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Resolution 12: The Preferred Outcome

You will by now have all read the quotation from the UEFA missive which confirms that the entity operating out of Ibrox is not the same one that operated pre 2012.

You will also be aware that this letter will not be published.

There are reasons for this, which I have been informed of, and I’m more than happy with them.

This is a long game, and we will have to be patient, but its a game we are going to win.

But what will be deemed a victory ?

What do we want out of it ?

Titles stripped ?

The SFA ripped aprt and started anew ?

Officials held accountable ?

Well, yes, of course.

But then what ?

Well, thats a little more difficult, as who is to say the new incumbents at Hampden will be any better than the present shifty lot ?

Football is not just a game any more, and money is  king. Sometimes that clouds peoples judgment, and it must be stopped.

We want it to be a game again, on a level playing field.

In order for a full and satisfying victory in this particular game, it must be that the situation that saw one club receive favourable treatment can never  be allowed to happen again, and in that case , a radical overhaul of the domestic game is required.

This means reconstruction, to a degree, and the introduction of an ombudsman to who clubs can take their complaints to , and be safe in the knowledge that he/she will deal with them without fear or favour.

This ombudsman must have the final say in all matters concerning the game, from schools football all the way up to the highest level, and their decision must be implemented without fear or favour.

That would mean a hierarchical change in the way the game is governed .

No more SFA or SPFL ruling in what they feel the games best interests are, as they have shown time after time that they act only in their own best interests.

If an ombudsman is not enough, then maybe a committee of people, paid for by the clubs via a levy, but also elected by them and their supporters  to act in their interests and in the interests of supporters, without whom there would be no game.

 

Resolution 12 has a long way to go, and the evidence that the guys have is conclusive.

The SFA and the SPFL have not acted in the intersts of Scittish football, and whilst the two organsisations are needed, although perhaps in a merged form, there is a need for a third option.

An option that will act for Scottish football on behalf of those who care about it, and not about themselves.

 

Too radical ?

Not if all the clubs, and all their supporters get behind the idea.

The first step would be to approach Holyrood and point out that a major industry in the country is not being goverened transparently, and is not held to account for its actions.

An elected and accountable overseeing body is necessary to avoid the game slipping into further disrepute, and action is needed now to save its image.

After all the stench of corruption has been removed, there would be little point in allowing even a hint of it to fester, and so someone has to keep an eye on things.

We can sort out who does what  after it’s set up, but for now its essential to start talks on setting it up.

We nearly lost our game to spivs, charlatans and dodgy administrators.

We must not let it happen again.

And we need to start work on that now.

Who knows, we might even give the peoples game back to the people.

 

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Tony Anderson
5 years ago

Cracking article

5 years ago

U know they will tell us we don’t need an ombudsman that’s what eufa is there for which of course is even more corrupt because they only care that the big European clubs don’t ditch them and go on their own we need for the moment at least to get rid of these people who are running it now but in doin so make sure their corruption is exposed and that means they do not under any circumstance walk away with a big pension and this means the letters have to brought out into the open

5 years ago
Reply to  Phelim grehan

Their are far too many clubs in Scotland,trying to get so little money,time to narrow down the teams (not expand) Now UEFA have said RFIC 12 IS a NEW CLUB.The time has come to move on,Sevco fans knew they cheated,why don’t use go after the man who killed your club?not Whyte,Green etc.SDM &the old board including CCK.open your eyes

mike
5 years ago

Absolutely nails it,well written Ralphy,your best ever,now we know what you have been up to.
Brilliant stuff.

5 years ago

We see by the shape of the so called champions league I prefer to call it the the European Petrovac trophy this competition will never have the prestige of the European cup only the champions of each European league should b allowed compete for the European top trophy but instead we have fourth rate English teams being allowed to compete and in some cases win this Mickey Mouse trophy because they have money and eufa are afraid to host them meanwhile the champions of our league are being forced to travel around in July playin qualifying rounds after winning the league Celtic won the European cup and team like Chelsea Arsenal Spurs never did because the weren’t good enough

mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Phelim grehan

P.G. That is easily sorted and what you say is absolutely correct.
The European Cup, National Champions only.
The Euoropa League,to include the top European Teams.
The only problem is that in the ritchest Leagues the Europa Cup was a diversion that most clubs that qualified from the EPL did not offer the cash rewards that there own leagues offered,so was subsequently devalued.

