Celtic Diary Monday February 8: Ah, That’s What’s Wrong!

Celtic eased into the quarter finals of the Scottish cup with a less than convincing win over part timers East Kilbride. The score was 2-0, with Leigh Griffiths getting away with a handball for the first, and Colin Kazim Richards watching the ball roll down his leg for the second.

I was just glad to get the game out of the way so I could go and get a shot on my new deep fat fryer.

I’d spent all Sunday morning looking for it, and wasn’t going to wait any longer to give it a whirl. She had a moan because it was white, and didn’t go with anything else in the kitchen, but fuck it, its mine and I like it.

Fell out with the wonderful people at Pets at Home , though.

As I stood in the queue holding two big bags of dog biscuits, twelve cans of dog food and a packet of tennis balls-I’m not allowed to leave the house at weekends with cash no matter where I’m going

 

 

-so i didn’t have a quid coin for a trolley.

Anyhoo, my leg-I’ve a trapped nerve, osteoarthritis and at the very least a couple of deep vein thrombosises in there-started to scream in protest, and I waited, and waited. Just as the chap before me went to take his turn at the till, a fresh dourteen year old with a beard appeared at another, on the far side of the check out circle.i hobbled over to find he kept going to the other side, and my place was taken by one of those chaps with an anorak on, and undoubtedly a Jack Russell in one of the many useful pockets.

As I hobbled back over, they took it in turns to smirk at the hilarity of the poor chap now hobbling back.

Mind you, they stopped grinning when I threw what I was carrying at them and as a result I got the dog food from Home Bargains. Which was cheaper anyway, and now, as a bonus, I won’t have to go to Pets at Home again either.

Of course, she blamed me, especially as the deep fat fryer still stubbornly refused to blend in with the rest of the kitchen, so I went into another room to watch the game.

It wasn’t great, East Kilbride rode their luck a bit, and it suddenly dawned on me why. The goalkeepers last name was McGinley, and in my experience people with that name tend to be excellent players, wonderful thinkers and above all stand their ground when the chips are down, either on the football pitch or in Pets at fecking Home.

We won, they lost and no matter how you dress it up, that means that Celtic are still in the Cup.

On the pitch saw the return of Charlie Mulgrew, which may turn out to be a blessing in disguise. Mulgrew is still the only Celtic player who can take a free kick or cross a ball with any degree of accuracy, and although he can’t run about as much as he used to, he is an excellent organiser of other people running about.

A perfect compliment to Scott Brown, who just runs about and then tells other people what they should have done.

Dare I say we have missed his experience this season. Yes, I think I dare.

 

Which leads me on to an analysis of the season so far. Yesterday was a typical example not only on the pitch, but off it.

On the pitch, the players seemed a little nervous, and so they should have been. These games can be banana skins, but they got the job done. They were fairly comfortable in doing it, East Kilbride only managed one shot on target, whilst Celtic had a corner roughly every couple of minutes. Despite dominating in the air, the Hoops failed to run up a cricket score, which, of course , would have earned them some credit in the eyes of the media and the support.

Like it did with the win over Hamilton.

As the strongest side , at;least on paper, with the biggest budget, Celtic are expected to win all of their games, despite no side ever having done that in living memory, anywhere in the world.

And the club is expected to win well, playing fantastic football, every single time. Which isn’t going to happen.

And heres why…

In the league, the clubs play each other a minimum of three times, rising to four after the split. That allows opposition managers a chance to try different things against you, it allows them to notice weaknesses and nullify dangers.

Thats why Henrik Larsson’s achievements in Scotland are far greater than most “experts ” give him credit for. For seven years, he continued to score goals, despite defenders becoming familiar with his style. Which is why he continued to do well when he left , at a couple of Europes major clubs.

However, for some inexplicable reason, the support seem to have it in their heads that the current side should be winning every game by several goals, which is entirely unrealistic and only happens in those computer games where all your players are taller , faster and sharper than the others. But then they should be, you’ve spent millions on them, and computer games work that way anyway.

Real life doesn’t. Those players on the computer don’t have personalities.

Since Rangers died and left the scene, we were supposed to have it all our own way. Like they did when they were outspending all the other clubs. Of course, their level of spending, at a time when others were forced to invest in infrastructure, ensured their nine in a row, but later that would come at a price.

Towards the end of that run, Celtic had began to benefit from fresh investment that didn’t have to be spent on a new stadium, and thus began to compete.

This time, the dominant Glasgow side is facing clubs who have their house in order, are investing wisely and focusing on team building, and so far seven going on eight of them have won major silverware since Scottish football was deemed to be heading for the rocks.

Now , you may argue that Celtic, financially, should be at the head of the pack.

Like in England, where the financial behemoth Leicester City sit proudly at the top of the league, much to the consternation of the sides who have spent billions between them.

Football may be about to go full circle and become a team game again…

Players too, read these comments. They may well feel that they, who are on the biggest wage at the biggest club, should be winning everything in sight, putting in performances that the opposition should be capable only of standing back and admiring.

It doesn’t work that way.

It never has.

But the players don’t seem to handle this. They cannot understand why they aren’t playing well, and it appears that quite possible that Β manager Ronny Deila and his team of assistants aren’t quite grasping it either.

The other teams treat games against Celtic as their cup finals. Especially in the cup.

Big games for other sides don’t come around as often nowadays, and they are making the most of it.

What confuses me is that we all asked for more competition when Β Rangers died, and now its beginning to take shape, we want to sack the manager.

Not one single supporter, columnist or commentator has given credit to a new breed of manager that has grasped an opportunity and began to improve the standard of football at his club.

Alright, Derek McInnes has been around a bit, but not at any significant level, and theres little doubt he has improved Aberdeen, instilling a steel spine that wasnt there last year. Robbie Neilsen at Hearts, John Hughes at Inverness, Tommy Wright at St. Lohnstone have all improved things in a way that Jimmy Calderwood, Jimmy Nicholl George Burley and others of that generation couldn’t have done.

New ideas are improving things, and maybe a wee bit of credit should go to these people sometimes.

But for Celtic, we need to deal with this.

I first noticed this attitude when Stefan Johansen was talking about being in the Europa League instead of the Champions league.

He was shellshocked at being at a level beneath him. The other players , in their Europa performances, seemed to have the same attitude. The competition was beneath them. they thought they were Champions League players, and as a result fell apart when the sides Celtic were up against turned out to be a while lot better than maybe they had thought.

Or been told.

Curiously, and this made me think, how may games have Celtic played under Ronny Deila that saw us as the underdogs ?

Inter Milan, maybe ?

Ajax ? Fenerbache ? At a push ?

Has the attitude of the support, and there are plenty who have this particular mindset, where there is a feeling that Celtic should win every game, rubbed off on the players ?

Have we insulated ourselves in our own we world of supremacy so much that when others have caught up with us it has taken us -on and off the field-by surprise, and we are at a loss as to how to deal with it ?

It might explain why the players fall apart when other teams come back from being behind, and also explain why our own are incapable of doing so.

It’s all new to them, and they weren’t expecting it. They haven’t become bad players overnight.

The manager isn’t all of a sudden a diddy.

The support didnt suddenly turn into an overly critical bad tempered and intolerant bunch. Well, apart from those who shop at Pets at Home.

Its simple really.

We’re not used to these uppity wee teams fancying their chances. We want to be the underdog. We want nights like the win over Barcelona. Why should they have these great days out ?

Aren’t they our special thing ? Isn’t that what footballs about ? Celtic rising up against the odds ?

 

There is a major rethink needed amongst the palyers and management. They need to raise their game, everyone else has.

Same with the support. W’ve been complacent, and allowed our little world to be invaded. That cosy set up where ten in a row was guaranteed.

Well, this year isn’t the problem, We should still, with a bit of effort, win a double.

But we need to move up a gear. To make certain.

The players need to start acting and performing as though their lives depend on it. They need to deal with their fear of failure. They need to realise that they are the team others love to beat, that others love to see beaten.

Complacency has made it a little more difficult than it should be, but theres time to put it right.

And as for the support, how about realising that we are not blameless either ?

Anybody can shout at people when they get it wrong, but very few can encourage them to get it right.

We don’t have a divine right to win everything, no one does, indeed no one ever has.

So give it a rest and get behind the team.

 

I’ve read hundreds of replies, hundreds of different viewpoints, and tried to look at the situation from a number of different angles.

As it stands, Celtic have won four in a row with little opposition, sustained opposition, that is. The players and the support are struggling to come to terms with the reality of a strong challenge. Its like we all expect it to fade away at any point.

What if it doesn’t ?

Well, we need to make sure it does, by upping our game a wee bit.

Thats what is missing this season.

We didn’t make sure Malmo stayed down in the European qualifiers. We didn’t make sure we eliminated the individual mistakes in the Europa.

We didn’t make sure that Ross County had no way back into the League Cup semi final.

The team are doing half a job because they think thats all they need to do.

Inter Milan was the last team we played where we weren’t expecting to win.

That mentality needs to be removed .

Now.

The more we tell the players they should be winning every game, the more they’ll wonder why they aren’t.

I think the problem is that we thought it would be easy, and it isn’t. Other teams have improved, Celtic haven’t for whatever reason, and one of those reasons is that we cannot deal with adversity, on and off the park.

If we start to take the challenges seriously, the team should improve, the support will start to enjoy it more and the atmosphere at games, and attendances , will also improve.

And if you still think that its all down to Ronny Deila or James Forrest after digesting all that, then maybe you should watch the tennis.

 

Tomorrow , the diary will return to its usual fun and frolics .

I just felt we had to get this out of the way first.

 

Don’t believe all you read in the papers. Even the best of them can get it wrong;

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And so to happier times.

Have a look at this photograph.

Who are the opponents, and how many of the players can you name ?

 

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salad gueen
4 years ago

Brora rangers.

Joe
4 years ago

Totally agree. We all, fans, team and managers need to get fully behind Ronny and the team and drive us to the double. We are not entitled to anything and must savor every point we win.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe

Good luck with that Joe πŸ˜‰
HH

Down with that sort of thing
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe

Surely we’re entitled to a bit of effort? We put a lot of money into the club and the players are paid handsomely so that’s the least we deserve.

