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Celtic Diary Thursday January 7: Out with The Old, In with The New

At a recent Etims board meeting it was decided to leave the rumour mill for a day or two as the speed with which some of the information is coming in has our pretty little heads all awhirl.

As a mature medium, we’ve decided to leave all the nonsense to the mainstream media, so that we can laugh at them afterwards.

If you’d like a list of the players linked with the club, simply google professional footballers and get a list of all those currently earning a living through the game, and whittle it down to those with six months or less on their contracts, and filter out those under six foot two.

That seems to be what the press are doing.

It does suggest, however, that the tail is about to stop wagging the dog, and after eighteen months or so in charge, Ronny Deila has finally decided who he wants, he he doesn’t want, and what he’s going to do about it.

So far, the badly spelt Kristoffer Ajer is here for a weeks trial. According to the Record, he would rather have gone to Liverpool;

When Ajer was quizzed about his ultimate dream as a footballer he said: “It is to walk out on Liverpool’s home ground, Anfield, and hear the supporters singing You’ll Never Walk Alone.  

Of course, that song, along with the Fields of Athenry , was stolen from the Celtic support, so I guess he’s just gone for the original instead of the 2016 remix.

And they did steal it, they’re from Liverpool, so even if it came to trial there’d be no need for a jury. Thats how we know Noah, who built the ark, wasn’t from Merseyside. He only took two of everything.

Talk of a permanent move to Celtic was played down by Ajers agent, who coincidentally represents stefan Johansen, which again points to the absolute minimum effort that the club puts into its scouting operation.

“He will be working out for one week. There is nothing more to say for the moment.

“I will not comment on a transaction. It is not appropriate.

“Kristoffer will look at them and Celtic look at him.

“There is little that that should break up Kristoffer’s everyday life to get him tested now.

“It’s a bit like the Rome trip he had a year ago.” 

Ajer went to Roma for a similar weeks trial. He’s still with Start. that may be because he didn’t like it there, or they didn’t think he was ready. Or he might have just fancied a break.

Start club chief Evan Brandsel couldn’t give a toss if the boy goes or stays, by the sound of it;

 “Ajer should get acquainted with the team and they are very familiar with him.

“This is something he wanted and we think it’s okay. We are calm about it.

“What happens at the end of this, we don’t know. We exclude nothing.

“Naturally, we would want to be compensated on the day when he eventually does go and it can happen to him in this window.” 

The player himself probably got an idea of how the club felt when they gave one of those Euro rail passes for Christmas.

He seems a happy enough chap, though.

“Like any other footballers, I dream of becoming an overseas professional but I do not rush into it. I’ve been training with Barcelona and Rome. It’s incredibly fun to train with the world’s best footballers.

“The playing style and culture is a little different than I’m used to but football has the same language wherever you are in the world.

“I decided very early on that I wanted to be good and have always liked to work out a lot. My dad was the coach of my first team, Raelingen, and I trained with him every weekend.

“Mum always made sure that I did my homework before I got to go out and play football.

“I really miss the days when I could just run to the ball bin at school and enjoy myself with football. You should enjoy every second of the time.”  

The reason he appeals to Deila is clear. He was captain of Start at sixteen, and if there is something lacking at Celtic, its definitely leadership.

“I was very excited and thought I would get some ugly looks.

“I was a very young boy and many people probably think it was a bit strange to have me on the team but I quickly became part of the group.

“Frode Kippe of Lillestrom is my old childhood hero so it was great to play against him with the captaincy on my arm.” 

Undoubted potential, and he will be aware of Deila’s methods, and it is clear he trusts them. A six footer in the number ten role removes the need for a big striker, and if he’s good on the deck as well, then the pivotal role would suit him.

As long as he’s not shite.

Deila and Collins took in the Everton -Man City game last night, prompting specualtion that they were having a look at Aiden McGeady.

In actual fact, they weren’t scouting anyone on the pitch, or at any of those clubs at all, but were engaged in negotiations to bring back another former player , on a short term contract, so that he can make up for his last short term contract.

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They seemed to be having fun, until someone at Everton suggested a move for McGeady so he could get back into the Ireland team.

Others reportedly on the go get em list are prevalant in the papers and on the web, unless you count our own revelation that an offer has been made to bring back Georgios Samaras.

Our source is good, if a little eccentric, so don’t discount it. again, he offers spirit, which is lacking at Celtic.

It looks like there will be players coming in.

What about those leaving ?

