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Celtic Diary Wednesday August 24: Hurrah for The Blackshirts!

As soon as it was revealed that Celtic would wear the black away kit, and not the hoops, we knew that we were in trouble.

And so it proved to be, as Celtic neither looked like Celtic or played like Celtic , yet decided to put the support through the wringer, which i suppose is exactly like Celtic.

With Hapoel needing three clear goals to continue in the champions League, you would have thought that changing anything that might rock the recent run of form would be far , far away from the mind of the manager, but not only did someone suggest the away kit, someone else put the idea of dropping Eoghan O’connell, who had formed a fairly reliable partnership with Kolo Toure, and opting to play Saidy Janko as a right back.

Hapoel had no choice but to go for it, and backed by a hostile and enthusuiastic crowd, they, like Celtic, were a completely different team from the one the Celts faced in Glasgow.

The roof threatened to cave in early on when Saidy Janko tripped a forward to concede a penalty, but Craig Gordon stood tall, or forgot to move, and the ball bounced off him and away into the desert night. The big keeper was too surprised to acknowledge what may well yet be the save of the season, and desite this statement that he was back to his best, the defence didn’t seem convinced.

So much so that Keiran Tierney managed to get in his way when the Israeli’s took the lead with a header from substitute Shavar, after Scott Brown was found wanting at a corner.

Celtic managed to get to half time without any further damage, but within a couple of minutes of the restart, it was Saidy Janko’s turn to get in the keepers way, and the resultant confusion allowed Hapoel to tap themselves into a two goal lead, and the momentum was all with them.

If at this point you heard a piercing scream, don;t worry. It was me.

However, for the next three quarters of an hour, Celtic somehow hang on. For that we have to thank the defenders, who played out of their skins, and Craig Gordon, who handled the pressure very well, when a lesser man would have crumbled.

The relief at full time was palpable, and Celtic had done it. Well, Hapoel had failed to do it would be a better way of desrcibing it, but it didn’t matter, and it was genuinely one of those occasions when we will, in the future, look back and laugh.

It would be unfair to single out any particular players for criticism, but it was clearly too much of an occasion for some.

Saidy Janko had a nightmare, but at least he never hid. Which was a shame, as at times he was easily the best attacking threat for Hapoel, but he is still only a kid, and perhaps he’s just not ready for this type of game yet.

Brendan Rodgers, as expected, ( by me ) decided to drop Tom Rogic from the line up, instead opting for the more industrious Calum MacGregor, and as the Aussie Ardiles has become a bit of a fans favourite, the support decided that any problems with the midfield were all down to the Scot, whereas in fact, we saw hopefully the conclusive example that Scott Brown and nir biton cannot -or will not-play together at this level.

But, football is a results business, and the result of last nights game is that Celtic are in the champions League, as illustrated here by Lady Kerry CSC on twitter…

In fact, should Red Bull, Ajax and Villareal exit the competition, Celtic will move into Pot 3, which might make it a little easier to be involved in Europe after christmas, which would be a bonus.

But if that doesn’t come to pass, I’m sure we can live with it.

A relieved Brendan Rodgers spoke after the game.

Not because we were through, but because Craig Gordon had kept his cool and not lamped the BT interviewer who reminded him that his place in the team was under threat, and drew a glare and a slight clenching of the fist from the keeper. Scott Brown was heard to whisper

“Leave it big man, he’s at it ”

Rodgers, glad that it wasn;t the police who were interviewing him, even if they would have probably been less hostile, said;

 “I feel brilliant. It was probably the longest 90 minutes I’ve faced as a coach.

“From past experiences the players have had, sometimes you never know how it can map out in the game.

“I felt Be’er Sheva were outstanding. They had to force the game of course as they had nothing to lose but they played very well.

“I have to congratulate my players. All the work we have been doing over the course of pre-season has been around that mentality and quality of our game.  

“But we know we can’t always play well. A lot of the games we have played well but tonight was going to be purely about resilience and persistence.

“It was an amazing effort by the players on the back of everything they have been through before, so a huge applause to them and I’m delighted they have got their rewards after a really long pre-season.

“I’m immensely proud, I’m so proud for the football club, firstly for Dermot, Peter and the board – it’s great for them as they stuck out their neck in the summer. 

“The club has a really positive feel to it at the moment. This was always hopefully going to keep that forward momentum going and this was a huge step for us.

“I’m delighted for the players, for the work they have put in and the mentality and honesty they have shown, and they have got their rewards after a long pre-season.

“I’m delighted for my coaching staff and the team of people around us. They have had to work very hard, with not many days off, working and finding ways in which to improve the team in a short space of time.

“And obviously there are the supporters. It’s an incredible moment for them. They  are going to back amongst Europe’s eilte – and it’s where Celtic belongs.”  

There was so much riding on this qualification and it would be typical Celtic, from watching them over many years, that there would be be a 92nd goal and everyone is on their knees.

