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Celtic Diary Friday October 5: Awayday Woes Again ? Maybe Not…

Celtic were comprehensively beaten in Salzburg last night, the final score of 3-1 adding to the list of poor results overseas.

I read somewhere that under Brendan Rodgers, Celtic have scored 52 and conceded 52 in Europe. Take away the qualifiers against the “wee ” teams, and that makes for pretty sad reading.

Yet, it wasn’t as bad as it looks.

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Forgive the green tinted specs for a moment, and hear me out..

Celtic took an early lead through Oddsone Edoaurd. The perfect start, and could have been two up just before half time. Another Edouard goal was chalked off.

The much maligned defence had held firm, and Salzburg, despite having much of the possession, were rattled.

It was clear that they would come out swinging at the restart, and they did. They got one back, and rodgers decided to make a change, but as he was doing that, they scored again.

Add that to the penalty-the offence took place outside the box-and Celtic can actually take a wee bit of pride in their efforts against what will probably be the best side we play this season.

And they were good. In fact, they were relentless. Unlimited energy, enthusiasm and above all team work. They played like a team that had been playing together for years.

In fact, much like the way Celtic would have been expected to be playing by now, two years on from the invincible season…

They also showed us how to deal with a side that has set out to defend against them. We didn;t see any passing side to side, we just saw attack after attack, and when one broke down they just picked themselves up, got the ball back, and started another one.

There was no shame in the defeat, and had that been a two legged knockout tie, we may have been looking at it rather differently-an away goal and a chance to rectify it at Celtic Park.

So, can we stop looking for scapegoats ?

The defence were excellent in the first half, but were a little under the cosh after the break. Like many other sides who go to the Red Bull arena, they succumbed eventually, but in the first half they all played very well.

There are four games to go in this group, and they are all important.

We’re not out of it yet, not by any means, and no one expected us to win all six games. Certainly, no one expected a win last night.

 

Rodgers was philosophical..

“It was a great start for us. Good pace to get there, pace and strength and then a wonderful finish.

“You can see how Salzburg play, they are a very good side but we limited them really in terms of clear chances 

But at this level you have to be better with the ball and keep the ball and be able to play quicker with minimal touches, otherwise you don’t get a rest in the game and that hurt us.

“But the guys gave everything, even when down to 10 men they were running, fighting, working and as I said we were just beaten by the better team.” 

Its arguable that they worked very hard to get the ball back, but we could have been better with our passing out of defence, and Scott Brown was missed, if only for his experience in keeping the heads up after the first and second goals.

That would also have given us the option of using the impressive Yousseff Mulumba alongside him when things needed tightening up later in the second half.

But, it was was it was, and we’ll get over it.

In the other game , Leipzig won in Trondheim, leaving Rosenborg adrift at the foot of the table, and with a double header next against the Germans, Celtic need to pick themselves up quickly and get back into the groove.

 

Social media has seen the Celtic support blame everyone from Lawwell to the bus driver for the defeat, and whilst there’s little doubt his spat with Rodgers in the summer has halted any on field progress, we should maybe leave off the players, as they don’t need the grief.

There’s a lot of football between now and the winter break, and the last thing we need is supporters turning on the players, and indeed, each other.

 

That scenario would suit the media, who have shown their true colours over the last few weeks.

Ten in a row terrifies the establishment, and they have realised that this season is their best, and possibly last, chance of halting the Celtic juggernaut, while its metaphorically in for a service.

If they can’t do that, they will certainly try to stop antoher treble, as we have seen with the shennanigans over the League cup semi final.

In last nights podcast, available on here and on itunes, Etims colleague Hector Bandido came up with the real reason-in his mind-why the semi final was shifted to Edinburgh, and its very plausible when you think about it.

He reckons that with Celtic in Edinburgh, only two sets of fans have to travel, whereas if Aberdeen and “rangers ” were in the capital, there would be three.

Social unrest might be a problem with two sets of fans arriving in Edinburgh and another one leaving.

Had that been explained to the public, then no one would have said a word.

But perhaps we are crediting the authorities with too many smarts, and they hadn’t even thought of that.

Celtic Quick News featured an article which more or less asked everyone to leave Neil Doncaster alone as he’s not such a bad guy and its all the other clubs who are. Doncaster only has one vote,-the number of voted , i believe , is linked to the amount of things one has done for the good of Scottish football, and he got his in lieu of him resigning one day-  and he was outvoted by the others on the panel.

They were, from the article…

Alan Burrows (Motherwell), John Nelms (Dundee), Warren Hawke (Morton – still smarting after Celtic refused to postpone their Scottish Cup tie in March), Martin Ritchie (Falkirk), Iain Dougan (Stranraer), as well as chairman Murdoch MacLennan and non-exec Karyn McCluskey.

All of whom would have considerable experience in organising big games…

The article is interesting for a number of reasons, not least the reference to the other clubs in Scotland not wishing to align themselves-or being seen to align themselves-with Celtic.

Doncaster is seen as an obstacle by some Premiership clubs.  It suits them to have him portrayed as an incompetent, when in fact, he is picking up the tab for the weak thinkers who are ultimately in control of football in Scotland. 

Reading between the lines here, and being fully aware of how Lawwell feels about Doncaster, I’d say that there was something in this, and it goes some way to explaining why there has been little support from those who run the other clubs in Scotland when it comes to the Resolution 12 issue.

but we should go it alone, as although the clubs wouldn’t support it, their fans would. Well, except one, obviously.

