Menu Close

Celtic Diary Tuesday November 20: Can We Have Our Game Back ?

Ahead of tomorrows AGM, it appears that some may be looking for Celtic to take the lead.

This letter, from Fans Without Scarves, dropped on the table of Michael Nicholson, the Celtic company secretary.

Dear Mr Nicholson,

I represent the group for SFA reform known as Fans Without Scarves. As a body we own no shares in Celtic though one of our 4 founding members fully supportive of these contents does. We retain a deep interest in the progress of the matter referred to in the title due to its potential implications for improving Scottish football governance for the better. To this end it is one of many troublesome issues relating to the stewardship of the game listed on our petition of no confidence at https://www.change.org/p/scottish-football-association-fundamental-change-at-the-sfa and which we write about on our website https://fanswithoutscarves.org/.

We have contacted the SFA several times for an update on their notice of complaint and possible reference to CAS in Strasbourg but received no response. It will be no surprise we have little confidence in their effective management of the game, but their processes have so far been trusted by clubs including Celtic to properly investigate and action an investigation into the circumstances of the 2011/12 licence applications.

The SFA took inordinately long to do this even after statements under oath in the Craig Whyte trial. When a case was finally brought it was restricted to the monitoring period – an issue we consider materially incorrect based upon evidence we understand you have been provided with regarding actions between member clubs and their finance providers and minutes relating to decisions of member clubs during the time of initial UEFA license applications.

It would appear that through the terms of the Five Way Agreement the SFA has no longer jurisdiction to commence such actions on a now defunct member club, though why it signed up to such an agreement that restricts its ability to govern properly has never been made clear. This should be properly explained to all stakeholders including fans.

In any case this issue has now stalled and the SFA appear to be particularly afraid of the consequences of referring this to CAS, presumably as it’s own role in an area of extreme concern would have proper scrutiny applied.

As the club principally harmed by decisions which appear to be fundamentally flawed, the rest of the fans of Scottish football are looking to Celtic to stand up for the integrity and governance standards that we should be able to expect from those charged with providing them. To that end we would like to know:

 

1. Have Celtic themselves received satisfactory response from the SFA that would enable them to conclude the SFA handling of this since passing the issue to their processes in 2017 can provide the sort of confidence in the running of the game we fans are entitled to?

2. Are Celtic in a position to provide such information to such fans if it does exist since the SFA have failed entirely to do so despite one of their ‘strategic pillars’ being Trusted And Respected To Lead?

3. If such explanation has not been satisfactorily provided, can Celtic provide a proper explanation for continuing to trust in the SFA judicial process when it continues to drag on without communication or delivery? Or failing that a plan for how they expect to move this issue forward which is too important to continue to let fester?

4. Given in particular that agreements that have not been made public appear to have been signed with at least one member club which restricts historical actions that can be taken to improve accountability and governance of the game, but more generally also the compromised position of the regulatory bodies; are Celtic able to satisfactorily say to fans when selling to them that they are contributing to a fair game run on sporting principles with a completely empowered and impartial regulator?

5. Have Celtic sought the views of other clubs and supporters organisations on the above issue? We have so far over 4,000 signatories (many fans of Aberdeen, Kilmarnock, Hibs, Hearts etc) exasperated to the point that they have signed a vote of no confidence in the SFA, many using phrases such as corrupt, not fit for purpose, old boys club and biased in their justifications for doing so.

6. Given such concerns from the fans do the Boards of such clubs share and reflect these concerns? We are strong advocates for fan representation as our experience is often that clubs do not adequately represent the views and concerns of that biggest stakeholder and provider of income to the game. This is a chance for the club boards to show that they do listen.

7. Certain letters relating to the disputed relevant tax demands indicated that the avoidance scheme and actions to hide it were tantamount to fraud. There is evidence from testimony in the highest court in the land that those involved concealed and made false representations in relation to the disguised remuneration and the tax liability. The objects were to obtain sporting and financial benefits at the expense of competitors who did not break the law, rules of the game and set out to deceive. Given the possibility of fraud and that being a criminal matter, have Celtic contacted the police seeking investigation into this?

8. Given FFP within domestic football is considered part and parcel of good sporting governance, would Celtic lobby the SFA/SPFL for the introduction of ongoing regulatory financial reporting and restrictions within the domestic league to ensure responsible club management going forward?

9. Would Celtic support the sharing of domestic shared revenues being at least partially contingent on FFP compliance?

10. Would Celtic support and encourage the Scottish government to make public funding for football contingent upon set codes of sporting governance (similar to those already in place in England and Wales)?

Thank you for taking the time to read and consider the above. We would be very grateful for a response to these issues and would hope to be able to count on teams such as Celtic to drive forward much needed reform to the antiquated and dysfunctional model currently run. For 20 years the major clubs have tried to reform unsuccessfully from within by musical chairs on committees and holding key positions but the truth is that the model is broke. If Celtic is really a club for all, then let it be the one that stands up for all the fans in the Scottish game and brings the game back to those that really matter. Starting with these issues right now.

 
Kind regards,
 
[redacted]
Fans Without Scarves 
This is hugely significant.
It means that the Scottish football supporters are watching what happens tomorrow.
It also means that they well not need as much encouragement to join in any campaign to oust the SFa as we perhaps previously thought.
The fans of other clubs see Celtic and “rangers ” as two cheeks of the same bottom, whether we want to be associated with them or not.
However, if pressed, apart from a minority entrenched in the seveteenth century, most of them can recognise a scam when they see it, and they too are looking for some sort of closure, some kind of justice, over the events surrounding the liquidation of Rangers.
We should encourage that support.
In the meantime, here’s a few things to ponder ahead of the meeting, and perhaps even raise while you’re there..
  1. Last September ,before the 2017 AGM., Celtic entrusted the SFA to mount a thorough investigation into the circumstances of the UEFA Licence granted to Rangers FC in 2011.

 

  1. Over a year later, after 7 months to investigate what transpired, the Compliance Officer referred the case to in May 2018 to the Judicial Panel Disciplinary Tribunal . (JPDT)

 

  1. That JPDT process appears to have been thrown into disarray in July 2018 as a result of a  claim from The Rangers Football Club/Rangers International Football Club that CAS should be the proper authority to investigate..

 

  1. This happened after the SFA had been notified in late June 2018 of concerns raised by the Res12 lawyer after evidence emerged late May that cast serious doubts on the legitimacy of the granting in April 2011 of the UEFA Licence. These concerns with the new evidence were also copied to Celtic.

