“He is definitely one of the players that we would like to keep and we are working towards that just now.
“We talk all the time and we are always looking to work on the squad. He is one of the players that we would like to tie up on a long-term deal.
“He’s very important in our team. He has a lovely technique, he has innovation and is creative. The technical aspect he has is the top level.”
Ronny Deila on Tom Rogic, not so long ago. Sound familar ? Its the usual speech about how we relaly want them to stay, shortly before they don’t.
The Aussie Ardiles has slipped out of favour since the manager found out he shares a car to work in the morning with the other “contract rebel ” , James Forrest.
And he hasn’t signed his contract yet either.
Maybe nobody can find a pen in the east end of Glasgow.
Or maybe someone keeps hiding them.
Over in Australia they rate Rogic quite highly, and they are a little concerned it will affect their World Cup bid, as “The World Game ” reports;
It’s an impasse which could have repercussions for the national team as Socceroos coach Ange Postecoglou prepares to name his squad for next month’s crucial FIFA World Cup qualifiers against Tajikistan and Jordan.
Rogic, 23, has been conspicuous by his absence from the Bhoys’ last two squads – the 3-0 win over Inverness and the 1-1 draw against Hamilton Academical, as he apparently pays the price for holding out for a better offer.
Though discussions began in November over extending Rogic’s contract beyond mid-2017, it’s believed the playmaker, who has scored six goals in 21 league appearances this season, is far from convinced by the terms on the table.
As a result, the club appear to have taken the same hard-line stance with Rogic as they have with Scottish international winger James Forrest, who has been branded a ‘contract rebel’ for declining to sign a new four-year deal and also effectively banished from the first team squad.
Both played their last games for the Hoops off the bench in the 2-0 win over Aussie Jackson Irvine’s Ross County on 13 February – and have not been sighted in the first team squad since, despite being match fit and keen to help the club push on towards a Scottish Premiership and Scottish Cup double. ……
……..However, it appears that with Rogic standing his ground amid increasingly tense negotiations, the club is playing hardball in an attempt to force a climb-down.
Rogic’s frustration at Deila’s brinkmanship will be compounded by the fact that he missed four games with an ankle injury before his return against Ross County, and is desperate not to lose the momentum he has gained this season.
Celtic’s tough approach will not have gone unnoticed by Postecoglou, who was expecting a match-hardened and fully functioning Rogic to help spearhead the Socceroos into the final phase of qualifying for Russia 2018 by brushing past Tajikistan and Jordan to top Group B, with the games in Adelaide and Sydney next month.
Emilio Izaguirre is also being watched by Seville, and there’s a feeling that this is only the beginning as players begin to realise that there’s no need for them to be paid footballs equivalent of the minumum wage. Especially if they aren’t getting a regular start, as it’s apparently the appearance money that makes their wage, well, better.
This isn’t moralising about the obscene wages footballers get. If it’s on offer, they’d be daft not to take it, and it won’t last forever, so you cannot blame them for upping sticks and picking up perhaps two or three times what they are getting n glasgow, and maybe a large signing on fee as well.
Certainly non British players, as who knows what restrictions would be in place after an exit from the European Union if the impending referendum throws up that scenario ?
Actually, one consolation of a return to “splendid isolationism ” ( if you don’t count colonialism and the resultant exploitation when you use the word splendid ) could be the collapse of the English League.
Poor Rupert Murdoch.
He hates the European union because they largely ignore him, loves Westminster because they let him do anything, but the consequence of a breakaway might see a big chunk of his business collapse.
Worth the risk, I suppose. If we slip a wee note to the Europeans as to our motives, they should let us back in when Cameron, Murdoch and a few other loons have been consigned to history.
They’d be up for that, the English league is playing havoc with their set ups as well as ours.
Anyway, I digress… ( You mean ramble-Ed-again. )
Aberdeen blew another chance to gain ground on Celtic in the title race, drawing 1-1 with St. Johnstone. Still, they’re an optimistic lot up north, as dons defender Mark Reynolds shows us, or you’d think so from the headline, which appeared in the Record;
Aberdeen defender Mark Reynolds:
We can still catch Celtic and win the Premiership title.
Nit really what he said, as you can see. More a sort of well we might but don’t put any money on it sort of whine.
“We were always confident that Celtic would lose points as they did on Friday night.
“We knew there would be the odd draw here and there and that we were close enough, that that might be enough, especially as we’ve still to play them again.
“We just need to keep it tight, but with just 11 games there is very little time left now.
“It’s got to the point where these chances will be few and far between. We need to start capitalising on them and keep ourselves as close as we can.
“We’ve always been careful to take it one game at a time. We just want to get the three points whenever we can.
“It’s a tough run-in. You saw from Celtic last Friday against Hamilton that it’s a tough run-in. Football is a funny game and things happen.
“We don’t even need them to lose, just draw and drop points, lose two points as we did against S Johnstone.
“It could give us a chance to get closer and then, as long as we can keep them close enough, we still have to face them again and that then turns into a massive game.
“You want to look ahead, look at the 11 games and see how you can deal with that.
“But when you start looking too far ahead, you start tripping yourself up.
“We leave it to the fans and the media and we just need to concentrate on getting three points from the next game.
“Our focus is now Wednesday and trying to get three points.
“As long as we keep doing that and keep the pressure on, Celtic will either answer or they won’t.”
In fact, he sort of talks himself out if winning the league the more he carries on.
In the league below, where fallen giants Hibernian and new kids on the block Second Rangers are battling it out for a chance to play with the big boys next season, it appears that Alan Stubbs has taken his eye off the ball for a moment , and now the route seems clear for Mark Warburton’s Wonders to increase the all round quality of Scottish football by joining the top flight.
Stubbs can now join that long list of managers who would do much better at Celtic, despite never actually having done anything anywhere else.
Speaking of which, Neil Lennon has had regret’s about walking out on Celtic, and would love to come back on day.
No problem with that, as our tarrier carrier goes past Bolton and he’s more than welcome to join us for a game , as long as he pays his fare like everyone else.
But thats as far as it goes. His time has come and gone.
For him to return, if we go along with the idea he left last time and wasn’t co-erced, would allow the board to be vindicated in their downsizing policy, and mean that things would get worse, and not better.
Lennon knows, and Lawwell knows, he ain’t coming back….
But it helps the media to pile pressure on Deila, who by now must be wishing he’d never heard of Celtic . Scotland or Peter Lawwell.
When he closes his eyes at night, he can probably still see the headlines discussing his successor. Whilst he has made one or two mistakes, its still astonishing that the Celtic support, who are a little more savvy than most, have not quite seen that even though the football isn’t great, the press have been on his back from day one, and he has had little or no support from within the club either.
With the clubs PR non existent, Deila finds he has to deal with reporters hell bent on tripping him up and and constantly putting him on the defensive, and there is nowhere left for him to turn for support.
The fans have it in for him, the players appear to be reading the papers and waiting for the axe to fall, whilst keeping their own heads down out of the way, and the board have seemingly no intention of publicly backing him.
