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Celtic Diary Thursday August 13: Ronny’s A Diddy Again

Or is he ?

This pathetically transparent Diary today attempts to make everyone forget the fact that I too, thought we should have cuffed Kilmarnock.Maybe their players read it pre match.

Or does it ?

 

 

Two minutes into last nights 2-2 draw with Kilmarnock Leigh Griffiths had put the Celts ahead, and the rest of the team began a game of shooty-in with the Kilmarnock defence.

Well, not so much shooty in as shooty at. As attempt after attempt went straight to the keeper, he grew in confidence, which in turn allowed the rest of the Killie side to get their danders up, and just before half time the inevitable happened and the Ayrshire side equalised when Virgil van Dijk and Emilio Izaguirre had a lapse of concentration , and Josh Magennis nipped in front of Efe ambrose to steer past Gordon.

As usual, Efe got the blame, but if you are ever in a crowd after a fracas, and the police arrived, if you look or point towards someone, they will get the blame. Thats how van Dijk manages to always seem to not be at fault.

You’ll notice Magennis steered the ball away from Gordon.

Have a look at this picture;

You are the striker.

Mark with an x where you would aim the ball.

The area that Celtic players aim at is already marked with a young man in gloves and shorts. Until that gets sorted, the side will continue to waste chances. It’s not about one up front, or two up front. It’s about where the players shoot toward.

But there was an exception last night. Nir Biton had three long range efforts in the second half. The first was low to the keepers right, forcing a save, the second screamed into the top corner, and the third, well, at least there was no chance of the keeper reaching it.

The dead ball situations need a bit of work as well. Stefan Johansen will surely admit it’s not his strong point. If he doesn’t, show him the tapes…

Only Charlie Mulgrew and Kris Commons offer any threat from the wide free kicks or corners, whilst van Dijk can curl one in from the edge of the box. But thats about it, and for a support used to seeing the likes of Moravcik and Nakamura, it’s not good enough. This is something that can be taught, and should be practiced.

What should also be taught is not to allow attacking players the chance to fall over and give a gleeful referee the chance to award a penalty. Izaguirres clumsy collision with the back of a forward meant that Crawford Allen had the excuse he wanted to deny the Celts a win. Watch it again. His arm was awarding the spot kick before the ball had even entered the box. Well, nearly, but certainly before the “tackle “.

In truth, the game should have been out of sight midway through the first half, but its not the first time a wasteful Celtic attack had been in evidence. This time, though,  the opposition kept going, and found an extra level.

Kallum Higginbotham, the badly spelt Kilmarnock penalty taker, said afterwards that it was all down to John Collins calling them shite ( paraphrase, but it’s what he meant )

“You’ve seen what their coaching staff have come out with this week and when you read stuff like that it just gives you that extra 10 per cent you need to go and run against them.

“Every team will now be looking at those comments and putting in a real shift to show we’re good enough to go against Celtic.

“They have the budget and resources and of course they’re going to run away with the league year in year out.

“But as long as we keep fighting against them, comments like that will only spur teams on. Is it a message that Celtic aren’t untouchable? Definitely.” 

Collins, as we know, was spot on with his comments. Today, he’s likely to add that the managers must be shite as well if it takes just a few words from him to bring their players  up to a higher level.

Perhaps the players are all very good, it’s just their managers and coaches who are piss poor.

Or maybe, as is more likely, Celtics failure to kill the game off allowed Killie to think that they could get something. A dodgy penalty , for instance.

 Come May, we’ll have forgotten all about this game. In fact, I already have.

Deila decided to rest a few players last night, and thise who stepped in didn’t really disappoint, early on , anyway, but as their fitness levels are perhaps not as high as the regulars, they began to tire on the unforgiving artificial pitch, which also left it’s mark on a couple of Celts, and although Ronny huffily said his changes were tactical after the game, the packing on Kris Common’s leg and the grimacing of James Forrest suggested otherwise. Thankfully, the omission of Scott Brown and Mikael Lustig meant that they will be ready for the weekend and the Malmo game.

The freshening up of the side, which is a good idea, meant that Stefan Johansen, the formations second goal threat, was withdrawn into a holding role. Tom Rogic got on the end if the type of chance that normally befalls the Norwegian, and he wasn’t quite sharp enough to deal with them.

