Today’s title takes the form of a word game. There are two words missing from the above, which is a well known phrase or saying. I’m guessing most of you can finish it.
Alright, a clue.
One of the words is “off”
Celtic forced a draw and gained another clean sheet in the march towards a fifth consecutive title last night when in form Dundee came to town.
Alright, not quite.
After a blistering start, which lasted nearly as long as my cigarette, celtic faded back into the usual fare that we have become accustomed to and very nearly made an arse of it again. I genuinely thought the old laptop was running slow, but it turns out that actually was the speed the game was being played at. you’d have thought with it being so cold some of the players would have ran around a bit, even just to keep warm.
But no, it was the same unproductive guff from the same old unproductive guffers.
After the game, I went out to pick the lad up from work, and the cd in the car -some sort of rock ballad compilation which I let run in order to avoid listening to commercial radio, ย (which is the same as having two of your most inane pals prattle to each other whilst trying to sell you a kitchen with an irritating electronic melody) and the tune which came on was Crowded house’s “Don’t Dream It’s Over”.
This particular ditty was quite popular many years ago, roughly around the time Tommy burns was trying to overturn the dominance of , oh i forget their name, they went under a few years ago, and I always associate it with looking at the league table and trying to convinv=ce myself we could still win the title, as we had only lost one game up to that point.
Hearing it again last night reminded me of some dark and desperate days, as I got married around then, and also that change sometimes is the right thing to do.
Sacking Deila is now the very least Celtic should do. Taking Collins and Kennedy out of the frame is also neccesary. Clearly something is wrong, and there have been several chances to put it right, but either he isn’t getting his message across, or he is and it’s being ignored.
There was a moment last night, on or around 77 minutes, when a Dundee player was down hurt. Or having a rest, or whatever.
A number of Celtic players were hanging around the touchline near to the dugout. Ronny deila turned to speak to John Kennedy. Scott Brown may or may not have been one of those players. If he wasn’t , he should have been.
At this point, it was 0-0 ( of course it was, muppet, it finished 0-0 -Ed) , and aberdeen were one up at Tannadice. The gap was down to four points, and the hot breath of the northerners must have been felt on the necks of at least some of our lot .
But no, everyone just stood around yapping.
When they should have been barking.
Whatever passion has been associated with Celtic on the field in days gone by was gone.
The manager didn’t seem to give a toss. The captain wasn’t interested, and the players were reluctant to take any responsibility. not their jobs, you see.
In their minds at least.
Well, I’ve got news for them.
No-one is absolved from blame for last night.
No-one at all.
Deila could have at least realised that although he may prefer to treat his players as adults, they aren’t behaving as such. He should have been screaming at them to get the finger out.
Scott Brown, who has served the club well, and is more than capable of hauling the rest of them to at least an acceptable level of effort, nowhere to be seen, and if he doesn’t fucking want the job, then say so and move on.
Too often last night, either Craig Gordon or a player about to take a throw in had nowhere to send the ball. where is the on field organisation ? Its why we have a captain, it’s also when we look to the more experienced players to pitch in.
Charlie Mulgrew made his 200th appearance for Celtic last night.
A milestone or a millstone ?
At one point he attempted to turn ith the ball. woefully one footed, he couldn’t manage a full circle as the speed he , er, attained would have embarrassed the pilot of an oil tanker.
And the support-if thats the word, don’t escape criticism either.
Yes , it was cold.
Yes, it was shite
Yes, it was perhaps a realisation that maybe the shirt has shrunk and is now on offer to more or less anybody who can out together a decnet you tube video and convince a clique of agents that they have a career in football, but it’s still a Celtic shirt.
And whilst it’s out on the field, it should not ever be booed.
Not ever.
And if we forget that, how can the players be expected to remember it ?ย
Time to start all over.
Today.
ralph,
agree with most of what you say however disagree about the booing part, fans pay there money faithfully week in week out, and they are entitled to let the team, manager, board know how they feel, if it had been the first poor performance of the season then your point would be valid but we have been watching this shite for months, we are not company men who go along with at we are told, WE ARE THE COMPANY
Torrancetimebomb,
Absolutely spot on I can understand the frustration of the fans as well but booing the team and certain individuals is doing more harm than good as the players hide and don’t want the ball(I know I know most were hiding anyway)for the 1st time this season I fear if he stays in charge that we have a real chance of losing the league.
toerrance & hail,
man, ah canny agree that anything good comes fae booing the team: otherwise do it?? Mutter, slag, swear, rant, lose the heid but booing? sorry, that’s no ma style, never was, never will be. Ah canny remember any booing coming fae the Jungle…just crank up the volume N belt oot a chant. But…different days.
But ah feel the frustration.
James Forrest being booed at the start of the 2nd half was nothing short of a disgrace and an embarrassment from the greatest fans in the world. Probably the same people who booed Larsson
Was Forest playing last night?
I thought Armstrong had had a haircut at half time and was playing with his fringe instead of kicking the ball…
You need to get your head out of Ronny’s arsehole, you just might learn something.
I thought it was in Ralph’s!!
Did
your embarassing yourself charlie, deflecting away from what is rotten at our club, and no amount of jokes will save you from the fact you think or thought that this man is the right manager for celtic
Ye aye?