 

  1. Have Celtic questioned the SFA as a result of these developments (the new info/referral to CAS)  and have the answers the SFA provided given Celtic the confidence that the SFA are capable of the meeting the responsibility which they entrusted to the SFA over a year ago?

 

  1. If yes, can Celtic explain on what grounds they are content to leave the matter with the SFA Judicial process?

 

  1. If no, what do Celtic intend to do to meet shareholder concerns?

 

  1. Based on what they now know are Celtic confident that when they sell tickets to supporters, they can assure them that they are paying to watch a game where the rules will be applied without fear or favour under the Judicial Panel Protocol that gives the SFA total control over what is to be investigated?

 

  1. Are Celtic putting the above question along with the grounds for asking it to their fellow SPFL club Directors?

 

  1. Do they share Celtic’s concerns about the risks to the integrity of Scottish football where the rules can be circumvented by the SFA alone to provide a desired rather than just outcome?

 

 

By the way, if you want to raise any or all of these points , and cannot make the meeting, you can do it electronically.

Chariman Iain Bankier also had something to read, from John Clark of the Scottish Football Monitor

Mr I Bankier,
Chairman,
Celtic Football Club plc
Celtic Park, Glasgow G40 3RE

08/11/2018

Dear Mr Bankier,

“Resolution 12”

You will, of course, recall as clearly as I that, at the Celtic plc AGM in 2013, the Resolution bearing number 12 on the agenda was not formally debated and voted upon, but was adjourned indefinitely.

I understand that over the intervening years(!) a number of conversations and discussions have taken place between the Board and the immediate proposers of Resolution 12 (among whom, I should perhaps say, I was not numbered in 2013 and am not now numbered)As an eventual outcome of those discussions and conversations,as again you will recall,Celtic plc in September 2017, shortly before that year’s AGM, entrusted to the Scottish Football Association [SFA]the task of undertaking a thorough investigation into the circumstances under which the Union of European Football Associations[UEFA] granted a UEFA-competitions licence to the then Rangers Football Club in 2011.

Unfathomably, it was not until May of this year that the Compliance Officer of the SFA referred the matter to the Judicial Panel Disciplinary Tribunal [JPDT]

In that same month of May 2018, evidence emerged that appeared to cast serious doubts on the legitimacy of the award of the UEFA licence to Rangers Football Club in 2011. Following careful consideration of that evidence, the legal representative of what is known as the ‘Res.12 Group’ informed both the SFA and Celtic plc of these doubts in late June 2018, passing to those bodies copies of the evidence which gave rise to the doubts.

In July 2018, The Rangers Football Club Ltd challenged the reference to the JPDT,arguing that the appropriate authority to which any such reference ought to have been made is the Court of Arbitration for Sport[CAS]

This challenge has apparently and inexplicably frozen all action by the JPDT.

To my eye, as a small shareholder , it appears that the Board of Celtic plc have been and continue to be at the very least dilatory and lukewarm if not yet totally remiss in looking after the interests of their shareholders.

It is now November: the reference by Celtic plc to the SFA was made over one year ago. Even by reference to the civil Courts let alone to the internal disciplinary body of a not very large Sports governance body such as the SFA, that is an unconscionably long time for a reference not to have been acted upon.I now feel obliged to ask the following questions:

Have the Celtic Board pressed the SFA to say what action they have taken vis-vis the challengemade to the legal powers of the JPDT to investigate the circumstances surrounding the award of the licence ?

If they have not done so, would they care to give their reasons why not?

If the response from the SFA was that the matter of the jurisdiction of the JPDT has been referred elsewhere ( to UEFA or to the CAS) , are the Celtic Board content with that response and prepared to take such subsequent monitoring action as may be necessary?

If the SFA have not referred the question of jurisdiction elsewhere, have the Celtic Board ascertained at what stage the JPDT’s investigation is at, or even whether it has yet begun?

If the Board have been told that the JPDT has stalled, perhaps indefinitely, what does the Celtic Board propose doing to ensure that the investigation that they were assured would be undertaken will indeed be undertaken by the JPDT as a matter of priority, with a timetable for completion?

Does the Celtic Board actually trust the SFA/JPDT to investigate thoroughly, honestly and deliver true judgment? Is it not time that a vote was taken to pass ‘Res 12’, based on what is now known by Celtic plc, and the matter formally referred by Celtic plc to UEFA to investigate as thoroughly as was done in the recently reported cases of the Albanian, Serbian and Kazakhstan national associations?

The Celtic Board must keep in mind their obligations to shareholders. This would be especially so where there may be grounds for suspecting chicanery on the part of others, in consequence of which Celtic plc might have been denied an actual, defined sum of money and the opportunity potentially to compete for much more in ‘prize’ money. In such circumstances it would not be at all for the Board on its own authority simply to ignore the possibility of chicanery and dismiss the matter.

There are sufficient grounds for me to believe that the award of a UEFA licence to the then Rangers Football Club in 2011 may have been made in the knowledge that that club was absolutely not entitled to that award.

In my opinion, the granting of a UEFA licence to the then Rangers FC in 2011 is not merely a ‘sporting’ matter, but one which might conceivably, in the absence of acceptable responses from the SFA/JPDT, require reference to the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service.

The failure to date of Celtic plc to insist that the SFA take urgent action to fulfil the commitment they made that a thorough, independent investigation would be undertaken urges me to make such reference on my own initiative as a citizen who suspects that a crime may have been committed.

However, before taking such a step, I think I will await your replies to the questions above if you would be good enough to provide such.

Yours sincerely,

name and address 

 

He’s still waiting for a reply, as far as I know…

 

I can’t think for the life of me why Etims has been dropped from the official club website links….

 

Something else may come up at the meeting tomorrow, and whilst it is being discussed, you could maybe ask who came up with the bright idea of letting Sky TV cover Scottish football again.

They have proved to be fairly consistent in treating it as a second rate product with piss poor presentation and scheduling, and someone , somewhere, has decided to let them do it for the next five years.

Sky used this image to announce the deal…

 

A smiling Steven Gerrard in front of a concerned Brendan Rodgers.

The sound of the collective groan from the rest of Scottish football’s supporters has registered on the Richter Scale.