5 years ago
Reply to  mike

If all champions of European leagues have a vote,surely they will vote for champions only,but if the teams in the top 5 leagues get to vote well we’re stuck with the status quo

Besty
5 years ago

I totally agree there needs to be a drastic change in the way our game is governed but who’s going to push the Authorities to take action?

It probably needs assistance/support from the MSM to get supporters of other Clubs onboard and to highlight this isn’t just an issue for Celtic Supporters. I’d be hesitant the MSM will provide any support, especially as they have been complicit in the cover-up’s.

Devoy45
5 years ago

First class aricle. Well-done! Ombudsman is a great idea. A Russian doll of corruption: SFA within UEFA, UEFA within Fifa.No other multi-billion £ industry in the world could be so corrupt.

schoosh71
5 years ago

There is already an ‘ombudsman’ set up and it’s called ‘the court of arbitration for sport’. There is no need to wait on any criminal court case involving them.

http://www.tas-cas.org/en/index.html

Lets not be kidding ourselves on here, this is Scotland and there is no way that ‘Res 12’ will alter the prejudices that exist in this country. None. That’s without even to mentioning their ‘secret’ wee men’s club that pervades every aspect of Scottish society.

So while you’re all patting each other on the back, lets see some bite, instead of just barking.

In all the while, Celtic remains conflicted and silent in the matter. HH

mike
5 years ago
Reply to  schoosh71

Which is why Ralphy is calling for an adjudicator,someone outside fitba to make the governance of the game fully accountable.
My choice would be a female MSP.

schoosh71
5 years ago

Banned again! 🙂

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  schoosh71

Schoosh,
Just rub your Bonsai tree and you will be fine…

charlie
5 years ago

scottish football always has and always will be corrupt and anti celtic its the only way they can compete with us just ask yer granda they will say ombudsman you say more jobs for the boys you say heres gordon smith

charlie
5 years ago

ralph the zombies will make another statement today level 5 for ombudsman you know it makes sence ha ha

charlie
5 years ago

apart fae that great article

5 years ago

The stench from The SFA,is it any wonder.Theyre all one in the same.Freemasons or Orangemen.Our refs arent the best to be fair either.ie Dallas.Its gone on way way to long.Get them out and keep them out.As of now its all dodgy handshakes etc.

CarlJungleBhoy
5 years ago

Excellent stuff Ralph! I agree with pretty much everything you’ve said, although I can’t help but thinking that, in order to move on, there first needs to be a major clearing of the air and some recognition of wrong-doing.

Although the comparison may seem like stretching it a bit too far – the analogy that most readily springs to mind is the post-apartheid Truth & Reconciliation commission in RSA which allowed for a thorough airing of dirty laundry, but where those willing to admit their guilt in wrong-doing actually contributed to the process in a “positive” way.

Something similar – albeit a bit lower key, (& with a less pompous name?) seems to me a necessary part of the process of drawing a line and putting the peoples game back in the hands of the people (rather than Peepul!).

The case for this was put – very eloquently I feel -a few months back on 90 Minutes Cynic ..

IMHO well worth another read

http://90minutecynic.com/truth-and-reconciliation-in-scottish-football/

Steve
5 years ago

Haha, “ahv goat a lettur thit sayz Ranjurs are pyure deed (and uhm gonnae ignore the updated YooEffa website cos it’s been pyure hacked) but ahm no gonnae let yooz see the letter.”

Lol, Rofl, Lmao etc.

mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve

Are you no out your hole a day early?Should you no be gettin ready for your 1690 shitefest.

