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Celtic Diary Thursday December 10: You’ve Got To Admire Their Balls

Having been unable to put this guff together for a few days, I’ve missed quite a few developments, but that has allowed me to stand back and try to make a little bit of sense of it all.

 

Except, of course, for the bit about the Strachan family launching its own takeover bid by installing its members into key positions at the club.

 

That still annoys me immensely and there is no way on earth any of that makes sense, apart from it being a continuation of the Peter Policy that ensures he is surrounded by his own lapdog loyal, a cabal that arguably includes Lennon and Kennedy as well.

 

Alright, you can leave “arguably ” out of that sentence.

 

Celtic play Lille tonight in the Europa League, and I’m not sure if I’ll bother with it. I’m trying not to care what happens, but unfortunately half a century of emotional attachment is quite difficult to wothdraw from in any relationship, no matter how abusive.

 

Take the St Johnstone game, which offers a kind of explanation. I use the BBC Sounds app at work to listen to the games, and one added bonus is that when I turn it off, it resumes at exactly the point where it was switched off, handy for not missing anything, and it means whilst I’m on the road the game could last around three hours.

 

Yeah, I know, but it’s better than Virgin Radio Anthems, which only has about half a dozen records and multiple adverts for the Chris Evans Breakfast Show.

 

Anyway, for some reason the app occasionally refreshes and goes live…which means i miss a chunk of the action, and when Celtic scored on Sunday, I gave a little hoorah, thinking it was another late winner.

 

Then I gave a little hooroo when I realised it wasn’t. Well, more of a ” for fucks sake Celtic “, but you get the point.

 

The point being that no matter what is going on off the field, it’s what’s on the field that matters, and therefore perhaps the protests and petulance from the support is more easily explained.

 

Especially after the board released that statement the other day…

 

In light of the ongoing speculation regarding the position of our football manager, Neil Lennon, the Board of Celtic Football Club wishes to make clear its continuing support for Neil and his backroom team.  

The Board recognises and understands the importance of winning the league championship this season and that, as Neil himself has made clear, recent performances and results have been disappointing. The Board is committed to delivering success for Celtic supporters.  

The Board has carefully considered the current circumstances and the challenges that we are faced with, not least the pressure on the management and players to deliver the tenth championship in a row that is so important to us all. Equally important is to continue to operate according to our Club’s values. The Board has come to the conclusion that our collective objective is best served by continuing to support Neil and his team as they seek solutions for those challenges. 

Neil has the support of the players and staff at the Club. He understands the pressure and the environment. As his outstanding record as a manager, captain and player demonstrates, he knows what it takes to be successful at Celtic and he has delivered success with many of the current squad of players, who understand his method and approach.  

Whilst it has been suggested that it is time for a change, at this stage in the season the Board believes that Neil and his management team are best placed to turn the team’s performances around and lead us on to success. The Board continues to work closely with Neil and his team to support them as they seek to do so and progress will be reviewed in the new year.

The Board wishes to take this opportunity to thank all Celtic supporters for their support during this challenging year. The response of the support to the challenges that we all face together has been magnificent. It is therefore important to make clear that the Board has never, as it has been inaccurately reported, referred to any Celtic supporter as ‘entitled’.

The Board recognises the range of views expressed by our supporters and the strength of those opinions. Whilst there may not always be agreement, there is certainly a common goal – the success of Celtic Football Club – and we will continue to work together to seek to achieve that success. 

 

This statement is merely a padded out version of the message the board really wanted to put out, a copy if which found its way to us here at the new non-capital letter e-Tims…

 

Tell them to fuck off  

 

 

Which led to some fans hanging around Celtic Park looking for people to blame, and demanding change.

 

One banner in particular raised a few eyebrows….the one in the bottom right..

 

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Japanese rock goddess Yoko Ono is considering legal action after she suffered distress this week, largely due to the words “shoot ” and “Lennon ” appearing in the media on banners as she remembered the fortieth anniversary of her husbands murder.

 

It’s difficult to see the protests as anything other than a knee jerk reaction to try to change the way the club is run, but it’s difficult also to formulate any argument for change that goes further than the team is playing shite just now, which is the mangers fault, and he was hired on the cheap by the CEO, so its his fault as well, and Dermot Desmond doesn’t give a shit, so he can go as well.

 

We said at the beginning of the season on this page that should Celtic win a tenth title, it will be with a different team on the pitch on May from the one that started the campaign.

 

I still stand by that, and we may actually see the start of that change tonight as the manager has said he may well use the “squad!.

 

If he is guilty of anything then it is being too loyal to some players and perhaps a little over dependent on some who just don;t want to be there any more.

 

After all, he knew that in the summer -and before-when he signed replacements for them.

 

The mistake seems to be in keeping players who don’t want to stay, and freezing out those who wanted to come.

 

 

If that is the case, then he at least should get a shot at putting it right, though doubts remain as to whether he can.

 

Lennon has not impressed this season, but equally does not deserve the vitriol aimed at him, at whilst accusations of he’s only doing it for the pay off remain, and indeed, may have some basis in fact. you have to admire his stubbornness.

 

All great leaders have that stubbornness, and its only when they fail its a fault.

