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Celtic Diary Wednesday December 2: The Story So Far

Or it might not be.

 

Events are moving at such pace behind the scenes at Celtic Park that its difficult to keep up with them .

 

If you think supporters could reasonably be accused of panty wetting at the current turmoil., spare a thought for the poor sod who has to dry out the seats and carpets in the boardroom after the latest panic stricken meetings.

 

 

As the team lurches from crisis to crisis on the field, the board have been shaken out of an almost decade long stupor and suddenly have to earn their shillings, and they’re not proving to be value for money.

 

As per his wont when things go wrong, Dermot Desmond opened his Book of Irish Managers and got Roy Keane and Martin O’Neill out of retirement to try to stop the rot, at least until the end of the season, and having secured their assent, then decided he would tell long time servant Neil Lennon that it was time for him to go.

 

However, a horrified Peter Lawwell isn’t ready to give up the managers job yet, or the Director of Football post, which he de facto holds in what seems like perpetuity, and so with any decision by the board having to be unanimous, he vetoed the idea of Keane, as the outspoken former player would want little concessions, such as Lawwell keeping his fucking nose out or getting it spread out. 

 

Keane didn’t actually say that, but you get the feeling he thinks along those lines.

 

 

So, Lennon kept his job for the Ross County game, as the board decided to support him as they couldn’t agree on anyone else.

 

Not publicly, of course, not one of them had the balls to come out and support him publicly, they hing Lennon out to tell us that he;d had a phone call and the board still thought he was the man for the job, meaning they wouldn’t have to face any difficult questions.

 

One can certainly argue a section of the support have treated Lennon disgracefully, but for the board to use him as a human shield is unforgivable.

 

 

We all know what happened against County, and we’ll come to the players and the reasons for their attitudes shortly, and so in the wake of yet another piss poor performance and result,  Lawwell decided he wanted change, but couldn’t think of anyone to replace Lennon.

 

Except, of course, the guy he’s been grooming for the job since his playing career ended.

 

John Kennedy was set to take over as interim manager, right up until the moment the votes were counted up after the meeting to discuss it.

 

Apparently, they all said Aye, except for the one sent in postally from Barbados, which said “Go fuck Yourself ” , which hints that at least one member had his doubts.

 

 

So, Lawwell blocks Desmond from getting his man, and Desmond blocks Lawwell from getting his.

 

That suggests a compromise candidate should be put forward, but no one available fits the bill, so we’re left with Neil Lennon, who battles on without the support of either Lawwell or Desmond, and with the players and coaching staff moving further away from him with each passing moment.

 

 

With the mythical ten in a row at stake, the supporters have also turned on Lennon, who right now must feel a little bit lonely and quite possibly a bit miffed at how things have turned out.

 

His biggest failing this season, in my eyes, has been to trust players who don’t want to be there.

 

And therein lies the solution.

 

Each and every one of the loannees must be sent back whence they came in January.

 

Yes, even Laxalt. As good as he is, and he is good, the defence, already fragile, has collapsed since he arrived. Every game is a handicap event.

 

Elyannoussi -forget it. the mentality is all wrong.

 

Duffy-the heart is willing, and for him its the exact opposite of Elyannoussi. He’s trying too hard. That wont change unless he calms down, and thats not his nature or his style.

 

Right player, wrong year.

 

Then there’s the core problem, the regulars, the MacGregors, the Christies, the Rogics and the French contingent.

 

They don’t want to be here.

 

That was known twelve months ago.

 

The two Scots have seen the love and care shown to Keiran Tierney and his bank balance, and crucially, so have their families, and they want some of that.

 

There will be others under similar pressure, long term injuries, lack of care and attention from the club is a frequent issue at Celtic, and one wonders how long it will be before even James Forrest has his head turned.

 

Turnbull, Soro, Klimala and Ajeti were all bought to replace these guys, and somewhere down the line, probably due to Covid, the regeneration stalled.

 

That meant we were stuck with not only the players who no longer had the heart for the club, but also their replacements.

 

 

So, in fact, the board, now accused of a lack of forward planning, had actually planned for the season under normal circumstances, but its all gone a bit off track.

 

 

We have a group of players. selected for their experience and ability, not performing simply because they are marking time, and a group behind them disgruntled because they aren’t getting what they promised.

 

Which, of course, means there is an easy solution, but one that requires courage.

 

Well, at the moment there’s nothing, so there’s nothing to lose.

 

Play players who want to play, in positions they want to play in.

 

That alone will bring back at least some will for the fight.

 

Those who don’t want to be here can go, and that should change the work day atmosphere at Lennoxtown.

 

 

It’s not too late yet, but if the rot continues to bed in, it won’t be long before it is.

 

 

 

footnote;

 

If you are curious about the relationship between Lawwell and Desmond, and how it affects the club, there’s an excellent article on here, “When Hindsight Doesn’t Have 2020 Vision “, thats worth another look, certainly in the context of recent events.

 

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Monti
2 years ago

Gene Wilder & Richard Pryor

BornCelt!
2 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Please, it hurts more when I laugh! HH!