“But it has really happened. We have qualified. It’s great for everyone and great for the nation, for Scotland it’s huge.”

One newspaper, however, may well have taken something from those words that simply isn’t there…

Rodgers Euro Fury, trumpets the Herald, at once explaining why their circulation is similar to that of a man smoking eighty a day, and announcing to Celtic that none of their staff want a seat on the chartered plane for the upcoming away games.

Mind you, Rodgers Euro fury is nothing compared to Lennons Euro Furry…

Told you before, any excuse…

Curiously, Joey Barton, a man who has achieved the square root of fuck all in the game, apart from a two year contract at “rangers ” and hero status amongst the gullibillies, took to twitter to try to keep himself in the public eye, like he used to keep lit cigars in trainee’s eyes.

Watching that Champions League Qualifier and thinking…

followed by a link to something titled Lucky Bastard, from piss poor gangster flick “Snatch “, which ironically is also a slang term for genitalia, similar to other words used to describe Barton.

One or two “rangers ” supporters pointed out that they would prefer it if he did his talking on the pitch, with his feet, and presumably not on twitter, with his arse.

We wondered if the gauntlet being thrown down by the Englishman was worrying Celtic captain Scott Brown, but it doesn’t appear to be.

 

However, as the diary likes to think it gives credit and praise where both are due, without fear or favour, here’s a wee question for you…

Whats the story behind this ?

 

Over to Graeme Spiers…

My two wee lads were distraught tonight at missing 2nd half due to bedtime…I’ve slipped this under their pillows. 

And the much maligned Gerry McCulloch, who does his best to make Derek Johnstone, Hugh Keevins and other vaccuums appear coherent on Radio Clydes Superscoreboard phone in show deserves a mention as well, after he commented on the Herald headline shown above..

I’m told this is the genuine Herald front page. “Fury?” Jeezy peeps!! 

Though I have to wonder, does he use such filthy language on air ? ( Jeezy Peeps, not “Herald,” that is )

anyway, qualification means money for Celtic.

And more money for the other teams in the top division, with each set to bank around £200,000 with their own little windfall, which means a lot to some clubs operating on the breadline, indeed prompting one chairman to announce the effect it will have on his club;

Yesterdays caption competition,

Brown and Celtic boss Brendan Rodgers (left) are eyeing the Champions League group stage

the winner has a little more poignancy after the BT interviews last night, a shame as up until then their coverage had been excellent…

Thewildgoose August 23, 2016 at 9:59 am · Edit · Reply →

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Broony:” Here gaffer whit wan a they hacks asked you questions about that fud Barton”?

St Brendan: ” Leave it Broony, he’s just a bitter Hun”.  

Today, can you explain this ?

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Mike Annis
7 years ago

Great result but hard watching. However, we were kicked all over the place on Saturday afternoon, flown through a few time zones, found ourselves in an armed hostile state then a very agpngry crowd. May explain the performance or maybe it’s just that Janko’s shite.

Caption comp. Ibrox home dressing room have showers upgraded.

D’Fhinnein Mick
7 years ago

Dave King pyoooor ragin’

Seems we’ve found his £30m warchest.

ewanbhoy
7 years ago

sore head this morning so thank god we got through last night, its actually a good thing that we played so poor last night as its shows Brendan and our board that the team still needs more quality but i am not going be negative today as i am over the moon that we are in the CHAMPIONS LEAGUE!!!!

jrw
7 years ago

So often in the past we’ve been in the same place as Happoel – played well and lost out through some heart breaking ill luck or cheating referee. But the main thing last night was to get through – win ugly is fine by me but I and no doubt countless other Tims would much prefer not to be dragged through the emotional wringer. Last night was one of the worst of its kind in recent years. This success lifts a big shadow (which was no doubt affecting the players last night) and should make the rest of the season that little bit easier and more enjoyable – at least no Thursday/Sunday cycle of games, which makes my trips back to Glasgow easier and cheaper!

7 years ago
Reply to  jrw

jrw,
You are right m8, i felt my heart pounding the more the game went on.
When the fourth mason, i mean official added 4 mins, i considered taking the dog out for a walk…..

7 years ago

Slight hangover this morning but like ” rangers ” after being knocked back for a CVA, it’s disappearing quickly.
I had been very nervous pre game yesterday and i actually expected us to be shite,i was right to be worried as we weren’t at the races at all.
I can’t be fucked going into detail just now because i am deeply deeply happy that we made it.
Watching that last night and being a bag of nerves can’t be good for you like 🙂

Well done Brendan and the Bhoys!!

The real anton rogan
7 years ago

Do Sevco actually get the £200k?

I am sure its only paid to teams who were in the premier league last season.

Fuckin hope so

7 years ago

Seems its last years SPL teams so will be Arabs…which is apt!