 

It can also be described as single minded determination, but again, thats all down to results.

 

And the results are deplorable.

 

Celtic have gone from being a team that took the field wondering how many, to a team that wonders if any….

 

In all the years I’ve been watching Celtic, I’ve never seen it so bad…

 

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Thats relegation form, right up there with the season after Dalglish left and Danny McGrain and Pat Stanton were injured.

 

Thats the worst I remember, as only Clydebank failed to beat Celtic that year in the league, and just a couple of years previously Atletico Madrid had cheated , punched and kicked their way to what should have been our place in the European cup final….

 

Now thats a decline in standards, far and above the current slump. Not to say this decline is acceptable or explicable, but its certainly not the first time.

 

I have a recollection of looking at the Sunday papers and the league table around them, looking at the first division table to see who we’d be playing next season.

 

 

So, what do we do ?

 

Do we need the upheaval and uncertainty that comes with a change of manager ?

 

Especially given that Desmond and Lawwell can’t agree on who it should be, with each vetoing the others first choice ? thats the way the boardroom works, by the way, decisons have to be unanimous.

 

And right now, the only thing the board can agree on is that they aren’t going outside unless there’s a massive police presence.

 

Celtic to probe fans' ugly scenes outside stadium which left players shaken  | The Scotsman

 

 

We’ve seen reports of abuse hurled, missiles thrown and players and staff having to be escorted off the premises.

 

 

To what end ?

 

What do those who protest hope to gain from it ?

 

All they have done is create a seige mentality within the walls of the stadium.

 

 

There can be little doubt that during…its not over just yet….one of the most successful periods in the clubs history the board will be looking at the support and wondering what their problem is.

 

The supporters are looking at the board and having seen no positive action to halt the current slump before its too late.

 

But change for the sake of change guarantees nothing.

 

What manager of any repute is going to take a job where the support is so volatile that a poor run in form that it turns on them with such a degree of hatred ?

 

And there is no excuse for the manner of the protests.

 

An explanation can be offered, however, in that with no fans at the ground, there is simply no other way to register the depth of feeling towards those felt to be responsible for “blowng the ten “, even though it hasn’t been blown yet.

 

Maybe we should trust those who do know how to win trophies to win trophies….

 

Then again, its not entirely a surprise that things have come to this.

 

On the field, there is no settled side. We don’t have a “first team ” as such, and whilst injuries and illness have played their part, and you only have to look across the city at what continuity can achieve.

 

But also across the city is a team that plays in an organised and well drilled way, our lot just sem to turn up and hope someone does something.

 

With every game that passes that hope diminishes further, and thats why the support are panicking, because they can see that nothing is being done constructively to address the poor run.

 

The management seems devoid of ideas, and not only that, there’s little faith that if one of them did have a Eureka moment, they wouldn’t know how to implement it.

 

 

Thats why the support is worried.

 

There are problems, there are solutions needed, but we can see that nothing is being done to address them.

 

When do you say enough is enough ?

 

At the moment Celtic are thirteen points behind in the league, with two games in hand. Can anyone say even with optimism that those two games can be won ?

 

 

It’s time to shake up the team, to bring in those who have the heart for battle.

 

Those who are taking to the field just now simply don’t have it.

 

 

Thats where the first changes need to be made.

 

 

Off the field, the Celtic Trust want you to contribute a few quid so they can buy shares, and pool them together in order to bring supporters together in a more orderly way to challenge how the club is being run, which on paper at least, sounds like a good idea.

 

It gives the fans a collective to gather around, and the Trust can then take our concerns directly to the board.

 

A recent drive has lengthened their membership list, and with the AGM just a few days away, it will be interesting to see how they use that voice.

 

After all, Resolution 12 is back on the agenda…and the club have been inconsistent in saying what they plan to do about the claims that they sat back and allowed Rangers to cheat their way to a Champions league spot in what seems to be an SFA sponsired attempt to save the original club from liquidation.

 

Read through this from Phil MacGhiollibhan,

 

Res 12 update

 

which includes a request for you to do your bit…which is essential if we are to pressurise the borad into either pursuing or dropping the action. The can has been kicked as far as it can bem and now they have to state whether they are genuinely gong to act on behalf of shareholders, or if they were complaint in the scandal of 2011.

 

Arguably more relevant this year as it seems like they’re at it again.

 

 

Why wouldn’t they ?

 

They got away with it last time.

 

 

And the way this season is going, they’re going to get away with it again.

 

 

Again, a complaint media is ignoring the financial situation over the river millions of pounds in debt, and no way to pay it back.

 

Unless they get a few years UCL money….

 

 

Some argue that the Old Firm brand is necessary for the survival of Scottish football, despite the actions of one half of it doing its best to destroy it under the Murray regime.

 

 

This in itself is a cause for concern, as it intimates that what the supporters of other clubs say, about Celtic and Rangers being two cheeks of the same arse, having some credibility.

 

I don’t want my club, the one constant in my life, associated in any way with tax dodgers, cheats , racists or fraudsters.

 

I’m guessing you don’t either, and there is a suspicion that the board would rather we forgot about that, and hence their overreaction to a few fans having a bit of a moan, which they are perfectly entitled to do , about the shambolic performances on the field.

