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Celtic Diary Tuesday November 24: Cheer Up, You Know What They Say…

Last word on the current crisis-if thats the right word-surrounding the board and it’s ever increasing rt. Promise, and then we’ll get back to talking about football and finding someone less fortunate than ourselves.

They never disappoint.

The recent statement from Lord Livingstone at least clarifies what he is thinking, and explains his actions. There’s been no such statement from Iain Bankier. after his bizarre performance at the AGm, he’s noticed the touch paper is burning merrily, and he’s withdrawn to a safe distance.

Maybe now we can see why he was allowed to say what he said.

Peter Lawwell is in charge of day to day affairs at Celtic. The board are there to come up with ideas, be it on how to raise money, how to make money or how to spend money. You can probably see the theme there, and ultimately whoever comes up with the best and most workable thesis, Lawwell will give them the nod.

Over on Celtic Underground, there’s a piece which suggests that maybe the board have gone a little stale. He’s got a point. It may, if you expand it a little, explain Bankiers sudden urge to stand in the spotlight as well.

Memebership of the board of a football club is uaully a bit of an ego trip. Something that you cab tell your pals down at the golf club. If you suddenly feel you aren’t pulling your weight, perhaps because there are rumours that there might be a bit of a change in the air, then you may suddenly feel that you have to do something, as in I need to do something, this is something, I’m going to do it.

Frankly, I cannot see how Lawwell, who is very much aware of the way the media works, and the way the support feels-you’ll have to trust me on this one-would have allowed Bankier to make the speech he did without at least warning him of the reaction from the support.

You’ll notice that the CEO has stayed well away from the aftermath.

And there’s one person that Desmond listens to when it comes to his little toy…

Bankier, and Livingstone, have gone down the “open to all ” route, claiming that Celtic are unique in that anyone can be a memeber, or a fan, and they will all be welcomed, and treated, exactly the same.

Er, thats kind of the law.

Everyone has to be treated equally, and no exclusions can be made on race, gender, sexuality or colour.

Why make such a big thing about something that is not unique, and is in fact, the same for every club, every workplace and every other walk of life ?

Remember, Celtic fans didn’t turn on Livingstone because he was a Jew, with one or two notable exceptions, from people who would be refused entry to any club probably because they would struggle to fill in the application form, they turned on him not because of his political beliefs, but because of what he did.

It was his action in the Lords that prompted the debate, and not the fact that he was in the Lords.

So, maybe it’s time for a change in the boardroom.

Not only because of whats happened recently, but simply because, well, it’s all gone a bit stale. There are no fresh ideas, there is no wave of innovative thinking, in fact, there’s pretty much nothing.

Just as the team occasionally needs new blood to liven things up, it appears the boardroom does as well.

And I think that the events of the last couple of weeks will have perhaps moved forward some plans that were probably already in the pipeline.

We’ll wait and see. But for the moment, there’s probably no need to get the banners out and head to the car park. i’ve a feeling when we get there we might be too late.

And on to the football.

When i mentioned fresh ideas previously, they are mostly about making money. We all know the problems of raising finance for the Scottish game, and it’s great to see that clubs have adjusted, and are beginning to make money. Amazing what you can do when you have to, and there isn’t a friendly bank manager or helpful tax adviser on speed dial.

Though the idea of playing a league game in the United States, however exciting and appealing it may seem, is a bit of a non starter.

The idea has come from Dundee, and not Celtic, presumably because even our board don’t think we’re stupid enough to fall for such an obvious non story, and talks are described as being at a tentative stage.

Adter all, little things such as who gets to keep the gate receipts, the tv money and the merchandising would take months to iron out alone, and as for policing and transport costs, it’s quite clear that no-one has really thought this through.

There are too many obstacles to overcome, and the risks involved probably outweigh the advantages, but don’t be surprised if there’s another American tour soon, maybe in a winter shutdown…

So, on to the football, and another season defining game takes place on Thursday, as we welcome our old friends Ajax of amsterdam to Glasgow.

Who needs a strong Rangers when you can play this lot every year ?

A win is needed if Celtic are to have any hopes of competing in Europe after santa’s been, and frankly, it’s going to be difficult.

Scott Brown thinks he knows how to hurt Ajax. Even though it looks like he’ll have to do it from the bench.

