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Celtic Diary Friday October 21: Watergate Update,European Solution And More

For a moment there I thought the title was going to be longer than the actual Diary.

We’ll start with the story that apeared first in monday’s diary, which concerned the tale of Rangers and “rangers ” novel and refreshing way of dealing with that tiresome utility bill most of us get from the Water board. Or Water company as they now are.

A tale reached us on Sunday about a broken pipe in the Ibrox area, which when treated, led to the discovery of another pipe, which wasn’t on the water company’s own map, leading from a nearby church, thought to be the Ibrox parish church, leading to Ibrox stadium via the mega store. The Ibrox clubm when questioned by the water people, denied all knowledge of their apparent windfall, but still balked at the presentation of an estimated bill, calculated by some to be around £2m, and the demand for a surety against future supplies.

Otherwise, their supply was going to be cut off.

We left out a few details, hoping that readers or others would add to it, and perhaps even confirm it. We have had confirmation that other businesses in the same area also didn’t receive water bills around the same time, and are now being pursued for the debt.

So there does appear to be something in it, but not absolute confirmation from any of the parties said to be involved.

Yesterday, my attention was drawn to the John James blog, which is written by a Rangers supporter who isn’t exactly keen on the present regime, and is not shy of calling them out for what they really are. ( Thanks to PJ and The Clumpany, which incidentally is a great name for a band. )

His blog, which initially looked like a re-arranging of the words in Mondays “Where The Waters Run Free ” on this site, actually did include some of the stuff we left out.

Which means he either got the same information from the same source as we did, or he has another , independent source. We are aware that we were not the only ones to receive the information in Monday’s diary, but until John James mentioned it, we were the only ones to run with it, because we don’t really give a toss about what lawyers might say, as we are dead hard and smoke fags and drink beer and leer at ladies. And one of us used to drive a truck and ride a motorbike. While smoking fags , drinking beer and leering at ladies.

Mind you, smoking a fag on a motorbike makes your jacket roll up at the back, so you don’t look that mean. Just silly, in fact.

Anyhoo, the fact is, if John James has a different source than we do, then the story might be true. Which fucks up my credibility and I’ll have to invent something about a new signing or something to get it back.

If he doesn’t, then we are stuck at square one, but at least we’ve had a good laugh.

The bit about other businesses not getting a bill, and the owner being latterly pursued is true, though, and that leads me to think that other users in the area, either residential  or business may also have shared in the bonanza, so if that has happened to you, or someone you know, let us know.

We won’t mention who you are, and happily that means we don’t have to thank you either. You can reach us via direct message on twitter or contact us via the site.

Or just tell us in the replies. No-one uses their real name anyway.

 

On now to the fallout from the European campaign, a campaign which has sadly shown that although Celtic can raise their game now and again, we don;t really sem to have mastered the knack of scoring more goals than the other team, and keeping the ball off them for any lengthy period of time, except when they’re winning comfortably, and are reminding us that no matter how fantastic our support is, not one fan has ever raced on the park and scored a goal.

That guy against Milan nearly did, but Scott MacDonald got there just before him.

Celtic campaign, one draw, two defeats, three goals scored-and one of them was offside, another a deflection- with twelve conceded is not the form that is required to get something out of this group other than the proverbial wooden spoon.

We’ve changed the keeper, and have improc=ved in that respect, but the real issue, and most of the replies yesterday tend to support this theory, is in central midfiled, where Celtic simply are not strong or athletic enough.

Up front, our style allows us to be fairly easily nullified, and despite his undoubted ability, Moussa Demebele isn’t as much of a threat as we had hoped. Not on his own, at any rate. His laconic style doesn’t add much to the pressing game when its needed, and so he either needs help up there, or maybe a wee rest for the second half of the campaign.

The defence isn’t protected like it should be at this level. If they are caught out, then its usually a goal conceded, so they need a bit of help.

Scott Brown is athletic, and he’s strong, but he can’t do it on his own, and we need someone even stronger, even faster and perhaps even more commited.

The transfer window won;t open until these games are done, and we wouldn;t spend the money to get a big, tough strong athletic internationally honoured and a proven winner at that level  anyway.

But the solution to both of these conundrums, up front and in midfield, is already at Celtic Park.

In attack, only Barcelona have faced the main man, Leigh Griffiths, and he scored against them in the International champions cup, pouncing on a mistake by their defence.

Griffiths never stops running, he never gives up and he knows where the net is. In the air, on the ground, the guy is a goal machine, and nither of our next two opponents have had to deal with a fully fit and hungry Leigh Griffiths yet, and thats where we can possibly salvage something from this group. goals win games, and he’s the man to provide them.