 

 

We have to fight for the kind of club we want, possibly now even more so than when the Kelly’s and Whites abused it.

 

For all the ineptitude on the pitch, that can be fixed.

 

For the shambes off it, we need to fix that for them.

 

Starting with the AGM, and asking the questions they dont want to answer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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BJF
11 months ago

Ralph good diary today. I so wanted 10IAR but I can’t understand why any alleged Celtic supporters believe the demonstrations conducted the way they are do anything to bring change or promote the good name of Celtic. They play into the hands of those who always want to bring our club down. They should be better than using a pathetic “ frustrated can’t take any more attitude.” Trebles galore have brought a worrying sense of entitlement and arrogance that we used to hate in the former Glasgow Rangers. What I think the diary reminds us that whatever the outcome this season we will have a new manager. Does it look like an attractive prospect for a top manager at the moment, there might be jobs with a lot less abuse around.

sfa unfit for purpose
11 months ago
Reply to  BJF

well said

The Cha
11 months ago
Reply to  BJF

The ones bringing Celtic down are Lennon, Lawwell and Desmond.

All the deflection from those happy at the current situation….

well I’ll leave it up to you how beneficial they are to Celtic.

Mike
11 months ago

The Pinocchio Pete Policy, where his wallet grows with his lies.

Mike
11 months ago
Reply to  Mike

All of this friction could have been avoided and the board could have acted very differently. There can be no excuse for the PLC. not to pursue an open and honest game, but no, they chose the dishonest pathway. If they had chosen to honour Res.12 -(11 now), they could have insisted on exposing the cheating for they had the power to do so, everyone who knows the Scottish game, knows where the real power lies. If they had forced the SFA. and SPL (at the time) to come clean and admit their own involvement in aiding the team from Govan, they would have had the backing of the whole Celtic support. Res.12, opened the path to challenging the Lord Nimmo Smith Commission to further scrutiny and changing its wrongful decision. The LNS decision was based on the EBTs being acceptable at that time, since the trials based in a court of law, it was proven and admitted to, that a sporting advantage did take place when EBTs were employed, that initial decision meant that they could keep the titles and trophies that they won unfairly, the biggest sporting travesty in the history of Scottish football. Wait until the going for 55 ramps up and the Celtic supporters have to swallow that. Then we have the 5Way Agreement, which proves conclusively that they are a new club, as does the Traverso document from UEFA, the 5Way also gives them, to this day an unfair sporting advantage. Knowing all that and we are supposed to accept it, is gut wrenching, knowing that it still could be challenged and changed. Take the honest path, its the only way to go, but first he has to go before the game can be cleaned up…

Monti
11 months ago
Reply to  Mike

Well said Mike

Big Don Gazpachio
11 months ago
Reply to  Mike

Yup, well said, Mike.

Amd I’m not joking when I say you would be sorely missed from this page no matter the circumstances.

Mike
11 months ago

Thank’s to both of you. I was out all yesterday afternoon so could not contribute anymore. I feel a mixture of anger and disgust at the board and Scottish footballs governing bodies the SFA and the SPFL. they three have all contributed to my disgust that the game I have supported has been completely trashed by the whole cabal of them. It has spoiled my enjoyment of the game and that is unforgivable, but most of all I feel loathing and disgust at the cheating ars holes from Govan.

Big Don Gazpachio
11 months ago
Reply to  Mike

I share those feelings myself, Mike, and they often seep into my other communications, which I would rather they didn’t but that’s anger for you.

At least we can see some shoots unexpectedly sprout from the side last night and now can only hope that it really is an early Spring for Celtic rather than just another false dawn.

All the best.

portpower
11 months ago
Reply to  Mike

They`ve yet to sell us all that irresistable condensed tablet.

Big Don Gazpachio
11 months ago
Reply to  portpower

They already did, Port.

But only a few of us know what it is.

mcklintop
11 months ago

Completely and utterly scunnered. In the history of people making a cant of things this has to be right up there. Firstly the fan protests, well what other option do the fans have, they can’t get into the stadium and Pete is unlikely to invite them in for tea and biscuits. And frankly the club’s response has been pathetic. No engagement at all.

We have completely blown this, we have allowed sevco to challenge us again, they have gone from needing snookers to potentially securing a CL lifeline. Slippy G has somehow found a formula that works in europe and I would bet they don’t slip up in the qualifiers like we do on a regular basis.

They will fleece the fanbase again for CL tickets and with the money from UEFA it would seem likely that they will overtake us in terms of revenue. This presents us with a challenge. They have proven themselves reckless enough to pump all that money into the team. Their we arra peepul mentality demands that they buy the most expensive players so I believe they will buy big. How do we respond, can we?

From being so far ahead to being presented with this scenario is a disgrace. 10 in a row has been the focus but has it been a distraction? I wasn’t one of those who wanted a “rangers” back in the league. I would have been first in the queue to shop in the Tesco that got opened on the site of their stadium. Feck them, I wanted them gone forever. The country would have been better for it.

Resolution 12, the 5 way agreement…..we facilitated their return, we could have done something about it but we couldn’t see past a poxy sky deal. The man had many faults but Murray would never have missed an opportunity to stick it to us.