Ajax have always produced good players and they have some in the current team, We’ve played them quite often in recent years and I enjoyed that. Hopefully, I’ll be able to enjoy this one as well. We did well in Amsterdam and we need to take the positives from that game. It was just a pity that Emilio Izaguirre was sent off over there and they came back to equalise, but these things happen in football and we need to bounce back. I think we showed that we could hurt them. We have some good young Scottish players coming through and I hope they can help to bolster the Scotland squad soon as well. A clean sheet would be good, but, as long as we score more goals than they do, I don’t really mind.”

“As long as we score more goals than they do ”

Well, he’s thinking of going into management, and it appears he’s already grasped the basics…

There is one thing that might give us a little more hope than perhaps we deserve.

Jozo simunovic looks like a player, and he hasn’t been injured all week.

Brown said;

“Jozo’s looking good He’s looking sharp, he’s aggressive in the air and good on the ball so he definitely has good qualities. Hopefully, he’ll help us through to the next round.

“It was a big miss for us when he was out through injury. He’s a leader at the back and having one of them really helps.

“The big man has been brand new. Everyone has done their bit to make him feel welcome and he enjoys being at the club.

“He just wants to get a number of games under his belt now. He speaks well, which is good for the dressing room.” 

There are a few players missing for this game, and maybe the rest will gain a bit of strength in adversity.

Brown and Commons are doubtful, Lustig, Biton and Johansen are suspended.

And no doubt someone will fall over his laces during the warm up, so it’s difficult to pick a team at the moment.

But you know what, we need some Tims in that line up.

Know what i’d do, which is probably why i’m not the manager, I’d throw caution to the wind.

Lunchtime, and they can help out at a foodbank

On Thursday morning I’d take the players to St. Mary’s, in Calton.

Lunchtime, and they can help out at a foodbank

In the afternoon, they’d do the stadium tour, and then head to Lennoxtown for a bit of pasta and a wee warm up.

Then, they could arrive at the ground, speak to a few fans as they go in, and leave the dressing room window open, so they can hear whats going on.

And they could have a look at the poster on the wall, placed there while they were at Lennoxtown.

And they could absorb the meaning behind these words.


If that doesn’t make them Tims, then they are at the wrong club. 

 

 

And now it’s time to laugh at those less fortunate than ourselves.

Is it true that Jim Traynors middle names are “needs a personal ” ?

Health, of course, is very important, especially now statistics show that one in two and a half men are HIV positive.

See, I feel better already.

The world isn’t such a bad place when you cab raise a chuckle, in fact, even the Russians are laughing, looking ahead to the prospect of having Turkey for Christmas.

But when it comes to laughter, theres only one place to head for, and that, of course, is Ibrox stadium, home of the cash strapped new club that evryone has taken to their hearts after their gallant struggle against all those people who hate them, or are obsessed by them, or are  trying to point out the simple fact that Dave King, their latest financial fairy godfather, may not, in actual fact, be about to ride into town on a sleigh throwing pound notes into the air.

But not to worry, Chris Jack, the intrepid investigative reporter over at the Ibrox Evening Times, has the answer;

Ibrox fan ownership group hope they can be the loan

Rangers to help Light Blues board with Gers rebuild

Jack has gained a reputation for being a bit of a cheerleader where the Ibrox clubs are concerned, and it doesn’t appear to have crossed his mind that maybe one or two of their support will hold him accountable -and others, of course-when it all goes wrong again.

He boasts that;

No matter the millions that are pledged or delivered by those now in control at Ibrox, the financial backing of fans will help shape Rangers’ future on and off the park.

Admittedly , he acknowledges that questions will be asked regarding the colour of Dave Kings money-presumably the hordes are worried it might be green, or white, two colours they are probably a little sick of just now, but to finish on that paragraph above, and use the word “millions ” alongside “pledged”  and “delivered ” shows either a complete lack of understinding about whats going on over there, a complete lack of willing to try to.

Jack should take a leaf out of fellow cheerleader Chris Grahams book, and adopt a similar policy….

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Still, its christmas , and we love a good panto, and this one has been running for years, and somehow it never gets old…

And Dave King et al will not be travelling in a slegih over Christmas, regardless of whether or not he throws any money into his basket of assets. Thats just silly.

There’s alternative transport being arranged for him, according to a couple of people who really should have more respect for the great man;

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Speaking of Christmas, have you seen Scott Browns acting debut in the Celtic merchandising advert ?

It’s actually very good, and very well thought out.

Wish Upon a Star

Not to be outdone, internet bampot Arsene Parcelie has done his own little festive nugget..