Saidy Janko , at right back, got a bit of a shock when he realised he was playing at a higher level than he might have been led to believe, and it will be interesting to see if he can raise his game back to what it should be. Jason Denaayer last season had the same culture shock, but he adapted fairly quickly.

Another absentee was Stuart Armstrong, and while its difficult to see exactly what he adds to the team, its much easier to say that Celtic are not the same without him. We already know thats the case with Scott Brown, but Armstrong is a kind of support act. To defence, to midfield, and to the attack. For the other ten, he’s a sort of angel on the shoulder, looking out for them and prompting them, usually by just being in the right place at the right time.

Malmo had their coach at the game, Age Hareid, and he won’t have learned anything about the side last night. He’ll have seen what he expected. With no Brown, Armstrong ,Boyata , Lustig or Ciftci he knows it will be a different Celtic next Wednesday.

Diplomatically, he said;

Celtic rested a few players,I think they have more in hand. I have seen them a lot and I know they are a good side.

“We have the same problem in our league. We play teams lower down the league and they always lift themselves when they play against the big boys. When Celtic fire on all cylinders it will be more difficult for us.

“Celtic are better than Kilmarnock but Kilmarnock battled well and got back from 2-1 down. To play at Celtic Park you have to be brave and you have to find the right way of defending and the right way to attack. We need a very good away game at Celtic Park to have a chance to go through.”

What he will have noticed is that when the centre halves are not properly protected, they are vulnerable to being split apart. And all you have to do is to run at them, as they will back off, knock it wide and you will get a couple of crosses in against defenders who have been turned.

And who often don’t have a clue where the other defenders are, or what they are doing. This is a much more serious, and potentially damaging aspect of the way Celtic play, than , for instance, than whether or not van Dijk leaves, or if Izaguirre is on form.

Deila won’t be too concerned at the result, he won’t be too concerned with the ability of his fringe players, but he will be worried about the concentration levels in the side.

Hopefully, the better quality of Malmo will force the Celts to raise their game, to concentrate fully and take advantage of any goamouth opportunities that come our way.

Deila’s Celtic are getting there, but let’s hope its not one step forward and two steps back. We can be, and probably will be , our own worst enemy, and whilst it doesn’t require any major action at this point, it does need to be recognised and dealt with before it does become an issue.

Yesterday we had the Cambuslang story from the Celtic View, as an under fire cash strapped and negligent board attempted to convince the restless support that all was well. In fact, it wasn’t, and the board and it’s peculiar vision of reality was swept aside as the fans decided to take back their club, albeit with the aid of a man who actually had some money, as opposed to a very similar story that unfolded just a few years later in Glasgow, with the exception of the availablitiy of investment.

And a bank account to keep it in.

Today, what is being said here , shortly before last nights game ?

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Could Peter be telling Ronny, re the specualtion that Scott Allan will join Celtic for £600,000 and Dylan McGeouch ? “look, I know he’s shite, and he’s a hun, but it won’t half piss them off ” ?

Or is it something else ?

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Desmond dekker and the dekkers
8 years ago

Ronny: So Peter when do Big Zlatan and Hernandez arrive?

Pete: are they a band?

Gerry
8 years ago

Sorry Ralph but I have to disagree on Efe; he was caught on his heels while Magennis attacked the ball. Sure VVD could have been a couple yards deeper and might have had a chance to intercept, but Efe was right next to the scorer.
His disinterested flapping for offside five minutes earlier would have raised alarm bells had his repeated inability to win a header in the game not done so already for me. The guy has an African Cup medal and was part of a record breaking Celtic defence; that man has long since departed and this impostor should go also.
Fate dictated a slack defensive performance in the wake of Collins’ comments, all hacks will be just loving it. Surprised their keeper didn’t get man of the match, and I’d have had Forrest as our best player. While some shots were down his throat he made a few really good saves; the one from Griffiths before Mulgrew scored offside stands out.
Wasteful in front of goal, aye we’re months ahead of last year for sure?!?!

8 years ago
Reply to  Gerry

Ambrose won an African Cup of Nations medal playing RIGHT BACK. He is never a centre half…looks miles away half the time.

Ronnie gambled by resting players and buying a main striker who cant play in the league. The resting of players is fair enough but the Ciftci idea seems utter folly to me and all the talk of “great preparation this year!” when placed against that purchase and leaving Griffiths high and dry to score and run the lines alone is piss poor in my opinion.

pensionerbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Desimond

Desi

If we are to play overlapping full backs then we must, that is must, make sure they are covered by the winger on midfielder – Stein’s golden rule. We rarely do this, especially with Izzy, often to our cost.

