Celtic Diary Friday November 27: Reality Realised

So, another European campaign comes to an end, and we begin to look around for scapegoats, because after all, we are Celtic, the biggest club in the world, and we have a divine right to be on the big stage.

Right ?

Wrong.

The 2-1 defeat to ajax last night, a game which actually saw a wee bit of fight in the players, and not a little talent, ended a campaign which had started fairly brightly, but fell away a bit in the double header against Molde. Well, fell away a lot in the double header against Molde.

With the first team ravaged by injury and suspension, it fell to the fringe lads to make a name for themselves, and when Calum MacGregor, who most of us had forgotten about, was handed a start, a collective groan went around the support, and yet he more than justified his place with a third minute goal that set the nerves jangling.

Surprised ? Yeah, I was.

And when Celtic went more than five minutes after the goal without conceding, I began to think that there was a chance of a win, but Dedryck Boyata decided to stick a lazy  foot out instead of attacking the ball -and player -with his head , and Ajax had equalised.

As the game progressed, however, one or two things became evident.

Manager Ronny Deila had altered his usual formation to a sort of 4-3-3, with Forrest and Mackay Steven flanking Leigh Griffiths. Calum Macgregor was holding back with Tom Rogic, with Stuart Armstrong a little further forward.

Then it was swapped around a bit.

So, the manager does have a plan B, which he isn’t afraid to implement during a game.

It nearly worked.

Individual decisions on the park turned out largely to be the wrong ones. Griffiths shooting instead of passing, sometimes the wrong pass to the wrong player. But that is football.

You have a split second to decide what to do with the ball, and if you get it right you are a hero and get a move to Southampton, and if you get it wrong, you are a diddy who probably isn’t a Celtic supporter anyway.

On such decisions games are decided.

We got most of them wrong, as it turns out. The benefit of hindsight is no benefit at all, but you can learn from it.

In last nights line up there were several players who looked like they were learning, maybe not quick enough for some, but learning nonetheless.

And by the time the final whistle went, I felt that there was the beginnings of a very good side in there.

You just had to look a wee bit harder to see it.

Man by man, there were more positives than negatives.

Craig Gordon looked a little more assured than of late. his handling, positioning and distribution were of a much better standard, and although it could be argued he could have done better with the dutch sides winner, he was in that horrible no mans land where he had to cover both the near post shot and the square pass across the goal. In the end, it looks like he just sat down and thought “aw fuck it ” .

But I can’t blame him for the goal, because it was caused by another of those wrong decisions…and perhaps a lack of communication.

Stuart Armstrong has to take a late corner. Everyone is up for it, so ordinarily you’d expect a punt into the box, and hope someone gets a head to it, or a foot to it in a scramble.

However, Scott Allan is unmarked-at this point-on the edge of the box.

Armstrong lays it to him, he takes a moment too long to steady himself, and no-one had made him aware that there was a “man on ” .

Ajax break away and score.

No, with hindsight, the decision to play in allan was wrong, but had he got the shot away and scored, Armstrong would have been hailed as a visionary.

Thats football.

So I can’t really blame Gordon for failing to stop the winning goal.

At full back we had a man who looks like Mikael Lustig, but isn’t playing like him. Too often last night he looked sluggish, and ajax saw him as a weak link. although he was often outnumbered and recieved little cover from Dedryck Boyata. Either he is carrying an injury or he’slost the eye of the tiger.

Which brings me to Boyata. Can’t help but think he should have done better for Ajax’s first, that timidity we don’t want to see in a defender was there again when he failed to challenge for the ball as it looped over Gordon, but apart from that, and a confusing header into touch when there was no-one near him-communication again ?-he looked a lot more composed than of late.

Perhaps that was down to Jozo Simunovic, and don’t you wish he and Boyata had been in from the start ? This boy will be  the real deal. If you don’t count the occasional pass after a confident run from defence. Still not at his best, but when he settles we will realise what we’ve got here.

Keiran Tierney was outstanding again. Proof that there is a back up operation in place if we needed one, and we do, because not only are we not going to spend money on big name players for big wages, those players we would like will not come to play in glasgow where it’s dark, wet and cold for most of the season when they can get better money elsewhere.

Even Newcastle and Sunderland, paying what they do, can’t attract real big names.

So what chance have we ?

When he was replaced by Emilio Izaguirre, he looked knackered, and hopefully Ronny will continue to introduce him to the first team steadily, and keep his feet on the ground. Not only is he an inspiration to other youngsters waiting for their shot, he is showing the old guard what is coming to take their places…

The likes of Tierney are the future. And I’m happy with that.

For a glimpse of what Celtic will be like in two or three years, if they stick with the plan, have a look at the development squad in their European tournament. They made the last 32 last week….

Calum Macgregor, the surprise choice in the side, took just three minutes to do what he does in European games. Break forward and score. He almost had a second when his deflected shot hit the bar in the closing stages, but as i said ealier, he justified his inclusion with a hard working shift, and can be pleased that he has reminded us that he’s still here.

Tom Rogic started well in the holding position, then he was moved forward, but never recovered from a nasty blow to his shoulder. He , too, was unlucky not to score when he got on the end of a square ball in the box but saw his effort saved. He looked like he was beginning to have an influence on the game until he took that knock, and after twenty minutes of the second half was replaced by Charlie Mulgrew.

He didn’t do too badly either, but lack of match fitness showed, and after ajax scored, he remembered he’d left the kids in the car, and turned and walked off.

Chris Sutton, clearly suffering from amnesia, commented that he wasn’t having that, claiming Mulgrew could have “gone up top and made a nuisance of himself ” , a bit like he did , i suppose, when he slapped the ball out of the air at Ibrox and got himself sent off.

Bearing that in mind, suttons impassioned rant after the game kind of loses it’s edge.

Mulgrew himself, bewildered by claims he had chucked it, posted on instagram, whatever that is;

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Ronny backed him up, but I’m still unconvinced.

Bertie auld once stayed on with a broken collar bone, so he could repay Nobby Stiles for doing it to him.

I’m not advocating injuring opponents, but thats the kind of spirit we want to see, not “oh no,  my leg is hurting , run me a bath. ”

As far as I’m concerned, unless an opponent has ripped your leg off and hit you over the head with it, you stay on that pitch. In fact, if he has ripped your leg off and hit you with it, then pick it up and hit him back.