 

You see, we haven’t forgotten how to laugh…

Life isn’t so bad after all..

Even my old pal, who has never been much of a hit with the ladies has improved his chat up technique, now comparing any lady who catches his eye to a work of art.

Although he could probably omit to add that he’d like to nail them up against a wall if he wants to stop getting punched.

Oh, that reminds me, Bobby Madden didn’t have a good game on Saturday, did he ?

But don’t worry, we hear he’s been down to see the referee sponsors about his, er , optical issues…

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Oh go on, let’s have a caption competition, they’re always good for a laugh.

Here’s the former owner of a now missing  magic hat, presumably telling his PA that he wanted to sort something out with a milliner, and not extend the contract of a permatanned  forward, and could she listen more carefully in future.

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Unless, of course , you know different.

 

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ChrisBhoy
8 years ago

Great Diary Ralph. Your thoughts on the Board being a bit stale are spot on. Any Company in the doldrums or indeed going backward would look to bring in fresh ideas and momentum.

Most telling sentance today “Who needs a strong Rangers when we can play this lot every year”
This is where Celtic will grow. In an enlarged Europa League playing quality everyweek can only raise our standards

8 years ago
Reply to  ChrisBhoy

Chris,
Something doesn’t sit right with me when these talks about Atlantic leagues and as you mentioned ” An enlarged Europa league “.
We are a Scottish club, we are Scotland’s Champion club and as such we have a duty to compete in our own domestic league.
It’s up to those who ‘ run ‘ our game( I know I know) to come up with a format that creates balance and excitement in the domestic championships.
When the Lisbon Lions were doing their stuff around Europe we also had several other strong sides competing in the league.
For me this is the answer, more competition in our league would push us on, the harder the games we face the sharper we should be on a European night.
For example When Man Utd play away to Arsenal and home to Man City, that is a Champions league level game, so when utd go into the CL they are ready to compete.
I don’t want Celtic to leave Scottish football, a format has to be found that creates a stronger level of competition. HH

tom o'neill
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

When it comes to a more competitive Scottish League set up, quite a few folks talk a good game.
However, walking the walk could prove to be very different kettle of fish.
Next season we will be back to a set up where between them, two clubs will corner ninety to ninety five percent of available revenue. And with such an arrangement there can never be a truly competitive set up.

The only answer is to spread the game’s revenue more evenly.
Unpalatable as it may be for some, there has to be a return to gate sharing.

An even distribution of an admittedly pathetic TV money pot.
And a strictly one club on vote system.
As I said not to popular. However without some radical change, any talk of the merits of a more competitive environment is just so much hypocritical hot air.

8 years ago
Reply to  tom o'neill

Tom,
I was just saying a more competitive domestic league, would be preferable to playing in another format.

Andy
8 years ago
Reply to  tom o'neill

I believe it would be fair to share a percentage based on the visiting clubs own stadium size. For example say a team with a stadium capacity of 12,000 visits a team with a capacity of 60,000. We take the revenue from gate receipts and give the visitors 20%. Now what about the other way around? So 60,000 visits 12,000. Now by my math 500% of the gate reciepts should go to the team with the 60,000 capacity. That of course is unrealistic so the cap of 25% is applied. This would mean that if the visitors filled up Celtic Park by playing attractive football they would get a full stadium windfall, but if they do not fill it up the amount gets smaller and smaller. Of course when Celtic comes to town and invariably fills up their stadium they are due us 25%. Which isn’t that much by comparison. Now I think that games should be given a carnival atmosphere outside the stadiums with food, rides and big TVs for the home fans so even if they don’t have a ticket we get revenue from them partying outside. If only there was enough space for an extra 60,000 people outside not being harassed by police.

Carl Bigginslater
8 years ago
Reply to  tom o'neill

Predicted text balls. I meant CL.

Carl Bigginslater
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

So why is it English teams can’t compete in the CLASSROOM?

