Disturbing news from the ranch reaches us this morning, concerning a change in the owners fiscal policy that affects the peace of mind of the ranch hands.
Whereas before they were looked after with the best of everything, there has been a marked downturn in the quality of, er, saddles and horseshoes.
If right, and there’s no reason to disbelieve this, we may be in for a season of discontent both off and on the pitch.
Sure, Celtic have cash in the bank, perhaps more than at any time on their history, but it appears that there is a marked reluctance to actually spend any of it.
You’ll note that the last time a manager -O’Neill-attempted to pay top dollar for players, in order to compete at the top level, the next manager-Strachan-had to implement a more cautious policy.
It appears that we are about to see a repeat.
Neil Lennon has been offered the manager’s job on a ful time basis.
Frankly, there is no one better for the position which does require a certain type of personality and strength.
He deserves another shot at it for coming in and keeping the ship on course when Rodgers ran away.
However, we were led to believe that he’d been offered the job weeks ago, but was holding out to ensure a sizable transfer budget.
Could the sudden post Cup final announcement from Peter Lawwell of offering the job to Lennon have been designed to put pressure on the Lurgan man to take the job ?
Without any guarantees ?
Although the cost cutting is not -at this point -majorly significant in itself, the signs are there that its about to be.
Celtic do have a huge wage bill.
Those new contracts handed out would have included significant signing on fees. Although Rodgers was arguably ambitious enough to try to keep and remunerate his top men accordingly, the simple fact is that Celtic cannot pay these sort of wages indefinitely.
The boom and bust cycle is not the best way to run a railroad.
One other claim that Marvin Comperr is the highest paid player at the club is frightening. Add to that the Boyata fiasco, where a £9m fee was turned down for the players services ahead of the final year pf his contract amounts to an awful lot f money that could have been still in the bank this morning.
Thats just two examples of quite a few where someone, perhaps the biggest shareholder, may have issued instructions to wind things down for a while.
We could speculate all day as to why such an instruction could have been made, though we’d no doubt conclude it was all down to shareholders dividends, which of course is the prime remit of any CEO.
If you don’t count institutional cheating from a governing body that cost the club potentially millions of pounds.
Oh, it hasn’t gone away. In fact, we hear of another shareholder who may be about to finance another attempt to gain justice.
Or maybe someone wants to hand over the reins, while the share price is good…which would explain the cost cutting in more simple terms…
But back at the ranch, the mood is quite low, despite a third consecutive domestic clean sweep.
One feels that those who have achieved this little bit of history are not feeling the love from their lords and masters in the boardroom…
Anyhoo, it’s Friday, and back in the day before my incarceration in Peterborough, a place named after a chap called Peter to compound my misery…and I think I know which one…we used to always do a thing called the Etims
Knob of the Week
Well, since we haven;t done one for a while, we’ll name two this week.
not because of what they’ve done, but because of what we hear they are in the process of doing, and because we think that it’s going to be quite damaging in the long run..
In fact, that can double as a caption competition…
I take it Lawwell’s over inflated salary will be the first to be reduced?
Or we could just get rid of him, there’s a £2m saving straight away.
Then we could return the disco lights if we still have the receipt.
No, that’s a red line issue.
Sell all the best players if we must but the disco lights stay.
Good God. You people are like sheep. NL taking the post without finding out his budget? What? Are you really telling me that PL/NL will allow 9 & 10 to slip away?
All this financial trimming and tidying suggests to me that we are being made to look like an attractive purchase/ investment prospect. Has DD decided he’s had enough and is looking to cash in with the Club being in a very strong fiscal position? If this is the case you can guarantee that Dermot has someone in mind already. Watch this space!
This is my fourth attempt to post this! With all the financial trimming and tidying that’s going on it looks to me as if we are trying to make the Club appear to be a very attractive purchase/investment proposition. Has DD had enough and wants to spend even more time on the golf course? You can guarantee that if this is the case, he has already got someone in mind. Watch this space!
And so it begins, ring, ring, why don’t you give me a call, as the transfer whispers light up the MSM. Marseille in for Ntcham, Celtic in for Mother Wells Scottish football writers young player of the year, David Turnbull (16 goals in 34 appearances) and Charlton’s Joe Aribo.