Then again, they might want a fresh start as well, after years of being fleeced…especially now they’re back to being “pure dead brulliant n that.”

Don’t underestimate their desire for revenge, its just that they are being told to blame the wrong people.

Lawwell knows we need a league to play in, but perhaps the resignation of the club from the league after the tenth title-in a sort of retire undefeated way, will shake them up a little. I think rules mean a two year notice is required, so it would need to be done next summer.

I’m no fan of joining the English-or any other-league but enough is enough.

These clubs collectively filled their underwear when Rangers went under, as they were scared of life without the blue pound, so its maybe time to tell them we’re taking the green pound away instead.

Sometimes you have to show them who is boss.

As the season develops, so will the campaign of bad Celtic press.

It reached a peak for me today with Mo Camara, a player who would make you happy to have amnesia, spoke to the Sun, and criticised Celtic for not selling Moussa Dembele last year..

When they signed him he was a good Championship player – he’s playing at a very high level now. I think it was the right time for him for him to move but Celtic probably could have got a bit more money for him had they sold him last season.

“I just think it would’ve made sense if they’d sold Moussa last season because they would’ve got more money! Like when there was some interest from England, if they had sold him then they’d have got more money for him than they did today.”

Eddie Redman, writing for This Is Futbol, added..

Camara has hit the nail on the head – Lawwell knew Dembele was up for sale at the right price and considering the fees offered by English clubs nowadays could have been swimming in cash right now – or at least have the players that could push Celtic to more success.

Champions League football could still be in Glasgow had the Hoops sold and reinvested – but instead they are struggling on all fronts.

Lawwell’s blunder meant Celtic missed out on the big-money payday, and it has cost them in the long run.

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From now on in, every decision, every result and every word spoken by anyone at the club will be twisted, turned and regurgitated in a way that shows the club in a bad light.

Ignore it.

We’ve got them on the run, and they’re trying to get us off their tails..

Its Friday again, and its time for

Knob of the Week

Who else ? There is only one contender this week, despite a few putting up efforts that would have seen them clear winners any other time.

The compliance officer has given Scott McKenna a twp game ban for the challenge on Oddsone Edoaurd in last weeks game against Aberdeen.

It was ignored by the referee, who usually ignores this sort of challenge on Celtic players, there was a list in Mondays diary..but the resultant publicity meant the SFa had to do something.

They also demoted the Referee for this weekends games-He;s got the Falkirk match, where he can at least be among friends.

Bobby Madden, an official who wears his heart on his sleeve for his own club, for his efforts in rsponding to a call of duty, is awarded

Knob of the Week

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Yesterday, we had this picture..

henkesdreadlocks October 4, 2018 at 8:56 am · Edit · Reply →

Caption………

Arlene Foster devises new border control methods.

 

today, we have this…

 

 

 

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D'Fhinnein Mick
5 years ago

CAPTION

George Foreman on his first day’s work experience.

Knob of the week is anyone who can take anything positive from that last night. Toothless up front,gutless in midfield and spineless in defence. But at least those players pulled on the jersey. We have far too many who CGAF about the jersey and will take the money,but are on the treatment table every time they break a shoelace.

Now I don’t know whose fault this is,because half of them were signed before BR turned up,half after (ish) but I’ve had enough of it. If you aren’t good enough,GTF. If you don’t want to play for the club/fans/jersey,GTF. And if you think the grass is greener elsewhere,good luck.

It will for sure be greener at CP without a buncha charlatan prima donna never-will-be wankers.

Gerald Allen
5 years ago

Funny how things turn out, but here’s me in my mid 70s and a confirmed armchair warrior to boot but having missed the first minute and got seated just as Edouoarde scored, then watching how they performed, particularly without Brown right up to the first half and a few minutes after and seeing how the RB Salzburg players were getting really frustrated up to their equalising goal(I didn’t expect the bhoys to win) my thoughts were if we can play like this in the league, then given a few games we can be top of the league or second and then show the sevco’s and the rest of them, plus Liewell what Celtic are abut.I take your bestowing the title of KOTW with a certain amount of regret, D’Finnhein Mick because you are a far more regular contributor to this blog than I ever will be but I felt moved to make this reply to your very harsh criticism or the team and its performance last night, in fact if I may be allowed to say so, I think you are trying to out Monti, Monti in his attitude to the team. Hail. Hail.

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Gerald Allen

GA,
My attitude towards the team is what it should be, i want the team to win & win by playing in an all out attack, fuck every team manner.
If you are referring to my attitude towards Boyata, well let’s put it this way, he fucked his team mates, the club & the support over…
Fuck him & i don’t give two fucks about anyone else’s ooinion on him.
He wouldn’t have put a shirt on his back again if it were up to me, get him tae fuck in January!

Oh and you can get fucked as well!

D'Fhinnein Mick
5 years ago
Reply to  Gerald Allen

Thanks,Gerrard-I think?!

No,mate. I see your point,I’m usually more constructive and restrained in my criticism-even when I’m at a game,or watching it in the pub!

I just think that we have too many empty jerseys in that squad now. It’s heartbreaking to watch,but it must be gut-wrenching to play alongside some of them.