Stuck in the past with yoooo.

jpm 88
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve

You were warned about Craig Whyte- but you just Lol,Rofl,Lmao etc;

You were warned about Charles Green – but you just Lol,Rofl,Lmao etc;

You were warned about all the other spivs who fleeced you – but you just Lol,Rofl,Lmao etc;

You have your opinion re- Res 12 , the letter etc;
We have ours .
Let’s , rather than trading words ; wait and see who’s finally Lol,Rofl, Lmao etc 🙂

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve

Steve,
When you laugh do you try not to let anyone see your nicotine stained tooth?
Do you try to keep your mouth closed whilst laughing?

Stupid Huns.

mike
5 years ago

What do we want, Yes everything you suggest.
Titles stripped.
Complete clear out of the SFA and SPFL.
Officials held to account.
An official Adjudicater,from outside fitba,preferably female untainted MSP.

Steve
5 years ago

I don’t partake in that nonsense which is the same for most Rangers fans that I know. Sorry to blow your mind that not all Rangers fans are Orangement in the same way that not all Celtic fans are rabid republicans – in fact, most of them are pretty sound.

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve

rangers are deid are all sevco fans delusional

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve

Steve,
Most if not all Huns are inbred scummy bastards, fatherless and scared of work.

Fuck them all!

BondiBrian
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

…well that’s gonny make Steve sit up N notice.

Aye right.

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  BondiBrian

Ssshhhhh

mike
5 years ago

Nonsense would not be the word that I would use,bigoted morons would IMHO be a more appropriate term.
Answer me this,do you think that fitba should be fair for every team,that the game should be open and accountable?That every club should get the same oppertunity as each other?If you do believe this then why mock our supporters who back RES.12 for just that.ALL we want is a level playing field, nothing more, nothing less.Complete accountability should be a given,one team should not have an advantage over another.
If you agree then back Res 12 along with supporters from other Scottish clubs.

charlie
5 years ago

mike he does and thinks what he does cause hees a hun its in their dna they are more to be pitied

Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

You sir, are a bigot.

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve

you sir are a knob now fuck off

Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

You missed a comma out there Charles.

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve

does me missing out a comma make you feel dehumanised zombie

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve

Steve,
Charlie missed a comma, you are missing an entire football club, you thick fuck!

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

🙂

Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

And your grammar is the only thing here to be pitied.

Rebus67
5 years ago

Ralph,

Good article. There is the germ of a good idea there. However, we need to ensure that we do not create another body that is corruptible as well. There must be models out there other than the single ombudsman that we could examine. I believe an essential characteristic of any oversight is that it is external to football, or at the least, external to Scottish football. This would include a non-Scottish body looking at our game, including officiating of games. The ideal would be to make football accountable to a non-football authority so that all parties understood that violations could be prosecuted in a court of law and not merely adjucated by some board or committee from within the SFA or SPFL. For the SFA etc to surrender this much power is unlikely. It would take a scandal of monumental proportions to bring this about. That is a tall order to place upon Res 12 and the 4 guys behind it!

Rebus

Steve
5 years ago

Nice one Charlie, good to see your true colours showing there. I am apparently a Protestant so I have a character fault. It’s guys like you who should be pitied for assuming that someone’s religion is an affliction. Sectarianism is truly alive and well.

The reason that I find it humorous is that these guys are peddling an argument that has been discredited many times, politely denounced by UEFA (who recently updated Rangers – sorry, Sevco’s profile). Why? To sell T-shirts by the look of it. Is there a reason that the press aren’t following this? Yes. Because if any serious journalistic source were to print these allegations as true, they would be opening themselves up to a hellish legal arsestorm as they are ludicrous.

Is there a massive conspiracy and that is why you only find these comments on blogs of a certain inclination? No. There is no grand conspiracy, no Orangemen in high places, no illuminati pulling the strings. Unfortunately there are just some bitter people spinning stories that others want to believe are true and profiting out of it.

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve

i never said fuck all about your religion isaid you are a hun and a knob and you are a hun and a knob get it einstien now fuck off

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

Charlie,
Well said m8, the monkey must have been let out for the day….by his sister/mother.

Same thing.