Stopping goals, and stopping teams dominating you is also important, and the time has come to replace Nir Biton, as the European games require that brute strength, size  and athleticism that he doesn’t have, and we desperately need someone in there who will battle for every ball, someone who is strong in the air, strong in the tackle and very difficult to bully off the ball.

Someone who is experienced at the highest  level,both for club and country… someone who knows what is needed.

Oh, wait, we already have one. and one who has been a champion at international level at that…

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Sure, he’s made a mistake or two, in defence, but an occasional mistake in midfield wouldn’t be so bad, and his speed gives him that little bit longer to get back and rectify it, which he has done even when playing further back.

And he won’t give up either. He will run and fight until the final whistle has gone. And that kind of fire was missing against Barcelona and Borussia,

Oh hang on, our resident expert has spoken…

Monti October 21, 2016 , before he even saw this, · Edit · Reply →

Pish!

 

Is it ? Is it really ?

Okay, consider this, you are a midfielder , in possession of the ball, and you’ve just glided past Scott Brown, and the next thing you see is the grinning face of Efe Ambrose as he bears down on you at about fifty miles an hour….

I think its worth a shot, and we should practice this against that lot on sunday, a game which is a must win simply because, as i have said before, you can;t have a treble without the League Cup.

Gordon, Lustig, Tierney, Simunovic, Svaitchenko, Brown , Ambrose, Forrest, Rogic, Sinclair, Griffiths.

Keep that line up until we play in Germany, and then slightly alter it with Toure as sweeper and either one of Rogic , Forrest or sinclair benched.

Piece of piss this management lark.

 

For that game on Sunday, opponents “rangers ” will be without another of their star signings, Niko Kranjcar, who has got arthritis or something, which is not uncommon for a man of his age, and therefore “rangers ” will be a slightly stronger side than they were last time.

Captain Lee Wallace, recently praised by Chris McLaughlin as a man who thinks before he speaks, as opposed to most in the Scottish media who are told what to think before they speak,  and parodied by blogger The Clumpany in his hilarious recent revelations about Wallace’s private life..

the-clumpany-on-the-hidden-genius-that-is-lee-wallace

has told the “rangers 2 support, and those who still think its Rangers, that he wants revenge on Celtic this sunday..

Oh . that reminds me, when you see all the promotions for the latest instalment of the Walking Dead saga, they are referring to an american tv show , and not the Scottish League cup semi final.

Remember, the crucial difference is that in the tv show the zombies are the characters and actually take part in the events, in the League Cup they just sit and watch .

Back to Lee Wallace-I’m rambling again, sorry… he was told to tell the Record…starting woith the hibs game last year, where. like his team mates , he suffered a brutal beating both on and off the pitch, and only one part of that was recorded by the cameras. making prosecution a little tricky

“It was disappointing the last time we came here. It was the chance to get that first piece of major silverware in a number of years.

Could maybe lose the last five words of that sentence to make it a little more accurate…

“But we will use that final and that moment as motivation and we will be looking to get Rangers silverware in the cabinet. 

It would make more sense to sell the cabinet and pay the water bill.

“It’s a big part of why I came to this club and I’ve not managed to do it yet in six or seven years being here. It’s very much a big ambition of mine and I still have time to do that. 

Six or seven years ? Do you think the penny might drop soon that it isn;t going to happen. and if it does drop, will they pick it up and give it to the water company. Hang on, maybe they haven;t paid the bill becuase they don;t know whether they should pay the company, or the club ? Two doifferent things, you know, when it comes to paying bills and so on…

“We can get to a cup final if all goes to plan and we win on Sunday. The aim is to bring that true Rangers silverware back to our support who have been ever so loyal in the last number of years. As players, we are desperate to deliver that to the fans.” 

“True Rangers silverware ? “Oh for a comma, so we know what he is really saying here…is it True Rangers that he is hoping to convince us of, or true silverware, the type won by fair means when you pay all your taxes and stuff. Like everyone else has to.

Then he spoke about the 5-1 thrashing last time out…

 “It was definitely one of the worst experiences of my football life. It is all about learning for us. Going into this game, we are more excited and more positive. 

What ? Up there with realising that you’ve made an arse of your career by joining a third division club and wasting your time in the lower leagues ?

“The last time, we went into the Old Firm game on the back of two points dropped at Kilmarnock. 

Oh, thats why they were shite…never considered that. Thankfully, our last game wasn;t against Kilmarnock, so we should be alright..

“After the game it was hard to speak, having felt so emotional. 

Tell the truth…you couldn’t speak because you couldn;t find a policeman to tell who had just robbed you of your dignity  you in front of all your friends and family

“But there was a real intensity to it the last time and that might just gather as the week goes on. 

That at least is correct. for that lot, this is as big a game for them as they will have all season.