JOHN DUNN
2 years ago

I t6otally agree, I thought we should have done it at the start of the season, its not just the likes of your soros, turnbull and ajetis we have a wealth of young talent who should be getting introduced to the first team too like connell, dembele, robertson and welsh and the list goes on…..If we do that does lennon get until the end of the season.

Monti
2 years ago
Reply to  JOHN DUNN

I wouldn’t give him until the end of today, he is not a Celtic manager.
We are in December, we are out of three tournaments, being humiliated by Ross fvkn county at home?
It’s way past being funny now!

John Dunn
2 years ago
Reply to  Monti

My instincts are for Lennon to be removed as well but I am not also convinced that is what the problem is… Is it the want always or is it the coaching staff or maybe interference from Lawell or is it Lennon, I would be gutted if we sacked him and find out 2 years later that the problem was not him but one of the others and they remained to continue the rot..!!

BornCelt!
2 years ago
Reply to  John Dunn

Agreed. I feel if Lawwell had backed up his support for Lenny who he obviously trusted for the job, things would be better, but too late now baby. HH!

Monti
2 years ago
Reply to  John Dunn

John,
Lennon isn’t solely to blame i get that, i’d ask you to do this though, take a look at a picture of the Celtic first team squad & tell me how a team can’t be made out of that lot?
He needs to go m8

Monti
2 years ago

There is no turning back now for DD & PL, i feel no connection whatsoever with the board & if i write down what i’m feeling just now i’d be arrested.
I was 23 year old when the old board was removed in ’94, i watched that unfold, was at the games when our own fans were fighting each other, i watched & learned about what was happening to my club, i seen the passion in the men & women & kids had for Celtic football club.
I was there when Billy McNeill was sacked & he held my hand in a defiant message to the support & he said ” keep going, keep backing the team ” i was in awe of this great man & couldn’t believe my hand was in his.
Anyway my point was to be this, i feel those bad feelings towards the board coming through again, only this time i feel worse, don’t know why exactly but it is worse.
The board are ” backing ” this manager who is fucking useless, inept & way out his depth, i am fucking sick of it, the results & performances are fucking shocking, based on that alone he should be fucking gone.
No sympathy, no empathy, just fuck off Lennon!
This board will not get another fucking penny out of me until Lawwell is gone.
I have had enough, it is making me fucking ill!

Frodshambhoy
2 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Oops clicked on this to mark it up. Likes reduced from 2 to 1. Sorry. I posted ages ago about voting/liking not working. I use an iPhone.
Anyone have any ideas how to fix this.

Stessano
2 years ago
Reply to  Frodshambhoy

Typho city again urrrgh! Celtic big part of our lives a meant

BornCelt!
2 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Take a breath, forget the pish coming through the PR, they know what is going on and the next two games might just have supporters, genuine Celtic support kicking off, I am no insulting our support who will no be there. Without the fans…HH!

Stessano
2 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Nailed it monti! Exactly how I and my brother and mates all feel and we realCeltic men no frsud like the ” icon legend ” manager! Aye right! Never a Celtic man in his life play for us and became one to an extent but we made this guy a multi millionaire! Nicholas that a fanny at ti es was right! Danny McGrain, Paul Mcstay ,Tommy Burns even tho less talented Peter Grant and goes without saying Big Billy could go on but I cringe when I hear that piss in regard this manager or should I say fraud of one! Should never been back , tried to work his ticket off the bar a result tho look the disasters in the cups and bottling of league title in 2011 .The truth is Ridgers showed what a Cektic manager should be achieving! Lennon was being set up for thos job while Rodgers was there he as Rodgers even mentioned it once plus in the ” athetic ” article so does desmond. Sadly they thought they could bring him back and oversee the Rodgers professionalism but life doesnt work thst way and its astonsong a guy like desmond does see that with his success! Crltic such big part of our lives this is killing us ! Dont want to watch games with him being there what a situation!

Mike
2 years ago

Well said, I think we all know that the playing side of the club is dysfunctional and is being badly run and WHO is the real culprit for that. Good to see the Diary back, missed it. On a more personal front I am having these wicked dreams about Ursala Van Der Leyen, last night she ravished me and made me regurgitate a mackeral, this morning i have a fishy taste in my mouth, could you recommend anything to take for it?

Monti
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike

A cock!

Mike
2 years ago
Reply to  Monti

A Doodle Doo.

john67
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike

quality time with the missus

Mike
2 years ago
Reply to  john67

I’m a lucky fella,
Ah just gotta tell her,
that I love her endlessly,
Oh, but love goes,
Where my Ursala goes,
and nobody nose like me…

Monti
2 years ago

So the board at Celtic are happy to go with a guy who has won two games in ten, conceding 21 goals, who has us knocked out of two european tournaments before December?
Scraping at best past SPFL diddy’s & being knocked out the league cup at home to sheep fiddling tractor drivers?
We are a laughing stock, an embarrassment, the support has ploughed record amounts of money into the club with no prospect of going to games, we buy merchandise from the club, we CAN’T do any more for Celtic.
We are taken for granted by the board because we love our club, even the clubs Christmas video misses an opportunity again to raise awareness of child poverty & those in need but they didn’t miss the bit that encourages you into the superstore tho.