The SPFL tweeted…

📺 SPFL announce TV deals. See full details here👇

Except, of course, they aren’t the full details…

THE SPFL HAS AGREED A SERIES OF GROUND-BREAKING BROADCAST DEALS WHICH WILL SEE MAJOR INCREASES IN REVENUES FOR THE SCOTTISH PROFESSIONAL GAME.

The UK & Ireland broadcast rights for the Ladbrokes Premiership, Betfred Cup and IRN-BRU Cup from 2020-21 were auctioned and the winning bids were revealed to clubs by Chief Executive Neil Doncaster at a meeting at Hampden Park this afternoon. The Premiership clubs then gave their approval to each of the winning bids.

Whilst the commercial details of the agreements have not been revealed, under the new deals:

• Sky Sports will exclusively broadcast up to 48 Ladbrokes Premiership live matches per season, as well as up to six Premiership / Championship play-off matches, in each case for five seasons from 2020/21

• Premier Sports will exclusively broadcast between 12 and 16 Betfred Cup live matches and highlights per season

• Existing BBC Scotland television highlights and live radio packages have been renewed for five seasons from 2020, as well as up to 20 live Ladbrokes Championship matches per season for 2018/19 and 2019/20

• MG ALBA has agreed BBC ALBA will also broadcast one deferred Ladbrokes Premiership match each Saturday evening, live matches from the IRN-BRU Cup and the Ladbrokes Championship / League 1 and Ladbrokes League 1 / League 2 play-of finals for three seasons from 2020/21

SPFL chief executive Neil Doncaster, speaking immediately after the meeting with Premiership clubs at Hampden Park, said: “Every single deal is a major increase on our current contracts. Taken together, these deals represent the largest ever injection of broadcast investment since the SPL was founded over 20 years ago.

Whilst we are not in a position to reveal exact figures, it’s indicative of the sums involved that the clubs quickly voted to accept the deals put before them.

“Interest in the Scottish game is extremely high both at home and overseas and this has been reflected in the size of the commercial deals we have been able to strike in what is definitely a very challenging market.

“It has been a remarkably complex and time-consuming process, but we have definitely got the right result and our media advisor Phil Lines has played an important role in achieving this successful outcome.

“We’re particularly pleased that we have been able to agree a deal for the Ladbrokes Premiership matches on an exclusive basis with a single live broadcast partner. Sky Sports has been at the heart of the football broadcasting revolution for many, many years and its determination to secure our rights and its commitment to ensuring excellence in its programming are extremely encouraging.

“We are also delighted to announce a deal with Premier Sports to broadcast the Betfred Cup and the continuation of our partnerships with BBC Scotland and MG ALBA.

“The significant, additional money which will come into Scottish football will be extremely welcome. The game can only benefit from the strong investment and widespread exposure these deals have secured.”

Barney Francis, Sky Sports’ Managing Director, said: “This is a hugely exciting time for Scottish football – something that has been reflected in the number of fans tuning in to watch on Sky Sports. With more games, in-game clips and highlights of every single Ladbrokes Premiership clash, fans won’t miss a minute. Add in live coverage of Scotland’s Nations League campaign, and every European Championship and World Cup qualifier and we’ve really got the Scottish game covered.”

Michael O’Rourke, Premier Sports’ Chairman, said: “I am genuinely delighted to secure the rights to the Betfred Cup for five seasons from 2020. This deal compliments our recently announced deal with the Scottish FA for their cup competition and completes a unique double for Premier Sports. We are looking forward to working with the SPFL in the years ahead.”

Steve Carson, Head of Multiplatform Commissioning, BBC Scotland, said: “We are delighted to have agreed this new deal with the SPFL. We know there is a huge appetite for Scottish football amongst the audience and these deals will allow us to bring them more action than ever before from the top tiers of the game. It’s great news for fans of the Scottish game and we’re looking forward to delivering a multiplatform package of high-quality coverage across TV, radio and online.”

Iseabail Mactaggart, Director of Strategy and Partnership at MG ALBA, commented: “We’re delighted to secure this agreement with the SPFL. It means Gaelic-language sports programming remains open for all across Scotland.”
 

The bit in bold….the important bit, which is not considered important enough to be included in a press release that claims to offer “full details “.

Though we are led to believe the going rate is around thirty pieces of silver.

Also not mentioned are which games will be covered, as its a sure bet they will cover only the away fixtures of Celtic and “rangers “.

As we have seen recently, should the most attractive match be a Celtic or “rangers ” home game, and both clubs are only allowed four home games each under the present deal, then it won’t be on.

Should that match not feature any of the two Glasgow clubs, it won’t be on.

For those of you who still subscribe, a fair chunk of your money is distributed amongst English clubs who then head north to buy our better players, often before they have served their apprenticeship.

Sky TV is where they get their money, and they get it from subscribers in Scotland.

A couple of years ago, the diary urged people to ditch them in favour of going to games, or even finding another way to watch.

Celtic TV may not be great, but at least the money goes to the club.

One other point, Sky want four games featuring Celtic and whichever entity operates out of Ibrox. did they have a hand in the Five Way agreement that perpetuated the myth of the same club ?

 

BT Sport have probably done the right thing in backing out. Scottish football is not a product that sponsors want to be associated with. There’s a storm coming whether its led by Celtic or by supporters.

And anyway, they have their own issues, as shareholder pressure and a change of leadership has them moving away from the expensive live sports market.

Hey, there’s a thought…shareholder pressure…

 

Now, for something to put a smile on your face.

It did mine.

Bobby Lennox, who needs no introduction has a statue in his honour in his home town of Saltcoats… it was unveiled at the weekend…

And there was much rejoicing.

 

No one deserves it more.

 

 

we go back to Friday for the last caption competition, as the weekend was a bit of a recovery period for me.

I even forgot to get Mrs Ralph a birthday card, something that even the Postcode Lottery managed to do.

Replying to 

Oh dear, hope you get in the good books Richard! Maybe some flowers will help? 💐

 

Now they’re wanting to send her flowers…that will help.

 

On Friday we had this…

Fra Stone November 16, 2018 at 10:27 am · Edit · Reply →

Caption: you know i love you like a son, now get out there or you’re fking grounded! 

Today…

0 0 votes
Article Rating
143 Comments
Oldest
Newest Most Voted
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
Mike Annis
5 years ago

Caption: The Celtic Board respond to the Resolution 12 Proposers.

Sadly I feel nothing will happen. Jock’s quote is in the dust. The Boards of all clubs and the football authorities don’t give a flying rhubarb for the supporters.

