Celtic Diary Monday May 25 : Part One : Resolution 12 : Where Now ?

This part of a special two part edition of todays Diary deals with the serious stuff.

There’ll be a more light hearted edition later, if i can think of anything light hearted to type about.

 

 

There are more questions than answers over the clubs handling of the Resolution 12 issue, and as supporters ponder whether or not to claim the refunds available for the portion of games that weren’t played last season, here’s an email that could maybe help to raise the level of awareness at Celtic Park as to exactly how we feel, that those of you still considering what to do with your refunds, might like to copy and send…

 

 

 

Good afternoon John Paul,

I hope this mail finds you & yours well.

I’m writing to you as I am torn between leaving my refund with Celtic as a goodwill gesture & retrieving it in protest to response to & management of Res12 by our board.

Like all supporters I am over the moon with our on field achievements and appreciate the club is run fantastically well financially, however the handling of Res12 has been a real low point.

I think it worth highlighting the numerous conversations I’ve had with other supporters considering the same. Before my decision is made I’d like to offer the club an opportunity to comment. To that end could you please forward this mail to senior Management to make then aware of the situation?

Naturally I’m happy to discuss in more detail if required. Thanks once again for your help.  

 

 

The issue isn’t going to go away, its now just a matter of what action will be taken next.

The sooner Lawwell et al realise that then the sooner we can get it sorted.

 

 

Over on CQN, Brogan Rogan Trevino posted some thoughts, which deserve to be repeated….

 

Good Afternoon. (Long Post- sorry)

“Implication” is a great word. When something is implied it is not stated for certain, but it is heavily hinted at.

Another great word is “Consequence”

A Consequence is something that is stronger and more tangible than anything that is implied.

A Direct consequence is much firmer and more certain than anything that is implied, and of course there are consequences when you do something, and there are consequences when you fail to do something.

So here is part of the SFA’s statement with one word substituted for the other.

“following consideration of the consequences of such a referral”.

They used the word implication, but in reality they meant consequences.

Before considering the devastating consequence of not referring the matter to CAS, let’s recap on the history here without getting bogged down in the detail, because in all honesty the detail of what actually happened in 2011/2012 is now a squirrel of gigantic proportions.

The facts are these.

By 2013 there was sufficient evidence available to merit further investigation into the UEFA licence application concerned.

The board of Celtic PLC had instigated their own enquiries as they had seen enough to request clarification from then SFA CEO Stewart Regan.

Regan responded with replies which were misleading, inaccurate and, some would say dismissive. His letters terminated with the suggestion that Celtic should be satisfied with his responses and that should be an end of the matter.

It wasn’t.

By this time shareholders had gathered further evidence and questioned the responses provided by Regan. They also asked the board to bypass the SFA and take the matter to UEFA as they had no faith in the SFA which Celtic themselves had previously described as not being fit for purpose.

The information available cast severe doubt not only on Mr Regan’s responses but on the efficiency of the SFA in analysing the information provided in support of the licence application, in determining the information required to approve such an application, the interpretation and application of the licensing rules, and the reasons stated by Regan for granting the application.

Mr Regan, in passing, also stressed that the SFA’s entire modus operandi had been audited by UEFA – only for later evidence to emerge which suggested that this was simply just not the case.

Instead of the matter being at an end, all Regan had done was provide more evidence which merited further questions.

In response to those further questions, we know fine well that he drafted his answers and sent them to Ibrox for prior approval – only to be told that his draft response would be embarrassing for both RFC and the SFA.

Consequences eh?

So another letter goes back to Celtic, again “implying” that the matter was closed.

What was Celtic to do at this stage?

One of the difficulties here was that Celtic were privy to information which was not in the public domain as such and about which there were questions of provenance.

Now lets be clear about what Provenance means.

The provenance of a document is not just its authenticity or being able to prove who wrote it, but also how it got from A to B, what it says, who saw it, relied on it and so on.

Equally, under no circumstances were the board of Celtic PLC going to make further enquiries on the back of documents which others could claim were fake, could deny, and could be used to cause trouble for Celtic — and they were professionally correct to take that stand.