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

monti hees away back oanie the zombie sites bragging about annoying human beings ha ha evolution passed them by

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

Stupid Huns m8

Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

Education has obviously passed you by my simple friend.

Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

Yes, you talk about Huns comparing us to our Germanic heritage? You can mask your bigotry with lies – I know your bitter lot do that. I am glad to say I know and am friends with many Celtic fans and none sink to the depths of the morons here. Disgusting creatures.

Uralius
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve

Steve,
I too am friends with many Rangers fans, but am friends with far more Germans. I fail to see your point here. I do not internalize my outward hilarious banter, nor do I take myself too seriously.
Furthermore I fail to see why being compared to one of the most educated and industrious people on the planet should offend. I would have no issue being compared to such a people, but that’s because I internalize the concept that all humans have much to give or take from our society and planet and they have the freedom to choose which. Outwardly however, you are a dirty zombie-fan of a 4 year old club, claiming the history of a club that UEFA said died in 2012. Now GTF!

Uralius
5 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

It’s that one above Steve.

Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

Oh dear Uralius! How rude!

So it is fair game to use the term f*nian then? The origins of this word is an Irish freedom fighter. No, it is not right. It is a bigoted word that has had its original meaning corrupted. As has H*n. If you can’t see this, then you are either a) a bigot or b) stupid.

You showed your true colours there at the end my friend. You know nothing of me and since you assume I am a fan of a rival club that I am “dirty”. Again, bigoted. Plus, I would have a wee check at UEFA’s latest website. Oh, I forgot, you are going to believe a website that punts T-shirts and refused to post the letter that apparently confirms this.

You seem like a reasonably intelligent person (at least you can type in proper English unlike some of the other morons here) apart from that last lash out. If someone said to you; “I have a letter that says that the world is flat but I can’t show you it – here, buy my Flat World T-shirts please and donate to my flat world blog.” would you believe them? Or would you ask any expert on the matter if the world was in fact flat? When they told you it wasn’t, would you still believe the wee guy shouting about the flat world and buy his T-shirts?

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

if someone told you rangers died would you believe them or are you norman bates

Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

Charlie, in amongst your comments of zero substance, that has got to be one of the worst. Leave the debate to the big boys please.

Uralius
5 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

I don’t recall mentioning t-shirts. Nor do I care about being called a F*nian, and I will tell you why. If it doesn’t bother me then it has no power. Similarly if my last outburst didn’t bother you it would have had no power nor any impact. It was placed there to prove my point.

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve

Steve,
Away and wash your sash for the morn ya fanny!

Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Again, I don’t prescribe to that rubbish and either to 90% of all other Rangers fans. Don’t let the truth get in the way of your bigotry my man.

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

you right about the rubbish bit

jpm 88
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve

No , we’re comparing you to the marauding Huns from the Eurasian Steppe , as in Attila , your ancestral leader 🙂

jpm 88
5 years ago
Reply to  jpm 88

So it’s not so much the race (Huns) we’re focusing on ; more the races(Huns) actions i.e. MARAUDING.

As in “marauding” in Wolverhampton
or
“marauding” at Villa
or
“marauding” in Newcastle
or
” marauding” in Barcelona
or
” marauding” in Manchester

You get the idea , right ?

Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  jpm 88

It is more likely to be Ghengis but never mind.

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  jpm 88

steve the zombie thinks hees related to ghengis khan cause his maw sleeps wae animals

Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  jpm 88

I know you are a racist but to insinuate that Asians are animals is a new low for an open racist.

jpm 88
5 years ago
Reply to  jpm 88

Genghis (cause that’s how you spell it correctly) Khan was a Mongol , not a Hun , but , “never mind” ; I can understand your confusion : pick whichever one you want .
Just to be clear , the 2 are circa 1000 yrs apart and the term “marauding Huns” is correct.
Think it was a Wolverhampton newspaper that first called you Huns ; referencing the marauding men of Attila of the 5th century AD.
Genghis was 14th century AD

jpm 88
5 years ago
Reply to  jpm 88

Correction – Genghis ( cause that’s how you spell it correctly) 13th century AD

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  jpm 88

who called asians animals

BondiBrian
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve

‘profiting out of it’…Steve, since you are a pedant it should read ‘profiting from it’
Anyhoo…as long as yer comments are no bigoted etc then I for one huv nae problem with it.

