Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

It’s hard not to engage in some of the online “debate” around the direction of Celtic and where we go next as a club. Some of it is extremely well thought out, logical, based on fact and analysis and presents hypothesis that are hard to argue with. ‘The manager needs replaced’. ‘The club needs a complete overhaul’. ‘Restructure of all things football related’ etc. There’s no doubt most of the points that are being aired are heartfelt and with what the individual perceives to be the best interests of the club he/she is invested in. What is becoming more excruciatingly obvious though, is that most of the online sentiment has long since passed objective and become a focused, frenzied attack on the current Celtic manager. In some cases it looks almost personal. Stepping back from it, you have to wonder what is driving this vitriol.

Before I start, this isn’t an impassioned defence or attempt at justification of this most shambolic of seasons in the past two decades, nor a defence of a management and coaching setup that looks to be at best lost and at worst totally dysfunctional. But simply an attempt at wondering where the fcuk the entire edifice cracked and when it started crumbling. Many are arguing it was in the showers at Hampden when we won the 3rd consecutive treble. Analysis would suggest it was a lot earlier than that.

I’d argue our club has been stale for over a decade now, ironically at a time when domestic dominance has led to a second 9IAR. Some argue the managed decline commenced when we hired Ronny Deila in June 2014, a man who hit the jackpot and came in to the main role when he’d interviewed for the number two role under Neil Lennon. A hardly stellar 50% win rate in domestic competitions partially masked a lack of tactical nous in European terms and an inability to manage a job the size of Celtic. By the mans’ own admission he was having sleepless nights towards the end of his tenure. However, the thoroughly likeable Deila arguably wouldn’t have been in the job had there been the natural cycle of turnover within the PLC and a natural turnover of footballing structure and personnel, along with ideas.

People talk of managed decline commencing with Deila’s appointment, some argue it even started when Lennon took over from Mowbray (interestingly making a lot of the same observations he’s making now on squad mentality etc). However a closer look at financial performance of the PLC would suggest Celtic simply hit a ceiling a decade ago and struggled to formulate a strategy that would actually see us participate in Europe and retain domestic dominance.

From a £61.72M turnover in 2010 (Europa League year) to a £64M turnover in 2014 (CL Season) to £72M turnover in year past (Europa League) . Even allowing for COVID impacts and inflation that’s nominal growth at best. £28.27M stadium revenues in 2014 to £36M 2019. Again, allowing for inflation it’s hardly stellar.

The board, and PLC under Peter Lawwell’s direction, perhaps spooked by both the power shift and financial risk profile of MON, appear to have taken a strategic position that both European and Domestic success were mutually exclusive. European participation was seen as the bonus territory and as such, financial prudence directed we wouldn’t bank on that level of participation, nor expend what was needed to get there. Seville was simply the outlier. The hangover financially far too painful. On reflection, the cycle of shifting from splurge to austerity and back again was simply a strategy to satisfy the masses. Feed them enough domestic cake, give them the odd ‘red pantie night’ in the CL, milk the tits off the ‘best fans in the world’ moniker and keep the show rolling. It appears we’ve never truly attempted to get back to a European context post MON. We never structurally nor ambitiously reached for the second gold star, no matter how unlikely the journey ever would be. The slow lane that MON warned of was repackaged as methadone for the masses. Thing is though, cake and methadone both make for enduring nausea eventually.

The financial analysis suggests that, as well as the PLC has performed, we either ceiling’d out, or took a more prudent view and risk averse path than was open to us. Echoing all those frustrations that we aired at the time. No one wanted a splurge to take us to the brink of going bust. Just some fcuking ambition. Stepping away from the herd and looking at this in a wider than COVID lens, it’s clear the PLC under Peter Lawwell adopted a conservative approach beyond that which can in retrospect be argued was appropriate. And the contradiction again stands similar to a decline while in the midst of domestic dominance; we’ve been ran extremely well as a business while going backwards in our core business. There’s a ton more analysis available here if you’re into that sort of carry on.

http://priceoffootball.com/tag/celtic/ There’s also plenty of “Us v Them” type analysis and charts in there to keep you thinking about what might have been. But all this leads me back to the crux of the note; popular delusions the madness of crowds.

