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Celtic Diary Monday October 19: So, It’s Not Just Fitba Refs.

Away from the football, Scotland played a rugby world cup quarter final yesterday, and in time honoured fashion, snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Although a spirited and inspired performance against a team of greater technical ability, the Scots put on a terrific show, and were only beaten by a dodgy refereeing decision.

In Rugby, a referee can halt proceedings and watch an incident again, in order to make sure he gets it right. He is aided by other officials in a wee room with a telly, and linked up by radiomike.

However, the incident which led to the last minute Australian penalty isn’t one that he could have called a halt for, and so controversially , the aussies got the penalty and won the game.

So it appears that tv reruns aren’t perfect either.

And anyway, if the facility had been applied to , say the Motherwell game on Saturday, and referee Alan Muir could have watched a rerun of say, the foul on Scott Brown, his colleagues in the wee room, say Willie Collum and John Beaton, supervised by Calum Murray, would have probably decided on a booking for Brown and a touchline ban for Neil Lennon.

Actually, the truth is that Muir felt a bit of rectal wind coming on, and asked a Motherwell player to pull his finger…

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What you will notice is the clamour for the rugby ref to explain himself, and the demands for him to be expelled from the game. A bit like they don’t do in football, because in football these things even themselves out, you know. It’s just that anti Celtic decisions are on a two hundred year cycle, and we can expect to get a dodgy throw in sometime in 2188.

Although Campbell Ogilvie, still being kept alive to prevent any investigation into tax fraud at ibrox, , and consequently still in  in charge at the SFA, will probably cancel it on appeal.

As James MacLean, the Ireland winger who has been the subject of abuse himself, said on twitter;

Wail til wer goan for 10 n a row. Sevco refs will be thruwin da ball into our net!

Never mind. Celtic might soon have friends in high places.

Former defender Ramon Vega has decided he may stand for the soon to be vacant  Presidency of FIFA.

He said;

 “I come without baggage and I have substantial experience from both football and in finance.” 

I would have thought that mentioning anything about experience in the world of finance where FIFA were concerned would induce a sharp intake of breath at their headquarters, but it seems not, and they will discuss his candidacy later this week.

In political circles it’s not unheard of to go for the middle candidate, in order to unify all factions involved, and someone with a spotless public record might just be what the game needs to help clean it up.

With Blatter’s reign likely to come to an end, and allegations that Platini has been just as careless with money, then perhaps we will see the big man as the new boss of world football.

Bookmakers and league sponsors Ladbrokes are determined to move away from the controversy surrounding their refusal to take bets on under pressure Aberdeen boss Derek McInnes being the next SPL manager to be sacked.

They have a competition for “fan of the week ” , and just look at the delight on the face of the wee boy who won it when he was told his prize was two more tickets to watch Motherwell.

While Ladbrokes are obviously, in their minds at least, doing their bit to get kids interested in the game again, they could maybe have got someone else to write the piece which accompanied the article, which appeared in the Record;

But a quick bit of advice for the kid, no point getting upset by a Celtic defeat, wait until you’re being beat 5-0 at home to Kilmarnock on a freezing December night. 

Yeah, that should give him something to look forward to. Still, I suppose it’s better than having to go to Kilmarnock, without artillery support and helicopter back up.

Of course , heading to the football is usually safe , and we can rely on the police , for instance, to assist if you suffer some sort of medical emergency, perhaps in immediate need of assistance.

Such as happened after the Motherwell game, where a man collapsed and was in need of help as he left the ground. This was spotted by the police, who took prompt action and chased a supporter who had had his photo taken with a celtic player during a lull in play, as the Celt warmed up on the touchlines.

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Thats pepper spray, presumably used in the absence of halls methol lyptus to help people breathe more easily, and thats officer 2358 who’s take on the incidents after the game should make for intersting reading.

Police Scotland.