Inverness have reportedly enquired about Anthony Stokes, which given John Hughes’s thoughts on the players “problems ” is no surprise. It would be a good move for Stokes, as he needs to start all over again, and he’s not going to get that chance at Celtic. Leeds United are also looking at him.

Efe Ambrose, who has put up with a lot of flak at Celtic, and still stayed to fight for a place in the team might end up in China. Sven Goran Eriksson is at a club in Shanghai, which isn’t called that anymore, and has expressed an interest. So the Scotsman says, anyway.

Tell you what is a little odd.

Kris Commons, billed by the media and not a few supporters as our best player, our creative inspiration and our main goal threat, hasn’t had a tickle.

So to speak.

Why ?

What does the industry know that we don’t ?

Probably nothing, but it is a mystery.

Anyway, no matter who we sign, they won’t have the enthusiasm that young Ryan Christie has. signed from Inverness in the summer, and farmed back out to them on loan, the player is ready to go after being recalled to Glasgow.

 “I found myself singing along under my breath when I was at a few of the games.

“The fan-base down here is pretty incredible and even walking through the town I have been noticed a few times which is quite surprising to be fair but good. I can’t wait to get out there and hopefully make an impact.

“I was at the Ajax game with my girlfriend and she was pretty amazed at the atmosphere. She has only been to Inverness games before so she was pretty taken aback by it as well. Just hearing the fans makes you more desperate to get out there in front of them.

“It’s definitely pleasing as it’s a chance to come in and hit the ground running hopefully. If we manage to stretch away from Aberdeen, it might give me more of a chance to get involved with the team between now and the end of the season. It’s given me a right good chance to get some game-time for Celtic.

“When I first signed back in the summer, because I was back up in Inverness the next day, it was like it had never really happened after a few months had gone by.  

“But now that I am down and in with the team, I feel part of the changing room now. I have been at a couple of games and watched the boys play.

“I was at the Ajax game and that was pretty incredible and I could imagine it must be an amazing feeling playing in front of that many people. I’m just desperate to get out there now.

“It’s a new challenge going into the New Year. I’ve a good year in football over the past 12 months and I’m looking to replicate that in 2016.”  

Christie seems to be that rarest of things in the football world.

A player comfortable with the use of polysyllabic words.

Meanwhile, over in the land of monosyllables, potential European champions Second Rangers ignored the possibility that the transfer of assets when the now defunct original club went down might prove to have been one big scam, and went about their business as normal.

Two more overlooked superstars found their way into Mark Warburtons squad via Accrignton Stnaleys reserves, and it appears the Ibrox club haven’t made any new friends down there.

Their chairman, John Holt, told the Lancashire Evening Telegraph;

“I don’t like the way Rangers have gone about this, not picking the phone up to John Coleman,”

 “It’s not illegal but it’s not the way it should be done.

“People are telling me we’re talking to Rangers, we’re not. Whoever is talking to Rangers it isn’t me or John.

“It’s important to make that distinction. I’ve not had the club long and people are saying we’re selling players. We’re not, that’s not what I’m about.”

Perhaps the new Ibrox entity really is the same club. They have certainly inherited that special personality that made the old club so well respected.

Although Warburton may actually have uncovered a couple of decent players;

Crooks and Windass have been Stanley’s stand-out performers this season as John Coleman’s side have mounted a promotion charge.

The Wham Stadium chief insists none of his players will be sold in this month’s transfer window, but he faces losing his star men without a penny in return this summer.

“It’s ridiculous,” said Holt, who has invested £1.2million in the club.

“We could lose them for free and Rangers could resell them and take any profit. They could sell them back to England if they wanted to.

“Because they’re getting them for free they can offer wages that other team can’t offer.

“It’s not about the lads’ rights to earn a living, I respect that and I like them. It’s about what’s right and what’s wrong.”

Windass had never started a Football League game before joining Stanley, while Crooks had made just four appearances for Huddersfield and Hartlepool, and both have developed under the tutelage of Coleman.

“They’ve come a long way at this club, since they’ve been at Accrington it’s transformed them,” said Holt.

“Out of maybe 25 or 30 players, three or four might become big stars and when they move on they pay for the next 30. It’s not about one person and what it costs to train one person. It’s about what it costs the club to operate. I don’t like the way the rules are set out. 

Astonishingly, as happened to the old club when much merriment was caused when it emerged that the two men who finished the demolition job started by David Murray were called Green and Whyte, and their last signing was a chap called Celik, someone clearly hasn’t thought this all the way through.