It was a Scottish Journalist ironically, Charles Mackay, in the 1840’s who wrote of The Mississippi Scheme, The South-Sea Bubble, Tulipomania and others. Mackay wrote of how “whole communities suddenly fix their minds upon one object, and go mad in its pursuit”. It’s a cracking read and a cautionary tale of the hype of hysteria. You can read it here if you’re into that sort of thing: https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/24518

I think I’ve managed to detach myself from the hysteria somewhat. I rarely engage on twitter, I observe it and digest. I chat with other sane minded Celtic people to see how they’re feeling. And in my generation or grouping, there’s a sense of detachment that hasn’t been there since the Kelly’s and Whites. It’s not all Lawwell nor Desmond’s doing. Nor is it squarely the limitations of Neil Lennon and his management team, or a bunch of players who’s professional integrity can and should be very much questioned. It just is a real here and now sentiment.  Perhaps the best online example of where I feel Celtic as a club is was summarised by Roger Mitchell – yes, he of the former SPL brief from back in the day. Roger wrote on his twitter (@RPMComo):

”The problem for many of my generation is simple to articulate. The pedestal is too high! We actually believed in “more than just a club”. Each of us is different but many think this is really the parting of the ways. Really is Paradise Lost. It is for me.”

You can read the entire thread here: https://twitter.com/RPMComo/status/1356515626379075584

I find detaching from the madness provides sanity checks. So for what its worth, here’s my dozen sanity check points for today;

  1. We’re not as shite as people keep telling you. But we’re not very good either.
  2. We still have the highest level of resources available to any team in Scotland.
  3. Celtic will survive the pandemic intact, financially and structurally.
  4. European football is about to change utterly – Champions League participation from 2024 is likely to generate between €70M-€90M for a club of our size and domestic locale.
  5. We’re at the end of a natural cycle, epitomised by the winding down of arguably the second most influential captain we’ve had in 132 years of unbroken existence.
  6. The myth of having an underbelly of amazing talent was exposed in early January; the less we see of young players who haven’t even developed physically, the more we appear to believe we’ve a dozen Messi’s on the books all being neglected by the management team. We’re not good at developing players.
  7. We’ve just enjoyed a full decade of dominance, and there’s no reason to suggest we can’t go and do the same again with the right mix of hunger, drive, passion and an injection of modern thinking to push us on again.
  8. We’re about to build again and finally have new leadership blood in the PLC.
  9. We will most likely completely reshape our footballing operations to reflect new and modern thought and ideas
  10. Neil Lennon delivered a second 9IAR and a Quadruple Treble
  11. Neil Lennon is most likely not the man to leads us forward in a new, modern data driven direction.
  12. Neil Lennon is not working a ticket just to get a payoff. The man has more integrity than that.

And a wee bonus number 13:

  1. All you misplaced aggro and daft young turks, and older ones who should know better, personally attacking the man and his achievements – you can get right to fcuk.

Our implosion is painful and we’re all entitled to snipe, moan and have a go. It’s the joy of being in a club. However this “angry mob” pitchfork mentality is fcuking obscene. I sincerely hope I never have to sit beside any of the wee wanks currently orchestrating a campaign of hate against the current Celtic manager. I couldn’t stomach it. There’s a club right across the city founded in 2012 which behaves like that. Off ye fcuking go. You’ll fit right in. The behaviours are those of  ‘spectators, not fans’ – to borrow the immortal words of Marcelo Bielsa. If that’s how you feel, hand back your season book and fcuk right off and do something else with your time. Celtic will endure long past you, or indeed I.

This season has been done in for months now. There’s nothing to achieve in getting any more annoyed I feel. Whatever change will come will come in the next short while. In the meantime, rejoice in what we’ve achieved in near two decades of dominance. We’ll rebuild from this bigger and stronger, with or without the angsty ones. And we’ll be better for it.  Celtic will endure. Of that you can be certain. It has endured, unbroken since 1888, even when custodians ambition was as far removed from fans ambition as it is today.