Even as we speak, the high heid yins  are deep in discussion about the incident

The next ten  days or so sees Celtic battling in three tournaments, starting with the Europa Leaguye on Thursday, where the hoops face Molde, a norwegian side who everyone thought would be there to make up the numbers, but who have, in fact, recorded the only win in the group so far, a stunning 3-1 crushing of Fenerbache.

Match reports from that one indicate that the Turks couldn’t handle the morwegian sides  “strong, mobile front pairing “, which means we might as well see what else is on tv Thursday night.

But Celtics away form in Europe, although lacking in victories, isn’t bad at all, and it will only take the smallest of steps to lift it up and earn a potentially season defining win in Norway.

And with Ronny Deila being a norwegain fellow, then there’s no doubt he will be on personal terms with everyone at molde and probably know more about them than he does Celtic.

I thought i’d get that in before some clown in the papers makes the absurd connection that despite being at Celtic for a while, ronny still has his hands on the tiller over there.

No doubt Deila will not need to study footage of Molde’s 3-1 win over Mjondalen at the weekend, as he knew beforehand what the score would be and how they would play.

The rest of us, and the MSM , will be wondering who the hell Mjondalen are.

As for Thursday, I’ll wait and see who is fit for the game before deciding how far to sit away from the telly, and how many fingers i’ll need to cover my eyes with.

Though I doubt i’ll stay in that position for long. Especially if we score.

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The picture quiz yesterday may have been a little easier than  thought, as I hadn’t noticed the answer printed on the side of the image.

Never mind, here’s a picture that needs an explanation.

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And i usually bought all the official singles released by the club.

Must have missed this one.

 

 

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8 years ago

Quiet on here today, folk got the Monday blues?

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Jimthetim

Afternoon Jim.

adam rush
8 years ago

Hi guys- great blogs-witty etc. watched the highlights at fir park-looks like Broony’s foot rolled on the ball and that caused his stumble-so the pen iffy ? Of course h/ball beyond dispute ! Hampden+this= bias evidenced by Masonic handshakes etc.

You and many Celtic fans may cringe at this BUT- for over 25 years I have felt that the only way to exert some pressure on “these peepal” is to bring a case against the relevant body- SPFL ? ALONG THE LINES OF,

FOR MANY YEARS THE HUMAN RIGHTS OF CELTIC FC AND THEIR SUPPS HAVE BEEN ABUSED BY SCOTTISH REFEREES (WITH OBVIOUS OFFICIAL SANCTION) AND SAID ABUSE IS BASED ENTIRELY ON ETHNIC AND RELIGIOUS GROUNDS AND AS SUCH IS IN VIOLATION OF THE PRINCIPLES OF UEFA REGARDING RACISM IN FOOTBALL. WE THEREFORE CALL ON THE EUROPEAN COURT FOR HUMAN RIGHTS TO SANCTION/PRESSURISE THE SCOTTISH FOOTBALL AUTHORITIES TO CEASE FORTHWITH EMPLOYING REFEREES FROM A SECRET SOCIETY/RANGERS SUPPORTING BACKGROUND WHO REPEATEDLY SHOW ANTI-CELTIC BIAS.

THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY CELTIC SUPPORTING LAWYERS IN SCOTLAND AND I THINK CELTIC FANS SHOULD FORM AN UMBRELLA GROUP AND TAKE LEGAL ADVICE ON THIS ISSUE.EVEN THE MERE PUBLIC DISCUSSION OF SUCH A PROPOSED MOVE SHOULD EXERT SOME PRESSURE ON THE MANURES, McLEANS AND THOMSONS OF THIS WORLD. ON A STATISTICAL BASIS, I THINK BIAS IS PROVEABLE !!! eg HAMPDEN/MEEKINGS etc 6 OFFICIALS MISS A BLATANT H/BALL- THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE, DITTO FIR PARK ON SAT.IT IS OBVIOUS THE FORCES OF DARKNESS ARE TOTALLY CONFIDENT THEY CAN CONTINUE THEIR ANTI-CELTIC JIHAD,

LETS FORCE THE FILTH AND THEIR LAWYERS TRY TO CONVINCE A NON-PARTIAL EUROPEAN COURT THAT CELTIC NOT GETTING ANY PENS BETWEEN 1990-92 IS SOMEHOW NORMAL ? + ALL THE REST OF THE NEVER-ENDING BALLOCKS. I’VE FOLLOWED CELTIC FOR 55 YEARS AND EVEN THOUGH I’M NOT IRISH OR RC AND HAVE LIVED IN LONDON FOR 40 YEARS I’M CELTIC THROUGH AND THROUGH.

