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Celtic Diary Wednesday April 22: Well, I Never Thought I’d See The Day…

A big well done to the Daily Record, and Michael Gannon!

For taking a wider look at an issue, and publishing the conclusion.

No, you’re not on the wrong site, but as the diary always says, if you are to be the first to criticise, you must also be the first to offer praise.

Referee Steven McLean hasn’t just riled Celtic..

he’s caused fury at nearly EVERY ground in the country!

MacLean article

It’s worth a read, and shows that perhaps controversial whistler Steven MacLean isn’t biased, or corrupt, but in fact he’s just bloody useless.

Which we suspected all along, because after all, theres a way of telling an incompetent referee in Scotland.

He’ll have one of these on his shirt.

“Handballgate “-look, I can be a lazy writer as well- took another bizarre twist yesterday when Inverness supplementary goalkeeper Josh Meekings was offered a one match ban for the handball which no-one at the ground noticed-at least according to referee chief JohnFlemming.

Thats how it works, so the beaks are only following the rules-a novel and refreshing outlook for them-and it’s Meekings, who is guilty, who is in bother.

There is no suggestion that he is being used as a whipping boy to deflect attention away from MacLeans performance. Nor is the quiet pushing of MacLean down to fourth official at the Hamilton game this weekend, where presumably the beaks thing he can do lesss harm. Good luck to both Peterhaed and Airdrie though, they’ve got Alan “Face ” Muir in charge of their game. How he will manage to read the signposts on the road north is a bit of a puzzler , though. And I’ll wager his passengers have been out buying crash helmets this morning.

It’s a bit harsh on Meekings, that he may now miss the cup final, but he committed the offence, and had the referee been up to it, he’d be banned anyway. So sympathy for him is in short supply.

Come to think of it, you could argue that had he been penalised, the rest of his mates would be missing the cup final as well.

It’s called taking one for the team, which is what he was doing anyway.

Former compliance officer Vincent Lunny claimed that the letter Celtic sent to the SFA regarding the offence would have had no impact on current incumbent Tony MacGlennan when he decided to issue the ban.

 “I don’t accept that. Tony is a very experienced Advocate with many years experience at the very top level in criminal legal circles.

“He will be making a decision based on the application of the rules. Just to put that to the side – the social media and the Celtic aspect would be a complete irrelevant consideration. It is a question of does the action match up with the criteria within the protocol? If it doesn’t then he will be cleared; if it does he will get the one-match ban.” 

It’s the first time that denying a  goal scoring opportunity has been the subject of a retrospective ban, but Lunny claimed that the possibility of such a scenario  had  already been discussed;

“It is the very first one in the four years of protocol, It has been discussed previously at the various annual reviews. It is clearly covered by the rules; it is a missed sending-off offence not seen by the match officials and that covers all potential sending-off offences, so it would be dangerous not to do it because you would then be making an exception that isn’t present in the rules.

“The rules are there to cover all situations where the match officials have missed a sending-off offence and you are trying, as best you can, to put that player back in the position that it had been seen at the time and he’d been red-carded.”  

Just one comment.

Why is Lunny doing the talking ?

Why not MacGlennan ?

As far as I can see it’s just another example of the SFA deciding that they have to explain their actions, as they survey their little fiefdom from their ivory towers.

And it’s another reason why the sooner we can clean the whole lot out and start again, the sooner we can get back to enjoying football again, on a level field.

Away from all that for now, there’s a game tonight. Celtic have to pick themselves up and get back to winning ways at Dens Park to at least make sure that the rest of the season goes to plan, and a fourth successive title is secured.

John Collins summed up the mood in the camp;

“I think the boys are professionals. Everybody will keep talking about it for a few more days, but the important thing is that we move on.

“We had a terrific session today, it was important the boys got back out on the grass again and were re-focused and ready for a big game at Dundee We’ve been playing well and we want to win the league, sooner rather than later.

Back on the grass ?

Fuck me. It’s only a couple of weeks since they were moaning about teacakes. I think I’m on the point of spotting why the players looked a little tired on Sunday.