I’ve had some huns gloating, no matter what never boo. Still I wasn’t rhere…
If Ronny Deila is allowed to continue any longer in the job then we can kiss goodbye to any trophies this season. I was working last night but I got the vibes coming through on the piss poor radio commentary that there is no soul in the team.
HH
BG,
did not here that, when I stated that fans should be allowed to show how they are feeling, meant at end of game.
Ralph,
I agree with most of what you say. It is past time for a clearout, both within management and the player pool.
RD and the others will not resign. They will have to be pushed. Unfortunately, getting rid of players will not be easy, nor inexpensive. The ones we can all agree need to be moved on are the ones that will be difficult to shift. The best we can hope for in some cases is to loan them out to share costs.
The whole organisation has a lot of disfunction surrounding it and it needs examined by an external body operating on a consulting basis. Recruitment is flawed; communication is shambolic, and financial strategy is, at best, keeping the club afloat. Perhaps the way forward is for a group of three ex managers/directors to be employed to perform a management audit of the club. Trouble is that this will show up the inadequacies of the board, and, thus, is unlikely to happen. They had the correct idea in hiring a coach with Ronnies’ ideas but their choice has turned out to be rotten.
Rebus
After last night’s disgraceful performance some of these so called players should just as the caption says FUCK OFF,
Gordon: didn’t know what to do with the ball when he had it.
Lustig: couldn’t cross to beat the 1st man.
Rogic: kept digging a hole for himself.
Brown: posted missing all night.
Armstrong: Fucking useless.
Forrest: Replace 1 useless guy with another.
rebus,
brilliant idea, sadly never happen, turkeys don’t vote for christmas
Torrance,
Yes, I think you are correct about turkeys. The only chance would be through fan pressure. I do not know enough about the various fan groups to understand where the power lies, but it would take a united effort to force an option such as I suggest.
It might be unpopular to say this, but RD’s performance in managing a game is nearly in the same class as McCoist……different methods but similar outcomes. We all laughed at how he could not harness the superior resources that he had. Well the chickens have come home to roost
Rebus
I remember as a kid the only thing I ever wanted was the new Celtic strip, the Hoops, white shorts, white socks.
I used to rifle through the other unopened presents to dig this out, hoping it was what I was looking for.
I always seemed to get the new strip at Christmas for some reason and not the summer, anyway I didn’t give a fuck when I got it as long as I got it.
Passion? These fucking cunts masquerading as Celtic managers and players couldn’t spell the fucking word.
That shirt, our shirt made me feel 10 feet tall, it meant something to wear the shirt, I felt it and I understood it…..and I always fucking will!
Disillusioned today and have been for a while,I feel like I’m sinking inside!
Deila o…..aah fuck it!
The only ones that showed they cared were the fans that booed. Manager and players don’t give a shite but people like Charlie Saiz think it’s OK to have a dig at Forrest! Time all the idiots woke the fuck up!
What, we are idiots for not booing our team,I hate the booing with a passion,followed Celtic for 55 years, proud to say that never once have I resorted to booing,if you don’t like what you see don’t go back,agree the manager has to go,think Collins has too much influence and the players seemed to have downed tools.Hail Hail
Away and lick yer ain baws mate.
CELTIC FIRST,CELTIC ALWAYS, CELTIC FOREVER.
“fucking cunts” Bit harsh Monti, bit harsh.
But ah feel yer pain N aw.
We’ll win the league.
Start afresh.
Bondi,
I don’t think it’s harsh at all….
Ralph I genuinely respect the work you do and the forum you provide to we the support to exchange opinions and thought so I am reluctant to say this but I really, really think I must say that if you think it is unacceptable to boo that at half-time and full time then in my opinion you are wrong pure and simple, how else do we make some desperate attempt to have our voices heard, to try to influence what is happening in our club. Monti will say boycott but I feel that is counterproductive booing is an expression of opinion no worse than that so yes I booed last night I wasn’t happy doing it and I wish to God I hadn’t had to but I was and I did so please respect my right to an opinion as I do yours I may not agree with it but I respect it and grant you the right to have it.
While on roll here…
That arsehole delia can FUCK OFF as well taking the 2 imposters he has beside him collins and kennedy.
Deila out
Fixed thร t for you Monti. ๐
Cheers Cha!
hey now hey now dont dream its over…. theres a battle ahead.. yeah look something isnt right. starting to think hilary or donald may do a better job
Maybe you should have been at the game. That would, do give you some right to criticise the fans who actually turned up.
Maybe you should have been at the game. That would give you some right to criticise the fans who actually turned up.
I forgot that Celtic have a divine right to win every single game and win every trophy available.
You’d think the world was ending the way some of you lot are crying this morning. Get over it and grow up you bunch of children.
your just a wind up merchant who was not at the game last night, quite clearly
You’re* Welcome.
I live abroad and have previously stated that only the dimwitted and the easily led would spend ยฃ25-30 to watch Scottish fitba.
Essentially I’m saying if you buy a season ticket to an SPFL team then you want your heid checked by the men in white coats.
Well why comment on a Scottish football thread?? Who’s the dim witted one??
Ah take it you live on the Shankhill Road,you sound just as deluded as that shower of Shite.
I was on the Shankhill Rd within an hour of the bomb going off…just saying ๐
‘ Commando ‘ again?