“We’re aware of that, we know the rivalry and I’ve said it 101 times – there is a real aggression, a real passion for this fixture. It’s one of the best games worldwide and we have to relish that. 

For them, yes, for us, its a semi final against a team of duffers. Who granted, may spring a shock, but we should be alright, as its only first division sides we struggle against in cup matches, as for them its a big day out. “rangers ” are in amongst the big boys now, and , oh wait, its still a big day out for them , I suppose. They’ll probably get t-shirts made again.

“We understand the responsibility to our fans and it’s about imposing our style, imposing our game plan and going and being the best we can be on the day. 

I think they’d better try and impose their style and game plan on their own players before trying it on the opposition…

“This time we have kept four clean sheets in the last five and are on the back of two good results. The momentum is there and even the game we didn’t win, I think it was clear to see we were back on the right track in terms of performance.”  

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“While I am captain I’ve always said we have four or five other skippers in the dressing room. They can pick players up and use their experiences to keep the dressing room positive. We are fortunate to have those types of characters. 

“It is easy to keep guys in a positive mindset. While it was a sore defeat to take, we were back a few days later using that pain and turning it into motivation.”  

No you weren’t. Your manager said it wasn’t a 5-1 defeat, it was only 3-1. That’s not turning it into motivation. Thats pretending it didn’t happen. Like you did with liquidation

The Record article, written and produced by Level 5 and passed to the paper for publication, finishes up with the claim..

But it’s a test the left-back will relish like greats of the past. 

The past four years ? Kind of limited list of “greats” in that period….

In other news, or at least in the Daily Mail, Celtic are making moves to replace John Park, and surprisingly, i’m not on the list, despite my handy hints outlined above to save the club a bob or two… ( you don’t know what “surprisingly 2 means, do you? Ed )

Huddersfield's Stuart Webber is frontrunner to become Celtic's new scouting chief

Huddersfield Town head of football operations Stuart Webber has emerged as a frontrunner to become Celtic’s new scouting chief.

Boss Brendan Rodgers is seeking a new talent spotter following the departure of John Park after nine years at the club.

Webber, 32, a former academy scout for Rangers’ head of recruitment Frank McParland at Liverpool, features high on the list of candidates.


The writer, Stephen McGowan, keeping on message there with a wee nod to the fact that Celtic are going for the monkey, as “rangers ” already got the organ grinder.. 

Not quite enough to win him

Knob Of The Week,

though. that requires a special talent, and a little more effort.

The police have released more pictures of those wanted for the riots after the Scottish cup final, which could spell trouble for a popular Edinburgh beat duo whose hit ” Sunshine on Leith ” was belted out by Hibernian fans before they apparently went out belting “rangers” players

Speaking of the police, they deserve praise for stopping the streets of Scotland being invaded by an extremist organisation which promotes bigotry and racism by emphasising its own superiority and right to be British, whatever that means.

 “We will not tolerate any group that incites violence or hatred in our communities across Scotland.

“We are working with a range of organisations across the country to intervene and where possible, prevent any event that promotes extremist or racist views.” 

 “There is no place for hatred of this kind in Scotland.” 

Unsurprisingly, they are not talking about Orange supremacy here, but that of the white kind. The Orange Order will continue to be allowed to dress as clowns and go around terrorising decent people. Which I think is breaking another new law that came in this week…

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The police cannot actually do anything about that, as all of their top brass are usually on holiday when they take place, and they get a chance to wear their other uniform for a day, and go around terrorising decent people.

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Its great for them that their fucking hobby is actually their job as well.

 

Anyway, its Friday, and that means its time for the afore mentioned

Knob of the Week,

This week has seen a lot of strong contenders, but you have to hand it to Lee Wallace, who must surely have inpsired his team mates and brought cheer to many tims with his burbling in the above article, and such a strong run to the final post cannot be ignored.

Lee Wallace, you are this weeks Etims

Knob of the Week. 

Though I must mention the editor if the Sun “newspaper, who made a thopuriughly honourable effort himself, when he attacked tv presenter Gary Lineker, who pointed out that a wee bit of humanity should be shown to migrants fleeing the countries that the US and Britain are taking it in turns to bomb.

Todays paper takes irony to a new level…

 

 

The editor,  is Tony Gallagher, and its fair to say he doesn’t look at himself in the mirror very often,

but then what self respecting editor of the Sun ever could ?

Caption competition now, and yesterday we had this…

NYC, 1945. Damage to the Empire State Building from a Plane Collision

won by this..

wulz October 20, 2016 at 1:20 pm · Edit · Reply →

Caption
Glasgow Council say £1brokes roof is safe
HH  

Today we have this.. from Binghamton, New York, in 1948.

comic book burning in Binghamton, NY (1948)

By the way, the comments and discussions yesterday in the reply section yesterday were , for the most part, of the highest standard of any to date. Thanks, it was a pleasure reading them, plenty of  thought provoking and entertaining insights.