Charlie Pride
5 years ago

Seems CQN have reversed away from Res 12 at an alarming rate.

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Pride

Charlie Pride,
That’s because Brennan is Lawwell’s lapdog.

D'Fhinnein Mick
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

MONTI

If I ever meet you,I’ll tell you exactly when that came about. I’ve got an amazing memory for trivia,even if I can’t remember what happened last week. And I sure remember a certain quote.

Monti
5 years ago

Question to the board at the AGM: Could any single one of you useless cunts, explain to the Celtic support, here at home & across the world, this…
Q. We have a manager who has filled the stadium, when it was, prior to his arrival, having stands shut & banners placed over seats.
We have a manager who has delivered back to back trebles, unprecedented domestic success.
We have a manager who has steered & navigated the club into two consecutive champions league group stages & who quite possibly, given appropriate backing would have been in the champions league again this season.
We have a manager who has open top buses filled with ALL of the domestic silverware being driven to Celtic park, scenes that for a lot of supporters had never witnessed.
So for you the board members, club custodians & heated driveway holders, i put this question to you all…

With all that i have listed above, with what i have reminded you what this manager has given us all…
Who among you decided that to not back the manager in the summer was the correct way to proceed, please share?

D'Fhinnein Mick
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

MONTI

You really need to contact me,mate. Got an e-mail,not telling you who from,early August. It was made perfectly clear that Lawwell wasn’t in the business of backing a manager who had only made £7m profit in his first year.

I kid you not,btw.

And where was he during the summer,this man whose job is to finalise agreements to sign players identified by the manager,and within the budget previously agreed by said manager?

AWOL. In other words,he refused to do his job. And that,MONTI,is a firing offence in any company. As is his cover-up of his part in keeping the huns alive.

You know,when I’m having a go at PL,people say it’s just because I don’t like him.

Well,fuck me,I wonder why that is.

Monti
5 years ago

D’Fhinnein Mick,
Lawwell should have walked away when he said we couldn’t pay employees the living wage.
He’s too big for his fucking boots now!

5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Monti , as far as I can remember B R was filled with joy , with the players the board had got for him just a few months earlier in January . He said all his wildest dreams had come through .
You can hardly blame the board that these players were not worth the paper their contracts were written on . Surely if it was your company you wouldn’t want the buyer to bring in many more until he got rid of the stockpile of rubbish he has accumulated.
There is no doubt that B R is an outstanding manager of footballers & we are lucky to have a man of his ability . But can he judge a player & make the right choice about signing the right player . Neither he or his side-kick Comgleton have proved that yet , and I am sure the Board will remain reluctant about releasing major funds until they are confident the money will be spent wisely

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  D J Smyth

DJ Smith,
All managers sign a few diddies, i think Brendan get’s a wee bit of rope with those i think.
Listen, Brendan himself said that we didn’t need much, maybe three to four players of real quality, on the back of two consecutive treble winning seasons, he should have got his targets without question.
The board didn’t do it & we failed to qualify for the CL.
Remember also, it’s true what you say about getting players off the wage bill, the problem is you can’t do that all at once.

I feel Celtic need three quality signings in January, central defender, right back & a striker!

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

CS,
We need another striker because we can’t depend on Griffiths!

5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Monti any normal sensible supporter would know that no one person is completely to blame for the transfers in , nor should anyone person get all the praise . It’s a team effort and I am sure within their limitations everyone tries to do their best .
Some people think that the person who thinks & acts in the way they think is completely right & anyone who sees situation from different angle are completely wrong .
I am sure Celtic have examined very closely why all the money spent last January seemed to be spent on players not Celtic class. The people involved have let club down & I hope changes have been made

Monti
5 years ago

Caption: Mike gives Una a companion a lift to the local car boot sale….

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

I would never treat a lady like that unless I was appearing in 50 shades of green. Oh the wearing of the green, the wearing of the green, they are hanging men and women for…. The wearing of the green

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Mike,
You can let them oot tae make the tea….then back in they go!

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Kin yeh? never thought aboot that, yeh live and learn. 😉
Weered’s got the flu his nose looks like a baboons arse…

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

The fucking flu?
What a poof…..can you say poof?

D'Fhinnein Mick
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

MIKE

My kid sis-ATHINGOFBEAUTY on SC-always called Hately “Baboon-arse-heid!”

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Poof.

5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

gay candle…went out with a poof…..can I say that

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Oh dear, sorry to hear that Weered, have you tried boiled eggs? they say that they are like an add blocker. 😉

Mike
5 years ago

Seeing big Jock on the header was absolutely brilliant, he will be turning in his grave at WTF is Scottish Football and the absolute disaster that supposedly governs it. The more supporters who ask questions about the governess of the game the better chance we have of ousting and cleansing those that bring it into disrepute. While Doncaster at the SPFL, McRae and waiting in the wings Petrie are embedded in the game nothing will change, the mess will continue. “Fans without scarves” good on you, but my scarf I will always wear with pride although I might make a black ribbon addition to it until that much needed cleansing is finished. The five way agreement final addition must be published, those in charge must answer all the supporters questions, Res.12 is just the beginning, remedy that and the cleansing will continue… it has to or else what is the point…

henkesdreadlocks
5 years ago

Caption……..

Mike goes cruising.

Mike
5 years ago

WTF.. 😉

Monti
5 years ago

Henke,
Is Mike the one in the cage, the one on the right with the big nose?
Sniff….

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Your thinking about Nicholas Cage, I look more like George Cluny.

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Weered you are awful, but I like you… But two can play that game and I have the pictures to prove it.

Men in Kilts beware of snarling hungry dogs, especially if you are going… commando.

5 years ago

Told you not to say the Huns are deid

Puggy67
5 years ago

Caption: Preparations begin for Wayne Rooney’s charity match after-party

Hope all the usual suspects that criticised Gascoigne’s omission from the hall of fame have bought a paper today.

5 years ago

caption
port glasgow citizens welcome the new uber upgrade

5 years ago

caption
Aberdeen wags set of early ahead of league cup final

5 years ago

off

5 years ago

watching martin boyle score his second for australia, he isn’t bad. It is only Lebanon they are playing but he is quite good

Monti
5 years ago

Caption: Norma-” Way aye Marjorie, i was going to travel first class but the driver is Paul Gascoigne…
Gazza drop us off at the train station pet & i’ll let you give me a peck on the cheek…cough “

D'Fhinnein Mick
5 years ago

CAPTION

The Childcatcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang,having fallen on hard times.