Idiot
An idiot abroad – Karl Pilkington.
your some wanker, you can sit in the front of the taxi i have booked for deila and our so called management team.
think the whole point vincent, of not going is an attempt by fans who normally would turn up is a statement of intent to curtail the malaise
if it goes on any longer then there will be more empty seats. the apologists are now becoming more fervent detractors than monti
Having an opposing opinion does not an apologist make Ian.
Just a difference of opinion bud.
I happen to think Deila has the right plan to make the changes we need to make to become competitive in Europe again.
Now whether he is the right man to see it through is another matter because if these players are not buying into it or giving it 100% it’s irrelevant what he say’s or does.
At some point these charlatans have to take responsibility for their own dire efforts on the park.
Seems to me some of them are not up to the task and getting away with it at the expense of the Manager.
Deila may well go but you would be a fool to think the issues would disappear with him.
Clear out needed and some genuine quality needed to be brought in.
Too many simply not good enough now either past or in decline.
a proper manager would get the best out of this group of players, they are not all bad players… look at what difference hiddink made at chelsea
ronny out now for the love of god
They are bang average with a couple of exceptions.
Name any of them that would get into the current Everton squad.
Tierney and Griffiths aside.
Biton is capable. As is Roberts. Granted these days are few and far between but in my biased opinion Forrest is unplayable too
Charlie, you just answered your own question.
Both Tierney and Griffiths might make the bench.
Everton are not a Champions League level outfit.
How many of the current Everton squad would have made O’Neills best 11?
Which if you have been reading my post on here for the past 2 years is kinda my point.
There is no way on earth Celtic can compete finacecelly with the EPL or more likely the English Championship,unless D.D.spent massively,which we all know will never happen.
What we can expect with our financial income is a management team that know the game,are tactically astute and can get the best out of our players and can argue there corner with the Board.If Ronny and his team could deliver that the support would back them 100%.He has had 19 months to deliver but so far has failed miserbly.
Charlie my god still backing deila ,are you in touch with reality at all,maybe it was dodging the bullets in the north is the problem,post traumatic stress i think.
Cool story.
At no point have I backed Deila today.
The whole lot of them needs their baws rattling.
That is true Charlie,you have not backed him or critisized him either,but there has been a lot of DEFLECTION.
The buck stops with the players for me.
If they can’t put a shift in regardless of form then no matter who manages them the end result will be the same.
Not deflection just how I see it.
Kieran Tierney turns up every game motivated and puts a full 90 in.
As does Johansen and Griffiths regardless of form that’s what they do.
Why is these players are motivated and others clearly aren’t?
Do you not find that slightly suspect or confusing?
I think you will find a wee clique of the old guard are not pulling their weight.
Cork, gie that bullets crap a rest will yi.
Why?
cos were ona a fitbaw blog, no discussing the ‘Troubles’ plenty of other site for that Monti.
sorry mate its my history and will not stop if you read the other comments Charlie saiz mentions the shankill road bomb but thats ok,????
It was a bit of trivia in response to a post that mentioned the Shankill Road bud.
Not like I was glorifying violence in any way shape or form.
Culpability at Celtic must start and stop at the door of the Board.
These are the men who took Celtic from a position of strength under O’Neill and have slowly but surely since then reduced Celtic to where it is at today.
The demise of Rangers should have been the moment we as a Club kicked on but instead they got greedy used the Financial Angle as the carrot and subsequently brainwashed every Celtic fan into believing being “Debt Free” was a badge of honour in Football.
All the while of course conveniently hiding the fact we owed ยฃ20m to the Co-op as they did.
Downsizing spending less,lowering expectations call it what you fucking want it has been counter productive to a Club like ours who’s Support and wider fan base EXPECTS a certain type of Football served up no matter who takes the job or who is signed.
Ronny Deila was appointed because he was cheaper than maintaining an experienced Manager.
His approach to the game means less spending of cash and more emphasis on home grown talent.
Music to ears and wallets of the sharp suited man.
As a result of all of the above we have taken about 5 steps back from Seville in real terms.
Next season a new threat will arrive from Govan whether they are old or new rangers is not relevant the threat they will pose is very real because it will not take too much investment from anyone to make them competitive in our top flight.
That is because those who have controlled Celtic have totally fucked the situation at hand up.
Perhaps it was all part of the real plan who knows?
I would certainly not put it past them.
Dermot Lawwell etc they are all culpable.
Deila will get sacked I have no doubt about it now but anyone who thinks this will solve the issues at Celtic is sadly deluded.
The issue lies above the Management and Coaching Department.
Well done ya shower of cunts.
Take a bow.
Yes I agree but it’s plain to see deila I like a fish out o water. He has to be removed now!!!!
” Perhaps it was all part of the real plan ,who knows”.
Could have hit the nail on the head there !
Dermot’s “distant” view of Scottish football seems to be of a “back and forwards tennis match ” between , as he refers to it ,”rangers and Celtic”.
Seems the plan since 2012 was to idle in the hard shoulder until the other half of his “rangers and Celtic” brand arrived “back”, as he would put it.
Forget liquidation and 10 in a row ,neither of these subjects are of interest to him , just a return to the “old firm” backwards and forwards status quo.