I’d be tempted to tackle them myself,just to show them how it’s done-even though they are wearing the same colours as me!!!

5 years ago

Caption: George Foremans first day at the Dailly Rangers sport’s desk,gets of tae a bad start…….HH

Spudscave
5 years ago

Caption Teacher right who’s the smart arse playing a trick on the new blind pupil

5TB
5 years ago

Caption

The laptop broil.

Agree, let the manager and players get on with it. I believe DD has BR remotivated again. Caveat though. The Heated Driveway better sanction some significant signings in January, or all back to dismay again, leading to BR exit.

Never forget; Peter Lawwell equals Celtic compromised.

HH!

Mike
5 years ago

The constant being put down, our having to accept basic unfairness, decisions being forced on us, our weak response, its depressing. I gave up reading the constant put down stories from the press, the drivel coming out of ex players, the negative press years ago. What matters most to me like thousands of others is Celtic F.C. I can ignore the noise from outside the club. You can feel how much they hate our club, the only way to beat that hatred is to win games, to answer the hatred on the park, by playing them off the park. We are up against so much in our bigoted society and that bigotry expresses itself more on or around Scottish football, I long for the day that we leave it all behind.

5 years ago

Lawell to I T department,it’s the best computer there is honest !

Eddie
5 years ago

Caption : The closest the SMS get to asking Stevie G some grilling questions.

Admin
5 years ago

Hot off the Press!

5 years ago

Clyde Superscoreboard saturday welcome back Derek Johnstone!

If you have a wee spare hour – please give the podcast a whirl – https://etims.net/?p=13480

We discuss ( and with quite differing opinions!) items including:

Are Salzburg really that good or did we just collapse?
Is the Future bright, dark or somewhere in between?
Are Peter and Neil no longer in love?
Why does Paul Lambert love Pep Guardiola?
Can Ralph actually work phone speakers?

BJF
5 years ago

That’sit I couldn’t quite put my finger on it well done Ralph, sack the bus driver! Salzburg are our level of a club and we couldn’t keep the ball, there was a flowing moment in the second half begun I think by Sinclair where 6 or 7 Celtic players passed the ball. One real moment, we do that for about 70 at Celtic Park. Mulumba, as most of us thought, was a class act but where was the real N’tham, his useless twin brother played last night. Don’t agree it was down to Lustig and Hendry, for the first hour they were fine but nothing ahead of them. Odsonne, apart from a wonder goal flapping around, Griffiths invisible, Forrest tackled back well but up front poor and McGregoe fits and starts but a shadow of the player he was last season. Anyway fine now, St Johnstone on Sunday is crucial, so they need to step up as they did against Aberdeen, the result is everything, I don’t want Broonie rushes back we need him even more for two crucial games against Hearts though I appreciate 3 points is the same in every league game but beating Hearts twice would create momentum and get right up the media.

Brian (not the messiah)
5 years ago

Caption: new rangers accounts dep hotkeys laptop designed for cooking the books

Iancelt67
5 years ago

Caption
IT expert covering the Govan region has a sickie

5 years ago

Rangers2012 result against Rapid Vienna was achieved against a club 19 points behind Salzburg , with both clubs having played 9 games .

That doesn’t excuse Celtic who for some reason couldn’t match Salzburg fitness wise . The efforts Celtic put in keeping Salzberg out in the first half mean’t that their physical & mental tiredness resulted in not enough men making the runs to cut out danger in the second half . I wonder was it B R tactics for Ntcham to make lone raids in 2nd half , that didn’t work Celtic didn’t look dangerous, but our team was loosened up & under even more pressure
I don’t think Forrest should have had any attacking role until we fell behind, it didn’t make sense , we got the patient of how to break them down in the 2nd minute , just turn their defenders by a ball over the top & test them out . That was playing to our strengths & maybe worry them . They proved to be a different class passing the ball , so why should we do what we were weak at

Doc
5 years ago

Last night was a disgrace and it symbolised what is wrong at Celtic. This season, every team we have played has less money, smaller stadium and a lower wage bill, yet we are toiling. I’m fed up of hearing that we don’t have the money to compete in Europe because we don’t have EPL-type money because a hell of a lot of other teams manage to do so without it. Forget about European giant-killing nights, dwarf is barely our level.

We need to look at clubs like Salzburg and figure out how they are able to punch above their weight while we struggle with smaller clubs. They got to the UEFA cup semis last year and their starting 11 cost the same as Edouard.

Last night we started with a formation i don’t think we’ve started a game with for years, our back four contained our three most maligned players, our midfield had never played together like that, our strikers have spent only minutes playing together like that and our best player was injured. Considering all that, i thought we played bloody well in the first half, we were under the cosh for spells but there was oppurtunities, we just chose the wrong options.

It looked like Deila and Mowbray returned at half time and we started the second half alternating between a back three/back four, did the players even know what was going on? Then we changed back to our ‘one up front’ garbage and this just led to one way traffic, it was about ten minutes before Sinclair even got near the ball. Why play Sinclair in the centre and McGregor wide left? That could well have been Tierney’s worst game. Those that want a back three and Forrest as a wing back, his moment of madness showed why that won’t work. I don’t know why Mulumbu is getting praised as he gave the ball away so often.

I thought our best player was Boyata, he had a lot to do last night and he done it, won headers, tackled well, made some vital blocks and was one of our best passers. When Minamoto? switched to the left he got nothing from Boyata.