CarlJungleBhoy
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve

BTW “if any serious journalistic source were to print these allegations as true, they would be opening themselves up to a hellish legal arsestorm as they are ludicrous”…? ..

I’m sure Ian Hislop’s Private Eye – who have -I suspect – a better understanding of the legalities involved than any other media outlet in the UK- will be gutted to hear comment like that coming from such an esteemed expert in the legal field as you, Steve

Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  CarlJungleBhoy

The Private Eye is a satire magazine. It has probably the best experience of getting out of legal problems from printing things that aren’t true. I don’t know if you have noticed that before as much of the content of these Celtic blogs could probably be printed as satire but it appears that the paranioia of Orangemen running the country is actually a real paranioia and not some elaborate joke.

Tourqoise Tims
5 years ago

We nearly lost our game to spivs, charlatans and dodgy administrators.

Yet they still remain in charge on every level. Thank the Lord they didn’t win?

5 years ago

Glasgows Green and White.Over the Clyde you,ll find the Shite

Monti
5 years ago

Steve,
What did Walter Smith mean when he said ” Good luck to the new Rangers club “?
” new “?

In your own time Zombie.

Monti
5 years ago

Who is this cunt Gregory Campbell?
He sounds even more backward than your average monkey??

jpm 88
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

🙂

Monti
5 years ago

Steve,
Have you fuckwits paid the stolen charity money back yet?
On dear.

Uralius
5 years ago

Oh a Grammer troll, how wonderful. Let’s try this. Steve du bist ein kleines bisschen Dummkopf.

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

Uralius,
Funny how he want’s to pick up on grammar, yet none of those cunts can spell, Colgate.

Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

“Want’s”. Awful – no apostrophe needed.

Also no comma needed before Colgate.

The intention of the sentence looks like you are speaking to someone called Colgate. Monti, back to school mate.

Uralius
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve

Steve,
How big in millimeters would you say an apostrophe or a comma is? You see that’s about how much we give a fuck about your grammar fascism.

Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

It depends on the type size Uralius. So basically it can be as big or small as the answer I give. I know it’s other types of fascism that is the norm on these comments so I’ll let you continue with that.

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve

I’m not your mate!
I take it the creditors haven’t been paid yet?

Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

No, unfortunately when a company goes into Administration, then Liquidation, these things happen. Mate.

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

But nothing has changed tho right, same club?

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve

Steve,
” Comma needed before Colgate “?
So are teeth.
That’s you fucked…..

Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Please confirm how you think you are aware of my dental condition?

5 years ago

10 in a Row,here we Go,We did 9 in a row.That finished Oldco.Ten will FINISH THEM!!!PERIOD.

Monti
5 years ago

Steve,
I see you haven’t answered my question about Walter Smith’s quote about ” The new Rangers club “?

Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Old Walter can get a bit confused sometimes. At the time, things were a bit confusing obviously. I would forward you to UEFA’s latest update:

http://www.uefa.com/teamsandplayers/teams/club=50121/profile/index.html

Hopefully that should clear that up…. Oh I forgot, there is a “letter” which no-one is allowed to see.

Uralius
5 years ago

Steve,
I replied to your comment a bit farther up. I know it’s quite a bit and I did get a tad philosophical, but you might understand some of it.

Uralius
5 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

This link should help you find it. It’s the one where I imply you being offended for being compared to Germans makes you worse than anyone for saying it.
https://etims.net/?p=9359#comment-820197

Monti
5 years ago

How’s the land deal investigation going?

Oh dear.

Monti
5 years ago

” I was one of the first players to accept the 75% wage cut, in an attempt to help the original Rangers ” – Steven Naismith.

Oh dear.

Uralius
5 years ago

I think he has gone to bed Monti, I wonder if he kissed his picture of Walter Smith before turning his light out.

