On loan striker John Guidetti has been charged with making an offensive comment under disciplinary rule 1690, after an appearance on Dutch TV when he answered a question about whether or not Celtic fans have a song for him.
The “offending ” ditty contains the line ” the huns are deid “, and as a consequence he’s been hauuled up before the beaks. Presumably unde rthe official secrets act.
While Scottish football authorities bend over backwards, aided by a compliant media, to perpetuate the myth of everlasting life, anyone who points out the truth is in bother.
Celtic issued a statement, backing their player.
THE SFA Compliance Officer has issued a Notice of Complaint to Celtic striker John Guidetti alleging that, in the course of an interview on Dutch TV, he made comment of an offensive nature.
A Celtic spokesperson said: ‘We are very surprised and disappointed that this has even found its way to an SFA judicial panel. John Guidetti will be defending this charge.’
They’re a touchy lot over at the SFA, and have come out with guns blazing at poor Guidetti, who was only repeating the song, and consequently stating the facts.
So, what part was offensive ?
Is it the “deid ” bit, which to be fair, in a properly constructed song should be pronounced “dead “, although poetic licence is used to make it rhyme with “Swede ” in the previous line, or is it the use of the word “hun ” , which these days seems to set them off quicker than it used to ?
The press seem to think its the hun word, which , somewhat hilariously, is now spelt with asterisks to avoid upsetting the faint hearted;
Celtic’s John Guidetti hit with
SFA Notice of Complaint over singing
‘The h*** are deid’ on Dutch TV
Screams the R****d, which due to the offensive nature of most of its content, is now spelt with asterisks, while the origin of the connection, widely tweeted yesterday as a reminder of what the asterisks stood for, used the word in full;
At least, we think it was. Bayern Munich played Rangers in the Cup Winner Cup. Listen to what the Glasgow fans sing….
Rnagers fans sing Go Home Ya Huns
For the definitive meaning of the word, we turn to Arsene Parcelie, linguistics expert, from twitter…
So, former ibrox director Chris Graham tweets a picture of the prohet mohammed involved in an interracial sex act with a movie character, and theres nothing…
A Celtic striker answers a question in a foreign land, and all hell breaks loose.
Good job the compliance officer wasn’t around years ago, he’d have been very busy….
And who can forget the musical talents of fun loving wife beating alcoholic Paul Gascoigne ?
Isn’t it about time for their insolvency event ?
The SFA must be trying to deflect attention away from something.
Is it the fact that Second Rangers have been accused of trading while insolvent again ?
Is it the concerns over an unfit and improper new director ?
Are they having trouble finding a NOMAD , and therefore about to be delisted from the stock exchange ?
Is it because they are unlikely to be promoted from the First Division, and may need a wee bit of league restructuring to help them ?
Could it even be the £45 tickets to watch Scotland against Gibraltar ?
Or are they about to all get a pay rise ?
Or is it just that the SFA are corrupt, and acting with only the interests of one club at heart.
By the way, is it true that David Murray siphoned £100million from the dead club before it died ?
Watch out for an upcoming court case….
We can’t vote them out, but we can refuse to attend SFA events, such as international matches, or refuse to buy international memorabilia.
Club chairmen can though. They need to start thinking of the support .
The SFA may try to tell us that it’s only Celtic fans who are concrned about their inability to do their jobs without fear or favour, but it isn’t.
It’s everyone.
Thats why the new club had to start at the bottom.
I want one of these in the image of Turnbull Hutton… the Kirkcaldy Gunslinger
And i want him to answer the call again. Those feckers need sorting out, and he’s just the man.
We can also write to UEFA and FIFA about suspected corruption within our game, and demand an external investigation. We won’t get one from the media in Scotland, , but there are international sports magazines that would be interested.
Proper journalists, with enquiring minds….
By the way, is it true that David Murray siphoned £100million from the dead club before it died ?
Watch out for an upcoming court case….