Have disagreed with you re -Deila , Charlie ; more in agreement with your view here that a potential good plan but wrong man to implement it .
(Other problem there was, to carry out this “grow your own” ,Ajax ,Barca style strategy would have needed huge initial investment;never going to happen ,therefore the whole thing a red herring to kid us all on for a year or two, till DDs “other half” arrive.)
Otherwise I think you’re bang on with what you’ve posted here.
Mon, Wgs and Lenny all left, not fired. I think that they all sussed what was happening thus the cheap option. The cap doffer. Clear the board, management and the players not worthy of this club. Hh
I agree with just about all of that Charlie. Ronny also has by a mile the best players in Scotland and is massively underachieving.
When he goes Lawwell should follow him.
I think Deila will be used as Lawwells scape goat Hector ie be seen to be doing the will of the support but at the same time carry on normal jogging regardless.
It will take Desmond to enter the fray he should by rights boot the entire set up into touch and get a solid replacement in used to turning Clubs around.
Lawwell talks the talk with the best of them but as far as I can see he’s not walked the walk for years.
Deila will be gone soon the real issue will continue to be there until that situation is rectified.
Get this plc global brand shite punted and get this Club back to where it should be MrDesmond.
Well said Charlie Saiz!
Deila is heavily to blame for this, you have to agree?
Charlie that was yesterdays caption competition
Paddy McGintys Goat,I.E.Ronny Deila.
Ralph
I respect the amount of effort and time you put into the site so I am not happy saying this to you t if you really truly cant see why some people at the game were driven to boo you have a serious issue mate, Booing is a expression of opinion nothing more than that, it is an attempt to have the voice of the ordinary fan heard by those who are supposed to working for our club, the support is disillusioned and disenfranchised. The question of Ronnie’s future was surely settled last night we must act now.
In case you think I am taking the huff at being “told off” for booing I didn’t because I couldn’t bring myself to do it but I stand by the right of those who did to air their views
Very few words can describe last night, but we’ll have a go..pish,gash, gutless,pathetic,embarrassing,monotonous,insulting..OK maybe there is a few.I like everybody else bought intae Ronnys philosophy at the beginning because it sounded right,we needed change both tae the systems we played the style we played them and fitness levels would be key..Fu@k me every single aspect of that philosophy has gone tits up big time, for all the Ronny sympathisers still out there then your entitled tae your opinion obviously, but i for one heard alarm bells ringing in Europe last season but gave him one last chance tae convince,well after Europe this season he should have been dispatched there and then, this is a manwhos totally lost the dressing room and all respect of the players in his and backroom staffs ability to manage.How much longer do we need to wait before he’s gone, right up tae the point when there hanging red and white ribbons on the SPL league trophy and handing it tae the Aberdeen captain..RONNY OOT NOW. .
KTF
In an ideal world I would get rid of every one of the fucking imposters involved last night with the exception of one or two junior players.
Sadly I know this isn’t going to happen.
The strategy won’t change but clearly the players don’t want to try for the manager so he has to go today.
I will however NEVER forget the contribution of the players who continue to embarrass the sacred celtic shirt.
Shame on them.
Ralph, I really like this site, it gives people the opportunity to express their own opinions – whatever they may be.
But, you started off the piece by saying you were watching the game on your laptop. I have no idea why you weren’t there, but the people who did brave the freezing cold to watch what may have been the worst Cektic performance I have seen in the 30 odd years I have been going to games, deserved the right to vent their anger. Do you expect folk to sit and politely clap their way through that dross? How else do you express how you are feeling when we, the fans, are paying these players wages.
The team was awful, Brown came out and said the fans deserved to boo. Damn right they did. I highlighted to my son the issue in the 77th minute with the lack of direction shown by the dugout and I’m glad you noted it here.
We paid ยฃ50 for two tickets for Firhill before the game, I wish we hadn’t paid 50p for them.
Ironic that it was Crowded House who sang that song, we won’t be seeing that for a while if this standard of play continues.
Deila has to go. Now.
Finish work at seven. Would struggle to cover 250 miles in time for kick off
Ralph I wasn’t having a go mate, just saying the folk who are there have a right to vent their anger.
Well said Ralph,not everyone can go to every game,disny make them less passionate or any less caring.
Ralph,
Never mind 250 miles, you struggle from the London Road Tavern to Parkhead with half an hour to kick off.
Make that 1-1 m8 ๐
charlie ok semantics apolgist or disillusioned optimist or whatever. the point is that ronny isnt gaining support. one of a managers duties is to command the best out of the players. all he is doing is making drastic changes with a huge squad and geting the inconsistency such foolhardy decisions warrant. he may have it down in theory but its not working in reality.
there is a player revolt happening here and its happened because the manager doesnt have a handle on the squad. there is also a revolt by yhe fans witnessed by their increased absence.
give it up
There was no player revolt in 1980 bud.
The fans wee not disillusioned with a celtic side being Managed by a Club Legend or the fact the side was playing 4-4-2 and the fabled “Celtic Way”?
Yet the Average Attendance was just over 20,000 at Celtic Park.
That aside these players are representing Celtic Football Club,are being paid wages most of us could only dream about for doing a job that most of us consider a past time?
We have all worked under cunts as bosses on and off but that for me personally has never affected what effort I put into doing what is required.
