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Celtic Diary Saturday January 9: It’s Cup Weekend !

For those of you who doubt the veracity of the “news ” in this diary, check the date on yesterdays….proof of progress? Well, it seems the Diary is going backwards. Thanks to Susan Murphy for pointing out what no-one else seemed to notice. Including me, living here in my sepia toned nostalgic paradise.

By the way, the comments were much improved yesterday, and hopefully we’ve now seen the last of the wee swipes at other supporters. I got in last night, read through them, and there was an overall return to common sense.

There are a lot of sensible remarks that could lead to articles in there own right, and if any of you feel like expanding on a particular theme, don’t hesitate to do that. Just send it to us, and don’t worry about whether or not you think its great prose.

You’ve seen the diary.

To tidy things up, last word on the “unacceptable ” Pavekl Srinicek ” remark. I’ll accept it was in bad taste, which puts it on a par with nearly every other remark made over the last four years or so on this page. So, if I’ve offended anyone, then you can rest assured that wasn’t the intention.

And you’ll be pleased to know that I decided not to run with the line about Eastenders bosses maybe missing  a trick with this years christmas special.

Finally, and I mean finally finally, isn’t it odd that one or two are outraged that offence may be caused by my remarks, whilst condemning others as sensitive souls who can;t take a bit of banter ?

It’s Scottish Cup weekend, and the hoops are starting the third leg of the quest for a treble in Stranraer, a side Celtic have played twice in previous years, winning both times and therefore can approach the game with confidence.

The first game was in January 1988, and Celtic won 1-0 at Celtic Park, on the way to the famous centenary double, and in January 2001 Celtic won 4-1 on the coast on the way to a famous treble.

2 captains

So, the omens are good.

There is always a chance of a shock result at this stage, as anyone who can cast their minds back ten years will remind you.

Clyde players celebrate following their shock Scottish Cup win against Celtic in 2006

I think I’m in the stand behind these players, calling for the head of Gordon Strachan, Roy Keane , Peter Lawwell and Dermot Desmond.

My overriding memory of that day was the hunger and enthusiasm of the Clyde players, who immediately from kick off moved en masse towards the ball and in a way that was reminiscent of a fox hunt, chased it down in packs all through the game.

This after a bit of a circus around the appearance of Roy Keane, who had finally secured a move to a big club after years of playing in provincial England.

As I recall, the sun was in my eyes for the first half, and I expected, as Celtic were playing into it in the first half, for a comeback in the second. It didn’t happen, as Clyde didn’t let it.

So , you can’t be too careful when you play the wee teams, and like last years cup game against Second Rangers, we need to remember that for these clubs, its the biggest game of their season, and they will be up for it.

Stand in captain Mikael Lustig had a note of caution for his team mates, and warned that Celtic need to be on the ball from the off.

‘I respect every footballer and if your attitude is not right it is hard to win duels,’ Lustig explained.

‘At set-pieces, there is a not a lot of difference between teams so we need to be switched on and ready for them from the start.

‘We have to treat it like a normal game. The coaches have had a look at them and we will have a look at them tomorrow morning.

‘I have been in this situation before. It’s January and the surface might be quite bad, as well, so we have to go there and get a good start in the game. We have to be focused.

‘It’s all about attitude. When you look at the papers, we are big favourites but we if we don’t go in with a 100-per-cent attitude then it can be hard.’

The attitude of the players has been questioned once or twice this season, and as the second half begins, this will be more under scrutiny than any other aspect of the match.

On paper, Celtic should win comfortable, but Stranraer will have other ideas.

Chris Sutton is salivating at the prospect of a Stranraer win, as in his view, it will be the end for Deila.

It’ll certainly make things a little uncomfortable, and will turn a few more fans into the Ronny Out camp, and the Diary might be a little , er, emotional on Monday, but isn’t that something to deal with if it happens, instead of looking forward to it like a kid on christmas morning ?

Sutton said;

...if Celtic were to be one of the victims at Stranraer tomorrow there would be absolute carnage at Parkhead next week.

Crashing out of the Scottish Cup at Stair Park is unthinkable and if the worse was to happen Ronny Deila would be as well hopping on to the first ferry leaving port.

I can’t see it happening but that is what is at stake when you are manager at Celtic.

You just don’t get away with losing these kind of ties.

It’s one thing going down to an Inverness, or even a Clyde, but to lose at Stranraer would leave Ronny with no way back.

Even a draw would see him under immense pressure.  

Oddly enough, Celtic have a bloody awful record against lower league sides in the Cup, and I’ve never yet seen a manager sacked on the back of it, ( Except Barnes, but he wasn’t a real manager. and anyway, he reckons he was sacked because he was black, and not because he lost to Inverness. )  but I’ll bow to Suttons superior knowledge because he’s played the game, and has the advantage of knowing how the professional mind works, including that neccesary will to win mentality that sets apart great teams and managers from the ordinary.