D'Fhinnein Mick
5 years ago

RALPH

That pre-AGM board discussion in full.

“What about that Res 12 thing,are we gonna keep stringing them along or finally tell them to GTF? I canny wait to see thur faces when they realise we’ve shafted them”

“Well,I was hoping to keep that scam going till I’d done a runner with my ginormous bonus in a couple of years”

“Oh,I canny wait to see thur faces then anaw!”

Mike
5 years ago

Christina Young posted a really great post on yesterday’s diary at 1.27 a.m. (really Christina) its such a pity that it cannot be shown on todays diary, it fully deserves to be shown…

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Mike,
Christina has such a classy, sophisticated & refined oral expression, single handedly twisting the finer point.

🙂

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

I wid like to meet her oan a midnight train to Georgia. 😉

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

She widny be one for long if she wis, but that’s another story, the thing is she has a strange sense of humour when she LOL at Del-Monti’s caption comment, it could be a lesbian trait mind you… who kens. 😉

5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Thank you for your kind words about my post- oh and Mike I’m a night hawk I frequently post in the wee small hours – and , for the record, I’m not a lesbian; Monti expected a more robust defence from you on this – you know better

Wee red (well named!) No pics!!

D'Fhinnein Mick
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

MIKE

C&P richly deserved. And for every sellout who has refused to act on this whole fiddling exercise,hang together,because if REAL Celtic fans get their hands on you,you will surely hang separately.

*
Christina Young November 20, 2018 at 1:27 am · Reply →
First of all I should like to express total respect to yourself and all the Res 12 people who have given so much of your time and expertise to move this issue on to a satisfactory conclusion.
While I understand when you say there is no hard evidence that the SFA knew about the invalidity of the licence in 2011 can I respectfully suggest that issue is for others to decide? By others I mean by judicial process, I hasten to add. Whilst we all want to have it confirmed who knew what and when we must all be realistic and accept that no one is going to own up to any of this. It is only by due process of law that this is ever going to be established in such a way as to make punishment possible. This is why I, agree with Ralph’s points above when he appears to suggest that energies are best expended on getting this into a court, preferably the Court of Arbitration in Sport (CAS). The last I heard was that this was what ‘rangers’ were touting which makes me think that this is their last hand in this poker game and they’re hoping to bluff their way to victory. We all know King is a gambler when it comes to court matters, he is an absolute judicial junkie -fortunately he loses most of the time! However, I believe he fancies his chances here against the SFA because he knows they have just as much to lose as he does. He is, therefore, quietly confident that this case will never reach CAS and that is where the battle, for me, should be fought. To get this whole stinking pile of corruption into a neutral court ie not a Scottish Court, where the facts can speak for themselves. I truly believe that this case would be won there. That is why it has stalled at JPDT stage, neither party SFA or RIFC 2012 want this case to be heard at CAS. The last I heard was that they were putting together the ‘Terms of Reference’ to present the case to CAS- bullshit they have kicked it into the long grass and hope it stays there! That is why I think points 3,4 & 5 on Ralph’s list are the most pertinent for this AGM no sense going over old ground and no sense looking for confessions or proof of cupability -just get it moving again get it into a totally neutral court and let the games begin!!
I also get what others are saying about other matters, evidence of corruption in our game etc and this is important too but this is a battle to be tackled after we prove this case I think. It is my humble opinion that if we could win this main case at CAS then UEFA may start to look at matters over Ibrox way with a somewhat more jaundiced eye FFP regulations would be one of my bets for a start! King is running that place like a Mafia crime family and a Sect 70 UEFA audit would not be in his interests. City of London police would definitely be interested in the outcome of that if it was brought to their attention. To use the old idiom ‘there is more than one way to skin a cat’ justice can be done – if we can just get this bloody case to CAS and shine daylight on the corruption in the Scottish game!
Well these are my musings on the subject anyhow

Mike
5 years ago

Thanks Mick, you also are ” A Thing of Beauty”.

I’m sitting here thinking about how our support deserve to be treated so much better, all they ever wanted was to watch and enjoy a fair game, to see Celtic win, lose or draw. Its so frustrating thinking that we all know that we are getting fucked over and cannot do much to influence the governess of Scottish fitbae. It makes my blood boil thinking about things, even if it was just to hear an explanation of why that desperate governess is doing what its doing. An explanation of why there is a secret agreement, why they are doing nothing to cleanse the game, its disgraceful….

Mike
5 years ago

Thank you Mick, I did reply but the SFA turned its deaf ear to it..
It is a wonderful, thoughtful, intelligent post….

5 years ago

I missed this and I agree that bringing CAS into the ring is a typical DK strategy.

However since the matter involves breach of UEFA FFP then nothing can be done without UEFA involvement.

That will be the problem with the TORs. How to ask CAS to arbitrate on what?

The SFA JPDT have not reached a conclusion on the charges they made.

Rangers therefore have not disputed any JPDT decision. So what is there to arbitrate on?

The proper process given latest UEFA statements on club licensing is for Celtic to take the matter to UEFA Club Financial Control Body who then decide if a breach of UEFA FFP occured, how it occurred and take whatever remedial action is necessary.

If neither the SFA nor TRFC like the CFCB decision then they can take matters to CAS.

Traverso in his response to Celtic shareholders stated that if a member club (ie Celtic) wanted the matter pursued they should take it up with UEFA direct. Which is all that Res12 asked.

Nothing more nothing less.

Now if TRFC are challenging the right of the JPDT to adjudicate because of something in the 5 Way Agreement then the whole Judicial Panel Protocol agreed by all clubs including RFC in 2011 falls on its arse if TRFC are exempt from the Judicial Protocol.

As regards what SFA knew: if I said no hard evidence exists of SFA complicity in March/April 2011 then I should have said no hard evidence is known to exist and until any turns up it is wrong to say SFA were complicit as a fact.

I read a blog by James Forrest on Celtic Noise that suggests SFA’s motivation and it all points to complicity so any investigation should prove that or otherwise and what is needed is a clear the air process, where where the truth can be followed by the reconciliation that allows moving on.

Perhaps that is the direction of travel the universe is nudging us to.

5 years ago
Reply to  Auldheid

“This” being Christina Young November 20, 2018 at 1:27 am thoughtful post.