I have no confidence in the board, i want them all to fuck off & take Lennon & his fellow jokers in the dug out with him.
He thinks he can turn things around apparently, had positive talks with the players he said….did ye aye? so pray tell us how you are going to get the team playing like a proper Celtic team then?
What is it you are going to do when you have just been schooled by Fabio Roberto Kettlewell?
You are fucking useless…NOW PLEASE FUCKING GO!

2 years ago
Reply to  Monti

I feel the pain and am in shock at how the team has deteriorated so rapidly in such a short time after some really good displays at the back end of the shortened season. But correct me if I am wrong Monti, I’ve always had you down as a fervent supporter of Neil Lennon(as I myself have been) and quite surprised how you have become so hostile to him, I know that no individual is not as great as the team and his performance certainly warrants him being removed immediately after the loss to Ross County if only because the Buck stops with the manager, hope you don’t think that I am intruding on personal grief but I thought that you would have been one of his most fervent supporters. Sorry if I have made the wrong assumption here. Hail Hail.

Monti
2 years ago
Reply to  gerald allen

Hi Gerald,
I’m so frustrated & disappointed at what i’m seeing from Celtic, yes i have always been a big fan of Neil Lennon & will be again in the future, but he should not be the manager of Celtic.
It hurts me to say the things i’m saying but Celtic have to come first!

2 years ago
Reply to  gerald allen

Yeah Monti your reply below confirms what I thought, I’m only an armchair supporter in Yorkshire but having been born in Ballymote, Co. Sligo in 1943 I’ve always thought I have an emotional attachment to Celtic. Been a fan/supporter of NFL since he walked through the gates of Celtic Park but while he’s been Celtic through and through, cut him he bleeds green and all that he has suffered while at Celtic I think he should go immediately with a satisfactory wage settlement. The hope(now almost certainly shattered although there is a chance of retention) of creating even further history of 10 IAR looked odds on at the start of the season was something we all dreamed of after winning the league and the 9th title last May even though the Huns are playing better than the last 9 seasons we are still capable of preventing their 1st league win since 2012th if we can get the players giving us what we know they are capable of, I don’t care with whom, what or how so long as it can be done. If not then somehow this board has to give somebody the means to have a proper re-construction of the team or face a half empty stadium for quite a while. Hail. Hail. Monti.

Monti
2 years ago
Reply to  gerald allen

Gerald,
It doesn’t matter if you are an armchair fan or a season ticket holder, if Celtic are in your blood, heart & soul that is all you need.
There is NO ONE ELSE i would rather have had in charge of Celtic, in this quest for the tenth title in a row than Neil Lennon, to see him finish what he started would have been a beautiful thing, if the team was playing like a Celtic team, but it isn’t.
I love the guy as a man & what he has given us through his twenty years association, but the team is a mess & the manager will always pay for that.
The simple fact is it isn’t working & he needs to go, Billy McNeill, Davie Hay & Tommy Burns all lost the job at one point, Neil has to accept his team is underperforming badly.

HH

Bgbhoy
2 years ago
Reply to  gerald allen

See this is the problem

Wanting someone removed is not hostile? When it’s so clearly gone and he should walk he is damaging the club

No man is bigger than the club. End of. Lennon out

BJF
2 years ago

Good mixture of fantasy at the beginning of this Ralph and a more grounded heart felt plea to only play the players who want guilty be here. The fight has gone and I honestly don’t knows why. Is 10IAR not written in the stars. How come an allegedly ‘broke’ club can afford players and coaches that cost big bucks. Funnily enough and it ain’t funny at all it looks as if our supporters lack of influence in a situation like this couldn’t happen across the city of if Dave King sells his shares to the Glasgow Espanyol support, the supreme irony!

Obz
2 years ago

If we are going to let quality players go then we need to replace them with equal or better quality, which may mean the loan market again in January.

The cynic in me thinks they will announce a change of manager either in the lead up to the AGM to take the focus away from Res 11/12.

Alternatively they will announce something when they need the season ticket money 2021/2022 in citing ‘a new era’

Cortes
2 years ago

DD and PL: the new Chuckle Brothers…

To me. To you.

Mike
2 years ago

Every Celtic football manager that’s served under Lawwell – except one.

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Oztim
2 years ago

I believe this may be an ideal opportunity to set things right. A spokesperson(s) for the fans to put a set of demands to the board or else it’s empty stadium time and no purchase of merchandise.

Demands: Recognise Sevco as a new club with no history; Rangers EBT cheating addressed and stripped of titles/cups won; Res 12/11 backed. Appoint a Chairman that will actually stand up for the club and fans and players (in relation to treatment on the park). And any other issue that requires attention.

If someone doesn’t step in and galvanise the club/players/fans, we will accelerate towards oblivion.

Oztim
2 years ago
Reply to  Oztim

Forgot to add lying about 5WA!

Paranoid celt
2 years ago
Reply to  Oztim

Should have been done a long time ago

GreenMaestro
2 years ago

The first signs of Lennon being treated badly were when they gave him the job full time, since then he’s presumed that he is up to the job. I’m pretty sure this kind of mental torture and his subsequent imprisonment (as Celtics manager) goes against the Geneva convention.

