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Celtic Diary Monday February 1: Who Ya Gonna Blame ?

All I can hear, for the second year in succession, is that bloody awful song where the chorus tells us it’s all about the bass, no treble. As with all those little pop nuggets these days, the lyric is repeated until the song finishes.

So thats that then.

I’m not getting a commemorative Staffordshire china plate this year either.

And it must be somebody’s fault.

Anybody in fact.

Efe Ambrose. He’ll do. some supporters have been waiting for him to make an arse of something so that they can say he was an accident waiting to happen, and he would cost us in a big game.

That big game obviously was yesterday, where 22,000 people, including a sizable proportion from the Highlands, turned up to at least make the game worth staging.

So, judging by the size of the crowd, it wasn’t all that important to most of us. I didn’t go either, because its hundreds of miles away and at the end of the month I have to pay all my bills.

Or at least make excuses as to why I haven’t paid them.

Each of us will have our own reasons for not going, but the truth is if it had been an important game, we’d have gone.

Efe ambrose, solid as a rock in his last four outings, settling down a defence which has been pretty much piss poor all season. Mikael Lustig loses his man, Efe runs across to intercept, doesn’t get there, maybe clips the defender as he runs into him, and its a penalty and he’s sent off.

Stop for a minute and think. No matter how low in your own personal assessment Efe Ambrose is, he is not going to decide to chop a forward that early in the game and get himself sent off. He’s going to try to stop him, he didn’t, there was the smallest of collisions, and even Bobby Tait or the famous R H Davidson would have thought twice about removing him from the field for that one.

Lest they be accused of making their personal feelings too obvious.

There is an issue with the defence, and that issue is not Efe Ambrose. But the guy next to him, Dedryck Boyata has no confidence in himself, inspires little confidence in anyone else, and , as a result, i’m fairly confident we’ve seen the last of him in a Celtic jersey.

What also will transpire from this is a change in the coaching staff. John Kennedy has been complaining of late that his coat keeps falling off its hook, and no-one has bothered to fix it.

 

 

So, after a blistering start which saw Celtic take a lead in under a minute, and Efe Ambrose have one cleared off the line and one head towards the corner flag, the game had changed.

Celtic were down to ten men, whilst Ross County were up to twelve.

Thats always going to make it tricky, especially as this Celtic side lack that wee bit of dig that is required to transform adversity into triumph, Although the big man Erik Sviatchenko looks like he might have a little bit of that, and its perhaps unfortunate that he wasn’t ready to step into the line up from the start, not in place of Ambrose, but in place of Boyata, who, like at Manchester City , continues to flatter to deceive.

No wonder Denaayer overtook him in the international side. The guy is terrified of making a mistake, and most supporters will forgive mistakes, unless you happen to be Nigerian.

Perhaps he just doesn’t want the flak big Efe is getting.  But then, who would ?

The reshuffle saw Calum MacGregor leave the fray, which was a mistake. That meant any creativity and intelligence on the ball had gone from the Celtic side. Ronny Deila called it wrong here, I can see his thinking -as I’ll explain later, but its not the way i would have done it. and thats without hindsight.

Nir Biton and Stefan Johansen remained in the holdong berths, but , as they had done prior to the incident that lead to the penalty, failed to hold anything.

Nir Biton, in particular, though, can be quite proud that he saved the wee woman who washes the strips a lot of work.

Armstrong and Mackay Steven took to the wide positions, but were more withdrawn , which left Leigh Griffiths fairly isolated up front. Without Macgregor in the pivot role, Celtic offered very little after that, and seemed to be waiting for something to happen rather than making it happen.

1-1 at half time, and at this point there was no sign the game was beyond Celtic, but the nerves were starting to jangle.

But hey, it’s a Cup semi final. They should be jangling.

As the game wore on, they jangled more, and exploded when County went in front after a corner floated in and the Highlanders won two headers to leave Craig Gordon stranded. Two headers-without Ambrose Celtic are terrible in the air at the back.

Gordon had a more than decent case as he was man handled and prevented from even trying to save it, a fact he pointed out to refereee Cragi Thomson immediately, and Thomson appeared to make a note of his complaint. Well,  he scribbled something in his book while gordon continued to rant at him.

A third goal came soon after, as concentration and organisation deserted Celtic. Deila threw on Scott Brown in an attempt to get a wee bit of shape and cohesion to the side-there were still twenty five minutes left, but the midfielder clearly wasn’t fit.

He did make a bit of difference though, with one or two county players being rebuked and stared at for their niggly challenges and pushing, which had gone unnoticed by the referee up to this point.

Celtic were awarded a penalty to sort of make up for the mistakes Thomson had made earlier, and had Leigh Griffiths not been feeling sorry for himself up until  that point, then he may well have tried to score . As it was, his half arsed attempt hit the goalies legs, which tend to stay in roughly the same place as when they were when he started to dive, and that was that.

You could see the shoulders sag and the heads droop.

Fair play to County-actually, no , not fair play. They lunged, kicked, grabbed , pushed, pulled, shoved and clattered their way through the game, but then again, thats down to the referee to sort out.

And that was never going to happen. Ambrose had run into a player and was sent off. Would you risk kicking someone. Johansen did, and got booked late on, but I’ll wager he felt it was worth it.

I did.

And so to the managers excuses.

Or are they reasons ?

‘It’s tough to play 80 minutes with 10 men and, of course we could have done that better. 

‘And we have to show more character when we get something against us.

‘We are a little bit too weak and give away things too easily. We could be stronger in situations when things go against us. That is something we are working on and need to get better at.

‘I think Broony (Scott Brown) made a difference when he came on and showed that when you go at them, tougher, we can create more. 

‘But it is my responsibility so I am very, very disappointed today and of course all the players are as well. But what’s done is done. We have three days and then we go into another important game and we have to look forward to that.’ 

Hard to disagree with any of that, but it doesn’t go far enough.

Removing MacGregor was the mistake.

Biton should have gone, Johansen and MacGregor should have been in the central berths. James Forrest should have played the second half, ten minutes at the end was no good to him or us.

Armstrong and Mackay Steven were both tiring, and at the very latest, one of them  should have only done an hour.

 But most of all, and this is no-ones fault but Deila’s- the pitch was heavy.

Very heavy, and Celtic were lightweight.

County were prepared to scrap.amd Celtic couldn’t.

Considering the plethora of Scots in and around the team, thats a shocking state of affairs.

For all those of you reading this who weren’t that bothered about the treble, theres a mighty big reaction going on now that its not going to happen.

Fair enough, to have no European football after christmas-as is usually the case, and no treble won, as is usually the case can be interpreted as a failure to move forward.

So go ahead, call for the manager to be sacked.

Alan Stubbs is the man. Stubbs who shot off back down south after the club looked after him during his illness ?

Or Brendan Rodgers ?

Tell you a wee story about Rodgers, from the book “Living in a volcano, ” which deals with how managers work.

On his flip board in his office, Rodgers has  a set of figures. 12 x 17 = 204.

