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Celtic v Ajax – Man by Man!

Thanks to  Scoobs aka Enda for this contribution

Celtic v Ajax – Man by Man (and are they good enough?)

A man-by-man assessment of the starting eleven from last night with the added question of ‘are they good enough?’  at this level. Or are we kidding ourselves on.

 

Fraser Forster – Once again the Englishman was arguably the difference in winning the game for Celtic. He smothered the effort of Serero with the game delicately balanced in Celtic’s favour and soon after the Hoops doubled their advantage. That aside, despite the protestation of the Ajax manager, Forster was underworked.

Is he good enough? Unquestionably yes. Forster has grown immeasurably since joining from Newcastle’s reserves. He is prone to the odd lapse during domestic action but he can consider himself a victim of circumstance there. In the cauldron of the Champions League, Forster consistently performs mini-heroics. Celtic will do well to hold on to him.

 

Mikael Lustig – Another solid night for the dependable Swede. He offered assistance to Forrest going forward, got his crosses in and defended with the kind of solidity we are coming to expect.

Is he good enough? A theme that will run across the backline, Lustig is part of a functioning Celtic defence. With memories of ‘The Sieve’ not yet gone, that is in itself an achievement. Good enough to do his job without attracting the hawks of a transfer to England, this is the type of player Celtic should covet.

 

Emilio Izzaguirre – A much improved night for a man who now flatters to deceive quite often. Ajax were content to retain possession in front of Celtic and this contributed to a relatively straightforward night for our full backs who were also getting decent protection from the midfield. His crossing remains a worry but that perhaps is down to a lack of aerial threat to aim at. Tries hard going forward and clearly relishes the Champions League nights.

Is he good enough? Pass marks once again for Emilio, but gone are the days when we had to consider our options if the likes of Man United put an offer on the table. Seems a far cry now that they might have offered close to 10 million pounds for his services. Prone to being out of position due to a penchant for getting to the opposition byline; that’s an occupational hazard.  He still belongs at this level. Just.

 

Virgil van Dijk – Continues to impress. His partnership with Ambrose is flourishing with each passing game and both men retain a coolness in possession that Gary Caldwell could only try to tell you he had. Typical Dutch, van Dijk seems to know instinctively when to punt it clear and when he has, or can create, time and space on the ball.

Is he good enough? That night in Kazakhstan you’d have laughed at the suggestion, but van Dijk already looks a clever piece of business by Neil Lennon and his backroom team. He is assured in what he does and young enough to continue on an upward curve. The best compliment I can pay him right now is that of the three ‘key men’ we lost in the summer, Kelvin Wilson is missed the least. If anything, we’ve upgraded.

 

Efe Ambrose – Alongside his Dutch partner, Ambrose is beginning to look like one half of the central defensive partnership we have been craving since Mjallby, Balde and company departed the scene (Bobo didn’t quite depart as linger forever but he didn’t create the contract!). Ambrose also has a tasty knack of dribbling the ball well beyond the half way line at times and this can create havoc against opposition expecting a simple pass to a full back.

Is he good enough? Forgetting his nightmarish Juve experience when Lennon chose to put him on the field still carrying his boarding pass, Ambrose has been a revelation. Like Lustig, we should hope he stays under the radar of potential suitors and be glad we have him. A central defender is only as good as the partner he can trust. This looks promising.

 

Beram Kayal – Considering how little game-time he has enjoyed, Kayal was heroic. His confidence visibly grew following the wonder strike that made it 2-0 to the good guys. The wee spin away from his man in the centre circle, drive forward and stinging shot after the hour mark I don’t believe would have happened before his goal. Let’s hope he can build on it.

Is he good enough? On his day, undoubtedly, but getting him on it remains the problem. Injuries, loss of form and Victor Wanyama have ensured Kayal’s promising Celtic career stalled somewhat. He clearly has the talent. Lennon must find some way of coaxing out the determination and hard work to bring it out of him consistently. A managerial “project” if ever there was one.