‘You either win or you learn’ as the mantra goes. Ironically the less we win these days, the more I learn about my relationship with Celtic.

Here’s to hopefully a Scottish Cup, CL qualification and a new footballing dawn in the months ahead.

And to a third 9IAR in the 2020/2030’s. I wouldn’t bet against it.

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Mark
1 month ago

Great article

1 month ago
Reply to  Mark

Thanks Mark. It’s only one man’s opinion mind. Hopefully it can move the debate on a bit.

Joseph
1 month ago
Reply to  Monty Burns

The truth is the debate will only start to move on when Lennon is removed.

Bingo Master
1 month ago
Reply to  Monty Burns

To where?

Away from the board’s involvement in the lie that is Sevco?

Matthew Kennedy
1 month ago

Excellent analysis. Have been a season ticket holder for over 20 years and the personal abuse, from our own, that NL has had in the last few months is disgusting whether folk (naively in my opinion) think he is to blame for everything.

1 month ago

Thanks for the feedback Matthew.

auld tim
1 month ago

well said

Ralph Malph
1 month ago

Excellent stuff. I’m all cheered up now. A matter of perspective. Thats all.

Bingo Master
1 month ago
Reply to  Ralph Malph

Perspective!

The cornerstone of every good media diversion!

SteveNaive
1 month ago

Yes it is. Needed to be said and you’ve said it. Said it myself though, thanks.

Mike
1 month ago

Oh, there yeh are, taking time to come out the factory and to pontificate, as we all stand at the stone pillar waiting to be flagellated, don’t hold back, our backs are strong enough to take it. We are not like them, in that we are the entitled peepul, because that is just not true. We are angry, angry because after years of being shafted, lied to, led down the garden path, knowing that we are playing against the dishonesty inherent in Scottish football. From governing bodies and a board who have ‘selt the jersies,’ performed Houdini type extorsions, to keep the lying cheats still with its history, titles, trophies intact and perpetrating the lies of the same club. That is when the Celtic support started questioning what they were being fed. Its not that Lennon was initially appointed the manager, it was in the manner of his full time appointment, in the showers and without opening up the managers position in an open like manner, they were not being professional about his appointment. Maybe we are sick of being treated like idiots, taking the supports money but at the same time not engaging with the support, there is no accountability. The football department needs a root and branch clear out, who brings in the players? who decides which ones leave? what control does the manager have? do we need a youth team and is it value for money, they all seem to leave for pastures new. Someone needs to investigate all of this. Scottish football needs cleansed, the money the support gives out needs to be spent wisely. 5 years max per director, they too must become more accountable, no more millions of back slapping AGM votes..

Mike
1 month ago

We nearly achieved a second * in 1970, we should have. Ask yourself this, what was the difference between 1965 – 1973 and now? The answer, a really brilliant manager. Another pertinent date for me, 2000. That’s the year Scottish football lost whatever honesty it had left and Murray started his EBT payments. The SFA – SPL – the Celtic Board, were complicit in the dishonesty. Scottish football RIP. That is when the Celtic support started to become angry at the lies we were being fed. It’s not so much at Lennon being appointed caretaker manager, as the manner in how he was appointed for the full time job. Treating the Celtic support with disdain, we deserve to be treated better. No more lies, better communication, more professionalism, that’s the least that we deserve.

1 month ago
Reply to  Mike

Agreed Mike. The manager is the single most important role in any football club. We seem to have lost sight of that in some corporate HR experiment.

Re Lenny getting it – it would have happened to whomever was in the seat I reckon. It looks like the perfect storm hit and, ironically, it’s nothing to do with losing the league to an 8 year old football club. It’s actually the manner and speed of the decline. Literally everything that could have went wrong went wrong. To that end I’m not sure how much of it could have been prevented. I guess we’ll find out when we’re on 9IAR again shortly. 🙂

Mike
1 month ago
Reply to  Monty Burns

You are a great example of a Cellic supporter, bright, intelligent and insightful, your penmanship adds value to the eTims site, keep it going.