For me its encouraging that we are looking to strengthen the mid-field area, too many times we were pushed off the ball at the home of the bigots.
As for Mork and Mindy, well they are from another planet, their methodology completely different to ours, who could understand aliens.. its a mystery.
Good luck tomorrow young Andy Robertson we know that you are one of our own. Went fishing and he slipped of the line, but your strength of character prevailed after some set backs in your football career, you deserve nothing but praise. Andy Robertson, the one who got away.
Shit final two awful EPL sides
And yet Liverpool put out Barca and Spurs put out Ajax, you can only play what’s in front of you.
Caption: I told ye didn’t I, these suckers will buy into anything we sell them. Fist bumps and trebles all round!
Caption: Right again 1 2 3 rock paper scissors go.
Jimmybee,
Never understood that game & still have no idea what to do when playing it with my wee one 🙂
Dunno when I last saw two such smug self-satisfied arseholes. Yet when anyone criticises them,we get told…
Look at how many titles we’ve won with them!
Aye,and look at how many more we would have won if they had been any good at their stuff.
I know what I’d like to say here about them,similar to what I say in the pub,but out of respect to our genial host I will refrain.
So there’s yer Caption Competion,lads and lasses!
Mick,
Respect for our host?
We aren’t having none of that on here 🙂
Caption:
DD: What can we do to piss them off the most?
PL: Oh oh, I’ve got an idea…..
Alternative caption:
“Coupla cunts!!”
If Mike Ashley was to come in, does that mean we would own the retail arm of the Huns? 🙂
I would PMSFL
Our club is being run in the correct manner. For Celtic to make it into the top 30 in Europe is a remarkable achievement given the financial restraints we have in this country through tv and sponsorship deals available.
So our financial situation is great it was achieved not only by prudence in the boardroom but what Brendan Rodgers brought to the table. Our top decks of the stadium were empty Brendan filled them up. Job done.
Maybe Dermot now sees this as the ideal oppertunity to walk away with a tidy sum as the way sevco are going and Ashley still to get his money maybe they won’t be around long enough to mount any challenge.
But we must buy players ready for the fight. Champions league will not be possible with this current group they need help.
New signings excite the fans and brings a freshness to the squad we need a fresh injection or we could lose those top decks again if the club shows a lack of ambition.HH Harry Hood.
Rock breaks scissors. Paper covers rock. Scissors cut paper.
Monti,don’t worry. People cheat at this game. If you see my fingers going into a fist (rock) then you quickly shift to paper and win! The reason you are no good at it is because you are not a Hun and it is the Huns who cheat.
You are an honest Fenian!
Imagine this, around ten months ago…
Rodgers: I need to sign new players.
Lawwell: You signed Edouard.
Rodgers: He was here already, we need new players to freshen up the squad, we looked a bit stale the last few months.
Lawwell: No
Rodgers: But I’ve won a double treble, surely I deserve to be supported by the you and the rest of the board?
Lawwell: No.
Rodgers: But we’ve got £50m in the bank, we need to spend to ensure success.
Lawwell: No.
Rodgers: If your going to spend money on disco lights than surely you could spend some on new players?
Lawwell: No
Rodgers: Give me money for new players or, after the European campaign, I will take the next available EPL job.
Lawwell: Bye.
I’ve said it before and i’ll keep on saying it: Lawwell chases good managers away. I don’t blame Rodgers for leaving, though, the timing was despicable and I won’t blame Lennon if he knocks back the job.
Lennon is between a rock and a hard place, since he left, we’ve gone up a level, whilst he’s went down a level. To maintain the success we’ve been having is a big ask. To do so with little money to spend is massive.
The football has been garbage recently, we really need to freshen up the squad or we might have to deploy the Deila Duvet to cover the empty top tier.
We need a manager that can break records but without spending money as the board will give him a pittance. I don’t know if Lennon could do that, I don’t know if he’d want to risk his reputation attempting to do so.
I know our wage bill is too high but that, in part, is down to us having a 30+ man first team squad last season, though the seasons only been done for less than a week and we’ve already lost Allan, Boyata, De Vries, Gamboa and Izzy.
Lawwell’s bonus should be changed from a percentage of profit to a percentage of prize money.