If these over paid fannies cannot tip up for 90 minutes of effort twice a fucking week and give their fucking all then please do me and the rest of the 9 million who wish they could do your “job”a favour and get to fuck.
I want you nowhere near my Club.
Those who defend these charlatans are the appologists and I give two fucks if any of them are your bessie mate they are paid to do a job,very well paid in fact so shut the fuck up get your fucking boots on and do you your job.
With all due respect of course ๐
charlie ok. i feel your passion and see your points. you wont be swayed into thinking that deila is accountable for picking a team and getting the best out of the players so, if he isnt? what is he a stuttering yes man, powerless and a handy scapegoat who isnt allowed to do his job properly. who has contributed to adding to a squad of guys just in it for the money with mediocre input.? ok
Deila has added young players keen to play but who arent quite good enough yet to mix it in the big leagues.
The players he inherited are the worst culprits in my opinion.
Deila is not without fault he is naive in many ways that has never been a debate but the fact is his approach if seen through should see us right in the long term.
We can’t hope to keep up financially in Europe so it’s the next best option.
We still need to invest wiser though and that isssue lays with Lawwell and Parks not Deila.
carlton cole in a schoolboy uniform?
you know i think youre right about the main culprits. i think brown mulgrew commons et al are ned wideos averse to forward thinking and change. i think theyve sabotaged deila. also think deils isnt firing on all cylinders because of it and he his biggest battle isnt against the other teams its within.or he is just not cutting it because he is out of his depth. i think he is a positive chap too naive to see where the knives are out. maybe a revie over clough thingy at leeds. mr lennon would let us eat fish suppers !!!!
Charle S
With regard to your post at 12 we need to stop thinking we can’t compete financially in Europe, we can compete with many many European clubs who are not being embarrassed regularly. However right now that is not really the issue is it.
” Those who defend these Charlatans “?
Well you have supported Deila, how is that working out.
Anyway, The Charlatans are a class band, seen them live once a couple of years back..
” I’ve been walking with no shoes “
Saw the Charlatans few years back N aw in Sydney. No bad, bit dated but still awrite.
A TEAM ARE A REFLECTION OF THERE MANAGER.
Why would players who were constantly critisized by there manager want to play for him?Why are they cosistently asked to play out of there natural position,ask yourself this if you do not Respect a manager and do not believe his ideas or philosophy,why would you wish to play for him?
We all would give our all to wear that famous jersey that is indesputable.
I agree with Del bring in a new Manager and overnight that same bunch of players would improve overnight.
I reckon Ronny Deila would be able to still pass a ball 20 feet to feet even tough he’s been out the game 7 year.
They are a reflection of them.
They can’t put in a shift that belongs to them.
I,you or anyone else in life turned up to work and put that level of effort or attention into our work we would be laid off.
Overpaid wankers who continually take the piss out of those who spend their hard earned to watch them “play”.
Clearout needed too many bottle merchants and charlatans in our side now.
Nobody is beyond critisism,the Board the Players and especially the Management Team,they are paid to get the best out of the players.
To resolve this mess, the first thing you have to do is get rid of the Management Team,bring in a new Management Team,who will asses the playing squad and they will decide which players go and who stays.
Their is no way this Board will resign,they have the ยฃgelt so they have the power.
I see you’ve still got your head jammed up there.
Has your wee bubble burst??
Charlatans the new buzzword today is it?
What was Direa’s grand plan? maybe he wanted to make Celtic the same size as Stomgobbsyshitfc or just take us to the level of nobodies in under 2 years.
Aye you’ve done a grand job, now GTF.
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Spot on CS. Shameful children wearing a mans jersey.
Hope to God there is a press conference this afternoon.
Celtsfan,
Me too!
There was a point last night when the Ronny, Ronny get tae fuck was sung and some fans booed and got angry! Why? Are we now at the point where we can’t have an opinion without it being shouted down? I was annoyed at people booing Forrest before we had even kicked off the 2nd half but that is their prerogative as they pay their money and are entitled to vent.
Tierney was a pass mark and I don’t think Griffiths could be blamed as he had little to work with apart from one chip pass from Roberts.
As for Gordon, every time he got the ball in his hands and looked to move it on all he got was our players back facing him, so what was he supposed to do, just throw the ball at players not wanting it?
Passing!! due to the lack of movement in midfield and 3 of our defenders in ability to pass all we got was passes backwards which ended up with Gordon who had nothing on but to hoof it forward to the Dundee defenders (this seems to be a tactic Ronny has deployed as it happens every game these days!!!!).
Once we resorted to long balls more problems manifested themselves, our forward players ALL piled into the box, the ball usually didn’t make it that far but as ALL our players had moved so far forward there was no-one at the edge of the box to pick up any loose balls and Dundee broke at pace and we were lucky not to lose a goal near the end. This tells me that it is just a free for all and that Ronny doesn’t control what’s happening on the field.
Ronny changed to 2 up front and then to a back 3 and expected what? The players are not used to playing these formations and 20 minutes probably wont be enough time for them to adapt, he also moved Sviatchenko to the right side of the back 3 (slow as a week in the jail) and Dundee started to exploit his lack of pace and he was booked, Boyata no matter what you think of him has pace and would have been a better choice against Dundee’s quicker players out wide with Sviatchenko in the middle where he would be (hopefully) covered by the 2 wide defenders and the defensive midfielders.