I THINK THIS IS WORTH DOING . I KNOW THE COUNTER ARGUMENTS-EVERYONE GETS BAD DECISIONS,THEY EVEN THEMSELVES OUT. MATT MCGLONE DID A SURVEY ONCE- RESULT WAS FOR EVERY THREE BAD CELTIC GET ONE GOOD ! SO MUCH FOR THAT ARGUMENT. I THINK THIS ARGUMENT IS THE MOST POWERFUL,

GO TO AN OLD FIRM GAME AND JUST LISTEN TO THE HYSTERICAL,ATAVISTIC RACIAL HATRED EMANATING FROM THE RANGERS “SUPPORT”- NOW TAKE ANY ONE OF THESE PEEPAL,PUT THEM INTO A REFS KIT AND HAVE THEM REF A CELTIC GAME,NEVER MIND AN OF GAME,

WHAT THE FUCK D’YOU THINK YOU’RE GOING TO GET ?

HAIL ! HAIL !

elcormaco
8 years ago

I didn’t see Scotland in the rugby having just watched the Argentinian team crush my boys in green but youse were properly fucked over by the ref who scampered off to see if he’d got his well done text from wilie collum yet .
I did see Muirs latest interpretation of the rules, including his reading of handball: permissable if it stops Celtic scoring, foul play in the box, the same and serious foul play, if he is wearing can and white hoops go for it
no one can be entirely sure it’s bias on his part though the evidence is certainly growing. what even the SFA would have to concede is that he is simply not good enough and shouldn’t do to fight games there might be a lower league team he could home his skills at. mind you is the SFA so expect a promotion soon.
not very impressed with how we played, and Ciftci scored but is pretty rank rotten and Brown aside very little drive from the rest something that’s happening a fair bit

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  elcormaco

elcormaco,
I don’t understand why you are saying Ciftci is rank rotten?
His Celtic career is only getting started, does he not deserved to be judged at the end of the season?
I think Ciftci will get goals for Celtic and if Deila showed a plan B and played 2 up front at times, we might see the goals come.
Ciftci deserves a run in the team.

elcormaco
8 years ago
Reply to  Monti

I hope he proves me wrong but so far it’s stuff like movement, first touch, awareness, goal scoring instinct and temperament, and none of which I’ve been impressed with do far.
I saw him play a fair bit for Dundee United and didn’t think he was Celtic class then, and if anything my opinion has gone down. to be clear I’ve nothing against Celtic looking to spl for players, I just don’t rate Ciftci. I’ll apologise if time proves me wrong. HH

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  elcormaco

elcormaco,
I just think he needs games m8, fitness and confidence will bring the goals….Hopefully!

deadhead67
8 years ago

I Remember a scottish referee being demoted to grade 3 when the hearts owner Wallace Mercer,complained about them not getting a penalty at celtic park,Think it was kevin O,Donnell funny irish name so probably a tim at least in SFA,S MIND.

Devoy45
8 years ago

Walter Smith of old Rangers also did the same thing and got a ref banned or demoted. That ref too had an Irish name. I can’t remember the details but I’m sure someone will remind me.

Doc
8 years ago
Reply to  Devoy45

Was that the time he said “refs with names like that should not be allowed to referee r*ngers games”?

Eduardo the vagrant
8 years ago

Is that Morrissey in the middle???