Bingo Master
1 month ago
Reply to  Monty Burns

 To that end I’m not sure how much of it could have been prevented.’

Well, they could have refused Sevco the league place, the Oldco titles and the signing, or at least tacit acceptance of, The 5 Way Agreement.

Any one of those would have not only prevented but would have stopped it completely.

But instead they went along with.

Just like they’ll do when Sevco ‘Hoist the 55’ (sic).

1 month ago
Reply to  Bingo Master

I agree Bingo but ultimately that wasn’t something Celtic could control in isolation.

FWIW I think the PLC approach to all things Sevco was the wrong call on every turn.

Jco
1 month ago

No doubt the bed wetters will tell you to fcuk off blah blah but, well said. I gave up a season ticket i had since the mid 90s in 2019 because of the “fcuk sake Celtic “ brigade. Got fed up listening to a row behind me constantly moaning. No doubt now in their element cos we’re not playing well . The league is gone, roll on next season and we can ram everything the hunnery has written said about us back down their throats. And to the Celtic blogger that was praising Charlie ridiculous yesterday, go fcuk tersely..

1 month ago
Reply to  Jco

Thanks for the feedback Jco.

Eddie Whitelaw
1 month ago

Sorry, but this article is everything that is wrong with some Celtic supporters and the club in general. Stale and prepared to accept second best, without any sign of a fight.You are using the abuse that the manager is receiving to turn on an impassioned support, who are without doubt rightly justified in their criticism. The manager has not behaved with dignity nor respect towards the fans and I am a firm believer that both should be earned, in my opinion he has not earned either. “Club like no other and Added Value”, are two statements that the current board ought to examine, because so far they have meant nothing. If we continue to be as passive and accepting that you would wish us two be, we won’t be the club celebrating the next Nine in a Row

Bingo Master
1 month ago
Reply to  Eddie Whitelaw

And not a method of The 5 Way Agreement anywhere …

As written above, given the spate of these articles these past couple of days, it really is like there’s a concerted effort by the board to keep blaming the support just like they’ve been doing since the Ross County game when they called us ‘entitled’.

Which, I suppose, should come as no surprise, given who owns them.

1 month ago
Reply to  Eddie Whitelaw

Thanks for the feedback Eddie. I think you miss the point of the article – I’m not turning on an impassioned support and actually agree with you in the boards perspective. I do have huge issue with people personalising it towards Lennon. Ultimately, backed into that corner tho, what would you do? What way would you behave?

Seppington
1 month ago

Who the hell are you to tell anyone to sit down and shut up? Whilst some might go over the score with the vitriol they are justified in being angry. A lot it is generated by the club’s continual refusal to do what is blindingly obvious and remove a manager who’s clearly lost the plot, and with said manager’s refusal to take any responsibility for this season’s collapse. The longer it has gone on the more the frustration has built and it is being directed entirely at Lenny because at least (in the fan’s minds) Lawwell is going. It’s not all Lenny’s fault, a lot of it is down to players believing they are better than the club (Ntcham/Frimpong) but you have to ask why players are desperate to leave. It’s not because the league is poor, it’s been like that since they all got here, so it comes down to money, coaching.or ambition. Ntcham was perfectly happy to play under Rodgers, a “name” manager, and would have believed the appointment of BR showed the ambition of the club. Watching Lawwell undermine BR and then replace him with a backwards-looking cheap option “without looking at any of the other candidates” showed that, no, there is no ambition at the club beyond “big fish in a small pond”.
I love Lenny, it breaks my heart to see this happen. Much as though I would have rather had a better coach with greater European experience I accepted his appointment and really wanted him to be the one to deliver the 10. It’s been obvious to pretty much everyone since November that wasn’t going to be the case. He should be gone, and the longer he stubbornly won’t resign (can’t blame him really) or that the board won’t sack him (can very much blame them) the more anger there will be.
Also “we’re not good at developing players” is a MAJOR problem, especially now with this Brexit b.s. making it harder to sign talent from Europe. This was obviously going to be a problem the moment that vote was over and shows a stunning lack of foresight by Lawwell et al.
Will you take your tongue out of the board’s ass if we’re inevitably downsized further with the appointment of John Kennedy for next season?