What if one of the new players was to be pictured next to, say the current assistant boss, maybe receiving instructions during a match ?

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People think its easy to make fun of Rangers fans. It’s not, you know. It takes ages to explain it to them.

Oh, by the way, James Doleman, the reliable source for all things legal and illegal concerning the Ibrox pantomime, said this yesterday;

James Doleman statement

Which kind of leaves one or two newspapers editors with a headache.

 

Right, after yesterdays picture when those young girls were seen ringing the Radio Clyde Request Show and asking “Do you have the SAM Song, by Eire OG ? ” today we have a picture that should prompt a memory or two, and also remind us that cup shocks happen, and we have to role with them.

This is in response to the inevitable radio phone in, if it hasn’t already taken place, that should Stranraer beat Celtic on Sunday, Ronny should get his jotters.

Celtic's Stephen Pearson troops off at the end. Picture: SNS

Finally, the Celtic Trust are still fighting the Offensive Behaviour Act.

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All you have to do is put in your name and a few simple details and an email will be sent to all your representatives in your name asking them to support the petitioner and the aims of the petition.

It will only take a few minutes of your time and we urge you to do it now.

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BelgoBhoy
8 years ago

What were they thinking bringin in Cole if Samaras is on the radar? I know it’s early but i’m getting excited for this window! Then again, it wouldn’t be Celtic if we didn’t go for a last minute Akinfenwa on loan deal…

bgbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  BelgoBhoy

excited mate? i wouldnt get too carried away! who we going to bring in for a maximum 15k a week?

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  BelgoBhoy

Belgo,
What do our scouts get paid for exactly?
I mean any one of us could just recommend Samaras to the club, is that all they can come up with, a player deemed not good enough 18 months ago, suddenly becomes the go to guy?
Fucking abysmal.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

I recommended Fabian Johnson to Lenny 3 year ago.
He signed for Mönchengladbach on a free transfer last Jan.
I doubt Izzy would have got a start the last 12 months had he been signed.
It was a well known fact his contract was running down we could have had him for less than £3m at the time.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Do you actually believe Lenny would a) have received your recommendation.
B) stopped training once he was informed your recommendation had reached his desk)
C) dismissed it out of hand.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Well since my wife actually knows him and the Club made enquiries about Mills shortly after then I suppose something might just have happened.
You can choose to dismiss this of course as fanciful pish.
Not my concern.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

How well does your wife know him? 🙂

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Charlie Saiz,
You are spot on, I will most definitely dismiss it!

BelgoBhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Well, i’m excited about the Norwegian kid to start and I welcome the fact that the coaching staff is actually looking into players first hand.
You are absolutely right Monti. Why is the coaching staff doing scouting work? That’s an alarm bell for you.
I have had it with this board. It’s one thing to say that we lack funding or that it’s so hard to attract players, but what are they structurally changing to solve these issues? Right, fuck all. Even we are coming up with ideas like a fanbase funded transfer kitty. How about involving our fanbase in the scouting system? Would cost next to nothing and nothing to lose. If we want to innovative go all the way

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  BelgoBhoy

I should imagine Ronny gives the scouts an outline of what type of players he requires and in what positions.
The scouts put the feelers out and get a few hits like with this lad and then either Ronny or Parks follows it up to run their eye over them over a few games?
The fact Ronny is Norwegian probably means he already new about this kid and wanted to have a look again himself before committing?
Only they know I suppose.

mike
8 years ago

Ralph great article again, you mibee droped the ba with Pavel R.I.P. but you are by far the best Celtic Bampot by far.
One or two wee pointers for the diary if you dont mind.
Reduce Charlie Saiz posts hes so repetative and his stats are doing my head in.
Please also Highlight my posts because they are always varied and informative.
That would be much appreciated pal ive got a wee bottle for you at home.
Love and Kisses. xxx

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

AMEN!!

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

“Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored” Aldous Huxley
I gleamed a great deal of interesting information from your post Mike.
Ps I will keep mine shorter but alas the facts will be presented when all we have is opinion based on nothing more than emotion and/conjecture.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

How much shorter?

mike
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

They will not be very short at all.#

Ive got my eye on you Charlie Saiz i saw you last night coseying up to BroxburnBhoy, trying to start your own wee clique.
All wee Ronny Lovers together.