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

Uralius,
You mean his sisters bed?

Uralius
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

It’s only her bed when he is not in it!

Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

I don’t have a sister. Small family.

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve

do you know yer da or did mummy say he died in the army

Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

Sorry, I had work in the morning. Obviously a lot on here don’t unfortunately. I feel sorry for you.

BondiBrian
5 years ago

ach well, bluenose did get a bite from a few on here. Livened things up a wee bit, witty ah can handle, degenerating inti abuse is rubbish.

anyhoooooooooooo………….4-0 the night against the Imps ah rekon.

HAIL HAIL N aw that!!!!!

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  BondiBrian

Bondi,
Huns are there to be abused, it’s the way it is.
You seem to be taking offense….interesting.

Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

He’s an imposter Monti! You are even paranoid against your own fans!

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve

hark at the zombie trying to mix it ha ha

Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  BondiBrian

I have to agree Bondi. I know that 95% of Rangers and Celtic fans are very similar people who support different teams. I have many Celtic fan friends and they have many Rangers fans friends. Unfortunately forums like this allow idiots to spout off nonsense and abuse people. It is the same on Rangers sites. But it is always good to remember that we are all similar people with similar wants and needs – but again it is also quite funny to laugh at the other 5% on these outlets. Take Monti for example.

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve

what about your whole shithole singing the famine song zombie

Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

I think you’ll find it wasn’t the whole “shithole”. I’m sure you don’t want to believe that as it doesn’t suit your bias.

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve

has the roof been fixed on the shithole

5 years ago
Reply to  BondiBrian

Brian,Just wondering mate.Second name begin with G.;)

5 years ago

Why oh why,Does the Ahem Tribute Act hold onto the belief that the Oldco,s history is there history.LoL they will never surrender the Tainted Titles that dont even have anything to do with them.They cling to the belief.Same Club same Support etc.The entire planet is looking at Scotland’no doubt’in amazement at just how corrupt and one sided our Governing Body at SFA and SPFL in there entirity is.What a Basketcase of a Peepul.Celtics History is well documented.And there is no breaks in it.No liquidations no not one sign of taintedness.Our successes are through Honest Fairplay and Togetherness.No matter how Newco go.Its always and Forever going to be loked upon as a Different Club.Even Donald Findlay stated the obvious..Celtic Fans can walk with there heads held high,Rangers well its all Debatable and Cringe Worthy.But then the Peepul would literally Brassneck anything.Trying to surpass the Mghty Beautiful Wonderful Glasgow Celtic.Rangers SFA SPFL are no doubt all inter connected.Actions speak louder than words.Get them OUT!

Monti
5 years ago

KWS,
Quite right sir HH

Steve
5 years ago

Trying to read that is difficult. Please learn to use a keyboard and not randomly smash the shift key. Also please learn about correct spacing after a full stop.

Anyway, if what you say is true and this massive international conspiracy to somehow get one over Celtic, then that inside man Peter Lawell must be doing some job.

Or you might just be really paranoid. I hope your T-shirt fits ok.

charlie
5 years ago

dry yer eyes hun it will all come oot in the wash as us people who wash say

Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

Come on now Charlie – can’t you remember the letter sent out to the Celtic fans reminding them to watch their personal hygiene?

I don’t understand why I should “dry my eyes”? I’m not the one morning about a supreme conspiracy.

Out of interest do you actually, really, truly, honestly believe it? Or is it just a bit of banter that has gone too far?

5 years ago

Supreme Conspiracy Etc,Diverting tactics’from a Bluedoo.It’s no wonder our game suffers.Every single person who supports any club has been skanked.Even the Newco support but explaining commn sense to a Hun is waste of time.That is a fact.Bitter Paranoid Peepulz.Taking my Dog out fr a piss and an ibrox.just a thought here.Murray used crutches but he left Oldco Legless.lolol.

Steve
5 years ago

And now making fun on someone’s disability. That was also really witty what you did there, switching the word “shit” for “Ibrox”. What age are you out of interest?