When an eighteen year old player is in front of him, he refers to that equation first. Its how many wage packets the kids has in front of him.

That tells me all i need to know about Rodgers.

Moyes ? Still not found a job, i see.

Whether we like it or not, Deila is not going to be sacked. He is not going to resign, and he is working to change things.

He got a lot wrong yesterday, but some of the players did as well.

And they’ll be gone before he is.

Its the last day of the transfer window today. Celtic may yet surprise us.

Patrick Roberts will be here. for eighteen months.

Colin Kazim Richards will be here. Even Kristoffer Ajer should be around.

The lack of creativity is being dealt with.

The poor defence is being dealt with, in more ways than one, we hear.

Its a little harder to remain opimistic, but things are being done.

Lets wait and see if they are the right things.

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Davcat
8 years ago

I seem to remember a certain person saying on the south side “moonbeams” think that says it all .

if I kept telling my boss it was “going to get better” and it didn’t well I know I would be getting my P45

frank
8 years ago
Reply to  Davcat

Agree manager and his backup team need to go. Playing with just 1 striker is not the Celtic way.
Scott Allen should be playing , midfield needs more bite and have to protect our defence.
The goal keeper is also having a poor season

Dziekanowski's nightclub child
8 years ago

Ambrose, was unlucky but to say that he is good in the air defensively is crazy, he is weak in the challenge never attacking the ball, 2 games lately when we needed a goal and didn’t look like scoring we have reverted to long diagonal balls into the box to no-one (a fat sally tactic that he was laughed at for) and why play the ball about defence only to pass it back to Gordon who hoofs it up the park back to the oppo defenders? As for johanssen… he turned up for 5 minutes then buggered off again, he shouldn’t be near a Celtic team in his current form. I’ve had enough of this powder puff pish, something needs to change. I could go on but the cat is looking more like a football every second.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago

Ambrose has won just about every header he’s challenged for in the last 4 games don’t know what you have been watching but it ceatinly wasn’t Ambrose in an aerial challenge.
Johansen was fine yesterday I thought in fact alot finer than Armstrong who’s passing was fucking shocking to say the least.
Johansen was still full of running with 5′ to go that’s why he stayed on and the aforementioned never.

Celticreggae
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Have to agree with you there, thought Johansen had a bit of passion and determination and never stopped 100% for the jersey but again is the media scapegoat and thought staurt armstrong was awful, I saw his head go down many times and no effort to win it back, he should have been taken off instead of Bitton and I thought that was why the crowd booed at the time. Even Makay stevens showed a bit of agression which is very uncharactaristic but honestly dont see what armstrong brings at all and after seeing his body language and strolling back after countless wasted passes was really annoying, dont know how the management team dont see those things.Tierney class act, do we have any good young centre halfs? Rant over. Hail hail

Dziekanowskis' nightclub child
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Really, Ambrose has won every header in the last 4 games?? I sit looking along the 18 yard line at the Celtic end and I can assure you that he loses more defensive headers than wins them, his passing and control of the ball is shocking, the other week he turned and misplaced a pass to Lustig who was standing 5-7 yards away and put it straight out the park (professional player my arse, if the opposition is attacking from their half he is always to far off his man allowing them time to take the ball in and turn if needed. He is technically poor, he does not jump towards a ball to clear it, he is caught underneath a high ball 90% of the time making his clearance headers weak and due to not attacking the ball he is easily brushed away when jumping. The guy is shocking.

Armstrong looked as if his confidence is very low which is a shame as there is a great player in there and Johanssen had a few runs and a few tackles but nothing else, when Brown came on it was noticeable that we actually had someone on the park that was pressing the opposition which tells a story.

Bawsman
8 years ago

Great post mate, was dreading the usual rubbish post defeat.

The red card for bringing a forward down who is through, one on one, with the keeper was to rid the game of the cynical ‘professional’ foul.
Efe had NO intention of fouling the guy, intentional or otherwise.

Give Thompson the merest sniff of an opportunity to card a Celtic player and he will. He is incredibly cute with his ‘decisions’ for and against Celtic.

One of those games when you just know it’s not your day, I always get that 10 man defence feeling when Thompson is ref.

Morto
8 years ago
Reply to  Bawsman

The offence is, “denying a goal scoring opportunity”. Was the forward actually denied an opportunity? I don’t think he was reaching the ball before Gordon so, no, he wasn’t and therefore the most it can be is yellow card.

caltonlad
8 years ago
Reply to  Morto

That’s exactly how I saw it. Forward knocked the ball too far to reach so he tucked up his undercarriage and went down. “Honest mistakes” Thomson is a nightmare.

andybhoy
8 years ago

Much I agree with you Ralph, but Deila and his cohorts need to be removed, preferably asap.

CeciltheLion
8 years ago

Spot on, Ralph. Maybe just as well. Does the current manager deserve to match Stein and MON with a treble to his name? Of course not.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  CeciltheLion

Perhaps if they gave him O’Neill money he would be of course 😉

CeciltheLion
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Except that there’s no evidence that he can pick a player. There’s plenty of evidence that he can’t. Balance of probabilities, it’d be more money down the drain that’s already blocked with the bodies of the dross he’s bought.

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  CeciltheLion

Hear Hear.

8 years ago
Reply to  CeciltheLion

Cecil,
Spot on!

celtsfan67
8 years ago

Kazim Richards, FFS. I’d rather do without. Honest to fuck, if that’s sorting things out then we are in deep fucking shit!

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  celtsfan67

I agree someone at Celtic should do a simple 10 minute google on his goal scoring ratio… Scepovic might as well come back.

Plumsaucesaurus
8 years ago

Ronny Out! (And take JC with you)

I’m jumping onto Monti’s bandwagon. Yesterdays performance was a disgrace.

No blaming Thomson or the SFA. Ambrose has cost us in too many games, especially this season. Ronny picked him and should shoulder the responsibility.

Away to sign a guy who attacked a journalist recently and put him in a squad with Grffiths and Ciftci. Unbelievable scouting we’ve got…

SELDOMSOBER
8 years ago

Desperately need to remove boyata from all things Celtic the guy is fuckin terrible.
Ambrose has had enough chances time for him to move on as well

As for delia he couldn’t pick his arse

Uralius
8 years ago
Reply to  SELDOMSOBER

Neither can a T-rex.

8 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

And they are not here anymore.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

The Marc Bolan Appreciation Society will be all over that.

Cortes
8 years ago
Reply to  SELDOMSOBER

agree entirely about Boyata.

Efe is a liability but not as bad as Boyata. Kennedy and Boyata and whoever sanctioned signing Boyata should all go.

Cartvale88
8 years ago

The crazy idea that Boyata and Awfy Awfy are a defensive partnership, crazy.
When Thompson smirks after ending off Awfy Awfy we could still have one the game ABZ did not too long ago,
Instead of gaining control he proceeds to get the team to attack.
It was a penalty a sending off, could have been a yellow, but Celtic hav been here before against Cally, Kilmarnock, Hearts with dubious decisions. Have th idiots not learned there lesson yet.
When we wen down to ten men we were poor, irrespective of the joke officials.
Delilah andd JC are rotten, do not have a clue how to close a game down and should go now.