So in Conclusion it was probably up there with the worst performances from a Celtic team I have witnessed and I was there just before the McCann era when we shocking but at least we had more than 2 players who fought for the jersey. Ronny’s time was up weeks ago last night should be the final nail in the coffin!
Dziekanoski,
Very good summary of the problems in the game last night.
Rebus
Very well said mate, cant argue with any of that.
In a weird way it would actually be quite an acheivement now if Ronnie were to get us over the line to win the league: players dont look to be playing for him and the board must be looking around to see who they can get in to replcae him (surely), so he is pretty isolated right now.
That this is the situation we are in though is in itself shameful to him, his staff and the players
Part of me is sympathetic to him, and to the team getting booed, a bigger part of me knows when he came in we were all willing to give him a fair chance and no fan goes to the game determined to boo their team, but when what you are seeing is making you angry then what do you do?
If you can take more punishment I’ve written a piece “from the sofa” on the site today which I think at least has some ideas on how we can get ourselves out of this malaise, have a look and see what you think. And yes, one of the five points is a new manager!
Read the from the sofa piece, good article, especially the Lawwell part
Cheers bud, HH
Time for Delia to move on I think. It’s dire and he is unable to put his ideas into action. Seems to have lost the team and the team seem rudderless on the pitch. I think the experiment is over and all of Delais team including Collins need to move on. Get a caretaker in and start looking for a new manager and coaching team. Enough is enough
I was at the game last night…I was disgusted with the attitude and the performance,same as evereyone else (well..nearly everyone else)…and I’ll repeat my opinion.
Deila and his staff are pulling us down…we are going backwards..Dermot Desmond needs to start showing that he is indeed the owner of the Club…and fuckin’ do something…
but did I boo..?
Naw ah didnae…and I never will.
That’s not an attack on those who did…you do what you do.
And I’ll concede that if Celtic supporters are reduced to booing..then we do have a serious problem.
Over to you Dermot…again !!
Fair point Mike B
And SACK THE BOARD too.
cf67..
With the stories I’m hearing about certain Board Members..
they may have to resign in the future.
HH
Go on…..
MikeB, didny catch what you were saying there could you repeat it with big letters for the hard of hearing?
Which stories???
Hail Hail to that.
Seems like more people are getting aboard the Ronny out campaign. Twas a brave decision by the club to give him the job, but it has been proven to be the wrong decision. What would make it even worse, would be to keep him in the job any longer. He needs to go now, along with JC & JK. We need to regroup under a temporary manager, someone like Strachan (aye like the SFA will help us out!), to make sure we win the league. Then there are some serious questions for the board to answer on the strategy going forward, ‘cos the current one just isn’t working.
Strachan is the man
I would be happy with Strachan, I’m sure Micheala would do a better job than this fuck!
Although I think you will find she is a woman and John probably didn’t mean her but yes she would be an improvement but please no Pete Waterman
Micheala Strachen here, when do you want me to start?
Whats the salary,whats the remit and i require an advance on the said salary.
Booing is the least I would expect. Another couple of dropped points and I’ll be surprised if the the RONNY OUT banners don’t appear.
The players have to accept some of the blame but have you ever worked under a manager you don’t respect or like? It becomes very hard to motivate yourself to do even the simple jobs.
I think if I was getting paid ยฃ15,000 a week I would snorkel through a river of pish for a complete cunt with absolute passion.
Overpaid wankers bottom line.
I would have played for Celtic for ยฃ250 a week if good enough and run through brick walls just to be on that pitch in front of that support regardless of who the manager was if good enough to get a contract.
Look at Tierney he’s paying under the same boss has it affected his desire to put a shift in?
Has it fuck.
Charlie in an ideal world I agree with you 100%, but this ain’t an ideal world. Football players are human beings, and they get pissed off with their manager, just like you and I do at work. If you don’t like the manager, or don’t buy into his ideas, you won’t burst your balls for him.
Afraid that’s what is happening, like it or not.
They are there to put on a show for the Support bud NOT THE MANAGER.
They lap up the praise and idolising they get from the support readily so when the time comes to pay some back regardless of who is in charge your priority is to those who pay for you to be there.
If you as a player of Celtic Football Club 1888 cannot muster 90 minutes of hard graft and endeavour on behalf of those who sing your name and back you up then please rip up the very nice contract and gtf.
Are you saying that it’s the fault of the players?
Yep they should own their own inept,abject shit that they are producing.
Deila completely and utterly blameless?
Go on…
Great diary again. Some big questions need to be answered by the board:
Should he stay or should he go now?
Should he stay or should he go now?
If he goes there will be trouble
And if he stays it will be double
So come on and let us know
Should he stay or should he go?
…..if he stays there will be trouble
and if he goes we’ll win the double
so come on don’t be a foe
we wanna win ten in a row……
Belfastbhoy,
London calling, Ronnie!
The zombies are dead!