5 years ago

Steve,Do you honestly hand on heart believe’Oldco under Murray etc,Done no wrong.If it wasnt for EBT wages just paid another way to avoid taxes,Most of the players you lot had then.Would never have pulled on the jersey.You did the Nine in a row.But didnt even come close to the Big Cup ;))).Nine tainted titles and it cost 140 years of tradition and history.Just swept away rite doon the Clyde with all the other waste.It is terrible what happened but for any Rangers person to say or blame any other person and not the Culprits Themselves.Well thats just clouded judgement.And until Bitterest Supporters in Scotland face reality and take it like genuine supporters.Then tought titties.Were you lot deserving of those titles.NO!!!Are you deserving of facing the consequences of Same Club,Same Supporters.Fkn rite u r.

Steve
5 years ago

Yes, if it turns out that the EBT were illegal (remember there is a case still running – which Rangers were cleared in twice) then they should be punished – which the SFA already done with a fine. And then there was the Administration and Liquidation of the company which resulted in the team going to the 3rd division. The thing I can’t understand is how it can be seen that that isn’t a punishment – I know why, because some people are so full of hate that they want everything they don’t agree with destroyed.
I also love this myth that Rangers supporters blame everyone else. I haven’t seen anyone blame anyone else but Green and Whyte. Again, these facts won’t suit any agenda here.
The bitterest supporters in Scotland? Hilarious 😀 do you see articles and articles about Celtic on Rangers blogs? Not one. Yet here we are, discussing Rangers…

5 years ago

Steve we endure kid abuse claims and a lot more besides m8.I stated he left Oldco legless.Whats that got to do with his Disability.Didnt i say he uses crutches.Trying to put words in my mouth.Did you see what that politician says about Gibraltar and Republicans.Now thats downright despicable Matey.We will never agree on matters of Club.Thats a fact.Its just the nature of the Beast.Shouldnt you run along to one of your old Prozzie Queens Rallies.it is the 12th.While back in reality.The Bhoys are doing it tonight in Gibraltar.Start of a whole new chapter in our illustrious history.But Big bad Bomber Jobbi Brown thinks our successes are down to Rangers.Well worth a giggle that Bellend.

Steve
5 years ago

And any reference to chuild abuse is horrible. That was in the past and was a horrible act that was dealt with in the courts. In the past it should stay.

Steve
5 years ago

“Are you deserving of facing the consequences of Same Club,Same Supporters.Fkn rite u r.”

Can’t have your cake and eat it. If Rangers are to be punished for precious acts (which they are) then you can’t white wash history my friend.

mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve

The answer to your question about the UEFA website which shows titles and a longer history by the old co.Is because the old co.is still under the Liquidation process,which means in effect that your Board if it chooses can still pay the creditors and legally attain the past titles,this of course they will not do,because the new Board is Governed by a convicted criminal,who hasnt got the moral fibre to pay the old cos. debts.(nor the cash.)Subsequently the website will not change until the liquidation process is completed.
Make no bones about it,the shareholders WILL win the Res 12 argument and the titles (won by cheating)will be stripped.

Steve
5 years ago

Will they aye? We’ll see. It’s not going well so far it is it? Oh, I forgot, there is the letter.
The rest of the world shall continue to be astounded by the whole thing.
That is very strange; the UEFA site references Rangers beating Dundee 4-0 in March 2016. They must be a right confused lot over at UEFA. Or maybe you are just so blind with hate. Maybe you should send them the “letter”.

mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve

It is going well,if you refuse to see that, then that is your perogative,Res 12 is ongoing and will achieve its aim,namely that the governance of Scottish fitba is corrupt and it Will get rid of the cheats within the SFA.
I do not hate anyone but pity a club that pretends to be something that its not.
Pay your debts to your Queen and all the other debtors,rescind the titles that you won by cheating,show humility and accept that you cheated Scottish clubs out of money that was rightfully theres.Then get rid of the criminals who govern your club.Stop clutching at straws,websites mean nout its the truth that counts,you know that and so do I.