7 years ago
Reply to  Desimond

Arabs fan on Twitter saying they have had it confirmed United will get heehaw

I hope any Sevco money goes via sfa who deduct fines accordingly

Rudebhoy
7 years ago

I believe the huns are due fuck all. Chortle chortle

Dziekanowski's nightclub child
7 years ago

Caption: Herald hacks new poisonous bile protection

7 years ago

Sevco5088/club 12/the ranger get fuck all money for us qualifying….as it was the SPFL teams from last season that get the £2K windfall …so it’s Dundee Utd who cash in not the forces of darkness.

BJF
7 years ago

“Didn’t look like Celtic, didn’t play like Celtic.” Says it all but outcomes are everything, best Celtic men last night were WGS :”Did you see that look?” and Chris Sutton.As JRW said we have been where they are and we did the job at Celtic Park as we will in the Group stages. 3 at the back works for us away from home, Janko not a full back but his pace with experience will be an asset.
Well done Craig Gordon for the penalty the cross balls and not lamping Darren for his disrespectful comment. BR coverage good though.A good night eventually. Thanks to the NHS staff forcrwsussitating me .

BJF
7 years ago

BT coverage, but well done BR too!

mike
7 years ago

Disco Disco Duck, Celtics in the C.L.
but was it doon to luck,
Brendan called the tune,
Some players may have let him doon,
Who cares says the Tic. support,
We!re all oor the fuckin moon.

Disco Disco Duck,Celtics in the C.L.
and we are all ecstatic,
we played on many pitches and some were even plastic,
But we are in it noo,
and we can make a racket,
So come on you bhuoys in green,
We ken we!ll make a packet.
COYBIG.

CarlJungleBhoy
7 years ago

BTW : “should Red Bull, Ajax and Villareal exit the competition, Celtic will move into Pot 3” ….

Villareal already lost 3-1 on aggregate to Monaco last night.✓

Ajax play away Rostov after drawing 1-1 at home. Come on you Russian.. erm.. bears 🙂

Red Bull are at home to Dynamo Zagreb after drawing 1-1 away, so that looks least likely. Then again, Zagreb won both of their previous qualifying away matches, so who knows.

I’m just happy/relieved to be in the CL again and which pot we’re in might not make it any easier. In fact, imagine the buzz if we got Real, Dortmund & Spurs – Some mega CL nights in store either way

ibhoy
7 years ago
Reply to  CarlJungleBhoy

Sorry to burst any bubbles, but if Ajax and Red Bull both go out then Celtic will move to the top of Pot 4.

To move up to Pot 3 we need Borussia Monchengladbach to go out as well, and they are 3-1 up at home to Young Boys so not much chance.

At least in Pot 4 we can’t get Legia Warsaw.

CarlJungleBhoy
7 years ago
Reply to  ibhoy

Yeah. You’re right. Borusssia SpellingMistake would also have to fail. 🙂

ibhoy
7 years ago
Reply to  CarlJungleBhoy

Borussia Copy&Paste you mean

CarllJungleBhoy
7 years ago
Reply to  ibhoy

Shame that Borussia Cutnpaste’s co-efficient was just a wee bit higher than ours or, with Ajax & Red Bull both out, we would have been in Pot 3. But, what the hell do we care… eh

Iljas Baker
7 years ago

It seems we only play near our best when everything is comfortable. That’s now 3 away games in the CL under BR against not really top opposition and we’ve had 2 losses and a draw. What happened to hitting them on the counter last night?

Great save for the penalty but think Gordon at least partly culpable for the goals or at least from what I saw he could have done better. I expect DDV to make an appearance soon and then in the group stages he might feature more.
Pass completion rate 53% – that’s woeful by any standards. Why does everything nosedive in away games? Is it the traveling, the microclimate, players’ biorhythms, the team selection or the opposition upping their game as they are playing at home and their fans’ hostility to us, perhaps all of these?

I think a major factor is that because we play in Scotland we get a skewed sense of our ability as the opposition is so poor (look at performance of Sottish teams in Europe so far) and I’m sure the players and perhaps even the manager get a skewed view of where they are at.

I don’t think we can buy our way out of this, we need the tactics to do better away. Perhaps last night came too early for BR’s counterattacking football in Europe given the team are a relatively new unit and some of the players are still being bedded in. A few more players, more work on finding a way to play in away games might save our embarrassment.

john young
7 years ago
Reply to  Iljas Baker

iljas baker playing in Europe needs a different style from what you are used to,look at England in the Euro nations,they had players that were valued at 50mil+ result absolute crap,it is very difficult to switch disciplines,you are playing against players that are at least the equal of you technically and in the main stronger/faster than you,we have too many players that are just not fitted for a European campaign,we all know them,don,t be too hard on Janko he was swamped but kept to the task.