Charlie Mulgrew – the usual from Charlie. Hard work and application but always that ‘yard off the pace’ at this level. His set pieces remain his most potent weapon and he won’t let anyone down but the feeling persists that he is a sitting duck in the Champions League. Things slow down when Charlie gets the ball.

Is he good enough? If we are to become the consistent Champions League team we long to be, then no. Mulgrew is lacking, especially as a midfielder, at this level. He almost always seems rushed in possession and often concedes the ball back. As a unit in midfield, he weakens the chain. A useful squad man, and capable of a shift in the Champions League, but long term we must seek more.

 

James Forrest – His penalty was fabulous given the antics of the Ajax delegation beforehand. As noted in The Diary, that he stayed injury free while all that went on was a relief in itself. Forrest always posed a threat to Ajax when he got the ball. Adding goals – not just from 12 yards – to his repertoire is helping young James progress nicely.

Is he good enough? For me the jury was always out on Forrest. Seems to be injured more often than not and I couldn’t really see what he was bringing to the party. Or at least I couldn’t see enough of it. Last night in the second half he picked up the ball, ran at his full back, Blind, and took about five yards out of him over 20 yards to cross into a dangerous area. In that moment the penny fell. He is a talent. A precocious one right now, but we need to nurture him along and let him grow. Exciting prospect.

 

Georgios Samaras – I’m with The Diary on the Greek. One of those nights I thought where he failed to impress. Running with the blinkers on most times (never more so than when he ran straight over the sideline!). Despite it all, he ghosts past his man and into the box to create the second goal. That’s the thing with Sammy…you just never know.

Is he good enough? No. Yes. No. Yes. Maybe. Oh Lord you frustrating man. Right now, Sammy is on the crest of a good PR wave. Pundits have decided he is exciting because you never know what he will do. Champions League opposition have decided they had better take caution in case he does something great. It’s getting harder therefore for him to be creative as teams double up but he is still trying. Probably unfair comparing anyone to Larsson, but remember how he used to pick the ball up out wide, run at a man and essentially  “win” a free for the team. Dangerous position and a chance to regroup. Sammy just seems to run into them. He will never be Henrik Larsson, but he’s doing just fine.

 

Teemu Pukki – got on the ball, twisted and turned quite a bit in central positions and tried to bring full backs and wingers into play. Aside from swinging a boot at Lustig’s first half cross though he didn’t worry the Ajax keeper. Short on evidence but he doesn’t seem blessed with much pace.

Is he good enough? It’s too early to say of course, and the man deserves a chance to prove himself. This isn’t a personal criticism but overall last night in the final third, Celtic just didn’t carry enough threat. It is the toughest commodity to find in football of course, goals, but you get a gut feeling when a team at least poses the threat of finding the net. Replacing Hooper is Lennon’s biggest challenge and may require Lawwell’s biggest cheque. This is the Champions League – we aren’t f**kin about now! This problem relates to us becoming a regular at the party, season in season out.

 

Anthony Stokes – Like Pukki, pace is not his friend. Stokes has stepped up admirably since Hooper left the building. His late surge put Karagandy out and his ‘game-awareness’ allowed him invite that tackle on last night to win the penalty. The question mark hanging over the Celtic forward line this morning must be, had the penalty not come when it did, what would the final outcome have been?

Stokes is certainly trying to grasp his chance, but it is doubtful that he will ever possess that cutting edge to find himself scoring goals regularly in the group stage of the Champions League.

Is he good enough? That last statement is the crux of the argument. Where does the Celtic manager truly believe goals will come from in Europe? If we play 3 more group games this season and 6 next term, do any of us see the current strikers hitting four or five goals in open play?

The main ingredient missing is Hooper’s pace. He was the differential. He also had the striking talent of shooting on site. Sometimes to the detriment of the team but overall that’s what a potent goalscorer does. In Stokes, Pukki and Balde, something is missing.

 

In summary –

Lennon needs assistance. Sure the squad is stretched and we can look to welcome back Commons, Brown, Ledley, Matthews and Boerrigter. None of them will solve the deficiency in the final third.