However some of the documentation and information could be stood up. It had been produced in courts of law by either the authors or the recipients and to that extent they were in the public domain and were accessible.

At this stage, it should always be remembered that the SFA have full powers of inquiry and can mount investigations, ask questions and demand the recovery of files from any football club and indeed the tax authorities and others.

All requests asking the SFA to do this and to look into the matter further were rejected.

So, after a certain period of time, Celtic have some information, but not all, and they have some information which they can’t really use because its provenance is not 100% in their eyes.

At this stage, shareholders, quite separate to the board of Celtic PLC instruct an international firm of solicitors and, using some of the information available, start to ask questions separately.

Meanwhile, the board of Celtic PLC ask the SFA about one particular document – a letter – and ask the then Corporate Compliance Officer (Andrew McKinlay) if the document is held within the SFA files or not?

Privately, shareholders are told that Mr McKinlay, (having been appraised of the nature of the concerns of Celtic PLC and the shareholders) is of the view that if the letter is missing from SFA files then there will have to be an inquiry. He also was of the opinion that if the letter was in the SFA files — there would have to be an inquiry!!

Clearly, all was not ok within the state of Denmark so to speak.

Meanwhile, the SFA reply to the shareholders lawyers and commence what can only be described as a litany of excuses for not answering questions and for taking no action whatsoever. Over the next few years they would say:

They can’t answer questions, or examine evidence, unless the questions are asked directly by a member club and any evidence is produced by a member club. (There may be good grounds in law to challenge this but they are as yet untested).

Later they said that they could not make any further enquiries, conduct a formal inquiry, or report to UEFA on the season concerned, because they were time barred from doing so.

They also said that certain matters were confidential to clubs and could not be shared or commented upon.

In the interim they sought to further explain themselves but did no more than tie themselves in knots when faced with further information.

At one point shareholders were able to show that Stewart Regan had publicly answered one particular issue or question with at least four contradictory and different answers.

Then the SFA suggested that shareholders write to UEFA with their concerns and stated clearly that if UEFA instigated an inquiry then the SFA would respond fully and that would get them over the time bar hurdle.

They even provided the name and address of a UEFA man to write to!

Well, being cynics, shareholders chose to write to someone else entirely who was far higher up the food chain.

It would be fair to say that Celtic did not want to go directly to UEFA, as had originally been requested, and preferred to go through the SFA — presumably because they were members of that association and because they wanted to rehearse other issues with UEFA.

In any event, UEFA responded and clarified a few things.

They directly contradicted some of what Regan had said previously, provided some further and new information which was interesting but only partly relevant, but again stated that they couldn’t really correspond with anyone other than a member club and effectively invited Celtic to take the matter up with them directly.

Celtic didn’t do that – and the explanation for that at the time was that the board were involved in so many things and so many discussions with UEFA and the SFA that they wanted to pick their battles and their battleground so to speak.

That happens in all walks of business and in this instance this was not a matter that Celtic PLC wanted to take forward at that time. Later, Shareholders would be told at a much later AGM that UEFA were not interested – despite what they had written in their letter.

Of course, in the background the wheels of justice in the outside world continued to turn and first the Supreme Court and then the High Court ruled.

It was in the course of those hearings, particularly the High Court Trial of Craig Whyte, that what Paul refers to as “New Evidence” comes to light — although much of the evidence was not in fact new ( as it had by this time been known for years) but it was spoken to directly by witnesses who could and did absolutely verify the provenance of what had been said before.

As a consequence (that word again) Regan pronounced that the SFA had likely been duped, and Celtic and the SPL called for a full inquiry — which the SFA refused. Surprise Surprise.

Instead, The SFA ordered that there be a limited inquiry with a view to bringing disciplinary charges — all question of time bar and that sort of thing having magically disappeared.

In the background shareholders continued to ask, and indeed answer, questions.

For example, the letter which Andrew McKinlay suggested would merit an inquiry had not turned up and shareholders were asked to furnish an alleged copy which the SFA would make enquiries on.

Later, we were told that the supposed recipient of that letter had never received it and that the party to whom it was addressed had never seen it which would explain why it had never made its way to the SFA files.