“We’ve got to think about one thing, the next game. It has gone. We move on. It is painful because it was a massive, key moment in the season. If the correct decision had been given it was game over, and we would have been in the final.

 That’s a fact, there was no coming back if the right decision was given, but it wasn’t.” 

Hopefully, thats just teacakes in the box.

Tea Bhoys ... Ronny Deila and John Collins dished out the teacakes at Lennoxtown this morning

Hopefully, the players will be hurting after Sunday, and we might get that 7-0 yet…

Though I have to admit to being less than optimistic. They have struggled in the last couple of games, and certainly don’t like it when the other side pressures them high up the pitch. add that to a defensive frailty of late, a lack of good decision making and the endemic woeful finishing, and we’ll be lucky to get a draw.

 The run in might not be as easy as we previously thought, and the experienced lads will need to lead from the front tonight. I can’t see Celtic chucking it away now, theres too much of a gap.

 but I can do without the squeaky bum.

 Elsewhere, there seems to be a story developing along the lines that Celtic have written to the SFA, and possibly FIFA or UEFA , about the granting of a licence to old Rangers so that they could play in the Champions League some years ago. As they owed tax at the time, that should not have happened, and it’s been a bit of a sore point with a lot of supporters, not only of Celtic, but of an entirely unheard of concept within the game called fair play.

 If you want to keep in touch with this, keep an eye on Phil MacGhiollabhans webblog.

As yet, Celtic haven’t commented, but we hear that no letter has been written, so its probably on Platinis desk as we speak.

 On the subject of Cheaters FC, now known as The Rangers, Walter smith, the legendary manager of the old club who didn’t make the jump to the new one, apart from a brief stint in the boardroom, where he decided not to get involved, has absolved his old pal Ally Mccoist-remember him?- of any blame for the current predicament the Ibrox franchise are in on the pitch.

They were very close;

Walter Smith mentored Ally McCoist

 He blames the board, and not McCoistinho, and even goes so far as to add;

“I got great support from Sir David Murray but it’s not turned out that they have had the same support from the people who have been running the club. So it has been very difficult for them to show what they can do.

“That’s the crux of the matter, it’s the circumstances they have been in that have caused them as much trouble as anything else.” 

 And , true to form, the journalist didn’t think to point out that the support given to Smith by Murray was in fact, largely what killed the old club. Still, they don’t want to upset people.

Look at Prince Charles, he must have upset someone. He wakes up with a horses head on his pillow every morning.

 I knew that my  praise for the papers wouldn’t last long. But at least we have seen the beginnings of a little bit of investigative journlism. not quite Woodward and Bernstein, but its a start.

I have to admit its not what I was expecting, but theres time for the death threat stories yet.

Colin Healy was the man in the picture yesterday.

Today, who is playing at Celtic Park ?

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Kieran Gallagher
9 years ago

I’ll go with U2 or Bryan Adams in 1993…or maybe the Wolfe Tones!!

Gerry Coyle
9 years ago

Go for The Who, way back.

Monti
9 years ago
Reply to  Gerry Coyle

How’s it going Gerry, say hello to Pat and Derek for me! HH!

9 years ago

Rod the mod and a top tim. HH Lets get tore in to Dundee tonight and show them all we mean business and put them all back in their place behind the famous Glasgow Celtic

Ewen
9 years ago

“Today, who is playing at Celtic Park ?”

I see what you did there.

caltonlad
9 years ago

“And it’s another reason why the sooner we can clean the whole lot out and start again, the sooner we can get back to enjoying football again, on a level field.”

Couldn’t agree more.

Charlie Saiz
9 years ago

The Who.

So Ally McCoist got to spend money on players they never had to build a team that cost way more than anyone else in the Divisions they sauntered through whilst putting the Club deeper and deeper into Financial Peril and “walter” thinks he never had the backing he required?

So how do you explaing his showing in the Ramsden/ Chip Poke Cup then walter of Legned?

The Silver Fhox
9 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Smith was also a duff manager who could not have survived without chucking other peoples money to pull in players. He couldn’t spell development, never mind know what it means. He is simply over-rated.

salad gueen
9 years ago

The answer is in the question.