Alan lilley
7 years ago

Caption. The Sevco are coming

wulz
7 years ago

It’s a shame that some fans aren’t happy with BR despite qualifying for the champions league, won both games in the league (away ) and in the next round of the league cup, and he’s only just in the door. A think he’s the only Celtic manager to qualify for the champions league in his first attempt, with the club. Anyway I’m delighted
HH

Charlie Saiz
7 years ago
Reply to  wulz

The fact he has been backed by the Board in the summer has had a large hand in that Wulz.
Toure Sinclair and Dembele are a marked improvement in ability.

bigbananafeet
7 years ago

The manager of Hapoel put up on the wall a picture of the Celtic fans and the Palestinian flags from last week. He told them to have a good look. “That’s what they think of us. They tried to intimidate us in Glasgow. We’ll go for them from start to finish and we will score three goals.”
It bloody nearly worked, and that is the reason you have to pick and choose the time to stand up and fight. Don’t give your opponent any advantage before a big game.

GREENDAY
7 years ago
Reply to  bigbananafeet

Sorry to disagree banana feet but that’s fuckin bollocks. If things like that were so clear cut we’d beat the monkeys 20-0 everytime we play them. We’ll done to all involved in what’s shaping up to be a momentous season.
I love the smell of optimism in the morning.

JIMBO
7 years ago

FFS … for once it would be nice to get an easy ride, tastes alot sweeter when you sweat a little..

Got up this morning to a hole in the carpet and a pile of finger nails 🙂

COYBIG

Tam The Tim
7 years ago

Spent the last ten minutes up the stairs, couldn’t handle it any longer. Now that we’re through I’m sure Brendan will take stock and make sure we can at least compete away from home. He will be delighted we have done it considering how poor we were last season. Onwards and upwards.
HH

7 years ago

Please god let this be the last we see of the brown biton partnership , two years of utter pish with these two at the helm, biton gets injured and brown starts to look a diffrent player. Biton returns and we are back to being pish. Coinsidence hmmm maybe no….

agree with ralph dropping oconnel was daft in the extreme , playing janko was fucking nuts we seriously need a new right back.

never mind tho we are in the draw get in! , why is this cretin barton not getting hauled up for continually making insulting remarks about another club on twitter and other media outlets ? If it was neil lennon back in the day would the hacks find it so ammusing

Jocsoc
7 years ago

They say every manager has a blind spot.Brendan’ s must be Saidy Janko.Johann Mjalby stated that he couldn’t defend and had no positional awareness. In addition,the number of tackles he missed put us under immense pressure and when he ventured up the pitch losing the ball in the process, he just ambled back to where he thought he should be. He was booked when he gave away the penalty.I would have thought he would be hooked at half-time with Lustig moving to fullback and Sviatchenko or O’Connell moving in to the centre. But no, there he was to the bitter end, running into Craig Gordon, forcing him to drop the ball and giving Hapoel an easy tap-in. He is responsible for myriad heart attacks all over the Celtic world. I hope this will be a lesson learned. I’m running out of beta blockers.

Charlie Saiz
7 years ago
Reply to  Jocsoc

Rodgers is an advocate of playing 3 at the back and pushing 2 WB’s up why he never started with that when he had the personnel to do so I find a bit confusing because before a ball was even kicked last night it was obvious they would hit us down the flanks?
It took him nearly 70 minutes to make that change AND he left the main problem in defence as you rightly point out bud?
That’s a worry for me.
Janko is not European level that much is obvious we need to invest in a quality RWB who can cut it at this level as we cannot rely on Lustig to get up and down the park with his previous for breaking down?
Ralston Wardrop are the future but we need this sorted ASAP and I trust he will be in at Lawwells Office today DEMANDING we get this sorted.
Left side we are sorted not so on the right we have a weakness that teams will plunder if we don’t.

7 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

I think you are just confused….generally!

Charlie Saiz
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

So confused I managed to pick the right setup for this tie before Brendan stumbled onto it after 70 minutes of shambolic torture.

7 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Charlie saiz,
You sound deflated to me, you seemed to be more upbeat the worse things got under your Norwegian hero.
I would go as far as to say you were wanting Celtic to fail to qualify.

Charlie Saiz
7 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

I’m happy enough we qualified.
After all that is where the big money and glamour is.
The manner in which we played last night was cery poor.
It nearly cost us that money and glamour.
If I’m coming across as being unhappy that’s not the case.
Deila is gone he came he put 3 trophies in the cabinet and sustained the push for 10 in a row.
Good luck to him whatever he does.
My concern now lies only with the new man.
The man I wanted when others (including yersel) were wanting Moyes Keane or whoever?
I like Brendan,I like the way he talks about the game.
He sets his sides up the way I prefer.
What is there not to like?
Nothing.
However he’s not beyond making errors (we all do).
How he deals with these errors will define how successful a Celtic Manager he will be.
We play anything like we did away to Red Imps or Apoel in the Champions League we will get destroyed.
I don’t want that to happen?
So I voice my concerns.
You don’t like that or agree with that?
Who cares.
xx

Bob
7 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Good to have you back charlie saiz.