You couldn’t blame him if he is thinking “fuck this”
Lets hope he’s not a vindictive sort of chap who decides to play the under 16s for the rest of the season.
Or put anthrax in the water barrel.
So for as long as he is here, can we get behind him ?
If we don’t win the league, then we can have a moan, and maybe look to support the next man.
But for now, he’s the manager.
Heres a wee caption competition to try to cheer you up a bit…
What he isn’t saying is this, a rant which is possibly one of the best ever by a former Celt..
Izzy, Rogic and Forrest, the three have all missed a large chunk of there current contract through injury, and what are they looking for now…………a new improved one, don’t let the door hit you on your fat arses on the way out lads.
Don’t think its a good idea to sack people when they get injured.
Don’t think I mentioned anywhere about sacking people. They should however no be offered improved terms.
That’s called cutting your nose off to spite your face.
Very bright, so they walk away for next to nothing.
so, are you saying we should give them a new improved deal in the hope that some other club is daft enough to spen money on them. You’re not very bright are you.
Really. Both are young international players and you would let them leave for a pittance. As I said, very bright.
GC,
Would you not rather Forrest and Rogic had years to run on their contract, ensuring that Celtic would receive a decent transfer fee if we decided to sell?
Ralph,that’s big Derk okay then.
The Tories on the board think otherwise.
Personally ah don’t think its a good idea ti sack the manager 10 games away from the end of the league and a cup still ti play for. Ah think the general consensus is Delia is dead man walking, so let grasp that for a minute, digest it, put aside the ‘Delia out’ campaign and let him get us ere the finish line then – and only then- can the search for a new manager be highlighted.
HAIL HAIL N aw that !!
Bondibrian,
I think the club would be taking a risk doing that…..keeping Deila until the end of the season I mean.
It’s twsit or stick Monti. You know ma position.
One of the things we’ve consistently been poor at is building and improving from a position of strength. Yes, the board has a lot to answer for but the truth is with the players we have we should be putting in much better performances than we are. We should make a change at the end of the season whether we win the league or not cause we’re not moving in the right direction and it’s only going to get harder.
It’s all very well winning the league but if we’re not actually playing well, and able to jump to the next level (or even handle 3 domestic competitions at the same time) then why carry on down this road? Apart from 4 months at the start of 2015 we have consistently been poor and Ronny isn’t showing any signs that he knows how to improve us. 4-2-3-1- still, I mean come on.
An extra day for us to endure a manager who doesn’t know what he’s doing. Before you all start, no, we don’t have a right to win every match but but we do have right to expect our manager to know how to manage and to expect our players to give 100% every time they pull on the hoops (or even the garish high viz version). Right now we are getting neither.
Mornin’
First up..
Players don’t accept their new “offers” and want to leave ?
Let them.
Its been a long time since I worried about players on £10k pw..not being offered £15k pw.
If they can get their money elsewhere…then what’s the problem ?
Most people..in all walks of life…will move jobs for more money.
The days are long gone when most players want to play for the Club and the jersey..
I really cant be arsed worrying about it.
What I can be arsed worrying about is..
We could fail to win the League this year if we keep going the way we are…despite Mark Reynolds’ pessimism.
I was at Hamilton on Friday..and we were shite…even allowing for the 10 men scenario.
Things need to drastically improve…soon.!!
Sorry Mikeb,Not following your train of thought,allow your best players to go,but moan about the shite on view at Hamilton? I only watched it on the Telly but you are correct it was shite.Are you blaming the players, i would to but the Management team according to some well somehow they are excused blame.Things wont alter until they are booted out the door ASAP. Then watch play and tactics improve and only then will the support come back and btw it will have fuck all to do with Sevco.
Hi Mike,
First up…ah wisnae “moanin'”..ah wis stating a fact..which you agreed with.
Second..
The two players mentioned are not what I would class as our best players..Rogic.admittedly..could be..but he’s no…and we’re no exactly short of mid-fielders.
and as for Forrest,well you’re havin’a laugh wi’ that surely ?
He is a total waste of a jersey IMO and canny go quick enough.
The real point I was trying to make was…
The Club has proved that with..Wanyama..Ki..Hooper..Van Dyck…Ledley…Mathews..etc; value for money is paramount as far as the Board is concerned..and if these two are asking too much in wages…then they’re off.
I’ve just got used to it.
Oh and you maybe don’t read my posts..but for the record..and I’ve been saying it for months..
RD and his staff are pulling us down..and they need to go.
I totally agree with you on this..and your Sevco comment.
Fuck them.
Cheers MIKEB, Must be me with my moanin face on,looking for the same from everyone else.
I do read your posts and agree with most of them so apologies if you thought i was having a go, so keep them coming.
H.H.
No worries Mike…I don’t mind people havin’ a go as long as its civilised and sensible.
No need to apologise mate.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion..
Its when halfwits reduce it to personal insults and nonsense I get pissed off.
I,like you, am only interested in our Club being all it can be…but..sorry to say..we’re way short of that just now.
Keep the Faith ‘though..
HH
Will do MIKEB,cheers mate.H.H.
Ralph mate I will get behind the team on Wednesday by being there by applauding and by refraining to shout what the evidence of my own eyes is telling me that this is shite and he couldn’t organise a ménage
” Deila, who by now must be wishing he’d never heard of Celtic . Scotland or Peter Lawwell.”
Ralph I ALSO WISH THE SAME THING. We were ahead against Hamilton and he cannot structure a team to defend a lead against a team who consistently fail to score goals. He is unable to make the decision to appoint a penalty taker practice taking hem until we become reasonably proficient at taking them! The Griff has scored 4 pens out of 9 and is our number 1 designated penalty taker really? honestly?
The manager comes out after a game in which the opposition have committed some horrendous assaults on our players and decides to publicly throw the center-half under a bus by agreeing with the ref after defending other players time and time again. The fans don’t have it in for him as somebody said on here at the weekend we just want our team back. Enough is enough ffs
cannot believe that we would let rogic go, for me he is a quality player who has massive potential, if he can keep fit, and we should do all we can to keep him there, with regards to jamsie and izzy, jamsie has had the chance, and due to whatever reason has not taken it, he moves on with my best regards, izzy should stay, a good replacement for KT and a capable player who has been a wee bit of a scapegoat this year.
Ronnie, lives in dreamland, that will end shortly
please god
mryhill 100% bang on mate, could not have put it better myself
It seems that the majority are now in a agreement, the blind shall now see so to speak. We will win the league this year, that’s got more to do with Aberdeen being bottle merchants than our very own football sensei.
Wish I had never heard of Deila. The man has took all the pleasure out of following Celtic. We are totally shite to watch. Lawell will continue to collect his EPL wage whilst downsizing with what appears to be Ronnie’s support. gtf the lot of you! Give us our club back! Maybe we need a major catastrophe to happen to get our club back?
John been saying it now for a while, losing to sevco in the cup
John,
It’s time for a revolution!