2 years ago

Scottish Cup is no longer the competition it was. But against Hearts for The Quadrebel, why MOTIVATE THE OPPOSITION a month in advance by stating NL will win it and walk away a legend.
Why.Why.Why?

2 years ago

Re site problems

When I click on further comments box, I m only getting a 10% success, as a message appears saying.
Youve already voted etc.
There must be around 200 posts I ve not seen in the last few days .

Yoker Bhoy
2 years ago
Reply to  Tyrone9

If you use Mozilla Firefox that should solve the problem for both the further comments button and the reply button.

2 years ago
Reply to  Yoker Bhoy

Thank you. I ll get the wean on it when she’s home from school.

Frank
2 years ago

i gave up reading this drivel at the point it suggested that Lawwell vetoed Desmond and vice versa. Don’t give up the day job Mr McGinley.

Uralius
2 years ago

Doesn’t this keep happening? Hadn’t it happened on the same cyclic Celtic calendar since before Deila? There are a few members of staff that have remained throughout.

Uralius
2 years ago

What I’m getting at is ever since John Kennedy’s involvement with the first team no manager has lasted 3 years. Everytime you can see the manager loses the dressing room.

john67
2 years ago

Good article sir – it does soften my ire at Lennon a bit. Hes hanging on for the pay-off, but most would. Lawell and Desmond’s legacy at the moment is like your mole, -‘pish stained’- and there may be enough vanity within DD to throw money at the issue, not for the supporters, but to save face at the golf club. Heres hoping we get at least a credible quick fix to get the team playing at maybe 80% capacity rather than 25%. Long term – there will be no revolution that is clearly needed until Lawell leaves or is banned from team interference.

BornCelt!
2 years ago

An article on Video Celts states we can still claim a refund for last season, been banned from commenting on there, If you cancel this years, you will also get a refund on the rest of the season. We should all demand, if Lawwell is no replaced and a fine management team in place, we will all demand our money back for this and last seasons, if replacements made, they can keep it. Respect to those on hard times who must feed their families. This must not drag on. HH!

Monti
2 years ago

Well said numb nuts!

Steve M
2 years ago

I think the club has been run by an arrogant, complacent and, frankly corrupt cabal for a while now. They have no real ambition. The ambition extends to being in some form of European competition come January. That way they get a significant income boost and can pretend to the fans that they have actual ambition. They are 100% in bed with the Ibrox crew – all this talk of playing in England or an Atlantic league is just piss and wind – all they want is the Glasgow rivalry to continue forever. That way both sets of fans (mugs to a man – me included) keep buying into it and the cabal keep earning. We have been played for fools for decades. The players are kind of into it to – the foreigners and some of the local talent see this as a pretty effective stepping stone to greater things (Van Dyke, Wanyama, KT etc) others see it as the sum of their ambition. This business model could have gone on for years and years and years. But they blundered badly with the appointment of Lennon. I think they didn’t quite realize how shite things would get (and so quickly) or how good the Ibrox outfit would turn out to be. I am sure there is currently extreme panic, recrimination and (soon) blood letting at the board level. But I’m not sure that it will be the revolution we need – it will just be to stabilize things, keep the fans from burning the place down, and returning to the “happy days” of the Old Firm ….

Big Don Gazpachio
2 years ago
Reply to  Steve M

Lawwell would rather have the 10 million a year by playing an Ibrox club than 40 million a year playing in Europe …

And this guy is meant to be an accountant.

He was spitting feathers when Rangers died with his ‘This has cost us 10 million a year’ instead of jumping for joy knowing that Celtic would have a free run at the CL EVERY FVCKN YEAR without any Hun scum to worry about.

I knew there & then something was up and that was even before any of us knew who Charlie Green was never mind the 5WA.

Any accountant who prefers 10 million a year over 40 million a year needs sacking and that a Celtic board would conspire with the SFA to create a Frankenstein’s monster of a club to maintain the bigotry that has seen thousands attacked or killed across Scotland tells us who these men really are at heart …

Liberty taking money grabbing scumbags who it’s clear now HATE the Celtic support with a vengeance.

Desmond thinks it makes him look ‘tough’ by ‘not backing down to yobs’?!

The man’s a fvckin idiot, it makes him look weak, stupid & pathetic.

He’s running a 100m a year business and he’d rather continue in abject because some daft wee boys turned a fence over?!

Get the fuck outa here!

The only time him or Lawwell ever speak out is when it’s the Celtic support they’re attacking!

Steve M
2 years ago

Well said!

SteveNaive
2 years ago

Well said Ralph. The players, many with good international experience need their hands held to organise in a game they have played at a organised level since they were twelve ! Take responsibility on the park or you’re cheating.

2 years ago

Whar do a find “ when hindsight doesn’t have 2020 vision “ ?
Oany links ?
Confused CSC

Iancelt67
2 years ago
Reply to  Angel Gabriel

Old McDonald had a farm riding on a pony when the snow lay all around

SteveNaive
2 years ago

Born Celt, read the small print in your renewal. No refunds.