Rebus
‘IF’ only we could get eleven KT’s on the park. ‘Predictable’ and ‘Pedestrian’ was the fare served up last night. I’d say it’s only fair the players take respectability in equal measure to the management team. RD is looking tired and the job appears to be ageing him. Is it the clubs fault, the managers and the player, that fans are that emotionally attached to this PLC, that it physically hurts when things don’t go to plan and not to forget it leaves us, the players, the management team and the club open to ridicule from the SMSM. Only my opinion. HH
i backed ronny for as long as i could but my god how bad have we become ??? he has to go and go now because if he stays in charge aberdeen will be champions and there will be no CL next season
we are fucked at the moment……..
Absolute shambles of a management team, the manager being the worst ever at Celtic and that is saying something!
Peter it hasn’t worked put us all out of our misery please!
You owe it to the fans to clear him out before the weekend – do it please!
Franco,
Correct!
Worst manager at celtic????? Were you not around for the Tony Mowbray take it on the chin years????
Franco…worse than Barnes, Mowbery…really.
4 points in front. Still in the cup.
Ah know whut yer sayin but c’mon really?
but fuck me….you know what would be worse….sack ronny and leave collins and kennedy in charge till the end of the season….then we would be really fucked
our board have got to aim high pay big and get a manager who has the experience needed…..no more cheap options…….if you pay they will come
Charlie,
agree 100% the players as well as the manager share the blame, no arguments, total clear out needed from top to bottom
Forget Champions League.
Anyone thinks these players are ready for Champions League is deluded.
Those who were at that level are no longer producing the same levels they did 3/4 year ago these guys are on the slide now.
Lustig Brown Ambrose Izzy Commons are no longer at the same level.
Lack of genuine investment in quality replacements is now biting us on the arse the Seville team would destroy this squad right now even with Guardiola in charge that’s the reality of the downsizing since O’Neill left.
Perhaps if Deila is replaced and perhaps if we spend ยฃ15-20m on 3-4 quality players we would be competitive again but I don’t think that is going to happen unless Dermot does something spectacular in the next few weeks or months?
Europa League also rans at best.
Operation Clusterfuck a resounding success since O’Neill left.
Tkae a bow Peter take a bow.
The balance sheets look fabulous …well sort of ๐
I’m not going to abuse Ronny, up until now I’ve been a quite a vocal advocate for the Norwegian. But after watching last nights performance it’s clear to see that the players aren’t doing it for him. It’s a shame because I think he could have done things with our club. He’s never been truly backed, foisted with John Collins as his deputy, the best parts of his squad sold and replaced with players of insufficient quality and hounded by the SMSM since day one. The fans have wholly lost patience now, and it’s a disgrace from the board. We’ve treaded water since the newco disappeared up their own arses and Ronny’s an easy scapegoat for Lawwell, Desmond et al.
Players know come the end of the season irrespective of whether we win the double or not Ronny will go, and this lack of respect for us the fans is hard to take.
The club needs a good clear out from TOP to bottom to get back to where we should be. Hail Hail!
Kenny,
You don’t need to abuse Ronny……allow me…
Ewan has the rights of it, we must have an alternative manager lined up before sacking him. If Collins/Kennedy stepped up to the plate we would be handing the title to Aberdeen.
He has to go, I don’t know if there’s anyone out there who would be of his ilk, only actually capable of doing the job. Most fans agree with his ideas on fast paced, fitness, pressing etc so I hope the new guy has those same attributes, but can also put a team out on the park.
These players should hang their heads in shame at the shambles they are serving up, they have left the manager hung out to dry, and Deila doesn’t have the interpersonal skills to heal that rift and the gap is getting bigger every week. He must go now!
Have seen some muck performances in my life but have never booed any player wearing our hoops. Would love to get on the pitch and kick their shagging arses , but booing our team and especially young Forrest was totally wrong.
Delia has to go , along with dictator Lawell and most of board.
Only hope we have is that Rooney is out for Aberdeen for 6 weeks and they will struggle in that area.
It’s plain to all we need new blood and passion and we will get that from Allan, Tierney and Christie and possibly a few other young guns. Bring them on and leave the duffers on the bench.
Gerry I do not want the man “in charge” for one moment longer. If needs must we appoint a care-taker manager, of course nor Collins or Kennedy they are guilty by association The longer term ideas do not need jettisoned but Ronnie and his entire management team do.
I’m now in my seventies and have supported Celtic through thick and thin. When I was a youngster I lived on the London Road about 200yds from Celtic Park and used to get lifted over from about the age of 7-8. I would probably be taken into care in today’s climate but it was different times. When I moved to EK a priest used to organise a game every Saturday morning between one team wearing the the Hibs strip and one wearing the Celtic strip. When I wore the hoops my chest swelled with pride and I always felt twice the player I was. I loved to walk home wearing the strip much to the consternation of my parents! I now have a round trip over 220 miles to watch imposters with a couple of exception who have no idea of the privilege it should be to play for Celtic. I feel we are a rudderless ship sailing towards calamity. It’s time for our billionaire.owners to shit or leave the pot and we can get in people who would care more for the club.
Wee Bertie,
I hear you my friend!
Cracking post Bertie.
HH
Well said not so wee Bertie.
We have a manager who is dedicated to his system. The problem is with his system he has two main components missing. The two central defensive midfield positions.
You need gladiators in there, Wanyama, Lambert, Lennon Robson type players who laid down the law. This is our turf though shall not pass. What do we get Brown Bitton Mulgrew Rogic, too slow,too clumsy too scared. The whole system fails because of this one vital cog missing.