Stuart Armstrong did his bit in the middle, cannot fault his effort, although he maybe needs to be a wee bit more thoughtful about his game, and perhaps work a little smarter. The ball will always move quicker than the player, and there is a lot to be said about anticipating where it is going, as opposed to just running after it like a dog chasing a bin bag in the street.

He’ll learn that, though, and for his first European campaign, he has little to be ashamed of.

Gary Mackay Steven seemed to get a lot of stick for his performance, and yet I can’t see why. He, too, ran his socks off. He too, fought for the ball, and he wasnt afraid to take players on. Had Leigh Griffiths spotted his run and squared the ball to him in the second half, he was enough space to finish the move off.

Decisions and communication again….

I hope that Mackay Steven watches a rerun of the game and takes heart from it. Eventually, he tired, and Scott Allan entered the fray.

Again, it’s evident theres a player in there somewhere. a very good player, who made one pass to Griffiths that could have made bith players instant legends. Well, maybe not legends , but you get the point.

He split the defence, Griffiths was on it in a flash, and his low, controlled shot, hit the keepers foot and went out for a corner.

If these two can work together in the simplest of ways-Allan passes into space, Griffiths runs into space, then we have solved the creativity problem.

Especially as James Forrest is there to offer another option.

Forrest, for me, was the man of the match last night. Not only for his running and dribbling, but for the way in which he would leap between the opposition player and the ball, with his back to him, and simply take the ball away.

If you think I am talking out of my arse here, wait till you get to the bit about the manager ….

Bizarrely, he , too, got a lot of flak for his contribution lat night, and I’m struggling to see why.

The same goes for Leigh Griffiths.

It just wasn’t his night. Thats all.

Sure, he could have scored a couple, a couple that he would normally tuck away without thinking about it, but last night, if i have any criticism of him, it’s mild, and it’s that he seemed to get a little frustrated and perhaps tried a bit too hard.

With European experience, and mind, this is his first real run in the side at this level, he will become sharper, and his decsion making, not at his best last night, will improve. If you remember, he wasn’t included early on because it was felt that Ciftci needed game time.

What we need to remember about Griffiths is that he made space for himself, and got on the end of those chances. If he keeps doing that , then the goals will come.

So, on to the manager..

And I suppose we might as well include the board in this one as well.

Social media was alive last night with claims that the board, the manager, all the coaching staff, the nedical staff and that bloke who sells the paradise windfall tickets but never says thank you should all be sacked.

Oh. please.

Get a grip.

This is where reality comes in to things.

Lets do a wee practical exercise here.

Come on.

Somewhere near you there will be a car showroom that sells Maserati’s, Lambhorghinis , Bentley’s and so on.

Go into it.

Tell the salesman you want one. and then tell him what you can afford to pay him.

It’s not going to happen, is it ?

This car showroom is in a town called Realworld. and it’s also where Celtic play their football.

Ronny Deila has been deemed, rightly or wrongly, as the man who will nuruture his own Celtic team, based around a policy of buying in young, promising players, and turning them into Champions League quality.

Thats some task if you look at it. But someone, somewhere is making these players, and as we can’t afford to buy the Bentley, we’ll have to get the Vauxhall, and customize it a little.

So we get the guy who has a knack for improving players.

And yet there are calls for him to be sacked just as he starts to get that plan into shape.

You may have noticed a lot of our new players, and the best of our others, are now on long term contracts.

I believe that the core of the future Celtic, that is next years team, was on the field at some point or other last night.

It’s all very well calling for perennial loser and unemployed again Davie Moyes to take the job, but when you look at it , and look at it properly, he hasn’t done a single thing to justify the appointment.

Oh, wait. He got Everton into the champions league once.

Well, send a fucking car to his house and pick him up.

The board too, come under criticism for failing to invest in the team,

Here’s another piece of reality.

Players do not want to come to Celtic , we don’t pay well enough, and we are not gong to change that anytime soon.

Why ?

Firstly, we haven;’t got the money, and secondly, even if we did spend it, there’s no guarantee we’d get value for money.

Far better to make our own, and at least then we will have players who want to play for Celtic, and who won’t sod off at the first phone call from Southampton.

Remember, with the possible exception of Joe Ledley, all of the players who have left recently, wanted to go.

I’ll say that again.

They wanted to go

So it’s a bit harsh to blame the board for selling them, especially as the only reason they came in the first place was to gain European experience and put themselves in the shop window.

All the suits can do is get as much money as possible for them.

After losing the consistency that comes with a team learning and growing together when it’s repeatedly broken up as players move south , which has happened a lot over the last few years, maybe the board sat down and thought they’ve had enough of getting the blame for selling players who, as I said before, were always going to go as soon as someone offered to double their wages and put a nice big signing on fee into their accounts.

There’s that reality thing again.

 

Until there are changes in the way television and European money is filtered into the game, we’re stuck with the current model. It might mean taking a step back to take two forward, but when you look at the bigger picture, thats what we have to do.

We need to realise that, and get behind what the manager is working on.

It takes time to build a team, and we have the right man to do that.

It’s been said that we are the best supporters in the world.

The time is here for us to prove that.

I believe the phrase you are looking for is “Keep the Faith ”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Camberwick_Green
4 years ago

Good call.
KTF.

John Mccloy in tasmania
4 years ago

Ralph,talking of playing on while injured I remember seeing one of the brogan brothers,cant remember which one (early sixties) getting an arm broken and finishing the game on the wing.HH

deadhead67
4 years ago

yeah no subs in those day,s

Londonbhoy
4 years ago

Very calm diary today, I must say I was absolutely foaming at the mouth last night, but woke up with an acceptance that it may well be better next year with the progress I’ve seen. I don’t see anyone in the squad who actively wants to go to England any time soon. Onwards to the treble! HH

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Londonbhoy

London,
You must be on PCP.

I’m away to lie in a darkened room and listen to some Marillion and Morissey albums.