Caption: “Boss, Brendan Rodgers keeps sending me stories about John McGinn for some inexplicable reason”
Doc,
Brendan was right to go if he wasn’t being backed, it’s WHEN he went.
Lawwell has a lot to answer for!
What DOC and MONTI said.
We have gone up ? Under Lennon we beat a very good brace, now we could not beat their womans side
I think we have, when Lennon was here, for four seasons, we won three leagues and two cups and set a high standard. Now the ‘high’ standard is even higher, like winning a treble. In my opinion, that’s going up a level.
Monti ,
also think there was more to the “WHEN ” than we got to hear ; not sure ” everyone ” was taken by surprise !
Pl people did a very professional smear job on Rodgers .
I do believe though that BR ” downed tools ” around Athens games and that’s the only gripe I’d have with him re the whole fiasco .
Was his exit being “engineered ” by others from the moment that season ended?
Re the current situation , surely I can’t be the only one getting a sickening feeling somethings coming down the pike regarding the club .
God knows what , but my gut’s telling me it aint anything good .
Dare say we’ll find out soon enough .
Doc, brilliant post, no arguments at all.
I think some of our play has been dire too, but that’s not NFL’s fault, he was just trying to succeed with the Treble-Treble and 8-in-a-row, which he did. The result justified the means and some of our dire football was played whilst Brendan was with us. We’ve lost an irreplaceable LB in KT for most of Lenny’s tenure and also Ryan Christie. Tom Rogic hasn’t been anything near his best since December so we’ve not been firing on all cylinders with good reason.
BTW, Boyata hasn’t been missed one iota, as some of us expected he wouldn’t. Big Kris is a very good footballer but NOT a CB although he’s done very well. Jozo is showing his ability but can he be trusted? WE NEED at least one classy CB, a RB and cover for KT and we don’t have much time to sort it before the new season begins.
The lowest common denominator is and has always been the hugely over-paid, self-appointed Director of Football and it’s THAT position of Lawwell’s that has been and is our biggest weakness as a Team/Club Like No Other.
We haven’t done well because of him: we’ve done it in spite of him. Lawwell’s just a bean-counting ‘businessman’ whose parsimony has cost us in Europe and yet he picks up ever-increasing cash from our Club. Get him TF out of it and he can take his lights, hotel, museum and major shareholder leech along with him.
HH
We need another centre back that can play on astroturf.
Imagine all those managers you mentioned (except Deila) were supported throughout their tenures and brought in the type of quality players you mentioned every single transfer window, not just the first few.
Treble Treble?
Its not so much about overall spend, but about consistent support. Lawwell’s support of successful managers is like the fans support of Deila: starts well but wanes to a fragment.
I believe the hold up is over in Kamchatka, so if you can trot on over and sort it out that’ll be grand.
Charlie S, I have huge admiration for the way you deal with things (personal put-downs et cetera) on here.
For the clowns whom try to call you out for being an EX-soldier, they’re, er dum-dums, FN pointless.
IMHO, your assessments of all things Celtic, from the Team to the Board, are ALWAYS relevant, sometimes inspiring and never condescending nor silly.
IMO, you’re a top Celt and tho’ you don’t need it spoken loudly, YOU’RE A TOP CELT.
I hope to speak, tete-a-tete with you one day, as I do with quite a few long-term eTims.
I once, briefly, met our orchestrator, and that was all good…..I see no reason why that wouldn’t be the case with you and lots of others on here.
It (the eTims site) may have had its problems of late, but it’s still far and away the TOP Celtic Supporters site, bar none.
Hail! Hail! one and all. (even the ‘yankee’ tory) 🙂
HH
Our financial figures are fine, with record turnover and profits and a wage ratio considered very good by all serious analysts.
The only reason to want to reduce this, is if you’re expecting turnover to take a tanking, which will eliminate profit, leading to further cutbacks etc.
We’ve all seen this movie plenty of times before.
Of course it could all be a ruse; threaten austerity and then when we make pitifully inadequate investments, we’re all grateful.
In the top thirty richest clubs, Juke Box Jury. “I’le give it five and I’le buy it. Hotels and museums don’t come cheap. All the rhetoric of the past “for every pound we receive we will reinvest it in the team” is just dribbling pish. We talk about Castagne, then hear of Izzy being offered a one year extension. We are the dreamers, they do us up like kippers every year. “Tighten your belt” meaning “to spend less money than before, because you have less money” and yet that is not the case, in fact we have never been in a stronger financial position. Their faces will be tripping them when we fail to qualify for the C.L. Lenny will get the blame and yet the real culprits will stay stume..
