A Cunning Plan…Same As The Last Cunning Plan

Timposter looks at the 26 June upcoming JPDT where the SFA will investigate the SFA, like they did once before…

Well I never thought I’d see the day when the SFA would decide to adopt a more progressive foreign approach to footballing matters.

It would appear they have gone all French.

They have looked around and found an impeccable plan that has worked previously.

A plan that cannot be questioned.

A plan that guarantees success.

A plan that all the clubs cannot question.

A plan that has worked before and will work again.

A plan that cannot fail.

You might even call it a Blueprint. Let me spell it out to you, no translation from the French needed.

LNS

What’s that I hear you ask?

What’s this got to do with the French?

Deja vu mes amies.

Now let’s just flesh this out for you.

The Disciplinary Process is in operation.

The CO has thoroughly investigated and decided the appropriate charges to be brought and the tribunal will decide if there is enough evidence to support the charges.

Articles of Association and Disciplinary Rule allegedly breached:

Charge One Article 5(2) of Scottish FA Articles of Association 2010-11 5.

All members shall:-  be subject to and shall comply with the Articles and any statutes, regulations, directives, codes, decisions and International Match Calendar promulgated by the Board or by a Standing Committee, committee or sub-committee thereof, or by FIFA or UEFA or by the Court of Arbitration for Sport;

Article 5.1 (a)(2) of Scottish FA Articles of Association 2010-11

Each member shall procure that its officials and its players:- Observe, submit to and comply with the Articles and the statutes, regulations, directives, codes, decisions and International Match Calendar promulgated by

(a) the Board or by any Standing Committee, committee sub-committee thereof, or

(b) by FIFA or (c) by UEFA or (d) by the Court of Arbitration for Sport; Charge Two Disciplinary Rule 1 (Scottish FA Judicial Panel Protocol 2011-12) Disciplinary Rule 2 (Scottish FA Judicial Panel Protocol 2011-12)

Rule 1 All members shall:-

(a) observe the principles of loyalty, integrity and sportsmanship in accordance with the rules of fair play;

(b) be subject to and comply with the articles and any statutes, regulations, directives, codes, decisions and International Match Calendar promulgated by the Board, the Professional Game Board, the Non-Professional Game Board, the Judicial Panel Protocol, a committee or sub-committee, FIFA, UEFA or the Court of Arbitration for Sport;

(f) behave towards the Scottish FA and other members with the utmost good faith.

Rule 2 Each member shall procure that its officials, its team officials and its players act in accordance with Rule 1.

So we await the judgements on the 2 Notice of Complaints which were raised as a result of the Compliance Officers Report which will be heard on Tuesday 26 June 2018.

All is well with the world of Football in Scotland.

Or is it ?

The widely held view on these charges are a result of the SFA’s granting of which was the subject of ‘Resolution 12’ to Celtic plc’s 2013 AGM.

But wait a minute. Resolution 12 was actually about the Role of the SFA in licensing dead RFC, “review and investigate the SFA’s implementation of UEFA & SFA license compliance requirements, with regard to qualification, administration and granting of licenses to compete in football competitions under both SFA and UEFA jurisdiction, since the implementation of the Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations of 2010.”

We can’t comment until due process has been carried.

We will soon find out the answer to this.

Or will we ?

Let’s just have a look at the evidence in the CO Report to see why not.

Oh wait a minute. We are not allowed to see the CO Report.

Wonder why not ?

So no evidence of any kind of what, when and who knew about the granting of this by the SFA.

How did that LNS turn out ?

A process that was predefined by the SFA, where beforehand we didn’t see any evidence that resulted in a whitewash.

Sound familiar?

Deja vu mes amies.

Deja vu.

 
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portpower
2 years ago

Me and Mrs Ferguson are eloping.

Noel Skytrot
2 years ago

Same old same then. Fans are the only ones who wield any power and most clubs fans don’t give a fuck. If supporters of all clubs wheeled out the cannons and pointed them at the cabal with the fuse lit they would soon take notice, until then, same old.