1 month ago
Reply to  Seppington

It’s not for me to tell anyone what to do. We all have a right to vent spleen. I actually share the frustration as much as you do and I agree with practically everything you’ve written. My point is vitriol in small doses isn’t a bad thing. Mob mentality – and let’s be frank, it’s been there for a while – is so far removed from the values of the club I find it abhorrent.

Lenny IMO ran out of mitigating circumstances last weekend, even allowing for the more tenuous and ludicrous stuff. But, backed into the same corner he is, what would you do?

Re board: your “big fish in small pond” point is spot on. As for the location of my tongue in respect to the board tho, it’s not there. 🙂

Thanks for the feedback.

Seppington
1 month ago
Reply to  Monty Burns

Thanks for replying Monty. I apologise for the tongue comment, it just feels like there’s been a few articles on different sites today of a similar theme and it feels like a concerted effort by the board to get the fans off their backs (and Lenny’s) and it seemed like this was another one.
I’d say mob mentality is not always a bad thing, after all if it wasn’t for the mob we’d have never gotten shot of the Kellys and Whites and our club would have died!.

mabozzaRitchie
1 month ago
Reply to  Seppington

Brexit bullshit? that’ll be because the eu f_uvcwits cannae vaccinate anyone, players included, coz they don’t know their earhole from their @rsehole..

1 month ago
Reply to  mabozzaRitchie

ARE you a xenophobe? or just stupidly ignorant

mabozzaRitchie
1 month ago
Reply to  Weered

neither check out how ursula von der leyen got her job. merkel gave it to her after the interview process had chosen someone else. coz she was a minging german defence secretary and got sacked te f_uvck. basically you are the Ignoramous. The eu is corrupt as f_ucvk as your govt found out when they were going to *stop* pfizer at the irish border without telling the irish. aye its great. Germany and France are now going for sputnikV coz te eu are so sh!te

1 month ago
Reply to  mabozzaRitchie

You have an extremely narrow view on the E U

mabozzaRitchie
1 month ago
Reply to  Weered

The would be the germany and france by the way who run the eu

highseastim
1 month ago
Reply to  mabozzaRitchie

Next thing you’ll be telling us is 110000 deaths is wonderful!!

mabozzaRitchie
1 month ago
Reply to  highseastim

na always hated the I R A

Jco
1 month ago

Tersely?? Should’ve been yersel

Cartvale88
1 month ago

Monti where would Celtic be if the zombies had been bailed out in 2012, the likelihood is that Lawell and Lennon would be long gone. The anger is not at losing ten in a row. It is the manner in which Celtic have declined since 2012. Manager after manager has had issues with recruitment, and forward planning. Travel arrangements in Europe have been an issue. Never mind Parks buses. We have a group of supporters that would be happy to have moved to Cambuslang with the Kelly’s and the Whites living in the past, when the future is the way.
When Fergus arrived he moved Celtic into the twentieth first century, but since his departure there is an entrenched view at the club that the rivalry between the two Glasgow clubs makes money. Europe that’s an afterthought. Wonder what the bunnet would have thought. The players brought in by the club appear to be projects, look at the roll call of failures in the last ten years.
The club really does not deserve the supporters. They have been bad mouthed by the board over the years. Seen as a captive audience. Now they are biting back and you cannot fool them with ersatz trophies

1 month ago
Reply to  Cartvale88

Good question Cartvale88 and I agree we’ve been in decline. The irony being our decline has coincided with domestic dominance. It’s bizarre that we feel the way we do. I think it’s more a complete mismatch of ambition. One for the new guy to figure out.