It seems right….

bob
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

It won’t be to work anyway

deadhead67
4 years ago
Reply to  Londonbhoy

did you take several acid tabs before you wen,t to bed

4 years ago

Well you complimented Gordon on his positioning really beat at his near post again and from 25 yards give me a break Gordon needs a rest now mcgregor I don’t want to be to critical of him bit the first goal he’s in the most crucial areas of the park and he can’t win a 50 50 ball that’s sums celtic up for me no bottle again you mention decision making cumunication wrong passes but this has been happening all season and no lessons learned why something must change and now

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  drewster

Lustig flapped on the first goal he gave a pass to McGregor that was never on and as a result McGregors touch was poor.

dziekanowski's nightclub child
4 years ago

I want the manager to do well and I want the team to do well. My problem is that Ronny spoke of a team who would control the ball in European games, where is it? If the players are not good enough then work on their first touch and movement; I don’t see it, the first touch is generally terrible (Ajax 1st goal), movement and passing is poor, passes forward are either at the player or behind him, not in front to run on to which slows momentum of the attack and allows the defending team to get into position. last night most of the players looked dead on their feet with 15 to go due to the fact we could not control possession of the ball and spent the whole game chasing.

Gerry
4 years ago

100% spot on.

dziekanowski's nightclub child
4 years ago

PS. Mackay Steven is going to get himself injured because of the way he pulls out of 50/50 balls.

andybhoy
4 years ago

So the downward spiral continues and we just have to suck it up, while those jolly characters on the board and particularly Mr Lawwell, pay themselves record amounts for failing. Makes sense doesn’t it?

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

Andybhoy,
Can you believe some are seeing positives from this shambles….

bgbhoy
4 years ago

10 games without a win in europa league, i cannot see any progress, hes asked to be judged on europe and the majority of fans are doing that

2 points from 6 games this will fjnish, he cannot be given any more time

bgbhoy
4 years ago

londonbhoy what progress is there? there will be no ucl buying players from dundee utd.. maybe if the manager was in the mould of jock or clough but not this guy… he cannot organise coaching of the defence… 10 games without a win is the worst record in celtics history its got to be? there is no progress and he has to go

patrickqu
4 years ago

Very well put, Ralph. Unfortunately you will be in for a bucketful when all the usual come online to call for Ronnie’s head. Keep the Faith as you say.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  patrickqu

Patrick,
Are you having a laugh?

Paolo
4 years ago

Not a lot I can deny you in that, especially where shopping for a manager/players are concerned. Moyes would be up there along with Barnes/Mowbray as far as I am concerned; what exactly has he done to make anyone think he’s the next Messiah?

Ronnie isn’t perfect but nor is he dreadful. He’s making up a team of younger players many of whom are home grown talent.

What happened the last time a Celtic manager did that?

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Paolo

Paolo,
The only thing he is making is a mess, as for asking what Moyes has done, did you first start watching football when Moyes took over at Old Trafford?
Moyes was an outstanding manager who had Everton competing with clubs who had far superior squads and budgets.
There is the evidence, MOYES has done it, he has proved himself and he will come again.
How anyone can slate what Moyes has achieved yet praise Deila is incredible.
There’s even some on here who question Brendan Rodgers, yet the guy was a couple of games away from winning arguably the best league in the world??

What your actually doing here is failing to show evidence how Celtic are ‘ progressing ‘ under Deila….because there is no evidence.

andybhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Spot on M. I seriously think we have plants from the boardroom on here.

marko
4 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

hilarious….

Paul1888
4 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

You lot are nuts!!

Please list Moyes’s achievements?

bob
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Away to work Monti and take your mind off it………..oh wait a minute you DON’T work

bgbhoy
4 years ago

cant believe people are still looking for positives for this guy… what am i seeing? am i looking at different stats or what?

Craigy Bhoy
4 years ago

Deila said: “Compared to last year I don’t see so much progress so far but we are going to be ready next year.

Are we meant to be inspired by that chaps? the man himself has admitted there is not as much progress, the question has to be why and is he the man to lead us there…

Happy Friday folks

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago

We have a rake of good young talent coming through at Celtic right now and the right Manager to guide them through.
Those who want the likes of Moyes at Celtic are not looking at the long term you are looking at a short term fix ie Europe when the strategy at Celtic is obviously building a young squad for the future.
We have some good young players on the fringes now I doubt the likes of Moyes would risk them especially given the reaction of some of our Support.
We are Europa League level side have been for years lack of major investment in the side has seen to that.
You are not going to rock the Champions League buying the likes of Griffiths Armstrong Mackay Stevens and Ciftci anyone who think we will is deluded.
I would rather we built a young team kept it intact for 3-5 years and then see how we compete than buy guys like Van Dijk who sign with one eye on the EPL myself.
We have at least 6 Development Players coming through and the likes of Christie and Henderson to come back.
Young quick fresh players with a bit of ability who can and will be moulded to work as a unit under the right man.
That man is Deila he has the patience for them and will have them playing a better brand of Football.
Ajax are currently building a side the game was fairly even last night they like us were sat at the bottom of the table a late counter attacking goal won them the game it happens.
Their fans seem patient enough knowing their side is going to develop into a good European side in the near future.
That’s Ajax winners of 6 European Trophies.
Surely if their numpty fan base has the patience to wait then so can ours?

corktim
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

WE are all realists we realise we will not be signing messi or his ilk,but in all fairness deila has proved he is not up to it,you adapt your system to the players,not the other way round one upfront is breaking my balls,last night saw griffiths crossing the ball into the box with no-one there,deilas tactics and systems are gash and prove to be not working,if some posters here want to persevere with this bunch who call themselves manager and coaches and make us a laughing stock in euroupe keep faith with deila, but i am not one of those who is happy with mediocrity due to the managers so called tactics,Please go ronnie and leave someone who is qualified for the job drag us out of the mess we are in onfield at the moment .

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  corktim

Corktim,
Best post so far…

4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

“We have a rake of good young talent coming through at Celtic right now and the right Manager to guide them through.”

Where is your proof that we have the right manager to do this?

bogbhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Ralph Malph

lol keep an eye on my bellend ya tit

4 years ago
Reply to  Ralph Malph

Yeah but is Delia managing them?

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Raymobhoy

The proof was on the Park last night.
Lenny would have started AMbrose Mulgrew Izzy and Stokes last night.
Deila went with Tierney Boyata McGregor and Mackay-Steven
We have Fasan Henderson Lindsay O’Connell Nesbitt and Christie to come into the reckoning at Celtic very shortly.
We have Christie and Allan to come into the side and the likes of Bitton,Johansen and Rogic to build round.
I would say Deila a man who has a philosophy of nurturing young talent honed in Norway where he took a young promoted side to National Champions in 4 years has the tools to achieve this.
But no we have clowns on here demanding he be sacked and replaced by a Manager who has been sacked by his last 2 Clubs due to under achievement.