Oh, wait, there’s always one….

Monti October 20, 2016 at 2:46 pm · Edit · Reply →

Pish!

 

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CarlJungleBhoy
7 years ago

Pish!

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  CarlJungleBhoy

🙂

Bob
7 years ago

If I remember correctly one of Effe’s first games for us was in midfield against Raith Rovers and he was immense so trying him in there wouldn’t be as bad as…….Monti (pish) and others might think.

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  Bob

Nah nah nah nah nah 🙂

The Charlie Saiz International
7 years ago
Reply to  Bob

His first few games were playing as a DMF as I remember it.
No shock really considering he arrived as one Bob.
Here’s his debut.
https://youtu.be/LeRchb7wxQ8

JIMBO
7 years ago

FYI – He is a good player, just lacks belief.

The Charlie Saiz International
7 years ago
Reply to  JIMBO

I know Jimbo he also has had to contend with the boo bhoys.

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  JIMBO

….positional sense, awareness, match intelligence, ball control, inability to match runners and does not command the trust of those around him.
He is fucking shite and costs the team dearly.
Should have fucked off 3 years ago!

Out!

The Charlie Saiz International
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Your entitled to your opinion Monti but over 200 games of top level Football would suggest it is you who are wrong.
He’s faced up some of the World best players and held his own at times a shite player get’s nowhere near these guys let alone catch them,block them,out fight them or in some cases get past them.
Sue he’s had and got some issues but ffs it’s the SPL not the Camp Nou every week?
He for the record has played in the Camp Nou and held his own.
So I say at least give him the chance to right a few wrongs and perhaps even change a few opinions?
Same as Jamesie,same as Gordon,same as Samaras and countless others written off previously.
6 months then decide.

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  Bob

Raith Rovers, hahaha.

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  Bob

Raith Rovers? Lol

Monti
7 years ago

PISH!

Delbhoy
7 years ago

This is why i was so angry on transfer deadline day when it passed without bringing in a top drawer midfielder , everyone said its ok del in brendan we trust we will do fine , i fucking knew how it would pan out , that we would be relying on the useless biton who would get ripped a new one in midfield. We had the chance to get the brazilian from juventus ,a top drawer player who everyone could see we needed but we let it pass and decided to go with the brown biton partnership. In the words of monti … pish!!

while everyone is putting forward ambrose for midfield , i have a better idea , its clear from the way jozo comes out from the back that the boy can play , i would bet he could make a good defensive mid sitting in front of the back four

john young
7 years ago
Reply to  Delbhoy

I think that would be worth a try delbhoy,but only as a holding mid-fielder he doesn,t have a lot of pace,Efe couldn,t be worse than what is on offer,play both in front of a back 3?Efe has the engine to get up and down and we don,t really have any of that type of player in the middle.We have to look for 3/4 athletic/pacey players.

mike
7 years ago

Pensioners Gazette,Latest Rankers News,team to face the Scottish Champions.

Fat Boab.

Granpa Broon, Hen Broon, Pa. Broon, P.C. Murdoch,

Joe Broon, Soapy Soutter, Desperate Dan,

Plug, OOR Willy, WEE Eck.

Frank McGaaaarvey
7 years ago
Reply to  mike

Mike,

Oor Wullie’s a Tim! I’ve got the t-shirt to prove it. Plug without doubt is definitely one of ra peepel and will be playing on Sunday.

mike
7 years ago

Cheers Frank, I should have kent that,the last time i went to the pineapple he was sitting behind me.
Stingy bassa never put anything into the collection plate tho.

Mike Annis
7 years ago

What a mixed diary. As for Efe, can you sell what you’re on, you’ll make a fortune.
When the CL draw was made we all felt we were on a hiding to nothing and so it’s proving. Even qualifying for the Diddy Euro cup was a far dreM.

Caption: Sunday’s Semi match referee receives his bonus early.

CarlJungleBhoy
7 years ago

Naw! Wait! I meant to say Water! …

On the subject of… The amounts being quoted for #WATPergate seem unrealistically high, but one thing that’s undisputable is that registered charities can apply for an exemption from charges with Scottish Water. Also undeniable is that Glasgow Southwest Foodbank run from Ibrox Parish Chuch in Clifford street – roughly half a mile from Ibrokes is a registered charity. So, at least one part of the original rumour does seem to – for want of a better phrase – hold some water.

mike
7 years ago

Celtic making the Champions League was all that i wished for in Europe,to make that revenue and to be able to strengthen the team,to help the club and the team improve,anything else was a bonus.
Its not about one year,it is a longer term project.I would rather Brendan took his time and got the RIGHT players in,no panic buys for me,sometimes you just have to be patient and trust the Manager,he kens best.