So until you get that cog fixed you have to change.
This is where Ronnie fails. He has put too much trust in Brown Bitton etc that they would come good. They haven’t.
So change it go 352 433 or whatever suits the players you have.
The centre backs continually make last gasp tackles due to being a high line when our midfield lose the ball the back 4 are too stretched the full backs are up the pitch the centre backs are too wide and the so called defensive midfielders do not protect.
Ronnie true to his principles should now go if he can’t change.
Jimmybee,
Agree that RD’s best strategy would be to change to a different formation that suits the players. Unfortunately, It would not be enough because he cannot read a game. He puts his players out there and if it does not work, he subs in players to the same formation that previously did not work. On the rare occasion when he does change to a 442 he expects the new system to function within a 25 minute period with players who are not used to it.
He is a poor game manager who does not learn from experience. To hide this he sticks with a single system that he believes minimises the chance of him losing a game.
He is not the only manager who could manage a youth development strategy, nor is he likely to succeed in the longer term because of the above failings.
Rebus
Rebus, i completely agree,he will never change his tactics or formation,im not certain that he knows how to.
A Manager must, Must be able to motivate his team,he seems incapable of this,he must be tactically aware and know how to alter them through the game.I do not think he can do this either.
Personally i dont think that the Board will sack him until there is a new or temp one in place.
Time will tell.
Well said Rebus
Mike and Dziekanoski,
You are obviously very astute individuals! Also very good looking.
Rebus
Rebus,
Just because i agree with you,does not mean that you are not telling the truth,you also are very astute Rebus,did i tell you it is my birthday in
6 months time .
Hope you had a good holiday.
Folks,
Keep it civil please, we’re not Orc’s. And I’m sure a few have been looking at what’s being said and exploding into their socks reading it. Get Gary Monk in with his own backroom team ASAP or at the very least Steve Clarke as No.2. That fud Lawell has to go too.
Ralph, you smoke too much mate. I worry. Get on ecig’s at least.
“keep it civil”
“that fud Lawell”
Hmmmmmmm.
These players need told that if they lose this league then there is nowhere in the world they’ll be able to go without being ridiculed by our fans or fans of that new club. Nowhere!!! Maybe that will galvanise the lazy sods, something our management team are totally incapable of doing.nas for booing….give it a rest. Fans have put up with this pish for long enough. How else should they show their anger and disgust? Total silence or non attendance? Each is bad but they need to let this shower and Board (one and the same) that they cannot gloss over the truth and think we will take it. Cheering them on just allows them to continue to think that all is ok.
the only positive from last night for me, judging by the reaction to his tweets, is that the support have finally realised Brown offers nothing, and never has. He has never come near to repaying his transfer fee or lofty ยฃ20k a week wage. For far too long he has lived off a goal celebration at Ibrox.
He should’ve been out at the first opportunity after being caught on camera slumped blotto on a pavement. Not captain material, and not Celtic class.
Compare and contrast results / performances between January and February of this year. January, 4 outta 4 in the league with 16 scored, Brown comes back, 2 draws and a defeat in 5. Overall our points per game ratio is higher without him this season.
I think we are all agreed that Deila’s time is up, and we must see an exodus in the coming months, hopefullt Brown will be near the front of the queue along with the rest of the incompetents.
O’Shea,
I agree with you about Brown, it may be the case he is coming back from injury that is keeping him back, but we need a clear out.
Lawwell first tho..
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Hey Monti,
If he’s not 100% fit, or was rushed back from injury, it’s inexplicable and indefensible that he’s in the starting line-up!
that said, I never saw the fascination with a fully fit Brown.
Aitken, McStay, Boyd, Lambert, Larsson & Lennon are all the captains I’ve seen in my time following Celtic. All different players with differing captaining styles, but each to a man would run through a brick-wall for the Club and support, dust themselves down and do it agin if needs be.
In Brown I see nothing to inspire those around him.
O’Shea,
I’m not really bothered if Brown stay’s or goes to be honest, he is certainly not irreplaceable.
Most on here at least are in agreement that there needs to be a clearout of management and players. However, consider how this could be managed. Suppose we wish to offload the three DU players we acquired. Each of them will be on 10000-15000 per week. That is half to three quarters of a million each per year. If we buy out a three year contract it will cost 1.5-2.25 million per player, assuming players do not accept a partial payout to be free to sign another contract with another club.
To get rid of 4 or 5 players then would cost between 6 and 11 million. Perhaps we could offset some of this by transfer fees, but recent experience shows we get bottom dollar under these circumstances.
So getting out of the Ronnie experiment will be costly, especially if it cannot be financed through large transfers out, nor through CL qualification.
Rebus
The idea that booing the team is something we do not do is way off the mark,I Have been watching celtic far longer than the author of this article,and can remember booing plenty of times,we even had hundreds of fans standing outside celtic park,not to welcome a new signing but to boo him(darren jackson),the surprise is that its taken so long to happen,the football has been dire since day one of RD,S reign.the board have just buried their heads in their hands and done feck all,while droves do not even bother to turn up.even tickets for away games are easier to get,and we could not sell out a small allocation of tickets fro the first ballot for a away game in amsterdam,one of the great away trips in Europe