8 years ago
Reply to  Cartvale88

I thought I saw a smile spread across Thomsons face as well.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Raymobhoy

He was still smirking 5 minutes later.
He’s a twat always has been.

8 years ago
Reply to  Raymobhoy

Yeah it was all the referee’s fault! Cough…

Bgbhoy
8 years ago

If I missed my targets set by my employer on the same regular basis then I would be removed. I couldn’t give a monkeys toss about the treble. What I cannot accept is yet another shocking passionless defeat at the hands of a tiny club. I cannot accept that the manager cannot learn from his mistakes and continue to make the wrong subs. I cannot accept him saying once again were weak. I cannot trust his signings again. Am I to believe an 18year old is the answer to all our problems?? You could put Lionel messi in that side and we would still not qualify for the ucl group stages. No more excuses. No more stats. No more sayin it’s goin to be OK next year because it’s not

8 years ago

” EFE AMBROSE ISN’T TO BLAME “???!?

PMSL

Plumsaucesaurus
8 years ago

That we’ve gone from Van Dijk and Denayer to Laurel and Hardy since last season is galling.

Celtic should be looking at Markus Weinzierl from Augsburg to replace Ronny ASAP.

Anyone suggesting Rodgers or Moyes wants their fucking heid checked.

Bgbhoy
8 years ago

And another loan deal from man city and ciftci out on loan??? This clown is making it up as he goes along

8 years ago

Ciftci to be sent out on loan?
One of the best strikers in the league when he was at Dundee Utd, go to Celtic for 6 months and your career stalls?

Genuinely feel sorry for you Nadir, you are better off away on loan mate.

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

M, the place is rudderless, no development, no cohesion, no direction, no heart and Deila and co have no ability.

deadhead67
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

ciftci should never have been signed/and ronnie did the same in scottish cup semi,when Gordon was sen,t off ,took off forrest who was running amok.he learns nothing ,just a sixth rate manager

Dougalarse
8 years ago

How many cockups does Efe get before it’s one too many?

Willie Garner got two!

deadhead67
8 years ago
Reply to  Dougalarse

was not his fault yesterday,johansen has more cock ups per game than EFE in his whole career and don,t mention capt calamity,our poorest captain ever,4.5 million,ripped off their

celtsfan67
8 years ago
Reply to  deadhead67

Utter pish! Brown is first name on the team sheet every week.

Uralius
8 years ago

Still waiting for info on how to submit something for the site.

Hector
8 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

Send it to etims.contact@gmail.com and we’ll put it through our rigorous vetting process via our partners at the Herald group!

CeciltheLion
8 years ago
Reply to  Hector

…or just send it straight to level5, c/o Ibrokes Stadium. I hear the Herald’s a bit short-staffed.

Big Shuggy
8 years ago

so Nadir Ciftci is going on loan,Stefan Šćepović is on loan,Carlton Cole we got for free but can’t get on the bench in front of the Ciftci who’s going on loan.Now it looks like we are signing Colin Kazim-Richards hardly a prolific goal scorer but he might batter hugh keevens for us so that’s a plus.

So here we go again Bangura,Miku,Balde,pukki,lassad,Fridjonsson. what the fuck are this board playing at?

Brian53
8 years ago

Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics

I had to make do with the BBC coverage on Sunday. I settled down with trepidation and was relieved when we started with some pace and a brilliant through ball from young McGregor. This was going to be our day, the Griffallo played for the team and squared the ball for young GMS to slot home and we were on our way.
Unfortunately it was not to be, slackness in midfield, a player more often than not out of position and our whipping bhoy not for the first time in his career was the patsy. The sniper on the grassy knoll had done his job and with minimal contact Efe was rightly off. Harsh I know but that’s the rules.

We got to half time and I thought that we just shaded it and was thinking to myself that we could weather this and come away with the win. It wasn’t to be and we were out.

I stared at my Sunday dinner just after the game and I felt sick. I eat, sleep and breathe Celtic and losing sure ruins my day as my family can testify. I am of the win, lose or draw variety of fan and do not think we have a divine right to win anything. We can blame others for any defeat but as someone famous once said “If you’re good enough, the referee doesn’t matter.”

The fact was that according to the match stats we had more of everything yet Ross County did the most important thing that you can do in a football game, score. Well done, not bad for a team fourth in the league.

As I pushed my food around the plate I thought back over the game at the things that had annoyed me the most and that was the commentary. The BBC trying their hardest to get our manager the sack, our national broadcaster who is meant be impartial. I had a look at their Royal charter and found out why this is. Page 3, chapter 5, Para 2: “The BBC may also carry out other activities which directly or indirectly promote the Public Purposes…” Well there you have it!

I spent the rest of the evening on various Celtic blogs to see what other supporters and the trolls were thinking. I was saddened to see that some fans are allowing the trolls and the media campaign get to them.

When we were in Europe the “Get the Celtic manager out” campaign focused on our poor results and would have us believe that this was how we measured our managerial success. The campaign quickly transferred to the mythical treble as the measure and the saddest part is that some of the support are aiding and abetting in this.

In European competition we have had success with two of our greatest managers/teams. In the modern era we have reached the knock-out stages of the CL under Gordon and Neil with many an adventure with Martin who took us on the road to Seville in that empty handed season 02-03.

The great teams of Jock Stein and Martin O’Neil stand out alone in our history and other players/managers will always be judged against this high marker of excellence. The gripe against Ronny is that we have had poor results in Europe particularly away from home. Fact is we have never done well away from home in Europe. Another fact is that these great teams had the right mixture of player skills, intelligence and physicality that the present team does not have.

The mythical “Treble” has never been the measure of our managerial success, I don’t think it is or has ever been for any team. Why would it? The LC is 47 and we have won it 15 times. Big Jock won it in his first year in charge (our 3rd LC win) and would go on to win it 6 times, 5 in a row in his first 5 years in charge. Jock won everything on offer 66-67 and the clubs first treble. A feat he repeated (treble) in 68-69. As with Europe we had to wait until Martin’s first year in charge for our only other treble in our history, season 00-01.

So how do we measure managerial success? We will all have different criteria as we all see the game differently, as we do every match. What we shouldn’t do is let the fucking media dictate how we do it! The way I measure success is that we play as well as we can given the particular instance of a game. We have no divine right to win any game and it would be unhealthy for the sport if we did. Like others we should not have this tainted attitude.
My main criterion is that I/we do not get embarrassed by our standard of play. I have been watching/supporting since 62-63 as an 8 year old on my father’s shoulder and grew not expecting much from my team until I was a teenager. In all these years I have been embarrassed many times in many individual games under all the managers that we have had.