BornCelt!
2 years ago
Reply to  SteveNaive

They must have seen this coming. Sure I saw instructions if canceellation required. HH!

Big Don Gazpachio
2 years ago
Reply to  BornCelt!

They didn’t just see it coming, BC …

They planned it.

We get The 9 twice and a quadruple Treble, depending who’s in charge, but the Huns stop The Ten or they’d go bankrupt.

They planned this the same as they planned the Hun ‘resurrection’, same as they threw away the league to give the Oldco a free run at the CL in 2011, all part of, but not necessarily written in, the still secret final draft of the 5 Way Agreement.

Our board are in bed with Sevco.

And Hun scum spvnk is just about to be sprayed all over our faces.

Jimbon
2 years ago

One player has to go – Christie. Quality has been terrible and head up his arse

Mike
2 years ago

Many players come and leave Celtic, some become hero’s, some use the club as a stepping stone to further riches ( no pun intended) some are just mince. Its the same with the managers. Only Fergus McCann I got the feeling that he cared about helping the club, he was honest enough and intelligent enough to say how he would help our great club and then left it in a much better situation than he found it, he stood up for the club and faced down our many enemies. How many of the present board would have done what he did or achieve what he achieved, none, not one. Could you see him giving such helping hands and many of them to the Huns, no chance, he would have buried them, then ran a stake into their hearts, cemented in their graves, the coup de grace. But for me in recent years, the only really great Celtic man, was TOMMY BURNS. With a pure heart and an easy smile TOMMY BURNS was the heart and soul of Celtic FC. # Gone but never forgotten.

henkesdreadlocks
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike

I’ll tell you what Mike, if Tommy was in Lennon’s shoes he’d have done the honourable thing.
Still one of the most enjoyable times watching Celtic, was watching TB’s team.

Mike
2 years ago

Ain’t that the truth Henke..

Salad queen
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike

When I was at college in the 70’s our accounts lecturer had on the blackboard ” A business can not survive without profit ” This was repeated to us students in every one of her classes.
The mob out of ipod have h

Salad queen
2 years ago
Reply to  Salad queen

To finish the mob on the southside have lost £80 million in the last 9 years. Will the business studies courses have to be rewritten?

Salad queen
2 years ago
Reply to  Salad queen

This time last year we had qualified for Europe with 2 games to go, this year with 2 matches to play!!!
Sevco are stronger this season but what has ha5 to us?

Salad queen
2 years ago
Reply to  Salad queen

Beginning to post like the port.
Certainly having missed wee Jamiss

Salad queen
2 years ago
Reply to  Salad queen

The inability for our board not to do anything about the team’s lack of anything seems to be that they know something is going on down ibrox way. Are sevco going tots up to be deducted 10/15 points?

Mike
2 years ago
Reply to  Salad queen

Murray took over the Huns in 1989 with £6.00 million that he borrowed from the BOS. 9- 10 years later that we know of he started paying players through EBTs. His greed and ambition overcame every logical sense of business acumen. I’m sure that no sane business man would invest into any FC. McCann was one of the very few who left with a healthy profit, in the 5-6 years that he rebuilt Celtic park he said that he never took a single dime in wages. An FC. is a high investment for 0 return, probably just debt. The trouble with the peepul is that they have a huge sense of entitlement. Being the Institution club, every news outlet and the football governing bodies back them in every sense. The board of Celtic plc. their main responsibility is to keep the club safe, after Fergus they lost their honesty and betrayed their roots, they certainly began helping the Dead-co and in many different ways. The sooner they realise that they are dependent on the support, the quicker they will return to the roots of the club, if not, then the support will turn on them, they did it before…

Big Don Gazpachio
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike

McCann ‘never took a penny out of Celtic’ during his 6 year reign but he walked away with 60 million quid at the end.

10 million a year backdated for 6 years …

Nice work if ye can get it.

Desmond must have been wetting his pants as he waited in the wings.

Mike
2 years ago

He bought a 51% shareholding for over £9.00 million and sold it for a £40.00 million profit and donated £1.5 million to fund a Celtic football academy. That’s £38.5 million profit. Even when you take his 6 years free salary working for many hours a day into the equation and all the extra expense’s like £500.000 for renting Hampden and Tommy’s buy out payment, yes its still an awful lot, but he left us with a £40.00 million pound stadium. Nobody else had the balls to do it, risk his own personnel fortune, did they? Compare him with Murray, there is no comparison is there?

The Cha
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike

I don’t think he did donate the money to fund an academy.

He offered it as a bribe/incentive for fans to buy his shares and that didn’t happen.

I’m pretty sure he also took a wage or whatever directors get, something like £15kpa.

I do object to people saying he built the stadium, no the fans money paid for that otherwise it would have fallen down when he cashed in his shares!

Big Don Gazpachio
2 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

Cha’s observations make mine redundant, Mike, so we’ll leave it there.

Why should we argue over a few million Quid of an already massive payoff?