John
9 years ago

The Who

salad gueen
9 years ago

If we can’t get rid of the cheats how about a move to England?

deadhead67
9 years ago

The only reason meekings is getting a retrospective red card,is to prove the SFA point that the ref did not see the offence,when clearly he did and just ignored it,hey but im a paranoid tim bastard in their eyes

Monti
9 years ago
Reply to  deadhead67

Your just a bastard in my eyes!

Jerseybhoy
9 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Hail Hail to that Monti.

JRB1
9 years ago
Reply to  deadhead67

Stupid ‘thick’ bastard at that!

Dan The Man
9 years ago
Reply to  deadhead67

Never thought I would see the day DH67 but I totally agree with one of your posts.

Old Father Tim
9 years ago

PICTURE QUIZ That is the day Celtic beat Dundee to win the league in our CENTENARY YEAR

andy bhoy
9 years ago
Reply to  Old Father Tim

No it’s not. Check out the Celtic end and main stand, no new roof on the Celtic end and no new frontage at the main stand.

franko
9 years ago

Here’s my thoughts on why they have offered Meekings a retro red card……

He wins the appeal, therefore ref is ‘proven’ to have been correct, everyone else is wrong and Celtic are paranoid moaners.

Camberwick Green
9 years ago

Billy Graham

elcormaco
9 years ago

“I got great support from Sir David Murray” – Walter Smith
“You’re welcome” said the British tax payer, several years later.

So lets get this straight:

Player handles ball, in front of referee, linesman and goal line official.

Play continues, no foul play

Later, player is cited and banned for hand ball.

My reading of this is that SFA have thrown Meekings under the bus, while exonerating the referee. The compliance officer gets involved when officials miss an incident, so the conclusion is that 6 officials are all insisting they didn’t see an incident and so allowing the compliance officer to become involved. Not that they saw it but deemed it ball to hand, but that they failed to see it.

From my point of view this is missing the point. The player did what he did and I m sure many others would have done the same thing. Cynical or not, he was doing his bit for the team. The officials however are it seems allowed to escape without censure, “I didnae see it” accepted as a legitimate excuse. What odds some kind of conversation took place in the referees room right after the game, where they all agreed the line was they didn’t see it, let the player be dealt with later and if we all stick together there is no way they can prove we saw it?

If they didn’t see it, why not? If we are to accept they can miss so obvious an incident right in front of them, why should they continue to do their jobs?

I saw some other Mc Clean & team incidents – a good Aberdeen goal ruled out offside, Pukki booked for diving after being tripped, Scepovic on side goal ruled out etc, and if we stay away from any conspiracy theory, then there is ample evidence he is not good enough to do the job, and certainly not show piece games like cup semi finals. So if the SFA via their compliance officer are seeing fit to retrospectively punish the player (and let the feeling grow that it was big bad Celtic who got the player banned when it was nothing of the sort), and personally I don’t feel that is right, then they must surely also ensure that Mc Clean and his team are not allowed to ref any top flight games until they prove themselves capable of doing the job by being assessed from junior / lower leagues right up again. The game is not about officials, and the SFA has a responsibility to the game as a whole, not their referees at the cost of others.

Monti
9 years ago
Reply to  elcormaco

Excellent!

Charlie Saiz
9 years ago
Reply to  elcormaco

If I was the CEO of Specsavers I would be asking the FA for discount on my Sponsorship of the Refs.
Their share price was actually worse than Rangers International the last time I looked.

bawsman
9 years ago

“the sooner we can get back to enjoying football again, on a level field.”

We had a level playing field?????? When wis that? I must’ve missed that.

Paulbhoy
9 years ago

Anyone travelling up to game from the Ayrshire area tonight or want to go up? Got a spare complimentary if they are willing to drive? Split the fuel??

Gareth Savage
9 years ago

Prince or Billy Graham. Or Celtic?

Monti
9 years ago

For me it was IMPOSSIBLE for six officials to miss the hand ball, I have heard some shite spoken on the radio programmes like ‘ Talksport ‘ where Celtic are being accused of being like a spoiled child, that we think we have a divine right to walk into the final?