The media and trolls will move to “the double” now, so here are some quick stats. In my stats a double doesn’t count unless you have won the league:
Willie Maley: 3 league & SC doubles
Jimmy McGrory: 1 league & SC double
Jock Stein: 9, 2 Trebles, 4 league & SC doubles, 3 league & LC doubles
Billy McNeil: 1 league & SC double
Wim Jansen: 1 league & LC double (a timely double)
Martin O’Neil: 2, 1 Treble, 1 SC double
Gordon Strachan: 2, 1 league & SC double, 1 league & LC double
Neil Lennon: 1 league & SC double
Ronny Deila: 1 league & LC double

Don’t fall for the lies, damn lies and remember the boring statistics.

Aberdeen and East Kilbride next, onwards and upwards.

Brian53.

Thanks to CelticWiki

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Brian53

Would I be correct in saying you supported the Kelly’s and Whites?

Brian53
8 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

No, quite the opposite in fact. Are you telling me you supported them? 🙂

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Brian53

Was just asking.
You talk about how poor a record Celtic have in away games in Europe and that you are quite correct. I would be interested on how you spin the record of the current managers simply atrocious home record against fairly mediocre opposition?

Brian53
8 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

No spin.
The current team are inconsistent but we will hopefully win more than we lose. They have played some brilliant football and as you say some atrocious stuff. Injuries with CB has played a part as is the lack of a proper DM.

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

Win more than we lose in Scotland should be a given.
Played brilliant football? Name ten games in 18 months that we have played ‘brilliant football’.
Shouldn’t be too difficult, but don’t include games were they played ‘brilliant football’ for 20 minutes out of the 90.
No, you can include them.

Brian53
8 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

True.
The great thing about football is that it is subjective and a group of people can go and watch the same match and they all see a different game. That’s what makes it so interesting in the pub afterwards.

8 years ago
Reply to  Brian53

I turned the volume off. Made for a slightly better experience not having to listen to that tripe.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Brian53

Fabulous post and well worthy of a thread of it’s own.
Well said Brian voices like ours are being drowned out a bit as always after defeat but the fact emains the actual facts speak for themselves.
My view is a League and Cup Double is a good Season and a good run in Europe on top is the cherry on the cake.
If I had to chose between a League Cup or Scottish Cup Double the latter wins hands down every time.
Many ,many factors as you well know are involved in winning or losing a game of Football this Season several factors have continued to blight this Seasons progress from last.
I could go on and write them all down again but alas the ignorant among us choose to remain so as the blinkers and delusion stay on.
We lost a Cup Tie to a decent enough side that’s it end of story we move on to the next.
KTF as always.
HH

elcormaco
8 years ago

IT was the pitch! (which was terrible) IT was the ref! It was Efe! It was John Kennedy! It was the wrong kind of leaves on the track!

Sadly the only thing yesterday will do is draw the line more clearly between the Ronnie in and Ronnie out sides, dividing the best thing about Celtic – the fans.

A treble was never that important to me, would much rather have played 6 CL games or continued in EL until after Christmas. But since failing to do any of those things either was Ronnies fault, I m not sure what the guy would need to do, besides run on the pitch and stick one in the top corner past Craig Gordon, to be held responsible for anything bad happening to Celtic.

We have been going backwards under Ronnie and perhaps, maybe yesterday will convince a few others of what is glaringly obvious- Ronnie is not making us better. That petted lip kid on hard man thing he does when things are going against us – does anyone take him even remotley serioulsy as a hard man. I gave up on him some time ago, and sadly nothing will change, Hes a useful fall guy for the board, doesnt rock the boat about our terrible signings and keeps fans from asking questons about those that put this guy in charge in the first place I am under no illusions that naything I say will change one single mind, surely though even Ronnie cant be bomb proff for ever.

Uralius
8 years ago
Reply to  elcormaco

I don’t agree with you. The supporters are the best thing about Celtic all these fans can wise up and become supporters.

elcormaco
8 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

I thnk we agree on one thing – we agree the supporters are the best thing about the club.

I had no reason to not want Ronnie to do well, I was anxious as I knew nothing about him, but at what point do you trust what your eyes are telling you – we are mentally weak team who fold in important games on a regular basis and are no where near the fast paced, high pressing team that Ronnie tod us to expect. We ve seen glimpes, but bar thet last few months of last season, never on a weekly consistent basis. And that hasnt been maintained this season either,

And to those who blame the coaches but exonerate the manager, how the f**k does that work? How can you be so sure where responsibilities are divided? As manager, as even Ronnie accepts, he has the responsiblity for first team results and peformances, neith of whcih are good enough imho, with or without whatever the papers might say.

Uralius
8 years ago
Reply to  elcormaco

He most definitely got it wrong on Sunday. I can’t forgive him for his choices after the sending off! What bothers me the most is I am not sure if he can motivate people properly. There are so many leadership books out there. I can only assume he has been reading the wrong ones. I know that almost every one of our players are capable of turning a game on it’s head against the likes of Ross County, but they don’t seem to believe that.

CeciltheLion
8 years ago

“In all these years I have been embarrassed many times in many individual games under all the managers that we have had.

Difference now is that we’re embarrassed in almost every game by the lack of high intensity, attacking football that we’re promised. Gutless, clueless and shameless is the new norm.

BJF
8 years ago

Really sickened by yesterday’s outcome. My view on Ronnie was if we won the treble he should get another chance, if we lost the league he should go but the League and one of the cups is harder. Does he have an alternative? Anyway congratulations to Ross County they got what they worked for, the referee was not the reason Celtic lost. Gordon made two exceptional saves and Fox had to make three and with one he got a bit of luck on a deflection.
Did you see how far Griffiths penalty rebounded, I was at the corner of the North Stand and it almost came the length of the pitch, he hit it well enough but straight at a keeper who never moved, hindsight eh! If he had scored the second goal, which he should have, just after GMS maybe a different story, maybe. Again with hindsight McGregor should have stayed on and maybe GMS shuld have been off.
I felt, like others, Effe had sobered up but his decision making remains appalling. There was a moment, forgetting the penalty for a moment, when Gordon passed to Sviatchenko and Effe was trotting alongside Sviatchenko parallel to him and about 15 yards away. The Dane realized that he wanted to pass to a mid fielder who would pass out right, so Celtic would progress into the Ross County half. However if Effe stayed where he was they would just end up passing to each other and/pr back to Gordon with no progress. Sviatchenko told/pointed to Effe to run wider, he then passed to the midfielder who, with his back to goal, passed to Effe who moved the ball up. My point is Effe had to be guided by a player new to the team , just off a mid season break and who had barely trained with the squad and had to point to him where to go. Effe does not have a football brain and that is why his mistakes are so cataclysmic. That said he was daft to make contact especially since he was behind the Ross County player but also Lustig should have had that avenue blocked off.
We have wanted to see Armstrong in amid position maybe we know why Ronnie plays him wide, he brings real balance there that was missing yesterday.
Aberdeen is crucial, Brownie is back, anyone but Effe in the back four, if we lost at Pittodrie Aberdeen will get real impetus but a draw would be fine. Hamden was a midden and energy sapping and Aberdeen have a had a good rest, scary eh!

selkirk casual
8 years ago
Reply to  BJF

Sviatchenko wasn’t on the park the same time as effe!!!!