In fact, he’s hardly ever chucked it by getting himself sent off at Ibrox when the chips were down.

In recent years, Celtic have not done as well as could be expected against the wee teams, Morton, Clyde, Ross County, Inverness-when they weren’t a Premier side to name but a few, so whoever Deila puts on the park tomorrow, lets have none of this side to side footering about, and a little bit more directness.

We’ll preview the game in a little more detail tomorrow, because we might have a clearer picture of who is available, and who isn’t.

Anthony Stokes won’t be. John Collins has confirmed he’ll go out on loan.

“There are a number of clubs interesting in taking him on loan so he will go out on loan, He wants to go out and play matches and we think that is a good idea as well. He will go out but we don’t know where. 

“He won’t be forced to go somewhere he doesn’t want to go. That is not possible and it wouldn’t do anybody any favours, but I am sure he will have his own opinion about where he wants to go and we won’t stand in his way.

“There is always a way back, always, for every player. But he has competition for places here and there are other players fighting in the wider areas; Stuart Armstrong, Gary Mackay-Steven, Kris Commons, Callum McGregor, James Forrest. Everyone wants the first-team jersey but only two can get it.

“There are a lot of disappointed boys week in, week out and Stokesy has been one of them. You have to earn the right to get the jersey and when you get it, you need to cherish it.”  

And he more or less added that if everyone is happy with it, Stokes will be re-united with John Hughes at Inverness, and probably score the winner against us in the Cup.

“He has got to go somewhere where he knows he is going to play because there is no point in going somewhere to sit on the bench. It has to be a club where he is more or less guaranteed a starting place to get up his match fitness.

“Stokesy has a lot of talent but he has to get game time. He hasn’t had it with us and he needs it. It is up to him to go somewhere, get his game time, get his head down, get refocused on his football and thinking about football only.

“Yogi put him on the map at Falkirk and ignited his career and then when he was back at Hibs he reignited his career.

“It has proved in the past to be a good combination and they have been good for each other. It would be a good club for him. They play a very similar style of football to us and they would be good for him.

“Yogi is always nipping my ear. Let’s just say there’s been one or two phone calls. But I can understand why Yogi wants Stokesy.” 

Collins and Hughes play golf together, and probably talk about this sort of thing to alleviate the boredom that comes with a game where you hit a ball as hard as you can and then trudge off after it. Wee tip. Don’t hit it so hard.

Back to the Cup, and undoubtedly the tie of the round is Hearts against Aberdeen, which due to archaic SFA rules will not allow both teams to exit, but one of them out of the way is the next best thing.

You have to admire the Hearts advert to get their fans to go to the game;

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From Celtic Early Years on twitter comes a picture of the very first Celtic team to win the cup back in 1892;

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Maybe marketing could get on this, as there is certainly a demand for retro strips these days, and this one, complete with false moustache, could be a winner.

As for further transfer gossip, who better to ask than Celtic Gossip, who does a weekly round up of this sort of thing…

celtic gossip

Anyway, I’m off. got a few things to do today, as the wife and I are going to a cops and robbers theme party tonight. Well, I’ll be going. she’s to sit in the car with the engine running.

We’ve a new neighbour , by the way. He’s an aberdeen fan, and hthis morning, as he gets the place into shape, he’s got his partner out sorting the back lawn. This afternoon he’ll be dragging her round the front to eat the rest.

He works in a place where they test their products on animals, which is a bit iffy. Especially as they make hammers.

hope I haven’t offended anyone…

Now, another caption competition, to follow yesterdays, where my favourite answer was the one about not walking away, but rowing away.

Oh, by the way….Steven Fletcher…pre contract ?

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delbhoy
8 years ago

Lets hope some of the fringe players get a chance in this game and show what they can do. And maybe just maybe play griffiths and cifti up top. Aw damn i just woke up!

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  delbhoy

Yep I would hope O’Connell get’s a start at CB and perhaps Allan and Mackay-Steven.
I think 3 changes is probably as many as you want to make if it’s not forced through injury.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

You do realise O’Connell is just back from injury and you want to play him on a poor surface in an away Scottish cup tie?
Hmmmm
Did you play football at any level?

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Yep 20 years man and boy indoor and outdoor on Black ash Red Blaze and Grass in 4 Countries on 2 Continents.
O’Connell played 60 minutes against Partick for the Development squad.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

So you should know that isn’t enough time to be ready for the first team in such a tricky away fixture?
If he had played two or three games since returning from injury, then maybe!

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

The Club will determine whether he’s fit enough I hope he is and plays about time we produced our own CB’s it’s been a while.
Boyata has hardly set the heather alight so maybe it’s a chance for O’Connell?

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

” The club will decide if he is fit “?
Err, obviously!
My point is 60 mins in a development game isn’t enough game time on a return from injury, to be considered for the first team.