7 years ago
Reply to  mike

For Monti…IBWT

Greenjedi
7 years ago

Efe isn’t in the CL squad

Dziekanowski's nightclub child
7 years ago
Reply to  Ralph Malph

Thank god for that, Ralph has lost his mind

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  Ralph Malph

Nah nah nah nah nah 🙂

The Charlie Saiz International
7 years ago

Caption: Charles Greens legal team ready the basket of assets for court

Monti
7 years ago

That was really, really funny!

The Charlie Saiz International
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Morning sensible Monti.

Brendan
7 years ago

The SFA prepare to lift the carpet once more.

Dziekanowski's nightclub child
7 years ago

Caption: ‘rangers’ deal with the water bills

Monti
7 years ago

Caption:
The original Ogilvie shredder!

charlie
7 years ago

great article ralph and i agree about big efe gei the bhoy a gemme on sunday by the way somebody said to me this morning see if your gonny bump the water why no go the whole hog and bump the gas and leccy anaw in for a penny in for a pound and awe that ha ha

The Charlie Saiz International
7 years ago

Efe Ambrose has played as DM for both Club and country.
He did not arrive at CP a CB that was Lenny who decided he should become one much the same as he did with Mulgrew.
He has ALL the attributes to be a DMF.
He’s He’s big,strong in the tackle,decent in the air and can pass a ball with fairly consistent and decent accuracy.
His failings have been with getting caught in possession-turning inside being the main trait and getting caught out.
He has always looked fairly comfortable breaking from deep much like Van Dijk used to and seems happier in his work a bit further up the park to me.
As Ralph rightly points out he has great recovery pace when he does though in defence you obviously have less time to do so as the attacker is closer to the goal with only a keeper to beat.
Bitton struggles in the tackle-he’s next to hopeless in the tackle ending up carded most of the time.
Bitton also is too slow to recover a situation that he inevitably has caused due to his casual approach while in possession.
Efe is fit and evidently keen to get back to playing and his attitude by comparison to other more fancied players has been exemplary up till now.
He played his first few games at Celtic as a DMF in front of a back 4 he is also a RB by trade so when a Lustig or Toure carries the ball out he could in effect slot back into the back line meaning Brown can keep operating as the Holding Mid.
He’s not in the CL squad but I think it’s time we gave this guy a go again because he has played to a high standard at Celtic in the past regardless of his numerous blunders.
As of yet Bitton has failed to reach that level of play once in all his time at the Club.
I know some may disagree with this but I believe he is still committed to playing for Celtic and is still being paid to do so by the Club.
Bitton has had long enough now for me he’s not cutting it.

Monti
7 years ago

AMBROSE IS FUCKING SHITE!

The Charlie Saiz International
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

You don’t play 168 plus games for Celtic (37 in Europe)and 51 games for your Country if you are “shite” Monti.
He may have played shite in some of those games but I reckon the vast majority were of a decent enough standard.
Especially those 2 against Barca he was far from shite in those up against possibly the greatest Club side ever?
Although I understand you know better 😉

Monti
7 years ago

I do know better!

7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Pish!

corktim
7 years ago

u are on the drink yeah ambrose seriously

john young
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

What does that make the rest then monti.

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  john young

John Young,
Come again?

7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

IBWT

The Charlie Saiz International
7 years ago

Post gone missing Ralph

Cortes
7 years ago

Just happened to me.

jimmybee
7 years ago

Tea spluttered ffs Effe we only lost 2-0 get a grip.

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

Jimmybee,
Ralph is pulling my leg which is fine, worryingly, Charlie Saiz is fucking serious!

SteveNaive
7 years ago

I remember we got a doing from Lyon at home.applauded them off the park and said that’s the level we need to be at.Stiill saying it. Train better, organise better.everyone buys in and works for the collective good.Pass and move not stop, miscontrol, hit hopeful balls, walk, think, shout , miscontrol. Remember WGS shouting to Scott McDonald to “tidy up your game” that’s what we’ve got to do and keep having high standards.

jimmybee
7 years ago

We cannot go any more than what we are doing now.
Spend millions is not the path for us to go down.
Do we really need another sitting midfielder.
I have said it often 3 centre backs does away for the need for it. If you don’t have the players to play the formation change it.
Gordon
Eric Toure Jose
Rwb Lustig Lwb Tierney
Cdm Broony
Forrest Dembele Sinclair
Griff

The Charlie Saiz International
7 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

Brendan has played 3-4-3 and 3-5-2 previously at other Clubs I am a little confused as to why he hasn’t gone down that road with the players we have at his disposal?