Celtic have, as stated, promised to back their player, and perhaps its time for our own PR man, Ian Jamieson to be on the case.
Who ?
Ian Jamieson, Celtics PR man.
Some time ago, I emailed him asking why he allowed a journalist to turn the announcement of a major new kit deal for Celtic into a debate on Irish Republicanism. He has finally replied;
Thanks very much for your recent email to the Club.
Clearly, there has always been huge media interest in the Club and we conduct hundreds of media conferences and interviews every season on various issues whether these concern football matters, the great work of our Foundation, the Club’s commercial activity etc. Given the huge level of interest and range of issues involved there are often challenges, however we can assure you that the PR office, the Club, management, players and Directors always aims to protect the image and interests of the Club and our supporters in everything we do. This is also done regularly through the proactive and positive promotion of all that the Club and its supporters do. In addition, through regular contact with supporters, added to now by the appointment of our Supporter Liaison Officer, the Club always strives to ensure that we are aware of issues affecting our fans and are able therefore to reflect the wide range of different views amongst our fans on so many matters.
We can assure you that we will continue to promote all that is great about our Club, ands ensure the interests of Celtic and its supporters are reflected.
Thanks very much once again for your email.
Kindest Regards
PR Department
Celtic Football Club
Continue ? I wasn’t aware he had started.
Still, I expect that means he’ll be right out there in the front line protecting the name of John Guidetti then….
Am I alone in not feeling particularly reassured by the PR man and his team ?
Former manager Neil Lennon has told the press that Scottish football needs Rangers back or else we’re all doomed.
Neil don’t worry. Its unlikely that the Guidetti case will result in a touchline ban for you. You’re out of it now.
Relax, and enjoy your time in England .
Gary Hooper will be booked and banned though. They still haven’t forgiven him for scoring against Old Rangers. Lennon didn’t do that, and there are no Hibernian men at the SFA.
Back to the finances of the new club, and at the same time the SFA are charging people with anything they can think of, this little summation appeared on the BBC website…
Rangers have agreed loans totalling £1.5m from shareholders Douglas Park, George Letham and George Taylor.
The Glasgow club decided against utilising a second £5m loan agreedwith fellow shareholder Mike Ashley’s Sports Direct retail company.
The Newcastle United owner loaned an initial £5m to the club in January.
Rangers say the new loans will be used as working capital and run until 31 December to give them “time to deliver a longer-term funding solution”.
Interest free ? Unsecured ?
As a former Finance Facility manager told us yesterday ;
Now if it had said “will be spent up to” or “Will be accessed until” them I would concede.
In reality its saying “They wont get any money back for sure, not even when the season book money comes in!”
Meantime, is this a hint from Sports direct ?
Theres another reason to cancel Sky today, and move firther away from English footballs totopoly in the British Isles…
The same person owns the TV company as the government, so its becoming even more important we break away, little by little.
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You know what to do.
Need another reason ? How about this picture of Steven Fletcher and his cars ?
One player out of hundreds. Gives you an idea of how much money is in the game down there.
And I’m not paying toward it anymore.
And someone deserves a kick up the arse for letting this one get away as well….
ICONIC Scottish drink brand Irn-Bru has signed a seven-figure football sponsorship deal.. in England.
It’s move to become the Official Soft Drink Partner for the English Championship, League One and League Two comes as Scotland’s four leagues still struggles to find an official title sponsor.
Adrian Troy, the head of marketing at AG Barr, said: “Irn-Bru has always been a big supporter of football but this landmark deal signals our biggest season yet.
Why didn’t the SFA ask them to spend that money on the SPFL ? Granted, they are already the official drinks partner of the Scottish league, but did it not occur to anyone to build on that relationship ?
Anyone at Irn Bru care to shed some light ? I have a feeling this might not be their fault…
Older supporters would have recognised Tannadice and Pittodrie in the pictures yesterday, and that allowed another nugget from history as Pensionerbhoy remembered his trips to the games.