I don’t need the club to confirm that to make my mind up.
As for the club rearing our own first team players?
Nothing gives me greater pleasure….son!

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

I hope he’s fit and if fit I hope he plays.
The Bhoy deserves a chance.
Like I said it’s condescending patter so I will refrain from using it again.
We are all equals on here.
HH

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  delbhoy

delbhoy,
Fringe players?
I think we should maybe play it safe here, this will be a difficult game….If it’s on.

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Getting a bit milder down in Stranraer, although I don’t know if the rain will cause a problem. Ayrshire is currently improving, though still resembles ice station zebra.

Dan the Msn
8 years ago
Reply to  delbhoy

Del , If I was Ronny I would play my strongest team in every game from now until The Treble is secured. He will be slaughtered by the anti Ronny brigade if we drop out of any competition . So why risk it? Injury and suspension permitting. I might go for a different shape to the team though tomorrow.☘☘☘

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Dan the Msn

….so I take it the ‘let’s all get behind Ronny Brigade ‘ would be cool of we went out a cup or two?
All part of the development eh?

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago

Early Spiderman B movie cum shot…

bgbhoy
8 years ago

i have no problem with sutton saying that if ronnys team lose this game then he will be sacked as i have no doubts thats the case!! for anyone at the game last week will surely be in agreement.. there was about 25k fans there?? for the 2nd of jan?? a 3pm kick off on a saturday? despite what people on here would say with there stats and league cup double shouts… the celtic fans that ACTUALLY GO to the games have had enough!! ronny came in promising high pressing attacking football, entertainment in other words and who can honestly say we have seen it week in week out? why do you think ronny asked to be judged in europe? its because he knew that the scottish league is not a fair marker for testing his side!! call me a hun or whatever for this ‘right to win everything’ but the facts are we should be with our vast budget and resources!! it was a nice try to try something new but this guy cannot deliver!!!!! RONNY OUT

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

bgbhoy,
Fully in agreement!

Phaco
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Take it to the bone, Sutton is spot on. I watched a few ytubs of Martins teams today and they were something else. If John Collins thinks that we need that shower of shite back then either he or me can fuck off. Hh

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Phaco

Suttons a knob he’s been on Deilas back since day one.
Decent player total soup taking tosser now he’s taking the dirty pound from the Rangord.

andybhoy
8 years ago

When the time comes and Sevco finally go the way of the previous entity to play out of the crumbledome, Celtic’s marketing gurus come up with this enormous jelly and ice cream cone.
As the bumph on their marketing spiel states
‘Gorge yourself whenever, wherever, you’ll never need to go without’
Also doubles as a lethal weapon, terms and conditions apply.

Only £19.67 + VAT.. available at all Celtic FC official outlets.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

Marketing?
I would have signed Steven Ireland, years ago and given him the number 32 shirt!

Let the people sing!

Monti
8 years ago

Ralph,
I unreservedly accept your apology for the Pavel Srnicek ‘ joke ‘!
Late as it was…ahem.
As for your ” odd ” remark aimed at my good self, there is a world of difference between between Charlie Saiz getting all upset because I called him a twat and you ‘ joking ‘ about a recently deceased goalkeeper, if you cannot see that then that isn’t my problem, it’s yours.

Steven Fletcher on a pre-contract?
Definitely yes for me, we should have signed him from Hibs a few years back,Fletcher is still at a good age and would be happy to see him up front beside Griffiths.

Deila out!

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

I’m not upset Monti you have no relevance son.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Charlie Saiz,
You are upset, that is why you said yesterday you would not be conversing with some posters.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

The fact I am conversing with you should tell you something.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

It tells me everything…..

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Decent answer, I’ll give you that!

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

I’ll give you the ” son ” bit because you are older and slower than me….

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

That will be the last time I use that Monti.
It’s fairly condescending patter.
I probably am slower my ankles are knackered now.
Back in the day though I was fairly quick you need that as a CF.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

You realise that if I was playing against you, you wouldn’t have an ankle 🙂

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Many tried.
I used to love handing guys like you the ball after putting in their net.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Charlie Saiz,
On what console?

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Oh I’m sure a few of them were consoled after the defeat sunk in 😉

8 years ago

Bgbhoy, agree 100% with you, the last thing we’re witnessing under Ronny is fast paced, attacking entertaining football, couldn’t be any further away from that, he’s had his 18 months he’s tried his experiment out on Celtic, it certainly hasn’t worked in Europe and i don’t see it working domesticly, although people will point out that he still has a shot at the treble, fine, but but would you buy the dvd nxt season of that treble and enjoy watching it..didn’t think so.RONNY OUT….KTF

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Keighley Bhoy

@Keighley Bhoy
Do you not think that the loss of Brown plus the poor form of Armstrong and Johansen may have had an affect on the energy and effectiveness in midfield?