Big Nutz
7 years ago

That Knob of the Week type humour is what got me into the etims way back into the good old days. Way back when it had the black background and star wars-esque intro. Been reading the site since. Good stuff, guys. Keep up the awesome work.

And to all you commentors, who I often think you talk out your Bovril stained backsides; thanks. You at the very least, make me think. Cheers.

Big Nutz.

jimmybee
7 years ago

You have gamboa rwb Izzy lwb OConnell Boyats.
Armstrong Bitton McGregor Rogic Henderson.
MacKay Stevens cifti Christie all able to come in for injuries.it would suit our players better.
But has never been done since MON

Shug the mug
7 years ago

Interesting call Ralph. I also think that Efe could do a job in midfield. The guy I did have hopes for though was Ajer but he seems to have dropped off the radar. I appreciate he isn’t in the CL squad either but can anyone update me on how he is progressing?

The Charlie Saiz International
7 years ago
Reply to  Shug the mug

He’s been fine in the Development squad though considering he Captained his last team last year that is no shock really?
I would hate to think our youth players are going to be cast aside and forgotten about as we build for the future.

Shug the mug
7 years ago

Thanks for that. I hope the lad makes it as he seems to have the physicality and skill combination that a DM needs.

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  Shug the mug

The talk is that young Ajer is going to be loaned out in January,i like everything i have seen and heard about him,no doubt in the future he will be a good first team player.

As for Efe,gies a break,he continually makes the wrong choice and ends up being sent of,cos he is pish.

The Charlie Saiz International
7 years ago
Reply to  mike

Would it suprise you to know Bitton has been booked as many times as Efe at Celtic?
20 yellows each Efe is 1 ahead on the reds.
He has played in over 160 games though tbf.

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  mike

Bitton follow follows Efe in the get rid of quick ASAP.I always thought he could be a player,but his past two season games especially in Europe has shown him up for what he is,another of big Petes duds.

Monti
7 years ago

I don’t get the negativity surrounding the Borussia result, everyone wants to win but we must be realistic in our hopes and ambitions when competing in the Champions league.
If it means we take a few humpings by being in the group stages, i’ll take that every season.
What Celtic must look to be doing is becoming group stage regulars, if we were in the group stage season after season i would be happy enough.
3, 4, 5 seasons of consistently qualifying would put us in a financial position to strengthen the first team.
So we take a few hits each year along the way in terms of defeats, i don’t overly concern myself with that.
Take the £25m cheque and build each year, that’ll do me, piece by piece, year by year of qualifying and we will eventually have a team that can compete better.
In the meantime we should be patient with the manager and players! HH

The Charlie Saiz International
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Canny find fault with that Monti that’s how I have been looking at Europe for a few years now.
If we want to be competitive in the big league we need to spend like we are in the big League.
The money must come in first though.

Monti
7 years ago

I wouldn’t spend big chasing it, just get it right with the big transfers, Forster, Van Dijk, Wanyama, Ledley, Matthews and Hooper, half a team there for very little outlay.
We see it still with the likes of Dembele.
The players are out there!

The Charlie Saiz International
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

They are just need the right man to find them now.
Germany would be a good place to start I think.

Brendan
7 years ago

Bloody hell – even I’m agreeing with Monti… Nurse!

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  Brendan

Brendan,
That’s because i understand the beautiful game, there are a few on here who shouldn’t be allowed out during daylight hours.
Ralph and Charlie Saiz for example 🙂

mike
7 years ago

Building a team requires money and patience,you canny do it all at once,the right players have to want to come and it depends on Transfer fee,length of contract and availability.So often in the past,we have brought in players who would be considered third choice,so the first team suffers.
The signs are that Brendan is now in charge of bringing in players to the first team,he usually goes with players who have played for him before.
It seems to me that by bringing in a new Chief scout who has been in the EPL or the Championship,he will identify those English players first and bring them to the Managers attention.

Big Nutz
7 years ago

I like the year on year argument but don’t agree with it, even though I want to.

Whether we like it or not, this is a club that sells players. I just can’t see the board changing their whole business model simply because a new manager has come in.

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  Big Nutz

Ah well,the Board a different matter but does what its telt by the great Desmondo and if he says,build a team,then thats what they will do,Brendan was HIS choice.
Like Monti i am not looking for winning the C.L. although we can but dream,no, just to qualify yearly will do me and to invest just a wee bit more should cover that,just my opinion.

mike
7 years ago

I was working in the garage late one night,
when my eyes beheld a terrible sight,
For a zombie from the floor began to rise,
and suddenly to me a great suprise,
He wore a sash an orange sash,
He wore a sash an orange sash.
He had a rash a plukey rash,
The zombies were having no fun,
they were buns current buns,
I took out my gun and began to fire,
if theirs one thing that raises my ire,
Its a bun its a current bun,soooo,
go home ya hun go home ya hun.