4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

He went with “Tierney Boyata McGregor and Mackay-Steven” because we had injuries and suspensions. Otherwise he would have had Brown Biton and Johansen.
Same old same old.

Spectrum is Green
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Charlie,

It’s all well and good saying ‘look at all the young talent we have waiting to get a chance’ but these guys are going to need a couple of seasons to acclimatise to Euro football, so, we still end up with the manager trotting out the same old excuses of ‘learning curves’ and ‘I saw positives’ when we have another embarrassing Euro campaign.

Our form in Europe this season is awful. Deila talks a good game, he talks a lot of getting ‘minor details’ right. That sounds very hollow coming from a manager who doesn’t appear to grasp the fundamentals of the game, like building your team on a solid defence? The goals we concede are laughable. Ajax’s first goal was so similar to Molde’s second at Celtic Park. But don’t worry, I’m sure that’s just another of Deila’s ‘minor details’ so nothing to worry about there then. Ajax’s winner came from our corner kick! I’m pretty sure the same thing happened over in Molde too. How long ago was that? Four or five weeks ago?

Ronny is not the Messiah – he’s just a Messer.

Keep the (blind) faith.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago

No one is saying he’s the messiah but his plan makes sense.
Jock stein would have struggled with the players at our disposal given the form and injury to key players this season already.
We sit top of the table and in all 3 Competitions.
You want a solid side in Europe then you are going to have to be patient no matter who manages them because right now our signing policy does not factor in building a European class side in an instant.

Monti
4 years ago

He’s not the messiah……he’s Brian….:)

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

DEILA OUT!

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Short term fix yer baws!

bgbhoy
4 years ago

i give up

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

LOL

bgbhoy
4 years ago

ajax havent won it for 20 years…. that model no longer guranteess success, you need someone who can do a bit of both, ronny can do niether.. genuinley shocked that fans are accepting this… i give up commenting on it now because im tarninshed with not being a real supporter etc for nit buying into this guy.. i will sign off with one more sentence….. NO WIN IN 10 GAMES IN EUROPE WHERE IS THE PROGRESS?

marko
4 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

cheerio

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  marko

Bye

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

That ” bye ” was to marko

Michael Annis
4 years ago

We’ll argued and thoughtful piece but have to fundamentally disagree. We have been promised a fitter healthier team with quicker passing football and quicker closing down and we have been promised this over and over. So where is it? We keep getting the same promises from Ronnie that lessons will be learned. If it took my classes this long to learn lessons Id be as well jacking it in. To me Ronnie is a classic BS merchant who, totally out of his depth, talks a good game and produces the opposite. If fans are happy with this so-called progress they are as deluded as Sevco fans, there I’ve said it. We can see before our eyes a deterioration of style, fitness and results and we should accept this? Sorry Celtic are and should be more than this. A good manager, and I don’t care where he comes from, should take what he had and improve them, motivate them and win. We are being humiliated at home FFS, sorry for the language but like many fans I am furious at what is happening on the park and to accept more of the same is deluded nonsense. Rant over…. till the next time.

marko
4 years ago
Reply to  Michael Annis

i wasn’t humiliated watching that match last night…getting caught by a sucker punch at 1-1 as you try and push for winner knowing a draw means you’re out …humiliating?

andybhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  marko

2 points from 5 games and likely to be 2 from 6 games = humiliating.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

Absolutely!

marko
4 years ago

A lot of sense in this post…sure it wasn’t a great Euro campaign but there were some positives to be taken from last night. Jozo-was impressed by him, Scott Allan looked like has the talent to develop into a player for us…we were unlucky to lose that second goal, on another night we would have won…i am keeping the faith…gutted to lose but keeping believing…

bgbhoy
4 years ago

done commenting on the manager marko not away from the site… and i have every right given the money spent on amsterdam and the fact im going to instanbul in 2 weeks so dont be sitting there thinking im some sort of glory hunter… when you spend so much on something and you get no enjoyment from it or there is a problem with it are you not allowed to complain????

marko
4 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

and your solution is-get rid of Ronny? To bring in who? Isn’t going to change the financial reality of the situation…I am not happy at getting beat…but I haven’t given up on the manager yet…

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  marko

David Moyes or Brendan Rodgers.

bob
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Or on to the dole?

Run Sammy Run
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

What about if we hang on till the end of the season and get Mourinho,? Benitez might be available soon as well or we can try And beat Real to Hiddink.

Paul1888
4 years ago
Reply to  Run Sammy Run

Fuck that lets go all out and get Pep

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Run Sammy Run

Oh I see, ok let’s stick with RD…. because he’s gid eh?
Nnnnnnnnnnnttttttttttttt

jrw
4 years ago

Totally agree Ralph. I didn’t think we deserved to lose last night, but didn’t do enough to win. There were too mnay poor decisions and a tendency to get muscled off the ball at times plus the usual failure to clear our lines that led to their first goal. Tierney once again was our best player and Simunovic looks the part, so there are a few crumbs of comfort – just! It is worth noting that there were seven Scots in the starting eleven – can’t recall the last time we had that in a European match.

BJF
4 years ago

good sensible diary Ralph.I wasn’t as angry last night as i was after the Molde debacle. Gordon has begun to recover his form, could Niel lennon believe Forrest’s defensive cover, McGregor,Armstrong(apart from the pass to Allan), Tierney (as ever) and the centre halves had a a decent game. howvere i am thinking about the points guys made about Boyata leaving Lustig without cover. maybe a lot more needed form him. Griffiths had one of his worst games, always seemed to make the wrong decison. We cannot legislate for him and Lustig having a bad game.
Moyes isn’t the man for Celtic a she wasn’t for Man u or Real Sociadad, I suppose we must perserve with Ronnie until the end of the season,i just don’t see the progress but it was never going to happen in 2 years anyway.
Ralph you are spot on Ki, Wanyama,Forster,Hooper, Virgil all wanted to leave what is virtually a pub league except us.
If we could persuade a striker of real class to finish his career with us, no not Carlton Cole, a real one, then that might give us the one thing we miss a real top finisher with experience.
Last night more fight, some good young players coming through,is it enough after 2 years?

