Charlie saiz has been thinking again…
I asked a question a few week ago on E Tims regarding the possibility of perhaps raising extra Capital for our Club to bring in Marquee/Quality signings.
It was based loosely round a fan back fund aimed at all Celtic fans the World over.
The basic gist was you would donate a minimum of a fiver to a Club run Fund (more if you desired and could afford it) in order for the Club to have access to better quality signings that currently we simply cannot afford.
Thus improving our chances of once again competing against Europes finest.
Europa League is all fine and well but I know deep down we all prefer the big challenge.
Since the original Thread https://etims.net/?p=7914 there has been a further thread put forward by Monti discussing other Revenue streams we could venture down as a Club all of which most would agree is something that must happen if we are to be serious about competing again at the top table should we get there?
Well this got me to thinking of a way where perhaps we could put the theory to the test that fans all over could buy into an idea such as those discussed?
Do some actual Market research where real money is the barometer of how viable a plan this is if you like?
Obviously folk won’t just chuck money at an idea for no reason but it got me to thinking could we not all simply make a £5 donation to the Celtic Foundation?
Perhaps leave a marker say Fund67 or something when you leave the Donation?
I thoroughly believe most folk would gladly give a £5 knowing it was going to help someone in some way anyway but at the same time the Foundation get’s a massive boost before Christmas and this in itself could jolt the Club into undertaking such an idea if enough Capital Suddenly hit the Foundation Accounts?
I believe a sudden increase would certainly raise a few eyebrows.
I think this could be a way to initiating a change for the positive at Celtic and at the same time show all concerned that this could be a viable option for both Club and Support(far and wide).
What do you say folks?
I would like to see this idea put onto to all Celtic Sites and sent to all CSC’s out there so we can see if we can start something potentially game changing for our Club.
There would be no losers in this someone will be getting help while we possibly help ourselves in the long run.
I am sure we all agree we need to do something.
Excellent idea! It will give us some idea of how much we could raise. I’ll make my own donation right away. It’s a start. Well done Charlie.
Make cheque out to:
‘Celtic FC Foundation’
send to:
Celtic FC Foundation
Celtic Park
Glasgow G40 3RE
A lot of us don’t do/can’t do online banking and suchlike. Old school!
I also remember when everything was done in cash, payday, Thursday after work.
Ghirls/Bhoys, give what you can. In an ideal world we wouldn’t need charity but our world is far from ideal. I think you noticed!
cheques made out to: ‘Celtic FC Foundation’
send to: Celtic FC Foundation, Celtic Park,
Glasgow G40 3RE See the official website for other methods of payment.
Make it happen, how about a ‘just giving’ web page. I can’t remember the last time I wrote a cheque but a charity donation link keeping payment simple and easy ought to work.
And I’d go along with a fund to help purchase a marquee signing (even if he has to sit on the bench and watch Leigh Griffiths bang the goals in).
Setting up a PayPal Account is as easy as joining your average site.
Here’s the Link
https://www.paypal.com/uk/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=xpt/Help/general/TopQuestion2-outside
Just follow the steps.
https://www.paypal.com/signup/account?country.x=GB&locale.x=en-GB
Timothy. I was going to add that I’m old school and don’t know much about Paypal and suchlike. I remember when everything was done in cash: payday Thursday after work, cash in an envelope. I still write cheques but can see the day when all that paper will disappear. Maybe one of youse younger guys can set up a page where we give to Celtic Foundation but can tally the ‘marquee’ signing idea as well as a test of how much we could raise for the ‘marquee’. I put in a tenner today but could afford more than that down the road. If every Celtic fan worldwide put in a tenner then we’d have Messi at Celtic Park! The Celtic Foundation does good work in the tradition of our club supporting struggling families on hard times, especially at Christmas. Win/win situation.
Tell us how much the parasites are taking out the club first
The Accounts are there for all too see Tully.
http://cdn.celticfc.net/assets/downloads/Celtic_plc_Annual_Report_2015.pdf
There is a conversation currently taking place on other sites regarding fan ownership that would also benefit from knowing just how many fans out there would be serious about making changes for the better at our Club.
This idea above is a sure fire way of finding that out.
A small £5 donation from us all should send out a clear message to those you refer to as Parasites that Football WITH FANS really is something.
HH
These fivers go direct to the Foundation bud where they will be put to very good use.
Think i’m going to have to invest in either a pair of Binoculars or a telescope to read this website.
Jesus can ye not make the script a little bigger? What is set at 8pts?
I’m only a young man and i’m squinting trying to read it!!
Sort it ooot!
Can you not enlarge the page top right Shug?
Shug,
Stop masturbating, it affects the vision….
Allegedly….ahem.
A top marquee signing of say 6 million wages of 50 thousand a werk, double the top earners who I. Sure would be disgruntled, on a 3 year deal.