Plumsaucesaurus
4 years ago

“Effort” meaning what?

Are you suggesting the players/management team aren’t trying to win games?

Monti
4 years ago

Down with that sort of thing,
Your post is far too sensible for here, if you add ” great diary Ralph ‘ you’ll be in the club.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago

70% possession tells me enough effort was put in.

CeciltheLion
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

…..but the quality of effort was poor. All effort with little quality is Sunday football league stuff. Is that what we aspire to?

corktim
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Charlie if you are happy with yesterday performance then you are more misguided than i thought,70% possession yeah,but too lucky goals to go with it,open your eyes man to who bad we really are,that was a junior team we where playing and controlling possession is the least we can expect.

Uralius
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

22 shots, 5 on target. More effort please!

Morto
4 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

Well, more accuracy at least!

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

Wee Griff had an off day though a couple of them efforts would have made Goal of the season had they flew in.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

BOLLOCKS MAN!!

Down with that sort of thing
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

70% possession against a tactically naive team of amateurs?

Possession stats tell you nothing about effort or ability. Leicester, league leaders, handily beat Man City, champions, 3-1 while having only 34% possession. But had 7 shots on target to City’s 4. Leicester were obviously trying harder than most of City’s ‘stars’ with Toure being the no.1 offender.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago

We won.We move on to the draw.
Naw naw first we moan like fuck then we move onto the draw.
Better?
Nice one let’s all move along πŸ˜‰

BondiBrian
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Ah remember from ma fitba playing day being telt by the manager the difference between a professional and an amateur is effort. An amateur is %70 effort, %30 skill…its the opposite with a professional.

Dunno if it means anything but there yi go.

Good Diary Ralph.

Am in the club noo..ya beauty yi

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Joe

Behind the team, yes!

Martin B
4 years ago

I love the Diary and I always look forward to catching up with your opinions each day but it now feels like you’re tying yourself in knots to excuse the manager.

We laughed at Rangers when they struggled to deal with amateur opposition yet we now subscribe to the same ‘but it’s their cup final’ excuse. We talk of a big spend ensuring 9 in a row for them but point out that Celtic having more resources doesn’t give us any right to win.

Whilst I agree there’s an irony in that we now have a competitive title race this season – and I would urge everyone to enjoy the excitement until the end of the season (every cloud…) – this hasn’t come at the price of everyone else getting better. The performances in Europe provide the metric to back up the alternative hypothesis, which is that we have gotten worse. An amateur team yesterday played us for the first time – not the 3rd or 4th time – this season and coped with us comfortably for long spells. Their defence looked better organised and more willing to throw themselves in front of anything than ours do most weekends. And as a result we toiled to inflict damage.

And I’m tired of being told to encourage and support a team devoid of passion and imagination. I don’t think I have a God given right to watch a successful team, of course not, but I do expect to watch a team with some skill and determination to succeed, one that can be applauded when they give their all but still fall short, and that’s not what I’m watching right now. For whatever reason they are too often disorganised and uninspired.

And who else BUT the manager is to blame for that!?

CeciltheLion
4 years ago
Reply to  Martin B

So very right.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Martin B

MartinB,
The apologists are struggling!

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

In your heid we are apologists and struggling.
Reality however has us pointing at the X Box Stein shaking our heads.

BondiBrian
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Anyone wi a different opinion to you Monti is an an ‘apologist’ c’mon man get a grip. Almost sounds like yer bitter.

Bawsman
4 years ago

Totally agree, good article.

I’d applaud a player for trying something that doesn’t come off rather than shout abuse.
We, the ‘support’, are making the flair players play safe then moan when they do.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago

Excellent Diary again as usual Ralph had to find fault with any of it though no doubt the Fifa 16 Steins and Shanklys will.
Success can bring it’s own issues and problems and if you need proof of that go spend an hour or two reading Man United or Liverpool Forums to get a true sense of self entitlement fed by dominance of their own League.
Cup ties are notorious for producing shocks in England they call it the “Magic of the Cup” against Barca in the Champions League we called it “A momentous occasion in Celtic History”.
When a Moton,Clyde or Super Caley go ballistic however our fanbase goes into meltdown..well some of them anyway.
The reason being it eally shouldn’t happen to the “Mighty Celtic” conquerors of Europe (in 1967)?
Bullshit.
Every game must be approached with the same level of professionalism no matter who we face because if we don’t your Clydes,your Caleys and your Mortons will raise their game and give you a riddy to last a lifetime.
Yesterday was no exception?
A Celtic team who have stuttered all season,a plastic pitch,a windy day,another change at the back,different keeper,guys returning from long term lay off,a changed formation,a front man who is quick enough to cause problems with a lucky break of the ball on a windy day and a weird bounce.Last but not least a team of part timers playing in their own wee Lisbon 67 of their own.
A recipe for complacency and disaster if ever there was.
The side turned up and played their football,controlled the game from first whistle till last and won it easily.
No drama,no soul destroying headlines.
We move on.
The Manager and side were on a hiding to nothing yesterday.
We batter them…”Part timers they are shite.”
We don’t batter them…”We are shite..worst Celtic side ever etc etc etc”
Positives for me were Erik Muldini Allan Christie all getting game time.
No one injured,no drama just straightforward business.
No complaints here.

CeciltheLion
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Listen to yourself, CS. “…..a windy day…..”. Correct me if I’m wrong but these happen quite often in Scotland. Not much of an excuse for a low quality, if satisfactory, performance, yesterday. Not many excuses, at all that I can see.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  CeciltheLion

Windy day on a plastic pitch can play havoc with a balls bounce and trajectory.
Couple that with a quick forward and a defence that’s been prone to making mistakes well what you have there is a recipe for disaster.
Anyone who has played in these conditions would know that of course.

mike
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Sorry Charlie but your excuses get weaker by the day,we live and play in SCOTLAND,have you seen what past teams played on?Middens, with a great deal more skill.
I always laugh at Internet Forums they give you the oppertunity to air your views and then critizes these same views.We never had the oppertunity to air them before the internet,but if we did past teams and players would have got the same.Feck me wee Forrest came on with 10mins.to go against Ross County and got it in the neck for a poor Celtic performance.
CELTIC NOW and FOREVER.HAIL.HAIL.

corktim
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

the way you see the game ,you certainly didn’t play at any level.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  corktim

Might have played subbuteo….

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  corktim

πŸ™‚

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  corktim

Played it in your country for 2 years.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  corktim

Germany for 4 years
Scotland for 15 years on Black Ash,Grass long and short,Red Blaze,Indoor on Wooden floors,Artificial pe 3g.Artificial 3g,On the street,In the playground on concrete,On frozen pitches,Sodden pitches,In the winter,Summer,Spring and Autum.
But hey I guess that might not be enough for you boys?

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  corktim

Also In Croatia,Wales,England and the USA.

andybhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  corktim

Ha ha ha, fuck me, you think you are the only one to have played football on here. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  corktim

Can you get Subbuteo in Croatia?

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  corktim

The question was had I played at any level at all?
The answer is yes at various levels in more than a few countries on a multitude of surfaces which is in fact relevant to the statement that a windy day on a plastic pitch can affect the bounce of the ball quite a bit.
Thus the likelihood of a defender making a mistake is increased somewhat?
There was no such mistakes the game was dealt with in a professional manner without incident.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  corktim

@Monti
Our Regiment lost 3-2 to Hadjuk Split.
To be fair though we had all been working 12 hour shifts in 85 degree heat for 3 months solid prior to playing them.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  corktim

Was it Hadjuk Split or the 85 degree heat that killed the conversation?
On subbuteo you can get it in Croatia I gather but you can’t get it with 2angers in the box πŸ˜‰

Uralius
4 years ago
Reply to  corktim

Where did you play in Germany? Where in the US?

torrancetimebomb
4 years ago

ralph,
good read again mate, however as per usual disagree with a few things, you state
“As it stands, Celtic have won four in a row with little opposition, sustained opposition, that is. The players and the support are struggling to come to terms with the reality of a strong challenge. Its like we all expect it to fade away at any point”
I think you miss the point here, we are not struggling one little bit to come to terms with a challenge, we welcome the challenge as a fan base BUT our own performances have been pish poor. again yesterday, the team don’t look like they are up for the challenge, so who is at fault for this , not lawell, not the media and not the fucking orcs, the team are at fault and as head of the team Ronnie bears the brunt of this, did you notice his quote yesterday, ” it would of been very hard if we had been beaten today” no shit Sherlock but even to think that shows a real concern in my eyes as a celtic manager.

the support will accept ANYTHING as long as the players are playing for the jersey, 100% at all times, sadly the reason the support is disillusioned is because we are not
just watch it with your own eyes

ps
Ronnie always been a diddy, its not just happened overnight

Tonybhoy
4 years ago

We were very poor yesterday.I can forgive Losing to Ross County with 10 men and to a good Aberdeen team away from home but Sunday’s performance against part time EK was very poor. Slow build up play allied with no movement off the ball meant unable to break them down. the players look mentally and physically tired they don’t look happy , Ronnie is not getting through to,them or the players have switched off . It really does not auger well for as long as Ronnie remains in charge

Tony - C
4 years ago
Reply to  Tonybhoy

Tony, I cannot accept the results against either County or Aberdeen. I can set aside yesterday somewhat on the basis it really was a no win situation but it did reflect some very poor performances.

I note some supporters are calling for Ronnie (I hope this also means John) to go and based upon what I have been watching this season and I understand this. Some will point to statistics in Ronnie’s defence but there is vast unrest amongst those of us who attend the games. No one is confident about the outcome of any game.

What I do know is that without significant improvement in performance the league title is not guaranteed let alone CL qualification.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Tony - C

Yes it’s much better you go to games cinfident of a win and a nice day out.
God forbid we actually have a title race to get slightly animated about?
Jeez can you imagine that?

Ronny out ffs PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIC!