Charlie Saiz
7 years ago
Reply to  Bob

Cheers Bob hows the wife 😉

bgbhoy
7 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

rodgers got it correct last night, the objective was met, the tie was won and he has only been in the door 96 days

Charlie Saiz
7 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

He did in the end Bg.
My point was it took him nearly 70 minutes to get the right shape and setup?
That should be a concern.

highseastim
7 years ago

Watched the game in the Kirkie bar in New Elgin last night with a bar full of very nervous fellow tims. The general consensus was that we’ll not play a team of that quality, domestically the whole season. Gordon at fault for second goal, but great penalty save and some good saves after the second goal, but the most worrying part was both full backs being consistently ripped to shreds and the centre backs looking as if they had never met before. Add on McGregor and Bitton anonymous and you see how we struggled, but hey ho we made it and roll on some new teams in the draw and not the usual Barca, etc.

7 years ago

We always thought that Janko didn’t defend well but his ball control and passing were also shocking. Monti, you may well have a new Efe to reckon with.
But…I am chuffed for the bhoys,for Brendan and above all, for us, the supporters. It was a hostile ground with crap homer referees so we maybe just got the luck we deserved which so often went against us in the past.
Well done Bhoys.
Hell, was I a nervous wreck last night though!

7 years ago

janko looked like he was on angel dust. wtf the second goal

John McCloy in tasmania
7 years ago

Congratulations to the bhoys this morning(oz a.m)but I’ve never had a more nerve wracking time watching a game since…since Monti told me to fuck off and not a palie flag in sight.slightly off topic but what good are these so called officials behind the goals for.hapoel,s first corner should have come from tierney being the last touch. the ass. ref was right there looking at it and ignored it.i,m glad he did but aren,t they supposed to be observing and pointing out infringements to the ref.its just a well paid junket for them.HH

7 years ago

John,
I apologise for saying that m8!

mike
7 years ago

John, you are correct about the officialls,i had reservations knowing they would be Dutch,they didny let me down,i thought that they and especially the ref. was shocking,his penalty decision was wrong,he got so much wrong i said to my son that he was pish and a homer.
The ref. in the home tye was Slovenion i think but he was 10 times better,we were lucky to escape without serious injury.

7 years ago

i suggest some basic training on how to play the ball out of defence . ultimately you need at least one (rogic) who can hold the ball up. the opportunities we had came from his boot “more industrious mcgregor”. out of his fuclking depth and nearly cost us the game . play your best 11. rogic one of the first picked

Bob Cobb
7 years ago

Caption: Mr Lawell? I’m here to clean out your underpants following your wee “accident” when the second goal went in.

Mick
7 years ago

Caption : Fumigation team ready for Ibrox task.

Hail Hail !

Wisnae me
7 years ago

Looks like Celtic took the Palestinian flag protest seriously and refused to play in Israel.

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  Wisnae me

HA.HA. wisny so apt. it wisna them.

mike
7 years ago

Its fantastic to be in the C.L.But lets not gloss over the facts and try to be honest.
Brendan got his team selection wrong,we all make mistakes so i am not going to critisize him too much.If he knew that we would have to defend as much then knowing that Sviat. was fit he should have played him,he got that right eventually,but he is hardly in the door,so ok.To move Lustig into C.B.was wrong IMHO and Janko should never be near the first team,he nearly cost us the Place in the C.L.Other players also played like they hadnt played together for years,there is a distinct requirement for a new right back and we need to put into place one or two bigger more physical players in midfield and one at centre back,Brendan will analys it and correct it,this tye was won in the home leg,its a complete mystery to me why we can play so well at home but so badly away,lets hope it gets sorted.

7 years ago
Reply to  mike

Mike I think we are covered central defence.
Toure was immense last night,Eric is back,Jose to come back,young OConnell in reserve,we are well covered.
Right back is Lustig,we need cover for him,Janko has a lot to learn. Central midfield is the problem,we need a ball player in the mould of Naka,someone who can find passes,who can hold it up for us,it’s too frantic in there,no composure.
So although the defence and in particularjanko is taking the flak,the midfield and forwards apart from Sinclair were very poor.
Lots to learn from Brendan,and one of those nights which thankfully went our way.

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

Canny argue with your analysis jimmy about the C.B.yes we are covered if they remain fit and Toure and Sinclair were both great,thank fuck the manager is bringing in his own players and not the bean counter,nervy stuff last night but we are through and thats what counts.

Thewildgoose
7 years ago

Jesus Christ was that hard to watch, with 5 minutes to go my stream went down and i was convinced by the time i got it back we would be 3 down but thankfully it came back on in time for the final whistle and Sutton’s “Get in” commentary. Delighted to be back in the CL and massive credit go the manager and players. Really looking forward to Thursdays draw.

Caption
The authorities prepare for the “ranjurz” are coming.