Where would you have found these grounds ? Thanks again to Celtic Collectibles-and for the Sports Direct pic.
Was wondering if anyone could clarify what would happen to sevco if they are delisted from the stock exchange? HH
LB – from my limited knowledge gleamed from reading other forums I think that all that happens is the shares have to be traded privately between two consenting parties, not on an open market. It also allows any owners to make decisions away from the glare of the AIM rules. Maybe that was Glib’s plan all along?
SM
Are the Huns telling us that rangers supporters are ALL Protestant?
That’s an interesting thing
Why would that be?
Maybe they should be asked.
Tannadice and dens park?
Griffiths sings a wee song. Guidetti sings a wee song. Moral outrage! Hurt feelings!
Police involvement, charges, etc.
Every week 40,000 Sevco supporters sing songs smirking about the murder and famine of people our grandparents knew in person.Is this “fair and proportionate”? Is there safety in numbers or, is there something more sinister going on?
I’m away to take some anti-paranoia tablets…
A 16 team league? Who would have guessed!!!???
The best way to silence the critics is by doing your talking on the Park.
Up till now we have quietly being going about our business.
The Manager has openly made no secret of his desire that this side lifts a 4th historic Treble.
Some within our own ranks have been vocal about him doing so but not those who have an axe to grind as they know this is very much within our sides capability.
The distraction techniques deployed by the forces of darkness are designed to be exactly that.
They are designed to rattle our cage and upset the momentum we have gathered on the whole.
There are things we as a Support can do to limit this of course.
Stop taking Flares to games
Don’t sing stuff you know to be offensive
Back the side 100% regardless of who is picked to play
Ignore the baiting by the press they are looking for a reaction
The Club as has been pointed out above in todays great Diary could also be a bit more pro-active in dealing with certain sections of the MSM
Stop doing Interviews till the jobs done where possible
Tell Players to avoid situations like Guidetti found himself in
Put a stop to Players using Social Media for the next few weeks
Be more aggressive defending the Clubs name when it is apparent there is an agenda other than the Football
The word Hun’ can be offensive and that’s is entirely down to which the context of the word is used.
If a Rangers fan finds it offensive then that’s a matter of fact and should not be ignored.
If you are using it in a context of Religious Persuasion as in some cases it could be deemed to be so then may I suggest you simply stop doing that because that makes you a Bigot and no better than those who you are directing it towards.
I have and do use it occasionally to describe a certain type of Rangers Fan, the type who has no real interest in the Football but is more interested in hatred,bile and violence directed towards me purely and simply based on the fact I am either Catholic or of Irish Blood.
The rest to me are simply Bears,Gers or Zombies who support Rangers a now deceased Club.
I’m not a Bigot I married a Protestant Rangers fan from a Rangers family.
My own Grandfather on my mums side was a Lifelong Rangers man from a Protestant family.
Who happened to Marry a Catholic from Glasgow and sent 5 daughters to a Catholic Primary School.
None of it made a difference.
It’s a spiteful and pathetic side to the game which we all love.
The religious bigotry really has no place in Football and really should be a thing of the past in this day and age.
Their fans do seem to get away with a hell of a lot though it seems as in recent games the bulk of their Support could be heard singing songs that are in Law now banned.
The fact our SFA and our Press seems to be hitting this issue with a deafy’ is more and indication of where they are at this moment not where we are.
Fuck them all.
I could not agree more. Time to take the fight to them!
Charlie
I hear your arguments and support them wholeheartedly. However, I detect your anger too, an anger that seems to come from the injustice of unequal treatment by the the authorities both in and out of football. I think this is the justification for any stance against those who govern our sport or those who grovel and pander to their incompetence and bias. Our humanity demands justice not religion, belief, legislation or imagined entitlement.