Tony
4 years ago

Well you make some reasonable points but I do not understand your analysis. First, everyone agrees the support should get behind the team. As a season ticket holder I attend each game with a positive mindset but often events unfold which can become frustrating. Most of us will accept a defeat if the team turn up with the correct attitude, apply skill and make an effort. The question is, has this been happening and if not, why?

Of the ‘big games’ we have played under Ronnie and John, it cannot be argued the outcome has been poor. The County game being the latest. Another semi final when we were out fought and out manoeuvred by a club operating on a low budget. At 1-0 up it should have been put to bed.

Ronnie and John’s ability to change the flow of a game is also of serious concern. If we don’t take a lead we rarely win. In fact, it would appear in the big games even when we take the lead it is touch and go if we can see it out. The substitutions rarely provide any confidence. Both the Aberdeen and County games are examples of the team being harassed, chased and challenged on difficult pitches and neither coach had an answer. It is truly poor stuff.

I accept we have no right to win every game or beat teams with wonderful football. But I expect our coaches to properly prepare for a game taking account of the various factors which may influence the outcome. I don’t accept either John or Ronnie are doing this consistently and neither has a plan B.

Pat McCarthy
4 years ago

This echoes what i have been saying all year. Some Celtic fanns have a WATP attitude and assume that unless we win 5-0 we are useless. they want to blame the manager and the players. I have never booed a Celtic team in my life and never will. We have a great team and a great manager but play in a league that is penniless. I still believe in Celtic.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Pat McCarthy

Jesus H. Christ you are having a laugh!

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Pat is Jesus Christ?

iancelt59
4 years ago

scotland has never warmed to celtic… good or great or shit. i read keevins take on it and suttons. its total character assassination regardless of whether ronny is the man. my assumptions to date is that he is not. but i dint agree with the malevolence and snide wtiting from the newspapers. the sxotsman at least wrote it as it was. the daily record and herald write ups were over the top and down right nasty. if nothing else ronny has balls. anyone else with a modicum of sensitivity would have left the job and scotland and left it to its archaic and biased opinions. for that reason alone i hope ronny does turn it around. though i feel his approach is misaligned maybe because of the mass hysteria that has been bandied around in the press

Jvr
4 years ago

Johnny Doyle, Willie McStay, Davie Moyes, john Buckley, Roddy MCDonald, john Weir, Jim Dobbin, Jim Duffy, Jim ‘Ben’ Casey, Mark Reid, Tommy & Danny Crainie.

I don’t know who the goalie, the chap next to John Weir or the blonde haired guy in the back row is.

Home Farm?

Historically, we have rarely built from a position of strength and we continue that now.

We now need the unity between the players and the support which we last had in Neil’s first season.

The grief Ronny is getting from the media is way over the top.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago

My boyhood hero comes out in defence of Deila today and tells it like it is.
Well said King Kenny.
YNWA

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Was your boyhood hero not a cat?

BondiBrian
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Sake Monti, can you no jist gie it a rest? Nip nip nip. Buken borin.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Charlie Saiz,
I tip my hat to ye, your pish is endless…..well done.

Whoriskey
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Trolling, Trolling, Trolling…BAWSNIDE!

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Whoriskey

Sshhhh fuckwit!

Whoriskey
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

You’d never hear that language from The Three Ronnies, now would you? I blame the Pretendy Football…

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Suck ma hawmaws Monti πŸ˜‰

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Only if I get to go Celtic on your Subbuteo table πŸ™‚

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

I was more a “Striker” kid myself… banging the big heid down and rattling it intae the top corner
Bit like my sex life when I cum TAE think about it πŸ™‚

andybhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

The very same guy who gave us Rafael Scheidt and took our club for Β£600,000. Oh aye, I would listen to him alright.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

The very same guy who is in both the Scottish, English and European Halls of Fame and who has guided 2 separate Clubs to the English Title on 4 occasions?
Aye that will be him.
The very same guy Who lifted
3 Division 1 Titles
1 Premier League Title
2 FA Cups
2 League Cups 1 in Scotland 1 in England
4 Charity Shields
1 Super Cup
Did I mention his 3 European Cup Medals as a player?

andybhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

I know exactly what Dalglish did, but he fucked the club over.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

You should show him your medals and shame him.

andybhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

He fucked the club over, it’s up to you if you find that acceptable.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

You polished them medals yet Kenny is waiting…

BondiBrian
4 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

Eh? How so? Details pal details:

CeciltheLion
4 years ago

Wrong thinking, pure and simple. We only want competition by other clubs improving to our standards; us deteriorating to their standards is a betrayal of the supporters’ trust and is far from improvement.

Nobody I know expects that we win all the time. We do, after all, win most of the time. We won yesterday and were booed off. What we expect is entertaining, free-flowing football most of the time. We simply are not getting that.

Those are the things that make the current situation unacceptable. It’s right that we feel entitled to see continuous improvement. As in every other walk of life, failure to improve leads to extinction. That’s why we have no hope of filling a 63,000 seater stadium any time soon.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  CeciltheLion

Cecil,
Great post!

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  CeciltheLion

Anyone else remember standing in Parkheid with crowds of 20-25000 in a stadium that held 67,000?
I do.
Short memories indeed.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

I do, as a Jungle regular in the late 80’s early 90’s!

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

I have PTSD from them days on the front row and caught a glimpse of Davie Dodds fizog from 10 feet….scary stuff.

FRANK REID
4 years ago

Are you RD publicist? Can we really afford to take the chance we lose the league and have no money from Champion League I don’t think so and if Liewell does not do something soon he will be the next target for the supporters.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  FRANK REID

He should be the only target for supporters.
You want Champions League Football on a regular basis then you have to invest in Champions League level players.
Seems to me some want it all ways?

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Charlie,
Did Maribor and Malmo invest in Champions league level players?
How much?

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

How did they get on?

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

They knocked Celtic out….

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

In the Groups?

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Celtic 2013-14
Champions League Group
Finshed 4th 3 Pts
Won 1 Lost 5
Scored 3 Conceded 14 (-11)

Maribor 2014-15
Champions League Group
Finished 4 th 3pts
won 0 Drew 3 Lost 3
Scored 4 Conceded 13 (-9)

Malmo 2014-15
Champions League Group
Finished 4th 3 Pts
Won 1 Lost 5
Scored 4 Conceded 15 (-11)

Malmo 2015-16
Champions League Group
Finished 4th 3 Pts
Won 1 Lost 5
Scored 1 Conceded 21 (-20)

This should really have told you all where we were at when Deila took over.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

A mediocre Europa League level at best.

Monti
4 years ago

Ralph,
Once again you are apologising for Deila, the reality is somewhat different though.
Are you seriously suggesting that Celtic supporters should be happy with what they are witnessing from this head coach and team?
Where does all this ” divine right to win mentality ” pish come from?
Celtic is the biggest club in Scotland, the demands of the fans sit hand and hand with that, the remit for Celtic players IS to win every game we play, domestically.
That can’t happen in Europe because the standard is superior to that in domestic football.
So the fans are realistic enough to know we aren’t going to win in Europe all the time, no problem with that.
There is also no problem with domestic opposition raising their standards, which shouldn’t mean our results start suffering, which they are.
The bottom line is, Celtic are NOT winning big games any longer, Europe is a thing of the past and we can’t beat Kilmarnock or Motherwell.
Have Kilmarnock and Motherwell raised their standards this year? No, so how come they are getting results against Celtic?

Deila out!

Whoriskey
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Ahem…”Where does all this ” divine right to win mentality ” pish come from?
Celtic is the biggest club in Scotland, the demands of the fans sit hand and hand with that, the remit for Celtic players IS to win every game we play, domestically”…maybe that is where it comes from, Minti.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Whoriskey

Wax on wax off Daniel son πŸ™‚

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Whoriskey

It’s a very hunesque mentality some seem to have acquired.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

More pish and drowning in statistical pish!

andybhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

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Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Wee andypandy and his troll pictures.
Click on them up at your own peril folks πŸ˜‰

andybhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

I’m 6’1″ and I think I could easily kick your squaddie arse up and down London Road.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Your baws are as soft as the next guys.

andybhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

You wouldn’t get the chance pussy…..cat.

Whoriskey
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Yes…beware Troll Links as you do not know what is attached. Apart from the Troll.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

@Anndy you know nothing about me stop talking pish son.

Dziekanowskis' nightclub child
4 years ago

I would agree but most of the points you made that are problems are created and need to be resolved by a strong management team. The other teams have improved but not by as much as we have regressed (which is not just Ronny’s fault… CEO to take some blame). All you have to do is look at the performances in Europe against better opposition, be it due to attitudes or not it still isn’t good enough and is indicative of a team in decline. Yesterday was shocking, the first half it was hard to tell which team were the lowland league side. All I ask for is a manager who can inspire the players and has more to his locker than hit long balls up the pitch to the wee guy and everyone else hunt the ball down, what is the use of having 16 midfielders in the squad if we don’t use the midfield that often?

Monti
4 years ago

DEILA OUT!

Monti
4 years ago

Post missing, probably because it didn’t contain ‘ great diary ‘ or ‘ brilliant Ralph ‘ on it’s content πŸ™‚

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

That will be the paranoia kicking in.
Nurse Ratched caught in traffic Monti?

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

” Just because you’re paranoid, doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you “!

Whoriskey
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

If it is another of the pictures of men with big tits maybe Ralph doesn’t like them or is wary of viruses on here…

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Whoriskey

Either that or you have just caught a glimpse of your reflection!

Whoriskey
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Say something funny, Minti, rather than embarrassing yourself and The Mont.

The Holy Poet
4 years ago

Great post Ralph with plenty in there to make every Celtic fan dissect what he or she thinks before actually saying it. Great wee thinking post

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago

We are not deteriorating that is nonsense.
We lost our central defence in the Summer as a result our defence has been a shambles most of the Season due to injuries and constant changing of the backline.
Aberdeen have strengthened in the window,they have also maintained their form by doing this.
Yet still there has only been a 3 point shift since last season at this point of the Season.
That’s 2 more for them and one less point for us overall.
Now consider the fact we have conceded more goals yet have scored more this points to the issue being at the back.
Once we have the likes od Brown Johansen Mulgrew and Commons back fit and firing then we will go through the gears.
Aberdeen are at their best we have more to come the 8 goal drubbing against Hamilton proves we do.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

More pish….la la la la la. White noise!