I am 43 years old and followed Celtic all my life, when Celtic are hurt I feel it, when our supporters are hurt I feel it.
I have never felt we had a divine right to win any game, I don’t know any Celtic fans who feel we have a divine right to win.
All I want is to enjoy my football and hopefully Celtic emerge winners in any given game, pure and simple.
What we witnessed from the officials on Sunday wasn’t incompetence it was premeditated, blatant cheating.
They must have fucking seen it, must have.

Celtic are right to seek an explanation and we should be exerting our muscle on the SFA.
How much of this are we to take?

It is now Wednesday, I don’t feel any better than I did on Sunday, my/our club have been robbed of a potentially historic season….by one little corrupt wee Hun cunt!

Fucking Raging!

Monti
9 years ago
Reply to  Monti

P.S. Adrian Durham of Talksport is a cunt!

Charlie Saiz
9 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Canny believe you gave him Capitals!

tom campbell
9 years ago

Why did Celtic send a letter when the result will not be changed? Could three domestic defeats in a generally successful season with that same referee in charge have something to do with it?

Or perhaps they are genuinely concerned about the role and responsibilities of ALL the officials at a match: the referee who had almost 100% view, the man behind the goal who probably had 80% view, the ‘linesman’ – normally anxious to get involved and despite his distance almost certainly had the best perspective, the ‘Fourth Official’ who may have had another perspective …

If these officials are hooked up electronically – as I believe they are – then Celtic have a right to know what was being communicated at the time among them. Did they ALL agree it was not a penalty? If it was the referee who ignored advice from his ‘assistants’, then why do we need so many impotent officials?

Paul Fitzpatrick
9 years ago

The who as the stage was at the huns end when U2 played there in 94 !

9 years ago

Thanks Monti, that’s pritty much covers what i was going to write, offensive/ honest use of the word C##T just has tae be used in certain circumstances… HAIL HAIL.

Monti
9 years ago
Reply to  Keighley Bhoy

Tal!

yestim
9 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Agree with you on all points.

This has nothing to do with whether Meekings meant it or not.

It has nothing to do with Celtic getting decisions in the past

It has nothing to do with opponents not getting decisions against Celtic

It has nothing to do with the competence of the match officials

It has nothing to do with Celtic writing to the SFA

It has nothing to do with the result of past games refereed by McLean

It has nothing to do with whataboutery

This is about a decision that we, the Celtic support, are being asked to believe was seen by 50,000 spectators and by none of the six, yes six officials who refereed the game.

I don’t care if Meekings misses the final, I don’t believe ICT deserve to be in the final and I don’t give a f##k about the argument of retrospective punishment.

I don’t even care if Mclean and the rest of the Hampden Six ever referee another game

What I want is someone from the SFA to come out and treat us with the respect and intelligence we deserve (Dickhead 67 don’t include yourself in this last sentence) or forever have us believe that you are all sons of Farry.

Charlie Saiz
9 years ago
Reply to  yestim

Bravo.
Wel said.
Now bow for the Champions ya cunts 😉

elcormaco
9 years ago

If the officials didn’t see anything, as must be the car for the compliance officer to be involved, what was the goal line official saying as the ball came off the guys hand? “I didn’t see that!! I saw nothing. Whatever just happened, I didn’t see it!”
He saw something, or he wouldn’t have communicated to the ref, so it will have to come out what he said, key to ICT defence of the “deliberateness” of the hand ball

Monti
9 years ago

He said ” Fuck them Steven, give them nothing”

Yankee10570
9 years ago

McLean hasn’t caused a problem at every ground though, has he? He hasn’t done ANY harm to Rangers, Sevco and/or Motherwell. In fact, he’s gone out of his way to help them. That’s not “incompetence.” We all know what is going on here, especially the SFA, which is why he was at Hampden in the 1st place.