H H
I have called the Huns since the sixties and they have just taken of offence. I have no intention of changing .it has nothing to do with religious bigotry. It is a generic term for Rangers Fans .If they don’t like it who cares it is not a popularity contest. I don’ t like being called. Fenian B but has anyone been arrested or put before the beaks for it? That has more religious connotations than calling them The Huns.
My wife and sons are church of Scotland (my youngest is just back from a church do and my wife is busy typing up the church bulletin)- my 2 boys refer to their uncle as a big hun, which he takes happily – the big hun has no religious leanings these days, but my sons have.
Where is the sectarian bit?
I remember clearly the huns being called huns because of their behaviour when they ran amock through England – it has absolutely nothing to do with religion and everything to do with their behaviour.
Cracking post on TSFM
Zilch says:
March 24, 2015 at 9:50 am
Personally, I don’t lose sleep being called a “Fenian b*****d”. It’s not a nice thing to say, and the addition of the F word in this context lets me know exactly where the hatred comes from.
Anyone calling me this belittles themselves.
Someone, or even thousands of someones, singing that they want to be “up to their knees in Fenian blood” – has, IMO, crossed over the line into genuinely offensive behaviour. By this I mean going beyond personal offense and into the realms of offensive to the general public.
The difference is the implied threat of violence.
It would be so easy to come up with a list of nicknames for other fans that could be deemed offensive:
Aberdeen : Sheep Sh****rs (Alleged ruminant relationships issues)
Hearts: Jam Tarts (loose morals there – careful now!)
Partick Thistle: Jags (are we saying they are p***ks?)
Dundee United: Arabs (who knows, but surely offense is to be found here somewhere – the middle East is a nightmare!)
Might be fun to see if we can complete the list?
In fact, I would feel sorry for any club that did not have a distinctive fan’s epithet – a measure of insignificance surely?
OK. So there are some more differences.
The word Fenian refers to an Irish revolutionary group that fought against British rule. It is therefore a direct reference to the Irish conflict, something which continues to plague Scottish (and obviously Irish) life to date.
In common modern use in Scotland it has come to broadly mean any catholic, with the implication that they all support militant Irish republicanism – and are therefore, in the minds of those that use the word, legitimate targets for violence. We are slowly emerging from the NI Troublees where this was a real feature of the conflict.
The H word (can I even write it?) refers to “Older Slang: Disparaging and Offensive. a contemptuous term used to refer to a German, especially a German soldier in World War I or II. The disparaging and offensive use of this term likens the Germans to the barbarous and warlike Huns of the 4th and 5th centuries.” (a dictionary definition).
The term has been in use wrt Rangers fans for so long, that its origins are a bit hazy, but there is no doubt that it includes associations with violent behaviour and lack of culture. I know of no religious significance to this word. It is only directed at Rangers fans (though perhaps they self-identify as being synonymous with protestantism?) and I have heard it being directed at Hearts fans, mainly due to some of their fans having a reputation for dual allegiance with Rangers etc.
I have heard the word used in the context of loyalist parades, but this is also a consequence of the prevalence of Rangers tops at such events. There are many other words used to describe the people organising and participating in such events, but the H word is not one of them.
I do believe that there is a significant difference in the use of the F and H words, with one directly conflating the hatred with the Irish coinflict and the other directly conflating the hatred with the “Old Firm” (as was).
The current attempt to have the H word added to the list of sectarian offensive terms is a desperate attempt to continue the both sides equally bad myth. Sad, but true (IMO).
Personally, it is not a word that I think anyone needs to feel any great attachment to using.
In the context of the John Guidetti song – it is easy to replace the word with e.g. Gers, Bears etc and the meaning is still the same –
Rangers died by their own hand.
And this is the ultimate truth that Rangers fans will never be able to change and that fans of every other club will taunt them with forever.
Moving on…
Personally I find the Sheep Sh****rs epithet more offensive than any of the others and cringe when I hear it. But the way that the Dons fans have defused it by embracing it is genuinely funny – blow up sheep being bounced around the crowd are hard not to laugh at.