7 years ago

Jankos running power is the reason why he started the match.We may agree or disagree on young OConell being dropped,but whose to say he wouldn’t have had a bad game. So better with experience in the middle and hope that the players in front of the full backs provide cover.
Sinclair done it brilliantly on the left,but no one on the right.Forrest as poor as janko
The second goal is normal for us now,Gordon should have wiped him out with the ball.
So don’t be too hard on the players,it was a difficult night,in scorching heat,on a poor pitch. I hope young janko learns,and doesn’t let the criticism get to him.
Good to see Eric back and a great sub by Brendan,to see out the final quarter,without too much hassle. Hail Hail

7 years ago

Mike we looked more composed in kazakstan with oconnell , we looked a shambles without him, he is the one who has been playing in every game and it was a mistake to change that. We will forgive brendan though hes done the business and thats what matters

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  Delbhoy

Del, Toure played great last night,i canny get my head round him playing Lustig at C.B. instead of Sviat.fair play to him tho he went for plan b before it was to late.Three C.B.it should have been if he knew that we would be put under so much pressure.
If jimmys right and McArthy is coming in then that will help the midfield.that im certain.

7 years ago
Reply to  mike

Mike,
Sviatchenko wouldn’t have been 100%

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Thats probably true Monti,the thing that worried me was having O Connoll and Tierny on the same side of the team,i would have preffered Toure on our left with Tierney and O Connoll on the right with Lustig,we need a new r.b. mate its as plain as the nose on your pus.
A back up for lustig who i rate,but canny play 90mins.

Charlie Saiz
7 years ago
Reply to  mike

Ajer was left at home to play int eh Development Squad game?
He for me anyway has looked solid when called upon so far at the back.
I like Brendan I wanted Brendan but he’s made some odd decisions I think.

7 years ago
Reply to  mike

Charlie saiz,
When you talk about odd, would you consider dropping Kris Commons, Celtic player of the year for a guy straight out of Cardiff reserves, for Celtics biggest gamevof that season……” odd “?

corktim
7 years ago
Reply to  mike

charlie still deluded then,is your parents norwegian or are you just a wind up merchant

Charlie Saiz
7 years ago
Reply to  mike

@Monti
Commons was dropped because he was too slow and too lazy to play the high pressing game Deila wanted.
That Cardiff reserves player put 2 past us for Malmo I seem to recall at Celtic Park putting them in the Groups stages at our expense proving he can be a game changer.
@Corktim
The latter it would seem.

CarlJungleBhoy
7 years ago

Caption: Houston awaits arrival of Patsy Whyte at Court of Sessions

FuzzyD
7 years ago

Goddamn it was a close one but after some of the results and non-performances over the last 3 years I’m more than happy to take it. We didn’t play well at all but we had heart and alot of the players refused to hide or let their heads go down, even if it wasn’t happening for them. You can’t say the same about the last 2 years in Europe.

I even feel positive about last nights performance in some ways cause Brendan has already proven he learns quickly and changes things as soon as he can. I’ll be surprised if we play that badly again this season, against a similar level of team anyway, we’ll still get gubbed if we come up against a Real or Bayern in the group stage!

Celtic Mikey
7 years ago

Caption: A colonic irrigation therapist facing redundancy now that all the sevconians have and continue to shit themselves senseless after last nights result.

Slightly worrying that the manager would try a new formation for such a big occasion and mess around with the defensive line up. I suspect he won’t dick around like that again until the squad has improved.

Terrible performance but We are through and hopefully, as Johan pointed out, we can practice on holding onto the ball more and a distributing it a wee bit better. That will come with time and one or two more seasoned professionals in the squad.

Bring on Real Madrid! HH

Bgbhoy
7 years ago

So that group of players are a champions league side after all?? Amazing what a real manager can do.

7 years ago

James McCarthy coming on loan according to Phil, now that’s a midfielder.

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

Agree jimmy,he could should make a good contribution,at long last it looks as if the Manager is picking the players,not the bean counters,thank fuck.

7 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

Jimmybee,
Is it a loan with option to buy?
We should have bought him from Accies when we had the chance!

7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Loan only m8 but no def news just someone close to McCarthy telling Phil it might be going through.

mike
7 years ago

Caption, Brendan takes his shoes of after last night.

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  mike

And mikey takes of his shorts.

BelfastBhoy
7 years ago

It was dreadful last night. Painful actually. But we’re there and that’s all that matters. Tough conditions for the players, the heat must have been unbearable. I thought Leigh was going to faint at one point.

BR got it wrong last, although hindsight is a wonderful thing. Again, He wasn’t afraid to make drastic changes. The decision to bring Erik (who probably wasn’t 100% or he would have started) to central defence of 3 to nullify their threat was spot on. Our previous manager, would have stood at the sideline looking confused, rubbing his chin furiously. Back where we belong!