Steve
5 years ago

Glad to hear you say that! Feels like a breakthrough here – websites mean nowt. Basically this Res 12 nonsense has featured nowhere else with no-one serious willing to touch it. If anyone does, I shall return and offer a full apology. I am certain that no-one credible will touch it because it reeks of lunacy and a real desperation of stretching half-truths and coincidences to be a mass conspiracy.

andybhoy
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve

What a wank you are.

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve

ffs andybhoy you must have got to close to wee steves self image the zombies fucked off ha ha

Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

In English please Charlie. Do keep up.

mike
5 years ago

Websites refer to the UEFA website,forums are an expression of opinions, I have expressed mine and you have chosen to ignore
or comment on any of my opinions.The last resort of the confused.You mainly have replied to the other posters who have responded with there opinions,including your dig at the (I work in the mornings)therebye insuating that they are not employed,ignoring that most posts are completed with mobile telephones.
I will look forward to your apology next year when the Court cases are finished and your past Chairman is jailed,when the one before him loses his Knighthood for duplicity and your current one is jailed for fraud.
Now unfortunately I have to return to work and as you have not considered my opinions,I will leave the Forum to you.
Knock yourself out.

5 years ago

talking to a Hun is like stoating yer napper aff a wall.If you dont adhere to there mentakity.your a hater or a conspiracy nut.Let them Be.TiocFaidh ArLa and it is coming.As Aunt Sally stated.Rangers dont do walking,They do Brassing there Case.Theyve no Shame,What a Neck they have.Hand back the Tainted titles,Its not like we want them.We did our 9 lng Ago.Show integrity Sportsmanship and the hardest one of all.DECENCY

Steve
5 years ago

KWS, if you are going to contribute to this, please type cohesively. Those random capitals are an eyesore.

It’s hard to argue against the fact that you’re a conspiracy nut when you type like a loony.

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve

bumped any charities lately zombie

5 years ago

Stevie Wonder,Deny deflect and deception.Typical Hunnery tactics oh and the Conspiracy Card.Yep Steve in the Blue part of Glesga we are all Paranoid Conspiracy Theorists.You just havent a grasp on reality Mister Wonder.Oldco were bent over backwards and had the back door kicked clean off the hinges by money grabbing greedy Sheisters.Is it any wonder why our game is in the state its in.I,d bet my life on it.All if not most of the SFA and SPFL are mostly Masonic or Orangemen.Thats not paranoia,Actions dictate how your Club always seems to get a pass.The shits hit the fan,Long may you lot suffer,Deluded,Im certain not everyone who thinks just how you and your kind think,Doesnt leave much room for sentiment.We know whats going on.Time will reveal the Rotten Lot and that day cant come soon enough.You lot dont do Fair Play.End Of

5 years ago

Steve,Ever tried typing on a mobile device.Oot n Aboot.Im done here.Think yourself lucky.Anyone on here even debates with you.We could yack n yack.But to be perfectly straight with you.I dont do wasting my Time

5 years ago

Great Work Lads.Keep up the fight.RESPECT!!!Weed out the Rot.

Steve
5 years ago

“.I,d bet my life on it.All if not most of the SFA and SPFL are mostly Masonic or Orangemen”

Please visit your local hospital promptly. I fear your life depends on it my friend.

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve

it will be yer king dave the rave and glib and shameless who will be visiting wonga . com for a wee tap zombie

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve

when are you going to confess about the charity bumpin ya wee zombie ye

Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

I’ve never “bumped” any charity. If anyone has then surely that’s a police matter? You should report it.

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve

bet wee steve only washes the windaes doon the masons lodge while anyone wae a big apron fucks his daughters like i said more to be pitied

kws
5 years ago

Steve,Is the SFA and Newco trustworthy.LoL.You support a Basketcase of a club.And you question my Sanity.lolol.aye nae bother Mucka.Good Luck in life.You need it,M8.Stevie Wonder.Your here for what exactly?.To get whats best for our game.Or your Agenda.ZOMBIEEEEE

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