If it was us being called the H word, I am pretty sure we would all turn up wearing those ridiculous WWI German helmets with the spikey thing on top and strut about saying daft German stuff, wearing mad moustaches as well.
But I guess it is hard to have a sense of humour when your world view is that of social supremacy. The peasants laughing at you? How very dare they!
They really should get used to it. Because the Gers ARE deid…
Perhaps we should be reminded that Celtic dominated the Scottish League during World War 1 to such an extent that they were (briefly) nicknamed ‘the Huns’. It was considered a sort of compliment at the time.
I thought, according to Ian McCallum’s “The Celtic, the Glasgow Irish and the Great War – The Gathering Storms”, the term was used for Rangers due to the large numbers that got shipyard jobs rather than fighting the ‘Hun’.
Great diary again. I am always surprised that David Murray has managed to walk away from the Sevco debacle unscathed. If there is one person that the Sevco hordes ought to be demanding vengeance from its him. He was in charge ably abetted by the current incumbents. A kind of perverse back to the future. Hopefully the police will take an interest in him at some point. Secondly the SFA are staggeringly incompetent on every front. From their inconsistency on football matters to sponsorship. Where are all the big Scottish Brands? Whisky, Oil, foods, tourism, beer and soft drinks, government even? Where are they? I’m stunned by the commercial incompetence of the scottish football authorities. Lastly let’s put to bed once and for all that Scottish Football or Celtic need Sevco or whatever they call themselves next. We are very happy without them. We are playing decent football, we have rivals in Aberdeen, Dundee Utd and maybe Hearts and hopefully Hibs. We can ditch the TV deal and still be in great financial shape. No one needs Sevco – let them pass over and in a generation we can tell our grandchildren about it so they feel safe and secure 🙂
I wouldn’t say Murray walked away, he took the £1 coin and ran away.
You would think that he would step up to the plate and take responsibility.
They don’t do ‘Responsibility’
Sorry to be so Pedantic Monti but Murray has no legs.
Running away is a real problem for someone with no legs.
Unless of course you mean metaphorically running away?
If so I will shut up and go ridicule a zombie.
Whatever you do, don’t ridicule them as part of an Ancient Asiatic Horde. That would be terrible. Almost on a par with calling them c*nts.
Just why would Rangers fans wish revenge on David Murray who delivered big time where it mattered most to them. On the park. as far as most Rangers fans are concerned, Murray’s greatest failing was, that when shove came to push, he could not deliver ten-in-a-row. Which meant that they had to settle for parity with Celtic. Which simply was not good enough.
Ah, but it wasn’t parity was it?! No it was plain ole cheating to try and reach the glorious heights achieved fair and square during Steins wonder years, by that dead club.
If they could turn the clock back and be aware of all the circumstances would Rangers fans sing and dance any less enthusiastically. Of course not. They would enjoy what was put in front of them.
If six or seven years down the line, Dave King embarks on a spend ten for five strategy that brings success on the field, how many Rangers fans will say hold that result. Very few I imagine.
True, the zombie conga would be overjoyed – as again, I state that rangers died in 2012.
Prior to that, the former club did enjoy tainted success due to borrowing and ripping off the taxpayer through dodgy schemes to achieve un-sporting advantage; Moonbeams was not truly spending per se.
I try to remain fairly middle of the road and conciliatory. I m not one to froth and foam too much, it’s only a game etc etc, but this one bugs me I have to admit. 30 000 2nd Rangers fans at Hampden sing about Fenian blood, 3 000 sing about Stan Collymore being a black Fenian bastard – nada, zilch, bupkiss, zero, niente, sweet FA from the SFA.
One song about the huns being deid and a Celtic player charged. To quote Mugatu in Zoolander – I feel like I m taking crazy pills.
I’d love for this to be a test case – to lay down a case to prove that the huns are indeed deid and that the word itself is not a religious slur – it is directed at the WATP / No surrender closed minded football fan, usually of either version of Rangers but also of some Hearts and maybe Kilmarnock fans.