Scunnered………..Feck you Dermot and Feck you Pete.

Monti
11 months ago
Reply to  mcklintop

Keep a steady hand there bhoy, nothing is lost.

Frank McGaaaarvey
11 months ago
Reply to  mcklintop

Hail Hail McKlintop. Round of applause for that post

Big Don Gazpachio
11 months ago

I second Frank here, that’s an excellent post, McKlintop.

Malcolm Content
11 months ago

I don’t think there now can be any doubt that Celtic PLC and Sevco are two cheeks of the same Old Firm arse. I long suspected this was the case but the board’s resistance to Res 12 and last year’s AGM decision to try and shut it down was the final nail in the coffin for me. In 2012, a club formed in 1872 died. Looking back I think another formed in 1888 died as well. I didn’t recognise it at the time but I think I do now.

Big Don Gazpachio
11 months ago

Powerful stuff, MC.

Thats how I’ve felt for years but never wanted to believe it either.

They killed us along with the Huns.

Cheers.

Monti
11 months ago

RIPOSA IN PACE PAOLO ROSSI

henkesdreadlocks
11 months ago
Reply to  Monti
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Monti
11 months ago

Class

Big Don Gazpachio
11 months ago
Reply to  Monti

Ffs, Rossi now too!

An inspirational footballer, RIP, zio.

Bgbhoy
11 months ago
Reply to  Monti

I got sent it this morning when I woke up and for a second I thought it was about me

Monti
11 months ago
Reply to  Bgbhoy

Lol

Monti
11 months ago

Why are people giving up on the ten?
Why is there acceptance that it is lost?
We win our two games in hand & it’s down to seven points, we still have to play them three times, yet some are giving it up? To them?
Have a word with yourselves, if ee are to lose the league, we do that by puting up a fight not known in the history of fights.
We have NOT lost the league, get your sleeves rolled up & turn this situation around, you, we, do not give up until it’s won!
It’ll be a dark day in life when i concede defeat to those animals, ley’s unite, fight & win this together!

UNTIL THE LAST REBEL!

Malcolm Content
11 months ago
Reply to  Monti

This is no longer just about the ten imo. It’s about what Celtic has become and will continue to be which to me is far more important to me as someone who followed the team since the mid-sixties. At one point, the PLC was there to support the team. Remember, we were constantly reminded that every penny earned would be ploughed back into the team. That may well have been true to an extent back then but now the football division exists first and foremost, to support the PLC and its major shareholders. Supporters are now customers , there to be fleeced at every opportunity and be grateful for what we/they get as “we are a club like other”. This has now become more important than just winning trophies as uplifting as those are. Transformational change is now required at the club otherwise it remains two cheeks of the Old Firm arse. Not just the manager. not just the CEO or major shareholders but the way the club is organised. It needs to be run for the benefit of the supporters and not the shareholders. Sack the Board and get rid of the PLC model!!!

Monti
11 months ago

Malcolm,
Good stuff

11 months ago
Reply to  Monti

We couldn’t beat St Johnstone at home might have something to do with it a defence that leaks goals for fun another. You can’t win titles when you have to score at least twice to win a game.
Its over had been for a while and tonight for the first time in my life I couldn’t give a feck what the score is. It diesnt matter. Play the kids that’s what I would do.
They have a cheek to take them over to Dubai let them freeze their balls off in Lennoxtown fuckin bunch of chancers.
Never mind the league Monti this team won’t win the cup.

The Cha
11 months ago
Reply to  Monti

The only option the board are offering (and Ralph, Desi concur) is with Lennon still in charge.

He’s been clueless all season and the last 2 months (w2 d4 l6) have been horrific.

Every time he opens his mouth its like Pedro all over again except we’re not laughing this time.

We’re in danger of the Huns winning a treble never mind us losing the 10 the longer this farce goes on.

Monti
11 months ago
Reply to  The Cha

Cha,
I agree i just don’t believe in giving up!

The Cha
11 months ago
Reply to  Monti

Same here, getting togged up to head to pub to watch game but know that big changes are required to kick on as we should.

Big Don Gazpachio
11 months ago
Reply to  The Cha

You’re both right, lads, but Monti’s Never Say Die attitude wins it here.

Though it only just shades Cha’s observation that the authors are going along with the ‘Well, we’re stuck with him for now’ line.

Starve them out!

Tim Buffy
11 months ago
Reply to  Monti

Given the current form and disposition of both teams can you honestly see Celtic pegging them back?

Cartvale88
11 months ago

The currant board are the custodians of Celtic, as were the Kelly’s and Whites, the club is the supporter base. They are causing a stink about a few hundred supporters demonstrating,but the diaspora of supporters is in the hundreds of thousands, it is a deflector shield.
Since the fifties there have been many ups and downs, part of the joy of being Celtic through and through, but over the last few years that arrogance has appeared due to Lawell, Bankier, Wilson and the rest is shocking. The living wage, mental stewards, falling over themselves to comply with any edict from the authorities. Allowing players to be assaulted on the park, look at the crap from Sevco about the Goldson/Vigers incident.
Supporting Celtic as a family can run into thousands of pounds per annum, many struggle to finance their support, but Lawell and company do not give a proverbial..
There statement is embarrassing, as their running of an institution, they are like the Sir Phillip Greens of this world screwing every penny out of the workers and customers.
Celtic are in a bad place at the moment and are losing the trust of their fans.