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago

Here is a bit of innovative thinking…
We the Celtic Fanbase that is the many millions who do actually give a fcuk about what is happening at our Club can be the change needed at Celtic.
I suggest we all step up by £20 in shares each put them all together and take control of ou Club.
I next propose we return Celtic to a Football Club with Charitable aims.
That is we become a non profit making entity that is primarily run as a Football Club but who’s profits AFTER expenses ie the running of said Club go directly to Charity via the Celtic Foundation.
I also propose that each fan who has a £20 share is given 1 vote at AGM’s thus making the whole Voting System of appointing Board Members as fair as can be.
I think Football in going down the Corporate route has sold it’s soul to the highest bidder.
I think the game has become morally corrupt and as a result Celtic Fc has had to compromise it’s ethos in order to keep up.
I think we are in a unique position at Celtic we have a large fanbase who believe in equality and fairness for all.
We expect our side to compete with honesty and dignity on the Park and also the very same off it.
Recent events regarding certain members of our Board have highlighted a disconnect between what we as fans expect and what our Club is currently delivering.
Our Chief shareholder has apparently lost interest he cannot even be *rsed turning up once a year to discuss where we are at?
That cannot continue.
Our numbers are large we have the ability and capability to make serious changes at Celtic changes that could and would certainly separate us from the norm in Football?
I think if we were to take control of the Club and run it as I have suggested above then funding would not be an issue for I could see many businesses out there with moral ethos wanting to be associated with such a Club.
I also believe once the message got out there that Celtic was operating this way in Football our numbers could yet swell further.
Hopefully this post makes it……….
HH

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

buy’

deadhead67
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

that will be the celtic foundation that gives money to murdering british troops,no thanks lets spend it all on players

CeciltheLion
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Ebbsfleet did this in 2007. They had to be taken over by a Kuwaiti company a few years later. Good concept but the execution isn’t as easy as it seems.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  CeciltheLion

With all due respect we number in our Millions this is a very viable solution.

8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Evening Charlie Saiz,
Your idea is viable and it would be interesting to see how much could be raised with our global fan Base.
I like the idea, what puzzles me tho is why have a succession of Celtic boards not tapped in to that global fan Base?
Why haven’t they done it? HH

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Perhaps they would rather keep the fanbase split so they can continue to make money from the Club unhindered?
They know as well as we do a United front (like I have suggested )could mean curtains for their cosy set up.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago

Large post has evaporated into the ether….

Brencelt
8 years ago

Caption: I’m not looking for a sporting advantage. Get those refs to deliver two red cards and one penalty each match as promised. And I mean that with the utmost of respect.

Michael Annis
8 years ago

Hello Santa? Yes I’ve been a good boy but this Christmas I want something special. You know how last year I told you I wanted a new job with fun and prospects working with lovely people. Well this year can you get me to fek out of here. Anywhere would do as long as they are sane and well well away from this mad house.

delbhoy
8 years ago

Anyone else wondering how were going to fit all these youngsters were signing into the side , being linked with soutar today , got henderson coming back , allan and christie both going for number ten position, armstrong asking to play throughthe middle, why are we bringing all these players in, is there gonna be a mass clear out?

8 years ago
Reply to  delbhoy

delbhoy,
It’s all part of the downsizing plan, get the high earners sold and bring in the young players on low wages.
Sounds good but watch the results on the field.

I do not expect to be in the CL over the next 3 years.
Our manager is developing you see…..HH

mike
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Nothing wrong with young Scottish players,young Tierny for example or Mcginn both Celtic supporters,even the Lions were young once,its how they are coached,this is for me the one Ronny redeeming feature,just dont let him near the first team and by the way let go his assistant ASAP.

8 years ago
Reply to  mike

Mcginn? He’s Irish.

mike
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

No hes no his grandad was a past chairman of the Tims he plays for Hibs and his heart belongs to celtic ,get him signed pronto.

8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Ah, John Mcginn, I thought you meant Niall.
As for being related to Jack Mcginn, that would concern me.

bgbhoy
8 years ago

ronny out

8 years ago

Can someone tell me what Antony Stokes has done, to be being treated so poorly by Ronny Deila?
Stokes is a good player ( domestically) and can surely be given a fair chance, he has given the club some great performances and goals over the years?

Come on Stokesy, bang on Deila’s door and ask the question.

CeciltheLion
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Nah, Monti. Stokes has been garbage for a long, long time. I doubt I’ve ever seen him take a decent corner kick, his finishing is poor and his assist record (and I’m guessing here) feels like it’s second to everybody’s.

8 years ago
Reply to  CeciltheLion

Cecil,
I’m not saying Stokes is a world beater by any stretch, but Stokes has delivered for Celtic in the past.
All about opinions the mate so fair enough.
What I was getting at tho is, where is he, how is he no getting a chance, has he downed tools? If so why?