Others have said it on social media but for example:
Jock Stein – protestant – never a Hun
Same for Kenny Dalglish, Danny Mc Grain and many, many others. Heck I’m only naming Celtic players, there must be any number of Protestants who play / have played for teams in Scotland who have never and would be never be referred to as a Hun. Because their religion has got nothing to do with it. Never has, never will.
Neil McCann / Maurice Johnstone / Nacho Ned – RC & Huns.
It’s a term to refer to those players and fans who through association with the club formerly known as Rangers exhibit the arrogant, “It’s all about the Rangers mindset” and have been known to descend into the worst forms of anti social behaviour. It’s not meant as a compliment, but neither an attack on any religion. I m speaking about my understanding and use of the term, but I m sure this is also how most people who take the time to read this will feel.
With regard to the deid side – well where to begin? No entry to UEFA competition, the full LNS narrative, not the agenda suiting parts, BDO liquidators view, any where you want really, the rangers reformed in 2012, that is a statement of fact incontestable if it ever were taken to a courts – any number of letters from SFA or statements from Doncaster wont alter that fact. I’ve come to accept that for 2nd rangers fans it’s very important to them that they view this new club as a continuation of the old and accept that this is how they want to see it and leave them to it, only getting involved when they expect others to believe it too. This, in my opinion, is the commonly held view wrt new club / same club from fans of all clubs bar 2nd rangers – “You’re not rangers any more” has been sung by fans from almost all clubs they’ve met on “the journey”
As I said, I d love this to be defended vigorously and fully by the club, but the statement released makes clear John Guidetti will be defending the charge. Is this the club washing their hands of the situation, and leaving him to fend for himself? If so I d suggest the club reconsider very quickly and get behind their man or the problem it will have will be not with their player or the SFA but their own customer base.
Like I said earlier, the same club myth, while sticking in my throat, I will leave alone unless I m expected to believe it at which point I ll put facts in front of any one. The term Hun has never to my knowledge been linked to a persons religion, so if this charge, in its boiled down form, is “they’re taking the p*ss out of us and we don’t like it” then honest to God, what have we been reduced to?
This bear in mind, while the authorities take no action whatsoever when clear sectarian singing en masse goes unpunished. So the SFA now appear to be taking offence on behalf of the most sensitive of all Huns and acting out their wet dreams of kicking and kicking Timmy some more, while permitting the most unpleasant (not to say illegal) song book of their boys in blue.
If the club do not robustly defend this, and appeal or flat out ignore any “punishment” this “offence” brings down then I wonder where its gone – where are the men who’d fly the tricolour when we were told to take it down – we have a voice and right for it to be heard, within the same laws as anyone else – no more, no less, and “the huns are deid” breaks no law of the Netherlands, Scotland or anywhere else bar the closed world mindset of, yes, lets say it together, Huns.
when your died you dont know your died its the same as when your stupid thats a peach ime going to slap down a few huns who urny died wae that wan today aint life grand ha ha
No sign of my post, hope its not lost or blocked for offensive language, it did contain the word “H*n” many times, without the asterisk ; )
Rumour time – AG Barr were approached by the sfa about sponsorship but they were unhappy with some of the practices of the sfa, the conduct of top officials and did not want their drinks asscociated with such. They informed the sfa they would be delighted to sponser Scottish football if the sfa would act without fear or favour, treat all clubs equally and remove officials seen as corrupt or being involved in the severe financial problems which beset some clubs. I wasn’t told of sfa response to this.
the response would be move along timmy
Spot on, Ralph, sending a crude, pornographic drawing of Mohammed was not enough for the sfa to act but a Celtic player says ‘hun’ and they take action. I remember the papers called mark hately ‘attila the hun’ and not a word was said.
Had intended to write long pieces about football governence, sky and more gripes about Deila but it seems to take me forever to type.