Monti
11 months ago

SACK THE BOARD!

Iancelt67
11 months ago
Reply to  Monti

Well it’s a downgrade from shooting them. Been listening to a Celtic state of mind podcast it’s recommended from me. Not as good as etims. Ahem

Cortes
11 months ago

Interesting article. Thanks.

The main criticism I’d make is that you skated over the less-than-stellar performance levels of the players. Players whom we’ve been given to believe are, man for man, superior to those of Sevco. Hmmm. Really? Well, let’s see.

How then do we explain the persistent failure to pass the ball properly? Not just delivering hospital passes, nor completely misplaced passes, nor passes directly to the opponent, nor passes hit at a teammate 15 metres away as though he were 45 metres away but passes sideways or backwards to Grampaw Broony instead of forward to a guy who FOR ONCE could be bothered to find some space and move towards the other team’s goal.

And how do we explain the lack of, let’s be generous and call it engagement, of a group of young men who would lose out in a 50-50 tackle with a blancmange. I’ve heard it suggested that they’re avoiding injuries in order to preserve their options for their next club. Perhaps. But then the stupidity of someone like that should be a complete disqualification for wearing a Celtic shirt every single day. (Promised myself I’d make no reference to the management…) How is any half decent club likely to appraise the conduct of guys giving 20% on the field? Is Rotherham Utd the next stop on the career ladder for them? Or Stenhousemuir? At no time soon are these charlatans likely to be following in the footsteps of Kieran Tierney – signed by Arsenal while suffering from a longstanding injury problem needing a prolonged recovery period. The presence of such characters in the team is a major disincentive to the upcoming generation and the timeservers ought to be written off and prepared for life at the bright lights of Tranmere, Northampton or Peterborough to make space for the young guys who have Celtic ambition. If the League is gone, look to the future.

11 months ago

Fellow fans are panicking. There’s no point in change for changes sake. Not the board’s fault.

Then a few paragraphs down your banging about something that happened 10 years ago and the board need to answer for it

Embarrassing

jpm88
11 months ago

One of the best articles I’ve read on the Celtic debacle is over on ‘ THE CELTIC STAR ‘ article ‘CELTIC’S MANAGED DECLINE AND THE MEN RESPONSIBLE’ by Niall J ; whole shitshow in a ‘nutshell’ .

The Cha
11 months ago
Reply to  jpm88

There also been some excellent ones on Celtic Underground:

THE TIME FOR CHANGE IS NOW
THE CURSE OF THE ACCOUNTANT
DOMESTIC OBSESSION THE BIGGEST THREAT TO 10
STRATEGY WITHOUT STRUCTURE?

I previously thought Celtic Underground was completely misnamed and was part of the Lawwell Loyal.

It says something that it can turn out these excellent critical article while all etims has got is the latest laughable “back lenny (now known to most Celtic fans as ‘our shite manager’)’ article without substance or style.

Big Don Gazpachio
11 months ago
Reply to  The Cha

Cheers for the tip, Cha.

I reckon R & D, like the board, ought to pay more attention to the fans onboard here.

It doesn’t take much.

Puggy67
11 months ago

Pals

Puggy67
11 months ago

My main concern is that the board are duped into hiring a cyborg by the Bill Gates/Dave King/Glen Michael Illuminati group. Here’s a link that proves it.
https://www.mccaskiebutcher.co.uk/product/pork-link-sausages/

Frank McGaaaarvey
11 months ago

Anyone had the misfortune to read the latest article on CQN in which Brendan Rodgers is compared to Frank Sinatra? Be warned, this is PL propaganda of the highest order and us likely to give you the dry heave.

Big Don Gazpachio
11 months ago

PB has lost his mind with the Pravda.

But comparing BR to Frank must take the imperial biscuit!

The Cha
11 months ago

Has he gone yet?

BornCelt!
11 months ago

Lawwell has proves himself a dog, success dear Celtic board does not mean coming second in a limited market, you want paying Lawwell, so too do the players and agents and the notice boards you so kindly erected untill they found their purpose, notice boards of your ineptitude, that unlike the Celtic board, is a good word that, even spelt it right, show the distancing between the board and the Celtic support who, unlike board members and players except for the Broony’s and Forrests, are here untill our demise. Hope yours, leaving the board not life, comes soon. HH!

11 months ago

Ajer and Bitton are not centre backs never have been. The goalies are average and the midfield have not turned up this season at all.
The forwards are unfit no wingers so the full backs get caught out up the pitch. Its a fuckin joke.
Yet some think we can turn it around not with this team you won’t. They are dire. Bang average that I now struggle to pick a starting 11 due to the dross that’s there.

The Cha
11 months ago

I’m seriously getting worried for the Tea Boy and Cleaning Lady at Celtic Park, as it can’t be long before Ralph and Desi has them in their sights as part of the desperate scraping of the bottom of the barrel for their ‘back lenny’ campaign.