Watching you two.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

Confirmation on one wee aspect right there.
Thanks Mike.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

You got his number Mike, Spot on!
He would have been upset yesterday at Devoy for agreeing with myself.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

@Monti Devoy is his own man who he speaks or interacts with is of no consequence to me or my life bud.
Time your head round the concept what we all discuss chanes hee haw it’s a debate that’s all.

Broxburnbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

Why thank you Mike. Actually while I agree with Charlie on a few things I also disagree with him on a few things. I am expecting Delia to show the goods by the end of February in terms of league position and cup progress and failing something acceptable. I will also begin to question him. Not his objectives and vision rather his ability to execute it. When Charlie presents a set of facts Mike on number of goals scored with one up front versus 2 or 3 and I agree that scoring goals is not our issue, that is less than a clique. Monti actually responded that the fear factor of coming to Celtic park to face two up front may be a benefit. fair point. So Mike lets stick to the facts and the debates. I’m unconcerned about who is saying what. I will add my thoughts the way I see it and sometimes it will along with others on here and sometimes not. Kind of grown up stuff

mike
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

Broxburnbhoy,

I stand corrected and will stick to the facts in future.
Fact, Deillias record is good domestically and pish in Europe.

Fact,Deillias style of football is upsetting the fans.
Fact,You can spout stats and get them to say any thing you want.
Fact,I want Celtic in the C.L.not for my own gratification but for Celtic to access the cash to help us buy better players.
Fact,I had a great aunt who hailed from Broxburn she was a wee smasher and subsequently i have always had a soft spot for that part of the world,its no superior though.

CeciltheLion
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

Grown up stuff? Here? It’ll never catch on.

Broxburnbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

Hi Mike Yes you are right there is nothing superior about Broxburn as well I know. There are some facts and data which are unarguable and other statistics that can be interpreted I also agree. I would very much like to see Celtic in the CL and if unable to get there the Europa league knockout stages. preferably the CL. To get to CL we need to build a team and system allows us to be competitive. Build is the operative word. It will take time. Delia may be the person who can do this we shall see and he better hurry up

Andy
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

You are supposed to write something after a hash-tag. for example #wheeshtmonti

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

That depends on who I am talking to I suppose and how complex the debate is.
For yersel I might just break out some crayons and dispense with words altogether.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

” Talking to “?
Interesting tone….

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

What! is it shiny interesting information?

mike
8 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

Andybhoy,

There is no interesting information, i was just stirring the pot for some kind of reaction and adding a wee bit of humour,against myself as much as anybody.
Anyway even if there was, i certainly wouldnt post it on here.

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

mike

It was a response to your respondee who ‘gleamed’ a great deal of information, rather than gleaned.

mike
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

Andybhoy,

I new there was something about you that i liked,btw i for one am happy for my grammer to be corrected, as for the respondee,well i have upset him enough today.
Someone elses turn tomorrow.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

@andybhoy That is called a typo if you look down at your keyboard you will notice that the letters n and m sit side by side.
Pedantry is not a nice character trait by the way.
It’s right up there with folk who are nosey and take liberties with personal information.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

@Mike So in effect you were shite stirring thinking it would wind me up?
For that to happen Mike you have to have some sort of relevance in my life.
Well I categorically assure you that you don’t.
All you have achieved is showing your own arse for what you are.
My posts will retain as much fact and information as I see fit regardless of what you think.

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

Being pedantic is better than being an arsehole of the highest order.
As for personal info? You are the dipshit that puts it out there.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

@Andybhoy A pedant and an arsehole are two cheeks of the same bottom.
My personal info is my business if I choose to share it then I choose to share it.

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

As I said, you shouldn’t plaster it all over the internet for all and sundry.
At least I don’t revert to porkies and playing the victim card. Eh!

Monti
8 years ago

Kris Commons isn’t for sale because he isn’t shite!
Ambrose is for sale because he is shite!

Simple game this football!

bgbhoy
8 years ago

watched lubo a gift from god last night!! oh how far we have fallen!!!!

Doc
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

2nd favourite Celtic video (5-1 is my favourite). Best Lubo moment:
Interviewer “you’ve went from zero to hero”
Lubo “I was never a zero”.

Monti
8 years ago

Caption: Deila, Collins and Keane ( not smiling)

They have just heard someone cracking a ‘ joke ‘ about Pavel Srnicek!!

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago

If Commons was as good as some seem to think he is bids would have been put in several times by now in the past 3 years.
If the Efe/Eriksson interest is fact then what does that say about those who have been panning him for all these years?