Thanks for the feedback.

Cole BurnsBurns
1 month ago

It`s not only the team on the park that needs rebuilding. Everybody seems to ignore the fact that Fergus McCann, by his own admission, built a cheap cost stadium with (extremely) high maintenance. After 20 years these types of structure need virtually millions spent on them just to keep them safe. Do they have that kind of cash?

Maybe this is the real reason Lawwell has ordered a parachute. They are not so cheap in the long run.

mabozzaRitchie
1 month ago

what we really need is a spanking new hotel

Bingo Master
1 month ago
Reply to  mabozzaRitchie

A museum would be better.

Bingo Master
1 month ago
Reply to  Bingo Master

Sure, haven’t we had money ‘resting’ in an account for such projects for years?

Joseph
1 month ago

Nicely written but, just like on the podcast, the author (a fellow Irishman) is unable or unwilling to accept that Lennon is an awful Manager. C’mon Monty ‘Neil Lennon is most likely not the man to leads us forward in a new, modern data driven direction’. You put that in to check we were paying attention.

He’s definitely not the man to lead us forward and should have been sacked by November although I’m open to persuasion that his dismissal should have come in August after the humiliating Champions League exit.

I have to confess my own bias as I have never rated Lennon as Manager. He was a very good player in a good Celtic side and that’s about it for me. He blown10 in a row twice (if you think about it he’s blown 11 in a row) and numerous domestic cups which should easily have been within our grasp. His successes were largely achieved against a background of the Huns imploding, rebuilding or not there at all. He inherited a winning machine from Rodgers and drove it into the ground.

When tested outside the comfort zone of Celtic he failed miserably at Bolton and the least said about his departure from Hibs the better.

When he leaves (very soon I hope), his successor is going to inherit a massive rebuilding job of post Barnes dimensions.

1 month ago
Reply to  Joseph

I think you’re spot on in terms of the rebuild needed Joseph but the facts are Lennon has been a very successful Celtic manager, regardless of how well rated he is. I don’t buy the notion that he was mostly successful because of Rangers implosion and liquidation in 2012. Equally the Rodgers team was at the end of its cycle a year ago. That he drove another treble from them is I think worth respecting.

I do think we can get a better manager. Absolutely. It’s whether that better calibre of manager actually wants to come to us. That ultimately will decide our direction I believe.

Thanks for the feedback by the way.

james
1 month ago

Disagree,Lennon’s a roaster.

1 month ago

This article could have been penned by Duncan.

I can give it no higher praise than that.

Bingo Master
1 month ago
Reply to  The Cha

Very good, Cha! 😀

Leo ( Celtic Ghostie )
1 month ago

Really enjoyed your post. If Celtic sold me a season book with this guarantee !. We will win every domestic game regardless of the opposition 2. We will play exciting attractive attacking football at all times 3. We will risk insolvency to bring only elite managerial and coaching staff to the club 4. We will purchase elite players only regardless of cost and drop them on a consistent basis to provide opportunities for our dynamic young academy players to ensure we do not lose them 5. We will ensure, as a minimum, qualification to the quarter final stages of European competition.6.We will ignore all prevailing socio economic conditions which dictate the wisdom of prudence, THEN I would perhaps feel aggrieved at the lack of success, but no club in the world would or could provide that kind of guarantee. I buy a season book because I love my club, I love going to the games, I live in hope of blowing all opposition off the park but accept that there are no guarantees. All this sanctimonious pish about we put our money into the club the club owe us everything sh*te makes me nauseous. You buy a season book in good faith and with optimism because you want to, no one compels you to buy it. If you are dissatisfied with the product on offer don’t f*cking buy it, if you wish to live in a state of anger buy a rangers tv subscription and join ff

Ghostie.jpg
1 month ago

Thanks for the feedback Leo.

Bingo Master
1 month ago

It started with Murray’s ‘creative’ payment methods, that is, the illegal DOS/EBT schemes and the Celtic board’s knowledge of them.