H H

happyhoopybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Gerry

Simply put. how often do you watch Ambrose and Iziguirre make basic mistakes that make you squirm, and bewildered why they are still in a Celtic jersey. Is that the future we’ve to look forward to?

yestim
8 years ago

I need to disagree with the Izzy at fault comment Ralph, it was GMS that switched off and let the winger pass him on his blind side. This caused Izzy to leave his man and come out to stop the cross. 2nd goal bad bounce of the ball combined with the player throwing himself to the ground and an over zealous referee.

bawsman
8 years ago

We played some cracking stuff and the ref gave a brilliant James Forrest no protection whatsoever.

On one of his runs 3 of the hammer throwers lunged and kicked him. All 3 were cardable ‘challenges’.

8 years ago

This is a very poor celtic side as far as putting the ball in the net we can’t finnish teams off and dead right why oh why when we shot at goal 8times out of 10 it’s right at the keeper sorry our forwards are average we never seam to score more than 2 goals or certainly not often enough this must be addressed but it’s not as far as I can see

pensionerbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  drewster

drewster

Mathematical logic: possession = goals. Celtic = 90% possession. Celtic = 90% goals.

Well known saying: The exception proves the rule 🙂

H H

8 years ago

I agree with baws man the ref had a shocker every challenge from a Killie player was a foul they constantly pulled at jerseys held players back not ones did this very poor ref give a foul but we should be used to refs like that I would like to Celtic players complain more to refs and telling them how it is

8 years ago

Celtic need to buy a quality forward to compete in europ . Griffiths and ciftci are all standard we don’t have anyone near the quality of Larsson or viduka Sutton or Nicholas

If Virgil is sold then get a. Striker in surely 10 million will get someone decent Collins is spoton rregarding opposition not being up to it
It’s just a bit of a tactless and unproductive statement assistant coaches should nt be making these types of comments

I think we will get past malmo in a tight duo of games can’t see the team progressing past thegroup stages with the strikers we have

GaryBhoy
8 years ago

“Izaguirre is on form”….a phrase that has hasnt been required for 3 years

Whoriskey
8 years ago

Is it Peter telling Ronny he’s got 2 – 2 on his coupon?

pensionerbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Whoriskey

Whoriskey

Sometimes I would like to give him 2-2 on his coupon one with each hand 🙂

H H

Doc
8 years ago

We can moan about Izzy and Efe and momentary lapses but the facts speak for themselves, last night we failed against the last placed team, a team with whose main striker and ‘marquee’ signings were out, a team that have lost every game, bar one, since March. Again

Another piss poor result, last season Deila was given the benefit of the doubt as he was just in the door and we dismissed these ‘freak’ results maybe now we should just accept that, under Deila, this is normal.

Mark McKeown
8 years ago

How can you say we’re not finishing teams off? Last night we scored 2 goals, and but for Effe Ambrose and a dodgy penalty would have won the game easily.
let’s start with Effe. As anyone who has played football at a decent level will tell you, depending on which side of the park the play is on, the defender on the opposite side should tuck in to cover. Effe should have been in a more central position for Magennis’s chance which luckily he missed. About 5 minutes prior to that Effe was standing once again in no mans land which led to another missed opportunity by Kilmarnock. Earlier in the half he was once again caught out of position and VVD had to step across and stop the attack, as he has to do so many times when he plays alongside Effe. Shortly after the Magennis miss Kilmarnock got a free kick on the right which Magennis managed to head towards goal only for Gordon to save with his legs. Who was the man trying to mark him but couldn’t? Once again Efe Ambrose was the culprit. I can’t go through all of his errors in this match because there are just too many to list, but what I can say is this. Every single time he plays we make mistakes at the back, and usually he is at fault. VVD has a mare every time he plays beside him because he’s constantly trying to cover 2 positions. The guy is a proven liability and shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near a Celtic jersey ever. I wouldn’t even give him a job in the fucking superstore.
As for the penalty, I have looked at it at least 6 times now and it was never a penalty. I said to my son early in the 1st half that this ref was doing everything he could to get Killie a result, and so it was proved.
Therefore, omit Ambrose and a dodgy ref and we win 2-0. Please tell me how the strikers aren’t doing their jobs, because 2-0 in any game is a good result

8 years ago

Agree doc it seams to be common place we drop points to teams at the bottom of the table it’s happened to often now

pensionerbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  drewster

Doc/drewster

Well that is one sure thing the Malmo coach learned about us – note his interview.