Caption, Hi Peter just got myself one of those driveways, don’t be spending any of the money these things aren’t cheap to heat!
THE CHA
Pitifully inadequate investments will soon be the days of wine and roses.
Cost cutting yes, but only on squad, backroom and Manager wages. Currently we have about 8/10 of our squad who are on high wages but no where near first team, this is where the cost cutting is coming from. We can still improve the squad significantly by strengthening the areas we all know require strengthening whilst still reducing the wage bill. We are Treble Treble winners lets enjoy this time which is close to as good as it gets. Lenny has gained valuable experience since his first shot at management and that wasn’t all that bad. HH
Unusually sensible post – well said
Caption: Peter I’ve made enquiries and no one has heard of either Sheik Ma Boaby or the Al Bootyerbaws Yafani royal family – are you sure this bid’s no a wind up?
Neil Lennon’s passion & love for Celtic are beyond question. I think he would be an excellent number 2 he needs someone older wiser and more experienced to take him to the next level which given time he may well achieve. We have all been mentored at some stage of our lives. This decision to me just smacks of laziness one of those “he will do” decisions and then back to checking the lid on the biscuit tin.I will back him and give my full support as always but by fuck it shows that any success beyond these shores isn’t even in the same room as the table let alone being on it.
Opinion of Brendan in Europe. Take his fucking passport off him or hide it at appropriate times.
HI Charile I do acknowledge what Neil did previously & I wasn’t directly comparing him to Brendan.I am looking more for sustainable long term becoming a regular feature beyond the round of 16.Agreed with 280 mill I could probably have a decent whack at it.Anyway onwards an upwards as they say.
Could the Sevco fans be proved right? Those who have been claiming for a long time now that Celtic`s millions might disappear overnight owing to the child abuse claims, especially when Man. City is handing out money like confetti to anyone who makes a claim.
Sevco fans are never right about anything
They have yet to be right about anything except being far right
Cole
Tell me how did you feel when your old club died?
Cole Burns….so does Thatcher
🙂
Wishful thinking Cole – sorry to say that won’t happen. You could contact the daftie that used to be on here who told us Celtics millions were already missing! You should go back to follow follow and cook up some new conspiracy theories about how to beat Celtic outside actually fielding a football team
More speculation and more anti Board nonsense with no real facts to support it. It’s likes Trump talking about Mexicans! As much as we may want to disbelieve it Rogers went because it was always his plan to go. Nothing to do with Lawwell or DD and more to do with his ego and money. That is a fact. We have no idea what money will be available for NFL. There is certainly a lot if wage money to clear out with highly paid players who don’t even make it to the bench. Plenty of money there to redirect to fewer new players. There is good money in the bank too. Let’s see before we pass judgement before an arrest is made.
A prediction for our summer transfer activity- Forrest n n’tcham sold circa £20 million in, no more than £2 spent by us on any one player, our top outlay £8m. Peter is saving for his hotel don’t u know.
JB
Forget about the Sevco fans then. What about Dornan telling Lawwell that the victims should be compensated? If they do agree/have to pay out how far would Celtic`s millions go then, especially when the COS, ALLEGEDLY, recently paid out £i million pounds to one victim?
It wouldn`t need many claims for Celtic to go bankrupt so there`s no doubt that this will be a major worry for Lawwell at the present time.
CCS
One comment and I am overly concerned. It`s not me that`s overly concerned but you can be sure Lawwwell and Desmond will be. My concerns are related to my own personal life. I support Celtic but I still have to go to work on a Monday morning whether Celtic win lose or draw. Their problems are like water off a duck`s arse to me. Of course, the same old deflective answer suggesting I`m a Hun comes into play.
Just sweep it under the carpet, eh?