Would costv 52wks x 3yrs x £50,000 = £7.8 million
Plus 6million plus bonuses plus signing on fee
At a rough guess would cost in excess of £16 million would require over 3 million fivers
Good idea in theory but don’t know if it is viable
Though in.total agreement something needs to change just not sure how
There are we ae led to believe an estimated 9 million Tims Worldwide John.
If even half that figure put a £5 in that’s over £20m every year.
IF some like myself chuck £50 at then who knows where it could end up?
I should imagine once the figures started gaining some momentum then others more sceptical might We don’t just think “fuck it it’s a Fiver” and chuck one or two in?
The thing is we don’t actually know until we ask the question?
Well my Fiver is in I am prepared to ask the question and find out.
I put another Five in for the Foundation anyway as I always give a wee bit to Charity over Christmas I figured it’s as well at the Celtic Foundation than anywhere else.
HH
i think you’ll find the foundation is a charity ands therefore could not get into any of those arrangements OSCAR would be on them like a ton of bricks
The Club gives to the Foundation every year Franny as far as I am aware so there mus be a means by which say the Interest from such a Fund could be Donated or even an extra quid(optional) could be Donated to the Foundation.
Let’s not be caught up in what cannot be done eh let’s focus on what could be done or achieved.
A large amount of Celtic Fans Worldwide has the capability and potential to change things for the positive on and off the Park at Celtic.
That at least is a route worth exploring is it not?
£5 mate that’s all let’s find out.
HH
Great idea. Will gladly contribute. Hail Hail
Superb let us know when you do Gav HH
What we should do is wait for a sugar daddy to bank roll our future with top new signings and a golden future in Europe and beyond. I can almost see the moon beams now…
On another note, I think it’s a great and very positive idea with a solution rather than “mumping of gums”. I think it should be put to the board for a means of facilitating and also a commitment from them that the fund would be in addition to rather than instead of existing transfer money.
Well done on trying to solve the problem rather than just pointing out the problem.
Exactly Kenny the only way to get money men to a Table is by using Money as a means to draw them there.
Donate £5 to the Foundation and let us all find out if it is possible.
Tully it seems you have a problem , maybe you are reading and believing the wrong people .
We are trying to help the funding of Celtic , not criticising hat maybe or may not be agnuine concern which we cannot do anything about
My problem Damian is I am fed up putting my cash into the club I love and watching these parasites on th board taking it out
Go to the original Thread Tully https://etims.net/?p=7914
you will see if such a Fund was to exist it would have to be agreed before hand this money should only be used for Marquee signings and a percentage to the Foundation for Charitable aims.
The Club would continue to runs as normal.
It’s a fiver mate consider it a Celtic response to “For Every Celtic spend…”
A fiver that’s it once a year bud.
If we all of us put a £5 in theres a potential for £20m a year possibly double if the 9 million Tims Worldwide is true.
Agreed!
I have just Donated £10 to the Foundation
I have also put *PlayerFund at the bottom of the Donation so the Club know it is linked to this Idea.
If another 10 donate £5 each I will Donate a further £10 today.
The ball is rolling on this I hope we can all give it a push to get some momentum going.
HH
I don’t want to ‘run cold water’ on this idea but I think things are a bit hurried without definite direction.
Within just a matter of a few days, the idea has gone from a “Marquee player” fund to a charitable donation.
Both, in themselves, fine but not the same thing.
Also within the same time-frame, feelers are out on another Tim site regarding a Fan-based buy-out of Celtic.
All three would be ideal, but personally I think a sharp focus is needed to get ONE thing at a time, i.e a need for Fans’ communication to ascertain the most popular move forward before donating. I’ve recently bought a few Celtic shares. In due course I’ll happily donate them to whatever I feel is the best option with the highest chance of success.
I only bought the shares to help make a start on genuine Fans’ attempts to play a very active part in the future success and running of our Club. The shares were not and will not ever be used for anything other than donating, i.e. I will not get any return on them and that’s exactly what I want.
On another note, some terriffic play today, great game against a good team and with the right result. Don’t want to single anyone out but LG gets us results and young Kieran Tierney followed up his performance against Dun. Utd. with another truly outstanding display.
HH
I too have shares and will do likewise Vinny as and when the time comes for such a thing.
Gladly.
I put this idea forward to Peter Lawwell 4 years ago bud he was not dismissive of it in any way.
However he did state that the Club was embarking on other ways to generate cash for Investment.
That has turned out to be the current transfer Policy.
The main reason for donating to the Foundation is not to determine what route we should take (as you rightly point out there are several ideas being floated atm)but to determine how many out there in Celtic Land would actually get involved.
It’s market research if you like except the spin off this time is the Celtic Foundation benefit directly over the Christmas period and beyond.
The only thing that will make money men take immediate notice is money pal.
