies in a Sevco pub, and the SFA subsequently sees nothing wrong.

Celtic issue a statement (in an – I’m kind of complaining if it’s all right with you chaps, John Le Mesurier, kind of way).

Within about two hours, there’s a newsflash claiming that the smug arrogant cheat who was celebrating his performance was simultaneously being bombarded by hate mail targeting him and his family.

But no-one’s seen the texts in question. No-one has verified the story. But fabricated or not, everyone is running with it.

So again, the agenda has been set by – guess who?

We need to deal with this Goebbels crap head-on, and the thing is, we have proven facts on our side to do so.

What we don’t have is a Board prepared to do it.

Christina
5 years ago
Reply to  alan cameron

Alan Cameron I totally agree re Board and their responsibilities and I certainly don’t mean social media ie fans should be deflecting from that – what I meant in post was that I didn’t think the Board would have acted at all if they weren’t made aware of the strength of feeling on this issue via social media. They knew Celtic fans were clamouring for some action -hence the statement! My thoughts, going forward, was that fans should keep up the pressure on them via this useful platform to make sure they follow through on this situation. I totally agree that all cheating incidences should be addressed (most especially Res 12) but I think it might be softly, softly catchee monkey here -get them into the trenches on the blatant cheating of refs in our games for a start. Beaton cannot get away with this and the ridiculous stuff in the papers now linking this to every incident (making sure it’s on both sides of course – their beloved “Old Firm” cobblers) since the 90’s is smoke screening at its finest! The SFA have much to fear from Celtic asking difficult questions so you better believe we have a fight on our hands here. We all know our CEO & Board are not up for such a battle so that is why I was asking if a united campaign on social media might help focus their attention on the task in hand.

Tim Buffy
5 years ago

Oh, and for your education and edification Concept.
It’s ‘by-stander’ NOT ‘bye-stander.’
Yours,
Tim Buffy,
Pedant and Spellchecker Supreme.

Iancelt67
5 years ago

It was me who sent the messages to Beaton but they weren’t threats they were more amorous and well intimate. I don’t handle rejection too well. He’s found this out already. This isn’t over

Christina
5 years ago
Reply to  Iancelt67

Ian -did you send him death threats too? Apparently, the “abusive texts” have now been escalated to death threats and he had to have a police guard yesterday when doing his job! Tut tut – bit heavy handed for him not following up on your night of passion 🙂

Iancelt67
5 years ago
Reply to  Christina

The rabbits in his slow cooker as we write

Christina
5 years ago

Anybody seen front page of tomorrow’s DR “Sutton Death Threat” headline? Knew that was only a matter of time didn’t we? How dare he imply any bias or cheating against Celtic – particularly on TV where he was banging the drum on BT sport programme. They don’t want their dirty little secrets aired outside this country do they? Sutton now has the English media talking about this and watching the incidents in question! Death threat message been passed to Police Scotland so that’s the end of that then eh??

henkesdreadlocks
5 years ago
Reply to  Christina

It probably emanated from Helen Street.

Iancelt67
5 years ago

Who knows. Maybe a serial killer out there planning to do refs in. His mothers basement with loads of pictures on the wall of whistlers.

Iancelt67
5 years ago

Look much as I defend referees. The first incident was a send off more than the others he’s booted him on purpose. Added to that it’s a lengthy suspension. You may as well not have rules if they’re not applied. Especially with serious violent conduct. Not a yellow a red. Off!!

5 years ago
Reply to  Iancelt67

Iancelt,
The most galling thing about all of Beaton’s performance was the fact he said ” I seen all of the incidents “?

greenmaestro
5 years ago

This whole weekend has been a Fake News fest. I was unlucky enough to hear some of the chat on Sportsound on Saturday.

Of all the drivel the best was Tam English asking why this had to be done in public. I wonder if he realises what he gets paid for and how it gets out there.

A wee note though, If I sent you a text message, I can threaten your family, your dog and the guy who sells you your fags without having to contact them directly.

5 years ago

Anyone got John Beaton’s mobile number?
I have a few questions for him.

Noel Skytrot
5 years ago

You’ve got to scratch your head in bewilderment at some of the stuff the Newco hordes are coming out with over the Cheatin Beaton affair.

Calling us scum for ALLEGEDLY threatening Beaton.
They conveniently forget that their klanbase sent viable explosive devices and bullets to Lennon before they expired in 2012, talk about idiocy.

Another cracker is that this defeat has destroyed us. You would think that they would keep their mouths shut about destruction as they sat and waved red cards and done fuck all when RFC imploded and now ceases to exist. At least we fought tooth and nail to keep what is rightfully ours, not forgetting the most successful share issue by the supporters of any club on this island. Huns clearly don’t get the concept of irony and when trying to take the moral high ground you think to yourself, what a shower of tossers they are.

Noel Skytrot
5 years ago

Phil Mac claiming that BR has made enquiries about two signings from the EPL, probably a couple of loan deals.

charlie
5 years ago

when you see the lenghts the establishment will go to to cheat at fitba it makes you wonder what else they would corrupt ask fergus

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

every celtic fan anywere in the world should be proud of everything theyv achieved because everything theyv achieved in theyr life theyv achieved on theyr own merit without having to join any secret organisation to get ther …Fergus Mc Cann

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

it woulda cost less and left the previous owners with nothing to go into liquidaton but t would also be hmiliating for celtic so we paid all the bills celtic means the same to me as it does to other fans identify with the club and wish to be proud of it …..Fergus

Noel Skytrot
5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

Chazza, no cunts listening. Lol

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