Auldheid
2 years ago

If you mean Resolution 12 is a stall tactic by Celtic you couldn’t be more wrong.

However Timppster has a point regarding transparency, not just on the areas RFC have acted in regarding the SFA charges, basically of dishonesty, but on the expertise that will be brought to bear on the issues by the SFA.

Given what triggered the Compliance Officer to investigate in the first place and what Resolution 12 asked, which was for UEFA to judge the case any Panel that does not have UEFA (and HMRC )involvement is not worth a candle.

I would not be surprised if panel members are not named for their own safety reasons but Celtic as the first club possibly disadvantaged and TRFC should know who they are and question if unhappy about their expertise and neutrality.

I agree with Timpposter there is a sense of Deja Vu at play but if there is and the JP process is not properly conducted, the football clubs as members of the SFA and the SFA itself are treating supporters like fools. Ratner anyone?

Rob O'Keeffe
2 years ago
Reply to  Auldheid

Auldheid,come on.Res 12 has been on UEFA’s table for years,they have done nothing.The SFA have done nothing.Celtic Plc are moving along thinking everything is tickety boo.The other clubs don’t give a damn.Why is the club that should be taking Sevco/DaveCo’s place in the Europa qualifiers this season doing hee haw? The corruption is in with the bricks in Scottish Football,this Won’t change.If fans put their hands in their pockets to buy into this charade then I would politely suggest that they shut the feck up! A United Ireland will happen before Stripping the Titles…..

portpower
2 years ago
Reply to  Auldheid

Insolvent trading.

BroxburnBhoy
2 years ago
Reply to  Auldheid

Thank you Auldheid. There seems to be a fervent wish that somehow Celtic were part of the wrongdoing. No Celtic like the rest of the clubs were affected by the wrong doing and had nothing to do with it. The Rangers Oldco – now liquidated and it’s management perhaps along with the SFA ( we’ll soon find out ) conceived, executed and paid the prIce for their scam. We all paid a price. Honestly too many X- Files conspiracy theories here

Broxburnbhoy
2 years ago
Reply to  BroxburnBhoy

In what world does one club in any country go up against the ruling body when it is only one of the clubs affected? Let’s destroy Celtic so we can have justice? Going it alone is a nuclear option. Have UEFA stationed the SFA ? No all the clubs need to act together

Monti
2 years ago
Reply to  Broxburnbhoy

BB,
So what does one do when the other clubs don’t do anything?
Move on n that?

CarllJungleBhoy
2 years ago
Reply to  Auldheid

Call me cynical, Auldheid, but isn’t it more likely that the JP will result in nothing more than a token rap on the knuckles and that the simple fact that representation by UEFA and/or HMRC would ensure that the dirty washing get’s a proper airing, rather than another shifty shift of the goalposts, means that the chances of that actually happening are close to zero?

Auldheid
2 years ago

If UEFA having looked at the sequence of events from 2007 say all was in order up to and then after the 31st March 2011, then that is what Res12 wanted, not that RFC were guilty.

It follows that without UEFA input anything the JPDT come up with has no authority on the matter and as Timpposter suggests it’s just another sham. Surely even the SFA would recognise the need for expert witness?

It looks like the LNS scenario designed to achieve minimum damage to RFC individuals still in office who were part of the old regime from Nov 2010 when HMRC sought payment after an appeal from 2007 was rejected, until CW took over on 6th May 2011 AND to minimise criticism of the SFA Licensing Committee individuals under the Chairmanship of Petrie.

In their shoes of being caught with your metaphorical hand in tin what would you do?

State you were checking how easy the drawer was to open but admit you had no right to do so?