Greg
4 years ago

The thing I was most disappointed with this morning is the absolute crap you hear from other ‘supporters’. The diary today has hit the nail on the absolute head, in the grand scheme of things we are where we are, the options available to us to make progress in Europe are limited to implementing a plan that Ronny is trying to do. People need to wise up and get back to supporting the club and look forward to a brighter future. Hail Hail

andybhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Greg

So it’s crap because you see things differently.
The plan is grand, but the guy trying to implement it is hopeless.

Althetim
4 years ago

Sorry Ralph, but your article is a load of sbite. Celtic are going backwards at an alarming rate. We have been cuffed by Malmo, Maribor & Legia Warsaw. Our playing staff budget is probably greater than those three combined. 4 of our 8 wins in Europe under Ronny have been against Icelandic opposition, two more were against the totally unheard of Astra and Qarabag, the Malmo win at Celtic Park ultimately counted for nothing which leaves the victory against Dynamo Zagreb as the only credible success we’ve had. It is an appalling record and there’s no excuse for it.
Gary Mackay-Steven is one of the worst players I’ve seen in a Celtic strip and I’m old enough to remember Jim Melrose.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Althetim

We pay more for players than they do ffs we have the richest League in world Football on our doorstep.

Althetim
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

What’s your point Charlie?

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Althetim

My point is they may cost more but they are not any better as players.
Bit like if you buy a Volkswagon Golf from a UK Dealership then buy the exact same car from a dealership in Germany
I gather you can pay up to and over 40% extra here than over there for the exact model.
The problem we as ClubS WE do not buy top quality we buy good to average,hope to improve them or better still find a diamond in the rough like we did Wanyama.
Our best player would not get near a top sides bench that’s the reality of where we are at bud.

Davcat
4 years ago

same script every game, we score, defence make a mistake again .
Ronnie comes out and tells us everything will be better tomorrow.

He stated after Molde game we would be better but I cannot really see any improvement.
they had young players out there last night, we had young players out there but how many of our team would get in that Ajax team ?
Tierney would be the only one , I do not care about the results but I do care about the way we give up in games .
No heart, no leadership and im my opinion no sign of progress.
but hey ho Ronnie says next year will be better but then words are cheap but results are what counts

bgbhoy
4 years ago

marko, anyone but ronny would make an impact… he now holds the record for the worst run of gmaes in a european comp as a celtic manager!? what exactly have you seen that suggests he will turn it around? molde humiliated us at home and away.. a team lying 7th in the norwegian league

marko
4 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

anyone but Ronny..come on…that is a solution?f you can’t see that we were unfortunate to lose that game…then we will have to agree to disagree on that…i have seem us play some good football…I think Ronny can develop players..I think we need some time and I think we need a few additions and we have the makings of a quite a good team…this is not going to be an overnight quick fix…last night we were without 3 or 4 our best players…if you think bringing anyone would be better…you are entitled to your opinion.

andybhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  marko

Anyone but Ronny.
Ronny couldn’t develop a cough if he smoked 500 fags a day.

marko
4 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

you really have convinced me there…strong argument…

andybhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  marko

Good.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

Molde are top of the Group mate.
Not by chance either.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Molde are shite!

charlie
4 years ago

well said ralph roll on sunday COYBIG

Jace
4 years ago

Well said Ralph lets get after the treble and go again in Europe again next year!

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Jace

” absolute crap “?

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Jace

Not so much ” go again ” but embarrassed again, because that is what is coming.
Deila has the worst European record of any Celtic manager in our history….. but better is awaiting next year, Ronny is going to storm Europe????

Doubt it!

marko
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Glad you are right behind the team…are hoping we get beat…sounds like it to me.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  marko

Why would I ever want Celtic to be beaten?
To get rid of Deila?

Seriously? You think I want Celtic to get beaten to prove a point?

FFS

marko
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

sounds that way….

Doc
4 years ago

We got beat, again, by a younger, cheaper and less well paid team. In a must win game we started and finished with one striker and didn’t change it when it was obvious he was having an off night. We subbed off our most effective player. Lustig and Mulgrew looked like they were unfit.

The saddest part of all was how predictable this was.

Monti
4 years ago

1) SACK LAWWELL
2) SACK DEILA AND COLLINS
3) APPOINT DAVID MOYES

Everything is going great guns, great board, great ” developing ” manager…..
European results and performances are on the up….keep up the good work Ronny!

Ralph, Alistair Campbell would have been proud of the amount of spin you have put on the diary today.

DEILA OOOOOOOOUUUUUUTTT!

bogbhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

appoint david moyes?! the same arsehole whod no interest in us before, the same arsehole who plays 6 centre halfs in no matter what team he manages. the same arsehole who has a win percentage of less than 30 percent with his last 3 clubs. the same arsehole who was sacked in a year by his two previous clubs. feck off! he’s more nagative than neil lennon. want ronny out but would rather keep him than moyes at least we’re entertaining sometimes and attempt to go fwd. agree with you about ralph, he is an allistair campbell and spin doctor – a complete c***

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  bogbhoy

Are you employed sir?

bob
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Monti “OUT” of the house and get a job.

bogbhoy
4 years ago

Ralph the ballbag at it again. Bottom of our europa league group after 5 games with no wins, 2 defeats at home, gonna be bottom regardless of what happens when we get beat by fernabache. Ralph the ballbag again having a go at fans who turn up and watch games instead of ironing. Lets not let facts get in the way of ralph the ballbags posts. Deila out – sack the board – someone at etims sack ralph the complete arsehole and get some proper writes and Celtic fans in.

bogbhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Ralph Malph

the same to you allistair

andybhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Ralph Malph

Tee hee hee!

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  andybhoy

🙂

Jerseybhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Ralph Malph

Nice response Ralph like it.

marko
4 years ago
Reply to  bogbhoy

Nice intelligent debate….

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  marko

It would be if you would shut the fuck up 🙂

charlie
4 years ago
Reply to  bogbhoy

boggers grandwains will be celtic fans ugly celtic fans but celtic fans non the less

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  bogbhoy

bogbhoy,
Dan the man and Funkyy cover your eyes, I’m about to be offensive.