S MacFarlane
8 years ago

Fellas would you ever sort your differences out over a pint. This in house falling out is a bit tiresome.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  S MacFarlane

Agreed though some folk just can’t let things drop unfortunately.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  S MacFarlane

S.Mcfarlane,
I would but I don’t think Charlie Saiz could handle a pint…
Maybe a shandy….

celtsfan67
8 years ago

Steven Fletcher!? God help us all. Would rather have Norman Stanley Fletcher

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  celtsfan67

Who’s been eating my porridge?

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  celtsfan67

Celtsfan67,
I don’t get where you are coming from at all, Now before I go on I’m not saying Steven Fletcher is a world beater or anything of the sort.
When you look at the strikers we have at our disposal ( outwith Griffiths), how can you say Steven Fletcher wouldn’t do us a right good turn?
He is a first pick for the national side and more importantly he is a Celtic fan who apparently wants to come and play for the club.

He has had his injury issues over the years, but so did John Hartson, I think getting Fletcher on a free would be a good bit of business by the club. HH

Honest Hoops
8 years ago

As we are being proper gentlemen, I would also like to take this opportunity to apologise for my remark in a previous diary that offended any of my fellow
Tims,…..Big Dave Knew!!!!

wolfie bhoy
8 years ago

agree with Monti about Pavel joke Isuppose better late than never with apology.Lets move on and keep it light hearted and funny the Celtic way HAIL HAIL.

Honest Hoops
8 years ago
Reply to  wolfie bhoy

Wolfe, agree, light hearted humour from now on….

Big Shuggy
8 years ago

“There is always a way back, always, for every player. But he has competition for places here and there are other players fighting in the wider areas; Stuart Armstrong, Gary Mackay-Steven, Kris Commons, Callum McGregor, James Forrest.

John this what frustrates Celtic fans Stokes and commons “fighting in the wide areas” WHY? and i didn’t realize McGregor was a winger i am sure he wasn’t playing on the wing for notts county when he scored 12 goals. maybe someone could corret me if i am wrong.

delbhoy
8 years ago

Agreed charlie siaz gms and allan will provide much needed entertainment. Really want allan to grab his chance and have a great game. Monti i think were safe against this mob tho with us you never know ! Surely we cant go with one up front tho

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  delbhoy

Allan could be the natural replacement for Commons I think.
If we were to go 2 up I would like to see us deploy the 3-5-2 again push both WB’s up the park a bit.

………….Bailly

…Lustig Simunovic Ambrose

Wardrop ..McGregor Johansen…Izzy
……………Allan

…….Commons
………………Griffiths

Timothy
8 years ago

It would be great if Stokesy spent time away somewhere playing competitive first team football and returned with his shooting boots properly laced up and raring to go. i
It would be even better if he took Cifci and Cole with him.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Timothy

Timothy,
Stokes needs support not sent out on loan, where is Deila’s man management skills?
What do way pay Jim McGuinness for?

I would take Stokes into my office, find out what is wrong with him, if it’s personal stuff, fucking give him a hand with it, we all need help at times.
A happy player will be a good player.

Stokes, in this current Celtic squad should be included, not excluded!

Help him for fuck sake!

Big Shuggy
8 years ago

When General Augusto Pinochet died i celebrated with a pint. when Thatcher died i sang ding dong the witch is dead and had a full on sesh. I bet a few on here complaining about the Pavel Srnicek joke did the same.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Big Shuggy

PAVEL SRNICEK WASN’T A MURDERING BASTARD!

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Big Shuggy

Pavel Srnicek didn’t heap untold misery and death on millions of people… deary, deary me.

delbhoy
8 years ago

Just saw cifti is suspended , jesus we are down to the bare bones. Is cole even still there or is he just the social convenor ala terry mcdermot haha

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  delbhoy

delbhoy,
At least Terry Mac looked fit!

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  delbhoy

What about Ambrose? Must be suspended, surely? 🙂

Devoy45
8 years ago

We all need some football. I see where the Hamilton game has been re-scheduled for Tuesday 19th. What is the pitch at Stranraer like? Is the game likely to go ahead? Is there a pitch inspection tomorrow? When?

kris
8 years ago
Reply to  Devoy45

Pitch is fine Devoy(ken 2 o the players) ,pretty mild comparatively Doon that way

mike
8 years ago

I always liked Sutty as a player, mind you playing alongside Henke would make a one legged parrot look good.
Much as we may agree with some of his comments,he and other past players taking money from Level 5 shitehawks,the gutter press and the Bigoted B.B.C.leaves a bad taste.
Anthony Stokes for ICT?to J.C golfing pal,may as well,its clear hes not going to get any game time here,why? indisiplin or maybe his face disny fit in wlth all this Dietry,Sports Sycology,high pressing,high tempo,quick passing fitba,what ever happened to that? well it disapeared with some of my posts on here.
George Connelly could pass a ba 50 yards with check,brought up playing with tennis bas on ash or ploughed fields,these guys had talent bags of it.Whatever they had you couldnt coach.Just look out for the talent Celtic and btw bring back Davey Hay.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

Mike,

” I wouldn’t have been half the player or scored half the goals I did at Blackburn Rovers, without Chris Sutton ” – Alan Shearer.