Given that Chris Graham jumped, precisely what meaningful action could the SFA take against him?
Whatever action they deem fit. Is he not still involved with the suppoters trust? They had no problem taking action against craig whyte a fair length of time after he left. Like charles green using a racial slur, simply having your pals keeping your seat warm for a while to avoid punishment. Is that the sfa answer and zero tolerance approach to racism in the game? Compare two incidents: green says something on camera in front of a number of witnesses, Tonev is involved in an i said/he said situation. Compare punishments. The sfa don’t lack the authority to take action, they lack the desire.
if the SFA/SPFL want to persisit in the persecution of our players and i was in charge at Celtic fc then i’d be telling our players currently with the Scotland squad that they are to return to Lennoxtown as their services are not on offer to the scotland team.
Ralph
I must admit that “dziekanowski’s nightclub child” has made a good call. All I would say is the parks do not seem to sit right in the photo. But it is an old one, long before even my time I would think, thirties maybe. If I was a betting man – and my trooser pockets are too deep to allow for that – I would go for Tannadice on the right and although it looks in an odd position relative to Tannadice today, the one on the left certainly is in a position that fits with Dens Park. I do remember allotments but I thought in my time they were where the light coloured factory is. If they are still where the photo shows, they must be behind the tenements which do not seem to have been built then. The street with the houses, which I think is actually called Tannadice Street or Road, does not seem to have any of the houses that are there now. They would run along what was the visitors end with the Main Stand in the left hand corner. With a bit of imagination you could maybe just see an original building where one side of the main stand would end up in the near left corner which became a feature of the stadium when it was developed into a glass fronted sponsors’ lounge that stretched right round that bottom corner of the stadium and housed the entrance by which the players came onto and exited the pitch. We used to stand just to the right of it below the kind of wide path that ran along the terracing there. I have to confess I find the photo somewhat confusing and my memory is not placing things in the same places. Still, it brings back more memories of trips to Dundee which I really enjoyed. We would take sandwiches and a flask, arrive ages before the games and have a good old bean-feast before heading into the ground. After the match, we would sit in the car and finish off our goodies to allow the traffic to get out of town then head off for a leisurely journey home. I especially liked Tannadice as a stadium. It was a neat, compact little ground and housed the best ladies loos in the country – so I am told by my cousin. No, I did not carry out personal inspections for the BBC.
Not all trips to Dundee were pleasant Saturday days out. Here is another little story of a traumatically crazy trip to see Celtic take on Dundee. I had the good fortune for a number of years to have a company car. This particular Saturday morning I was being treated to a brand spanking new replacement. It so happened Celtic were playing Dundee that afternoon and the they had to win to keep in the league. I worked in Hamilton but the bloody car had to be collect in Lanark. My boss insisted on giving me a lift there but kept having conversations with every Tom, Dick and Harry under the son while I frustratingly champed at the bit. When we got to Lanark, he asked to be shown all the ins and outs of the car. I just wanted to get in and drive away. Then, to crown it all, he decided to take me for a coffee. I was on tender-hooks as I watched the clock very swiftly creeping nearer and nearer to the time I needed to get away in order to be on time for the match. The boss had brought his wife with him and I was reluctant to simply blurt out that I had a game to get to – looking back, I was bloody fool and I would have no hesitation today. So, I politely hung on. I eventually got away with about the minimum time to get to the game. There was just one problem. It was the days when you had to run-in the engine of most new cars and that meant a maximum speed of about 30/35 mph. There was simply no way I could get to Dundee at that speed. So, I decided I would use the old car. But, the problem there was, it had some pretty dodgy defects, mainly a leaking cylinder head gasket. Anyway, I overfilled it with water and headed off at breakneck speed towards Dundee. When I reached the Forth Bridge, there was a queue and as I sat nervously waiting to get through the toll, someone knocked on the window to tell me the car was on fire. Idiot! It was not. But there was a cloud of steam enveloping the car and it was growing by the minute. It was decision time. So, with all the common sense of a drunk on a Saturday night, I jumped into the car and drove off over the bridge, steaming from every nook and cranny, with only one thought in mind – THE MATCH at all costs. I realised, however, the engine would never last and knew I had to at least fill it with some water. I was familiar with a building site just off the M9 around Rosyth and pulled in there, filled up the car with “cold” water (not advised shall we say) and headed off on route. We arrived about 20 minutes after kick off. Celtic were defeated 3-0 and handed the league to Rangers as a consequence. So, it was not the finest football experience of my long life but one that lives in the memory, not for the game, but for the journey. What happened with regard to the car? Well, I put it back in the garage full of water and looking absolutely fine. I then played the part of the innocent with gusto. The other employee collected his “new” car on the Monday and managed two days running it before the engine blew. I argued strongly on his behalf that the car was well past its prime and something like this could happen out of the blue without any warning whatsoever. I won the argument. My colleague got another car and I got away with it. Sometimes I am sure God is on Celtic’s side :). With the current SFA, media, Iron Bru and Sky TV, one feels we sure need Him.