Bogbhoy, FUCK OFF!

bogbhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

when you caps it Monti, it really hurts my feelings. twat

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  bogbhoy

What do you expect? I have stuck up for you on here and hoped you were going to improve your contribution, yet you start calling Ralph an arsehole? That’s not on.

If you called Charlie Saiz an arsehole I wouldn’t have bothered 🙂

( joking Charlie )

bogbhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

he is an arsehole, you likened him to allistair campbell ffs which is far worse. Ralph many a time has called our own fans arseholes and worse especially when ppl protest over poppys and minutes silence etc. Also I don’t care if you stick up for me or not. My opinion is my own, ralph talks pish, he’s an arsehole. If ppl think I am then so be it. He’s a spin doctor.

bogbhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

charlie is an arsehole as are you. Comments keep getting deleted by ralph so can’t give a proper reply. you called him allistair campbell which is far worse than being an arsehole.

yestim
4 years ago

I don’t know if Deila is the right manager for us at present, but I do agree with Ralph on the economics of the game in Scotland, not just Celtic.

A few years back a team, now zombie team, introduced big spending on players. Players they could not afford, but found a way of cheating their way round a system.

Celtic tried with some success to follow this model without cheating and now have inherent debt from this time as up until recently other teams like Hearts the sheep etc.

Now a days we cut our cloth accordingly, we pay wages that are affordable, we don’t spend big money on signings and that includes managerial appointments. Are we better for this? no of course we are not but we are also not spending ourselves into oblivion like our zombie friends, who can’t buy their way out of the championship or second division in reality.

Maybe if the h##s had not cheated we would have a team of Scottish players that are used to playing European football. We would not have been spending they way we did under MON etc, and neither would any other Scottish team.

The world of football is a business, money from sponsorship and TV is washing all credibility down the sink, and in the long term it cannot be sustained. Sky TV already is suffering, no coverage of Champions or Europa League games because they put all their eggs in the basket called the EPL.

Note that the world team of the year had only one English player who has now retired or went to the states (same difference)

When it comes to world football we are where we are, not a corporation more a corner shop with some good prospects.

As I said, don’t know if we have the right manager or board or team for that matter, but if we don’t stick with our spending policy we may well be zombiefied

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  yestim

Yestim,
We have two billionaires on the board, it should be impossible to get into financial trouble, simply by spending on 3 or 4 players of a calibre that can take the club into the CL.
Also, if we are in the groups every year the board will get their money back.

Charlie Saiz, The player fund you say we could get rid of the board and buy them out?
Put me down for £50

This is a shambles.

bogbhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

aye your 50quid will make a difference ya mong.

marko
4 years ago
Reply to  bogbhoy

You really are a prick.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  bogbhoy

If every Tim on the planet put in £50
That’s a possible kitty of £450m If there are indeed 9 million of us out there?
It’s only a matter of numbers.
If 5 million put £50 in that’s £250m
It would cost £67m to buy the Club outright right now.

Bobby Petta' Statue
4 years ago
Reply to  bogbhoy

Bogbhoy,

mong? really? is it just the attention you crave? You’re a lowlife, son.

And that’s not your opinions that cause me to say that (unintelligent, poorly reasoned, and often offensive as they are).

You’re a homophobe and now taking the piss out those less fortunate than you (I get the irony of me writing this). Actually, are you Donald Trump?

Just gonna fuck off ya hun? I got bored of you a long time ago, and now its just tedious.

yestim
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Monti

we both know that they are as tight as a crabs arse, and don’t spend money unless they really want the players, Keane etc.

You cannot rely on them to spend. They are first and foremost business men and if they could see a way of investing and getting their dosh back I believe that the would spend on the team, but I can only assume that they believe it would be money down the drain.

£50 each into a co-op lets be honest, it would never get of the ground never mind work to the benefit of Celtic FC

andybhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  yestim

Never thought about a crabs arse before…good one.

Althetim
4 years ago
Reply to  yestim

With all due respect yestim, that is a load of bollox. The current lack of quality in the Celtic squad (in European terms) has got very little to do with finances. If that was the “cause” , then surely Malmo, Maribor and Legis Warsaw would be worse than us? Ajax as well for that matter. Then of course there is Molde – a mid table team from the Norwegian league gave us a footballing lesson FFS. It’s less about money, more about management and coaching skills. We are sadly lacking in that department.

delbhoy
4 years ago

Im gona do a bit of a u turn here and back the manager , yes we got beat but how good was it to see all those youngsters giving there all for the team most of them support. Tierney, mcgreggor, allan, forrest were all good. We have henderson coming back, christie, nesbitt to come in , janko , sinonovic. What a young dynamic team we could have. I think back to mowbrays team which was made up of loanees and hasbeens, that team was finished. This ones just beginning, i remember growing up watching man united and wishing we had a team like that instead of over paid foriegners. Now we could and il pay my money all day long to see it. I might be in the minority but i thought last nites team was a breath of fresh air. Was watching a video on youtube of jinky in bairds bar , he was asked about the fans support and he said they were there with us all the way to lisbon . But do know what meant more, the way they got behind us in the seasons we werent winning, they backed us and we went on to greater things. Maybe we are all being a bit harsh on ronny. How many of last nites tesm would grt a chance under moyes? None. They would be away to ross county and aberdeen . Hail hail

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  delbhoy

Spot on ask yersel how many would have started under Lenny?
Ambrose an unfit Mulgrew Izzy and Stokes would have started no danger.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

You need to lay off Neil Lennon, he beat Barcelona, Deila wouldn’t be able to beat Barcelona on Fifa 16 on the XBOX!

bob
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

And you BEAT your meat

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

He also lost to Morton.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Ah Moron?
Deprived you of your treble day at Hampden…..lol lol lol

JIMBO
4 years ago

WHY is Armstrong taking all the dead ball’s his delivery is piss poor, not just last night but every game I’ve watch this year. Watch the next game if you think I’m talking shit.

Some positive from last night but highlighted again the lack of real ability, vision and wit in the team…. If Griffith’s wants to improve spend the next week watch Henrik Larsson video’s he setup as many as he scored.

1: I fear Brownie’s days are numbered and the years are starting to take their toll on his body, who will fill his boots …

2: If the master plan, is as described (I have my doubts) … build a new young team with hunger, heart and fight …. Then it needs to start NOW … this weekend, nothing to lose now Ronny.