Your on hear talking shit! No CELTIC FAN WOULD BE TALKING THIS BS!! SO DO ONE CLOWN SHOE!! OUR GREAT CLUB WAS BORN OUT OF UNITY, SOLIDARITY , CHARITY AND LOVE A TRUE WORLD LOVED ICONIC CLUB!THE ONLY ONE IN “BRIGADOON” SCOTLAND NOW OFF TO THE “PERMA RAGE”! POISON YOU AND YOUR DEAD CLUB MEAN NOTHING TO US
OH HERE OPPOSED TO “HEAR” HAIL HAIL GREAT BEING A TIM AND SUPPORTING AND LIVING OUR LIVES AROUND THIS AMAZING CLUB OF OURS
Cole Burns,
How much did your club pay out for the Gordon Neely victims?
Or how much did the cheated vendors and teams dealing and playing against original rangers get paid back? That was a criminal enterprise have the victims been compensated?
Cole,
Awfy quiet son….sweep sweep
Monti, you’re the type that would condemn the Catholic Church for covering up abuse and pretend it never happened at Celtic.
I only suggested that Lawwell may well be concerned about claims against Celtic since these people are not going to go away, especially
when Man City and others like them are going to pay out to, it seems, anyone who makes a claim. It certainly won’t help when people like Dornan and Patrick Maguire get a bit of encouragement.
By the way I object strongly to your insinuations. Of course, that’s a real sign of someone having run out of steam. You certainly, I repeat, certainly wouldn’t say it to my face.
HEY I CERTAINLY AINT YOUR “MATE” YOUR NOT MY TYPE A GUY I KNOW YOUR ILK C.S AND NO “PERMA RAGE”! I LEAVE THAT TO THE POISONOUS HUNS! I JUST LIKE TO GET MY POINT OUT THERE AND USE CAPS OK, NOT THAT I NEED TO JUSTIFY TO THE LIKES OF YOU
ITS HARD SEEING AS YOU TRY IN BE THE CENTRE OF MY GREAT CLUB ON HERE WHILE DOING NOTHING RELATIVE FOR CELTIC BUT TALK YOUR TRIPE!OH IN YOUR THE ONE THAT CRAVES ATTENTION PLAINLY OBVIOUS TO SEE
“THE COMPANY YOU KEEP” HA HA THAT MUST BE A GREAT NIGHT OUT HA HA TAKE CARE I REALLY HOPE YOUR OK I DONT ARGUE WITH FELLOW TIMS ITS YOU THAT BROUGHT THE “FANNY” COMMENT TO THE TABLE
http://celticbynumberscom.ipage.com/austerity-or-more-of-the-same/
There is chatter of austerity at Celtic Park. But Celtic’s transfer model has been pretty consistent since Lennon first took charge in 2010. A look at the post O’Neill era in terms of transfer trading.
Whoops pesky facts getting in the way of a good rant!
So we win 3 trebles in a row and some are still moaning ffs. It won’t and can’t last forever beware of wishing an early decline in us. Everyone bar Rodgers wants 10 in a row but the irony of complaining “we don’t spend enough” in the same paragraph as “we spent too much” is lost on Ralph. Signing players is an art not a science for every Virgil there is a Compter. Please let enjoy these good times there have been enough or the
other. I hope there is an enquiry into the child abuse, somebody somewhere turned a blind eye, the Conti syndrome
BJF
You talk about the Conti syndrome. What about the BBC syndrome or the David Steel syndrome? Surely those closest to the abused should have noticed that there was something queer (if you’ll excuse the pun) going on with their child spending so much time with a dicey looking character like Torbet, especially when it went on for years. Even if you had noticed it in passing you would be suspicious.
As my wife often remarks, there must have been plenty of evidence when the abused’s underwear was being washed. So how did they get away with it for so long and how did they get access to the children for years?
There’s a lot of questions that everyone seems afraid to ask (even in the legal system) in case they are accused of condoning it.
Personally, if any man had touched me when I was around twelve years of age
he would have walked around for the rest of his days with his scrotum in a wheelbarrow.
Caption: Fist bump!
Why don’t you tell us exactly how much the Plc take out in salaries and bonuses? Been paying themselves handsomely for too long,they have lost countless millions on absolute dumplings and people not fit to wear the jersey.Only interested in boosting their bank accounts and keeping us on a par with Scotland’s supercheaters
So if you find out how much people are paid, if they are paid anything I din’t know, so what? What are you goingto do about it? I had a pal on the Board of a Second Division club, he got a few free whiskies for going tp Forfar and Berwick, put a lot into it very little out of it.
we’d no doubt conclude it was all down to shareholders dividends
I believe, I could be wrong, that ordinary shareholders at least do not receive a dividend from Celtic shares, that is retained to be ploughed back into the club.