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Auldheid

” Thoughtful post “? Couldn’t have possibly been a woman….

5 years ago

I would be worried if the SFA & Rangers2012 were compiling the terms of reference for bringing the case to CAS .
With these con men been involved the terms of reference will be so limited that a not guilty verdict is inevitable

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  D J Smyth

I think Christena knows that, but she rightly wants the Huns to be tried in a neutral court, we will not get anything in this bigot hole, a neutral venue with neutral judgements, King will be stiffed and then the City of London polis come in and the result will be bingo, finito, they get there just desserts, them and their partners in crime…

5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Thank you Mike, yes DJS I do know that which is why the terms of reference were shown in inverted commas! It was meant to show that this is yet another bullshit delaying tactic. If it was moving at the rate of a normal judicial enquiry then we should have reached the stage of discussing whether or not FFP regulations were breached, by now- at the very least! I desperately want the Huns to be tried in a neutral court. I truly believe Res 12 guys case would be won in such an environment – also there would be a snowball effect of the governing body then coming under scrutiny for its failings in governance and other related matters. I totally believe that both parties (SFA & TRIFC) would throw each other under the bus should such a scenario develop and who knows what juicy morsels would then be revealed! Look at all we learned from the Craig Whyte trial for example!

Raymobhoy
5 years ago

Having watched the excellent “The Spiders Web – Britains Secret Empire” on YouTube (and i recommend everyone here watches it too),it is plain that the City of London police turn a blind eye to corruption, so i wouldnt put too much faith in them.

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Oh thanks pal, YOU are a man of quality, the only surprise for me is how you associate with that Wally Dug.. Del Monti..

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

😉

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Weered,
I’m a big fan of Star Wars

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Weered,
Yes & i have also seen Mike’s….Obi wan the nobby 😉

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

I like the Dundee version, Phasers tae Monti… 😉

5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

None taken Charlie – forgive the boys Tis just their way!

Monti
5 years ago

Caption: ” Gazza, we’ll get off here if you don’t mind “?

50 Shades of Green
5 years ago

Pig farmer should have gone to Specsavers.

Mike
5 years ago

That’s an udder disgrace!

What kind of pig knows karate, Pork chops.

Caption, Mork and Mindy go berry picking, you get a better taste if you take her cherry.

5 years ago

Caption
Pig farmer just back from specsavers

Stuart McWilliams
5 years ago

Ralph,

Sky subscription cancelled as of this morning.

Ah, that feels good.

5 years ago

Thank you for reproducing the letter we published. While the signatories to our petition come from across the Board it’s probably fair to say that per head Aberdeen, Hearts and Celtic are well represented. I don’t think it’s an accident that they are among those with the most skin in these issues.

In our view this is the last chance to take meaningful action on the events of 2011/12 and the consequential events. The only club with enough traction at Board level to take this forward – and it needs to be a club – is Celtic. If Celtic fans want cross party support for meaningful reform this is where the ball starts rolling. I wish the Res 12 petitioners and shareholders every luck in moving this forward.

Should it fail to advance and wither on the SFA judicial process vine, as an organisation our focus will move firmly to fan representation at club level and within the SFA/SPFL to make sure fans cannot be ignored on such important issues going forward. Best of luck and wishes for a successful AGM.

Mike
5 years ago

Well done yous and good luck to yea, keep up the pressure…

Monti
5 years ago

Fans without scarves,
Sorry but i’m not buying this ” Celtic is the club with the traction ” pish, this is an issue for ALL clubs, with the exception of the huns.
To say that Celtic must lead the fight is just pish in my opinion.
All the fucking other clubs & their fans have had long enough to voice their concerns, leaving it to Celtic is a fucking complete cop out by other clubs & turns it into the Celtic v ” rangers ” thing, which it isn’t!
The clubs showed their strength when they said no to Newco, they can & should have done it again on this issue.
By their ( other clubs ) inaction just makes Celtic out to be the ones who need to ‘ let it go ‘, fucking bullshit.
Those who stay silent on this are a fucking disgrace & i include Celtic board in that.
Celtic DON’T need to take a lead, ALL the clubs do & if they choose not to, fuck them!

5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

You seem angry Monti judging by all the swearing. Perhaps this unfriendliness to fans of other clubs is part of the reason they are not so disposed to step forward and back Celtic on issues such as these. One club can’t do it all that is correct. At this point only one club can pull the iron out the fire on this issue which can rattle the SFA to a degree not seen since Farry was disposed. That doesn’t make it just a Celtic issue so no need to be on the high horse.

I get the rivalry and competitiveness make Scottish fitba what it is. Divided we fall apart though. I sincerely hope this kind of attitude to those that want the same thing re the SFA isn’t a majority one or we’ll be stuck in the past for a long time.

Monti
5 years ago

FWS,
Fans of other clubs don’t give a fuck about Celtic, they probably think it’s funny that Celtic lost out more than most.
If they do care about the games governance how come we never hear from them?
When Petrie said to move on where was the action from Hibs fans?
Milne at Aberdeen the same, where is the pressure being applied on him from his own support?

The media want this to be a Celtic v ” rangers ” issue which it isnae, we are years down the line & not one fucking club, including Celtic have done nothing, a fucking statement every three years? Pish.

I couldn’t give one fuck for any fan of any club in Scotland outwith Celtic!

That stance would change if i seen fans/clubs taking ACTION!

Monti
5 years ago

Fans without scarves,
May i ask what team you support, just out of interest?

5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Monti

I think we need to separate supporters from their Boards and not put both in the same bracket nor indeed put all supporters of other clubs in the same bracket.

There are many decent folk suporting other clubs who share the same honesty values that Celtic supporters do and here is evidence of it.

So we have a choice. Welcome like minded supporters or reject their support because they wear different scarves.

Together we stand etc.

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Auldheid

Auldheid,
Even Hearts fans? 🙂

5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

The guy writing this – Falkirk. Other 3 that participate in what we do are Celtic, Hearts and Ayr United. Auld heads points re fans and boards are exactly the problem. If this doesn’t go to uefa after the AGM as I said, fan rep will be our focus. Fans can’t be kept on the outside with no voice. You have more support within Aberdeen in particular on SFA incompetence than you might think. In fact if I can get in touch with the right people at the green end that might be visible both ends of Hampden very soon

5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

John 8:7 🙂

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Monti 10:9 🙂

portpower
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Deuteronomy 17:7

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Auldheid

Auldheid,
” Together we stand “?
Would that be the same who bood & heckled the minutes silence for John Paul II?
Fuck the lot of them!