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  selkirk casual

LOL!! Must have been the Buckie.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  BJF

Erik came on as a result of Efe’s departure.

Jagsbhoy
8 years ago

For almost the first time, Ralph, I have to completely disagree with your comments. Apologists such as you are are keeping Deila in post against the wishes of most Celtic supporters. We can also blame the board but the underachieving, unexciting team we are forced to watch is down to Deila. He completely lacks any passion as was displayed yesterday when he should have been on the touchline berating the people short changing us. His decisions and tactics continue to baffle almost everyone and there clearly is no Plan B.Blaming the officials is just another smokescreen. We should be able to beat any team in Scotland regardless of what the officials do. This has been an issue since we were formed. It’s nothing new. Finally for you to suggest that Ambrose might be a bit of a player is ludicrous and I would include Forrest in that also. We are on a downward spiral and the only way to reverse this is get rid of Deila before he embarrasses us even more. How many more times will we hear that progress is being made. I think even you would struggle to say that this is the case.

Cartvale88
8 years ago

I note all the comments regarding the BBC, th media, the officials, the cow pat football pitch.
Do you honestly think that teams of yore evn during our bad periods would have crashed as badly as this mob.
There is a lack of leadership on the park, especially in the defensive set up.
Lustig is not a Captain,you need a leader, Ben h admitted he struggles to come up with Ida’s for the team talk, nice guy not a bruiser.
Delilah is the same category, and wha JC and JPK bring to the party God only knows.
This was another inept disorganised performance.
Harried by County our players (gormless)
Lost their cool, look at the penalty a shocker.
The team are far better than County a team f Celtic rejects.
Onwards and upwards is becoming a joke, we continuously shoot ourselves in the foot.
HH

Doc
8 years ago

Folk are unsure about Moyes/Rogers so what about John Hughes? He took Inverness to a record league finish and two cup finals.

CeciltheLion
8 years ago
Reply to  Doc

Steve Clarke for me.

Macca
8 years ago

This is got nothing to do with missing out on the treble. its all about a manager that doesn’t know what he is doing. His signings are terrible, his coaching staff is rubbish, his team selection is pitiful, the football on show is appalling and his excuses are lame. Ronnie has had loads of chances and we are worse now than when he joined. Ignore the stats. Look at what is being produced on the park. Tell me I’m wrong.

CeciltheLion
8 years ago
Reply to  Macca

Sorry to disappoint you, Macca, but you’re 100% correct.

8 years ago

Good Celtic teams win despite the referee – bad Celtic team’s use referees to deflect attention from their own deficiencies. Under MON we had a team of men, now we have a team of boys who can be bullied by poor Scottish club sides. Thank you, Ronnie….

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  DorsetCelt

Under O’Neill we had a team that cost over £20m to add to the talent he already inherited.
I agree we need more bite but to be comparing the current squad with one of the best in ou entire history (and also the costliest) is a nonsense.

8 years ago
Reply to  DorsetCelt

Dorset,
Don’t listen to that fucking clown below, he’s not right!

schoosh71
8 years ago

I believe every player who pulled on the Hoops yesterday, tried their hardest. I also agree taking off Calum MacGregor was a mistake, as he’s the best passer of the ball we have. I think RD has been let down by the coaching team, whereby he has fell for the old Scottish mantras/cliche, “you have got to win the battle and ‘then’ your quality will shine through”. No I want to see the quality shining through from the first whistle, I want to see that our players are better players than the opposition. It’s a about working ‘smarter’ not harder, get the ball down and play. What about that pass from LG for the first goal, we should be singing his praise, for me that simple pass was ‘art’ and should be treated as such and it elevated him to a higher level than everyone else on the pitch. I don’t like, in fact loathe to criticize players, but Lustig, Johansson and Armstrong’s first touch and passing range has been poor all season. Only my opinion. HH

8 years ago
Reply to  schoosh71

I think that they all tried their hardest. And that is the problem, they are just not good enough.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  schoosh71

You are spot on I have more or less being saying this all Season.
I think if Janko Brown Rogic and Mulgrew had been fit those 3 may have played less than they ave this Season.
This has been the issue our back up for these key men have been injured on the main.

8 years ago

I think any Celtic fan can handle defeat in any game where defeat has been deserved.
The problem at Celtic is the people running the club and the man they picked as manager/head coach.
I’ve heard every excuse and every fucking stat on here that backs Deila and the circus clown, Ambrose.
It isn’t being a wonderful Celtic supporter because you have your eyes wide shut, fingers in your ears and shouting lalala, you are watching the same Ambrose as me, the one who is being described as solid because he has ( for a few games ) not fucked up.
Deila keeps playing him, he deserves what is coming for that.
I have watched some poor defenders at Celtic in my time but Ambrose is the fucking worst by a mile.
As for Deila, I feel more hostility towards him than I did Mowbray, at least with Mowbray the end was clearly coming.
I want Deila out as soon as possible, it will be a happy day.
His tactics yesterday were the same used by McCoist, who was a joke figure to all supporters of all clubs, we don’t have a fucking clue.

Those of you who are still showing support for Ambrose and Deila?
Contact the NHS 24 helpline for advice.

corktim
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

well said monti how can anyone defend the manager,he got it wrong on all levels yesterday.His team selection was wrong,substitutes wrong,system all wrong this man is making us a laughing stock, how further do we have to fall before this bluffer is removed,how many times does he use the excuse we are weak,if he cant sort it out then leave him f…k off.

8 years ago
Reply to  corktim

Corktim,
The answer to that is quite simple, they don’t know football from their arse!

Brian53
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Tried the helpline but it was busy, hang up will you Monti! 🙂

The only stats that anyone should pay attention to is games won, trophies won.

The stats for yesterday’s game is an example, all Celtic for possession, shots, both on/off target but the only stat that mattered was 3-1 for Ross County.

The stats for Tony in 09-10 was zero.

The stats for Ronny 14-15 a league and league cup double.

This season the important stats are yet to be decided but we know it will not include the LC.

8 years ago
Reply to  Brian53

Stick your stats up your arse!

Brian53
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Finally got through to the helpline, they said “stats up your arse” is not fatal and that I should just speak to the pharmacist and stop wasting their time. He gave me some cream and told me not to read any more blogs after a defeat or I might not be so lucky next. Thank fuck they were small stats! 🙂

CeciltheLion
8 years ago
Reply to  Brian53

The statistics from yesterday hide the fact that we were downright shocking. Clueless and gutless. We’ve been the same all season despite winning more often than not. That’s not what I want from Celtic.

If we lost every game but showed quality, skill and passion, it’d be infinitely better than the dross served up under the current regime.