Zzzzzzzzzzzz Deila out!

bgbhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

took a few days off the diary after being woefully let down over the supposed sacking for the manager… i find it amusing that he is still in the job and i believe the only reason he is still in place is because dermot was unalbe to persuade his no1 choice until the summer… (keane) which would be about as bad an appointment as keane but there would be no more captains lying steaming in the street or players being done for drink driving or 5 k bar bills going unpaid… why are our players staggering from 1 pr disaster to another? are they not scared of the manager? no they are most certainly not, and at least keane would install the fear factor, fear of losing etc

” if we had lost to east kilbride it wpuld of been very hard” is this fucking clown for real?

celtic being booed for winning? ronny out now!!

bgbhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

***as bad an appointment since ronny

mike
4 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

Welcome back b.b.Montibanno missed you,if its to be R.K.then so be it,one things for sure D.D.will open the purse strings for him.
btw ah missed you too.

Whoriskey
4 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

Woefully let down is an understatement; you told us he was gone in the morning, then the afternoon and then you said they were waiting for a few days to prevent knee jerk reactions and all was pish. Please tell me that your source is not Minti or andypandy as they are about as accurate and are full of moonbeams.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Whoriskey

Have the creditors been paid?

andybhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Whoriskey

Whorisadik, when will we see the end of this vast array of hilarity that you shower upon us mere mortals.
Is there a school or perhaps a university that can teach us in the way of a master such as yourself?

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

Hogwarts…

Whoriskey
4 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

Indeed there is, it is called Primary School. Now you have had two attempts at ridiculing my name: Whore and Whorisadik and I’m sure you don’t need the likes of me to tell you they are pretty shit and show a lack of imagination. Make an effort, Man!

andybhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

Poor effort Whor.

Whoriskey
4 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

Biting, absolutely biting satire.

bgbhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Whoriskey

well lets just say my source is front line and even they dont know what is going on sometimes, i have had alot more things correct than i have had wrong and the people on here that write things can attest to that… so i can hold my head high thank you very much…

all is well in the world, we managed to beat a junior team with a handball goal and another from a set piece, no goals from open play… and more wonder statements from the football senzsei ronny deila

i think what we all are now coming to terms with is this manager will only be the manager until the end of season, the debates for keeping him are now bordering on the ludicrous… i can honestly say that IF we win the league the manner in which it has been done to date would not be good enough… people saying we have a hun attitude toward winning every games fail to recognize the gap in which we should have.. lets remember, this aberdeen side did not win for 6 games in a row, even if they recorded 3 wins they would of been out of sight… we are stumbling to another league flag when we should be lapping the rest of the teams, aberdeen icluded

if that is good enough for some fans then so be it, after all its good to win the league by just a point or even goal scored… but we should not be in this position… do we trust ronny to beat aberdeen after the split to win the league? do we trust him going to ibrox in the qf of the cup? i dont, dont know how many of you do?

27 first team players we have, of which 22 travelled to aberdeen last week? where is that in the grand plan? i would suggest hes making it up as he goes along!!

james forrest- a player who was starting every game, playing some of his best football and then boom, hes all of a sudden went back they way, down the pecking order for no apparent reason

calum mcgregor- drink driving, jesus why do our players lack self discipline outside of the park?

xmas do- 5 of them caught up in a unpaid bar bill for 5k?

scott brown- steaming drunk in the street 4 days before a cup final?

why is all of this happening? do barcelona or real madrid players get caught up in these scandals?

when man utd lost a home game before xmas they cancelled there x,mas night out, we lose to motherwell and the players catch a private jet to london for 2 nights on the sauce

a stronger manager would not allow these things to go on. after a certain players antics on a well documented night out under lennon he was told if hes seen out again in 6 months hes out the door

strong leadership brings strong performances, something we know we are severley lacking right now

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

Bgbhoy,
Great post!

Thewildgoose
4 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

James Forrest playing the best football of his career eh, yer man is pish, couldny cross the road, too busy playing with his fringe.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Whoriskey

Shower room tittle tattle from the Ayrshire Golden Child CSC.

Bgbhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Charlie. When i want your opinion, or advice on how to swear an allegiance then I will ask for it…… All together now…. ” I’ve got a brand new shiny helmet………..”

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

and on the end of it is a wee ayrshire winger with a soaking wet ringer…”

Bgbhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Rather have a soaking wet ringer than a finger on the trigger. Brits out now. TIOCFAIDH AR LA

Rebus67
4 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

If it is true that a successor to RD has already been selected, and he is not available to the summer, then the issue becomes should we let RD see out the season. The answer would be “yes” if we were sure that he could win the league. If we are not confident that this will happen, then we need an interim manager now. I do not think that any of the existing management team should step up to the plate. Perhaps, it is shame that Steve Frail left. He could take it on short term. Although performances are unconvincing recently, it is too early to conclude that RD will lose the league. The next two games will provide telling evidence.
I agree with those who think that RD’s time is up….it is just amatter of timing. I am sorry to conclude this because it is peoples’ jobs we are talking about.
The EK game summarised the basic problems…all flowing from the management. Firstly, even a team like EK knew exactly how to plays, without resorting hammer throwing tactics. Celtic attack down the wings, either through the wingers or the full backs. Opponents only need to organise three players between the attacker and the box. The winger/fds are either pushed wide or forced to try to sand dance through three players….hence very few real goal scoring opportunities are created.
Secondly, RD does not change the formation, he only swaps players into the same system. Look at the ludricous situation whe Allan came on. He was told to play wide as a winger. Did you see the crazy case of Allan trying to dribble in from the wing! Nuts, he is not that type of player…he needs to be central or slightly off centre to play through balls to create chances. RD does not understand any of this, or cannot react to any of it, game after game….even the ones that we win.
Let’s wait and see what happens in the next two games, then the timing issue will become clear.

Today is my birthday, so I am off for some self indulgence and may not be able to respond.

Rebus

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Rebus67

So 19 month into a rebuild we simply tea it up and start again?
Fucking idiots.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

tear’

Rebus67
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Charlie,
Thanks for reading my post. I see no sign of progress in the 19 months. We still do not have a settled team. Performance in the Europa is worse yearon year.
If we have a failure, it is cheaper to deal with it sooner rather than later, and we have failure.
Sorry that is my view, wish it was not so, but it is.
One consequence of this that I hope does not happen is for the board to appoint a traditional manager. I certainly hope that it is not Keane….. Another disaster in the making.

Rebus

CeciltheLion
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

I fear that your fixation with statistics is blinding you to the reality. Whatever the stats say, the performances are dire. We looked like a Lowlands league side yesterday, like a poor championship side against Ross County and an average SPL side against the Sheep. For you to say that it’s nonsense that we’re deteriorating can only be a blind devotion to stats that prevents you from seeing what’s really happening on the field of play.

Sure the Sheep strengthened in the window; so did we. Didn’t stop us from losing. There’s a moral there.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  CeciltheLion

We were weakened in the window with the loss of Denaayer & Van Dijk.
Aberdeen were strengthened.
The performances in the whole have been greatly affected by the loss of the above and the subsequent injuries to
Van Dijks replacement
Mulgrew long term injury
Lustigs injury
Lustigs backup Jankos injury
Boyatas inexperience
Ambroses form being eratic
These are facts which are backed up by comparing last season dfence with this.
Same coaches,same drills different central pairing(s)…

Celtic Last Season:
Played 24 Won 18 Drew 3 Lost 3
Scored 48
CONCEDED 13
Points 57
Goal Difference +35
League Position TOP

Celtic This Season:
Played 24 Won 17 Drew 4 Lost 3
Scored 64 (That’s an increase of 16 Goals)
CONCEDED 21 (increase of 8 goals)
Points 55 (decrease of 2 points)
Goal DiffeRence +43 (increase of 8)
League Position TOP (No Change)

Aberdeen last season:
Played 25 Won 17 Drew 3 Lost 5
Scored 44
Conceded 21
Points 54
Goal Difference +23
League Position 2nd

Aberdeen This Season:
Played 25 Won 17 Drew 4 Lost 4
Scored 44 (No Change)
Conceded 26 (5 more)
Points 55 (1 More)
Goal Difference +18 (5 less)
League Position 2nd (No Change)

Now having taken away my disappointment after each poor game this Season and having looked at the entire picture without emotion I can quite clearly see very little has altered regarding Aberdeens performance other than they have beaten us twice this Season and gained an extra point on last.
They haven’t won anymore games though which means of course they have lost out too “lesser” sides in the League.
Namely Inverness CT St Johnstone and Ross County as well as ourselves.
We on the other hand have won one less game and dawn one more game but have lost the same amount of games.
Twice against the second best side in the League (Aberdeen)and once against Kilmarnock.
The effect this has had is we have 2 less points than last season but a much healthier goal difference.
Even though our defence has almost conceded twice as many goals as last we have scored 20 more than last.
Now taking all of that into account I don’t think there is too much to be getting hot and sweaty about quite yet.
After all we know scoring goals isn’t the issue it’s keeping them out is all that needs sorting.
Mulgrew is now back
Jozo will be back soon
Erikis settling nicely
Lustigs form is improving
Brown is back again in Central Midfield.
Now perhaps you can see why I am not worried about the League?
If not then do me a favour and move on bud.
HH

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Motherwell not Kilmarrnock'(our bogey team for years btw)

Dziekanowskis' nightclub child
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Charlie, just constantly saying that we lost a centre defence and injuries doesn’t explain the lack of pace and movement that the team has at the moment or the fact that we are reverting to the long ball or the lack of fight in the team. looking at the stats I have we are 2 points down on 24 games played last season which is a deterioration, without an 8-1 against Hamilton who fell apart goals would be comparable. Mulgrew is finished and if we need him back then we really are in a bad place, why have we not brought someone in to cover these injuries?

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago

The loss of Brown and Johansen in midfiled would explain the lack of urgency in there.
Throw in an under performing Mackay-Steven and Armstrong this again adds to a lack of momentum going forward.
Injuries to key men in key areas have badly affected the team to deny this is naive to say the least.
Btw we have scored 90 goals already this season.
Conceding them is what has caused the issue not scoring them.