I’m sure Henrik would Concur, Chris Sutton was a gladiator for Celtic, great signing and a great player!

mike
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Monti,

I wouldnt/couldnt argue with that,everybody has to make a living and im aware that Sutty had his monetory problems,its just him taking cash from the gutter press that sticks in my craw.I will never forgive or forget that papers gloryfying edition on the (unprintable B—–)Billy wright.

ewanbhoy
8 years ago

Where has it all gone wrong this season ? or should I ask why has it gone wrong. ?
Lets go back to last season, and after a shaky start, we really clicked after the new year and we were playing really good football. Everything was looking good and we all though Ronny was the man and that CL qualification was a certainty for this season but as we all know that didn’t happen, but why ?
I put it down to a few reasons but the first and biggest reason I think was the lack of a summer break at the end of last season. Most of our players only got 2 weeks off which is no where near enough time for your body and mind to properly rest and recover……so our whole team started this season burnt-out…nothing in the tank….running on fumes and it shows.
Why else would so many of our top performers suddenly become so poor ? From the very start of this season you could see the lack of energy in the team and alot of players with heavy legs and as the season has gone on we are getting worse as the confidence of the team has dropped so much and we have lost the winning mentality too.
Another factor for this is losing our 2 best defenders this season. We now have a defence that leaks goals almost every game and this again drains the confidence of the whole team.
All these factors are why we have gone backwards and look lost at the moment and the next big question is can Ronny get us back on track and playing the kind of football we want see ?
For me it’s still yes and this because he proved last season that he can get the team playing great football, I think of the game against Inter Milan where we played some fantastic football against a top European team shine’s out in my mind.
Ronny has alot to do and yes his time is running low but some quality signings, getting the defence sorted and giving the squad at least 4 weeks rest at the end of this season then I believe we will be ready for the CL next season and again I go back to last season as a reminder that Ronny can and did have us playing good football and he will get us back to and better than that next season…….but he must start now and show it in the next few months……come on Ronny don’t let me down….don’t let Celtic down.

HH

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  ewanbhoy

” next season “???

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Not at any time did many think Deila was the man.

mike
8 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

Andybhoy,

Absolutely correct.

ewanbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

So last season when we played Inter and came so close to the treble and playing good football you are saying only a few fans believed in Ronny ? Most Celtic fans wanted him out even then ?
So all the fans at the games doing the Ronny roar was a minority? The same as a minority of fans sang sectarian songs at ibrox last week ?
Total rubbish, some fans may still have had their doubts but by the end of last season the vast majority had definitely bought into what Ronny was doing. Unfortunately things haven’t gone well this season and it’s only now that the majority have lost believe in Ronny but there are still many who think he can do a good job for us but time will tell.

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  ewanbhoy

I and many of my friends who go to the games through thick and thin have never rated him and the Ronny Roar has been or was an embarrassment and I and many, if you cared to look around you, never partook in that nonsense.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  ewanbhoy

Great post on the money with that Ewan.
HH

schoosh71
8 years ago

At the High Court in Edinburgh today, Sir David Murray produced a piece of evidence, that he said ” allowed Craig Whyte to pass the ‘sniff test'” whereby he got a resounding, unprompted applause from the Judge and Jury. HH

charlie
8 years ago

no offence but sutton is a souptaker he would walk about backwards if you paid him wrap up well its fucking baltic today

maryhillbhoy
8 years ago

Ewan enjoy just to check you are in fact saying jam tomorrow???
You don’t think that perhaps if our issue this season has been player tiredness then maybe with the resources at. His disposal Ronnie and the coaching staff should maybe have addressed this through squad rotation, just a thought!!

ewanbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  maryhillbhoy

The spine of our team from last season is gone from this season. 3 players made us the team we were last season and a good team at that.
1 big Virgil at the back gone.
2 Brown, and even before he got injured his form was way down from last season – reason burnt out
3 Johanson, gone from player of the year to garbage – reason burnt-out.
The loss of this spine has had a huge negative impact on the team and what we need is to get another strong spine in place, otherwise the rest of the team will flop.

Andy
8 years ago
Reply to  ewanbhoy

Never really considered burn out, but that totally makes sense. All those internationals then straight into qualifying. Nice point mate.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Andy

Fatigue could be down to the increased tempo throughout last Season Johansen especially he played in over 50 games.

BroxburnBhoy
8 years ago

Could someone define what offensive and what is satire? I’m unsure as it seems some of it is deemed offensive by some and some of it deemed offensive by others. Any definition to help me?