Lennon’s tactics and organization – as well as the players willingness to carry them out – mean we now pose a credible threat away from home. We are not cannon fodder any longer. On that basis along the Celtic boss deserves the board’s backing as he tries to locate the fabled ‘blue chip’ striker.  That little bit of quality is the key piece missing in what is otherwise a very pleasing jigsaw for those of us partial to a pair of green tinted glasses.

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Gary Campbell
10 years ago

Rarely do I agree with every word of such a piece but shock of shocks this one I do. Nice 1 Hail

John Glancy
10 years ago
Reply to  Gary Campbell

I have to agree 100% with this man on man assessment you have it spot on we are missing a born goalscorer and Lennon knows this hopefully in the january transfer window a fine goal poaching type player will be signed and i truelly beleive we will have a squad capable of performing consistantly at this level just look at the Milan game if we spent an extra couple of mill on a striker we would have won that game without a doubt…Hail Hail 🙂

Scoobs
10 years ago
Reply to  Gary Campbell

Thanks Gary. HH.

10 years ago

This is an excellent and unbiased account of Celtic FC and their players. This is one man’s opinion but one that will be shared by the vast majority of Celtic fans. The only point I would disagree with is the verdict on Samaras, who I think is better than the description given but again, that is only my opinion. The lack of firepower upfront holds things up elsewhere on the park, slowing us down thus enabling the opposing side to regroup. All in all, a very fair assessment and a brilliant read.

10 years ago

Scoobs/Enda, can I put this on West London CSC’s FB Page?

Scoobs
10 years ago
Reply to  Desi Mond

Absolutely, knock yourself out!

Chris
10 years ago

My opinion is that we have a disconnect between the way we attack and the strikers we have at our disposal.

We rarely if ever go through the middle with slide rule passes. All of,our attacks come down the wings with crosses coming in 9 times out of ten from our full backs.

We don’t have strikers who attack the ball in the 6 yard box. In Pukki and a Stokes we have clever players who want to play off the shoulder.

We either need to change our strikers towards target men or find a creative central midfielder who can cut open a defence with a through ball. Oh for a Lubo or a Paul Mcstay.

Bradley
10 years ago
Reply to  Chris

Couldn’t agree more Chris.

99% of the time our chances come from crosses from out wide or set plays, yet we seem to persist in playing Stokes and Pukki (who are more attacking midfielders, or atleast deep lying forwards, than real goalscoring strikers).

Lennon should atleast give Balde a real chance I reckon. Not because he is a great player (because I genuinely don’t think he is) but because it would suit our playing style far more than our current strikers who consistently have shown that they cant perform at the highest level, based on our current attacking style.

Paddy O´Doors
10 years ago

Also a winger that could put a decent cross in would help … thats what infuriates me about James Forrest … pace to beat his man but then the cross … hardly ever hits his man … so if you can not go out wide you have to do as Chris says and go through the middle … could Tom Rogic be the answer ? Commons and Stokes for me are link up strikers at this level … Stokes will score for fun at the SPL or SFAPL or whatever its called these days .. but in Europe and also Internationally … can´t see him being a prolific marksman … Pukki has a lovely touch and holds it up plays others in .. but again not a “number 9” a link up striker at best … unfortunately the number 9´s Cardoso .. Jackson Martinez .. Falcão etc (can ya tell I live in Portugal ??) all cost bucketloads that we can not unfortuntely pay … if we were in the Las Vegas league or the SKY premiership dahn sarf then with the ooodles of extra cash then .. maybe yeah we could get a decent Champs League striker … but unfortunately we are not at level 3 yet alone level 1 … so we can only do what we can do … bargain buys unfortunately because thats the market that we have to shop in … the UK work permit thing screws us as well !! Sporting have just signed a real monster of a striker for about 4 million euro Freddy Montero from Colombia … watch out for him in future Colombian teams …but as he was signed from Seattle Sounders and not a international .. Celtic even if they wanted could never get him .. as he would not have got a permit … hell even Vic needed two bites of the cherry to get his !!!!

Da Do Ron Ron
10 years ago

I agree to a point. I still think Sammy is the best player at the club at this level. I’m done arguing about it though. As for Charlie Mulgrew. I never had him down as a midfielder but at Centre Half I’ve seen few better and he would trump Ambrose in my selection anyday. His delivery from the back is excellent and I can’t understand why he isn’t Virgils partner.