Monti
4 years ago

πŸ™‚

Uralius
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

I am sick of hearing exuses. It is not something my brain accepts and has not done for 10 years or more. I don’t want to hear them anymore. I don’t want to hear our Captain, players or manager making fucking excuses. Everyone on here knows I want what Deila claims he is doing to succeed, but to have have 2 of the brightest young wide players in Scottish football unable to cross with their weaker foot after 12 months is fucking unforgivable. To have only 2 players capable of putting in decent corners is fucking unforgivable. To have a poacher type striker who keeps scoring and the manager brings in TARGET MEN (who have a terrible goal to hand ratio) so cover is unforgivable. To not understand WHY the team performs better with Rogic in the #10 role and not replace him with similar players (putting 1 out on loan) is unforgivable. Do they not see these things? Do they not have technical coaches? Is it not Ronny’s job to improve these players? That is what he said he intended to do and I’m all for that, but what I am seeing has me seething largely because I can see it, but all of these highly paid professionals are so concerned with their bright fucking ideas that they are missing the simple stuff.

Uralius
4 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

Come on lads I want specifics. Things you can actually see going wrong.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

Deila takes his seat in the dugout, Ambrose in the first team.
There’s two glaring issues.

andybhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Ha ha.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

Uralius,
Good post!

John
4 years ago

Good article though as much as Aberdeen have improved we have went backward. I would enjoy the challenge a lot more if we werent underachieving. I don’t share your confidence of a double. Ronny talked up a treble again, he said after Quarabag we wouldn’t face anyone as good in the next round. He said we would beat Molde. Ronny needs to shut up and get it sorted on the pitch. He is saying we will win the league, perhaps it’s him causing the complacency in players and not us. I think we are gonna blow the league, I think we are motivating Aberdeen with the dismissive comments coming out of Celtic. We need to change now, if Ronny is here for now, he needs to button it and get it sorted.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  John

John,
Hail Hail, great post!

TonyB
4 years ago

It’s not about winning every game; that’s SMSM speak designed to undermine us when we lose.

I don’t know any Celtic supporter who thinks we should win every game.

To me what it’s about is making the best of what you’ve got and learning from your mistakes.

RD clearly isn’t doing either of these.

We keep repeating the same mistakes again and again eg. losing goals from set pieces.

We keep playing players who just aren’t good enough, thus keeping out others who may be.

Efe Ambrose is a prime example; how often does he have to show his poor ball control and judgement before the manager gets it? He passes the ball to opposition players at least as often as does to his own team mates.

Stefan Johansen, Boyata, Forrest et al Ditto.

What’s wrong with Scott Allan? In the few minutes he played yesterday he looked better and more comfortable on the ball than most of the rest of his team mates. Yet his chances to show what he can do are seriously limited by the manager’s timidity and apparent fear of trying something different.

And to me it is the attitude of the manager that is the main problem. To me Ronny is a fearful manager; fearful of making mistakes by trying something new, fearful of criticism and perhaps most of all fearful that he may be hopelessly out of his depth, hence his readiness to criticise his players in public when things go wrong.

The sooner he goes the better in my opinion.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  TonyB

TonyB,
Another excellent post!

gerard mckendry
4 years ago

Watched the EK on tv. Thought Ambrose abysmal. His misplaced passes put pressure on the defence. Forest was not much better. They get picked week after week. Why?

Monti
4 years ago

Forrest doesn’t get picked every week, although I agree he was poor yesterday.
Ambrose is a joke figure who should be in the big top at the Circus!
He was giving the ball away constantly to non league players and some wonder why he fucks up in Europe and cup semi finals?
A poor man’s Oliver Tebily!

Plumsaucesaurus
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Wee Forrest has the end product of a failed Kickstarter campaign.

Great technical ability and pace but his final ball is non-existent.

Can’t say the same for Tierney who has excellent delivery from cross balls and cut-backs.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago

Wardrop has the same qualities he will be emerging soon enough at RB.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

I haven’t seen Wardrope play yet Charlie, is he better than Janko or Fisher?
Is Janko actually still alive?

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

I have only seen Wardop in the flesh once but it was against a fairly strong liverpool side and he has good ability.
Strong in the tackle like Kieran and puts in a decent delivery when he get’s up the park.
He’s a bit behind Janko and Fisher but he’s a bit younger I think but you can see he has ability and strength already.
I don’t know if Fisher has perhaps an attitude? seem to remember reading something about him being a bit cocky after getting a few starts?
Don’t quote me on that though but it’s perhaps why he was sent out on loan?
Wardrup RB Breslin at DM and Kelleher CB to me looked very promising.

4 years ago

Come on. We should be beating a junior side by more than 2-0. If you are happy with that then thats up to you.

The truth is, out passing is shite in the last 3rd, we have no one (Mulgrew included) that can take fantastic free kicks or corners and we just aimlessly cross balls into the middle instead of actually trying to find a man.
Mackay-Stevans was especially dreadful, failing to beat the first man when crossing every time.

The reason teams are knowing how to play against us, is that we are so predictable and never change our style of play.
I cant see why people on here are saying that the League is in the bag. Aberdeen will be pushing us close and the other mob will strengthen next year also.

In other news, does anyone think that since the second half against Aberdeen, we have changed to man-marking at corners?

4 years ago

While I agree we don’t have a divine right to win all the time nether does the team have the divine right to be supported the way that they do this club does not deserve the support they have week in week out maybe time we done something about that

BondiBrian
4 years ago
Reply to  drewster

…’we don’t care if we win lose or draw’

Ah get yer point Drewster and am no saying we follow in blind faith but there are times when we – the supporters – should stick the gether.

Aye ok, RD teas’s probably oot but no before this league is finished.

HAIL HAIL N aw that!.

jrw
4 years ago

Ralph – I agree with much of your analysis; the team does need to sort itself out. Lack of effort is always (and will always be) unforgivable for anyone in a Celtic shirt. Whatever we may think of the quality of lack thereof of the current squad (and management), once they cross that white line we need to support them to the full. I know we all get frustrated, anxious and aerated when things go badly, when poor tactics are adopted and questionable team selections made and performances pall – it is very easy to get on the backs of players in such circumstances. And if we are not entertained by football played the Glasgow Celtic way we all get grumpy – some more than others. There are perhaps too many of us paid up members of the Conditional Celtic Supporters Club Number 1 – e.g. I’ll only go to games when/if …

CeciltheLion
4 years ago
Reply to  jrw

Yes, JRW, we must support the team. It can’t be blind support, though. If things are staggering from bad to worse, we do the club no favours by ignoring that. What state would we be in if the Rebels hadn’t won?

We have to make the arrogant board and incompetent management see that they’re dragging us down a track to footballing oblivion but great corporate success.

Seems to me it’s a case of the patient’s dying but the operation’s a great success.

jrw
4 years ago
Reply to  CeciltheLion

Agree – shortcomings (and there are many) need to be pointed out.We need to maintain our high expectations so that the board and management are in doubt as to what is expected.

Murphyman
4 years ago

Ralph, the best article I have read on here regarding the current situation at Celtic. Also refuse to shop at Pets at Home.

Plumsaucesaurus
4 years ago

We actually have our own fans using the term “Liewell” coined by Zombies now.

Some of you lot need to get a grip.

BondiBrian
4 years ago

and don’t forget ‘tick tock tick tock’

Buken disgraceful.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago

Spot on.
Green huns.

Celtic125
4 years ago

You were right all alang. Did you see wee Henderson yesterday tae? Paddy Roberts waiting on the wing. I c wheat and I c chaff and on the horizon Celtic on the ball. Ronnie Bhoy’s weathered the storms! Time tae show the basterts! Sorry but am no.

torrancetimebomb
4 years ago

Charlie,,
“we are not deteriorating”
really mate, are you sure, sorry the statistics as you are very well aware say we are, Europa league this year v last, league postion this year v last , still in the league cup last year v this??
for a guy who relies on stats so often?????

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago

We won the League Cup and got knocked out the Scottish Cup.
Las time I looked we were in the draw for the Scottish Cup and top of the League with a game in hand.
Feel free to correct me.

4 years ago

So your admitting that several other clubs have changed things around, their putting in better performances and are playing more entertaining football, a lot of which is down to the new breed of young exciting manager’s willing to try different things,willing to play attacking football willing to blood young talent week in week out and all on a shoestring budget,then how the hell did we end up with the least exciting and tactically blind young management team,James Forrest once again put in another piss poor performance yesterday, his final ball is woeful coupled with the supply from the other wing by GMS then the two of them would still be there now trying to cross a ball into the box and maybe getting over the first man or god forbid find a Celtic player, Forrest alone has to be one of our poorest deliverers of the ball yet that’s what he’s picked to do, yesterday was screaming out for some flare in the centre midfield, Scott Allan type player to unlock a defence with a good array of passing not 2 headless chicken’s on the wing, 3 if we include Ambrose in the pick of terrible crossers of the ball, but we won so that’s the rot stopped eh..HH…RONNY OUT!!

4 years ago
Reply to  KEIGHLEY BHOY

I know Delia puts emphasis on fitness in training but do they actually play any football?

For example do they have one on one sessions for players to improve their weaknesses. i.e. crossing classes for Forrest and GMS. Things they are good at mostly come naturally so dont need as much training.

I have always thought this. Crossing classes for Agathe, dribbling classes for Balde.

Surely we should be improving players skills as well as their fitness.

Voice of T'Reason
4 years ago

It’s quite scary when you put it the way you do, Ralph.

I’ve heard this kind of thing before, this air of self-entitlement. This air that everything should be given to us on a plate.

Of course, we’re not THEM, or at least we shouldn’t be! We pride ourselves not being that, in fact in my 44th year I am proud to say that I have never been like THEM, may they give us peace!!

There has been an air of expectation but I would offer that is down to a couple of things. Firstly, I think many have been taken in with the SMSM putting too much emphasis on the fact that we should be winning everything and that a fourth domestic treble for Celtic is a foregone conclusion. Given the amount of times it has been done you’d think we’d know different.