I trust NO one in Scottish football other than Celtic supporters!

The thing i don’t like about this is Celtic being asked to ” lead because we have the greatest traction “…pish!

Why can’t other clubs do it, or are they happy being shafted?
So it’s like, these clubs aren’t happy …BUT…let Celtic start the fight?

Pish! Let those show their fucking hand, let them lead…but they fucking won’t!
We can’t let the media get their way on this, let ALL the clubs do it as an association of clubs, as member clubs, but don’t hang Celtic out to dry!

We owe fans of other clubs fuck all!
Bit they’ll take their Euro hand out tho…..

5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Who exactly would take the lead? What authority would they carry? The thing about Res12, what has kept it alive ,is the authority given to it by the adjournment in 2013.

The harsh reality is the capacity and authority to do what you want doesn’t exist so it must be created.

Fanswithoutswcarves and the Scottish Football Supporters Association (SFSA) , who have a manifesto on good governance and support from Hollyrood are folk who need to be encouraged not criticised.

Harsh realities aren’t pish, they just are.

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Auldheid,
What do you mean ” who would take the lead “?
The member clubs collectively, that’s who!

broxburnbhoy
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

I agree with Monti and have said all along that this is a Scottish Football Integrity Issue of which Celtic are a part and a long way from the whole. The MSM and others are gagging to turn this into a Celtic V the rest including “rangers” issue. I agree questions need answered. and the SFA and UEFA need to have a good look at this. I would like to see all clubs issuing a joint statement and demanding that the questions be answered. I think putting Celtic in peril on an issue which is a Scottish Football issue is ill advised. How about all the clubs barr one of course demand answers?

5 years ago
Reply to  broxburnbhoy

Noble – but it needs board support from a club to take it to UEFA. Maybe when we have proper high % shares in fan hands that’s more likely to happen. I’m sure you know yourself every other club will run into same issue Celtic have but with less fan backing as it’s less directly impactful.

What I mean is I agree but it’s not a route that will get results until we play with unloaded dice. Media support on the other hand could turn the tide.

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  broxburnbhoy

The very last body that should look at any of the issues involving Scottish fitba. are the SFA who have done SFA about this for years, same with the media, bent. The SFA, indeed through Regan collaborated fully with the Huns, same shite, different flies. Call them all out and take it to the City of London Police. Fraud is fraud.. That’s they way to do it.

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  broxburnbhoy

broxburnbhoy,
Cheers m8!

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Thank fuck its no “Fans without Pants” cos I willny be joining them if it wis, going commando is not an option, especially in the end of November…

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

higher northern latitudes, it canny reach the front garden, never mind anything higher…

Cartvale88
5 years ago

Caption
Heading home after an other day a Ibrokes.

I agree with every comment made about the ongoing cheating, our problem is the lack of will at director CEO level to deal with fans concerns.
It has become a moneymaking machine, arguing against the living wage, shocking stewarding, poor catering. When genuine cone concerns are raised, the attitude is nothing to be seen here move along.
BR is a hero, he should voice his concerns to the board at there lacklustre approach.

Jinkylarrson
5 years ago

Caption…tax dodged f.c supporters go to away games.

Mike
5 years ago

That Mrs Mack is my kinda gal, bhoy can she make a great cuppa tea, Susanna on the other hand, she would never get unchained from the heedboard. “The things am gonny dae tae you” that’s ma kinda poem..

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Oh aye am a big fan of them…

Mike
5 years ago

Isn’t it funny that when the AGM is just around the corner, the gutter press start to publish how great Celtic is and what it does for the local economy, what it does for the people of Glasgow. They rarely bring up how much Celtic give to Scottish football, the great things that the support does, or our C.L. qualifying monies, how the nations co-efficiency improves. You would think that they were being manipulated wouldn’t you.

5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

The report was commissioned by the club and the publishing just before the AGM would be our decision.

The upside is that this counteracts a lot of negativity of how we’re a drain on resources eg SNHS, Police etc when this is demonstrably false.

The downside is the scheduling to produce a temporary feelgood “don’t rock the boat” support the club mentality to try to avoid the asking of awkward questions tomorrow.

I was intrigued by the comment that employees are paid in excess of the Living Wage, as I thought we remained unaccredited as we were deficient by about £0.5m per year to achieve that.

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

They could have, should have published it when the Torbett case was making all the headlines, for days, negating the bad publicity and not try to alter minds and hearts before the AGM.

5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Agreed.

5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

Ah right, so part timers not, hence no Living Wage accreditation.

BroxburnBhoy
5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

Cha – that referee to full time employees. I’m guessing the part time folks and sub contracted folks are on less.

5 years ago
Reply to  BroxburnBhoy

Yep, get that now.

I think I read it would only take about £400Kpa to cover them and become a Living Wage accredited employer.

As well as being the right thing to do, it seems a small price to pay giving all the positives that would flow eg happy employees, good publicity etc.

BroxburnBhoy
5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

Agree – best thing to do and good for everybody

Una
5 years ago

Caption

Gascoigne heading into hmp belmarsh hall of fame

Rosco
5 years ago

Lock up ur grandmas, Wayne Rooney is back in England and in the prowl

Dennis Doherty
5 years ago

While I support all issues regarding the search for justice, can anyone tell me what the attendance will be for the next game against Sevco?

Same as the last one I would bet!

We the fans are the only ones who can make change and the only way to do that is to stop paying, don’t buy the product!!!

When the bottom line drops, so will they!

But how many are willing to do this?????

Very few I would venture 🙁

5 years ago
Reply to  Dennis Doherty

There were over 59,000 Celtic fans at the last game against Sevco and in the next one there will be less than 1,000.

What exactly is your point or don’t you have one?

5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

You’ve got to have realistic targets.

After 5 years of Res12 there are still a significant number of fans prepared to give the board more leeway and time to sort this out.