Big Nutz
7 years ago

Fair call, mike. I can’t disagree.

Comments like that give me hope.
Cheers.

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  Big Nutz

Guid Mahn,Be optimistic. with the emphisis on the tic. bit.
Always look on the bright side of life,dedoo dedoo dediddlydoo.

mike
7 years ago

Early one morning,just as the sun was rising,
I heard wee Monti singing in the valley below,
Oh dont deceive me,oh never leave me,
How could yoo abuse a pair wee soul like me.
WWWHHOOOOOOOO.HHHOOOOOOOOO.

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  mike

Mike,
I wouldn’t abuse a fly……you know that!

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

NEVER,NEVER, NEVER.

wulz
7 years ago

Efe in that role would probably get an early booking and then sent off later on in the game. On Sunday Sevco will get all the help they need from our FRIEND in black, and won’t miss any chance to put us down to 10. Efe has ability but his concentration and decision levels are terrible, and have continually cost us in the past. Was disappointed he didn’t move on when he had the chance during the transfer window, and would have wished him all the best.
Regards Sundays game if we keep our shape and heads and don’t get dragged down to their level, can see us winning comfortably.
HH

Paul1888
7 years ago

We can’t buy the team we want..

We have to grow it.

HH

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  Paul1888

I have a big greenhouse….

Johnbhoy
7 years ago

Ok we lost to BMG but Ambrose really!!!!…if we can’t win this league with showing this man the door then BR should get his jotters…

Johnbhoy
7 years ago

Sorry about typo that should say ‘without’ but then colons galore today…

mike
7 years ago

WGS spent almost his entire budget one year to bring Broony into the first team,to me that was a wise decision £4.5 mill. still a Scoddish record.
To day we have raised millions from The Champions Cup,new sponsorship deals and of course entry into the C.L.
We would not should not overspend on bringing in new players,bare in mind that we still have a multitude of not quite good enough players to of load,players who WILL command a fee.
I would never ever advocate overspending to put the club in peril,but even given that we have a load of great young talent,only some who will make the first team,then we have to buy players in at a mixed cost.
Entry to the C.L. should allow us to bring in the much needed midfielder we need.

Tommybhoy
7 years ago

Caption: (King’s warchest) Still lookin’, still hopin’.

mike
7 years ago

Caption, The Germains burnt the books,now The Rankers burn the accounts.

mike
7 years ago

or, Trump burns his Porn before the Election.

charlie
7 years ago
Reply to  mike

or trump burns any ballot paper he disnae like

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  charlie

He is right in that cos i hate the Dailly Retard and the SHUN.
every time i see them i light a fag,just in case.

Rebus67
7 years ago

I see the Efe debate is starting up again! We are all just a bunch of hamsters caught in in a wheel…round and round we go visiting the same topics as we cycle round!

In case I have insulted anyone, let me assure you that I am just as much a hamster as anyone. I have often wondered whether Efe’s best position was in midfield. I think we need two midfielders…one defensive and one creative. Is Efe the answer for the defensive position? I haven’t a clue. Perhaps Brendan has tried him there in practice. Who knows? What I do know is that it would be high risk to put him in that position on Sunday. We shall need 11 men on Sunday to combat their 12. Yes, the dice are being loaded, the red cards are being flexed for the big day.

Henderson was tried in the holding position vs Motherwell and was neither a failure nor a big success. Maybe BR is grooming him for that role.

After Wednesday I have become convinced that two, possibly three players will hold us back in Europe. The problem area is still the midfield. However, we must remember that we are playing the same players in there as last year. They are being better utilised for sure but they are not the answer to taking us up a level. I point the finger at Bitton and Rogic. The problems with Bitton have already been discussed…….please do not let him start on Sunday! Rogic, at the moment, is not the type of creative player that we need. He may become what we need but at ptesent he spends too much time running with the ball. Great to watch but usually ineffective as he dribbles into a cul de sac. We need a creative player that lets the ball do the work…..someone like Joe Allen. I know he has gone elsewhere but someone who plays the ball forward and over the top of defences.. The third player that we need to replace is the captain, Scott Brown. He has been and still is an asset to the club but time has moved on. We should not need to plsy him in every domestic game. We should have a replacement on hand to give him a break…. save him for the really important games.

It will take time to either find the correct players for these positions or to raise them internally. Indoubt we shall take the quick route by shelling out substantial sums in the short term. We are not afforded that luxury enjoyed by even mediocre EPL teams.