We say every week about how teams sit deep and deny us space in the final third yet, last night, we were given so much space but somehow we couldn’t pass the ball into the 10-20 yards of space that were opened up so often on both sides.

This is barely scratching the surface but the worst bit is that sevco have went from pot 4 to top the group while we are in a position to go out.

Caption: Rodgers wants to get George Foreman in to talk to the players about spirit, training, fight and giving it your all. Peter Lawwell negotiates the deal.

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Doc

Doc,
In what way was last night a disgrace?
You are aware that RB Salzburg were in the Europa league semi final last season?

Doc
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

The ways listed to start with. I know how far they’ve got as every time I give examples of teams we should be doing as good as/better than in Europe, I’ve included them. They sold two of their best players in the summer, didn’t replace them, and lost four goals in their last two games in Europe. They are a smaller club than us in almost every way except where it counts – on the pitch. Compare money, wages, support, commercial/tv income and we are on top, yet we are failing.

broxburnbhoy
5 years ago
Reply to  Doc

Sometimes Doc, its not us – its them. That was last night

Doc
5 years ago
Reply to  broxburnbhoy

I think we are so used to playing teams with no ambition/damage limitation that when a team actually tries to win against us we talk them up and make them out to be far better than they actually are.

Look at who we’ve played in Europe the last two years and how far off the consensus of opinions have been at predicting how far our opponents will go:
Barca – semis/finals – reality, out in the next round
Man City – quarters/semis – out in the next round
German team – go far in UEFA cup – quarters
Astana – strong UEFA cup team – bottom of group
Hapoel – go far in UEFA cup – last 32
PSG – winners – out in the next round
Rosenborg – strong UEFA cup team – bottom of group
Zenit – semis/finals – out in the next round

The only exception is Bayern, who looked good against us while the new manager implemented a new system but they got a lot better a the season went on.

Our perception of our European opponents seems to be skewed and it masks our own failings.

Iljas Baker
5 years ago
Reply to  Doc

Totally agree Doc.

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Doc

Mike Bassett

Uralius
5 years ago
Reply to  Doc

Its ironic that Red Star played that formation and knocked out Salty Red Bull with all home grown players.

Uralius
5 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

They started parking the bus and rather than just do what Kurgan Klopp has done, he is trying to change too much. It’s not the formation itself it’s the 1 dimensional players and the inability to adapt to playing differently when 1 thing isn’t working. That’s what made Larsson great, he could play so many different roles and change his game in an instant. We only have 2 players that can change their Rilke at the drop of a hat and they are Briony and Lustig. Armstrong was able to, but he has gone. Wee Mac has the ability, but seems to lack the experience/intelligence, Forrest also falls into this category.

Doc
5 years ago

same here

Rebus67
5 years ago

Ask yourselves did Mr Doncaster negotiate good commercial deals for the league? Did he always find a sponsor and what was the level of funding obtained? Do the same for the TV deals.
Did Mr Doncaster suggest that Sevco and Rangers were the same club?

Was any of the above the fault of the clubs in the league?

When you have answered these questions do you think Mr Doncaster is competent and merely misunderstood?

Rebus

Rebus67
5 years ago

Post gone missing again. Getting fedup with this so I’ll take a break from posting for a while.

Rebus

Konrad
5 years ago

Caption – Neil Doncaster ready for work.

Una
5 years ago

Caption

Brendan Rodgers asks lawell for a new centre back

broxburnbhoy
5 years ago

The MSM, the SFA, the SPFL ex players and hostile pundits are out to get at us. Every small piece of news is spun to be anti Celtic, every performance heralds BR leaving or players slacking, the ex Celtic players are piling on and we are doing our bit to feed this beast with stupid rumours and over critical – critical is ok and yet over critical amateur analysis of the games. Last night we were beaten by a team that came out fired up and have lots of talent. Unbeaten at home and a very good side. We had a decent first half and a poor second half. That’s it really. Once tactical error brave and yet misguided which gave them more room. We lost a football match one of 6 in the group. We have won one and lost one. No crisis. Aviod falling into the anti Celtic narrative of the rest of Scotland. Id be surprised if the hun sites criticized Celtic as much as we do.

broxburnbhoy
5 years ago

Caption: Celtic blogger prepares to waffle

Uralius
5 years ago
Reply to  broxburnbhoy

Brilliant mate!

5 years ago
Reply to  broxburnbhoy

Ralph the Waffle?

Mike
5 years ago

I never saw our manager looking more depressed than last night, its as if his “enthusiasm meter” has been doused. The figures are extraordinary when you learn that we spent around £60 mill. on the footballing side. “Really” we spend around £3.00 mill. of that on the youth set up “Really” why, to supply other clubs with their best players. When you see the list of players we have signed and sold for peanuts and who appear and then just as quickly disappear, its mind-boggling. When the C.E. is the director of football “Really” then the first thing you do is relieve him of the hold he has in bringing in any new players. This is not at all funny, this is a serious waste of the income to the club, it has to be looked at and then streamlined. Some of the players we have are just not up to playing in Europe at the moment, when you witness the softest ball coming into the box and 5 Internationalists cannot deal with it, then its time for change. Aye “Really”.