A sudden influx to The Foundations Funds will make an immediate impact.
It will also give us all a true indicator as to whether ANY of these ideas are worth pursuing?
What is there to lose by trying?
£5 to a good cause.
If you smoke go without a pack of fags or a Fish Supper this week.
But please let us all find out.
Vinnie my post went Awol bud so here goes with another..
I get what you are saying about things not being set in concrete etc and different ideas perhaps colliding or muddying the waters.
Thing is for any idea to have any foundation you have to first find out if there is a call for it or a need for it.
The Marquee Player Fund is a conceivable idea as is a fan led takeover.
Thing is no matter what ideas come through they all need fan Support for them to come anywhere near the sit down and talk seriously stage.
This idea I have suggested on this Thread is a fact finding mission but with the added benefit of boosting the Celtic Foundations funds as a bi product of it.
It’s all one asking folk to pledge etc but the thing is these things ae very seldom that accurate as folk will inevitably cclick like pledge an imaginary amount and move on.
Come to doing it for real then some might not bother?
This way it’s a quick Fiver (or whatever you feel you want to donate)and we get hard fact to present to the Board or whoever when the time comes to do so.
If the figures are favourable it will reflect in the Foundations Accounts and trust me those who run Celtic will take notice.
No harm is done by finding the facts out.
In fact quite the opposite as we know for a fact any money Donated through this will be put to very good use and a great many folk in need might benefit from it.
£5 that’s all it takes.
If the Celtic Family responds then it could just be the catalyst needed to get folk sat down round a nice table at Celtic Park.
Nothing ventured nothing gained as they say.
HH
Charlie. I just donated £10 to the fund so count me as one of your ten! If we get a marquee fund, I think I could spare £100 because I like the idea.
No probs Devoy and if you happen to frequent any other sites etc please do spread the word the more Tims who respond to this the better for all concerned.
I agree with what Vinnie had to say and replied but my post evaporated into the Ether again.
Thing is all of these ideas are dependant on one thing CELTIC FANS Celtic Fans getting mobilised.
This exercise will give a good indication as to whether there really is an appetite to make positive changes to how our Club approaches things in the future.
At the same time the Celtic Foundation of course get a boost over the Festive Period.
Win Win Win as far as I am concerned and that is why we all must at least give it a try?
£5 that’s it that’s all you need give and put *PlayerFund in the comments box.
Has this thread put folk off the idea of a Fund as there seemed to be plenty positive feedback on the original thread a few week ago?
All I ask is those who are positive about doing SOMETHING as a fanbase respond by making a small Donation to the Celtic Foundation.
Some folk dink- Go without 2pints
Some folk Smoke-Buy a pack less this week
Some folk eat Takeaways- Skip a fish Supper or Kebab this week
Some folk Gamble-put a Fiver less on this week
Some folk use Taxis-walk a couple more miles this week
Some folk give to charity-Give it to the Foundation this week
There are multiple things we all do that we don’t think twice about that cost us that wee bit extra every week luxuries if you like.
If we are to be serious about changing how things are done at Celtic from a fan perspective then we really need to get an idea of roughly how many of us there are actually willing to do so.
I am prepared to put up or shut up on this this is why I put my tenner in yesterday it has to start somewhere other than a few words on a page on an Internet Site.
Devoy has also decided it worth finding out just how conceivable it is for a fanbase to mobilise and make changes from far and wide?
I don’t live in Scotland now,I don’t know where Devoy is from but our money is exactly the same when we send it to it’s destination.
Each quid has the same amount of power as the next and this is the beauty of this it has no physical boundaries.
Fans who follow Celtic from afar can have the same desired affect as those who live 10 minutes walk from Paradise.
This is the beauty of the idea we all become one regardless of location,vocation and circumstances.
£5 that’s it enter the club website http://charity.celticfc.net/pages/donate click and send.
Remember to put *Player Fund on the notes so the Club know why you did.
The more of these Fivers that get banked the more notice they will take.
Let’s find out folks nothing ventured nothing gained I say.
Either way we will be helping someone out this Christmas.
Bump
Will send a cheque this week.
Nice one spread the word if you use other sites bud this needs to get out far and wide for it to register at the Club.
HH
Bump
Time to find out.
Yer £5 will go to a good cause.
End the Celtic gravy train ! Celtic people put money into the club gladly but are fed up watching these parasites taking it out in wages,bonuses and putting crap on the park
Tully we can end it but it is going to take serious numbers.
To know if folk are prepared to do something we need to have valid proof there is an appetite for such a thing.
The whole point of the Exercise I have stated above is to find that out.
So please folks if you do anything this week send a wee Donation to the Foundation and mark it a *PlayerFund.
Time we all put up or shut up moaning about things.
You eitjer are serious about other option or you are not.
HH