Dermot and Peter may have A class preferential shares but I doubt they are making much from a dividend in reality. Other ways sure but not from operational profiteering.
Ordinary shareholders do not receive a dividend. I read somewhere that Dermot’s remuneration was £25K. Today the share price is at 165p.
Not far from its high of 168.50p. It would drop like a stone if their was any sign of Dermot leaving. I thought that when B.R. left the share price would have dropped by a bigger margin, it did not.
Dermot is still recorded as the biggest single share holder @ 34.9%
Lindsell Train Ltd. still in second place with 17.4%.
Lawwell is by far the biggest income earner, heated driveways don’t come cheap. Never in our clubs history has Celtic been in a stronger financial position. But this is the twilight season, that blank space between last season and the new one, we fiddle away.
The Celtic share price is affected by the Champion’s League participation. That became obvious when investors cottoned on to the fact that with no Huns to compete with, the Celtic share price rose markedly. For any investor, obviously the share price is critical, so why would you invest in a club that was not progressive. By not investing in better players you put that participation in the C.L. in peril. It is a guaranteed income source, if we fail to qualify we at least drop into the Europa’s. That is why the follow followers have become the borrow borrowers, to try to gain entry to the C.L. 2011/12 being an example at showing how desperate they were/are to get in. I cannot fathom why we would not invest in new better players, it is not a calculated risk, more of an educated bet…
Your post makes no sense.
The share price IS affected by C.L. participation, it rose markedly when investors cottoned onto the fact that Celtic had a clear pathway into the C.L. when the Huns died. “By NOT investing in new players, you put that participation in the C.L. in peril”. Read my post again…
Mike, Desmond’s “remuneration”, £25k, is as a (absent mostly)
Director of Celtic PLC.
Dividends, in DD’s case about 20 x £25k or more now perhaps)
are NOT remuneration, i.e. for doing a job, they are only for owning shares, in at least his case an (IMHO) unfair share type.
Us Celtic SUPPORTERS, or supporter shareholders, as opposed to leeches like Lawwell and Desmond), have the Power to Change.
It’s just so difficult to get us (supporters) to agree on a strategy…….but if/when we do, we wont concentrate on clearing out the player cost-base, we’ll clear-out the leeches first-of-all.
We’re an extremely viable football club/company, but us SUPPORTERS are being denied their rightful position.
Unity can resolve this.
HH FC not PLC.
Desi, you’re correct about ordinary shareholders NOT receving dividends, at least I certainly don’t. Whether or not Lawwell holds a dividend-paying share type, like Desmond does, I don’t know.
I had a look at this a few years ago and I’m pretty certain that Desmond’s share type DOES receive dividends and he was due to get around £500,000 in dividends at the time, around 2016. Why it’s possible to issue various types of share, in my view, is another case for Companie FN House (on top of the shenanigans south of the Clyde) to answer.
HH
http://www.celticfc.net/pages/corporate_sharecapital
Thanks BroxburnBhoy, and your point is?
HH
I am pretty sure Celtic will have no legally binding link
to Celtic Boys club. Whether there is a moral one is due is a different matter.Abuse in Church premises by an employee of the Church( that what priests are these days) is a different matter. The Little Sisters of Nazerath will have liability. The culture of secrecy and obedience which were once pillars of Catholicism has cone back to haunt the Church and its offsets hugely. There are other institutions that will have their time too.
BJF
How can the Church be responsible and not Celtic? What has the premises got to do with it? If someone commits the crime of shoplifting in Tescos does that make Tesco responsible for that person’s actions. There’s nothing like twisting things to fit nicely into your opinion.
I can assure you very few employers would be willing to take the blame for any crime committed by its employees even if it was carried out in their CEO’s office.
As a shareholder with Fergus’s original offer I receive a divident annually. It used to be about £15 pa I have opted ti invest the money back in the club for additional shares. I must have a lot Dermot phones me before he makes a decision!