Mike
2 years ago

Deja vu or not, we because of Res. 12 are aware of what went on in and before 2012 and so are more prepared to do something about it. If it wasn’t for Res.12 there would be NO JPDT, there would have been NO C.O. report. The Celtic board because of RES 12 requested an enquiry into what went on previously. Auldheid and his friends are not completely alone, the CSA and the Celtic trust could also get involved if there is a whitewash beginning 26th June. That is quite soon just a couple of weeks away, we have waited since 2013 for truth and justice and I feel closure is approaching and that will determine if Scottish football is worth the watching or punters are still continuing to watch a bent game and can take the decision to walk away. I have always stated that I wanted Scottish football to be accountable by the Freedom of Information act, if enough pressure was put on the SFA by politicions then they would have to be more accountable. By the actions of “Rangers” and the complicit SFA/SPFL it is crucial that Scottish football becomes more accountable, sport without full accountability is nothing but a sham, pointless. Lets hope that the JPDT gives us the correct answers.

Rob O'Keeffe
2 years ago

Auldheid,UEFA have known about Res 12 for years.They know the club involved are still in liquidation and aren’t interested.The SFA know this.Dave GASL dangles the 5 way agreement in front of them.Corruption in Scottish Football is in with the bricks.Celtic Plc think everything is tickety boo and let’s just move on.Even last night,you had Ronny talking about how “special ” the games are with the Huns,Lenny saying that there isn’t any competition without Huns and Brendan talking about 39 years “history “regarding scores against Huns and how lovely the atmosphere is? All the while,Tanner is asking questions about the O.F.? Bloody joke.Definately United Ireland before Title Stripping…….

Monti
2 years ago
Reply to  Rob O'Keeffe

Rob,
Do you recall Lawwell’s quote about the huns not being in the top flight ” costing us £10m a year “?
Not the language i’d expect of someone seeking justice.

Auldheid
2 years ago
Reply to  Rob O'Keeffe

One of the reasons there has been so much resistance is because the possibility that fraud has occurred.

In an internal Ibrox E Mail one individual said that in a conversation with HMRC in August 2011 the HMRC opinion was that what the old regime did was tantamount to fraud.

Fraud is criminality and if the game lets that go unpunished it moves from being corrupt within football law to be being criminal under public law.

Decision time approaches.

portpower
2 years ago

Come on. You know how they work the procedure?
(pray for midgies when these bassa`s are fly fishin`)

When you stand at a game, give all those that`re corrupt within our beautiful game a wee reminder that they`re not welcome in the stadia.

They`ld make a quid even if it was you and me chasing a ball.

They`ll tell `US` we`re only downhearted.And a lot`ll believe.

Rob O'Keeffe
2 years ago

Talking of jokes,did anyone watch Tyson “against ” that guy last night? Was that sponsored by the NHS?…..I’m telling you,try golf,i predict it’ll be played all round the World and there won’t be institutionalised corruption involved……on the tee…Gary Player…..

portpower
2 years ago

Miracles do happen.
A prod up side being prod.
It`s not going to end up swell for them.

Bampot bloggers with mikes in your hand at the games,whenever possible,ask the SMSM stenographers the hard questions they`ll never answer.

Buy them a pie first though.

Uralius
2 years ago

Oh come on now, this is a Celtic Rangers thing. Fans of other clubs don’t care. The directors that have most information just want to move on. Who cares if Billy decides whether or not he gets expelled for Kerb stomping his whole class….

BroxburnBhoy
2 years ago

It’s a “Rangers” SFA and EUFA thing

portpower
2 years ago

There`s a wide range of supporters at the bit Uralius.
Though few though.

I`d still love to know why King`s two concubines, Paul Murray and Barry Scott did not stay and obey?

Uralius
2 years ago
Reply to  portpower

Well it goes like this, King hasn’t got the cash for the share issue. So his concubines left and he is going to get the 18-sevanfannies to buy shares in an attempt to make the whole thing a non-issue.

portpower
2 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

Uralius,
there`s that squirrel out of the hat. Don`t look at the hat.
Look at the assistants cleavage.

sevco moobs FC.

Brrr…

Monti
2 years ago
Reply to  portpower

🙂

Patrickqu
2 years ago
Reply to  portpower

Apparently Scott asked for his money and and got no reply!!

portpower
2 years ago

Is it not all about all this not happening again once the traitors per are ousted.

1 club,1 vote.

Good old days…

Paul
2 years ago

I wonder how this “private” affair will turn out, seem to have been here before..have we not..