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

1) You would not be aware if the club has had any bids for Commons.
2) Commons has given the club great service and value over his years at Celtic, only costing £400,000.
3) Commons has been regarded as our best attacking midfield player over the last three years.
4) Sven Goran Eriksson is managing in China for a reason.
5) Awfy Ambrose is a Circus clown of the highest order.

6) you are unstable!

bgbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

commons was offered the chance to go back to the championship 3 times in the last 4 years!! not interested!! can we not give a guy some credit that has served us well, scoring some major goals and shows affection for the club??

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

bgbhoy,
Charlie Saiz is unstable…

Nurse Ratched, my meds??

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Here we have another fine example of trolling on here.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Donny? Please.

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

Hear,hear, well said bg.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

He came from the Championship for a fee of £300k.
He has been an integral part of our success over the past 4 years and a bargain at that price.
But the fact no top flight Club has come in and made a serious offer in the millions just confirms my own feelings on the matter.
He’s overrated.

bgbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

overrated? wow, so you cream over ronnys average managerial record yet you believe commons is over rated? i forgot to add the screamer agaisnt sevco last season? this guy changes games for the better, scoring goals at all levels of the game yet he is over rated? i would suggest he is under rated!!!!

Chris McC
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Wouldn’t say overrated but maybe his time is up, great servant over the last number of years but would rather see, Rogic or Allen or even Nesbitt given a chance! basically the future!

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Chris McC

I agree he may well go on to have a role at Celtic after he retires but time has caught up and these young guys offer an energy and freshnesh he lacks now.

Andy
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

Aye I suppose we should show some respect. Now if you all go to the next home game and show the club and players the respect you are talking about us showing Commons instead of groaning and moaning through the game I’ll actually show Monti some respect.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Andy

Trolling….

Monti
8 years ago

” There is nothing more deceptive,than an obvious fact” – Arthur Conan Doyle.

Big Shuggy
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Arthur was a hun

bgbhoy
8 years ago

kris commons imorotant goals off the top of my head- 1-rangers 2-2 scottish cup 2)celtic 3-0 rangers 2011 3) celtic 3-0 rangers 2012 4) celtic 2-1 spartak (last 16 qualification) 5)celtic3-0 shaktar kharangandy and so on….. bigger impact that ronny

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

To be fair Ronny’s not kicked a ball for Celtic yet.

bgbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

i was comparing your feelings of praise for the manager to how you talk about commons!! commons has been more improtant for the club over the years than the manager has!

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

Indeed but since Ronny’s only been here 18 month so it’s a weebit early to be comparing impacts bg don’t you think?
2 trophies in one Season will do as a start though.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

So 18 months isn’t long enough for the support to judge where the club is going? Pish.
The reality is, Celtic should be a lot further down the road than we are.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

@Monti So do you just ignore the loss of Denaayer and Van Dijk, the injuries to Mulgrew Lustig Jozo Janko Bown Johansen and Commons?
Do you also ignore the poor form of Brown Lustig Johansen Armstrong and Ciftci?
I don’t I take all of these things into consideration before I make my mind up because I know that’s a helluva list of problems facing a Manager going into critical and tough early season ties in Europe.
Deila has to after all.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Or indeed managed….

mike
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Charlie Saiz,

Interesting point that, Ronny hasnt kicked a ball yet,my own beleif is that,that is one reason for his lack of respect from the senior players, the fact i know you will correct me if im wrong, that his playing career was somewhat limited.
Perhaps a pointer to his picking young inexperianced players rather than the older ones and please do not mention the special one.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

You don’t get a response Mike sorry.

mike
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Charlie Saiz,

WOW, no apologies required Charlie.
So i do have a relevance,must have to get that reaction.
It was only my attempt at a humerous mainly self depreciating post to get the juices flowing early doors.
Common te feck Charlie dinny go in the feckin huff.Ill no sleep the night, a promise ill not do it again.
Everyone says that you should never go to bed if youv had a bad word beforehand.
Common Irene oh common Irene.

bgbhoy
8 years ago

out of 5 tournamnets in just over a year in europe, and bottom of the europa!! theres your impact!!!!

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

Europe will be forever the stick to beat Deila with.
Pace,laziness,poor control will always be the stick to beat Commons with.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Poor judgement, lacking in game intelligence, poor distribution, poor control and weak in defensive situations….the stick to beat Awfy Ambrose!

bgbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

who needs pace when you can stick it in the top bag from 35 yards?