Plumsaucesaurus
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Maybe if he had the attitude and application of an adult instead of acting like a stupid wean then he might get back in the team. This isn’t Neil Lennon’s “boys will be boys” club.

8 years ago

Plum,
Having the right attitude is a must.
How would you describe the attitude of the captain going on the lash and lying half drunk in the srreet, days before a league cup final?

Personally speaking, I wasn’t impressed!

ewanbhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

I have heard that stokes is the laziest player in training, so I would imagine that’s why he is not getting a game

8 years ago
Reply to  ewanbhoy

Brian Mcclair was lazy in training!

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  CeciltheLion

https://youtu.be/lth1sxP2MXc?t=25s

Note the shite delivery for both Hoopers goals…

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Ronny has a substantial Elvis collection..uhu

8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Taxi

8 years ago

Good afternoon Dan and Funkyy,
I am still awaiting your apology.

bgbhoy
8 years ago

monti- he is finished with celtic…. with some of his behaviour… which im not going to detail as it looks like the club and press are on this daily… but he is a shambles of a guy and does not deserve to wear the hoops again

8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

bgbhoy,
Fair enough mate!

8 years ago

About Warburton’s missing magic hat, I believe I’ve found it:comment image

Devoy45
8 years ago

I had some trouble picking a team against Ajax, with Lustig,Johansen and Bitton suspended and injuries to Brown and Commons. Here goes:
Gordon
Ambrose/Boyata/Simunovic/Izzy
Armstrong/Allan
Forrest/Rogic/Mackay-Steven
Griffiths

subs: Bailly/Janko/Tierney/McGregor/Ciftci/Cole/
?
Thin on the ground with five missing. I think we can win against Ajax but am not expecting it.

8 years ago
Reply to  Devoy45

Devoy,
You say you think we can beat Ajax but don’t expect it.
What is giving you scope for optimism?

For the record I don’t expect to win, I am readying myself for more of the same….dismal passing and weak defending. HH

bgbhoy
8 years ago

why did the clown manager allow darnell fisher to go? he has never put a foot wrong in the celtic jersey

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

Perhaps because he seen no need for 4 RB’s to be at the Club knowing Fisher would get little game time behind Lustig Anbrose and Janko?

8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Out of those four, we should have let Ambrose go out on loan.

bgbhoy
8 years ago

id play calum mcgregor before gms every day of the week at the moment… or even better still, give scott allan 90 mins

mike
8 years ago

For me there is some merit in Charlie saiz plan, Fergus surely advocated this,although i would be against fan involvement on the Board,leave it to the Pros.The club should remain in Scotland but with a couple of better quality players and a management team that knows what its doing that would do it for me,surely C.L. fitba isnt out of our reach.

8 years ago
Reply to  mike

Mike,
You would be against fan involvement in the boardroom?

Why?

mike
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Monti,when running a business you need to be detatched,cant rule with the heart,the pro would be able to take and give advice to a fan group,bit like a solicitor but always acting on there best interests.

8 years ago
Reply to  mike

I take your points Mike but I don’t agree, a fan or fans on the board would be entirely healthy!

mr greene
8 years ago

Caption .

Right Charlie , If the entire fanbase puts in £20 each ……………………..

yestim
8 years ago
Reply to  mr greene

Waburton, Kingy show me the money, I can’t hear you show me the money, show me the MONEY!!!!!!

8 years ago

As regards the Wish upon a star vid, I love the sentiment of keep believing but the sight of broonie in that onesie makes me question everything I ever believed in. And not in a good way. I will be watching on Thursday but only through duty

Devoy45
8 years ago

My optimism is based on performances against all 3 of our opponents in the Europa League. If we can draw in Amsterdam, we can win in Paradise. Simples. Not being a fortune teller, I don’t know which Celtic will turn up and I don’t know how incompetent the refs will be. A win wouldn’t surprise me but with this team, nothing would surprise me.Maybe having five players out will inspire some others to put in a good performance?

yestim
8 years ago
Reply to  Devoy45

Devoy45,

I agree with you, you never know who will turn up, maybe having five players out will make a difference and maybe they won’t. I don’t know how the rest of you are feeling but I have kinda lost interest in this years Europa League. Fed up building myself up, waiting for the game to start and then feeling like shit for the two days after.

8 years ago
Reply to  yestim

Yestim,
I expect to be beaten by Ajax, this current team and manager are sub standard.