Which was then rubber stamped in The 5 Way Agreement when Celtic allowed Sevco to claim the status, and titles, of Oldco Rangers thereby agreeing to ‘share the spoils’ with the Newco in this self evident, deliberately mismanaged, decline.

Why no mention of these salient facts in your article, Monty?

1 month ago
Reply to  Bingo Master

Thanks for the feedback Bingo. See today’s article from Ralph ref same.

I’m looking at the whole Res12 piece from a different angle and hope to have something up in a few weeks.

I think there’s a solid charge of corporate negligence in Celtic’s behaviour BTW. Just wanting to see how it looks through a different lens.

Bingo Master
1 month ago

Aye, there’s a popular delusion going around, and it’s driving the crowd mad, but it isn’t the fitba, mate,

Bingo Master
1 month ago

I see Shane Duffy’s made the SPL Team Of The Month …

Looks like this is the week when the trolling of the Celtic support goes full throttle.

1 month ago
Reply to  Bingo Master

Seen that. Had exactly the same reaction. Let them have their moment. It’s theirs – and temporary.

Jimmy McGraw
1 month ago
Reply to  Monty Burns

No it’s not temporary.

It’s part of a long term agreement.

Sharing the spoils.

You remember how the Old Firm works, don’t you?

Devoy45
1 month ago

The instructions from on high are clear. No player from Sevco must be sent off during a match itself. No opposing team may be awarded a penalty. No red cards given to Sevco. Sevco will win 1-0 matches when they should have only ten men on the pitch. Refs may not see any violent conduct whilst the match is in progress. Because we in the SPFL are afraid of Skippy and his international reputation, only he can criticise Scottish referees. Sevco’s 1-0 win last night got all these boxes ticked but there have been many others this season.

Bingo Master
1 month ago
Reply to  Devoy45

Too many infuriating & outrageous decisions to mention, with not one word out of any of the so called Celtic board yet Monty here wants us to shelve our anger, pretend this farce within Scottish football isn’t happening and for us to just go along with his cajoling us to ‘move the debate on’ …

Well listen up, Monty, there is no debate.

The Celtic board have been shafting us, the Celtic support, for decades and their signing of The 5 Way Agreement proves it, their appointment of Lennon in the showers proves it, the results prove it and their spiteful refusal to sack the most incompetent manager I’ve ever seen in charge of Celtic in 50 years of watching them proves it,

And this insulting pish you’ve spewed up here proves that the board has a far bigger grip on the bollox of the blogs than most folk could even begin to imagine and now you lot are trying to do a number on us so that we think it’s our fault once again, for being ‘entitled’ …

Not once do you mention the PLC’s sleeping with the Huns in this article but more than once do you attempt to paint the Celtic support in the same bad light they did after the Ross County defeat.

But you’ll need to get up earlier in the morning than that to pull the wool oer my eyes, bud.

For I don’t walk with the herd nor fall for their delusion and I woke myself up years ago.

And you ought to try it sometime.

1 month ago
Reply to  Bingo Master

See previous posts Bingo. It’s just my opinion. Not trying to pull wool over anyones eyes, just shift the debate on.

You can go outside and throw shite at the moon in angst all day if you like. It’s not gonna change anything. I tend to find better action comes from calm and reason than the waste of anger. Maybe I’m just an aul fart…;-)

Ref article contents – as I say, I’m looking at the whole Res12 thing differently to Ralph and the requisitioners. I’m in violent agreement on it but didn’t believe this was the place to put it.

Hope to have something on it in a wee while.

Thanks for the feedback.

Adam Gallacher
1 month ago

Great article, best thing Ive read in ages and joins up a lot of messy dots Ive had in my now head.

1 month ago
Reply to  Adam Gallacher

Thanks for the feedback Adam.

charlie
1 month ago

great article monty but we won the ten years ago and no cheatin huns can change that

charlie
1 month ago

ps ignore the masterbatin bingo chump his teams deid

obz
1 month ago

Great article

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