BJF
2 years ago

Mike is spot on when he says the very least the Resolution 12 guys have done is make the cover up widely known and kept the focus on it,albeit in a less public place than we might like.

I lived thru the Jeremy Thorpe case and it was astounding that such a public figure could be associated ( allegedly) with such a blatant criminal conspiracy and do many key figures in society knew something about it.. Can you imagine if Ruth Davidson conspired to have her partner murdered and both Nicola Sturgron and Richard Lennard became aware of it because some of their colleagues knew about aspects of it and did nothing. The establishment Government or e.g. Church instinctively seeks to cover up things that it feels might rock their boat but sooner or later it all comes out and the SFA’s day will come. Key players are passing the hot potato , a matter of time. but when the music stops dome one will get burnt.

portpower
2 years ago
Reply to  BJF

An environmental suit to suit.

Mike
2 years ago
Reply to  BJF

Or Cyril Smith BJF, the young lives that, that monster ruined, or the young girls caught up in the corruption down south, civilised, not a chance. The latest one I read was the judge who is responsible for families down south who said. “The old family system is toast and I think that’s great, the future is single parent families and same sex families with artificial insemination.” Can you imagine that a family judge would have the brains of a sheep and that was the answer to how society should be. Pure dead stupid.

portpower
2 years ago

Taken on as banter from all sides of their wage packet.

jimboh
2 years ago

The last 2 contributions from Portpower are the only ones he has posted that I have actually understood and agree with.
Is it my age or am I coming down with something?

jimboh
2 years ago

Scrub that, there has been a PLETHORA of comments since the last update and my contribution. his comments have reverted to type. False Dawn anyone.

jimboh
2 years ago
Reply to  jimboh

The posts I ws referring to were at 1.11 and 1.21 pm. Hope that helps.

portpower
2 years ago
Reply to  jimboh

So we`ll call the squirrel Plethora then?

Mike
2 years ago
Reply to  jimboh

Join the port power appreciation society jimboh, its an exclusive club
open to all but the hard of hearing. 😉

portpower
2 years ago
Reply to  jimboh

A sun tanned backside maybe Jimboh?

Wisnae me
2 years ago

When those currently in power refuse to punish the wrongdoing of those previously in power it is because they are, or will be, repeating those crimes.

See Obama.

Mike
2 years ago
Reply to  Wisnae me

or Ford about Nixon, the same Nixon who requested that the Hanoi government do not accept the Johnston government proposals for peace and wait until he is elected and that he would give them better terms,
therebye extending the Vietnam war.

Mike
2 years ago

All this is irrelevant anyway, cos “Rangers” 2 is coming, this was only a cunning plan to divert attention until they could cough build up funds to win the league again. Apparently their new centre-back
Goldson is worth £20.000.000 million pounds. Arfield is worth only £10.000.000 mill. and Morelos £12.000.000 pounds, so there you have it
a “cunning plan” for back to the future Scottish football.. is coming home, coming home.

Weered
2 years ago

If you want a good laugh go to bbc I player and look up The Blame Game first aired on Friday 8th June… One of their best ever shows…

A bit of northern Irish humour to help put smiles on yer collective pus

Weered
2 years ago
Reply to  Weered

C S… IT certainly was a belter. The show is brilliant at the way it pokes fun at every fucker here whether deserving it or not… Our dark humour shines through 🙂

2 years ago

All this talk about governance of our game, important tho it is, is above my pay grade.

Let’s McGinn a new topic. Trouble is where do you McGinn? Perhaps old Will will provide a clue…To McGinn or not to McGinn. Aye, that is the question.

To McGinn at the McGInning, he started his football life at St M and because of his family there was already talk of him coming to CEltic. Of this I am sure…it would have been a disaster for him if he had. He was not physically developed enough and had not found a role that suited him. These issues have now been resolved…he is physically stronger and he has a define role in a team.