That’s our manager who has catastrophically mismanaged this season and gives every indication that he can make it worse still.

We are setting (bad) records that have stood since the 90s and even the 50s.

This is for a team that was hoovering up all honours available not a generally run of the mill or even slightly bad team, no a record breaking team to worst in 7 decades.

His on-field wretched mismanagement is matched by his off-field pronouncements that make Pedro out to be an intelligent football analyst.

Genuinely, what is it about this disaster that the 10% (my estimate) who still back him, find defensible?

henkesdreadlocks
11 months ago
Reply to  The Cha

He’s a Celtic leg end according to some.

Big Don Gazpachio
11 months ago

He himself created this turnaround, Duncan.

You know this.

No Celtic fan on Earth ever wanted to disparage the man like this but the results alone are the cause of it.

So stop this lame defending of them, and him.

As I’ve already said you might as well back Tony Mowbray for inventing The Huddle.

The past is gone and so should Lenny be.

And Peter.

And Ian ‘The Grass’ Bankier.

And Dermot.

And if Ralph & Desi don’t cop on quick we will be too.

Plenty other good sites around that aren’t following the party line as we all can see.

11 months ago

We are second best no manager with this squad could win the league. They are dire.
Time to admit facts.
The keepers are shite both of them.
The full backs shite
El Hamed Frimpong Taylor and Laxalt wouldnt get a game with sevco.
Jullien and Duffy are the only centre backs. Enough said Ajer and Bitton are not centre backs.
Midfield
Brown is done, Mcgregor refuses to go beyond the strikers and Christie runs around like a headless chicken shooting from ridiculous angles.
Rogic has class but around him is falling apart.
Edouard looks uninterested continues to run into packs of players hes dis heartened with what he sees. Griff Ajeti Kimala to be not fit at this stage of a season is a joke.
Ellynousi blows hot and cold.
The team is bang average.
Second rate and thats how it will finish.
No need to keep going over it every day. Fact is we are shite.

The Cha
11 months ago
Reply to  Jimmybee

This is exactly what fans were saying in the Deila dog days, Brown, Lustig, Forrest etc were done and a complete clear out was required.

We know that a proper manager coming in and the self-same ‘done’ players were the backbone of the Invincibles.

That might not be the case this time and all the players you mention may be truly done but I want a new proper manager and recruitment team to be making those decisions.

We need to avoid the wretched situation where players are got rid off and new ones recruited, which a new manager doesn’t agree with so we have to repeat the expensive process all over again.

11 months ago
Reply to  The Cha

Gordon
Lustig Jozo Boyata Tierney
The backbone of the success.
Add in Roberts Armstrong Sinclair Rogic Griff all scoring goals. We don’t have anywhere near that now.

Big Don Gazpachio
11 months ago
Reply to  Jimmybee

Ffs, Jimmy, that really is like reading the Seville team compared to what we have now!

henkesdreadlocks
11 months ago
Reply to  Jimmybee

Jimmy, we’ve been second rate for years, but the happy clappers will throw the Trebles shite at the argument as if that proves anything. Now we have a viable opponent Lawwell’s complacency/ignorance is coming back to bite us in the biggest way possible. If you have a good team and manager you make the Champions League. If you have a good team and a shite manager what we’re witnessing now is what you get.

Iancelt67
11 months ago
Reply to  Jimmybee

Well done Celtic. Finally some balls. Start of a fight back. They’re fucking shite. We have been asleep

11 months ago
Reply to  Jimmybee

Interestingly enough Lenny had the option to keep Gordon Lustig Jozo Sinclair choose not too.
Make of that what you will.

11 months ago
Reply to  Jimmybee

Yes its documented m8

Big Don Gazpachio
11 months ago
Reply to  Jimmybee

There you go again!

Ffs, man, ‘Last season’ was last season, stop living in the past and wake the fvck up!

And don’t try to throw the Lille result in here either, he’s lost his mojo, lost the fans and lost the dressing room.

The only people backing him are you, Desi, Ralph & the board.

Hmmm …

I think I’m starting to see a pattern here …

Big Don Gazpachio
11 months ago

Parkheid, mate.

But that made me laugh.

henkesdreadlocks
11 months ago
Reply to  Jimmybee

If you read it correctly I said we’ve been second rate for years and that included Rodgers tenure. Where Rodgers is light years ahead of the current incumbent is that he got the best out of his team but lost heavily to teams of a much higher calibre having qualified for the CL, For all his failures in Europe Rodgers did manage a few decent showings against a Man City team at their best and a decent showing against the likes of Bayern. Strangely Cluj, Copenhagen, Ferencvaros, Sparta Prague obviously must fall into a similar category in your mind and you must think the Europa League is of the same quality as the CL. We are now, thanks to Lawwell and Lennon not only not near CL qualification, we now aren’t even anywhere near a Europa League quality team.
As for last season’s Europa League, it was two great and very fortuitous wins against a Lazio team chasing Serie A and two solid wins against Cluj and Rennes.

It is you who need to get a grip.

LLMG

henkesdreadlocks
11 months ago

Please don’t respond to me from now on. Thank you.