I see the fantasyland clowns are out in force today.
Aye the club should just throw money at inconsistent or repeatedly injured players. Reward them for pish poor performances and months spent in the treatment room.
If Rogic & Forrest think they can do better elsewhere then bye-bye.
Izzy has earned the right to do things his own way. Been a model pro for the club and a great ambassador. Never seen him in the paper getting accused of flashing his willy or drink driving.
Bgbhoy that is exactly the sort of disaster Ronnie has to be dismissed to avoid there would be no living with them for years if Ronnie managed to “lead” us to defeat against them. That possibility is why he must go now.
plum,
fantasyland clowns, don’t think so, Rogic has not had the chance to really prove himself, as I said excellent strong gifted player in there who is a model pro, just like izzy, been unlucky with injuries, should get chance, if he chooses not to take it his loss but people expressing there opinion that maybe is different from yours, do not deserve your cheap shots
Rogic has played less than 50 games in over 3 years!
What has he done to deserve improved terms? 15 decent to half decent performances this season. I rate him but I’m not so blinkered by hatred of Lawwell and/or Ronnie that I would resort to blaming them for players having their heads turned by ridiculous terms down in England.
The club spends what it earns and no more, if you think they should be chasing rainbows for immediate success then you don’t have the best interests of Celtic at heart; only your own obsessions.
So DB not knowing how to make a ‘last ditch’ tackle is the managers fault, DB should have slid past the man and ball and scooped it away with his ‘left’ foot.
It’s the managers fault that on that surface SB & SJ ‘first touch’ and range of passing was nowhere near the level required. They should be dominating the midfield.
So it’s the managers fault LG ‘missed’ another penalty and GMS didn’t have the composure when through one on one with their goalie.
When are the players going to stand up and take the responsibility of their own performances that have not been anywhere near the level required.
Lets just blame the manager, it’s simpler that way.
If downsizing means we have more Celtic supporting Bhoys like KT coming through, all the better I say. Only my opinion. HH
And it’s also the managers fault that a player who has missed 50% of his penalties is allowed to continue to do so
yes players have under performed but its all season we are talking about.
if its the odd game or the odd player then yes its the players fault but when its the whole team and for the whole season then the blame for that lies with 1 man and that is our manager
Look at Chelsea. Couldn’t string 2 passes together under Mourinho and as soon as he leaves they improve and go something like 14 or 15 domestic games unbeaten. Players take some of the blame but if they aren’t being set up in a way that plays to their strengths, and aren’t given instructions that they have the ability to follow then it’s all for nothing.
the fact that we are in a position that we might not win the league tells its own story. if aberdeen had any bottle they would be top of the league right now.
this season has gone from bad to worse…..the team is a shambles.
i backed Ronny and have given him time as his ideas are great but his management skills are not and the team is in freefall.
we cant defend simple as that, how many goals do we lose at corners ?
we are predictable and teams know how to play us now.
ronny keeps playing players out of position which in turn affects their confidence. we have Patrick Roberts on loan who is top quality yet he dosent play him.
no im sorry but Ronny your time is up….with the players we have we should have had the league all but one.
we cant continue with him in charge, we need change, not now but at the end of this season.
thanks for your efforts Ronny you tried your best but the job has got to you and its time you move on
ewanbhoy, okay, “we need change” but in all honesty do yi think its wise ti papp the manager this week, the morn?? Ah think we’ll win the league, the cup: who knows?
Ah too backed RD up until a few weeks ago, do ah want ti see him in charge next season: naw. Do ah want him gone afore the end of the season: naw and its no cos am thinking of him its cos a think it would be a massive upheaval and one the dressing room may no be able to handle hence: no win the league. Keep RD til the end of the season then start a new search( if its no started already )
Ah appreciate yer point of view.
Bondi,
It’s quite common for a squad to get a massive lift when a struggling manager exits the building, that’s my thinking on it anyway, I think there is a lot of quality in this Celtic squad, but it needs augmented with a higher calibre of player.
I believe if Deila was sacked tomorrow, we would beat Dundee 5-0 on Wednesday, as it stands we will struggle to win.
It’s the managers fault If our players are making the same errors over and over again
Yeah, off course RD has had issues as Ralph quite rightly points out.
He was part of a strategy that was to ‘downsize’ or ‘modernise’ or ‘streamline’ or use that great big training ground to develop players rather than us paying favoured agents to send us VHS (I don’t think we will have upgraded to a DVD player) of players that are basically damaged goods.
In part that strategy is right and the only one we have left. Yeah, it can be tweaked here and there but overall it’s faltering because of poor decision making on and off the park.
The Board can save face by replacing the man they appointed and getting the next appointment right – do we really think that our board are that wet behind the ears that they will let sevco’s promotion be the narrative of the summer? – and RD could get it right by looking as if he can mould and develop a team that isnt wet or boring to watch.
Off course, I will support RD on Wednesday night and until the end of the season. I don’t believe that he will be there next season, I don’t go to any game now expecting a decent performance but I want us to win the league and cup.
But to say that my opinions have been formed by the SMSM and not what I have watched this season – I actually thought at this point last year we had backed a winner – is just plain wrong.
The Rogic story is a non story. He’s just back from injury and Allan, Christie and Roberts are flavour of the month. That will change.
It will be an interesting attendance on Wednesday night and also on Sunday. A continual eye opener for the board. That’s what will make the decision on the future.
Still top of the league by 6 points.
This is a results business, Ronny is ‘doing the business’
We whined about MON’S teams winning by 5-6 goals, we whined when the team aged and stopped winning, we whined at Gordon’s team, we whined at Lenny’s team, listen to us now?
Some ‘support’ right enough, imagine we were 6 points behind ffs?
That’s why RD isn’t already gone. The club knows to would have been folly to sack a manager who is basically winning and meeting his key objective. Failing his other key objective – Europe – is sackable but will still paint the club in a bad light.
Many other clubs would have pulled the trigger and it’s to Celtic’s credit that they haven’t bowed to the fickle whims of some but at the end of the day the question that needs answered is:
“Do they think RD will build a team to compete in Europe, win the league and fill the park?”.
If that answer is no then the results just now won’t matter in the summer.
With respect Bawsman, that’s a load of “baws” Ronnie is far from doing the business. He is lost in this job. It is far too big for him. He looks scared on the touchline, his press conferences are becoming embarrassing and the players have sussed his limitations. We are a shambles on the pitch, woeful to watch and easily picked off at the back. Only Griffiths’ goals have us where we are in what is a really really poor league. Let s not even start about Europe….
” Ronny is doing the business “?
Did I just read that correctly?
Seriously bud, is that your argument, 6 points clear, we should be 16 or 26 points clear…. a budget far above anyone else in the league but just 6 points in it and wer playing utter dross fitba… i hope if he stays he turns out the new fergie but somehow i just dont see it… another shambles from the man again at he wknd, condemned his own player then back tracked the day… its getting embarrassing.