I Base this on what I have seen this season, especially in Europe!

I see the ready made excuses are being made for Deila already…..five players out!

yestim
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

I know that you have this hang up with RD as manager and I do agree with you in part, however it is not a singular issue.

I believe that since MON left we have been on a downward spiral caused by lack of investment in finished articles type players and buying prospects which can be sold on for large profits.

Even WGS was brought in reduce the wage bill and maintain winning leagues and cups. I know at times his teams were boring but it bear testament to his abilities as a manager given the success he had with players like Paul Telfer who were considered well past their sell by date.

This could be down to our boards policies or the fact that TV and ticket sales revenue are down in the past years, but to blame one guy I don’t think is realistic

8 years ago
Reply to  yestim

Yestim,
I don’t blame one guy, Peter Lawwell and DD appointed Deila, Lawwell said it was a gamble, my point is the gamble hasn’t paid off.
Europe is vital to Celtic, yet under Deila Celtic are going backwards, the results confirm this!
The only thing that matters to me is seeing a Celtic team who fight tooth and nail for each other and have the quality to go with that.
I have no ” hang up ” with Ronny Deila, I am certain he doesn’t know what he is doing, the longer he remains in charge, the deeper we will fall. HH

8 years ago
Reply to  Devoy45

Devoy,
Two games against Molde, both were abject and dismal performances….and you are telling me there was something in those games that gave you hope?
What was it?

andybhoy
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Now now Monti, you know the answer to that one surely?

Look no further than Ronny Pep Jurgen Jose Diego Diela.

bgbhoy
8 years ago

devoy???????? performances against all 3 of our europa league opponents? what part of any molde game gave you hope? personally for me it was the full time whistle!!!

bgbhoy
8 years ago

i still think ronny is to embarassing defeats from the sack

although if they make collins manager til end of season i would start following rugby!!!!

yestim
8 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

I don’t think for a minute they would sack a manager without having another lined up, so Collins would have no chance

bgbhoy
8 years ago

***** two

Cartvale88
8 years ago

There is no leader in the team, a roomy is not a leader in the Roy Aitken mould.
JC is useless as the assistant manager would be better suited to join the merry board.
This season there has been no cohesion and bad formations where Delilah seems not to have a scoo you, at times he stands with a vacant expression at pitch side.
The game against Kilmarnock was predictable, we have no height or physical strength in attack, God help us Ciftci is a waste of money.
I fear that yet again Celti c will be out of Europe by the 1st December.
I also will not attend any game until Bankier resigns.

8 years ago
Reply to  Cartvale88

Cartvale,
I fully agree!

8 years ago
Reply to  Cartvale88

” Ciftci is a waste of money “….I disagree, the guy showed up really well for Dundee Utd in a good Dundee Utd side.
The problem is, RD refuses to play the guy, Ciftci like a number of players, he needs to be on the pitch playing, I see GMS is getting stick now again unfairly, these guys are just in the door and are being judged when they can’t even get on the park.
The manager plays the wrong system for the players at his disposal ( just my opinion.)
Although I see many fans on many forums who seem to share my view.
I don’t see what Deila is trying to do?
Celtic are struggling, he isn’t getting the beat out of the players, they aren’t fighting, there is no leadership on the park.
How long do we have to put up with this utter garbage?

Still if I sing YNWA at the top of my voice, Deila and the team will play better.

We are being fleeced and laughed at by the board at the same time.
” more than a club ” They say, the fans deserve much more than this patronising garbage from the board! HH

Bgbhoy
8 years ago

Yes time. Mowbray Lennon???

mike
8 years ago
Reply to  Bgbhoy

For me the Malmo Manager Age whatshis name we got the wrong Norweigan.

Damian Smyth
8 years ago

No doubt Lawwell & the board are planning what side issue they want to occupy the fans minds at the AGM next yr . Master stroke having a Board Member voting with his party in the House of Lords .
Our fans in the lead- up to AGM must put on their stupid hats .
The pressure we must put on the Board has to be the lack of funds for the first team squad , we must pressurise that yr after yr .
When we don’t the Board leave laughing at us . To stil have Livinstone top story on Tuesday shows how little we care about our team .
If we keep allowing the Board to get away by side-lining our most important goal the board will happily motor on .