Big Don Gazpachio
11 months ago
Reply to  Jimmybee

All good points, Jimmy, but the team isn’t shite, it’s the backdrop, the fact they signed the 5WA then lied to us about even seeing it, Lawwell’s little fiefdom with the Strachan family and his favourite agent Duhan Duhan.

Peter Lawwell & Dermot Desmond killed the Celtic we knew the second they agreed to have the 5WA signed, sealed & delivered to ensure that any form of a ‘Rangers’ could not only take part in but actually win the Scottish Premier League.

The newest full time club in Scotland, only 8 years load and already potential SPL winners!

Imagine if they never got that Third Division spot and it was Spartans that were 13 points ahead of us now …

Its a fvckin joke, Jimmy, they sold the jerseys, and with our money at that and for yon the cvnts will never be forgiven.

Big Don Gazpachio
11 months ago

The point is it should never have been allowed to happen, and certainly not with the collusion & compliance of the Celtic board in the conspiracy of The Same Club Myth.

For conspiracy it was.

And ‘theory’ has fvck all to with it, it’s a fact.

Rob O'Keeffe
11 months ago

Ralph?You state that the Huns are millions in debt(which we knew they were prepared to go into to stop 10) with no way to pay it off,then point out that CL money will pay it off?Seems worth the risk.Behind the scenes it is utter chaos,believe me.If I actually told you what some of the players have said to Lenny you would look like Lenny looks.This “team” can’t win 5 games in a row let alone a league.As for the scum turning up at Parkhead,chasing cars and team buses,take your own advice and shoot yourselves…..A Club Like No Other…..Jesus Wept…

Big Don Gazpachio
11 months ago
Reply to  Rob O'Keeffe

So he’s lost the dressing room because the team have no respect for either him or his methods?

As we all knew months ago.

So why is he still in a job?

Give us a few clues as to what the team think of Lawwell & Desmond so we can piece this shifty jigsaw the gither bit by bit, would ye, Rob?

Cheers.

And don’t you ever diss Celtic fans for voicing their right to protest when we have scum like PL, Bankier & Desmond within our own club’s walls.

Puggy67
11 months ago

Shoot the psychologist!

Bhoys Chief Scout
11 months ago

How I feel

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11 months ago

Better 45 but still a nervousness about them at the back.
Jullien with a stupid free kick McGregor been playing with brown too long no need to go back with the pass. Everybody is in a rush to take shys free kicks calm fuckin down. Soro Turnbull Ellynoussi Kimala all doing well.
Let’s see it out celtic please.

11 months ago

Let’s see it out hoops please

Salad queen
11 months ago
Reply to  Jimmybee

Great result but still pish. With the Glasgow teams results tonight .
The winners of the spl in season 2022 will go straight into the champions league.
Wonder who that will be Peter/Dermot?

Big Don Gazpachio
11 months ago
Reply to  Salad queen

Parks of Hamilton?

henkesdreadlocks
11 months ago

If we could pump Soro full of growth hormones I think we’d have one helluva player.

Monti
11 months ago

Henke,
I thought he was outstanding

henkesdreadlocks
11 months ago
Reply to  Monti

He certainly was. I was just saying if he was a touch bigger he’d be a real destroyer in there.

Monti
11 months ago

Outstanding tonight Celtic, well done!
Soro, Turnbull & Laxalt outstanding!
Much, much better!

Yoker Bhoy
11 months ago

Good gutsy performance and for once we looked like a serious football team. Definitely want to see these young players go straight into the side against Killie on Sunday. Maybe Hazard can stake a claim to become our permanent number one goalie. Brilliant if that could happen.

henkesdreadlocks
11 months ago

One swallow does not a summer make, but to see Henderson, Soro ,Turnbull having such a big impact on the side gives a glimmer of something more potent in the future, a future which should start as of now, they simply have to play from the off on Sunday. Begs the question as to why we haven’t seen them get much more time than they’ve been allowed so far. Hazard did everything that was asked of him and Ajer and Julien were excellent. Hope wee Frimpong is ok as he seemed to have his mojo back before he took that sore one.

BJF
11 months ago

Pleased with the performance but it makes Sunday so vital. Monty says dont give up on 10IAR, well he has more strength to his argument now, maybe. Soro, Turnbull should get a run, Ajer was magnificent, a potential mid fielder who can dribble! Mo brilliant, Hazard has to start on Sunday, Henderson and Klimala,Laxhalt and Julien all did well.
Ironically in my view McGregor our best player but tonight others stole the show, great character though.

The Cha
11 months ago
Reply to  BJF

McGregor was very poor and, by and large, he always has been under lennon.

The first time round he needed to leave in order to develop.

This time round he’s going backwards in terms of development.

This is much a facet of modern management as simply getting ‘oven ready’ players and playing them.

Monti
11 months ago
Reply to  The Cha

Cha,
I don’t agree with your points about McGregor, he has been excellent for Celtic season after season for years now.
I think the lad has been overplayed like Tierney before him.
Quite simply he needs a few games rest.

henkesdreadlocks
11 months ago
Reply to  Monti

He could certainly do with a break, but I’ve never seen so many stray passes from him and that’s been the case since the start of this season.