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

You certainly need it when your first touch let’s you down and the opposing player fuck off with the ball.
Or when the other team breaks from defence and you have to go with them.
Just like the Manager and team requires you to.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Just pish…..

Bgbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

I don’t even think you believe yourself. Your making an arse of yourself as you can’t admit you got it wrong!! How dare you slag a guy that has gave us 4 years service scoring massive goals and loving the club!!

Plumsaucesaurus
8 years ago

Where are Rangers now?

-Ronny Deila

Monti
8 years ago

” Judge me in Europe ” – Ronny Deila.

Monti
8 years ago

Plum,
Why was Deila talking about them?
He should concentrate on Celtic, on tightening our sieve like defence, on working with the midfielders to raise the standard of play when on possession!

maryhillbhoy
8 years ago

Charlie Saiz Commons may not be as good as some contributors here think he is but he is far too good not to get a game in our current squad, or a game stuck out wide where his limitations are highlighted and his strengths largely nullified.

Bgbhoy with reference to your posts I would doubt if Lubo earned 15 grand a week for the vast majority of his career (pre celtic) and we know the genius that he was, I would suggest we try to remember that outside of England £60,000 a month goes a long long way and that a huge number of players would be delighted to sign for that. Including I suspect most of the players who have thrashed us this season in European competition

bgbhoy
8 years ago

ok lads, so heres a stat for you… john barnes win ration 65.9% and ronny deila 64%!! so we should of showed more patience with mr barnes then charlie??

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

John Barnes 29 games Won 19 Drew 2 Lost 8
Trophies Won 0
Ronny Deila 95 games Won 61 Drew 18 Lost 16
Trophies won 2
1 League Title
1 League Cup

One has a clear vision of where he wanted us to go the other played for Liverpool and rapped -badly.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Fucking hell…..

Devoy45
8 years ago

I disagree with Charlie Saiz about Commons.
I disagree with Monti about Ambrose.
We need both players for now. Er, umm, Ambrose is the best proven defender we have at the moment! Everybody will agree that we need Charlie Saiz’ stats on this forum. Charlie Saiz puts me in mind of the great Irish-American politician Al Smith: “Let’s just look at the record…” or Lincoln: “Let the people know the facts and the country will be saved…” bgbhoy: that is also an amazing statistic. However, Ronny won two trophies in one year and Barnes was losing the plot fast…he was sacked because he was a poor manager without any experience and without any trophies…statistic. Ronny won two trophies, Barnes won none. Some statistics are more important than others!

bgbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Devoy45

devoy he was sacked 8 days before a league cup semi final which he may have delivered? his inverness game was ronnys warsaw or maribor!? we also played better more attacking football!! my point is charlie throws stats at us… well theres a stat for you!!!

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Devoy45

WHAT THE FUCK???

bgbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

yes?

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

That WTF was to Devoy!

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Devoy45

Devoy,
Do not include me in the ” everybody needs Charlie Saiz’s stats” please.
It is deflection at it’s finest.
Deila is a clown!

gavdirect
8 years ago

Gordon Strachan’s win ratio is 65% and he’s was regarded successful! Lots of other previous managers a lot less win ratio also! Just saying!

Doc
8 years ago
Reply to  gavdirect

Win ratios:
Muhammad Ali 91%
Tyson Fury 100%

Don’t think anyone would say Fury is better than Ali. Win ratios are misleading without taking the level/standard of opponents into account.

andybhoy
8 years ago

Statistics are like women, mirrors of purest virtue and truth,
or like whores to use as one pleases. Theodor Billroth

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

I worked in Holland for a year…..:)

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Where?

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

I lived in a place called ‘ NUTH ‘ on the border with Belgium, worked in a place called ‘ Venlo’!

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

So you could get out your Nuth on the Venio!!!

mike
8 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

Domestic Goddesess in the hoose and whores in the bedroom,a bit like Nigella and Raquel.

Grrrrrrrrrrrr.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  mike

Nigella is the perfect woman, tall, cooks and the most important thing of all, aesthetically pleasing to view.

Definitely would!

mike
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

My position on that is a yes to any position.

Monti, please speak to cherlie hes away in the huff with me and a canny stand the suspenders.

Common Charlie please release me let me go for you dont love me anymore, for i have sinned and been a shit so please release me and ill let you have first hit.

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

She’s a durty.