BJF,
When i was a kid learning about Celtic, my belief rightly or wrongly was that the boys club Was a part of Celtic football club, it was my understanding, again rightly or wrongly, that the boys club was the first step to securing ‘s’ forms with Celtic.
I spoke with someone at STV today to register my disgust at this narrative that Celtic accept responsibility & pay compensation to the victims.
The lady i spoke to said the following ” Celtic should prove that they are a seperate entity “.
Let me be clear on this issue, if the boys club was a part of Celtic, then we ARE responsible & compensate these victims accordingly.
If we are not, the clubs lawyers need to stop this mounting vendetta on our clubs name.
Monti, well done for at least trying. Your effort puts our Club (sorry, our Board) to shame as it’s really the Board that should challenge this head on and sue TF out of anyone guilty of libel/slander here.
I’ve had ‘go’s’ at the BBC but it’s never easy to nail them without the resources that our Club could sneer at. However, I’ll NOT be renewing my licence and will explain precisely why, in regards to the continued assaults on our Club and the continuing myth of the same club across the Clyde.
HH FC not PLC.
TicToc,
Appreciated comrade, as for a BBC TV licence….what’s that? 🙂
Never had one in my life.
Monti, for a long time now, any doubt I’d ever felt about you has been smashed to bits by your unerring and consistent support of our players and management (Deila apart, and you were right), and your calling out of Lawwell.
That’s a really nice thing to know.
Hope they’re hangin’ well big fella.
BTW I’ve no clue about “Rock, Paper Scissors”, but I’ve a clue about this. We had the wee mhan overnight last night, and them ‘wee people’ bring a kinda magic otherwise inaccessible. We’re out in the back garden earlier playing football. Sam’s Celtic, my wife’s Barca and I’m in goal, Scott Bain. Great fun. Sam’s scoring okay. The wee mhan loves Messi but turns to me, “Grandad, who’s Celtic’s best striker?” I say Leigh Griffiths.
He becomes ‘Leigh’ and immediately bangs 4 stunning goals past Barca in a minute or so. (Scott Bain gets 2 more) What a FN mauling ‘this’ Celtic gave Barca….and that’s no BS, I can testify, “Ah Wiz Rerr!”
HH
TicToc,
God bless your family, mind n tell wee Sam, if it’s a blue shirt he’s up against, he’s to tackle a wee bit harder than normal. 🙂
Cheers Monti, ah’ll nip up an’ tell “Barca” ghirl who’s hit the hay early. Mind you she’s been up since 5.00AM when the wee mhan 1st surfaced this morning and then she got ‘humiliated’ in the ‘gerden’ by the ‘Celtic’. Great times, Pal.
We (THE Celtic) have just created history with the Treble-Treble, we’re “on the one road” tae a 2nd 9-in-a-row, soon to be surpassed by yet another record, The Ten. WOW. This is what it means to be Celtic. By goodness we’re lucky.
I’m atheist as you know, but if thoughts are forces, as many think, your family may just get a wee ‘lift’ from somewhere or other: I wish you and yours All The Best.
See, just being a Tim, mibbaes we should all just be grateful for being Tims; it’s ‘blessing’ enough for this one.
HH
PS Wee Sam is progressing really well with the ball at his feet, he’s looking like a Christie/Griffiths but he KNOWS how to ‘defend’ too; he hasn’t hospitalised me yet but if I keep takin’ the piss out of him that’ll come soon. Blue shirt? Gott in himmel, they’ll become extinct if Sam’s got anything to do with it! 🙂
Moderator, can you somehow desist from plucking most posts into no-man’s-land?
ETims is becoming a very pale comparison of its former self.
I’ll say thanks in advance but have little faith that this will be merited.
HH
Two transfer window buggered up by the wise PL, surely he will not make it a treble
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No one has caught us out yet
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Dermot those guys at polo mints were total geniuses putting a hole in the mint.
Why Peter? Because they charge more than Trebor
for a packet,for only half a mint.
Jesus Peter they must be minted!!
Una,
I do like a sweet hole 🙂
Hmmmmm, Weered, that’s mibbaes a matter ae opinion!
HH (Heavenly Holes?) 🙂
FFS, bring back the Celtic and The Reds, without their guidance I can see where this is leading….. 🙂
Schlurp!
Wot? My “Schlurper” will?
