{"id":5198,"date":"2014-06-11T14:11:27","date_gmt":"2014-06-11T13:11:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/etims.net\/?p=5198"},"modified":"2014-06-11T14:17:30","modified_gmt":"2014-06-11T13:17:30","slug":"celtic-politics-danger","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/etims.net\/?p=5198","title":{"rendered":"Celtic + Politics = Danger!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p dir=\"ltr\">Here at Etims, we have never had any issue with someone saying their piece, even if the content could upset a group or an individual. We offer Right to Reply and comments for any feedback. That\u2019s been suffice but recently it seems we have overstepped the mark according to quite a few requests to \u201cGive it up!\u201d whenever any references to the Scottish Independence referendum appear on the site, either in articles, podcasts, social media, \u00a0gags or Diary references.<\/p>\n<p>Now we admit the majority of Etims support a YES vote and accept that the vast majority of any Scottish Independence Referendum references will be YES related, we make no bones about it. If you agree well that\u2019s nice, if you don\u2019t, that\u2019s up to you. We aren\u2019t going to fall out about it. The problem is however, when folk start the \u201cI thought this was a Football site?\u201d and react angrily whenever politics gets a mention, (or it seems, politics on the one certain subject) which kinda ticks us off.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">Lets just ask the question: Celtic and Politics&#8230;.related?<\/p>\n<ul dir=\"ltr\">\n<li>\n<div>Wasn\u2019t the club formed as a result of poverty in Glasgows East End and isn\u2019t Poverty a direct cause of Politics? The Foodbank collections at Celtic Park 2013-14 Season, aren\u2019t they the results of Politics?<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li><\/li>\n<li>\n<div>Was the 1952 Tricolor (presented to the club by Eamon De Valera no less)\u00a0dispute Political or just a wee daft flag thing?<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li><\/li>\n<li>\n<div>The banning of alcohol at Scottish Football Grounds: Isn\u2019t that Political? We could ask Ruth Davidson leader of the Scottish Conservatives given she has publically said the ban should be re-assessed.<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li><\/li>\n<li>\n<div>Celtic fans in an open display of abuse at Margaret Thatcher: Do we say \u2018<i>Down with that sort of thing<\/i>\u2019 now?<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li><\/li>\n<li>\n<div>Fergus McCann overthrowing the Old Board: Was that Political or just \u201cCompany stuff\u201d<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li><\/li>\n<li>\n<div>The SNP introducing The Offensive Behaviour Bill: undoubtedly Political and condemned openly and often on this site without any complaint&#8230; Which then prompts the question &#8216;Why is that deemed acceptable Politics to cover except when it is also discussing various local politicians in Celtic friendly heartlands appealing for votes by saying they will fight to repeal the Bill, but just don\u2019t mention when the same Politicians\u00a0then refuse to vote against the Bedroom Tax which affects many of same Celtic fans in those heartlands?<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li><\/li>\n<li>\n<div>FoCUS and the harassment of the Green Brigade:\u00a0 Isn\u2019t that Political if main reason behind it is for more Police power and to strengthen Police budget claims ?<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li><\/li>\n<li>\n<div>The Costs of attending Celtic&#8217;s games: Arent the reasons behind any increases basically due to Politics?<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li><\/li>\n<li>\n<div>The calls for no Zero Hour Contracts and a Living Wage Implementation, duly rejected at a Celtic Park AGM: \u00a0Does it get any more Political than that?<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li><\/li>\n<li>\n<div>The constant rejigging of kick-off times to accommodate Broadcasters, isn\u2019t that Political with the various Competition, Licensing, Economics and Market Forces factors?<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li><\/li>\n<li>\n<div>Protest songs sung at Celtic Park, and displays of solidarity covering events elsewhere: Have they been welcome political reactions or \u201cjust a nuisance\u201d in today\u2019s eyes?<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li><\/li>\n<li>\n<div>Celtic hosting the Commonwealth Games Opening Ceremony ( and having to play CL Qualifier games at Murrayfield &#8211; Ed!) : A sporting occasion in tribute and opened by The Queen and hosting Government officials from around the Globe: Is that Political, Empirical, both or none of the above?<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">Consider Celtic Board members past and present :<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><strong>Lord Livington of Parkhead<\/strong>: \u00a0Non executive Director of Celtic and Minister of State (Trade and Investment and also in the Foreign and Commonwealth Office) in Her Majestys Government. A Tory Lord who took his seat name after the poor area in which Celtic Park resides no less<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><strong>Former Chairman Lord Reid of Cardowan<\/strong>: a former Northern Ireland Minister and Home Secretary amongst his various high profile appointments, and according to Private Eye, a man appointed to the Celtic Board, who also just happened to have connections with Security Companies when major shareholder Dermot Desmond had interest in Airport scanner contracts.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><strong>The Right Honorable Brian Wilson:\u00a0<\/strong> Independent Non-Executive Director, writer of the Official Celtic FC centenary history and 125 Years official History and a former Labour Minister and now an official Trade Ambassador for the UK Government.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">Peter Lawwell and Eric Riley sitting on SFPA Boards : Politics or just there for the Mount Florida\u00a0 biscuit selection?<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">The whole question of Sport and Politics and more specifically Celtic and Politics has been dealt with in more depth elsewhere by much better men than I, but I think it\u2019s fair to say it\u2019s almost impossible to separate Celtic and Politics. It is also incorrect to pick and choose Political links where personally acceptable as ultimately, Politics is involved everywhere within Celtic and its fan base. Ultimately this involvement will include the Scottish independence referendum and Etims aren\u2019t going to ignore it.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">I would suggest all fans embrace and get involved in any discussions rather than shout for them to end. Even if it is just a difference of opinion on Twitter, it is still hearty debate between Celtic fans and that\u2019s no bad thing. Our club and its fan base are famous for refusing to blindly accept what they are told and Celts have never been backward in coming forward. Silence is not our weapon of choice.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">If you don\u2019t like Political references, then complain all you like, we wouldn&#8217;t dream of stopping you, but one way or another, there\u2019s no avoiding them when you support Glasgow Celtic.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Here at Etims, we have never had any issue with someone saying their piece, even if the content could upset a group or an individual.&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":5199,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/etims.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/angry-mob.jpg","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2J7If-1lQ","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/etims.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5198"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/etims.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/etims.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/etims.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/etims.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=5198"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/etims.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5198\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5201,"href":"https:\/\/etims.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5198\/revisions\/5201"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/etims.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/5199"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/etims.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=5198"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/etims.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=5198"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/etims.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=5198"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}