Alas, when shareholders were able to produce a replying letter acknowledging receipt of the letter concerned and which dealt with its contents in some detail — this particular myth was scotched big style amidst no little embarrassment.

As an aside, even after the letter which sparked all this activity had been delivered to Hampden and acknowledged, it once again went missing from the SFA files and during the course of the above mentioned SFA investigation they had to write to shareholders and request a further copy.

Strangely the first two letters requesting that further copy never reached the shareholders lawyers and their existence only came to light when the SFA head of security phoned up to ask why his letters were being ignored.

I will leave you to consider the implications of this chain of events for the moment.

Returning to the SFA internal inquiry, after some considerable time the SFA actually determine that their investigations and inquiries have produced enough evidence to merit bringing disciplinary charges against RFC in relation to the UEFA licence application.

The SFA don’t refer the matter to UEFA – they proceed with charges under their own rules, and in terms of UEFA rules.

By this time, the chap in charge of bringing these charges for the SFA is Mr McGlennan.

Mr Regan and Mr McKinlay are still in the building however.

Back at Celtic Park shareholders are told that persistence has indeed beaten resistance because after years of foraging and corresponding disciplinary charges are being brought and the evidence will be heard. Celtic are disappointed that their call for a full independent inquiry has been rejected but at least part of the matter is now going before an independent tribunal and we will wait and see what comes of that.

But here comes a spanner in the works.

RFC (or The Rangers Football Club Ltd) raise some preliminary points of law with the independent tribunal.

These preliminary points may well relate to not only the legal status of the defendant, but also to the time parameters of the charges, and the jurisdiction of the tribunal itself.

Auldheid is very vexed about what happened with regard to the time period to be considered and learns that the original charges posted on the SFA website seem to have been secretly amended with the material times to be examined being supposedly reduced. Further, before the charges are even dealt with a statement is issued by RFC saying that in relation to the key dates that have been dropped, the SFA have determined that there is no case to answer and that the issue is at an end.

Although how they can do that if they now never had jurisdiction I don’t quite follow.

Given that this statement declaring no case to answer was issued over two years before the most recent one from the SFA and is never contradicted by the SFA – I will leave you to draw your own conclusions.

Eventually the judicial panel rule that they don’t have jurisdiction and recommend that the case go to CAS for determination.

When this matter is raised with Celtic PLC, The board once again take the matter up with the SFA and come back with the comment that the matter will go to CAS — “Why wouldn’t it?”

However, by this time there are other matters to consider in this sorry tale.

After years of failing to investigate, report to UEFA and take any action whatever, the SFA have finally determined that they can and should bring charges, alleging breaches of football rules, based on the evidence they have in-gathered..

Only for an independent tribunal, chaired by a legally qualified chairman, to determine that the SFA, in this instance, cannot prosecute and appoint a panel to hear and determine whether or not there has been a breach of the SFA’s own rules.

Let that sink in for a moment — for whatever reason — an independent judicial panel have determined that the SFA CANNOT enforce its own rules by way of a legal hearing.

Now why would that be

Just what are the “implications” of that ruling and what might the “consequences” be?

Could it be that the rules and regulations of the SFA (and UEFA for that matter) are absolutely unenforceable in Scotland unless the SFA stands aside, acts only as prosecutor and refers each and every case where there is an alleged rule breach to CAS?

If that is the case the implication is that every football club and every player in Scotland can breach every rule in the book and the SFA can do nothing about it unless they go to CAS.

Surely that can’t be right?

Or is the position, as has been suggested, that the referral to CAS is only applicable in this case because of the famous 5 way agreement — which of course is supposedly an agreement between the SFA, the SPL, the SFL and those with an interest (of whatever kind) in just one football club?

If so, then the clear implication is that by design or sheer incompetence, the SFA has by way of that agreement contractually signed away its rights to enforce its own rules and conduct its own hearings in respect of just one club within its association!

That would be an astonishing set of circumstances yet there is a fair degree of evidence to suggest that this is precisely where we are.