Bgbhoy
8 years ago

Deila post match in changing room- well done Scott you where excellent when you came on nearly changed the game for us…… That’ says it all

Uralius
8 years ago
Reply to  Bgbhoy

What else did he say? Was that it? I think he should have kicked a fucking boot at someone’s head! It should have been a hair-dryer moment for the complete lack of fight and guts. Then he should have apologized for bringing off the most important role in the team. Then finally he should have reminded every player in there that they are living the dream of Millions of Celtic fans and they dragged that dream through the gutter by their lack of fight.

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

Bg, I’m surprised he didn’t come away with the same bullshit that he spouted at Pittodrie.

8 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

No he said a lot more, but it was only Efe left in the dressing room listening to him, the rest of the players fucked off ten mins earlier!

CeciltheLion
8 years ago
Reply to  Bgbhoy

Fair scares the shit outta me.

Plumsaucesaurus
8 years ago

One positive from yesterday for me. Six Scots in the starting line-up and that was without Brown, Commons, Forrest or Mulgrew.

Ronny deserves some credit for bringing domestic players back into the fold.

Uralius
8 years ago

Aye, but he is about to replace 3 of them all with foreigners. Rather than figure out what makes them tick.

Uralius
8 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

Whilst missing out on 3 more domestic players we could’ve had.

Plumsaucesaurus
8 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

What are you on about?

Lennon signed precisely one Scot I can think of in Mulgrew and not many more than him from Scottish teams.

Ronny has at least made an effort to sign domestic players or domestic based players.

If you’re going to have a rant then at least back it up with salient facts.

Uralius
8 years ago

Aye ok,

He signed GMS and Armstrong and is trawling Belgium and Man City for wingers having already signed 1 and trying to get a second. The whole time he is looking for foreigners in those roles. I am still trying to think of the other Scottish players he has signed.

John Souttar should be wrapped up by now. He can play holding midfield/CB/RB

1 example.

Furthermore you are the one ranting at me for making a 1 sentence statement.

I would absolutely love our team to have more Scots, but Ronnie can only be credited with 2.

andybhoy
8 years ago

Lennon signed Griffiths, Commons, Mulgrew, Dylan McGeough.

andybhoy
8 years ago

& Tony Watt.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago

Spot on Plumb

deadhead67
8 years ago

domestic players are shite ,no more please

bgbhoy
8 years ago

your having a laugh??

Plumsaucesaurus
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

You’ve been tonguing Ambrose’s ringpiece on here for weeks. Care to comment on that?

Uralius
8 years ago

You mad bro?

I think we should remember that Ambrose did play well in 3 previous matches and that we only have 2 better options one of them arriving a little over a week ago. Who by the way played brilliantly under the circumstances.

bgbhoy
8 years ago

aye, he did what any other defender would, cant be helped, still better than boyata and co… not his fault we lost, its the manager… why was the ball allowed to get through int he first place?

bgbhoy
8 years ago

why would we want a team of scots that cannot perform? what use are a team of scots to anyone these days? when was the last time the national team qualified for a finals? i would happily have 11 orange man from mars if they brought us success…

gordon- average to decent
mulgrew-average
gms- average
armstrong-average
forrest-average to decent
brown- average to decent
allan- who knows he has no chance with ronny there
christie- see above
tierney- good at kicking the ball out the park or up the pitch

‘domestic’ players are all well and good if they have the ability? i wouldnt say were blessed with the first scottish side to win in europe since the 60’s would you?
cant even win a semi final against a club from a town with 6k people

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

They hang on to anything to try and give Deila some credence to the myth that the clueless one has the ability to reinvigorate a club that is quickly going in to meltdown.

8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

Come on. Tierney is a much better player that you are giving him credit for.

bgbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

RAYMOBHOY… if this is to be the future of our club then i am concerened!? im not saying hes a bad player but i dont see where everyone is getting excited… yes the bhoy can defend which should be his job, but is only 18 and should not be relied upon so heavily at this stage, ronny could end up being the end of his career rather than the start… i watched the boy yesterday and apart from 1 good run in the first half he wasnt great.. alot of balls along to ground into the box… he also needs to improve on stamina as he struggles to last 90mins… this is where i think ronny could burn him out before he has a chance to develop

Plumsaucesaurus
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

Biggest pile of pish ever posted on here and that’s saying something.

Could do a similar list full of foreign duds like Ciftci, Scepovic, Wakaso etc.

Away and crawl back up Efe’s arse.

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

You seem to have a very unhealthy fixation with Efe’s
bottom.
Can you have a pile of pish?
I would say it was physically impossible.

bgbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

would that be the same wakaso that was on 80k a week at his employer and was ‘the best player at the club’ according to several first team players.. couldnt play under ronny and had to leave early before he battered johnny?

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

Kazim Richards will probably knock fuck out of him within a fortnight.

bgbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

just heard that he looks like a unit… defenders will bounce off him… could be a decent signing

why did we sign carlton cole?

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

I’ve been asking that since we signed him.
Nobody can offer an explanation. 2 year deal ffs.

delbhoy
8 years ago

Ralph you have a pop at fans for having perfectly justified reasons to back up claims that ambrose is a bomb scare from the position of your high horse yet in the same paragraph have a go at john kennedy with no justification. How do you know what he does? So its all his fault but not the managers… double standards mate just like ronny with his treatment of players like stokes. Get the feeling stefan could come in with a baseball bat and batter the tea lady , then put it on twitter and still take his place doing hee haw for ninety minutes. We didnt have ten men yesterday we had nine with this imposter of a player from last year getting dominated from a class act like jackson irvine who wasnt good enough for us! By the way see watt scored again, goals everywhere he goes but he was shite because he didnt make sacrafices and drink his lemon water in the morning!. Small details aye there is two small details causing problems , ronny fucking delia and john collins!

Joe.Mac
8 years ago

1st time poster on here, love the diary but Ralph have to disagree with some points.

1 – Amrbrose DOES touch player no matter how slight, he gives the ref a decision to make and 9 times out of 10 you know what that is going to be!

2 – The blocking of Gordon, ok was a foul, we still had at least 2 chances(Bitton and Lustig) to clear the ball in the air before Ross County scored!

3 – I missed the game and the iplayer would only let me start 20 minutes in so missed a lot of the action. I could see about 5 minutes in that Griffiths was struggling big time! No matter how shit Ciftci has been I think he could have held the ball up and been a better focal point.

The pitch was heavy and as a team would do with an extra man a lot of the time County were just passing the ball from the back making our midfield run and run, even before half-time I could see weary legs!

Where is this fitness regime that Deila keeps going on about?

There is no leadership in the team, apart from Brown. There is NO WAY when he is out of the team that there is no-one to replace him and be able to drive the team on, which is a massive reason why we fold easily!

I could go on and on, at the end of the day we have come up VERY short in the big games this season. Ok we have sold our best players but we should at the very least have players coming through to replace them, Tierney and McGregor the only 2 who have come through I think is a disgrace for a team that seems to be winning the Under 20 leagues on a regular basis!