Steveo
10 years ago

Yes fairly perceptive article on what we have at our disposal. Several observations though – Sammi has come onto a game admittedly didnt have his most enthralling performance last night but teams now double & triple up against him as Ajax did last night.
Stokes & Pukki on evidence so far are too similar both are quite happy to do their work outside the penalty area & both are very skillful but dont have oodles of pace. Difference with Hooper was he was a penalty box striker who had a phenomenal burst of speed over 20/30 yards. If Stokes or Pukki concentrate on the box they’ll get more goals but last nights game plan was to close Ajax down from the front which meant both were harrying everything in an Ajax shirt & it worked.
Mulgrew is in the team for his delivery at set pieces end of – he wont be VVD partner at the back because he lacks pace at this level – that said this year we’ve not had anything like the threat from set plays that we did last year so teams are switching onto our deliveries & we need to mix it up much more. Even domestically we arent scoring the goals from set plays that we should be.

Scoobs
10 years ago
Reply to  Steveo

We certainly dont seem to pose as much threat from set plays right now. We arent posing much threat full stop.
Agree largely on Sammi the Greek. He was, is and forever shall be very frustrating. But he so capable at this level. Doing just fine for me.

CarlJungleBhoy
10 years ago

Good stuff. Only point I’d like to make is on the issue of an out & out Number 9/ front man. I agree that – for Celtic – the departure of Hooper and absence of a similarly styled replacement (Finnboggason is/was the closest viable comparison but we’ve missed our chance there) has dramatically reduced our goal scoring threat.

However, I’m sure it hasn’t escaped your notice that – following on from Barca – more & more top clubs appear to be quite happy playing without a recognised # 9. Chelsea, Milan, Real…..

It’s a question of balance/personnel. If you have 2 or 3 attackers with the goal-scoring/killer instinct who regularly get into the box at pace – then you don’t need a real front-man as such.

Scoobs
10 years ago
Reply to  CarlJungleBhoy

Those top clubs are going to be playing with a large share of possession though. Thats the key difference for us in Europe. We have to make the most of the ball when we get it.
Stokes, Pukki and Sammi werent really getting into the box at pace at all on Tuesday.

Id be happy to recognise Torres, Balotelli or Benzema as a #9 at CP any time soon btw 😉

CarlJungleBhoy
10 years ago
Reply to  Scoobs

Nah. You’re setting your sights too low there – Benzema is shit.
Seriously I know what you mean, ‘though. Best we can hope for is finding a miracle bargain a la Henke Larsson, (now that’s what I call a striker!, or maybe even getting Hooper back.

Raymobhoy
10 years ago

I think the unpredictability from Sammy comes from the fact that even he doesnt know what he’s gong to do next.
Pukki looks like another in the long list of strikers wko came, done nothing and then left im afraid.
I thought the main difference between the teams was that we gave Ajax plenty of space to move forward and play neat triangles where on the other hand Sammy and Forrest were boxed into cul-de-sacs with little or no support.
What helped us, was that Ajax were mostly young lads that we could outmuscle and they seemed to be lacking a finisher (a bit like us).

i think in a fortnights time we should definately use our strength and put more pressure on them at the back.

Bradley
10 years ago

Fantastic piece Scoobs, couldn’t agree more.

Samaras is easily Celtic’s best attacking threat to big European teams due to his height, pace and ability to run at defences. He is the only one who has the ability and balls to dribble with the ball and create space for his teammates. Although I agree he is extremely frustrating at times and his decision making is questionable at best, emphasised none more so than in the last two home European games in which the blinders were on more often than not.

Also, one of the few Celtic fans I’ve heard who isn’t totally obsessed with the averageness of Tony Stokes. He does ‘ok’ against journeymen teams like Hibs or Ross County, but at Champions League level he just doesn’t cut it. This is emphasised more by the fact that his style of play is the polar opposite of a counter attacking system that Celtic are forced to play in most if not all of our European encounters. He lacks the pace and real poacher instinct to capitalise on Celtic’s already limited chances of counter attacking in these big games. Celtic need an out and out goalscorer who stands on the shoulder of the last defender ready to pounce on opportunities, or atleast have a striker willing to attack crosses into the box.