Mike
2 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

Deary me, either way you look at it, the £1.5 million was left to fund the academy. It was reported that’s what he did, how can anyone know what his motives were. £15k pa. over 6 years, a paltry sum when you consider the vast amount of hours that he spent organising a new stadium to be built. It is not his fault that the support never invested in his interest free loans to buy into the club, that was their choice. The fact is that he wanted them to own a part of the club. Also, I never said that he paid for the stadium, i said ‘that he left us with a £40.00 million stadium’ an entirely different thing all together. The fact is that he had the vision and risked his own fortune to rescue the club from becoming bankrupt. Many thought about it, but no-one had the balls to do it, he did and fought many battles on behalf of the club. Others might denigrate him, I don’t, I appreciated all that he did.

Salad queen
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Very true Mike, but I’m mainly referring to the new club/company.
Different shit, same smell.
No ten this season means very few tickets being bought for next season. Now that will have DD and his puppy lawwell thinking!

Mike
2 years ago
Reply to  Salad queen

I wanted to show the comparisons between the smellie’s and us. The only problem is that smell infects those that associate with those that smell. But you are absolutely right about ticket sales and what DD- PL will be thinking, because they absolutely need supporters to buy season tickets. I will be listening intently to what will be said at the AGM. We might get a flavour of that in the coming days.

Bgbhoy
2 years ago

Get to f***

James
2 years ago

Who the fuck does Lawwell think he is!!

Uralius
2 years ago

Germany doesn’t have the highest average attendance per capita, Scotland does.

Bgbhoy
2 years ago

I hope you read everyone’s scathing comments and what they feel about you. You are a stain.

Get to F***

Bgbhoy
2 years ago
Reply to  Bgbhoy

Hahahaha. What a clown. Away run to admin and have your posts removed hahahaha

Making fun of a man an hour after he passed

Spits the dummy and changes his name for the 4th time

Your not wanted here. F*** off back to the legion you cretin

BroxburnBhoy
2 years ago

Desmond Dermot is firmly in charge at Celtic. He is the one who call the shots and signs off on the big decisions. Lawell works for him. The mini riot the other night played right into the hands of the media and the Board. It allowed them to sit high and mighty taking about not bending in front of the mob. I think if there was no gathering after the Ross County game NFL would be gone. Now if they let him go it looks like pandering to the mob. They will move on from him because they and we need to team to win on the pitch and put some pride back in the shirt as well as money in the coffers. A mutual need. My prediction is post Milan we will see a new management team. Hopefully one that has control on the football side like Rodgers initially had and one that has the same competence as Rodgers without the narcissism

Sancheto
2 years ago

Dear Peter, we all know you read the diary so here is a good article from the BBC about how Seville run a successful buy low sell high player trading strategy with no mention of an interfering CEO. We can but dream!

Monchi: Sevilla sporting director on his methods and mission
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55146257

The Cha
2 years ago

Has he gone yet?

Bgbhoy
2 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

No but soldier boy has resurrected more times than the huns

The Cha
2 years ago
Reply to  Bgbhoy

118 and counting?

henkesdreadlocks
2 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

….. games missing.

The Cha
2 years ago

Nah, think that would be 118 118.

Big Don Gazpachio
2 years ago

Lawwell would rather have the 10 million a year by playing an Ibrox club than 40 million a year playing in Europe.

And this guy is meant to be an accountant.

He was spitting feathers when Rangers died with his ‘This has cost us 10 million a year’ instead of jumping for joy knowing that Celtic would have a free run at the CL EVERY FVCKN YEAR without any Hun scum to worry about.

I knew there & then something was up and that was even before any of us knew who Charlie Green was never mind the 5WA.

Any accountant who prefers 10 million a year over 40 million a year needs sacking and that a Celtic board would conspire with the SFA to create a Frankenstein’s monster of a club to maintain the bigotry that has seen thousands attacked or killed across Scotland tells us who these men really are at heart.

Liberty taking money grabbing scumbags who have made it clear to us all now that they really HATE the Celtic support with a vengeance.

Desmond thinks it makes him look ‘tough’ by ‘not backing down to yobs’?!

The man’s a fvckin idiot, it makes him look weak, stupid & pathetic.

He’s running a 100m a year business and he’d rather continue with an abject failure out of nothing but petty spite because some daft wee boys turned a fence over?!

Get the fuck outa here!

The only time him or Lawwell EVER speak out is when it’s the Celtic support they’re attacking!

It’s NEVER been the on field assaults on players, players being pelted with missiles ON THE PARK. lighters, coins & Buckfast bottles at Ibrox & Linfield in the same week.

Where we as Desmond’s outrage then?

Leigh Griffiths got BOOKED for having a bottle thrown at him and these two charalatan Hun loving w@nkers never said one word about any of it, the two faced filth that they are.

Theres been a lot of talk going around for years about what these two have been up to with our club and I didn’t want to believe it but a couple of year back I learned something that wasn’t meant to be told to me and that was when I knew the fix was in against us.

Now we can all see it with our own eyes.

Yet they think all they have to do after telling us to our faces how little they value us is put out a mealy mouthed statement using the word ‘Celtic’ in it and we’ll all fall back into lockstep?

Sure, Peter …

If you want change the solution is simple …

Claim back your ticket refunds for this year’s VST & last year’s too for the games you missed and show these scum the true strength of the Celtic support is not something to be messed with.

portpower
2 years ago

Lawwell, with regards to the 10 million, was him referring to the amount lost while the new entity was outwith the Premiership.