11 months ago
Reply to  BJF

10 in a row is gone all thats left is 2 cups we won’t beat sevco.
Anyone who thinks differently hasnt been paying attention.

Monti
11 months ago
Reply to  Jimmybee

Nothing is gone!

Big Don Gazpachio
11 months ago
Reply to  Jimmybee

It ain’t over til it’s over, Jimmy.

Billionaires overrule written contracts every day as none of them are worth the paper they’re written on.

How the big chief reacts is key to everything from this minute in.

Unless he’s no as big as he appears to be.

Big Don Gazpachio
11 months ago

That’s better.

Big Don Gazpachio
11 months ago

All frivolity aside, the woman who set up the anti vax & anti Big Pharma site Learn The Risk. Org, which I e posted links to on the other thread, was found dead by her 9 year old son on Tuesday morning.

Thats Tuesday the 8th of December, the very same day they vaxxed the 90 year old woman and the guy called William Shakespeare on national & international television …

That’s right, the very same day the vax rolls out the biggest known vocal anti vaxxer on Earth is found dead in her own home …

Now if I was a copper I’d have serious misgivings about the timing of this woman’s death.

Because as they keep telling us on cop shows ‘There’s no such thing as coincidence.’

There are only connections.

BroxburnBhoy
11 months ago

Loony Tunes Again – you really are an Olympic standard arsehole

Monti
11 months ago
Reply to  BroxburnBhoy

BB,
That’s not very nice!

Big Don Gazpachio
11 months ago
Reply to  BroxburnBhoy

I’d be very careful what I write if I were you from now on, Ibrox boy.

Especially noo the young team know that you forgot to cover yer router.

Big Don Gazpachio
11 months ago
Reply to  BroxburnBhoy

You examined they Gates Foundation payante numbers yet, scumbag?

The ones that prove Gates will make tens of billions off both his patented ‘unique coronavirus’ AND its va c cine, which they have since January last year?

But didn’t tell us about?

Huv ye, cvnt?

Paranoid celt
11 months ago

Don’t dare question vaccines you tinfoil blah blah blah.
Spending billions on vaccines for something with a +99% survival rate while millions of children die of starvation every year is just right. Selfish people who refuse a vaccine shouldn’t be allowed to participate in society the filthy disease ridden vermin.

11 months ago

Said it before will say it again Ajer is a far better player in the opposition half. 2 goals he created by winning the ball and taking on players.
Totally wasted as a centre back.
Put the big man in the middle where he belongs beside soro.
Changing of the guard is long overdue.

Uralius
11 months ago

I wonder if we the fans have grounds to sue, “rangers”, our own board and the SFA. I mean if Texas can sue states for undermining the election surely we can do it for undermining our national sport. Maybe it’s an angle that’s already been considered. Perhaps we could get “ra people” to sure for mental anguish and stress sustained. You know like a mutual chaos move to force a shakeup. Perhaps Kille fans could also do it. All fans even those we hate causing complete and utter chaos, in an attempt to take back our game.

Iljas Baker
11 months ago

Great result and at long last NL rung the changes and we saw youthful motivation and energy and skill. He must stick with them for Sunday. If they are knackered then substitute them but definitely start the same team except for Henderson in place of Frimpong if he’s injured. But still they need decent coaching and that might require new coaches now rather than a new manager. The present coaches can be moved around for the moment and new coaches teach how to defend, how to break down a defensive wall, the kind that Kilmarnock will erect, and how to win the midfield against Hearts and rangers. Soro and Turnbull will play a big part but make sure they know what’s required. I think NLand his coaches will be gone at the end of this season win or lose 10IAR. But it’s better if he leaves from a position of strength. Still I think it will be worth investing in these young players who are the future (Hazard, Klimala, Soro, Turnbull, Frimpong and bring on some of the other youngsters such as Welsh. Those that will be leaving really have to earn their place from now on and are more likely to feature as substitutes. We need a modern coach with ambition and given resources to compete in Europe. He needs to have excellent coaches, people who have been winners outside of Scotland and preferably in Europe too. If the Board goes then that’s excellent too.

portpower
11 months ago

Was a brilliant win.

But I lost it when Shane tried to header the ball while thinking it was his Birthday, eyes closed to blow the candles out and thought his top falsies were to take a dive.

That is 2020. Do not and try to think of it.

portpower
11 months ago
Reply to  portpower

Lost it by laughter I meant to say. We`ve all been in that place before.

Would Duffy make a good defensive coach?

portpower
11 months ago
Reply to  portpower

Gday Duncan,

did you see that left footed keeper off of one step send the leather ball miles over the half way line to the space where the lazy effers shouldve been?

portpower
11 months ago
Reply to  portpower

Let it in and lose?

portpower
11 months ago
Reply to  portpower

Too be.

portpower
11 months ago

Jeremie is no covered by those at the back.(and no he shouldn`t be) Pulling out of a 50/50 tackles is taking its toll.

portpower
11 months ago

Ive got it and then to keer ones knee into one`s nose…
if you do not laugh for doing as such, there is something seriously wrong with you.

portpower
11 months ago

Parapherenalia at Hampdens auditorium...Longmuir and Ballintines instrument of debernture debre.

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