Uralius
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

If you look at the conversation had 2 blogs ago between myself and Doineach Saiz you will find that we basically called how Salty Red Bull were going to line up and play. Both of us also discussed the pros and cons of lining up certain ways against them. While neither of us were absolutely correct we were right in speculating what would happen if certain tactics were used. If we can figure that out with a quick Google search then what the fuck are the tactical scouts at Celtic doing?

Uralius
5 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

Caption: Tactical/next opposition scout sets up to begin scouting RB Leipzig.

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

donnchadh is uralius another wanny your aliuses ya wee rascal

Uralius
5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

Naw it’s my alias, wit’s yours?

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

uralus and domchadh posting at the same time again ide tell thum tae get a room but they already share the same heid he he aint cunts wae multiple nom de plumes dumb as fuck

Tonydtic
5 years ago

A month since the transfer window and I’m still waiting for everyone’s new best pal Dedryck to be offered a new improved one year deal
That way he gets a wage rise, we keep him beyond January and cash in at the start of next summers transfer window, everyone wins. Without our best defender come January we’ll end up scraping the barrel for another Compper type signing as well as possibly losing Benkovic back to Leicester then it really will be tata eight in a row never mind ten.

Monti
5 years ago

Noted Henrik Larsson ( all rise ) is coaching a small Swedish side & not being paid for it?
Could do a lot worse than to bring the great man himself back home to Paradise?

Striker coach?

P.S. You’d have to pay Henrik, yes……..just not the living wage eh?

Nick67
5 years ago

CAPTION: Peter Lawwell “I can assure you, all revenues brought in by the business IS reinvested in the IT department”

jimboh
5 years ago

Caption….
Diversity in Technology.
Both devices can produce Waffle

5 years ago

Caption: the Scottish mainstream media are delighted with their brand-new George Foreman laptops. Mr Foreman has assured them that these laptops will guarantee that they will win all sorts of Press Awards with the stories about celtic that they write on them.

Una
5 years ago

I’m sure Ralph can back me up on this one i predicted a couple of months back that the morelos Suarez comparison bullshit would start under slippy g guesd what it had been raised in a few rags today absolute morons. Pom poms at the ready.

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Una

Una,
A few wees back you conceded the title to Sevco?
Mind switch that iron off now….

Una
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

At least i know how to switch it on, btw i know more and understand football better than you dog balls.

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Una

Una,
I’ll have you know i’ve been doing ironing since i was at high school, i do my bit about the house.
As for knowing more about football than i do?
Do you really want to put that to the test?
I suggest you pause Jeremy Kyle & get Google ready….

Wench.

jimmybee
5 years ago

I thought we did ok. Tactics spot on in the first half. Sadly players not being brave enough was our downfall. Tactics go out the window when players just cant pass the ball to one another.
After watching them last night I think we can beat them at home. Hendry still has lots to learn but i liked how he was brave to move with the ball out of defence. Confidence does wonders for a player. Lustig was outstanding in the first half, but how many times does he allow the ball to be played in from the same area that has led to a goal.We had them rattled for a while and hopefully with all our players fit we can be in better shape come the return legs.
It’s time for supporters to back our players they are now I think just simply waiting to blame one of our own. Sad.

FredDDobbs
5 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

We didn’t do ok. We have too many players in our team who are too slow. major work required. Lustig fucked up twice against the greeks and twice again against salzburg. The guy is a spent force now. I thought rodgers had lined up a proper right back before he went on holidays only for that cunt lawell to fuck it up.

Monti
5 years ago

Donny,
” shut the fuck up, you’re out of your element “

Monti
5 years ago

Caption: ” This’ll be Monti’s seat “

Una
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Probably the only hot thing you’ll ever feel around that part of your anatomy

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Una

Una,
That’s a bit personal is it not?
I don’t think Ralph would be happy if i had posted that to you…..

Keep going though….

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Weered,
This has a lengthy run in it…..:)

Uralius
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Doubt they make them big enough Monti, you might have to go old school. Try a Weber.

jimmybee
5 years ago

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» MÍCHEÁL MAC DONNCHA

IN the aftermath of the first Civil Rights march from Coalisland to Dungannon, in August 1968, it was announced that the next demonstration would be in the city of Derry. Civil Rights campaigners in Derry had been pressing for a march in their city which had long been a byword for unionist sectarianism and discrimination.

Using gerrymandered electoral boundaries and a corrupt voting system which allowed wealthier citizens to have multiple votes in local elections, the unionists maintained a majority of members on the council in a city with a nationalist majority. Nationalists lived in very poor housing conditions and were affected disproportionately by the 20% rate of unemployment in the city.

Unionists had long regarded the old walled town as a citadel that could never be surrendered and their dominance was symbolised by the walls towering over the crumbling 19th century terraced streets of the nationalist Bogside. The last time nationalists had attempted to hold a parade inside the walls was on St Patrick’s Day 1951, when they were batoned by the RUC.

Housing was a massive issue in Derry and the Derry Housing Action Committee (DHAC) provided the focus for leadership as the Civil Rights campaign took off. The DHAC had organised a James Connolly commemoration in the city in July 1968 which was banned by the unionist government.

The Northern Ireland Civil Rights Association (NICRA) agreed to hold a march in Derry on 5 October. The loyalist Apprentice Boys organisation immediately announced a counter-demonstration with the purpose of forcing the unionist government’s hand to ban the Civil Rights march. But the regime at Stormont did not require forcing because the Home Affairs Minister was ultra-unionist William Craig, who promptly imposed the ban.