Basically, the club charged via the SFA process does not come under the jurisdiction of the SFA in certain circumstances, and in its statement the SFA is making clear that they cannot proceed with any referral to CAS for fear of the implications and the potential consequences of the hearing and the eventual ruling.

What a farce?

But wait because the questions do not stop there.

By this time, Mr Regan, Mr McKinlay and Mr McGlennan, who you will recall brought the charges, have all left the building leaving a trail of idiotic devastation behind them and an almighty legal mess for others to clean up as best they can.

I have to ask why they brought the charges in the first place if the 5 way agreement contractually debarred an SFA independent panel from considering those same charges and enforcing SFA rules?

They must have known of the terms of the 5 way agreement but did they not understand what they had signed up to? Did they not realise that in effect the 5 way agreement totally neutered the SFA in respect of one club?

Yet that is what the panel has ruled and it is my guess that this what the SFA are afraid CAS will rule.

So, after years and years of obfuscation, irregular replies, contradictory responses, and eventual charges alleging rule breaches — there is to be no hearing, no ruling, no conclusion. Not because the evidence isn’t strong enough or because the charges have been refuted in fact or explained away, but because the SFA is afraid to proceed and disclose that it contracted out of its own rules in one instance?

Oh well. That’s that then.

Or is it?

I believe that shareholders in the game can and should challenge this.

I think Celtic should for the sake of their business, but won’t because time has moved on, the club has secured nine in a row and so the fans won’t care a jot at this time/

That however is short termism.

Everybody knows now what happened in season 2011/2012. The evidence came out in court. The SFA were misled by one club and there are direct and implied consequences for every other club.

Now imagine if the deception of the SFA continued after the period involved in the UEFA licensing process

Someone who is behind with their taxes may well be behind in relation to other payments — such as those promised in a side letter to a trust in Jersey. Could it be that right up until 2012 payments were being made to those trusts out of sight of the SFA and in breach of SFA rules?

You might possibly think that — I couldn’t possibly comment.

However all of that is history and many fans will be vexed with the question could the Celtic board have done more; Were the Celtic board privy to the 5 way agreement, had they seen it, are they involved etc?

The CEO said very clearly at last years AGM that he had not seen the 5 way – and that to be honest is my greatest worry.

If that is correct, and I am not going to suggest that it is incorrect, then the implications and consequences are horrific.

It would mean that a club like Celtic can enter SFA competitions each year on the basis of the football rules as presented to them only to find that the SFA has agreed to change those rules in secret and behind closed doors without telling Celtic or any other club.

It would mean that officials within the SFA have free reign to enter into agreements and binding contracts which sign away their ability to enforce rules, or to change the rules, without ever consulting Celtic or other clubs.

It would mean that agreements like the 5 way agreement can be entered into and signed by SFA officials who are either crooked, or, so grossly incompetent as to not know what they are doing in terms of jurisdiction and so on.

It would mean that Celtic PLC have a business worth potentially hundreds of millions of pounds which is forced to play within an association structure which has been shown to be way out of control, acts on a frolic of its own, covers up its own incompetence and over which the best business brains at Celtic PLC have little influence and no control whatsoever

It would mean that Celtic PLC cannot, and never could, give any shareholder, season ticket holder, sponsor advertiser, player, agent or anyone else any type of reasonable reassurance that the events narrated above and elsewhere were a one off or could not be repeated in the future.

Others believe that Celtic are complicit in this mess and I have to admit that Peter Lawwell has on occasion done himself no good by boasting that awkward issues have been kicked into the long grass etc — that is disappointing from someone who has shown very good qualities as a CEO over a long period.

However, I have been at meetings when I have been told that when it comes to meetings at the SFA, other clubs simply don’t care about the issue, that Celtic has only one vote, and that the club have tried and have spoken to other club officials and officers but can’t get them interested in any sort of inquiry of any kind.

I genuinely believe that to be the case as Scottish Football is not run like any other business and it is not subject to the law of the real world.

When giving evidence at one hearing I believe that Rod McKenzie stated the opinion that “the law had not caught up with Scottish Football”

What I believe he meant by that was that the law of the outside world does not apply at all times to Scottish Football.