7 years ago

All the talk of brendans genius going three at the back , i said that after half an hour , it wad obvious. We were being flooded in midfield and they were pouring bodies forward on our defense anyone could see we needed an extra body in there and weren attacking them so didnt need the wingers up front

Charlie Saiz
7 years ago
Reply to  Delbhoy

I suggested it 2 days before the game and your right after 20 minutes it was obvious we needed to double up out wide by bringing in a 3rd CB and playing with 2 WB’s.
Took him nearly 70 minutes to figure this out.
To me the obvious choice was move Lustig out and bring in Erik or O’Connell at the expense of Janko who was hopeless on the night.
He has played this system on and off for years which makes it even more puzzling to me?

7 years ago

The morning after the night before did tell me one thing or a few things actually, firstly we need to get Simunovic and Sviatchenko fully fit, Toure can’t play every game but i see a threee at the back forming, Sviatchenko, Toure and Simunovic.
I would ask fellow Tims to be patient with Janko, he is going to be a big player for Celtic in the future, he needs coaching, patience and support! Stefan Johansen, Ambrose,
and Boyata Taxi.
Building a side to compete at the top table of European football takes years, this process has begun with Brendan arriving.
The good times are coming back Bhoys, we are in the CL again, going for 6 in a row……
The last time i felt like this was when we appointed st.Martin.
Something special is happening at our club and remember this also, yes we were poor last night and we did get a bit of luck but all sides need that at times!

HH

7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Monti agreed m8, but I would say Johansen is a better player than Bitton will ever be. I also rate him above McGregor.
But if his time is up so be it?But please put Bitton in the taxi too.
I will chip in his fare.
I’m with you on this being a special time again,I think it will be.
Yes we are in the champions league,but we all know we are not at the big table. We will defeat teams at home,but we need more midfield quality away from home. Sinclair showed what it is to be a top player. Toure also,just so calm and how many times did he knick the ball away,wonderful player.
Our strongest 11 for Europe
Gordon? I would see what the other keeper can offer.
Lustig at right back 100% but we need cover.
Tierney Left back 100% as above if Izzy moves on.
Eric and Tours 100% with Jose and OConnell in reserve looks good.
Midfield. Forrest Roberts Brown Armstrong Rogic McGregor Two more required in here,hopefully McCarthy will be one.
Forwards
Dembele Griff Sinclair Cifti. One more required here.
The rest good enough for spfl not Europe.
HH

7 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

Jimmybee,
I like Bitton m8 but he does need to do more!

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Janko will never be Celtics answer at r.b.he is far to limited,we need someone who can tackle with some pace,young Ralston should be considered,he at least can tackle and can cross the ball.

Charlie Saiz
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

“Building a side to compete at the top table of European football takes years”
Yes at least 2 perhaps 3 depending on Injuries Transfers and retirements.
Said this 2 year ago.
I fully expect Brendan to get that time regardless of results.
As it should be.

7 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Trolling again fanny bawz?

Charlie Saiz
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

What by replying to a post?

BondiBrian
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Mon noo Monti. Play nice. Different opinions are welcome surely. Unless am missing something between you & CS but it comes across as personal for you Monti. Just an observation, no a judgement.

MON THE HOOPS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

7 years ago

I do agree guys that Brendan got it wrong with Janko.
Craig Gordon did brilliant for the pen,but when someone is close to him he collapses. Maybe it’s all to do with his injury,I don’t know.
But twice with our own players beside him he couldn’t keep his hands on the ball am I being unfair.
Tierney runs back to cover the post,Gordon sees him but to be honest is scared,Also Janko at the second goal,all Janko does is run in to ensure the forward doesn’t get there first, he stops when he sees Gordon is getting it,all Gordon has to do is to catch it and either go through him,or fall onto the ground,again I think he shits it,and instead of going through Janko he fumbles.
Any other opinions on this,as I say I don’t like singling out players,it was a torrid time last night for Janko,but he cannot shoulder all the blame,there were too many poor performers in front of him.
Good to see everyone’s thoughts even though we may differ in opinion.
HH

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

Jimmy i think that you are being a bit unfair on Gordon,he saved a wrongly awarded penalty,he has said that he shouted to toure to let the ball come to him,he collected the ball and said he wasnt aware of janko till he ran into him,otherwise he did well.
When the match was happening you couls see Lustig and Toure shouting at Janko it looked to me that he lost it.The midfield (our heart)did not perform at all,Sinclair excepted.When Rogic and Dembelle came on we nearly scored,there physicality made a difference and they were not shoved of the ball.We can only tell our opinions which mean HE HAW but its good to discuss and be able to express them.