H H

Jim
8 years ago

Peter to Ronny…”The Malmo manager is in the stand….i order you to play shite and settle for a draw…..give him nothing to worry about.”

Tam The Tim
8 years ago

For the amount of time Celtic have the ball in a match not being able to turn it into goals is worrying. We are playing teams off the park in the early stages but instead of building an insurmountable lead we let the other teams off the hook and suffer the consequences. Whatever dodgy decisions the mib’s make should be irrelevant as the game should be well won. Time for some shooting practice down at Lennoxtown or don’t they already do that?
HH

pensionerbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Tam The Tim

Tam The Tim

That is a massive worry and has been for at least two seasons now. It is my one major complaint about our coaching, that and not having more shots from distance. Yes, like Commons, we will miss loads but we have a better chance of getting the odd one than we do trying to do all our scoring from 3 yards only to constantly misfire, give the goalie practice and the chance to look big or lose possession.

H H

andybhoy
8 years ago

If that game had been played on a proper surface last night, not bone dry rubber, we would have won by a cricket score and anyone who thinks otherwise doesn’t have a clue. As for the penalty?… never in a million years.

Doc
8 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

If it was on a proper surface Commons and Forest, as well as one of their players, wouldn’t have hobbled off.

Devoy45
8 years ago

Thanks bhoys. I always get some perspective from the diary. I can sleep tonight without medication. My puir wife, who hates football,can’t understand why I shout at the tv, bless her.

I practically live and die with our team. I take its losses personally and it ruins my day, my week. I have a real life too but…
last night was a strange game with a strange vibe on a crap pitch and a ref with instructions. Seen it all before, over six decades. One thing in our history is that we’ve never lacked for good goal scorers: McGrory, Jinky,Lennox, Dalglish,Chocky, Larsson and so on into modern times. I know a 4-2-3-1 means we have four offensive players who should be scoring but any system needs just one guy who can convert chances. We should also be converting more corners and free kicks.We should be sweeping teams aside and we get glimpses of how good this team and system can be.Forrest ran through them at will and earned some free kicks that were never given.
I have no confidence about the Malmo game next week but by then the Diary will give me the fix I need.

Deila is telling Lawwell that we’ll get more from selling Van Dijk than from the Champion’s League—but no quoted price has been anywhere near the mark. “£20 million and not a penny less” says Ronny.

Honest Hoops
8 years ago

Well that’s the 1st stumble result out of the way, too many changes by the manager and It’s a team on a sheet of paper but I witnessed so many selfish acts in the 18 yard box which would have made the game out of sight for killjoys, Forrest is one of the biggest culprits, Griffs stopped running into the spaces as he knew Forrest would try to be the hero, as for the penalty….never

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Honest Hoops

Bollocks, Forrest is one of the most unselfish players in the team and if you want to talk about unselfish running, Forrest does that constantly. I take it your’e one of the anti Forrest brigade?

Half_Fool
8 years ago

As evidenced, our squad is killer-quality thin.
Hopefully we shall see rapid improvement when more of the 1st XI come back, but I am disappointed in the rest of the squad.
Additionally, how many lessons does Ronny need on Efe at CH, and that Izzy isnae fit and needs someone to rotate with?

The SFA made a statement of intent for this season last night, as per the old usual standards. We’ll get hoofed, offsides against us and they’ll get debatable penalties.

Bgbhoy
8 years ago

Honest hoops….. Wow. Forrest Celtic best player last night by s mile. IF Forrest was more selfish we would o WON the game last night hands down. He always try’s to find a player rather than shoot on sight. Funny kris commons doesn’t get moaned at for being selfish even though he will put at least 3 into the stand during a game rather than play the pass. Did he not shoot straight at the keeper rather than slide griff in??? Tooany Celtic fans laying into the team when a dodgy pitch an ref where at play last night

pensionerbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Bgbhoy

Bgbhoy

Is it not passing the ball too many times or should that be the “buck”? Just saying, but then I have a reputation for not quite liking trees.