Ayrcelt you are wasting your breath it seems no matter what dross we play Ronnie is exempt from criticism for some people it’s fucking unbelievable
plum,
I have no hatred for either peter lawell or Ronnie delia, that’s jut nonsense on your part, indeed I respect both of them but that does not mean that, I back them blindly or cannot disagree with them, where does it say in my post that I blame them for having there heads turned?? again just nonsense on your part, i have followed celtic for 40 years, season ticket holder, shareholder, so immediate success, chasing rainbows?, don’t have celtic at heart??
you spoke about clowns earlier on, says more about you than me
I’m no interested in credentials, only facts and worthwhile opinions.
You replied to me, originally, as though I had personally aimed insults at you. I deal in blunt truth, you don’t like it then don’t respond to me.
At no point did I say YOU hated Lawwell or Deila. At no point did I say YOU were a clown. Until now, shut it ya clownshoe.
More personal insults is the Order of the day plum
The difference between a clown and you PLUM is that clowns are funny,you on the other hand are deffo. not funny,no you are an CAPITAL A for ARSE.
Plum,
If you can’t be decent or respectful to fellow Tims….then fuck off!
You are disrespectful to every single day to a man who has personally done you no wrong Monti.
Take your own advice ya fucking wank.
Oh dear!
That cannot be acceptable 🙂
Just like your face in public places.
WWOOOOOOOO,havent changed my opinion about you Soorplume, you are still an ARSE.Thats the only language your type understand.Your and only your opinion is all that matters everyone else opinions dont count,so slip off up yer Hole,thats where you belong.
Bye Bye.
mike… what a whacko.
Andy, some folk like to stir things up it brightens there day,playing there wee games sad really.
Torrance,
Ignore him, he is probably 5’2 and struggled all his life with people looking down at him during social conversation 🙂
Wee man syndrome!
The downsizing continues, so the news that Rogic is stalling on a new contract is hardly surprising.
Here’s the thing though, do we need a three person management team, with 6/7 Norwegians as back up, all I may add coming you assume from the FITBA Budget.
My choices would be:
Manager plus Assistant.
Trainer plus Medic, em what else do we need, Ah Yes a Director of FITBA, an ex player/Manager who can tell what a footballer looks like. Certainly not a Chief Executive Office who kens Fuck all about Football players having a say as to who we bring in, just an admin Manager on a salary of say £100K pa.
Alternatively we sell all our players, mothball the Stadium, Lennoxtown and every other fucking place and just sell Fitba kits and take donations to Celtic FC ( in lieu of season tickets).
That will work and we will make money for the Board for doing Fuck All.
Great article Ralph, and great comments today too.
I have several issues with Friday – I accept we wont always win, but they way we started to game was not urgent enough.- we re supposed to be going for a league title, but it was like a testimonial the pace we played at throughout the first half, I think our penalty was our first shot on target.
Boyata was a tricky one, some refs would not have sent him off, but with the ref being who he was, the red card was out of his pocket quicker than a Chris Graham statement can be discredited. The problem was caused by Boyata’s own lack of concentration and poor positioning that saw him leave the guy just about onside and Boyata caught on the wrong side. He’s been here now for well over half a season and is no better now then when he started and was “rusty” due to not having played many games – we can see now why he was not being selected I think.
GMS really should have scored, he never looked likely though, it was nailed on he would sh*te it and smack it straight at the goalie.
But we didn’t do enough to win, and while I know we want a challenging league etc to find ourselves in a very much live title race with only 11 games left, while being out of Europe with no wins by November removing any excuse wrt extra fixtures is I think pretty damning of our efforts this season.
I can’t really muster a single argument for retaining Ronnie’s services tbh, and I think you are being a little generous when admitting Ronnie has made “a couple” of mistakes, he has consistently failed to motivate a team to go out and perform and is weekly lowering our expectations of what acceptable Celtic performances and results are.
Yes many factors are working against him, we are clearly downsizing and only want to buy no.10 type attacking midfielders, Brown is clearly on the decline, perhaps permanently, but something has to give and soon, we are sleepwalking now, and if Aberdeen grow a pair really have every chance to go on and win the league. HH
Elcormaco, good post,the only thing i disagree with you is that the Hamilton player Was offside,if you watch Boyata looks at the linesman,has his hand up,so he was clearly playing him offside,he got nothing and then had to turn and race back,when he tackles you can see he deffo touches the ball.
As for Rogic, good feet, decent shot, no pace or change of pace, really poor stamina and poor injury record (though getting better) and so will never be a top level player. A good player yes, but not a legend in the making.. if he wants to go and we have approx 143 players who can play in his role, let him go imho
Elcormaco,
I disagree with you about Tom Rogic,the guy was excellent over a number of games earlier this season, he can strike a ball better than most in his position, maybe only Commons better in the 10.
I don’t think it’s necessary for everyone in this position to be lightning quick.
Also, would it not make sense to get Forrest and Rogic on new long term contracts? If at any point in the future bids came in, they would be well under contract and the club woukd receive decent money for them.
I don’t think financially, Celtic are in a place where we can afford to lose the likes of Forrest and Rogic for next to nothing. HH
Mike, it was marginal, I may be wrong, but he looked just on to me, but the replay also shows Boyata slow to react / anticipate the danger, think we can both agree about that
Monti – the risk of signign guys like Rogic and Forrest back on on better deals is also there – if no other clubs do want them, and frankly why would they, then we are lfet with palyers who currently cant get in the team for another 4 years.
And youre right, its not essential to be lightning quick, but a good change of pace is important, to brign an opponent in close and just elude him by deft chngge of speed, and in my view Rogic is poor in this, but yes he has many good attributes to his game
Elcormaco, you are correct it was marginal,but he did run back to try to get onside and yes Boyata is slow and often caught out in the wrong position.
Thing is for me Rogic and Forest are still international players,rated highly by there own associations,how far do we downsize.
Back to Boyata,you would think that he could be coached to cut out these errors,but if the talents not there?
He just joins a list of player soon to be looking for a new club.
Ralph,
Deila is two thirds of the way through his second season at the club, our performances abroad and at home in Europe have been embarrassing, domestically we are regularly dropping points to journeymen sides like, Kilmarnock, Hamilton and Motherwell, only a few weeks ago we had to wait until injury time to beat the mighty Partick Thistle?
Show me where the progression is?
Show me where the consistent performances are?
Where is the high tempo passing game?
Deila asked us to ” judge me in Europe ” Well we will then Ronny, you’re results and performances are abysmal, 3 attempts at CL qualifiers ended in embarrasment, a Europa league campaign failed to deliver a single win, you have been judged, you are shite.
Ralph, I’ll say again, look at domestic results this season, very, very poor!
He accepted the Job, he is not performing in the job, there is no signs that the A game is coming, it is a fucking joke!
DEILA OUT!
Monti, Europe is gone. Finished. History. Delia will be gone also. Lets concentrate on getting ere the finish line. Win the league, pick up the cup. Dust our selfs doon, regroup and start again next season wi a new manager at the helm…and backroom staff.