Hibs have been good for him and vice versa. He needs to tackle a new challenge now, but should it be at Celtic? Unless we lose one or two midfielders, it will be a tough challenge for him, to stay in the first team. No doubt he will run all day for us and he loves the club. These are big assets. Skill-wise we have better…..Rogic, NtCham, Brown, e.g. However, he has shown that he can develop…the difference in the player from StM to Hibs is impressive.

Well, I think my argument has just gone full circle…right back to the McGinning. I do not know if we should sign him or not! However, that does not matter because BR knows.

Rebus

FredDDobbs
2 years ago
Reply to  rebus67

Signing McGinn is a no brainer. This will extend browns career. Brown can be rested whilst McGinn does the business. Make no mistake them thar hunz are up for next season. Making Gerrard the hun tit is not a given

FredDDobbs
2 years ago
Reply to  FredDDobbs

I would also sign mcgeoch. That wank armstrong will finally be fucked off. Praise the lord

2 years ago
Reply to  FredDDobbs

Fred,

I think it will happen, agreed. You are on the money that Sevco will try harder to unseat us, at least at the beginning of the season. It could go either way… Gerrard could be a total disaster, or he could inspire his team. I am sure that the fixture computer will be kind to them initially, giving them easier games…Hamilton, Livingston, StM etc.

REbus

FredDDobbs
2 years ago
Reply to  rebus67

10 IAR is almost impossible. Lets get real. complacency should never be our downfall. Quality like McGinn should never be ignored. What tim would not want a part of a 10.

McGinn with emphasis on the IN

Broxburnbhoy
2 years ago
Reply to  rebus67

I think Sevco have been trying really hard already – they are just not up to the job. Aberdeen is a credible potential threat or at least more credible than Sevco

Monti
2 years ago
Reply to  FredDDobbs

No, the term tit is applied to you ya fanny!

The Cha
2 years ago

For those with Celtic withdrawal symptoms, the away game against Anderlecht is on BT Sport 3 at 7pm.

For those that don’t subscribe to BT, I guess there should be streaming links but, sorry, I don’t know any!

FredDDobbs
2 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

every day?

Rob O'Keeffe
2 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

Could Ralph please tell us when Odsonne is signing?…..Signed Odsonne….

Monti
2 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

The Cha,
I know a missing link…..fredcdobbs.

Monti
2 years ago

” I hope they ( Celtic ) don’t do it again ( the treble ) next season” – Alan McRae after Celtic clinch the invincible treble.

Well we did, so fuck off!

Monti
2 years ago

Auldheid,
If when all the investigations are concluded & there’s no title stripping, what do you think the club would do & what would you like to see happen?

Auldheid
2 years ago
Reply to  Monti

The result of the JPDT will not of itself require title stripping as a sanction but it could lead to it.

If it doesn’t then best Celtic could do is set out the reasons for not accepting the JPDT conclusions and say the decision not to apply sporting justice lies with the SFA but Celtic do not recognise the legitimacy of the LNS Commission and until it is set aside will not recognise the legitimacy of the titles won by ebt use.

As long as that stance can be justified by evidence, it will be difficult for the media to attack it although there will be an immediate hoo ha from Ibrox because that is what they do regardless of evidence.

Monti
2 years ago

Where is the compliance officers report?
Why is it not in the public domain?

Devoy45
2 years ago

With McGinn we could go 4-3-2-1
Gordon
Lustig/Boyata/Ajer/Tierney
Brown/McGinn/Ntcham
Forrest/McGregor
Dembele
with our lone striker just in front of the winggbacks.
Morgan in for Forrest, Rogic and Christie used where needed.
Problem? McGinn is good enough to play every match but at Celtic, that can’t be guaranteed. Would he still want to do that? I think we dropped too many points domestically because other teams have figured out the way we play. We should vary and mix it up a bit. Our rivals may not drop so many points again so we need to freshen up our approach.
Morgan, Christie and McGinn could help us do that.
I’m assuming we will have Dembele and Edouard as well as Griff.

Monti
2 years ago

Una,
Good morning to you on this wet Monday, just playing some old Queen tracks on the way into work, got me wondering, is your favourite Queen song ‘ Flash ‘ ?

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