Then there is the fan base who are at an age where they have only known success. If you haven’t lived through the 90’s as a Celtic fan then you really haven’t learned to have your expectations managed.

I haven’t forgotten the fact that Ronny has failed in a number of ways but on the flip side some could argue he’s been brought in and is in some ways a patsy to those who make a lot of the decisions around the place in which our head coach has no say. I can’t say for sure what they are but I think it’s well known Ronny doesn’t have the last say on a lot of things.

Lastly, has it dawned on anyone that clubs now have a different air of belief? The now defunct Old Firm was a duopoly on all things in Scottish Football, now football players in well run clubs are being told “You have a chance of silverware” That in itself is motivation enough for guys with short careers who want to make something of themselves. Teams who work together win matches, happy footballers play better football. It strikes me the Celtic dressing room isn’t a happy one for reasons I won’t even try to fathom.

An ill-educated guess would be players don’t like the system or the training/tactics. There looks to be a division amongst the players too with someone like Stefan Johnsen or John Collins being the issue. Again, this is just guesswork and I could be wrong.

Suffice to say, it’ll all come out in the wash.

Thewildgoose
4 years ago

Voice of T’reason

Good point, well made.

Cartvale88
4 years ago

Yesterday’s game as u said was a banana skin, win lose or draw, the MSM would have Celtic.
On the other side this fixation with Ambrosia and Boyata is a joke, the EK defenders were better.
What I do not he is if Leicester spent all of twenty five million pounds on their team how can they compete, whilst week after week we are poor.
Leicester play fast break away attacking football, we play pass the ball from side to side, who is responsible fr this abysmal system.
The amount of money supporters plough into Celtic atleast deserves entertaining football, not the stupidity forced on them every game. Where’s the hemlock!

CeciltheLion
4 years ago
Reply to  Cartvale88

Mmmmm and why has Leicester gone from last season’s basket case to this season’s champion favourites? Mostly the same players, not flashing the cash, eh, let me think….

I know, they got themselves a decent manager with skills as a motivator, a plan and some concept of tactics. He does his homework, tinkers with the plan and…..bingo.

Wonder if there’s another club anywhere that could copy that model?

Brian53
4 years ago
Reply to  CeciltheLion

Yes they have a decent manager but the tactics they play would not work for us. Look at the stats in the last game, all Man City, in much the same way as we dominate play. They play on the break and convert enough of their chances to win.

When are we up against it and can play on the break? Europe! Yes and that’s how we should play in that competition. Instead fans want to play the “Celtic way” and attack and we get caught on the break. We have to wise up.

In the league we are mostly up against two banks of five, saying that we should get forward quicker.

We could not afford/entice someone like Claudio Ranieri not while they can get jobs in top leagues.

Plumsaucesaurus
4 years ago
Reply to  Cartvale88

Comparing the situations of Leicester and Celtic is utterly pointless.

For one Leicester aren’t the biggest team in their league by a considerable distance and neither are they expected to win every single game.

If Celtic sat back and invited SPFL teams onto us like Leicester do in order to play counter-attacking football the same people deriding Deila’s system would be on here complaining about negative tactics.

Some folk just like a moan without putting any thought into what they are saying.

“Be like Leicester”….what a farce.

CeciltheLion
4 years ago

I fear you’ve missed the message and the point. I’m not looking to be like Leicester. Acquiring the right manager was the point.

Always sad to have to explain the point of a post. I’m sure it says more about the writer than the reader.

Plumsaucesaurus
4 years ago
Reply to  CeciltheLion

I replied to Cartvale88’s message.

Always sad when someone doesn’t understand how a forum reply works.

Plumsaucesaurus
4 years ago

Cecil away trying to scrub the red out of his neck.

CeciltheLion
4 years ago
Reply to  CeciltheLion

Yep. Sure am.

CeciltheLion
4 years ago
Reply to  CeciltheLion

I’m impressed that you can see my discomfort from where you are.

Monti
4 years ago

Plum,
Leicester do not play counter attacking football, the quality of opposition down there force you back, Leicester City is a great example of organisation and good recruitment.

Plumsaucesaurus
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Aye so they don’t they are Brazil 70 and the current Barca team mingled together into a fantastical amalgam of all that is beautiful about fitba.

Away and boil yer heed Monti.

Monti
4 years ago

I done that this morning before I cleaned out my utility room πŸ™‚

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Cartvale88

8 of their squad were free signings Mahrez cost Β£400k.
Doubt he will be sold for less than Β£20m in the summer?

BondiBrian
4 years ago
Reply to  Cartvale88

Leceister – great as it is – haven’t won anything yet. Ah hope they do but probably no.

Its sport, great things can happen, and shite things.

PeteCon
4 years ago

There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.

I really hoped Ronny would be a success and have been in the “give it time ” camp but sometimes you have to put your hand up and admit a mistake. None of the recent results have been a shock which shows how low our expectations have become.

I rejoiced when Sally was kept on while scraping through the leagues and bombing out the cups while wasting their resources and now I see Ronny weakening us. The experiment failed and it is time to cut our losses before
European football becomes a distant memory. We have survived without CL income for 2 years but I fear further failure and the subsequent loss of income could see us searching for
the slow lane with binoculars.
With our budget we should be able to afford a manager capable of producing a side to win the league comfortably and reach the CL group stages regularly. Anything less should be unacceptable.
Sorry Ronny. Good luck with your future.

Mike Bhoyle
4 years ago

You can write as many words as you like…
The bottom line is…
Our style of play sucks…it’s absolute pish.
It’s based on passing..using players who canny pass…!!
Yesterday was chronic…no excuses.
We need change soon…or the support will dwindle away even further.
And if RD is there next season…I won’t be..!!

Plumsaucesaurus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike Bhoyle

Yet another childish “It’s my baw” fan giving it the “I’m no going back” pish.

CeciltheLion
4 years ago

The 20-30,000 like him might just be doing us a favour.

Monti
4 years ago

Plum,
It isn’t pish, it’s a fellow fan expressing HIS point of view regarding all things Celtic.

Plumsaucesaurus
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Toys out the pram behaviour. In a huff. Spat the dummy. Throwing a tantrum.

This delusion among Celtic fans that they be successful in everything that happens at the club is self-destructive, Hunnish and pathetic.

Mike Bhoyle
4 years ago

Plum..I don’t know you from Adam…so won’t presume to tell you about yourself.
So do me a favour..and don’t tell me about myself…’cos you know nowt about me.
For your info…
I’ve followed Celtic since 1957…have played and coached at a decent level..and I’ll tell you now..we are pish…and going nowhere fast.
If you think different…then fine…
But I repeat…don’t slag me off.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Am I not doing the same then Monti?
If so when you post Pish below my post does this not make you a hypocrite?
Feel free to answer yes or no to both questions…

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

No πŸ™‚

Whoriskey
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Hypocrites never answer awkward questions.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike Bhoyle

Mike Bhoyle,
Good post, covers a few points many thousands of Celtic fans are dealing with HH

Mike Bhoyle
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Cheers Monti,
A voice of sanity…and respect.
HH

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike Bhoyle

Mike,
I don’t understand this ” self entitlement ” shite from some folk, I have always believed that you have to earn a win through sheer effort and graft, something that I apply to my own life.
You get out what you put in sort of thing, now that isn’t self entitlement, surely?

I really don’t understand this acceptance of unacceptable Celtic performance from this manager and team, what is this loyalty to Deila born of?

It is sheer madness! HH

andybhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

M. Simply more deflection from people that can’t accept what’s staring them in the face.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike Bhoyle

Oooft.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

You just clocked whoriskey’s tits?

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike Bhoyle

92 goals scored in 41 games so far this season. (Average 2.2 Goals)
64 in 24 League Games (2.6 per Game Ave)
18 in 12 European Games 1.5 per Game Ave)
10 in 5 Cup Games (2 per Game Ave)
That with Brown Johansen Commons injured on and off throughout it.
Explain why that is please when we are such a shambles?
I’ll tell you why for one last time.
>>>>>THE DEFENCE HAS BEEN THE ISSUE SINCE DAY 1<<<<<<<<
Goals conceded
21 In 24 League Games
17 in 18 European Games
4 in 5 Cup Games
The Loss of Denaayerr and Van Dijk has been our undoing ,the injuries to Mulgrew Lustig Janko Jozo have compounded this major issue further.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Last Seasons Figures up to this point in the Season:
85 Goals Scored in 48 Games in total (1.77 Goal Ave)
48 Goals in 24 League Games (2 Goal Ave per game)
20 Goals in 12 European Games (1.1 Goal Ave)
17 Goals in 6 Cup Games (2.8 Goal Ave)
30 Goals Conceded in 48 Games in total.
13 Goals in 24 League Games
17 Goals in 12 European Games
O Goals in 6 Cup Games
In effect we have scored 7 more goals in one less game.
Conceded 12 more goals in one less game.
This has resulted in a 3 point shift in the League.
We have a point less Aberdeen have a point more.
Incidentally Aberdeen have conceded more goals in the League than we have with a shambolic defence.
They have also scored 20 less goals having played 1 more game.
Calm the fuck down folks.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

42 games in total’
12 European Games’

andybhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

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Whoriskey
4 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

Don’t click as it is probably a virus.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Whoriskey

I know wee big andypandy cannot handle the facts.
I stopped clicking on them a while back once the site started slowing down.

andybhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Whoriskey

Your’e the virus dickwad.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Whoriskey

Now now Parahandy bit less coal on the furnace Big wee man πŸ˜‰
Waits patiently for Monti to repeatedly ask Ralph for Pandy to be booted for personal abuse….

https://youtu.be/2fAt-k3kILE

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

Brilliant Andybhoy!!