Fitbaw, eh !!
here is the real big issue, next season sevco will be playing in our league and even though they are miles behind us, the fact that we cant defend means there is a good chance they could beat us in a game.
if we get a manager who knows how to set a team up and be compact at the back then there is no way they will beat us but if Ronny is stll in charge then i would be nervous about playing them.
we have some really good players but they are being played out of position and we are wide open at the back.
we cant get a big name manager but one man who has experience and knows the scottish game inside out and who plays free flowing football is yogi hughes at ICT……a gamble maybe but i would be happy to give him a shot…..he has passion and fire and desire and the way his team plays is similar to the way we play but better…..his team can pass and play good football, they just dont have the quality up front to hurt teams….we have that quality, and yogi has always spoken well of us and is an ex player….i think he could be the man
ewanbhoy,
You said ” we can’t get a big name manager ”
Why not?
John Hughes? Not for me, I like the big man and he always speaks well about Celtic, but we need to be aiming higher than that, surely!
i would like a big name manager but our board wont pay for that sadly
Gus
Guss Hiddink ?
I would be happy with John Hughes as manager, he Got Falkirk promoted, got them to the Scottish Cup final, achieved their highest back to back laegue positions since the war and took them into Europe for the first time. At ICT he acheived their highest ever league finish, also took them into Europe for the first time and has been in two cup finals, one more than Deila, despite only being there six months longer than Deila has. While he didn’t do well at Hibs, Livi and down south, he was only at them for short spells and he has done well with little resources at Falkirk and ICT.
Doc,
We need a manager who knows how to get the job done in Europe!
He has more European managerial experience than O’Neill or Strachan had when they joined. I would like someone like Moyes or Rodgers but I don’t see that happening with the current board in place.
as for Stubbs…..no way, not enough experiance plus hibs cant win the big games so i think he would be a tony mowbray disaster
Agreed!
Ha ha fuck me man. So Celtic are appealing boyatas red card. This is after out great manager said it was the right call. What a fucking disaster this man really is.
Bbbhoy, Tell me you are kidding,what a feckin dick.
Bgbhoy,
I would laugh but you couldn’t make that up mate!
“Man changes opinion shocker”
You lot will never be happy. At least, unlike you, he’s man enough to admit when he’s made a mistake. BG & Monti are like a pair of children on a playground crying because the janny took the school’s ball away.
Plum,
Nobody would take my ba’ away son!
Bgbhoy,
Plum is at it again and called us a “pair of children”? Lol.
I have no idea what he is on about.
Anyway, what are you doing after Ballamory?fancy bringing your Pokemon cards round to mine a bit later and we could do swapsies?
Mum said you can stat for tea, it’s alphabet shapes and fries, followed by ice cream and Jelly 🙂
Andybhoy can come too, but he has to bring his Panini sticker album and cards…I have a few shiny’s to swap.
Mum, can Andy stay for tea as well? Please, please, please:)
Monti I can’t mate I’ve got scouts tonight. Mum says that I’m free tomorrow and Friday. Dad says he has a spare ticket for the game on Wednesday for you because none of his friends will go because the bad man ronnydeila
Plum maybe instead of having to do the “man enough ” thing he shouldn’t have said anything in the first place.
Now please feel free to respond but try and keep it civil as you are being spoken to civilly and try not to drag the conversation down to the level of insults and name-calling. Lets keep it at the level we would face to face.
Maryhillbhoy,
” face to face “?
Are you 5’2 as well? 🙂
well said Maryhill.
He came out after the game and said he watched it back and had no issues. so what hoep for any appeal when he has alrady gone on record as agreeing. What for teh morale of the clearly struggling Boyata or the players belief this guy is the leader to take us forward?
Love you to try and take the ball off me plum
The thing is,we play Dundee on Wednesday,(Monti at parkhead)so makes sense to appeal now,especially if Mulgrew is feelin his groin,BOAK makes you sick the thought of that yin.
Mike,
Thanks for the location mate 🙂
HE.HE. Your welcome Monty pal,that Andy is a fly yin though, trying to confuse ma friend,must be getting his MOJO back.
Scoosh71
Sorry for delayed response to your article which seemed to address issues I was raising was working.
I do not blame Ronnie for the missed penalty I BLAME HIM FOR THE FACT THAT OUR PENALTY TAKER SCORES LESS THAN 50% OF HIS PENS AND HASN’T BEEN REPLACED OR HIS TECHNIQUE IMPROVED. (Btw the capitals were a typo sorry)
I also didn’t blame him for the penalty but for his reaction to the decision to award it and his failure to raise the issue of Hamilton’s tackling.
You point out that SJ range of passing and first touch wasn’t good enough on Friday and I agree that that is not Ronnie’s fault, the fact that he is picked and completes almost every 90 minutes is.
There is very little difference from the crowds today and Neil Lennons last six months.
On Lennys last games in February we got beat by Morton on a freezing cold night with about 9000 fans if we were lucky,we also got beat in the cup by the sheep that year the same month and attendances went right down until the end of the season.The idea that we have lost 30,000 fans since Ronny took over is a nonsense.
we got beat in september by morton
Monti
I agree we can aim higher than big Yogi who it has to be said would be a vast improvement on Ronnie, I also agree not Stubbs until he proves he can coach a team that can win big games.
Hairymill.I canny get the thought of big Yogi running around the pitch starkers,almost as bad as Ronny with his pants up his erchie after a game.WHY DI THEY DO THAT.
PS 5″2? only round the middle Monti mate 🙂
🙂
HA.HA.maryhillbhoy,with all they level streets you will need to go out walkies.ASAP.3 miles a day for you bhoy.
Dermot Desmond needs to put up..or fuck off.
We claim to be a world club…well lets start acting like one.
Get your money out DD and appoint a manager who has a decent track record at a high level…and fuck the cost.
Our Club is disappearing into a Black Hole and it needs action taken now.
Oh and before anyone asks me who I’d appoint…
I’m not Dermot Desmond…that’s what he’s in post for…
I’m just the mug that helps pay RD’s wages.
Mike Bhoyle,
Fuckin A Dude!
That’s what I’m talking about my man HH
Cheers Monti…
HH
Greetings from sunny Malaga, Spain.
I have watched a bit of both Primera League and Secunda Division while here. The good or bad news, depending on your disposition, is that there are refs just as biased or poor in Spain. In the Barca vs Seville game, Barca were denied two clear penalties. Niggly fouls were also missed. The same old that we experience.
In the Secundo division there are many players who can play telling passes who would not cost a lot. There are even players in La Liga who could help us and are affordable.
Do we scout these teams and leagues? There is little sign of it.
Back to Canada tomorrow.
Rebus
Rebus, thank god you are ok,I read that a 70year old had collapsed inside the Flying Duck pub in Glesgow last week while sketching nude pictures of young ladies and immediately thought it was you.
Safe journey home.
safe flight!
I remember a time when Celtic were off form and not playing at their best we would be sitting 2nd 3rd even 4th in a table praying for the Season to end.