EMERGENCY MEETING

NICRA held an emergency meeting with the DHAC. Many on the NICRA Executive and some Derry nationalist figures, including John Hume, wanted to cancel the march but the majority of Derry activists were determined to defy the ban. They won out and the march was to proceed as planned.

It was a relatively small march, beginning on Craigavon Bridge with several hundred people. The objective was the Diamond in the city centre. The march was stopped in Duke Street by the RUC. A meeting was held with speakers, including Gerry Fitt, Betty Sinclair, Eddie McAteer, Ivan Cooper, Austin Currie and Eamonn McCann. Three Westminster Labour MPs were also there.

After the meeting, the marchers found themselves hemmed in on all sides by the RUC. They could not disperse and, after a tense stand-off, the RUC – oblivious to the presence of TV cameras and photographers ­– unleashed an unprovoked attack on the crowd with batons, boots and fists. Water cannons were then used.

Bernadette Devlin McAliskey, then a young People’s Democracy activist, recalled:

“Quite deliberately, they hosed in the upstairs windows and shopfronts, and they went right across Craigavon Bridge, hosing all the onlookers. The police just went mad.”

MICKEY DEVINE

The RUC attack in Duke Street brought the Civil Rights struggle in Ireland to a world audience for the first time. It was a complete eye-opener to many people in the 26 Counties and in Britain. But most profound was its effect on young nationalists. Derry man Mickey Devine, the last of the ten Hunger Strikers to die in 1981, recalled:

“Like every young person in Derry, my whole way of thinking was tossed upside down by the events of 5 October 1968. I didn’t even know there was a Civil Rights march; I saw it on television.

“But that night I was down the town smashing shop windows and stoning the RUC. I developed an intense hatred of the RUC. As a child I had always known not to talk to them or to have anything to do with them, but this was different.

“Within a month everyone was a political activist. I had never had a political thought in my life but now we talked of nothing else. I was by no means politically aware but the speed of events gave me a quick education.”

The RUC attacked the Civil Rights march in Duke Street, Derry, on 5 October 1968

jimmybee
5 years ago

Caption :Keck Jackson waits to be fed his story from jabba

jimmybee
5 years ago

Good luck m8

Monti
5 years ago

Brendan Rodgers is a fantastic manager, the best we could have got & the best we could have wished for.
THE CEO & BOARD let HIM down….there lies the problem!

Lawwell OUT!

Monti
5 years ago

Lawwell isn’t standing up for the club, if Doncaster had said to me, the Celtic game goes to Murrayfield i’d have told him no it fucking isn’t, not until you tell us who & what were the reasons for deciding this?

Get a fucking answer for everything? Ask him wht he lied?
Ask him what he had for fucking breakfast….ffs wht are we taking their pish?

Fight the cunts…it’s your fucking duty.

Monti
5 years ago

What the fuc is a paradigm? Was that no the lamp on Glen Micheal’s cavalcade?

Or Para dim? Charlie Saiz 🙂

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Evening Comrade, good luck to the Reds tonight!

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

donnchadh knows paras are hard its blew a few ae thur trumpets

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Donna,
You think so?

Then again i’d be unarmed…..

Iancelt67
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Donnchahd, were you ever propositioned for sex by an officer. My dad was in the army. Signals and a paratrooper in ww2 loads of medals etc. he said their was a power of sodomy going on in the forces and it was more or less an officers privilege to pick out one of the young privates for their immediate pleasure

If that’s the culture and it makes one a better soldier who am in to argue. But I get a feeling in the gut that somethings wrong here

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Iancelt,
🙂

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

lions ha ha ha ha ha ha dae you practice being an arsehole

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Weered,
Charlie saiz wasn’t officer material then? 🙂

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Una?
Highly possible 🙂

Cartvale88
5 years ago

The tactics were a disaster last night, surely someone watched how this mob play, it is all out attack. The players did well to hold out till the 59th minute, but after that it was a meltdown. Some players ran there hearts out, but only to no avail.
Every year in Europe we are the also rans, going back all the way to Mon and Seville. Chesney and Lenny achieved miracles but look where that got them, the door.
There is an issue at Parkhead, sound systems, super dooper pitches, why not invest in some quality, and as said previously get rid of the shirkers that only turn up for glamour games
As always I support the club and there are better days ahead, I
I note McCall of Ayr a United is bad mouthing Madhun for not apologising for a stonewall penalty they should have got against the Wankers.
Caption
Punishment device for anyone that says anything positive about Celtic

Uralius
5 years ago
Reply to  Cartvale88

I completely agree Cart it was a joke! My post earlier in this thread mentions the same. It also points out that myself and Don Saiz basically knew how they were going to play… Etc….

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

ive seen sum shite wrote oan heer a lotty it by me but ffs its the loft dwellers answer tae big jock and pep ha ha ha ha

henkesdreadlocks
5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

Brilliant.

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

Uralius,
Have you tried LSD?

Una
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

If he did he’d probably think you r good looking

Uralius
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

No I haven’t, but I did eat a rotten potato once.