I haven’t seen much of Amido Balde but what I have looks quite disappointing for the money we have paid, but surely he is more of a threat in these type of games than Stokes or Pukki, especially with his clear height and strength which would no doubt suit Celtic’s attacking style more – which has manifested into crosses into the box from wide and set piece opportunities.

Give the big man a chance atleast and see how it pans out. Lennon has given Pukki more than his fair share of chances in comparison and he quite frankly doesn’t look good enough at this stage – how long do we have to wait when we have another striker on the bench, who would in theory suit our style far more effectively.

10 years ago

Desi

Excellent piece. Whether one agrees or not it is obvious you have given the most serious consideration to the current standard of Celtic player and performances. I hardly ever see a game and it would be unfair to compare my impressions with anyone who attends regularly. Even a wall to wall screen could not do justice to the whole picture. I will not be so presumptuous, therefore, as to try to compete.

I will make just two comments. The first is regards Sammy. For those that remember, he is reminiscent, for me anyway, of Big Yogi. One game he could bomb down a wing taking on and often beating everything in front of him and put a hole the size of a bomb crater in the net with his shooting. On another day, he simply bombed, like the day he fired his shot at goals right out of the Arbroath Stadium into the North Sea. However, like Sammy, he could be ultra-exciting to watch when on his game and was often the key player in games. The choice is really whether you want Sammy the intermittent genius now and then or Sammy the frustrating dodo never. I personally think characters like him are such a rarity in today’s “high flying” game it is worth having him. To go even further back, the brilliance of Willie Fernie was not infrequently marred by his habit of running so fast down the left wing, he had to be buffered by fans in the terraces (a bit exaggerated but it was how fans used to describe his crazy runs when he dribbled his way right over the byline and beyond). We have to accept that the real geniuses like Kenny, Henrick or Wee Jinky are the exception. The regular guys, and who would deny Sammy is a regular guy, in any business can only turn it on now and then. Thus let it be with Sammy. And he is Celtic daft. To me that is a major factor.

My second point relates to our overall team performances. Our current form still comes across as from a team in the making. Yes, there are one or two such as Virgil Van Dijk who seem to have found their very specific role and are quite settled in it. For the most part, however, I get the uncomfortable feeling the rest are in a state of flux with regard to either their best position or the fulfillment of their potential. I class James Forrest, Efe, Adam Mathews, Pukki and even big Forster (my biggest worry is he gets picked for England. Often the beginning of the end for keepers) as developing players and as such are still really potentially unknown quantities. Mulgrew, Kyall, Stokes and even Kris Commons do not seem to have a consistent position, not in the sense of where they are picked but in the role they play. I get the feeling we have either a hell of a lot to come (with the proviso we can hold on to top key players) or we are achieving way beyond our capability. Fingers crossed it is the former. And I would have little worry about my impressions. Head back on an armchair is not the best position from which to make realistic judgements.

Thanks for a first class summation, Desi.

PS Also thanks to those who gave me moral support and encouragement yesterday. I hope that is the end of the matter.

H H

deekbhoy
10 years ago

Good summary especially agree with the assessment of Charlie.

I thought it was just me but on Tuesday and in IMO. In most of first half was closer to Foster at cleArances than the midfield. Talk of him and Kayal ‘bossing’ the midfield on some fan sites had me thinking was I at another game.

Charlie is good at dead balls and the occasional diagonal but lacks the footballing brain and skills for midfield at this level.Sorry Chas love you as player but not in midfield.

Mike Bhoyle
10 years ago

Good job we don’t see things the same..or it would be boring.
In the main I agree with your assessments…but there are two I think you’ve got totally wrong.
Forrest…penalty and one run past a defender apart…was a waste of a jersey…and why people continue to protect him amazes me.The hype he carries is not remotely matched by his performances.
As for Charlie…I thought he was terrific.
Only my opinion of course.
Ave ave.

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