Monti
8 years ago

Please be true that Ambrose is on the way out….

torrancetimebomb
8 years ago

does out with the d and in with the new apply to Ronnie ralph??

torrancetimebomb
8 years ago

feckin stupid phone,
start again, does out with the old and in with the new apply to Ronnie ralph??
that’s better

Thewildgoose
8 years ago

There are lies, damned lies and statistics which can be used to support any argument. Commons can play well maybe 1 game in 5 now and for me I’d rather see Alan or Christie get a run in the team. I’d also like to see a change in formation cause in theory the 4-2-3-1 sounds good but for some reason its just not working for me. Is it beyond our players to play in this formation or have other teams just figured out how to play against us? Why don’t we try the 3-5-2 formation MON used when he first came, 3 central defenders would give us more cover when teams break against us, we could keep 5 in midfield and of course find a partner for Griff.

Devoy45
8 years ago

Stats? Our most troubling stat of the last twenty years was that Tommy Burns’ team once lost only one match but didn’t win the league and we all love Tommy. Stats are useful but not the whole picture. Give us the stats and we can make our own minds up. Just saying, Charlie Saiz’ stats often make me feel a bit more confident about where we are now and where we can go from here: onwards and upwards. Sometimes, good stats cut right through all the panic and gnashing of teeth and ease our troubled minds! Nurse, my meds please.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Devoy45

Bang on and there has been plenty foaming and gnashing in here hence the need to produce some fact among the madness.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Some facts would be fine, but repeating yourself over and over again to people who are more educated in the game is ridiculous!
Your only defence of Deila is based on how many free kicks and corners we get?
Listen son, I and many thousands of others know the game, Deila is shite and is bang in the middle of proving it.

Now go and read Wikipedia to get some answers.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Here’s a fact-I am 4 years your senior.
Here’s another “but repeating yourself over and over again to people who are more educated in the game is ridiculous!”
You need help go see a doctor.
Think you will find my defence of the Manager has been on:
His Philosophy
His Attitude to the Media
His success on the Domestic front despite altering the entire approach to fitness,formation and tactics.
The fact 1 up has had absolutley no affect on the goal average over a 10 year period despite the lower standard of player at the Club
The severe problems affecting the defence going into the season through players leaving,injuries,bedding in new players and loss of form of key men.
None of it is based on delusion,Fifa or the shite you read on line and in the papers.
Son.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

But I don’t buy or read the ‘ papers ‘ you fuckwit!

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Devoy45

Devoy,
Are you for real?
You need stats from a control freak to give you a sense of wellbeing?

Do you think the guys who are going to the games are all sitting there discussing stats?

Fuck sake min!

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Bwahahaha, just choked on my hot chocolate… it came oot ma feckin nose.

celtsfan67
8 years ago

God bless Tommy Burns

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  celtsfan67

AMEN!!

Honest Hoops
8 years ago

There is a cracking team waiting to be developed but unfortunately not under the current management as they all lack the know how….maybe dangle a carrot in front of Rodgers to develop and get us into the CL!! Just a thought!!!

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Honest Hoops

“One thing about Ronny is that he has a good track record of getting the best out of young talent and this is probably the right time for Kristoffer(Ajer) to think of going to the next level. Ronny is the kind of manager who can get the best out of him without putting him under too much pressure. He is sensible that way. It is also probably good for the player now to have a different challenge although I do know that there has been strong interest from Rosenburg too.” Vidar Riseth

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

” Deila is fucking useless ” – Monti.

Bgbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Vidal riseth? That stalwart of European football

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Honest Hoops

Well said Honest Hoops,
There is the makings of a good squad at the park, but Deila needs to stay away from them!

Honest Hoops
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

I’ve listened to long now with his ramblings, he should have had it all in place by now, cheers Monti…

Bgbhoy
8 years ago

100% correct

Broxburnbhoy
8 years ago

In God we trust, everybody else bring data.

Devoy45
8 years ago

I have a technical question for all of youse. Forget Deila for now. Given a 4-2-3-1 setup what do you think is the best team we can put out right now, allowing for injuries? Here’s mine:
Gordon
Lustig/Ambrose/Simunovic/Tierney
Bitton/Rogic
Forrest/Commons/McGregor
Griffiths
I would like to see Allan play, Janko when fit and Nesbitt. Give Stokes one last chance to reclaim a place. Bailly should be given some match time. Here’s how I would go 4-4-2.
Gordon
Lustig/Ambrose/Simunovic/Tierney
Forrest/Bitton/Rogic/Commons
Griffiths/Ciftci

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Devoy45

Devoy,
I will only answer the 4-4-2 part of your question mate, playing one up front goes against my thought process, so I won’t dignify it by picking a team for it!