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Cartvale88

PISH

Una
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Pish pish a total dum dum reply when someone gets the better of u

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Una

No one has got the better of me……wench

Mike
5 years ago

There are a lot of factors to consider when you seek to go further in European competitions, like players being injured and not available, the kindness of the draw, who you have to play against, the money doping in big clubs, whose financial income or backer might have infinite funds available. But consider this, every time our manager has changed his selection in perhaps 4/5 changes for SPFL games, the team has come a cropper. Why is that? its my opinion that the fringe players are not good enough for the manager to make wholesale changes to the team. This bringing in inferior players has gone on for years, Gamboa, is a case in point, Brendan doesn’t trust him, then consider that we have six centre-halves, one hasn’t played one full game, one is only available 50% of the time, one is a loanee. To my mind its the poor quality signings that have gone on for years, so players in the team get not much rest. The development squad is filled with small players and most will not make it with Celtic, we produce these players for other clubs. We have brought in a huge number of sub standard players, who brought them into our club? Its a waste of supporters money, some of whom make sacrifices to pay for their season ticket. To me that is the crux of the matter, we aren’t getting value for the supporters money, until that changes…

jimmybee
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

^ totally agree with this

Monti
5 years ago

Did anyone see tge Tottenham Hotspur v Barcelona game the other night?
I take it the Spurs fans want rid of Pochettino now & their tactics ” were shite “?

OR…..Barcelona are better than Spurs…

Simple game this!

Spudscave
5 years ago

Caption Sevco tell the smsm there’s no more free halftime snacks bring yer own burgers and pies and it’s a pound tae heat them up.

Spudscave
5 years ago

Ps.and no popes eye steak allowed on the grill

Monti
5 years ago

Brendan Rodgers has won every trophy domestically available to him, he has guided the club through two CL qualifying campaigns to reach the group stages, bringing the club between £50-60m….
Unprecedented success, an open topped bus with a Treble on it amid fantastic scenes, now we have hit a rocky patch & some folk are questioning him?

Fucking nonsense!
Yes he has made some signings that haven’t contributed, he has to address that but surely he has earned a few ‘ mistakes ‘?
What we need to do now is unite, as one & face our challenges together?
Our knockers are having a right fucking go at our club, you know what let’s face everything head fucking on, let’s challenge every fucking word directed at our club, let’s face it, defeat it & blow the opposition away!

We are the 7 in a row Champions, we are the double treble winners, we are the fucking dominant club!
Murrayfield this Hampden that, Refs this linesmen that…..fuck the lot of them,
WE ARE CELTIC, LET THESE CUNTS HEAR IT, LET THEM KNOW IT!

WE ARE THE PAPAL!

Monti
5 years ago

GOD…..BLESS…..THE…..POPE!

Uralius
5 years ago

Fuck sake Monti we are not being absolute or personal! Some of us are just saying he got his tactics wrong. Nobody is writing “Brendan OUT!” You’re angry because Boyata played a blinder.

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

Uralius,
No i’m angry because he fucked the club & the support over…

FredDDobbs
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

rubbish. he is seeing his contract out unlike other fuckers. He has got about 4 good years left and wants more dosh. celtic either pay what he wants or he fucks off as per his contractural obligations.

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  FredDDobbs

Dobbs,
Are you employed sir?

Uralius
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

I do agree with you on this Monti. Although I don’t think being in AEK Athens position right now would be good.

Spudscave
5 years ago

Monti well said every 3 points we win sticks in the throat of the smsm and all the Sevco supporting refs and the cartel at Hampden fuck the lot of them were will win this league in a canter the fans that say fuck the cup competitions the league is more important wtf a want Celtic to win the lot imagine a treble treble that would kill them bring it on.

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Spudscave

Spud,
Correct, fuck the Europa league & fuck the CL as well!
Four qualifiers, 8 games just to get into the groups? Tell them to fucking ram it m8!

I want the 10 now, i want to see these Hun fucks panic like never before!
It’s a fucking disgrace to make Celtic play eight fucking games to qualify while these english cunts finishing 3rd, 4th saunter into the groups? Fuck that!

10 in a row & increase the volume on the Rebel songs at games home & away!

Tiocfaidharla

Puggy67
5 years ago

Interesting that in reporting hunpoundcoingate the BBC mention there’s no photo because the accused got ushered out the back of the court. That’s a privelage reserved for those that the turnkey thinks are deserving. I rest my case.

Spudscave
5 years ago

We will not were will stupid spellchecker lol

Monti
5 years ago

Taxi?

Iancelt67
5 years ago

There’s no excuse to be lower than red bull.
1 do they have a better manager?? No
2 is the Austrian league far superior to Scotland ? Probably not
3 apart from the Jew in their team and maybe the left midfielder who in their team are standouts? Fucking no one
4 red bull Salzburg aren’t a good team we let them play, we didn’t defend from the front. Griffiths and Edouard didn’t defend or give leads . Midfielders had no outlet and just ran with the ball till they ran out of options and lost it starting another attack from Salzburg . They weren’t better than last years
Anderlecht. Lustig and Hendry can’t defend properly. That runt of a jap outmuscled both Gordon and hendry to easily tap the ball in. Forrest has to not foul here If the player gets through on goal so be it good chance Gordon saves it and we have 11 on the field if he doesn’t then same outcome . We crumbled from a position of strength we crumbled because you’re only as good as your worst player and if your worst player isn’t any better than your oppositions worst player you’re fucked Sorry young Hendry it’s you probably will turn out to be a good young player if his confidence isn’t smashed from being thrown in too early

Over praising this red bull team is bullshit. They’re beatable. They’re not much better than molde or malmo. They’re of the same ilk . Without Rogic Brown Benkovic and Ajer. We are weaker , with those players we are equal to Salzburg. First half was very good and could have been repeated if we had a strong bench.