Whoriskey
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

But andypandy doesn’t start with a capital, sorry, a big A…and unless he has been at the Daz 2 in One I think you may be overestimating the brilliance of andypandy, the purveyor of videos from kiddies fillums and pictures of Arnie’s big tits. Is it a Nintendo thing?

timbuffy
4 years ago

The tactics yesterday should have been simple. Play at top speed and make the part timers chase you all over the park. Then, when they’re blowing out of their arses in the last half hour, bang in the goals. Instead we were our usual, slow, turgid selves and struggled to put them away despite all our possession and number of corners. Having said that, well done East Kilbride.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  timbuffy

Indeed It should have,could have been alot better tim.
However it was more than enough to saunter into the next round.
Well done the part timers indeed.
They put that Hamilton mob to shame so they did.

Uralius
4 years ago

I respect and understand what the manager is trying to achieve, but like many of you I have had enough of the lack of passion from this side. I was far more happy with the way East Kilbride performed than my own team who won 2-0. Not because I feel we should have drubbed them, but apart from Broony, Tierney and Mulgrew (for moments) there was no real sense of urgency about our game. All too often the ball was p played back to Mulgrew who thank God can still distrube the ball like a boss. This issue of the game slowing down when we have the upper hand on the counter can be attributed to 1 major issue 1 footed players. All of them struggle to distribute cross balls with their weaker foot. This is something that needs addressed by a technical coach with video replay, mirroring software and time (20+ hours twice). Not only would that make us more direct it would also make all of our players worth 3-5 million more. Lastly when they left Celtic they would end up getting wages 20-30% more than 1 footed players.

Monti
4 years ago

Just to recap where we actually are with Ronny Deila in, erm ‘ Charge ‘!
Two seasons in a row Europe, CL has been a complete disaster, Europa league this season gave us not a single win, for the first time in our European group history.
Let’s leave Europe there.
Domestically last season Ronny Deila was robbed of a treble by cheating officials and a cheating Josh Meekings.
This season, on the back of an Awful European campaign, domestic results and performances have been abysmal.
We are not even beating the sides at the bottom of the League.
The stadium is nearly half empty and we have people, definitely one board member who wants the poorest in our society to struggle some more.

It is a fucking joke and I will continue to fight those who say otherwise.
Because unlike Dermot and Lawwell, this kiddy on manager and coaches…I’ll be there for Celtic when they have all fucked off!

Deila out!

Ian
4 years ago

EK are a amateur side who have only existed for 5 years, the manager is a taxi driver (wonder how much he charges to glasgow airport?). I don’t think any spl teams have improved at all, they’re not being beat regularly by a strong old firm so they look better on paper, reality is they’re just as shit as normal and celtic seem to be following them.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Ian

Ian,
I would say Aberdeen have got more consistent in terms of their results, but the rest of them are average to shite.
Shite that Celtic are struggling to beat.
Look at some of the results this season…embarrassing!

The Ronny Lovers clung to this ‘ Treble ‘ talk, now what have they got? Diddly.

Whoriskey
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Now, now, Minti, don’t try and re-write history, it was the hun press and you and your mates who said the treble meant nothing just so you could shower your shite when we didn’t win it. Well done on that, it must make you pump up with pride.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Whoriskey

Now now, no trolling!

Whoriskey
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Top deflection, Sir…x

BondiBrian
4 years ago
Reply to  Whoriskey

And I quote’ “I don’t give a fuck about the treble’ The bold Monti.
!
IF WE WIN THE TREBLE : YAAAAAAAAAAAASSS

IF WE DONT: TELT YI AH WAS RIGHT.

WIN WIN.

sad, really.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

@Monti
Explain tome why it is we have scored 20 more goals than Aberdeen
Conceded 5 less than Aberdeen
Sit above them in the table and still have a game to play?
Explain why our season is so horific and theirs is so wonderful considering how bad we have been according to some on here?
Don’t you find it strange all these facts seem to say something completely different?

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

I find you strange…….

Whoriskey
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

That sounds like the first stirrings of love…

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Deflection…. try answering the question.

Uralius
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Charlie Saiz,
Although I know Monti is more than capable of answering this. I will also answer.
Despite the statistics being thrown around there are a number of glaring issues with the promises made by our manager.
We were promised:
1) Quick attacking football
2) Young players coming in and becoming CL class quickly
3) That the system being played would get the most out of our young players quickly
4) The creation of a solid “Celtic” heart of the team that would remain to challenge for the Champions League year after year.
So far we have recieved:
1) Slow uncreative 1 dimensional football that relies on the other team making mistakes rather than our brilliance.
2) Young players coming in being forced to play out of position with no technical support from the backroom staff to help them become technically proficient in their new role none of whom appear to be getting close to Europa League quality as a result after 12 months
3) The system being played is forcing many players into roles they have never played and requires them to know exactly what 3 – 4 players around them are doing without them fully understanding their role.
4) Due to the failures 1β€”3 we do not have that Scottish heart to our team instead we are out loaning and buying foreign players again.

On top of all that we are not seeing enough guts, fight and determination on the field of in the dugout.

I know Monti skips the middle part and only ever really posts anti-Deila posts, but unless I see the young players playing out of their natural position getting better at playing with their weaker foot and see a bit more of a demand for excellence from each other then I will start with Monti posts too.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

@Ualius
I shall answe each point without stats πŸ˜‰
1) Quick attacking football- Brown Injured ,Johansen pulled back into the DM position Amstrong and Mackay Steven off form and carrying knocks.
2) Young players coming in and becoming CL class quickly-That takes time at least 3 years to 5 years to build a young side capable of Competing at that level
Only 18 months into it.
3) That the system being played would get the most out of our young players quickly-Tierney McGregor Rogic all benefiting and improved in this System
4) The creation of a solid β€œCeltic” heart of the team-Gordon Tierney McGregor Brown Mulgrew Forrest Armstrong Mackay-Steven Griffiths Allan Christie all Scots.
Henderson Lindsay Nesbitt all to come back soon.
1) Slow uncreative 1 dimensional football – 92 Goals scored in 48 games
64 goals in 23 games a feat that has not been bettered since Season 2003-04
2) Young players coming in being forced to play out of position- Nonsense Injuries have forced the Manager to jostle players around players who have played in these roles previously apart fom McGregor who has done well ight across the midfield.
4) Due to the failures- Top of the League lost as many games this season as last up to this point that’s 3 in total 2 to the second best side in Scotland 1 to our long term bogey team Motherwell.
The rest is opinion I don’t share.
HH

Uralius
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Charlie Saiz lied,

He used stats.

All of my arguments are valid neither Armstrong nor GMS played as Inside forwards before coming to Celtic and they are not getting the technical support they need to make the transition.
Johansen lost the #10 role to Tom Rogic and ended up having to take whatever chance came along.
Brown is not off form he is playing in a role that requires him to keep track of what half the team is doing just to know his positioning.
We are lucky other teams are making mistakes and Leigh is a born poacher able to capitalize on every single one of them. Lucky deflections from long shots count for a large percentage we have only on a few occasions had some brilliant play that has resulted in goals. All too often we pass all the way back when we should be counter attacking. Why I hear you ask? Well our young wide players cannot hit the side of a barn with their weaker foot so they have to cut back and all momentum is lost, but by good the opposition can counter attack. In an interview with Chris Sutton Ronny said that he intended to get going players polished up for the Champions League quickly. Quickly does not mean 3 years.
What I am saying is we are papering over the cracks and unless I see the central midfield roles become less complicated, I see our young wide players become 2 footed, our manager put like for like players into roles especially our #10 role and our lone striker role and we start scoring more goals by being good at it and not from mistakes and deflections. I’m not going to be happy. I will be more than happy if Ronny reads this and sorts it all out. I am Celtic through and through!

jpm 88
4 years ago
Reply to  Ian

I’m a bit bored reading about this greatly improved Aberdeen too.
If , we retain the title then they will have failed to win a trophy or even reach a cup final in the last 2 seasons.
Add to that , their failure again to get through to any European competition and I think that puts their calibre in perspective .

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  jpm 88

Jpm,
Absolutely!!

Cartvale88
4 years ago

My point about Leicester is:
Our budget in comparison to the majority of teams is not teany weeny,
If you compare us to Europe’s elite few clubs yes we are minnows, but we still have a stadium and a support that can be filled by season ticket holders.
Over the last few years Lawell and the board have undersold the club and when problems arrive point th finger at the management team. Look at both th departures of Strachan and Lenny.
Peeps on this link behave like the zombies, continuously blaming others, but not the board and Lawell.
What are Celtic’s signing policies, why do we sign so much dross, is that Strachan, Lenny and Delilahs fault, or are they the fall guys.
I agree we cannot do a Zombie and spend money beyond our means, but I do believe a few wise signings and bringing in the likes of, Henderson, Nesbitt, O’Connell against weaken sides would be an improvement to Kazim Richards et al.
The pity is when a player is discovered h is overworked, TIERNEY?
Plumsaucerous has a point, but their is also constructive criticism

Admin
4 years ago

A football team takes its inspiration from the manager. The fight, the determination, the passion, the don’t stop till the final whistle approach, the tactics. This current team is powder is puff, lacking in ideas, looks confuised and is representative of the manager.

It’s like watching Barnes and Mowbray’s teams. When both managers were replaced the majority of the same players improved and many not good enough were shipped out.

The buck stops with the manager domestically…in Europe against decent teams (who we’ve fleetingly faced under Ronny) an excuse can be made….but not in Scotland.

There’s quite a few of our fans in denial about Ronny’s glaring misgivings. A shame really.

Dziekanowskis' nightclub child
4 years ago
Reply to  Hector Bandido

well said Hector

CeciltheLion
4 years ago
Reply to  Hector Bandido

Agree with all that except that the buck actually stops with the board. Only they can appoint the manager; only they can dismiss the manager. They see the same shite that we do but they also see the dressing room unrest.

That they’re an arrogant shower of self-serving freeloaders is where the problem really lies. I can almost hear the noble lord giving it the “Let them eat cake.” offering and the CEO scrambling around trying to rally his troops against the great unwashed that are getting a bit uppity.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Hector Bandido

Hector Bandido,
Totally correct!