This would be my team for Sunday, based on 4-4-2.

Bailly
Lustig
Simunovic
Izaguirre
Tierney

Forrest
Bitton
Johansen
Commons

Griffiths
Ciftci

I wouldn’t normally consider Izzy for central defence, but with his experience and ability, he should be able to cope for 90 mins against Stranraer!

delbhoy
8 years ago

Yeah ronny will get the best out of this boy like he has allan , gms and armstrong. He has really took there game to the next level

Monti
8 years ago

Location: Hoops bar, Gallowgate, post match v Motherwell.

Peter- ” Fuck it let’s go and have a few pints and speak at length about the Stats from today’s 1-2 defeat at home to Motherwell”

Paul- ” spiffing, I tell you what old chap, didn’t we have a lot of free kicks today, what?, 43 shots at goal, 4 on target and 23 corners, all cleared, that was more than the corresponding fixture last year old boy, clear progress, what”?

Barman- ” What was the score today Bhoys “?

Peter and Paul ” 1-2 to Motherwell ”

Barman – ” ach, as long as the stats are better than the corresponding fixture last year, progress must be being made ”

Q silence and Duke box goes off!

charlie
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

fuck me kid you dont know the galloagate

charlie
8 years ago
Reply to  charlie

monti do you come from newton mearns

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  charlie

Nope!

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  charlie

Oh yes I do my friend, regular in Baird’s on European nights before it closed a while back, Strachan head, the welcome Inn and the Hoops bar.
Nip along the road a bit too wee man’s before Paradise!!

OOH AAH….

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Saracens head!!

charlie
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

bairds is shut kid causea grasases

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Baird’s was a great pub mate, do you think it’ll ever open again?

delbhoy
8 years ago

Devoy i would play mckay steven on the left and forrest on the right with griff through the middle. In midfield i would have allan beside brown in the middle of the park with commons in front of them. Could also have brown and armstrong in midfield with commons or allan in front. Defence would be simonovic , mulgrew, teirney and lustig tho lustig doesnt look great these days maybe young wardrop could get a chance at right back. This line up is based on ronnys formation and everyone being fit.

charlie
8 years ago
Reply to  delbhoy

delbhoy its worth a try mate but ffs sake ronny is the mug who is gonny get the shit if t dont work stickby ronny and we wll get what wewant excuse maspelln ime drinkin but dont tell thesweeetywifes

charlie
8 years ago

aw this pattewr about spending other guys money is another childlike situation ime a 59 yr old scaffolder a do the kiddn on noo and ma bhhoys dae the shift but if a put ma haun in their pockets i would get what i would deserve a good fuckin slap COYBIG

charlie
8 years ago

monti ive liked your part in this gabbin show kid but my fuck you are starting to sound hunlike hail hail if your a tim kiss ma arse if you are sevconian ha ha ha ha ime either laughing with you or at you get it

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  charlie

No!

8 years ago

🙁

8 years ago

It’s so obvious when you think on it do ( instead of a ) 🙂 🙁

charlie
8 years ago

monti as a tim i like your agressive style mate but tims gie other tims the benifit of the doubt and slaggin another fenian is hun like mate COYBIG

charlie
8 years ago

ma bhoy sais mon we will go doon the halls of shiteness we will tell trhem we are drawing cabbage for the dave dafties and the fenians will have a weekend drinking but dont tell the temperence dafties theywll phone the polis no sweety wifes n our fenian house ask yer da

charlie
8 years ago

and if you think me drinkn you would be right but if iits your biznis kid i pity you

charlie
8 years ago

ime born n brgton baptised n st marys and luv the celtic every day i come oot ma door and see paradise and its about the guys that came before me thats celtic if you dont get that you should have been a zombbie

charlie
8 years ago

montie if your a tim crowdfund james doleman mate

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  charlie

“IF”?

charlie
8 years ago

there wll be some guys on here who remember green door cards and god blessun

iancelt59
8 years ago

Pidgeon english now ? Are we in papua new guinea? Lol only joking charlie, im a lazy writer too.

Hard to comment too much until transfer window deals done. In fairness every preceding coach has bought a dud for each useful player, so i hope there will be lessons learned.

Samaras no? Never go back. Love to see an argentine or uruguyan striker . Something different a player with skill. Possibly a jap or korean good fot marketing.

Maybe look too eastern europe. Someone out there will be a good fit for the scottish game

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