Whoriskey
8 years ago

Talking of rugby and referees, wouldn’t it have been revealing to have heard what Muir and his assistant mason said to each other had they been mic’d up? I can only imagine it would have been along the lines of “Did ye see that?” and the reply, “Couldnae fecking miss it. Keep your arms down or I’ll have to give it.” There was just no legitimate excuse to ignore the handball or the other penalty incident so it must be deliberate. If we are ever going to get a fair deal, (well, as near as we will ever get from the SFA), on the pitch then maybe we should be starting a supporters campaign for having the refs mic’d up as they are in the rugby, and instant replay for penalty decisions, etc. I don’t think it would slow the game down any more than the rolling around on the ground when some striker has had his hair messed up by a defender. Or, indeed as much as watching the ball go sideways and back against massed defences. Of course, the fans in high places of the tribute act will never allow it to happen and we will be forced to score more of the chances we squander if we want to succeed. We need goals!

salad gueen
8 years ago

Nearly missed the Cockley builder, 4th from left without his braces.

Charlie Saiz
8 years ago

The most curious aspect watching the Rugby was John Inverdale asking Alan Muir his opinion on the Aussie Handling errors throughout..
Muirs reply was “what handball incidents John”

tom o'neill
8 years ago

Watties man was Tom Murphy.
In the late sixties Another tottie muncher called Callaghan was disciplined when he d8id nothing about a Celtic player who blatantly kneed an opponent in the stones.
Watching from the Jungle I knw that Callagan’s tea was oot.

john McCabe
8 years ago
Reply to  tom o'neill

Tom, his name was Callahan, he was from Bain St in the Calton, he went to St alphonsus, his nickname was Kettle, was a good friend off my Dad John McCabe, a Calton man, I had a few drinks with him on a Sunday, in Bairds, The Huns said he should have sent OFF big Yogi, Celts won 1-0, he was demoted.

tom o'neill
8 years ago

Apologies for appalling typos.

Delbhoy
8 years ago

I really think we are wasted not playing two up front , cifti would come into his own playing beside griffiths, we could also have kept scepovic and rotated him with griff , you could clearly see the guy was suffering having to lead the line on his own when he is a poacher, pure and simple. And now scoring again in Spain.

Monti
8 years ago
Reply to  Delbhoy

Delbhoy,
I think a Celtic side with only one striker is a crime m8!

It must be a strike partnership for me….We always had a strike pair, it’s the Celtic way!

8 years ago

You know what I don’t understand about RDs keep fit campaign? He previously stated that we should not risk players injuries being aggravated by not resting them and allowing them to recover eg. James Forrest.

Now he seems to be boasting that Broony and SJ have been playing through niggles (or worse) at his behest.

Cuj1888
8 years ago

Surely that’s the Hampden in the Sun legends

Al Bundy
8 years ago

Photie Some sort of “Old Firm” select.Handsome Celts include,Willie Fernie,Neil Mochan,Jim Kennedy and I think Joe McBride,.Huns Horrors include Doug Baillie,(Morrissey),Bobby,(Captain cutlass)Shearer and penalty taker supreme Johnny Hubbard.The Mason in the black is Jack Mowat.Ask yer Da/Granda about they horrors.

8 years ago
Reply to  Al Bundy

Asked an old guy in the pub this afternoon and he recognised Fernie & Mochan so you are right I think.

Monti
8 years ago

3-5-2

Gordon

Lustig Boyata Simunovic

Janko. Izaguirre
Brown Bitton

Armstrong

Ciftci. Griffiths

To give Brown a rest at times, we could play Johansen in the middle beside Bitton, Forrest could play in the hole behind the strikers, as could Commons or GMS.

JoeC
8 years ago

The Celts in the photo are reading from the left – Jim Kennedy ( # 3 ), Dunky McKay ( # 2 ), Joe McBride ( # 5 ), Neilly Mochan ( # 6 ), Ronnie Simpson ( right behind Mochan) and last but not least Willie Fernie ( # 4 ).

Al Bundy has the names for three of the Former Rangers ex-players correct – that should read four when you include the ref !

Not sure of the two on the left but have an inkling that one of them may have been an ex-Tottenham midfielder.

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