Still, I am not depressed at the current situation. Progress is happening.

Rebus

Half_Fool
7 years ago

Caption:

(Just prior to the Nimmo Smith commission) The lodge family day out uses some Ibrox papers from the 1990s to 2012; in a completely innocent act of outdoor heating. *cough*

Level 5 plant
7 years ago

Agree with replacing Bitton as guy isn’t good enough for Europe neither is Rogic Imo. Not able to play 90 minutes and floats in and out when he is playing. Replace these two with mcCarthy and one other and watch us improve dramatically. Coybig hit them for another 5

Monti
7 years ago
Reply to  Level 5 plant

I would accept an offer that matches the clubs valuation for Nir Bitton, but not until the end of the season.
We need him until seasons end.
Ambrose isn’t a serious option for this role.
James McCarthy is a player i like and he also has a passion for the club, would be happy to see him here.
Ogu from Hapoel Beer sheva looked decent.
It’s a big world out there full of hidden gems, cast the net far and wide.
Do we have scouts in Hungary, Romania and the Czech Republic?

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Do we have scouts for Hertz, Calum Paterson,Europes highest ever scoring r.b.

Cartvale88
7 years ago

The joy of Europe, is Zadoc the Priest, the atmosphere and of course the cash generated for our club.
I was a bit down leaving the stadium but looking back thoroughly a great night.
Our midfield of Bitton and Brown needs replacing, this will be done for next season so again it is onwards and upwards.
Anyways we have Sunday and should be far to strong
Caption ‘ in times of yore the yokels feed the EBT monster’

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  Cartvale88

We MUST access the C.L. for the cash it generates,in them we usually meet teams from a much stronger Leagues,who can afford huge prices for players,it is NOT a disgrace to be beaten by these higher quality teams,being based where we are.
So access the C.L. by spending not a huge sum but by picking up better quality players,who will help get us get in to the C.L.
Brendans Management nous has helped us achieve that this year,hopefully next year we will be better prepared.

Delbhoy
7 years ago

John young i wouldnt say jozo lacks pace ,hes the quickest defender we have mate

mike
7 years ago

Oh Hampden in the sun,Celtic 7 Rankers 1.
thats the game that excites me most,
thats the reason for this post,
Oh Hampden in the sun, Celtic 7 Rankers 1.
Brendans Celtic are the best,
better by far than the rest,
They will run all over de huns,
make them vomit oot their bums,
Oh Hampden in the sun, Celtic 7 Rankers 1.
Catchy toon eh?

charlie
7 years ago
Reply to  mike
charlie
7 years ago
Reply to  mike

vomit oot their bums ha ha can a steal that wan tae use on a zombie of my aquaintence mike

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  charlie

No problemo charlie and ta fur ra tune.

Rudebhoy
7 years ago

If Efe is ever to play for us again it definitely shouldn’t be against the huns on Sunday. Too dangerous. I’d go for the same team as the other night.

The Charlie Saiz International
7 years ago

I would make a couple of changes and go with a more attack minded shape.
3-4-3

…………GORDON
.
…SIMUNOVIC TOURE SVIATCHENKO
.
GAMBOA BROWN ARMSTRONG IZAGUIRRE
.
…ROBERTS GRIFFITHS SINCLAIR

charlie
7 years ago

tcsi you will regret teaching me how to do them links ha ha or maybe not

The Charlie Saiz International
7 years ago
Reply to  charlie

Fire in though if you put too many up on the one thread it tends to slow the site doon bud 😉

charlie
7 years ago
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charlie
7 years ago

fuckin hell have yees awe fucked off and the parties only started ha ha ha ha

jimmybee
7 years ago

Final thoughts from me on Wednesday.
Boroussia done their homework,the players followed the instructions of the manager to the letter, two mistakes by us by a player of genuine class was the difference.
Yes we got outplayed but we were hanging in,and too be honest I thought we looked okay yes they had chances,but we kept them out.
The midfield is where our battle is being lost. Brown and Bitton got outplayed. The defence was under pressure due to this,and it is the area where we gave not filled since Wanyama went.
Armstrong McGregor Bitton Johansen have failed in that sought after position.
It maybe time to actually change tactics. We don’t have the midfielder then provide cover with the extra centre back.
Play 3 at the back,and although Rogic is great,I think we need Dembele and Griff in the team.
I would give Griff the freedom to move around and play Dembele as the lone striker.
So for me.
Gordon.
Eric Toure Jose
Rwb Lustig LWB Tierney.
Brown centre def midfielder.
Forrest Griff Sinclair.
Dembele.
That’s how I would line up against sevco surprise them as they will be expecting the same set up as they did at Celtic park.
Banging tunes DJ Charlie.
HH

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