Morto
8 years ago

I don’t have time today to read everyone’s comments so apologies if this point has been made before.
The stats from the game show we had more shots and more shots on target that County even with 10 players.
So whilst it’s convenient to blame Efe you have to say County made a better job of their opportunities than we did.

Macca
8 years ago
Reply to  Morto

Morto, take time to read the comments. Stats show we lost 3-1. TV evidence shows we were crap (again). Performances on the park all season show we have a crap manager that needs to go

8 years ago
Reply to  Morto

Morto,
Are you of sound mind and body? Because you are talking shit, guv!

desdamoaner
8 years ago

you’re right about Boyata being the cause of a lot of the problems, the 2015 defensive version of Frank McGarvey, at least not knowing what he’ll do next is an advantage for a forward though.
Delia’s problem though is its the same mistakes for the last 18 months. 2 who don’t hold and 3 who don’t track back isn’t giving that defence much of a chance. We don’t have the players for that system, it should have been binned months ago.

Jocsoc
8 years ago

I agree with everything you wrote about McGregor and Biton. But Ronnie must accept the blame for the poor substitution decision. It’s at times like this that a manager shows his true worth and makes the right choices.
Does Ronnie really know his players? To my mind Biton is in the same mould as Ki Sung Yeung who was great to have in the team when we were on top, but when things got tough, a la v Rangers he was no where to be seen.Biton likes to play nice football, but tends to disappear when the skin and hair starts flying. He should have been withdrawn not McgGregor who always puts in a good shift. Poor decision Ronnie!

Spectrum is Green
8 years ago

How much more evidence is required before the Deila apologists accept that he is not the new messiah, just a clueless chancer.

I’m sick of seeing his blank, expressionless face when faced with another shamefully meek capitulation to another team we would normally expect to beat.

I’m seriously disillusioned with the direction the club is heading in. We’ve a joker in charge and we’re happy sign any waif or stray who’s cheap or available, and we’re told by the apologists that this joker ‘has a plan’ and we need to ‘give him time’. Plan my arse!

I see another serial misfit is on his way in, Colin ‘Kazim-Kazim’ Richards. WTF is going on?!

We need someone in charge who loves the club and has an obvious enthusiasm for the job. Someone who can get into the players what it really means to wear the hoops.

Owen Coyle would be worth a go.

Can’t be worse than Ronnie Dire, can he?

His time should be up.

KTF
8 years ago

Owen Coyle?? Jesus wept……

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago

Great post Ralph keep up the good work.

bgbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

jesus christ

8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

🙂
Hee hee hee
Just laugh at him bg, he’s the site jester lol

bgbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

charlie, what was the last game you where at if you dont mind me asking?

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

Is it relevant to your point?

bgbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

yes i would say so

if you go to the game you will see feel the non exsistent atmosphere… and the feelings of disgust at another wasted 30quid on a ticket, 20 quid travel and the rest… you say that if this didnt happen or this player wasnt injured it would be different? you seem to try everything possible to deflect away from the reality that this guy is a dud.. poor poor team he has created with a poor standard of football more often than not… for a guy who loves his stats you seem to hide from the cold hard facts on a regualr basis

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

You done?
I will judge the manager at the end of the Season.
That is the rational thing to do after all.
That dud has won 2 Leagues and 2 Cups in 2 Countries and I dare say he will win more in this given the time.
It’s all about expectation levels for me thanks to our Boards approach to Finance my expectation levels have had to be adjusted accordingly.
YOu get what you pay for in Football.
We spend like a mediocre Championship Club so therefore why would I expect us to be playing like a Champions League Club?
That to me makes no rational sense.
I do hide behind stats I merely present them to back up an argument.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

do not’

8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

Bgbhoy,
Just ignore him mate, he is a fucking idiot feeding off the hurt of real fans.

8 years ago

NURSE!!

8 years ago

” It’s ok to lose ” – Ronny Deila.

KTF
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Wouldn’t hold that particular quote against him cos it is OK to lose….if it means we’re seeing progress of course. That is a matter that is clearly up for serious debate……

maryhillbhoy
8 years ago

Ralph please, please, please, please stop with the Delia apologising. Regardless of the pitch the ref etc, etc that was Ross County out there I accept that under the circumstances we can lose the game but to be outplayed, and please spare me the meaningless statistics regarding possession and so forth, by them was not good enough. Can you hand on heart think of another manager in our league who with Delia’s advantages in terms of players and facilities couldn’t win the league. I am not demanding a treble, if we lost a close game at Tynecastle or Pittordrie fair enough but to be horsed at Hampden yet again is beyond the pale Ronnie Out Now!!!!!

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  maryhillbhoy

You sem to be under the impression our players are level wise way above anything else in our League?
That’s simply not true.
Look at where they came from ffs..

Gordon Un attached ex Hearts
Lustig from Rosenborg
Janko from Man Utd Youth Set up
Boyata Man City Youth set up
Ambrose from Ashdod
Mulgrew free from Aberdeen
Šimunović from Zagreb
Sviatchenko from Midtjylland
Izzy from Motagua
Brown from Hibs
Bitton from Ashdod
Armstrong
Mackay-Steven
Ciftci all Dundee Utd
Johansen from Stromgodset
Commons from Derby
Rogic from Central Coast Mariners
Allan from Hibs
Christie from Caley Thistle
Griffiths from Wolves via Hibs
Fuck sake we are not talking top drawer Clubs or players here we are talking above average at best.
When we are not at our best and we face a side who are upping their game because they are playing Celtic that gap in class soon shortens.

8 years ago
Reply to  maryhillbhoy

Maryhill,
Great post and spot on!

8 years ago

Ralph,
The wee dig at me in the Diary today about ” waiting on Ambrose to make a mistake ” is both inaccurate and completely unnecessary.
If you think I’m watching a Celtic match, waiting/hoping ANYONE in a Celtic shirt makes a mistake, then you are wrong in the strongest sense of the word.
The facts are Ambrose has cost the club on several occasions now and still get’s a fucking game, I can only imagine what Sir Alex or Brian Clough would have done with Ambrose.

The difference is Ralph, I know he will fuck up, I know he will ruin the occasion for the Celtic support, he keeps doing it!
All you and some others have to say is that ” he has been solid for a few games “? Who against? Hamilton? Dundee Utd?

You can kid some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time.
You and other apologists are insulting Celtic fans with your ” Efe is solid ” shite.

There was only one problem yesterday…the African nations cup winners actions!
Defend him if you like, but don’t sit and say I’m hoping he fucks it up for CELTIC!

celtsfan67
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Not sure why you have to mention two non ex celtic managers, I’m sure we’ve had some good ones of our own from the era you refer to.