Now my team sits on top of the league with a wee bit of breathing space whilst just getting by performance and results wise and it’s apparently the end of the World.
Just how and when did this change of perspective actually happen?
Just saying I find the whole thing a wee bit perplexing in my older age.
Anyhow what will be will be folks and whatever happens the problems will still exist at Celtic at Board level.
That’s the saddest bit for me because Manager and players come and go nothing is without a time frame in Football.
Are you happy to go into the ucl qualifiers with Ronny Deila in charge of Celtic. Yes or no
Do you find our managers public u turns on things such as James Forrests ability and contrat scenario and boyatas red card normal behaviour. Yes or no
Do you think that since Ronny deila took over from Neil Lennon we have improved as a team. Yes or no
Why do you think that there are a minimum of 15k fan missing each week from when we had Neil Lennon in charge??
Point yes provided we can bring in som proven quality.
Without which our chances are limited anyway regardless who’s in charge.
Point 2 I have no issue with his stance on either.
Forrest is overrated by many and Boyata seems to be ignoring his instructions.
Whether he should publicly state his opinions when asked about these things is down to him.
He’s honest perhaps too honest at times.
I don’t mind honesty personally regardless of whether I agree with what’s been said or not.
Point 3
No I don’t but then since we have lost arguably our 3 best players since he left Forster Van Dijk and Denaayer and had 3 of the best decline since (Brown Lustig and Commons) I would not have expected us to improve.
That would be stupid.
Deila has implemented a new approach,changed the diet etc in an attempt to make us more competitive.
This was always going to take time and was never going to be plain sailing.
Point 4
Attendances have been on the slide for years the implosion of deadco,the Economy both here and in Ireland,the downsizing,the lack of competition have all had a part to play in this.
We have had much worse periods of attendance than this under better Managers than Lennon with better players on show too.
Under McNeil in the 80-81 Season we had Aitken McGrain Burns McStay McCleod Nicholas etc we had Real Madrid in Europe and our season average was just over 20,000 playing 4-4-2 and the fabled “Celtic Way”.
We could be entering another natural dip as Football tends to do?
The emergence of the Deaddy Bears will have a positive effect in this respect next season I believe.
i dont disagree with you regarding sevco emergence, but only for games v them
find it astonishing you would back deila in the new season for ucl, he has had 3 attempts already, does not deserve a 4th… all he had to do was beat maribor for gods sakes, and he made an arse of it
and his defence you speak of will still not be settled come the new season, the man time is up, and i think 90% of the fans know this
wednesday;s attendance will be very revealing… we have several thousand season book holders not attending pre paid games now charlie, that has nothing to do with economics
Since the Bunnet takeover Attendances have reached record highs at Celtic in the modern era.
We may well be looking at a levelling out period under way again?
I think the major shareholders should look to sell up and give us all a chance to ignite a new optimism at Celtic.
Fan ownership is the only solution now they have exhausted all other methods now.
OI would gladly pay my share so those in attendance got to see the best we could afford to offer.
I include you in that too regardless of opinions bud.
So would plenty others out there I believe.
Mibees one day that will come…. 😉
i dont think any fan wants anything else! but i think we know that its not going to happen.. IF the rumours are true and desmond or obrien where to fund MON coming back then we would be close to a sell out every week
fans are sick of underwhelming managerial appointments, and for the last 1-6 years have been gradually voting with there feet.. mowbray, lennon and deila……. only 1 man there that has achieved anything worth shouting about, and even he wasnt good enough if you ask me, from a bevy culture and who one player described “the last 4 years have been like a stag do”
the ronny deila appointment was the correct styke of appointment. we needed a change in culture and the way we go about our business… but cmon, this experiment has failed, the fans have taken a major dislike to him, his football is boring and europe has been a disaster…. he is probably baring the brunt of anger directed at the club but he is still in way above his head now, his ramblings an u turns are testament to this?
Why find it astonishing? This rebuilding and transition was always going to be plagued with issues bud.
That’s why I have been more relaxed about the results than most.
Soon as we lost bothe Denaayer and Van Dijk it was obvious we would struggle early season.
The injuries that followed just magnified the problem still.
To go into early qualifiers as we are required to do now with this type of situation is not conducive to getting results.
We don’t have genuine quality now so when we lose arguably our best then we become very vulnerable in Europe.
I was not suprised we failed to reach the CL proper.
Disappointed? Abso fucking lutely bud but not suprised.
All the good work put in in the second half of last Season was undone by the above.
Those who deny or refuse to accept this was the case I’m afraid are naive to think otherwise.
Key men under performing has been Deilas biggest problem this Season not Systems,not man management or inexperience as some have suggested (putting it mildly btw)?
I agree it could be too late for him though I think if we win the double given how poorly some of our best have performed on and off this should entitle him to one last crack at it.
If we secure a double and he is sacked what message does that send out to any prospective replacement?
No double no job no double double no job?
Cant see many wanting to risk that demand myself.
Fan expectation ALWAYS exceeds Club expectation that’s just how it is in modern day football.
I don’t get it myself we are not a big fish any more in Europe we are an also ran way back in the chasing pack.
Sorry to be so negative just how I see it now.
Pay peanuts expect to get monkeys.
Bg I have replied bud yet again it has evaporated into the ether..
Fans are fickle bud you will seldom keep them all happy.
Though that night v Barca was different 😉
Charlie I’ve no issue not getting to the ucl groups or knockouts of Europa if we went out with a bit of fight. We can’t win every game in Europe but when we have been beaten 6or 7 times with the passionless displays were now used too and the mistakes not being learned from then the finger can only be pointed at one man and one man only.
@bG He has accepted his part in it as have several of the side.
Lustig Griffiths both put their hands up the rest just hid.
i know hes held his hands up, but thats because it was there for all to see, the same mistakes as his first campaign being repeated! there is no evidence to suggest things will improve
thats why i wont rid so much, because i feel there is no point keeping him as the same thing will continue to happen
Charlie Saiz,
The deady bears should have no fucking influence on how we carry out our business.
If we’re talking honesty here, the simple fact is the board have fucked up our programme, Downsizing because the Huns aren’t about was a massive error in judgement, we have lost two or three CL revenues during their demise, this was the time to put the foot down on the accelerator not slow down.
Yes we need a challenge, yes we need pushed, but that challenge doesn’t need to come from them.
Lawwell has gambled away £40-50m of CL income on his wee experiment, we can’t see our team in the CL, the club isn’t receiving recognition for it’s performances in Europe, this is fucking shameful…
Mike Bhoyle hit it on the head, those with the financial clout at the club, the two billionaires, should be investing heavily on the team, this will see the stadium packed to the rafters and the CL a reality once again.
Scottish football is shite and it is corrupt, the Champions league is the only show in town.
” Celtic should be in the Champions league every season ” – Roy Keane.
” Build a side for Europe and Scotland will take care of itself ” – Jock Stein.
Two billionaires at the club and the club isn’t flourishing?