When clubs gather under the auspices of the SFA or the SPFL it is like a conclave of Cardinals in the Sistine Chapel. While the world is outside, it is only their rules and their votes on the inside that matter.

If they chose to amend the rules, ignore the rules, waive the rules, or whatever by way of a vote or an agreement there is nothing you, me or any dissenting club can do about it.

If the implications and consequences for the SFA are construed as harmful in any situation then lets abandon the rules even if that lets injustice prevail and wrongdoing go unpunished.

Noises will be made saying this couldn’t happen again and there has been reform and all that tosh but in actual fact that is nonsense.

The SFA are skint, they can’t afford to monitor the veracity of what club officials present to them and they can’t do, or won’t do, anything about past perpetrators presenting current documentation which require greater scrutiny than in the past if only to ensure there is no repetition of past mistakes.

Can the board of Celtic PLC, or any other club for that matter, guarantee that there will never be another agreement such as the 5 way agreement? I don’t think they can.

Can the SFA, UEFA, Celtic or anyone else guarantee that the SFA will not be misled in future and be found to be inept at dealing with licensing processes and any other such deception — I don’t think they can.

On a commercial basis, can anyone at ADIDAS be confident that the SFA will do all in its power to ensure that UEFA rules will be properly applied and that their strips will rightly and properly be seen in licensed competition with the licensing rules being properly overseen by the people at Hampden — I don’t think they can.

Forget the detail of what happened in the past, the decision of the SFA this week, the timing of which was no accident, has raised questions about the entire future and basis of Scottish Football and its Administration.

If that decision is allowed to stand without comment or challenge then Football in Scotland has been holed below the waterline and the consequences may be fatal.

The precedent has been set. The rules will be broken and flaunted again and the SFA will bot deal with it swiftly or adequately.

And Celtic, their board, their sponsors, shareholders and fans are absolutely powerless to do anything about it.

For them, the implications and consequences are both plain to see and absolutely dire.  

 

 

 

It was posted on CQN so that the sites editor in chief Peter Lawwell could see it, and we can be assured he has.

 

Therefore he must know that this is not going to go away.

 

And if he didn’t , he certainly does by now.

 

Maybe that explains the redness in his face on Celtic TV the other day, which could be anger, embarassment or even high blood pressure.

 

If its none of the above, then perhaps its time to bring the make up staff back from furlough.

 

Here I will profess a little sympathy for Lawwell. His all encompassing controlling style of management is , in fact, combined with a streak of humanity, quite a considerable streak, in fact.

 

He will be more than aware that if he supports any decision to restart football before the Covid virus is fully eradicated or fully treatable, then people, directly or indirectly as a result of any support he has for such a move, will die.

When Neil Lennon was the subject of bombs and bullets through the post, Lawwell had a terrible fear that someone in the reception could open a letter sent to Celtic Park that could contain something that would injure or kill.

 

Thats a hell of a thing to have on your mind, and this pandemic will be playing on his thoughts every day.

 

As opposed to Dominic Cummings, who time after time has proved he doesn’t give a toss about anyone else. Except his toddler, who he drove 2560 miles to get a babysitter for.

Thats his four year old toddler, not the one who’s Prime minister.

For whom he also provides adult care and supervision,

 

 

So perhaps it could be seen as churlish to harp on about Res 12 at this time, and it’s true there are other major concerns.

 

But the least the CEO could do is point that out, and perhaps assure us that he has found the smoking gun he asked for and was given, and was cleaning it up ready to put it on show.

 

 

One avenue, and I have to admit , my own preferred avenue, is to hand over all the evidence to the police.

Not Police Scotland, but the department that deals with fraud and other fincial shennanigans in business.

 

Surprisingly, this is one aspect of Celtic’s failures that the media have failed to pick up on.

Any other issue would have had the press screaming at Lawwell for not looking after supporters and shareholders interests, which in itself shows that the evidence is more than viable, which is confirmed by the media refusing to tackle it and discredit what information is in there.