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  BroxburnBhoy

Making jokes about Thatchers death = Not offensive
Making jokes about a Newcastle Goalies death= Offensive

Hope that clears it up for you Bb 😉

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  BroxburnBhoy

Let’s just move on 🙂

mike
8 years ago
Reply to  BroxburnBhoy

Broxburnbhoy,

Its offensive if i say it.

Its not offensive if CharlieSaiz throws his dummy out the pram acts offended,calls me sweary words and accuses me of showing my Erchie.
Btw Charlie ive been told by various ex lady freinds that its the best one they have ever seen.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

Cool story.

mike
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Charie Saiz,

Are we talking now pal?

Ive missed your pis/sorry stats.Cmon Charlie you got a public yes a public apology, what more do you want?

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

More cool stories.

mike
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

O.K.here we go.

The Apology Wrap.
Common now Cherlie get a grip
take a toady and Lemsip
You had a smile for Monti and WTF rhymes wi Andybhoy ooh
spread your joy with Andybhoy
nows the time to give it up
a wee smile for Mikey
and then ill shut the feck up.

Hows that Neebs.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

Life’s to short Mike no children or animals were hurt during these exchanges I think we should just draw a line and move on.
HH

maryhillbhoy
8 years ago

Sorry ewan wee spot of other with predictive text 🙂

delbhoy
8 years ago

I couldnt stop laughing when king kenny brought his mate up here and gave him a job organising days out lol . Bit harsh on sutton charlie , the guy has to earn a living. He is just like us , anyone who saw our last euro defeat and big chrises rant could see he cares about celtic and he is just being honest.

three goals spring to mind when i think of the big man , the first goal in the 6 2 humping of our undead rivals at parkhead. The magnificent volley in the juventus game which was probably thebest game i ever attended. The third one was even better, the bullet header which allmost burst the net in amsterdam. What a goal that was. The big mans a legend in my book, gave us great goals and memories, and he came out and said dunfermline lay down to the huns!

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  delbhoy

Very true delbhoy, similar to some slightly milder abuse meted out to big Packie. Some people can’t take what is generally staring them in the face.

charlie
8 years ago
Reply to  delbhoy

imo he was right about dunfermline but that was in our paranoid days or so they telt us now we are obsessed ha ha

charlie
8 years ago
Reply to  charlie

wee jc supershit dunfermline manager put in place by the knghted one only in scotland

Dan the Msn
8 years ago
Reply to  delbhoy

So you should just sell yourself to The Dark Sode Del?and expect the paying public to back you because you played well for the club in the past. Davy Provan Anffy Walket Charlie Nicholas all just a bunch of ex Celtic traitors . Give me Darren O’Dea any time still backing the club . We should have brought him back and made him Captain and you would have seen the backbone return to our back four. Sutton was a good player but failed in business and in management so what gives him the right to call for any Celtic Mamagers head?☘☘☘

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Dan the Msn

Dan,
Because he loves the club, that will always do for me!

delbhoy
8 years ago

I never heard packie andy , was he being honest and not towing the lawell/celtic party line

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  delbhoy

Absolutely straight and to the point and in his gentle Irish persona.

Dan the Msn
8 years ago
Reply to  delbhoy

I have already expressed my disappointment on Packie on here. He is falling into line with his BBC masters . Have you ever listened to Liam McLeod. having an orgasm every time Celtic lose. a goal . How can Packie sit beside him and listen to the shite he spouts during commentary. Oh I forgot he too needs to earn a living. Funny how you never hear this from the Dead teams ex players in commentary do they have different contracts clauses?☘☘☘

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Dan the Msn

Clown!

Dan the Msn
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Monti Shhh!

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  delbhoy

delbhoy,
Are you listening to these fucks turning against our Packie?

What’s fucking going on?

Dan the Msn
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Monti Shhh!

Devoy45
8 years ago

kris: Thanks for the update on the Stranraer pitch. I’m older than many on this forum (65) but I’m younger than a few like Tom Campbell and Pensionerbhoy but I think most of you can remember 25 years ago or so. Some of you talk about “the worst Celtic team you’ve ever seen” and some even refer to Ronny Deila when you say that!! Why not go back to something you may remember: 1989-1990 under Billy McNeill
We won 10, drew 14 and lost 12. We were 17 points behind leaders (Huns) and only 10 points off relegation. We won only 10 matches out of 36. We finished fifth in a league of 10! Fortunately I wasn’t around in the 1940’s when things were seriously bad. 1989-90 was the worst Celtic team that I can remember really well. Let’s count our blessings! Tomorrows,Celtic, put on a show but let our youngsters show what they can do. Hail, hail.

ewanbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Devoy45

I was 18 or 19 in that season and I can remember being worried that we might have been relegated. I think with 6 games left we were only 4 points above the relegation zone. Those truly were dark days back then. I think success has spoilt us as winning is no longer good enough for many fans.

ewanbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  ewanbhoy

I was also at everyone of the games that season home and away.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Devoy45

Spot on.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Devoy45

Yep either poor ,short or selective memories.
Spot on

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Devoy45

Devoy,
I see you are 65, I have just turned 44, I never in my life have taken success for granted.
I remember only too well the days under the old board, I was young but was watching the older guys and listening to what they were saying at that time.
I remember being in the Celtic end as the Huns went 0-3 up in no time, I was watching Celtic fans fighting with each other.
I have seen the other side of the coin, the unsuccessful side, I remember breaking up with my girlfriend the night we got beat off Raith Rovers in ’94, she didn’t get it, watching those cunts win 9 in a row changed me, my hatred of them burned in me.

All I ever want is a Celtic team that fights like fucking Lions and shows pride in our Hooped shirt, nothing else matters.
If Ronny Deila thinks he has Celtic firing on all cylinders, he is fucking deluded!

The place needs a lift Bhoys.
Tiocfaidharla!

Thewildgoose
8 years ago
Reply to  Devoy45

Spot on Devoy45

Susan Murphy
8 years ago

There’s got to be a better way to stop us licking our fleas.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Susan Murphy

You can use spot on 😉

Andy
8 years ago

Um my posts are not appearing.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Andy

Pity that…

Uralius
8 years ago

One and all I formerly Andy have changed to Uranus. Due to me constantly being confused when people refer to Andybhoy.

Uralius
8 years ago

*Uralius

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago

Statistically that’s the most I have used the term spot on in a single day on E Tims.
Proving beyond any doubt Deila must be given more time 😉
Apologies if any of you have had to break out the Gypsy Creams after reading this.. 😉

iancelt59
8 years ago

Monti
I dont think fletcher is any better than stokes they are almost the same player though fletcher probably likes elvis.

Unless the 4231 is dropped i think ronny is more inclined to be looking at wingers and number 10s and a holding midfielder. and hopefully a centre back.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  iancelt59

iancelt,
That is your opinion man, I think Fletcher, a fit Fletcher would do a real good job for Celtic.

Just my opinion m8!

iancelt59
8 years ago

Or zippy full backs that cant tackle

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  iancelt59

Wee Wardrop looks a player Ian (he also has a look of a young King Kenny about him too)If he can make the breakthrough that would be fabulous having 2 home grown FB’s in the first team.
Could save us a fortune in the long run.

8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

🙁 : 😉 😀

8 years ago
Reply to  Jimthetim

🙂 oops

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Charlie Saiz,
There is NOTHING better than seeing a young Celtic player from the youth squad, coming into the first team and STAYING there!

I remember the late Tommy Burns saying, ” Making it with Celtic wasn’t getting a game and never being seen again, making it with Celtic, was getting into the team, staying there and winning things “!

Kieran Tierney is on the right path, he is making me proud!

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

I seen him at Goodison last year Monti he came on with 30′ minutes to go and you could see he was a player right away.
He stood out among some fancied players too Henderson Kone etc he and Lindsay stood out.
I believe Izzy’s days as first choice are going to be behind him soonas Kieran has been solid in every game I think and very consistent.
Wardrop at RB is another he could well be in with a strong chance too.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Let’s hope so Charlie, but the level of performance has to go through the roof soon, this is Celtic Charlie, it has to be flourishing….always!

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Yes I agree it does have to improve and tomorrow might just be the perfect way to kick on.
If we can dish out a wee spanking it might just kickstart the season properly.
Failure should not be an option for our players tomorrow.

dunnahow
8 years ago

We are never going to sack Ronny whilst we are top of the league and still in both cups ,yous who keep saying it should be phoning into level 5s Clyde 1 show they would really love to hear from yous,they love nothing better than Ronny bashers,what if we did get a new management team and they were more shite,the football might have been shite the past few games but no reason to bash Ronny and get him the sack,we will come good again ,no thanks to all you top of the league supporters,Mon the hoops

Dan the Msn
8 years ago
Reply to  dunnahow

You will get a Monti Mollicating for that post dunna but I am on your side.☘☘☘

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Dan the Msn

Dan,
Stop Trolling and say something constructive….

Dan the Msn
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Monti
Think you have that the wrong way round mate. I commented supporting another posters positive comment why did you feel the need to respond to me? That is trolling! Stop responding so aggressively when people don’t share your opinion.☘☘☘

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Dan the Msn

Dan,
You used my name to do your usual point scoring, expect a response to that.
If you don’t want me to comment on your posts, then leave my fucking name out of yours….friendo!

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Dan the Msn

” I am on your side “?
Are we all not on the same side like FFS?

Celtic first and Celtic last and Celtic overall?
Do you know this song, Dan?