It’s all about Europe, if you don’t believe me, believe Peter Lawwell..
” Celtic are a Champions league club ” – Peter Lawwell.
See if we don’t turn this while thing on it’s head and miss out on the CL in the summer again, better get used to 30,000 crowds and the fans would be quite fucking right! HH
plum,
just seen your response, hilarious, thanks for that insightful, well thought out post, as for worthwhile opinions you would not know one if it slapped you on the back of the head, petty name calling is not my gig mate, so wont rise to the bate but I just need to ask, what is a clownshoe, is that some kind of insult the kids in 1st year are going with these days???
don’t come back to me please, I will ask my nephews
Watched John Hughes against us recently. He was animated from the first minute to last(in the first half he didn;t need to be) Ronnie just did his thing of standing there letting it happen. I thought, do something, give the team and the fans some indication you care. Of course he didn’t move and the remnants of my support for him were ebbing away. Second half we gub them and still he maintains his stance whilst JH is going ballistic. Sometimes you’ve got to tell the players and trust(hope) they do it. They are professionals but it’s just ours are not as good technically or footballing intellectually than some we have had.
Rebus, I watched the game but didn’t think the ref had any hidden agenda like they obviously do here. That old one about the royalist club having to be better than the Catalan club doesn’t wash anymore, particularly with Athletico up there. Good point on targets,seen some players in the Championship that I’ve thought could do a job for us but they quite possibly woiuld be getting more there, have the outside chance of going up and then could look good because of the level they are playing at. Would we beat Norwich,? Sunderland ? Hull ?
Steve,
I agree on your comments re Deila’s inertia.
Not sure on the reasons for the ref missing the penalties in the Seville game, but they were penalties. You may be correct because he could have given a penalty to Sevilla as well…so may not bias!….just incompetence.
Rebus
Rebus, Barca are not an establishment club as they come from Catalonia. Having lived and worked in Spain they have frequently suffered from poor referring, they are also regarded as a Republican club from the Civil War era.
Real Madrid are the establishment club supported by Franco etc;
We could have a similar situation in this wee country.
Delilah is a farce, he should keephis mouth shut at media conferences.
Cartvale,
I know about the history of Spanish regions(countries?) I think that Barcelona understands the situation that we face because it is similar to their own.
I also know hat I am in Andulusia where Barca are not welcome. I have seen the resentment towards anyone wearing the Barca colours. We have indeed a similar situation in Scotland.
And Deila is a disaster, I agree. We have several good players who will become disaffected with the club if we do not change the management.
Rebus
At home (Monti?)Dundee Wednesday. For what it’s worth, the Sheep will drop points at Tannadice and may even lose. But I’m concerned about us. Our play is lacklustre and why have so many players dipped in form? Is it the training regime? Are they knackered? I thought being out of Europe would mean our bhoys would at least be fresher for the league. Why can’t they be motivated to win and win big? I think now it must be the fault of Deila the man manager. Does he have a plan, a vision? Can he inspire a team? For all that, here is the team I would put out. I’m not sure who is injured or eligible.
Gordon (is he still doubtful?)
Lustig (Janko at the ready)Sviatchenko/Mulgrew/Tierney
Brown/Bitton
Roberts/Allan/Christie
Griffiths
Roberts is the one man who might break down a stacked defence, yet why do we have fast wingbacks when nobody gets on the end of their crosses, and Tierney is crossing the ball really well. If I, as the village idiot think about these things, does Deila/Collins/Kennedy?
It will be hard-fought but 2-1 to the bhoys.
Hemmings is looking good for them. Dundee is much better than Hamilton and Hartley will have them well-organised.
I have had it quite honestly. The manager has to go because he had taken a good simple tactic and over complicated it asking his players to do what is wholly unnatural to them. Is it any wonder GMS has come out and said I have improved tactically? Of course he has to tell us that because it’s hard to see. 4231 is not at fault it’s the ridiculous way Ronny insists on it being played without a target man, and 2 massive 6ft 4 inch CDMs that have also played CD and Wing Back in their career. The players do not believe in the system and are so fucking confused we leak goals at one end and struggle to break down bus parking teams at the other because we cannot stretch the defense. Instead we compact 10 opposition players into the fucking box. All the while pushing our CBs out wide and expecting Scott Brown (short guy) and Nir Bitton (waif) to do the job of center backs against strikers who only are strikers. GTF Ronny. Have the CDMs cover the attacking full backs and only have the CBs push wide as the exception. Play with an A-symettric attacking line that can stretch defenses eg 1 winger and 1 inside forward. Finally Griff is our best striker play a strong #10 with a good touch, nice pass who can win headers against CDMs and can also dribble (like Rogic, Kazim or Fuck it try Shifty in there(look at videos of him @Dundee Utd and compare them to Rogic). The big target man leading the line has not worked in the Scottish game for you why keep signing them? FFS!
Uralias
Superb post incontrovertible!!!!!!
@maryhillbhoy, I have had that brewing for a while I was going to write a whole piece with diagrams, but I won’t have time before Wednesday.
I look forward to that when you have the time mate:-)
Uralius if you have NO mid-field you have no team/no defence you need look no further for our malaise,we are weak all over particularly so on the flanks this puts extra pressure on the middle which will eventually wilt,this happened on Friday night albeit we were down to 10 men they just kept pumping balls into the middle of our defence with the resulting goal.
Sorry John could you please elaborate, I suspect we are in agreement, but are wording it differently.
Of course walk about post. Probably just as well.
Devoy I’ve said this for a while , we seem to try constantly in Thames to get crosses in but Griffith’s is to wee and others don’t support him. Its so fucking frustrating watching it over and over again
And two holding midfielders in Scotland is a piss take . john Barnes tried this years ago
He played a 4-2-2-2
Something isn’t quite right.Is it?
Celtic 6 points clear still a cup to win.Playing in a league where our main rivals died,and the financial income from tv at an all time low.Where our game is beaten down and Celtic have to pay probably the most in policing and stewarding costs as most of the clubs in the English premiership.Yes something isn’t quite right.The board,the manager,the players,the fans,what is it that something isn’t quite right.
A question put to me by a person I just met today on a course im on in England.
Not a true Celtic fan,but who became one after his dad took him to watch the hoops in a testimonial against Bobby Charltons Man Utd.
I told him my dad had took me too,coincidences are great some times.He has had Celtic as his other team,he asked me if Man u were mine I said I don’t do other teams.
He then said you miss them too much,that’s what’s wrong,though you don’t want to admit it.
You need them to take your anger out,to drive your players on,to know that you need every victory, every point.To unite your cause against the enemy.That’s what it is Jimmy.
Something isn’t quite right!
Hail Hail
Tell you what isn’t right..
Gordon is blowing hot and cold this season.
Lustig is half the defender he was 3 year ago- Tierney is twice the defender he is now at 18 with ZERO International experience.