Though I do agree that Lawwell has and would do his utmost so to have a racist/bigoted and seal of approval franchise within the Ibrox temple.

Big Don Gazpachio
2 years ago
Reply to  portpower

Right enough, Port, Charlie was already on the scene.

Same difference though, Anthony Perkins dancing about wae his deid Maw’s skeleton.

Monti
2 years ago

Big Don,
Excellent!

Celtic Mikey
2 years ago

Let’s face the clear facts and a few Of us have said it before. The board don’t Want 10IAR as it’s bad for longterm business. The league was given to us last season instead of playing it out. This is so we could fall behind sevco this season and when the league gets halted the precedent is set, sevco will stop 10IAR. Peter Lawwell is making too much dough for a non competetive league minus sevco to bring the gravy train to a halt. Celtic fans being milked like the UK under the tories and the wealthy 1%.

The Cha
2 years ago

There is no solution that involves Lennon staying.

He’s solely (*) responsible for the omnishambles we’ve been witnessing this season although its been fomenting ever since he came back.

Start of season – dire football and sklaffed wins – “fans should shut their pusses, we were brilliant”

Ferencvaros – wretched earliest CL defeat in 15 years, a whopping 3 rounds from ‘where we should be’ ie Group Stages. Lessons learnt from Cluj and Copenhagen catastrophes – square root of eff all.

Initially throws the players under the bus then recants after 24-48 hours. If it wasn’t all over before that then it now was and to allow it to fester for 4 more months is deplorable.

Huns – no shots on target (did he praise or criticise players? I can’t remember but doesn’t matter as he’d already lost them)

Sparta reserves/youths – 2 4-1 spankings by Pot4 side. Out of Europe League at earliest possible date (Match Day 4). As a Pot1 side, I imagine that’s another record.

Ross County – out of League Cup (1st round) and the end of our domestic Invincible trophy win run with barely a whimper. Out of 3 Cup competitions by November FFS.

Player recruitment/development – £50m spent in little over a year for little effect and, if any player hasn’t regressed, then they’re doing the best under Lennon.

(*) Of course, Lawwell et al bear a responsibility BUT if we had a proper managerial recruitment process then Lennon (unemployed, out of demand, failure in last 2 appointments and last success about half a decade previous) would never have been given the job and the only thing we should be concentrating on is getting the services of manager in keeping with our ambitions.

If you want Lennon to stay in any capacity then you’re saying that Ferencvaros, Huns, Sparta, Ross County, abysmal player recruitment and development are acceptable/excusable.

I really thought we had got past this nonsense, after setting records for worst performances in decades.

If Lawwell and Desmond were genuinely concerned about the weans reaction on Sunday, they really don’t want to rile the adults any more than they’re already doing.

henkesdreadlocks
2 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

If they keep this charade up much longer they’ll need to increase the capacity at James McGrory Park to cater for the disaffected hordes.

2 years ago

Only Edouard would get into the current sevco team.
Just ponder on that for a minute or two.
No other Celtic player would get near the huns starting 11.
That is where Lawwell and Lennys bus has taken us.
The huns will humiliate us at ibrokes
Hearts will have every chance to defeat us in the cup final they made a good account of it last time when we were far stronger.
Its been coming we’ve been shouting it from the roof tops but no one listened. Lennon hasn’t a clue.
Its time for real change.
Barkas
El Hamed Duffy Jullien Taylor
Instruction Centre backs do not go over the half way line. If we are attacking the right flank tell the sitting midfielder to fill in the gap.
Same with the left.
You feed the ball quickly yo the midfielders font try 30 yard cross field passes to wide areas keep it simple.
Midfield you run and you dont stop running into the spaces looking for the ball, you play it quickly and move get beyond the forwards, forwards get it in the box not 30 yards from goal, gamble always be on your toes put the ball in the onion bag. Fuckin easy.
Barkas
El Hamed Duffy Jullien Taylor
Ntcham Ajer McGregor
Frimpong Laxalt
Edouard.
Get back to fuckin basics Celtic

Big Don Gazpachio
2 years ago
Reply to  Jimmybee

They can’t, Jimmy.

Theyve lost it.

The whole club is now exposed as the shambles we all deep down knew it was.

The Cha
2 years ago

Unless I’m missing something “When Hindsight Doesn’t Have 2020 Vision” (etims .net/?p=15248) doesn’t explain how Lawwell cancels out Desmond.

Everything I’ve seen up to now suggests that he’s merely Desmond’s flunky and will do what the latter wants, nothing more nothing less.

Usually when there’s a dispute in a boardroom, its due to competing power blocks, with significant shareholdings.

Desmond has approx 30% shares himself and probably double that with others, so what’s the power behind Lawwell?

If true it seems crazy that Desmond will vote 1 way and allow Lawwell to do something different, although in this season doesn’t that just sum things up!

Big Don Gazpachio
2 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

Nobody knows what’s happening, Cha.

Thats the the truth of it.

Their power structure is so tight nothing leaks out.