Dan the Msn
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Monti
Did you read the post I responded to? It was in support of Ronny. It was therefore the antithesis of what you believe so on this matter we are on different sides of the debate the gist of my point. Why the rant about being Celtic Supprters and quoting lines of a song ? Means nothing as you obviously missed the point.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Dan the Msn

Oh for fuck sake grow up!

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  dunnahow

dunnahow,
Very odd….

Iancelt67
8 years ago

I made one of my trips back home to scotland in 1990
I watched celtic v dunfermiline (lost 2-1) at the celtic end. For 90 minutes the crowd ripped into joe miller. It was depressing as fuck compounded by getting abused in the city centre by ugly rangers fans earlier in the day. I had an aussie girlfriend with me. Lol she was petrified by it all and ran off to lewises to spend more of my money. Dark days indeed

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Iancelt67

See when you chucked her did she come back?

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Try the kangaroo steak…

iancelt59
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

No but she was vast downunder

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  iancelt59

Hehe that’s aboriginal 😉

ewanbhoy
8 years ago

I think it was mid 90’s when things had been so bad for so long that we started to sing”always look on the bright side of life”, it was our sense of humour that got us through those dark days. It was only later on when the Huns were shite that we started to sing it to them.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago

A wee reminder of how these games can pan out….

https://youtu.be/h_Q-85KYI44

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

A few years later….

https://youtu.be/yGcoWexmEpc

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Celtic squad:

Douglas

Vega Boyd Valgaeren

Agathe McNamara Thompson Petta

Larsson Sutton

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Celtic Team:

Bonner

Morris Whyte Aitken Baillie

Miller Grant McStay Burns

McAvennie Walker

Susan Murphy
8 years ago

Does my nose look big in this?

Susan Murphy
8 years ago

Have you still got some glue left in yours?

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Susan Murphy

Susan,
I think I like you xx

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Susan Murphy

UHU

Monti
8 years ago

I see Hearts beat Aberdeen?

Unlucky again Deek, shame that!

mike
8 years ago

Monti,

He.He.

See one of my Hertz tips for the future was man o the match again,Calum Paterson R.B.he would look good in the Hoops.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

Mike,
My late Dad said trust no man with a moustache!

mike
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Monti,

Tall strong on the ball a good tackeler,never ever bullied, good in the oppositions box,a traditional type defender, just what we need.,btw. Lustig wears a tache but sadly his hip injury means hes very much on the decline.
Sorry about your Da. mine passed on many years back,still miss the auld shit.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

I would only consider Paterson for the Hoops, if he got a haircut and shaved off his moustache…..

Dan the Msn
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

Agree Mile!

8 years ago

This is for you all my Celtic friends, I can’t watch this without crying

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Jimthetim

32 CSM!

GRAFFITI ON THE WALL…..

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Jimthetim

Jim,
This is how it should be, alas it can’t be every year.
But this place of ours like this, fills my heart with pride.
I love to see our support happy….we deserve it!

Monti
8 years ago

Could someone put a track up for me please?
Richard Ashcroft ‘ This thing called life ‘

Thanks.

8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Please don’t despair. We are an old club seen the good times and the bad. Monti & Chrlie Saize, Win Lose or Draw.We Love them.

🙂 😉 🙁 😀

Monti
8 years ago

PEARSE JORDAN

Goodbye my dear friend, we will not forget you!

Monti
8 years ago

H

Monti
8 years ago

Only our rivers run free…….

8 years ago

Sorry Moni mate don’w hat that is about.

Salad Queen
8 years ago

Now that the sheepies have only the league to win.Lawewell should punt his £million wages/bonus with McBookie at 16/1 for the premier title.If it comes up that’s the Coop debt nearly taken care of, as the present board only seem to be servicing this loan.
If not,nae big loss to Pete as he does fuck all for the Tic and even less at Hampden!
The proof will be in the next few weeks as a number of midweek matches coming shortly.We are still”fighting” for 3 trophies but playing pish.
Let’s get the finger oot starting today.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Salad Queen

Canny argue with any of that.

Bgbhoy
8 years ago

Ghetto that little shit Collins to fuck. Never mind getting credit when rrangers are in the league we will get no credit when you and Ronny are there!!!

mike
8 years ago
Reply to  Bgbhoy

Bgbhoy,

John Collins, we need Rangers,wtf is that all about?

He just canny keep his big mouth shut,he and his boss should be punted to fuck a bigger pair of arseholes you couldnt meet,nae wonder there is talk of dressing room unrest.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

Collins is out of touch with supporter feelings on this issue.
Disappointing comments from him.

Collins and Deila just can’t help themselves!

Devoy45
8 years ago

Monti, “only our rivers run free” a lovely song, you know it too? I think I first heard it properly on a Planxty album. One of the loveliest songs about Ireland (or anywhere else) that I can imagine.Brings tears to me eyes!

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