On a positive note: team where creating chances, although some of that maybe down to Ajax defending/style … and If you create chances you have a chance to score unlike previous weeks creating no/little chances but 70% of possession.

TIME TO UNVAIL MASTER PLAN OR MOVE ON ….

bogbhoy
4 years ago

love typing a big reply to ralph the arsehole and it disappears. Monti was right – allistair campbell. Ronny is peters puppet – same mistakes over and over. Get him out but not for david moyes!

elcormaco
4 years ago
Reply to  bogbhoy

Ive met ralph a couple of times, he’s not an arsehole and he doesnt censor comments, mine is lost too, it happens sometimes with this site, they usually pop up later on.

Cartvale88
4 years ago

Worser and worser. The fable The Emperor with no clothes would suit this mob.
For years Celtic have been shocking in Europe. Bar the odd success we do not improve. Look at some of the teams that have played well in Europe, then look at Malmo result against PSG, do you think the teams of yore would have lost by that score, the current team probably would have.
The blame lies totally with the board who do not understand that the crowds are dropping at Paradise.
Once a fan stops going to games it is extremely hard to get him back.
There has to be a radical rethink at the club, to improve the supporters day.
Also we require a quality defender and a finisher, Boyata and Ciftci may look good in Scottish crap but do not make the Europa level.

Away for a wee lie down

franko
4 years ago

we have been absolutely humped by teams that have MUCH MUCH less money than us, so we can’t blame that. Bottom line is the manager has massively underachieved in Europe with the players available to him.

There is no way that Malmo, Molde or Maribor are any better than us but all have beaten is quite easily.

Ronny has to take the blame for that.

“And yet there are calls for him to be sacked just as he starts to get that plan into shape.” – seriously? Are you having a laugh? What signs are there that ANY plan is taking shape?

yestim
4 years ago
Reply to  franko

Cartvale and franco

I think that you miss the point of RD’s appointment.

All these small country teams with less money prove one thing. If you don’t have the money to spend then you go back to the root cause and start breeding your own players. Norway’s teams apart form Rosenberg were in decline for years until they started to breed youngsters and stop selling them to EPL teams.

They are now bearing fruit and can beat teams with more wealth, remember they have defeated not only Us, the Dutch and the Turks.

Maybe the way we are going just now is the way forward

franko
4 years ago
Reply to  yestim

But my point stands. I think everyone agrees that we have better players than Malmo, Maribor & Molde, yet they all still beat us quite easily. That tells me the manager is not getting the best out of his players. We need a manager that makes us better collectively than we are individually, not the opposite. I agree that we need to develop our own players, absolutely. But is Ronny the man to get the best out of them? For me the evidence so far says no.

yestim
4 years ago
Reply to  franko

Franco

fair point!!

andybhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  franko

Spot on Franko.

andybhoy
4 years ago
Reply to  yestim

The only point, or should I say points of Deila’s appointment was the fact that he was cheap and our club has absolutely no ambition.

bgbhoy
4 years ago

good point monti…. we have 2 billionaires on the board… were never going to go the way of dead co and lawell knows this….. so why not push the boat out for ucl next season? and then the season after that and so on.. and become an established ucl team.. oh i know, becuase he wouldnt get his 500 k bonus!!!!

GaryBhoy
4 years ago

In what was a pretty disappointing night all round there were a few things that were postives for me –

1) Tierney. Another assured, confident performance from the youngster

2) Scott Allan. Great eye for a pass….but not eyes in the back if his head sadly.

3) The fact that we had 8 Scots on the pitch at one point last night and 6 of them were under 25.

Shite Euro campaign all round, but at least a few positives going forward

CeciltheLion
4 years ago
Reply to  GaryBhoy

8 Scots, young team. Fantastic! Wish I’d realised that’s what the game plan was. I wouldn’t have been so sickened at another European shagging.

marko
4 years ago
Reply to  CeciltheLion

Shagging?? Really??

marko
4 years ago
Reply to  CeciltheLion

agenda,maybe?

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago

All conversations aside great Diary from you today Ralph totally spot on in my opinion.
HH

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Brown nose 🙂

bob
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

That’s what you should do you might get a job

Cartvale88
4 years ago

I do not miss the reason for Delilah, last year I accepted was a transition,but look at how often he has a team dominated by players that played under Lenny.
New blood, probably Tierney, possibly Forrest improving, disasters, who bought Ciftci, what does he bring to a team.yes we had eight Scots on the pitch, in general good enough for SPFL.
Why, why Delilah does not look at bringing in a quality forward in the Hartson mould I don’t get.
Last night the minions made up the Celtic team, no height or strength.
You could see the sucker punch crunch coming.
in most games we have scored first only too lose goals.

yestim
4 years ago
Reply to  Cartvale88

Cartvale

He doesn’t bring in a Hartson type player because we cannot afford the fee or the wages under this set up.

It’s all about bringing in cheap with good prospects or breed our own. I am with you on this, I would love a John Hartson type player but it’s not where we are at now

Monti
4 years ago

Ralph,
For the record I didn’t call you Alistair Campbell, I was referring to the positive spin.

Bogbhoy isn’t right in the head lol

KTF
4 years ago

Monti, Bgboy and Bogbhoy you boys need to take a look at yourselves. If you can’t see that Celtic performed well last night then your blinkered by your obvious dislike for Ronny. We played the Dutch league leaders home and away and more than matched them in both games, only let down last night by poor finishing. I would actually argue that our performances this year have been an improvement on those in the group stages last year. If you think back, we were jammy as fck to beat Astra and Zagreb at home and we got pumped by Red Bull in the other game at CP. Craig Gordon and efficient striking saw us through last year, no doubt about it. We were outclassed by every team we played either home or away. That wasn’t the case in this campaign.
Don’t get me wrong, there’s plenty I would change and Ronny is far, far from perfect but what doesn’t help is supporters like you breathlessly getting onto their laptops after a game to call for his head. You have to see beyond the results and look at the performance and, as Ralph says, there are plenty of positives to be taken from last night
David Moyes?? I want to cry!! You want presumably want him to come in, give the players a short term boost more than likely, win the league, scratch around in Europe for a bit then decline further with no forward planning whatsoever. Depressing.
You boys have to remember the environment we’re playing in at the moment means that for us to perform as well as we did against the best team in Holland is certainly a cause for positivity, especially with us missing so many key players. But that doesn’t matter to you lads who can’t wait for more reasons to get rid of Ronny.