And that’s what’s about to kill them.

portpower
2 years ago

Old patterns and behaviors do not just stop, but the reality is, it is usually guaranteed.

Peter Lawwell, the Celtic supporters want a divorce.

portpower
2 years ago

“Planning is bringing the future into the present so that you can do something about it now.” – Alan Lakein

2 years ago
Reply to  portpower

Have they outspent Celtic

Iancelt67
2 years ago
Reply to  portpower

Rangers are six goals better than Celtic now. It’s only Lennon’s buffoonery and halfwitted recruitment practices that’s made it so. Lennon was a fucking stupid idea. The chickens have come home to roost and we are now reaping the rewards

Big Don Gazpachio
2 years ago
Reply to  portpower

These people have planned centuries long wars, you were in one of them, and you still think they couldn’t plan a few years plandemic?

You’re an idiot, squaddie.

Thats why you did what you did.

2 years ago
Reply to  portpower

You see I’m not interested where they started what they are doing.
We have outspent them on shite.
We didnt have to gamble like them. Proper management with player recruitment and the title would have been ours.
Instead we have a goalie who looks terrified every time he has to save a shot. Midfielders playing as centre backs. By the way one who wasn’t fit to play for Celtic but played for Israel, a few days later
Strikers who are unfit and have been since they signed.
Marshall we took Barkas
Toney we took Ajeti
Poor decision making on transfers is the bottom line.
The recruitment is a shambles, and let me say this the January window which has been our saviour will not happen this season, in fact I can see the huns strengthen more than us.
Under lenny its over.
The cup will be lost if he’s still in charge.

Monti
2 years ago
Reply to  portpower

No corned beef & horse radish

Monti
2 years ago
Reply to  portpower

The font of all pIsh^

Big Don Gazpachio
2 years ago
Reply to  portpower

‘Servicing début accrued under O’Neill’!

You’re not still peddling that Peter Lawwell lie, are you, fadger?

It was a lie from the start yet here you are parroting it like the fvckin muppet you are, proving in the process that you haven’t a fvckin CLUE what you’re talking about.

You just there and parrot what you get telt by yer media or ye just make shite up to suit yer ain narrative.

Like saying ‘Celtic have won 12 trophies in a row’.

We’d get mair sense out those monkeys with the typewriters than the garbage we have to put up off you.

You come on ever and act like you know everything, talking to Port like he’s a child, talking to Jimmy like he’s ‘just misinformed’ yet all we get out you is how you won’t put a penny into the club!

What is the purpose of you here, squaddie?

Nobody likes ye, nobody respects what ye have to say, yer wee bum licker aside, you’re clearly not wanted seeing how many likes my Good Riddance post got, yet ere you are, crawling back under your fourth new name coming oit with the same ill informed nonsense you came out with before.

Why do you do it?

Just to annoy everyone?

You haven’t been to CP in 20 years, you happily tell us you’ve no intention of going, then you come on here and start treating folk who are true Celtic fans that they’re idiots?

Cant you find a hobby helping your local old folk or something and give us all peace?

Iancelt67
2 years ago

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portpower
2 years ago

Duncan.

Pandemic: So it hit only Celtic?
Knock-out: Inferior opposition.
Transfer market: Years of CEO cheapskate meddling.
Huns business model: Silence from fellow brethren within Celtic PLC.

Lotto numbers: 1 2 3 4 5 6. We`ll let an idiot win this week!

Monti
2 years ago

Shut up you stupid, stupid fool

The Cha
2 years ago

Has he gone yet? (Thursday)

The Cha
2 years ago

Celtic need to “find that little extra zest and zing” for their Europa League meeting with AC Milan, says manager Neil Lennon.

FFS Are Zest and Zing to replace Zippy and Bungle?

Big Don Gazpachio
2 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

All they have left are rainbows in the boardroom, Cha.

The Cha
2 years ago

Cluj have been forced to deny that head coach Dan Petrescu left the Romanian champions with a view to taking over from Neil Lennon at Celtic, the former Chelsea defender having exited by mutual consent this week following a shock cup defeat by Politehnica Iași.

Anyone hear anything about this or is the reporter as clueless as our (sadly still current) manager.

Monti
2 years ago

Bitton & Ajer at the back…….
” There may be trouble ahead ”

🙂

The Cha
2 years ago
Reply to  Monti

“but while there’s disco light and rebel music”

Monti
2 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

Disco lights? Forgot about them!
Another waste of money.

The Cha
2 years ago
Reply to  Monti

They’ll pay for themselves when we have a run of all-nighters to celebrate 10IAR.

Oh, wait.

Big Don Gazpachio
2 years ago

Fvck off, Fadger, nobody’s interested.

Big Don Gazpachio
2 years ago

You’re in yer ain chocolate factory, Charlie.

An it smells like shit.

portpower
2 years ago

We need to find the drive in the final third again. We had them on the back foot, then resorted to tippy tappy.

2 nice goals though.

portpower
2 years ago

I see Kristoffer has his plume up.

2 years ago

Even at 2 _0 up you just know this team isn’t capable of seeing out a game. Dire defensively.
The goalie just looks scared of his shadow. Joke at the back.

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