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago

I wonder if I could offer you all the scenario where:
We all owned Celtic
We all had a single vote at AGM’s
We were to become a Non Profit making entity
We became a Charitable Entity as our main Financial goal
We had a Board fully Accountable to us all
We had a Board fully aware of our Ethos
We had a decent budget to improve our side every year
We had quality on show
We focussed on Competing in Europe as a main aim EVERY SEASON
We treated our fans as family and friends and not as Customers
Who would welcome the above?

Vinnie
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Charlie Saiz, agree with most of what you’re advocating. It’s crystal clear from your posts today (actually it’s now yesterday – 1.15 AM) where your heart lies. After reading posts from yourself, among others, in recent weeks I felt unsure how to go forward so I just bought a few shares to await developments.
‘Wullie Broon’ (one of the above-mentioned others) on TCN has also advocated fan ownership. I love the idea. It seems to me there are plenty of fans awaiting leadership on this, and it’s most definitely a strong possibility.
NB The few shares I bought are ‘not for profit’. If this can become a reality I’ll gladly donate/unite with others etc. for the dream of Celtic, a fan-owned Celtic, a true “Club Like No Other”
“We Have A Dream” It’s a VERY powerful idea.
HH

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago
Reply to  Vinnie

Hi Vinnie it’s attainable pal just a matter of numbers that’s all.
I too will buy some more this year coming because I believe the day will come for this to be a reality.
Totally agree it is a powerful idea.
HH

Vinnie
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Charlie, I think the time is now. We’d need to have some sort of central forum (for fan-ownership exclusively) to pool ideas on how to take this forward.
I could help with a wee bit of time and some ideas but I don’t really know how to get the ball rolling. (There’s a similar problem with some of the team this year in that respect) 🙂
Anyway, I reckon the 1st thing is to get like-minded Tims together. Any suggestions (from anyone) ?
Brilliant site as eTims is, it’s got to be left to deliver the Diary as it does daily with fan-ownership a stand-alone thing.
Cheers,
Vinnie.
HH

Devoy45
8 years ago

Charlie Saiz: More like, who WOULDN’T?
Molde games? We weren’t dominated from start to finish and both games could have turned easily. Monti, you said Fenerbahce would win the group and look what an unfancied team like Molde did to them! Maybe you are just as wrong about Celtic? We lost those Molde matches like we have been losing in Europe since 1970 and to teams just like Molde: Basle, Neuchatel, and Artmedia come to mind. It’s magic. Just say ‘Molde play as a team, maybe Deila can get us doing the same thing.’ MON had Sutton, Larsson, Hartson and more and couldn’t ‘improve in Europe.’Europe is a tournament and you don’t improve in tournaments: you either win or lose them, then the next year it is a completely different draw and you start all over again. ‘Improvement’ just means you get a weaker draw and our Europa League group is easily the strongest. Bad luck of the draw. The players we could go far in Europe with are players we can’t begin to afford. My ideal would be to take a young Scottish team: Tierney, Mackay-Steven, Forrest, Armstrong, Christie, Allan Griffiths and so on and let them gain confidence and experience and learn to do well in Europe. There is no affordable coach in Europe better than what we have and to get rid of Deila would set us back even more. Love the one you’re with. I would only agree to let Deila go if he doesn’t win the league.

8 years ago
Reply to  Devoy45

Devoy,
I agreed with all of that up until you mentioned there isn’t a better affordable manager in Europe than Deila.
I would say there were plenty.

Devoy,
I’m not the only Celtic fan who thinks Deila is out his depth, Pat Bonner called it right, it’s about WINNING!
Ronny Deila isn’t even close to getting us winning.
I’m not expecting Celtic to win the CL devoy, just getting into the groups and giving a good account of ourselves every year, that’s what I’m talking about.
We would then be bringing in the kind of finance that would allow us to strengthen every year, not downsize every year!HH

8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Devoy,
I do get it wrong sometimes when giving thoughts on the game, for example, when I heard Leicester had appointed Claudio Ranieri,I remember thinking, surely he is over the hill, there must be a manager in the English game a bit younger than Ranieri that would do a better job?

Leicester sit at the top of the Premiership!!

It’s only opinions and sometimes fans think we know everything, but praise and criticism go hand in hand with what we are watching.

Molde? They were playing within themselves at CP, that was pivotal for me.

8 years ago

Morning Dan, Morning Funkyy,
Guys, all you have to do is apologise and then we can all get on with it.
Come on noo lads, we are heading towards Christmas and there is no need for this….

You can see you were in the wrong can’t you?

🙂

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