7 years ago
Reply to  mike

Agreed Mike, we only want what’s best for Celtic,and its good to hear differing points of view. HH

Iljas Baker
7 years ago

BR is a bit of a gambler, hence his selection of Janko, obviously hoping that had Celtic scored the picture would change remarkably and Celtic’s confidence increased. It didn’t work our as Forrest had a poor game and the midfield weren’t creating. But a goal would still have put it to bed. Eventually he realised the goal wouldn’t come and so he went with a back 3 replaced Forrest with Rogic and Dembele came on for his ability to hold the ball up – defending from the front.

I don’t think winning is all that matters – preparing for the future matters a lot now, especially after what we’ve just witnessed. I know players have to respond when the media is in their face but Brown’s “Bring them on” just didn’t strike the right note for me. These poor performances are fairly regular in Europe playing in Scotland simply doesn’t prepare you for the big time. Celtic need to become a counter attacking force at away games in Europe. I think BR realises this but perhaps yesterday came to soon.

iain in alberta
7 years ago

BR got us through to CL stages! At times I thought Janko was channeling Efe, it was all a bit too much for young Janko (only 20). Agree we need to show patience with our younger players. Thought Lustig and Toure did well under the circumstances. I don’t blame Gordon for Janko running into him, I agree with how you see Gordon though Jimmybee. Monti did you notice Efe and Boyata were playing for the development squad last night and we lost 3 goals!! Surely that is a message from BR on how far down he rates them both. Also agree about Bitton and Brown together as it doesn’t seem to work. Good to see Erik back too. Roll on Champions league hopefully we can draw Sevilla!!

7 years ago

Iain,
Ambrose and Boyata are shite!
Both of them out!

7 years ago

Monti ive saw nothing from janko mate to suggest hes a player , he is a right back who cant defend and when he attacks he runs straight into players continualy , even in the spl. Added to that his positional sense is all over the place he has the efe look about him

7 years ago
Reply to  Delbhoy

Delbhoy,
I respect your views m8, but i’ll be sticking with Janko, he is raw but there is a lot to him, time will tell!

mike
7 years ago

Those Dutch officialls last night were shite,after watching our home game with a ref. who knew what he was doing and kept the game flowing,last nights officialls were embarasing,the tackle for the penalty was outside the box and to award that wrongly nearly finished the tye.He continually along with the other pishstained officills kept on making the wrong calls,balls were out and called in,fouls were awarded incorrectly and with a severe bias to the home team.He should be named Homer,it should not detract from an abismal performance but we should expect better at that level,wait a minute Thompson red bull tonight god fuckin help them.

7 years ago

Can we imagine if Ambrose was in the squad last night and he came on with 10 to go…….i think that would have finished me off….

Charlie Saiz
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Do you think they would have scored the second if he was on the pitch?
I don’t positional sense wise Ambrose is miles ahead of Janko.

7 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Not only do i think they would have scored the second if Ambrose was on the park, i would fully have expected them to get a third and fourth.

Charlie Saiz
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Had their best striker not gone off injured they probably would have given the 2 glaring chances they missed.
Gordon also did well with some from range too.
Efe was nowhere near the shambles at the back this week or last.

mike
7 years ago

Champions League income circa £25 mill.
International Champions cup £8.5 mill.
52 thousand season tickets cir.£13 mill,at least.
New sponsorships,Data,magners,shirts N.B. £7.5 mill.

Thats a conservative figure of Fiffty Four Million Pounds.
If wee cannot bring in some new players,even allowing for debts of circa £17 mill.then i will eat my shorts.

7 years ago
Reply to  mike

Mike,
Apart from Paterson at Hearts, who would you like to see brought in and in what positions?

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Paterson is in the last year of his contract and hearts have rejected £600k,mibbee McGlyn who scouts for Brendan might have put him on our list,i rate him anyway,but Gunter the Welsh R.B.has a £imill. buy out clause.
So a right back deffo.
1/2 mids,cos Biton,Johanson,McGregor dont do it for me,so big strong Wanyama type def.mid. plus the Nigerian Ogu last night available for £1.5 mill.and McArthey are better quality without breaking the bank.
Dembelle i thought did ok when he came in,so not sure we need to spend huge cash,the above would do it for me.aprox. £10 mill.

Charlie Saiz
7 years ago
Reply to  mike

I agree on Ogu he looked decent in both legs and more or less took the piss of Brown at Hapoel.

Charlie Saiz
7 years ago
Reply to  mike

We owe roughly £14m bud.
That’s it.
We could clear that and still have enough left for the quality we need to compete in the Big League.
Hopefully this is what the Club do.
HH

Cartvale88
7 years ago

Caption ‘machina DVDs to deal with Brendan,s fury, according o the Herald’

Pj44
7 years ago

Mike,glad to see someone mention Ralston as RB this boy is every bit as good as RTierney and should be in team on merit.Iwoulld suggest we go after Patterson from Hearts as well as he is an all rounder with a bit of bite.HH

mike
7 years ago
Reply to  Pj44

Pj fingers crossed for Ralston,he has a good build and from what i have seen of him,he could save us a pretty penny down the line.

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