Big Shuggy
8 years ago

Like quite a few on here i was thinking it was time for Ronny to go.I thought he got the subs all wrong with the pitch the state it was in and the conditions he should have taken Stevens,armstrong and Biton off for Broonie, eric the viking and cifti and get right fucking in to them.
As For Efe ( a lennon signing)The manager had to decide between Boyata just back from injury,Efe who had been playing well and Eric the viking who had just joined the club. If being honest most would have started with Efe.
As the dust has settled i have decided he has to get til the end of the season then it’s time for the board to sack or back him. Whoever they bring in though needs to be given cash for experieced players no more players with potential.

so we are out the league cup. i make it 113 times we have lost it then. not quite a meltdown now is it.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Big Shuggy

Spot on Shuggy.

8 years ago
Reply to  Big Shuggy

Pish!

Whoriskey
8 years ago

Is R.O.T.S. a thing now? Is there any treatment for Ronny Out Tourette’s Syndrome? It seems to be the view of the SMSM and you should know by now never to listen to them. It also stifles any serious debate about football when you hear it chanted over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. See, boringly repetitive. All these calls for people to be sacked, isn’t that what the Govan Sevco Wanderers do? I wonder what Angela thinks about people with R.O.T.S. deciding who should be sacked? The last stages of R.O.T.S. sees the sufferer believe the manager can tell the board what to do and manifests itself through manic 24 hour bouts of playing pretendy football games on their computers whilst believing it to be real. Prising them from their keyboards has proved futile. We are all doomed.

CeciltheLion
8 years ago
Reply to  Whoriskey

Don’t think many of s have any kind of disorder. We’re paying punters who’ve supported out club for decades and who’re aghast at what’s being done to it, especially in the last two seasons.

The evidence is there, week in and week out; unless we take a stand, it’ll be oblivion for the club before we’re much older.

8 years ago
Reply to  Whoriskey

Whoriskey,
What the fuck do you mean Tourettes? I don’t fucking have Tourettes? 🙂

Bgbhoy
8 years ago

We’re doomed for as long as this clown is in charge

8 years ago
Reply to  Bgbhoy

Bgbhoy,
We are getting worse, sack him now!

mike
8 years ago

The scouting dept.is a joke,Cifti going out on loan joins a long list of very expensive FAILURES players who cost the club MILLIONS.
The excuse for a ref.A SLEEKIT BASSA,allowed continuous holding and fowling,without punishment,i believe some of our players are being targeted.Having said all that,this side are as soft as shite.As good as Denayer and VanDyke were the current pair are pish,Johannson and Bitton flatter to deceive and there is no doubt we need to stiffen up the midfield,get Mulgrew and Brown back ASAP.

Scottish players like Soutter and McGinn from Hibs are the future get them in FFS to strenghen the midfield.
AM not going to comment on the Management, team fucking clueless,i believe they have cleared out the auld timers from the backroom staff and brought in 4/5 Norwegians says it fucking all.

CeciltheLion
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

If Mulgrew’s the answer, the question’s wrong. He needs to be punted in double quick time, imo.

mike
8 years ago
Reply to  CeciltheLion

Never said Mulgrew was the answer,but we need to stiffen the midfield now,or we are going to lose the league this season.

8 years ago
Reply to  mike

Aye ye did!

mike
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

AWE NAW A DIDNY WHO WOULD YOU PUT IN PLACE NOW

EFE as defensive midfielder,you seem to watch him a lot or maybe TERRYS AULD GOLD?

8 years ago
Reply to  mike

Nothing to do with the ref, nothing!
To suggest it was is fucking embarrassing!

mike
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Well i am not fucking embarrassed,he is a sleekit prick i am only embarrassed with his display.
I think that Mcintyre sent his team out to foul,pull back, hold onto Gordon and obstruct him and it worked and i believe
that he is not the only manager doing that.
I am also embarrassed that our players and manager cannot cope with that.
Maybe you should buy a pair of specs.and take your eyes of just ambrose.Look around and watch the whole of the match.

elcormaco
8 years ago

Watching Celtic play lately I’m really not convinced our players are playing for the manager.

For purely football reasons I m not a huge fan of Commons (slow) or Stokes (over complicates it) but they both showed a bit of passion and fight, and that they don’t like not being able to help the team

What happens – Commons given a pass and back in the side, to no particular effect, apart from a beauty of goal a couple of weeks ago, and Stokes sent away to Hibs. Meanwhile our nice passive players get a game regardless of how out of form they are, how little passion they show, how little “bite” they have – I’ve said it time and again – we are a nice team to play against as we stand off and let teams play. I personally think some players have chucked it. Going through the motions until the next guy comes in.

Meanwhile our new signings that get a game are uniformly terrible: I d like to give Boyata a bit more time but he doesn’t look good, and of the rest, Ciftci was never going to be good enough, the keeper, Bailly(?) never plays either, Christie is only coming in, but wont play and Allan never gets out on the pitch given we have approximately 50% of all midfielders in Scottish football on our books. Janko I hope is injured as he’s vanished. We have a massive squad and I m struggling to think of many players you would want to see in the team next season.

And now we bring in Roberts, who very well may a good player, but another midfielder!? On loan!?

Oh FFS. So we develop this guy for 18 months at which time Man City either take him back or punt him on at a price we’ll never get close to paying, on wages we’ll never pay. And Kazim Richards, who has done precisely nothing so far in his football career to make us believe he is going to be the answer to anything except possibly the surplus of “Z” s in the club shop. So what about our own players – Allan, Ritchie, Henderson etc who now have to contend for a place with another guy who we know isn’t here for the long haul and offers no prospect of any re sale value.

Get Steve Clarke in if possible – he might not be he most glamorous or exciting coach, but if he can put a defence together we have enough quality in the rest of the team – still – to be able to do well at least in Scotland and look like a team going somewhere. Build a solid foundation again, forget these f**king moonbeams about a super fit team dominating the possession against Barcelona etc, that’s only going to happen on FIFA with the settings on easy. Thank Ronnie for all his efforts, invite him back to flag day (if we have one next season) but stop wishing our team and players careers away on “jam tomorrow” promises.

deadhead67
8 years ago
Reply to  elcormaco

commons by a mile our best player,pity delia hates him
but loves johansen,funny that our 2 biggest victories were when Johansen was missing .6-0 dundee.8-1 hamilton,we really missed rogic ,the complete midfielder,hope he is fit for weds

Joe.Mac
8 years ago

I think Celtic Fans can accept defeat if the team goes down fighting! Yesterday though……

Spectrum is Green
8 years ago

The meek shall inherit the earth.

But before they do, they play for Ronny Dire’s Celtic!

8 years ago

Blessed are the meek…blessed are the cheesemakers…

Jehovah Jehovah Jehovah!

Bongo
8 years ago

HOW MUCH WERE YOU PAID FOR THAT CRAP TODAY.

EFE NOT TO BLAME AS HE IS EFE AND DOESNT PICK HIMSELF. THE MANAGER IS TO BLAME – BUYS A NEW CETRE HALF FOR £1.5M AND PUTS HIM ON THE BENCH. DOESNT HAVE A CLUE HOW TO PICK A TEAM.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Bongo

He isn’t 100% fit his Season ended weeks ago.
That’s why he is paid to Manages and you talk shite on a Forum with the rest of us bud.

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