Celtic125
4 years ago
Reply to  Hector Bandido

No having a go Boss but wae the exception of Mr Stein misgivings are applicable to every other Celtic manager too. The point a few of us have being trying to make over Ronnys tenure is that he wants to be here. I was heartbroken when the Bunnet sacked TB. Not because it hadn’t worked out but because we wurny willing tae wait for a Bhoy who wanted the job in the first place to come good. Straight up. How many times do you think the auld tins gret about McGrory? I’ve loved the idea of Ronny managing Celtic since I watched the Maestro play them that are gone his self. Ralph made his point about Neville earlier and it made me think, what British born Coach has been successful on the Continent since the turn of the Century? That model is dead. At the very least, Ronny Bhoy is no that.

CeciltheLion
4 years ago
Reply to  Celtic125

Not enough, I’m afraid. I want to be there too but I’d be as shire as Deila.

No, wait. Nobody could be that shite but I’m not the answer; Ronny surely isn’t either.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  CeciltheLion

I think I would take us into the CL group stages and win the treble!
I actually believe that!

X-BOX ON! πŸ™‚

CeciltheLion
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Keep living that dream, mate.

Whoriskey
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Of course you will, its only Pretendy Football after all.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

πŸ™‚

selkirk casual
4 years ago

caption. hmm I should get this . Selkirk 1980 . celtic 2 Selkirk 1

Uralius
4 years ago

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Abu O'Donnell
4 years ago

The need to win every game was coined during the years when deidco were active in our league. It was the only sure way we could win the league. The only sure way of overcoming the cheating. The evidence has been provided by the fallout from the demise of the Hun, DougieDougiegate et al.
No reasonable Celtic fan expects us to win every game. It is impossible.
I no longer buy newspapers and turn the sound off when watching matches on tv. Their remit is to discredit us and wind us up.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Abu O'Donnell

Abu,
You are right about them discrediting us and at the wind up, the biggest one of all being the perpetuating myth that the tribute act is the same club.
This is all the more reason to have a strong, winning Celtic on the park, because nothing winds those cunts up, more than that!

Macca
4 years ago

“Not one single supporter, columnist or commentator has given credit to a new breed of manager that has grasped an opportunity and began to improve the standard of football at his club.” Surely you are not referring to Ronnie who has made us worse than when he arrived. Id much rather go back to the old breed of manager that could spot a good player, sign a few of them, run training sessions so they knew what to do on a Saturday (especially how to defend), got them pumped up and sent them out to win.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Macca

Macca,
Well said!

Whoriskey
4 years ago
Reply to  Ralph Malph

Resorting to facts about what you actually said! Do you know where you are Ralph?

Monti
4 years ago

East Kilbride 0 Celtic 2

Someone actually blamed the weather and pitch surface.
Hee Hee hee

Uralius
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Monti scroll up a bit and check out my disappeared post. Probably got caught by the filter die to my limited vocabulary, but it is specific about why I am annoyed by this coaching team.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

How can I check it if it’s disappeared ya daft hoor? πŸ™‚

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Just consult the voices in your head.
It works with everything else you post πŸ˜‰

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Wait a minute, someone is talking to me…:)

Uralius
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Well I guess you saw it Monti.

jpm 88
4 years ago

Ralph,

I’m a bit confused with your article criticising the fans for their sense of “self entitlement “, when in Wed 3rd Feb article you talked of “heading for five in a row with little prospect of a serious challenge for the next five years” or words to that effect .
The fans have a right to be worried about how close a decent , but no more than that , Aberdeen are running us.
They’ve a right to be concerned when we huff and puff to beat a team of EK level by 2-0 ( the first shouldn’t have stood, so should have read 1-0).
Can anyone on here honestly say they wouldn’t have mocked Sevco , had that been them v EK yesterday?
We’ve mocked them many a time when they’ve struggled against small opposition.
Fact is EK are a more lowly side than anything they’ve played in the last 3 years.
Had it been a “one off” yesterday ,OK , but on the back of most of this season , it’s worrying , at the very least.
I championed Deila when he came , believing it could be a bright new direction ; however , the reality over the dream , has set in.
Aside from the CL , I believe it’s 11 EL games without a win.
I said on here last week that whether the board stuck with Deila for the rest of this season , or sacked him now ; either was an equally big gamble.
Well it looks like they’ve laid their bet, so an interesting 3 months ahead !
As to no serious challenge for next 5 years, we’d be insane to believe that.There’ll be a new club debuting , by the looks of things , and we have a right to be worrying as to whether our club is ready and fully prepared for what’s coming .Forgetting this season , the worst thing we could do is under- estimate that.

Big Shuggy
4 years ago

My wee dad who is 78 and his wee mate who is 81 go to every game home and away and have done so ever since i can remember.They go on the supporters bus no matter the weather conditions and support there team. They will then on the long journey home go over the game and all to often this season say that was crap and argue just like the rest of us the reasons for our poor performance.
Recently though the two of them cannot understand why a Celtic team is getting booed off the park after winning a game or drawing a game,they just don’t get it.They can’t understand why a manager who has the team top of the league is being hounded out his job. Why because they have seen a lot worse.

They point out that from 1945 to 1965 When Jimmy McGrory was manager we only won the league once in the 1953 – 1954 season,in the same season it was the first double in 40 years. until Big Jock arrived. They went from watching Celtic win one title in 20 years to watching Celtic win 9 in a row and they were both lucky enough to go to lisbon and see the lions win the big cup.
they have been lucky to see Celtic win many more league titles since we won 9 in a row but they have seen us lose more.

They know the football hasn’t been great but we are going for 5 in a row and sit at the top of a table and they wouldn’t have it any other way.

jpm 88
4 years ago
Reply to  Big Shuggy

Big Shuggy ,

well done to your Dad and his mate ,
they’ve “lived” the Celtic history that we’ve read about and been brought up on.
Reminds me of my Grandad and his John Thompson mirror he used to have on his wall when I visited as a child.

Whoriskey
4 years ago
Reply to  Big Shuggy

Hail, Hail to the old pair…there’s nothing like experience for talking common sense.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Big Shuggy

Big Shuggy,
Your old man is 78 and his pal is 81?
Tell them I said they were talking pish πŸ™‚

Big Shuggy
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Monti they are that age. My dads mate was at every European game this season including Quarbag,Malmo and Fernabache.My dad doesn’t do Flying any more so doesn’t go,but anywhere else in the uk and Ireland they will go. The young team call them Legends and they are.

I will pass on your message πŸ™‚

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Big Shuggy

God Bless them both.
HH Thanks for sharing that Shuggy.

BondiBrian
4 years ago
Reply to  Big Shuggy

Shuggy…i’s because they come fae a deferent era, an era where there was a sense of community, a sense of belonging ah sense of mateship: they stick the gether. Noo adays its everyone for themselves, microwave mentality of wanting hings RIGHT NOW, nae patience.

That auld boot Thatcher and her cronies started it by ripping the guts oot of our society, no thei society…oors ( well, mine at least ).

Rant ere.

schoosh71
4 years ago

Although they may steady the ship presently, I’ve got to disagree with you as regards Mulgrew and Brown, as IMO you don’t play 2 defensive midfielders in a 4-4-2. In a 4-4-2 you need 1 defensive midfielder, while the other should be a ‘box to box’ type. When Mulgrew receives the ball he is far to slow footed, as well as minded. It takes him at least 5 seconds to decide what he is going to do with the ball. ‘Every’ player during every second of the match should ‘know’ what they are going to do with the ball ‘before’ it comes to them. As of Brown, whenever Mulgrew got the ball yesterday, Brown should have been ‘bursting a gut’ to get beyond the opposing teams midfield. He is too happy to pass the ball backwards to the defense or sideways, never looking to go beyond, that would have dragged their defenders out of position, to create space for our forwards. Only my opinion. Well done to EK with making a game of it. HH

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  schoosh71

” MAN WHO CATCH FLY WITH CHOPSTICK, ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING ” – Mr.Miyagi

schoosh71
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Believe in or not, my brother actually done it. In a smelly Chinese restaurant in Blackpool, while under the influence of ‘drink & drugs’. True story. I see you have ‘NO’ comment as regards a positive contribution towards and about ‘football’. HH

schoosh71
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Thanks, I’ve never had a stalker. πŸ™‚

schoosh71
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

My brother caught a fly with a set of chopstick, so should be the next manager?

Whoriskey
4 years ago
Reply to  schoosh71

Not unless he has appeared in a kiddies film or is a great manager on Pretendy Football…

mike
4 years ago

I have read quite rightly a massive amount of NEGATIVITY and now my tits have overloaded,now for some positivity.
1 We are TIMS thank god.
2 We are supporters of a Fucking great club.
3 Our charitable Foundation raises Β£thousands of Pounds each year,by a fucking brilliant support.
4 last year our club supported many other Scottish clubs in many different ways,loaning back the lad Chtistie to ICT for example,many other clubs benifit from our Loanees.
5 our away support contributes massivley to the coffers of all other clubs,
I could go on and on but you get the picture,we moan and moan but thank you Glasgow CELTIC you are fucking BRILLIANT.

Macca
4 years ago
Reply to  mike

Mike, everything you mention is about the fans and indeed it is all brilliant! Sadly everything about the team on the park isn’t, and not by a long way. Its Ronnies job to get things right on the park and he isn’t doing it very well at all. We’ve ben crap all season. The fact that every other team in Scotland is no better is no comfort. We were piss poor in Europe against mediocre opposition and now we are looking piss poor in our own league

mike
4 years ago
Reply to  Macca

Macca,

I agree with every thing you have said,i just wanted to remind our fans of the great things our club/support achieve.
Sometimes we forget the positives and focus only on the negative.
H.H.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Macca

Macca,
100% agree, we are having difficulty beating the mighty Kilmarnock.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Mind when we couldn’t beat the mighty Caley Balisticos the Morton Milan and Clyde Galacticos?
Aye mind them days……

andybhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

One thing you seem to overlook is the fact that Deila is a raging spoofer who talks and well, that’s it really.
Bye Bye Ronny.

Whoriskey
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

See above…just change Deila for andypandy and read it again.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

πŸ™‚

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

I don’t seem to overlook the actual facts though.
That is something you should remember.
Celtic are top of the League
Celtic are in the next round of the Cup
Celtic have more gears to find
Aberdeen don’t.

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