Ambrose is a liabilty
Boyata a work in progress
Izzy hasn’t had a good season in 4 years
Brown is getting past it now
Biton decent on and off
Johansen is having a poor season
Armstrong the same
Mackay Steven blowing hot and cold
Forrest great for 3 games injured for 33
Commons to slow
Mulgrew Injured all season too slow
Richards fuck knows
Cole seriously why is he at Celtic?
The most positive aspect about this season?
Griffiths Tierney Erik and the fact with all of the above we still have a League and Scottish Cup double on the cards.
We ned to invest and we need to celar the decks of those overpaid and under performing at the Club.
Clear the decks.
Charlie,
What can I say? That was a masterful post. It summarizes the day to day catastrophe that has been this season.
I cannot disagree with a word.
Rebus
” Ambrose is a liability “?? At last!!
Compared to Boyata though he is Puyol.
Yeah I thought there would be a catch….
Disagree though, I think Boyata is very raw, in some cases patience is required tho, I’d persevere with Boyata, but on the bench at best.
If we are dealing in the here and now Ambrose is a better defender than Boyata by a country mile Monti.
We have been forced to start either most of the season due to the CB situation had Jozo Erik and Mulgrew been fit I doubt either would have played as much.
Efe like Lustig and Izzy is not playing as well as he did when we signed him.
Thankfully we have younger replacements for all 3 coming into the side now.
Going to take time to adjust though no matter who Manages them.
Charlie Saiz,
We won’t be agreeing over Ambrose, he has cost the club in many games, he has had decent games as well to be fair, but I don’t trust him, he wouldn’t play for the club again if it were up to me.
Monti there are far far more liabilities in this team than Effe,you can begin with the whole raft of mid-fielders we use on a game by game basis,Effe is an internationalist from a “rated” team ask yourself why can,t he hack it in this backwater??could it be that they are organised/strong/quick and of some ability also he has capable players in front of him,none of applies at Celtic,I think most do not understand that if you have fcuk all as we have in the middle then you are going to struggle individually and as a unit in defence,Lustig now becomes the “bogeyman” his legs are gone he,s not the same,well if you are playing with no one in front of you either wide or mid then you are going to struggle,get in some proper players and the defence will cope.
Charlie said that’s a fair point mate but we should be getting more out of them but you know we will have to agree to disagree on that!
I don’t think some of our key men have all that left to give bhoys.
I think Brown has been working so hard for most of his senior career (averaging 13k a game at Hibs I gather) he has bunt himself out and now the injuries are beginning to hut more.
I see Broonie going into player Management at some point in the near future.
Lustig is not built for the wingback role he does not have the stamina to keep it going week in week out and I see him either being released or kept on as a makeshift CB.
I would get Fisher and Janko back fit and sharing that role with Wardrop as the back up.
We have Breslin on the verge of making the breakthrough he could well be a natural successor to Brown in 18 month or so but meantime we should be looking at a straight replacement so Brown can play less intensively see if we can re energise him for the duration of a Season and prolong his stay?
Bitton I think will be next to be sold so the DM postion needs sorting pronto.
I still maintain Ambrose can be of use in there even moreso than Mulgrew because Efe is far more energetic and mobile.
If Forrest is going then source a good winger and replace with better.
Deila is adament he prefers natural wide men but unfortunately either through lack of form or fitness neither Forrest or Mackay Steven have been much use so far this year so he that is Deila has been forced to play the likes of Armstrong and McGregor out there more than he would have wished.
Hence the push to sign Roberts on an extended loan.
He is at least trying fix this.
Roberts needs to get up to speed though coming off injury.
Seriously he’s been a hiding to nothing with the under performances and injuries so much juggling having to go on it’s a wonder we have maintained any sort of rhythm at all this season?
You can lead a horse to water bud but you cannot make it drink.
It’s a couple of donkey’s we have though, not so much horses…..
Yes I know charlie with two sitters and he also tried to make burley play defensive midfield, just like Delia seeing Allan as a left winger . is he having a laugh with these decisions. I have never known a more inept manager at Celtic. I could pick a better team.
Gordon
Tierney
Eric
Mulgrew
Lustig (for now)
Armstrong allan
Christie
GMs Griffith’s roberts
Just an example side but shows how easy it is for Ronny to change it and bring in younger players rather than persist with the same under performing ones
Celtic team Wednesday.
Gordon
Lustig right centre back
Eric. centre back
Mulgrew. left centre back
Armstrong right wing back
Tierney left wing back
Brown Christie Johansen
kazim Richards Griffiths.
Subs Ambrose Roberts Commons Allan Goalie.
Hail Hail
Hope to be home in time to go.
@ Charlie Saiz
I’ve a request mate. Can you get stats for goals conceded playing against 2 strikers?
Bondi,
I agree but I would honestly make the change today, the longer the Hamilton game went on the more convinced I was that we were going to lose, I was just waiting on it.
I remember a time when Celtic would go down to 10 men and fight, even look like the better team!
Ah don’t think its worth the risk Monti, too near the finish line ti get rid of the manager, assistant manger and…well what ever it is Kennedy does.
As ah say it twist or stick. Stick it is for me. But aye, big changes need ti sweep through the whole gig.
MON THE HOOPS !!
Bondi,
I see your thinking but we will have to agree to disagree!
Some nice team selections seems like people really like Christie unfortunately all I have seen of him are the cameos he has made for Celtic.I would rest Lustig and start Janko at right back. My team would be -playing 4-4-1-1
Bailly
Janko Erik, Charlie, KT
Commons(or Rogic) Allan, Armstrong , Roberts
Richards
Griffiths.
Right wing also .could be GMS. I am not a big believer in the inverted winger system but open to other ideas on the right. We shoould be starting the new guys if we can and give them a chance.Roberts looks really talented from the devel games he played (saw the highlights) Jo hansen and Bitton Gordon all need a rest both physically and mentally. Brown back after 3 months out still to get his fitness back I think. Boyata needs to concentrate. Cheers. RD is on his way out. He plays the full backs far to far away from the CBs and puts too much importance on the CBs (boyata ambrose) who can’t handle the pressure.
Why would you give any of the three better contracts? Forrest certainly doesn’t deserve a better deal if it’s based on merit, nor Izzie and Rogic hasn’t done enough to merit a better deal now, perhaps later. As to why Rogic hasn’t started past two games no one really knows that except the manager and Rogic. Perhaps Rogic is dragging his heels in training with his mind on a better deal.
I think managers are sometimes like fans, they hope things will improve quicker than they can, especially where individuals are concerned and sometimes they have to talk up a player but it doesn’t always work out. As a fan you have the luxury of being able to say it how you see it but as a manager you don’t have that luxury.
I would be happy for Izzy to go!
Its no coincidence that both forrest and rogic were removed from the team , its nothing to do with them not doing well in training. He has been told not to play them by master lawel and gave it the yes sir yes sir three bags full sir. Ronny must think we are all daft, rogic needs to win his place back. What rubbish again from him today
Absolutely!
Rogic was fast becoming a first pick when he was fit, Deila is full of shite!