That is far easier than a boycott (sic) of a Huns game, so let’s eat the elephant one bite at a time and not boil the ocean all at once (add your own cliche of choice here).

jimmybee
5 years ago

Just imagine if what happened to Sevco was Celtic.How would the daily Ranger have covered it.
News just in by Keith Jackass?
I can exclusively reveal that after a raid by London metropolitan police officers at Celtic park in relation to another matter today,
damaging letters have been found which were secretly stashed away,which proves that Celtic has used a tax avoidance scheme to secure players that they couldn’t normally afford in order to win cups and titles and gain an unsporting advantage over their old firm rivals and all the other clubs in Scotland. What makes it worse is that the powers who govern our game is complicit in the knowledge of the actions of Celtic,and even helped them gain a uefa licence which has denied other clubs millions of pounds in potential European revenue.
I call on every supporter,every director of every club in Scotland to demand an open and just inquiry into the financial affairs of Celtic,and demand Uefa do the same in the granting of the licence which should never have been allowed knowing now what we do from the former Celtic directors Craig Whyte court case.

I’m sure it would have been front page news and on TV.
Why is it so difficult to ask one simple question
of Uefa.
Why is it so difficult for the media to acknowledge that what happened here in Scotland to the beautiful game has to be addressed.
The answers my friends are all in the lodge meetings seek and thee will find.
Only in this week bigoted country could one club get away with something so wrong and damaging yet make out that they were the innocent party.
Res12 has to win if it doesn’t the game here is over.

jimmybee
5 years ago

Auldheid I read with interest one particular paragraph of yours which if right which I’m sure you are then it doesn’t seem that complicated in fact a fax or email from our club could have an answer very quickly I would imagine given the facts. You say

The proper process given latest UEFA statements on club licensing is for Celtic to take the matter to UEFA Club Financial Control Body who then decide if a breach of UEFA FFP occured, how it occurred and take whatever remedial action is necessary.

If neither the SFA nor TRFC like the CFCB decision then they can take matters to CAS.

Traverso in his response to Celtic shareholders stated that if a member club (ie Celtic) wanted the matter pursued they should take it up with UEFA direct. Which is all that Res12 asked.

Nothing more nothing less.
Is it that easy ? If so then what’s our board playing at,and all this about other clubs getting involved then we don’t need them.
Fuck it if everyone thinks it’s just an us v them thing because it always will be.

5 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

Well that was the thinking behind Res12 in 2013 and all that has or hasn’t happened since supports it.

Celtic wanted the matter handled domestically and since only a member club could go to UEFA that wish was reluctantly accepted.

What has happened since tells us imo that this was not the way to go but now is the time to correct the mistake.

5 years ago

Since I’m on here is Phil MacGiollaBhain’s view on Res12 and the AGM.

https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/2018/11/20/celtic-agm-2018-and-a-legacy-issue-that-will-not-go-away/#more-12627

jimmybee
5 years ago

Caption:Fuck sake Sadie see when you said let’s go on a bar crawl I didn’t expect this.

jimmybee
5 years ago

Dear Peter
First of all let me congratulate and thank you for all you are doing in the good name of Celtic.
Paradise has never looked better,and with the hotel and museum to come it truly is a wonderful legacy you are leaving for our grandchildrens children.
But as you are aware Peter some things for us Celtic supporters are far more important than disco lights,hotels walkways etc, that is truth honesty and justice.We are a support who would give their life if needed to the Celtic cause,just say the word we will be there,but we also have in our DNA the right to fight injustice in whatever shape or form we see it.
So with this in mind and you being of the same DNA as us we simply request this from you.
To send today a simple request to UEFA Club Financial Control Body who will then decide if a breach of UEFA FFP occured, how it occurred and take whatever remedial action is necessary.
We will support you and the club and accept the decision by Uefa through this process.
Do this Peter and this will be your greatest legacy.
Yours in Celtic
Jimmy and Sean (Grandfather and Grandson )

Yoker Bhoy
5 years ago

Jamesie Forrest at the doublé again and it’s only half-time. Brilliant finishing from the wee man.

5 years ago
Reply to  Yoker Bhoy

Good setup by Christie for 2nd.

charlie
5 years ago

caption someone said sevco are cummin and the beauties but biters of the blue order rush to accommodate

charlie
5 years ago

jamsie the hatrick man aint he grand

5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

Get him off and wrap him in cotton wool!

charlie
5 years ago

if older celtic players are a guide wee jamsie wulnae get another gemme for jockistan ha ha ha ha

5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

Those days are passed now and in the past they must remain.

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

MY ARSE

5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

It’s purely a “needs must” scenario and they absolutely loathe it but unless you believe The Rangers Are Coming it ain’t changing anytime soon.

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

RANGERS UR DEID

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

the laptop loyal will be fuckin exstatic ha ha ha

charlie
5 years ago

somebody said persistance beats risistance and the res 12 guys will get us ther GOD BLESS THUM COYBIG

Monti
5 years ago

James Forrest simply world class!

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

MONTI THE ZOMBIE PRESS WILL BE SAYING WHY CAN HE NO BE WORLD CLASS SOMEWERE ELSE HA HA HA HA AINT OOR JAMSIE GRAND

charlie
5 years ago

a concur

charlie
5 years ago

the lisbon lions wooda won jockistan the fuckin world cup but alas ther bigotry was stronger than ther patriotism fuckum

charlie
5 years ago

ide play yees a few rebel songs but the moderator is a cunt ha ha ha ha bring back resource limit ha ha ha

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

so fuck yoos ile hiv ma ain party ha ha ha ha

charlie
5 years ago

ralph fuck this resource limit pish if we need tae pay for links ile pay for it personally ………wae mike the fermers sheep ha ha ha ha only kidden mikey put the shotgun away ha ha ha

charlie
5 years ago

aint it grand wee jamsie makes zombies hate a jockistan victory he he

charlie
5 years ago

heers wan for jmmy b if they let it through…….. oor lukey singing aboot joe hill enjoy

charlie
5 years ago

jimmy bee thers a wee follow up

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

in case it disnae get played viva la quinta brigada wis the hymn

Iancelt67
5 years ago

Decided to paint my place forest green and white after that

Iancelt67
5 years ago

Well fans without scarves. I was going to put up a “men without hats” song as a tribute to your efforts. But the site has been inundated with all kinds of videos. Good luck in your travails and bring down the hun. I feel like a war bride

portpower
5 years ago

That`s the sort of Bhoy James Forrest is.
He can bring employment to those of the…

Suborn Football Association.

portpower
5 years ago

Caption:
Evidence has been divulged that Stevie G`s tapping up Area 51.

Follow us on Twitter @ETimsNet

Discover more from eTims

Subscribe now to keep reading and get access to the full archive.

Continue reading