Monti
5 years ago
Reply to  Iancelt67

They were in the Europa league semi final last season, that suggests to me they are quality!

5 years ago
Reply to  Iancelt67

“apart from the Jew in their team”

WTF!? 🙁

Noel Skytrot
5 years ago
Reply to  Iancelt67

What do you mean by the “Jew” in the team?

FredDDobbs
5 years ago
Reply to  Iancelt67

“apart from the Jew in their team”

whats your point? yet another example of how the jews are great

FredDDobbs
5 years ago
Reply to  Iancelt67

Forrest has to not foul here If the player gets through on goal so be it good chance Gordon saves it and we have 11 on the field if he doesn’t then same outcome

Forrest was there in the first place because Lustig is a waste of a jersey. Thats your problem right there

Uralius
5 years ago
Reply to  Iancelt67

I posted this on the other page, but nobody slagged me aff, so I’m assuming you all missed it.
According to Transfermarket.co.uk
Celtic squad is valued at £66.38m
RB Salzburg are valued at £93.06m
Salzburg have 3 players worth more than 10 million.
Amadou Haidara joined RB Salzburg summer window of 2017 from FC Llerering for a £540k fee. He has been capped by Mali 4 times and at the tender age of 20 he valued at £13.5m.
Diadie Samassékou joined RB Salzburg on the first day of the summer window 2016 for a £270k fee. He has been capped by Mali 6 times and aged 22 he is worth £16.2m.
Munas Dabbur Joined RB Salzburg from Zurich club Grasshoppers on the first day of the summer window having spent only 1.5 seasons there for a fee of £5.40m he was then loaned back to Grasshoppers for the second half of the season last season he has been capped by Israel 9 times and at the age of 26 is worth £11.25m.
A player of note would be another midfielder Xaver Schlager who is valued at £9m he joined the club for a mere £360k from FC Liefering.
3 out of 4 of these players made the step up to the Austrian Budesliga when they joined Salzburg from the league below they are the only players that stand out and could be argued are massively superior (in terms of value) to any players Celtic has.
What this points out to me is that we are selling our players 1 year too early. If our players who left this year were in the team we would be equals (again in terms of value) and could possibly reach the quarter finals of the UEFA Cup and increase the value of our players significantly.
It’s worth noting that Gérard Houllier is the Global Sports Director for ALL Red Bull teams.

5 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

Interesting stuff and in conjunction with the near equality of revenue report by Ralph in the diary, although we qualified for the Champions League and they didn’t so they obviously have significantly higher income elsewhere than us (TV & Commercial I’d assume, as I’d guess our match-day income to be far higher).

Liefering are, I think, a feeder club and are probably used to game the system, similar to Man City with Arzani etc, where they can place players to develop and leave them there without the risk of others poaching so they don’t need to go and get them under-cooked.

I’m sure that most people don’t reckon Red Bull are playing fair so probably not a great comparison as we know UEFA will do nothing about it.

They’ve topped their EL Group a record 4 times (won all 6 last year) and are odds-on to do it again, which is stratospherically above anything we’ve done.

They’re not a Tier 1 club but must come into a ‘best of the rest’ equation, although the big puzzle is why the hell can’t they qualify for the CL?

I also saw something that said wages was a more realistic measure of a team’s worth. I’m not sure where the Transfermarket values come from but presumably they’re guesstimates.

I agree wholeheartedly on retaining players longer as I just cannot see how you can progress if you’re selling your best after a couple of years as there will inevitably be a settling in period for new players and when they get up to speed…

Uralius
5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

They got held to 2 draws by a Red Star Belgrade team made up entirely of home grown talents except the striker who was a super fast converted winger. The game in Salzburg was a scoring draw so Red Star went through on goals difference. Interestingly Red Star lined up in a similar fashion to how we have been playing in previous years.

Uralius
5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

The Cha thanks for reading my post I know some people would be “To Long To Read” TTR. Also thanks for putting me onto wage comparisons. I will see if I can track down those stats.

Uralius
5 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

*TLTR

5 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

It’s on Tony McKelvie’s blog titled “Steven Gerrard: Expect the Unorthodox” from May 6, 2018.

If you can’t find it let me know and I’ll post the link and FTB.

5 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

I meant to add that they seem to lose in CL qualifiers to Swedish, Croatian, Serbian teams inferior to German, Italian, Spanish ones that they beat in the EL.

Dunno if its a psychological reason or they have upheaval and need a couple of months to stabilise each year.

The former is obviously very poor but I wish we would only take 2 months to stabilise!

Uralius
5 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

The Cha that really was a great article! Managers are only worth 10%! That’s interesting! Let’s just split Brendan’s wages and get the best tactical scout we can and an experienced leader!

5 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

I’d be more interested in replacing Pistol Pete with a young dynamic proactive CEO and a good, experienced DOF.

I’d reckon we’d be quids in afterwards and much more harmonious club “all singing from the same hymn-sheet”.

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