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Ralph
I knew it could not last. Something like ten posts without a moderator was just too good to be true. But now he appears to be back on my case again.
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Tricky, tricky Raplph – I’m thinking that is Tannadice St again.
R***kers latest headline:
“60,000 C**tic f*ns arrested for s*nging”
We can exclusively reveal that some dr*nk alc*h*l before the match. They w*lked to the game, they cl*pped, they d*nced, they sh*uted; some even v*iced-th*ir-op*ni*n to the Referee.
A report has been sent to the procurator fiscal, the SFA, Police Scotland, Walter Smith and Jimmy Krankie.
God help us if we ever defraud the government of many, many, millions of pounds in a brazen tax fraud scheme for long term sporting advantage and make sure others don’t get UEFA money……wait….someone else did that…..but that’s OK cos they are deid….or are they undead?
FFS, let the people sing (speak!) big ranty post gone awol!!
A new word to describe Rangers Supporting Zombies has risen from the ashes of the old club – Orcs . When will this become offensive with religious meanings to offend those of a Sevco persuasion!?
Zombies
Sevconians
The dark side.
Castle Grey Skull
All of the above if used with the word Deid will come under scrutiny .
But call me a Fenian B , F the Pope , up to your knees etcetera if used in big enough numbers are permissible. The Club is of course taking the necessary measures to avoid direct punishment for the actions of the majority of it’s Fans.
I missed my point in an earlier post.
My 2 sons are church of Scotland, they go most weeks, and are also season ticket holders at CP.
Question is, are they huns?
If religion is the deciding factor, then they are.
If it’s the team they support, then they aren’t.
Or maybe they’re fenian, hun b*st*rds?
After the Falklands “conflict” squaddies assigned to tasks such as clearing minefields came into contact with locals whom they dubbed “Bennies” after a character in the late, much mourned soap on ITV, “Crossroads”. Following complaints from islanders, disciplinary action was taken against soldiers. A few months later IIRC a Grauniad reported overheard squaddies referring to the “Stills” and on enquiring was informed it neant “They’re still effing Bennies”.
I saw four and a half huns this morning. They were sort of floating rather than walking, zombie like. One had a refs outfit on, one had a huns top on,two had Blazers on,the half hun had no legs and they all wore sashes. Am I deranged or just the wee fat baldy Fenian bastard I’ve always been? “Nurse” hh
I have decided that I am now offended by the WATP chanting of the Ibrox hoardes.As they appear to claim the word Huns is a religiously offensive term directed at Protestants this then by corollary means that by singing WATP this only includes Protestants and therefore excludes me which I find offensive and as I am Catholic it has Religious bias and is by definition sectarian. WATP should then by definition be Banned from use in all public places as a Sectarian Song/ chant ,call it what you like . Nil by Mouth where are you when you are needed?