9 years ago

Ralph

I find when I am seething it is better to stick some tape over one’s lips and remain silent till the tsunami subsides to a tidal wave. Then there is a better chance to see things clearly even though the spray still nips the eyes. So, once the old ticker has slid back from my mouth to its place of origin (somewhere near my arse – bloody botox), I will simply say I sympathise completely with all that is being said and done by all supporters at all clubs – I said “clubs” not “lodges”. When my fangs recede and I have had a good night’s sleep in my long black box down in the cellar, I just might have a word or two to say.

Meantime, I hope tonight effort is key and not anger. As for your 7-0, I am afraid that is in the long black box with a stake through it. That is at the centre of all our defeats and Sunday was no different. If we could score goals in relation to our pressure, 25 SFA officials with Specsaver vision, repay support and no obstructions and a thousand highlanders would not have dented the outcome. Yes, there is a case to put before the heid yins about standards and intentions on the part of the decision makers, about disclosure of persuasions and even blatant bias but in the final analysis, in our position we should not be relying on “good decisions” to decide our fate.

I can not agree with you regarding the Mekins’ ban. It is an utter nonsense with rules suddenly conjured up from the secreted lairs of SFA rulings that no one in the game has ever been made privy to except those tasked with cover-ups in oreder to safeguard the inner circle of officialdom. Consequently, a player is condemned and punished for the inadequacies or “an other” of officials. That is not justice. That is far from fair play no matter what the outcome could or should have been had the “error” not been made. In this case it seems to have ignited the wrath of even FIFA and for them to seek fair play is a real innovation.

There I go. I am determined to say nothing and my wrath hath overpowered my discipline.

Could the gig be U Who howling at Bryan Adams in Wolfe Tones? Like Scottish referees, I like to cover all bets especially with a wee twist here and there.

H H

Tourtenay
9 years ago

I am the compliance officer and I say there is no case to answer regarding Mr Meekings simply because the correct decision should have been made by the officials in charge at the time.
Why five officials in charge of proceedings at the time failed to notice something that everyone in the stadium, including the commentary team saw clearly is a matter for them to resolve not me.
I am not here to preside over examples of complete incompetence on the part of Mr Mclean and his acolytes.
It’s not landing on my desk f@*k off you incompetent fools and sort it out yourself.

Watch Alan Muir rise through the ranks now!
HH

Doc
9 years ago

As Pensionerbhoy says, I have no issue with Meekings, he gambled and won, had he lost he would have been sent off, suspended and responsible for his team missing their first Scottish Cup final. I seem to remember Tom Boyd doing the same in Europe and the opposition (FC Basel?) missed the penalty just like Luis Suarez in the 2010 World Cup.

We didn’t play well enough and let the heads drop after the handball, if Celtic need to rely on competent referees to win games then we are in for one hell of a barren spell. Congratulations to Yogi Hughes and his team and best of luck to them in the final.

The only culprits are the match officials.

Monti
9 years ago
Reply to  Doc

Jeez, that is quite scary!

Charlie Saiz
9 years ago

We were below par again for the bulk of the game tonight again.
I think we have hit a wee slump in form and had we met ICT a month ago they would have been battered all over that big pitch.
Good to see both Johansen and Commons get a wee rest tonight I think they both needed it.
One thing is certain we need to spend on a quality striker if we are serious about Europe this Summer.

Time to speculate to accumulate Pedro.

Vinnie.
9 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Saiz

Bang on, Charlie.
You see what I see. (but I hold the cheque-book)
I’ll be looking flat out whilst I’m on my (extended) holidays (flat out) for a player like the one who shares your 1st name. A real-time Charlie Nicholas, eh ? How about that ? Satisfied ?
Only problem, if/when I find him, I may not be able to shorten my holiday in time to sign him. I might still be flat out !
Roll on the New Year transfer windae, eh ? That is, if we’re still in Europe, eh ?
Charlie, there’s nae need for that. Charlie, NAAAAWWWWW !!!
Pedro L.

salad gueen
9 years ago

Fuck Ca ley huns for the final
doc your are not from elgin or the north.

Ima Timm
9 years ago

Surely there must be someone out there who can lip read? It would be interesting to know what Muir said in his microphone after the hand ball incident?
H.H.

salad gueen
9 years ago

The same lassie that s itches up Nat Fraser.

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