H H

Funkyy
8 years ago

Jeezo..we’re really becoming a bunch of greetin’ faced doom and gloom bhoys. The game should have finished 2-1…the player waited for Izzi to get close then he did a “dead man falls”, dragging BOTH sets of toes along the “turf”. He should have been booked for simulation (f*cking cheating) but the ref bought the dive.
I absolutely hate that mantra “there was contact”…it’s not “contact” that decides if it’s a penalty, it’s the type of contact i.e. is it contact that is intended to stop/bring down the player? When I slap my pal on the back and say “Happy birthday” there’s contact, but he doesn’t fall to the ground.
It’s getting to the stage that players just wait until the defender approaches and they either lean into him so there’s the famous “contact”, or they just leave their leg behind making the “contact” so that the fake fall fools the ref. I thought refs were supposed to have been instructed to be on the look out for simulation….apparently not in Scotland.
So we drew 2-2 fielding a changed team, a team that will not face Malmo next Wednesday, and now folk are playing the blame game, acting like spoiled weans. If the game HAD finished 2-1 I’m sure the comments would have gone along the lines of “Hey, we won even though we played not so well, with players rested..etc etc.”.
As for the criticism of Ronny..get a grip for God’s sake, where’s your loyalty and your patience?

pensionerbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Funkyy

Funky

At the risk of being accused of us having a love in, I think you are spot on. The other point to mention is the potential red cards for Kilmarnock had a certain “official” done his duty. The lack of warnings never mind yellow cards was quite incomprehensible.

H H

pensionerbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  pensionerbhoy

Sorry a “y” missing. Must have gone to sleep. There goes my writing career 🙂

H H

Half_Fool
8 years ago
Reply to  Funkyy

Totally agree on the penalty incident.
Complete dive. Went across Izzy, then down he goes; ref on the spot ever-so-ready to rumble.

BUT I will say, the game should have been 3-1 or 4-1; we lack edge.

pensionerbhoy
8 years ago

Ralph

Well, it did not take us long to discover the warts in Ronny’s creation. Given he is not God – or to satisfy some, not Stein – I think we may have exaggerated his propensity for perfection even though, in our desperation that is what we always expect. So, last night our dream of an all conquering team was disrupted. But to read some comments, you would think it was a nightmare. No, the only nightmare last night was a refereeing one and the warts, which with any ounce of realism would have been plain to see from day one, have not turned overnight into a terminal disease. Last night was not a one of but it will also not be our regular performance or result throughout this season. Our flaws may be numerous and all have been covered at length in one way or another either in the Diary or the comments and, no doubt will be blown out of all proportion and recognition by a frothing media. As someone pointed out, it proves the domestic opposition is under par a la John Collins, when we regularly go to sleep playing against it. Malmo will, if nothing else, see us kept on our toes from start to finish. Quarabang proved we can be alert for the full game and the incentive to prove ourselves in Europe provides the adrenaline needed to keep us awake. We do not have the same rush in domestic games so glitches will happen as they do to every team in similar situations. Feet are taken off the pedal by the best to their cost. Did anyone see how near Barcelona came to being defeated in the Super Cup the other night against Seville? They were 4-1 up and thought they were home and dry only to find themselves pegged back to 4-4 and having to play unnecessary extra time which could have gone either way. So, give Ronny a break. The team slipped up last night. They should not have but they did. Tomorrow is another day and I bet Celtic have better odds of being full of beans come Saturday than I have 🙂

Peter “I don’t give a fuck, Ronny, if it is hellish to play on, it’s a lot cheaper than grass.”

H H

Corktim
8 years ago

Having missed a barrel full of chances it was inevitable they would get a chance late on to draw courtesy of the cheating refs,worried about the missed chances definitely need a clinical finisher .

Funkyy
8 years ago

Pensionerbhoy…”Funky” is ma dug, and I’m Funkyy, named after ma dug!!! lol and HH

Half_Fool
8 years ago

Hopefully this Hibs deal, is a good deal for all concerned.

1) Gets it right up Zombie FC
2) We get a young but experienced 1st team player
3) Henderson gets plenty more 1st team time
4) Strengthens a team that wasn’t formed in 2012
5) Gets it right up Zombie FC

Rab Wallace
8 years ago

Ronnie to Peter ” fuck off I’m busy”

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