 

We are in an ongoing sporting and financial scandal, and we can only begin to surmise just how far the web of involvement , from the illegal actions through to the cover up, and when no one wants to touch it, you can only wonder just how wide that web is.

 

So , in that case, it has to go outside the web, and there will be journalists in England, Europe and the USA who will see it for what it is.

 

Thats one route.

 

For me, it’s far simpler just to hand it all over to the boys in blue and let them do their stuff.

 

At the very least, it will provoke wider discussion…and ask questions of those who refused to discuss it until they had to.

 

 

 

 

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Gareth Savage
5 months ago

First!

charlie
5 months ago

the sfa are and always hav been subserviant to the huns its time tae bring the fookers doon ……COYBIG our day has come

charlie
5 months ago

zero tolerance tae cheats 23 in a row should be in the record books

Devoy45
5 months ago
Reply to  charlie

Good work!We are all grateful for it.

Mike
5 months ago

Honesty in any sport is in short supply. From Lance Armstrong, Ben Johnson, to blood capsules in Rugby and whole Russian Olympic squads and too many others to fit onto this page. Its not often that you get “Honest Men” like the Resolutioners pursuing a worthy cause. The SFA. have always been seen as, if not dishonest then certainly tainted, favouring only one club. You only need to look into Celtic’s past to know that. From the Kelly’s-Whyte’s turnstile numbers magic, and then suddenly along came a glimmer of hope in Fergus McCann. His enthusiasm in taking on the SFA. was not lost on the Celtic support who welcomed it. “If only they were honest” and informed the Celtic support of why this board led the Res.12 bhoys into a cul-de-sac and at great expense knowing that Res.12 had to go to Lausanne to CAS. “If only they were honest” and admitted the part they played in, if not forming but acknowledging the 5 Way Agreement and the damage that it causes to the judicial protocols of Scottish football, then perhaps we might understand their reasons for doing so. But no, so the fight for honesty continues along its long and winding road.

Sancheto
5 months ago

Stinks to high heaven, so what to do? Well as I have said before we as Celtic Supporters/shareholders have to step up to the plate! If we all agree that money is the oxygen of all football in Scotland then we have to make a stand and boycott all SFA Scottish Cup matches both home and away, we cannot complain about the SFA doing sweet FA and continue to fund their corruption. We should also not attend any away matches in the league.This would focus the mind of the all the chairman of all the clubs who were not interested in the issue to become very interested as their bumper payday by playing against Celtic disappears! Let’s see how quickly the become interested in the issue! I know that not supporting the team at away/SC games is a massive step to take but IMHO it is the only way anything will change. We also have to show we support our club and have their back by stepping up and buying our season tickets. I know that these steps will be both emotionally and financially difficult but nobody said this will be easy. As for PL and the club (and other clubs?) well I think that the SFA have been very clever in sending the 5WA agreement email out, they deliberately implicated PL/Celtic (other clubs) that they must have known about the 5WA and agreed with it when it was already a done deal between RFC/SFA/SPL/SFL or maybe I am too naive!

None of this will be easy but since this situation came to light in 2011/12 I have refused to go to a Scotland or Scottish Cup game but, I will be renewing my ST when asked.

Auldheid
5 months ago
Reply to  Sancheto

Sancheto
The e mail was not from the SFA it was from the SPL CEO Doncaster to the SPL Board including Eric Riley as well as to Peter Lawwell in an uncertain capacity.
I think the last thing Doncaster would try to do is to set up Peter Lawwell.

Also Lawwell denying sight of it does not support your theory.

Sancheto
5 months ago
Reply to  Auldheid

Auldheid thank you for setting the record straight and thank you for all your and all the other resolutioners sterling work.

sfa unfit for purpose
5 months ago

This is a post from Thursday that never made it past the moderator .
Mr Lawell made it quite clear at the Celtic AGM last year what he thinks of Resolution 12. That’s why He advised his fellow shareholders to vote Down the resolution , which they duly did.
Any action by him now will be purely superficial. He may play to the gallery a bit but there will be no substance.
The smoking gun he Asked for , and was provided with has long since been decommissioned.
Money and the bottom line are all he is interested in. Not to be confused with whats best for Celtic and its support.
£3.5 Mil a year to pay lip service to the support , easy money.
I would not be surprised if Lawell had suggested to the SFA when to drop the story so it had the least impact.
He is in it up to his neck , just as guilty and complicit as anyone else in this ongoing debacle.
HH

sfa unfit for purpose
5 months ago

Any posts criticising Lawell seem to be disappearing….