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  KTF

Cracking post well said bud.
Best post on here today by far.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Oh for fuck sake…..

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  KTF

KTF,
I can confirm I don’t like RD!

Tourtenay
4 years ago

Haven’t added a comment for quite some time but very saddened by the performance of Celtic in Europe this season.
For me it’s obvious that the players we have at the moment are not good enough for European competition, they may do well in the SPL but Europe is the testing ground and they have all proved wanting.
I don’t think any manager could turn this lot around, Ajax aren’t even that good and will probably go the same way as us and get eliminated from the competition but they can come to Celtic Park and walk off with a victory.
If we continue to purchase players who are ok in the SPL and do not go looking for quality elsewhere then we will forever be also rants in European competition, these players are just not up to the standard to raise the coefficient of the team.
Having lived abroad during the cheating years I must say this is the worst team and management I have ever seen at Celtic Park.
Great business, good profits, second class team.
HH

KTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Tourtenay

You say they walk off with a victory as if they steamrollered us! They did nothing of the sort. Worst team and management? Catch yourself on.

Tourtenay
4 years ago
Reply to  KTF

I didn’t mention steamrolled, there’s a chasm of difference between what I said and what you imply, if you’re going to criticize please stick to the facts and don’t exaggerate out of all proportion .
Celtic were second best against Ajax in most departments who came to Parched and walked off with a deserved win

Charlie Saiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Tourtenay

The SPL is the proving ground Europe is more than a few steps up from the level for our Club now.
Look at Ajax they are in exactly the same boat as us.
One could argue they should be aiming higher than us of course having won far more as a Club at that level.
Yet I don’t here about their fans screaming for the Manages head?
They like us have had to re evaluate their situation and have reverted back to building a team from their Academy.

Tourtenay
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Charlie, I said Europe was the “testing ground “, I agree the SPL is the proving ground but there is a difference in these two characteristics.
I don’t believe that we are in the same boat as Ajax, I believe they are far ahead of us in development and they have a first team coach that the majority of the fans trust.
It may come to pass that we will catch them up but I am afraid it may be beyond this coach.

HH

BelgoBhoy
4 years ago

We can’t and shouldn’t expect a CL quality side in a couple of years. Look at Ajax, A club renowned for providing potential future stars since the implementation of the Cruyff strategy. The management are in meltdown and a large part of fans boycotted a game 2 weeks ago because there has no evidence whatsoever of progress. Their biggest potential star (Bazoer) even came trough the ranks of PSV. I know we don’t really have a choice but are we really going to do that with succes? Altough we have some good young potentials, I for one can only remember McGeady who really made it.
Look at clubs like Basel, Porto etc who do rather well in a similar way. The bottom line is that we DO need to spend on ADDED value (no Cole etc) to build a team around. We Can’t go for 20m signigs but if we want any form of lasting success we’ll have to make exceptions in wages…

And for those claiming Lennon didn’t believe in young talent. You know that you’re talking about the guy who brought in Tony Watt in the Barca game right?

m1kks
4 years ago

Good read Ralph totally agree we are a long term project.

Glad to see you are keeping the Faith

Hail Hail

schoosh71
4 years ago

A well thought out and reasoned blog, who did you get to write it 🙂
See this BUN media assertion (that a lot of fans have fell for) that Celtic can only be judged in Europe. as there is no sevco, what a load of nonsense. If fans can’t see the long term strategy that’s ‘being’ implemented, it’s just as well the board don’t care what the fans think. It brings joy to my heart seeing young Celtic supporting BHOYS pulling on the hoops and showing the grit, heart and determination that’s needed and expected from the fans. HH

schoosh71
4 years ago

Banned again? LOL

Tourtenay
4 years ago
Reply to  schoosh71

Would that be blinds faith??

schoosh71
4 years ago
Reply to  Tourtenay

Ye cannae beat a bit of faith, with the blinds open or shut.

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Tourtenay

Shadey man…..

schoosh71
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

And violent.

Tourtenay
4 years ago

I love Celtic as most of you do but the lack of achievement affects the whole family!
Before a big game and always a European game I used to receive tweets, emails and txt messages from all and sundry but over the past few months there’s very little communication from the extended family prior to a match and that’s not down to my bad breath or body odour, it’s down to the fact that no one really expects Celtic to win anymore, the outcome is forgone.
In all honesty I would have been surprised if Celtic won last night simply because the ability isn’t there.
I know there is plenty of talk about new young players coming through, what are we meant to do in the meantime, put up with this rubbish and hope the kids will be better!!
What’s the answer?
HH

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Tourtenay

Sack Deila and appoint David Moyes!

marko
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

be careful what you wish for…it may come true….

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  marko

I did wish for Craig Whyte to give David Murray £1 right enough……

marko
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

LOL

Monti
4 years ago

A few minutes to go and we have a corner, Armstrong on the ball and our best headers of the ball are in the box..Scott Allan is standing alone..ish at the edge of the box…
Do you A) Swing the corner in at pace hoping for a Head on the end of it.

B) play it short to Scott Allan on the edge of the box, knowing if he get’s closed down, robbed of possession, we will almost certainly lose a goal and the game.

C) Ask a steward What time the next flights to Norway are from Glasgow?

KTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Yet again focussing on one bad moment in a game we deserved to win to suit your agenda. Be fair buddy!

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  KTF

” Deserved to win “?
I disagree KTF, how many times do I need to say it?
If Deila was showing signs of developing a side that can show up well in Europe whilst winning the League, I would have no issues with him.

He isn’t getting it right, we aren’t progressing and his record backs up my view of him.
Why should we accept this level of underachievment? Because he is a nice guy?

Come on.

Bawsman
4 years ago

Great article, I usually stay offline for a few days after a defeat as the same shite gets posted, first thing I noticed was we started with 7 Scots in the line up, I can live with that if I can see improvement. And I do.

Hail x2

Monti
4 years ago
Reply to  Bawsman

Where?

You mad about ETims or just plain mad? Why not buy the t-shirt at http://etims.spreadshirt.co.uk/