sfa unfit for purpose
5 months ago

Mr Lawell made it quite clear at the Celtic AGM last year what he thinks of Resolution 12. That’s why He advised his fellow shareholders to vote Down the resolution , which they duly did.
Any action by him now will be purely superficial. He may play to the gallery a bit but there will be no substance.
The smoking gun he Asked for , and was provided with has long since been decommissioned.
Money and the bottom line are all he is interested in. Not to be confused with what’s best for Celtic and its support.
£3.5 Mil a year to pay lip service to the support , easy money.
I would not be surprised if Lawell had suggested to the S.F.A. when to drop the story so it had the least impact.
He is in it up to his neck , just as guilty and complicit as anyone else in this ongoing debacle.
HH

sfa unfit for purpose
5 months ago

Mr Lawell made it quite clear at the Celtic AGM last year what he thinks of Resolution 12. That’s why He advised his fellow shareholders to vote Down the resolution , which they duly did.
Any action by him now will be purely superficial. He may play to the gallery a bit but there will be no substance.
The smoking gun he Asked for , and was provided with has long since been decommissioned.

HH

Man in Denial
5 months ago

Thanks for setting all of this out. Will be emailing JPT along the lines of the email above

Jhimbhoab
5 months ago

The police are more corrupt that the Scottish footballing hierarchy.

5 months ago
Reply to  Jhimbhoab

Investigation of suspected Business Fraud is the remit of The City of London Police Force. ( not the Met).
So it is outwith the reach of the complicit Scottish Legal system. The Masons south of the border don’t have the same affilation to the ” Institution” that is SEVCO.
Pass the evidence. There is no time bar on Fraud. get this settled for once and for all. Obtain a conviction against RFC and or SFA then hold a judicial Inquiry re the same Club Shite and Stripping the Titles from Old and NewCo.
I would be happy enoughh to see them being marked with an asterisk. Don’t want them. They truly are Tainted Titles.Let the Record Books show the full period of Cheating and Corruption.

H.H.
Stay Safe. Stay Home.

Michael Thomas
5 months ago

A BIG Thank-you to the res 12 guys, Yes i agree Let the Police have a look at it. Inform the sfa it’s not going to go away and also questions are going to be asked of future licences

andy
5 months ago

Anybody that thinks lawwell is going to chase this up is living in cloudcuckooland some supporters should stop being fooled with him and his lies, thankfully all of us are not fooled with him, he is only interested in his obscene salary and celtic have been successful in spite of him not because of him, he asked for a smoking gun which he got and did nothing which was no surprise as he’s part of the scam. If he wanted to he could have found this smoking gun himself which is his job but he had no interest which this itself is a disgrace as it’s his job to do the best for the club which he doesnt, he does the best for Peter lawwell end of.

Mike
5 months ago

I’le raise your Messi for Jinky,
I’le raise your Puyol for Cesar,
I’le raise your Inesta for Murdoch,
I’le raise your Xavi for Auld,
I’le raise your Guardiola for Stein.
I’le raise your Barcelona for Celtic.
Simpson- Craig- Gemmell- Murdoch- Cesar- Clark- Johnstone- Wallace- Chalmers- Auld- Lennox.
*The Lisbon Lions, Celtic’s history men*

Cartvale88
5 months ago

This issue is not moving anywhere, the great and the good have closed ranks with their bigotry.
Liewell is a businessman and accountant he wraps himself in the flag but he is motivated by the shekels. This is the time to bury Sevco as they are in a mess, go for ten and ensure another success.

Monti
5 months ago

It’s time to hand over all evidence to the Police.
Just make sure there is a few copies made.

Auldheid
5 months ago
Reply to  Monti

Who is going to do that and on behalf of whom?
It cannot be done by walking into the local plod for obvious reasons.
Legal advice og going to the police is needed but they might boot it into touch as the least of their worries.
DD knows all about Res12 but as long as PL brings in the sheckels he is bomb proof but the supporters keep giving him the sheckels to bring in…
I have sympathy that our main rivals have required PL to deceive the Celtic support to keep them alive.
If that was the price of accepting the 5 Way Agreement it should never have been paid.

Una
5 months ago

I see hagis agent hit the nail on the head declaring that sevco are Scotland’s Juventus.
“Cheating Bastards”

The Name Of The True Rebel
5 months ago

You trust the boys in blue, Malphie?
The same as you trust the government and the health services that there really IS a ‘killer virus’ out there but with NO EVIDENCE of its existence, no Mass Fatalities, no Overflowing Undertakers, no Mass Burials?
Well, Malphie boy, that shows you up to be an even bigger idiot than even we first took you for as there is no virus nor mass fatalities and you can see this with your own eyes if you switch off your trumpet box in the corner and look around you.

Covid is a cover for what the shadow elite government is going to do to people worldwide and if you want to take Bill Gates the computer designer’s vaccine filled with mercury, aluminium, formaldehyde and aborted foetal cells you go right ahead.
After all, who among us wouldn’t want to be injected with dead baby parts to keep a non existent ‘virus’ at bay?

You bloggers really are the epitome of football fans being stupider than stupid himself yet you’ve the cheek to call the Huns gullibillies when you lot are worse because you all think you’re all so clever.

You’re a gang of sad disinformed idiot clowns, Richie, an embarrassment to humanity.

Tony Paterson
5 months ago

BBC Sportsound had the SFA Chief Exec Ian Maxwell as a guest on Saturday. Just a few weeks after grilling the SPFL Chief Exec over a series of unsubstantiated rumours, the BBC’s Chief Soupswriter, Tom English did not ask a single question of the SFA man on the content of his statement shutting down any investigation on this issue.

5 months ago

My mates Da used to refer to the huns,as the SFA’s WORKTEAM…..
and that was about 45 yrs ago.
We have now had two decades of of dominance….10IAR will
give us the third .
And the banter years continue.

Funkyy
5 months ago

Lawwell knew. If the shoe had been on the other foot and Celtic had done a fraction of what was going on at Ibrox the SFA, the media and the huns would have gleefully put the boot in and buried us. And yet Lawwell does the square root of fuck all…why? Answer:-
Money…the root of ALL evil.

Ade
5 months ago

Season ticket refunds could be used to crowd fund. Lawell complicit and nevermind 45 years of one club bending rules or given preferential treatment, try since the SFAs inception. Makes me sick that they’ve tried to brush it under the carpet at this time. John James states he and Eric Riley knew.
Great article and reviews above.

Mike
5 months ago

Resolution 12. When you look back and you learn of all that went on to give *Rangers entry into the Champions League at Celtic’s expense (an undetermined amount) but still a substantial amount, millions of pounds. You wonder at the reason why the Celtic board led by Peter Lawwell could have had for not fighting for our money, after all Res.12 was a proven following the trials. Did they think that keeping them solvent was a better objective? Missing files, downright lies from the SFA. and their *Rangers placemen within that organisation all ignored by the Celtic board. And then the “creme de meth.” The 5 Way Agreement: Initially containing the “stripping of titles”, McCoist’s and other *Rangers voices and pain filled cries to stop that must have led to it being removed from that despicable agreement. All designed to keep them in the League and to keep the bigot pound and Scottish football is left with its detritus. You must wonder if they have any regrets about it and its effect on Scottish footballs honesty. It makes Watergate seem mild by comparison.
#sent to Peter Lawwell but not his secretary on Thursday, 26th. July 2012. “I will assume that you are in agreement unless I hear otherwise by 10am on Friday 27th. July”- signed “Kind regards-Neil.

Mike
5 months ago

The SFA’s motto: FTP. Hugh Dallas-King.
*Rangers motto: Aye Ready (to cheat).
Celtic’s motto: Aye Ready (to win).

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