Wot if it already has? (gone into a black hole)
Can it/me be redeemed?
I used to get dragged down to Our Holy Redeemers in Clydebank.
Does that not guarantee ‘redemption’?
Oh, what’s to become of me, my ‘schlurper’ and holes, black or otherwise?
It’s not MY fault anyway. Ask Monti. He’ll stand by me until I get a grasp on that pesky alphabet thingy. 🙂
HH, HH (Holy of Holies, Hole of Holes)
SCHLURP! 🙂
Caption: well whatever it is, it’ll be our fault again. Yup another double Desmond – make mine a treble Peter!
I suspect that the board have good intelligence that the Ibrox side are going to be penniless (if they survive at all) so therefore don’t feel there’s any great need to spend in order to secure 9 and 10. I had the same feeling a few years ago when we were on the verge of great things with star signings rumoured but then the huns lost (Sweden? Lithuania? Can’t remember exactly). There were no signings of any note (maybe none at all?) and suddenly everything was flat – the air and life sucked out of the season before it had even begun. I get the exact same feeling now.
Sorry SM but “I suspect that the board have good intelligence….”. FFS?
Feral cunning, I’ll grant you but “good intelligence”?
FFS, the good intelligence to cost us CL group/knock-out money?
They’re arseholes, overpaid, tory fcuking arseholes.
HH (and I understand where you were going, but that part-line was too much to ignore. 🙂
HH
Your deluded he wouldnt have took it? Utter BS!! Where else could he go!! the dole get real man. ITS A BACKWARD STEP BUT WE LOVE THE CLUB SO WE BACK HIM! ALSO I DONT BELIEVE FOR A SECOND HE WAS A CELTIC FAN GROWING UP NO WAY HE MAY HAVE LIKED US BUT NO MORE IRONICALLY I THINK THE LAST MANGER WAS!! HE REALLY KNEW GAMES AND TIMES OF OUR GREAT CLUB! OPPOSED TO LENNONS “THE 90S” BS COMMENT! THE DIFFERENCE IS RODGERS WAS A SOUGHT AFTER MAN! LENNON LUCKIEST MAN ALIVE TO GET THIS JOB AS HE ALSO WALKED AWAY “BORED”! HE SHOULD NEVER BEEN BACK NEAR OUR GREAT CLUB AS MANAGER! NEVER!
Stessano,
PISH
WHAT IS MONTI?
I STOOD BY NEIL LENNON AND STOOD UP FOR HIM AGAINST THAT UTTER POISONOUS SCUM OF “BRIGADOON”SCOTLAND EVEN FROM SYDNEY IN 2011 AT THE HEIGHT OF THEIR COWARDICE BILE!AND TOLD EVERYONE AND EDUCATED THEM ABOUT THESE VILE CREATURES BUT THE POINT WAS I WANT THE BEST MOST AMBITIOUS APPOINTMENT LIKE MOST DO FOR OUR GREAT ICONIC WORLD CLUB
FOR SOME REASON MY REPLYING TO THAT CLOWN C.S IS BEING BLOCKED TRUST ME HE WOULD NEVER CALL ME A F@@@@y TO MY FACE NOT IN A MILLION YEARS!
Me talking “PISH” NO SIR THATS YOUR JOB! ON HERE AND EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK AT THAT!! PLUS YOU DONT EVEN GO TO THE GAMES AS I RECALL SO SHUT THE F@@k UP!! I LOVE THE CLUB AS DOES ALL MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS YOU CLOWN SHOE SEEM TO USE MY GREAT CLUB AS AN EXCUSE TO TALK YOUR “PISH”! AND NEIL SHOULD NOT BE THE CELTIC MANAGER AND EVERYONE KNOWS ITS A DOWN GRADE AND ITS NOT PERSONAL I MET THE GUY ON MANY SOCIAL SITUATIONS AND ON 2 DIFFERENT CONTINENTS BUT THIS IS A LAZY CONVENIENT APPOINTMENT (WELL FOR PETER) OH AND MONTI HAD YOU PEGGED LONG AGO!THATS FOR SURE HAIL HAIL FELLOW REAL CELTS!! YOUR CERTAINLY NOT ONE!
HEY I JUST READ THAT “PISH” IN LET ME TELL YOU CLOWN SHOE! YOU NEVER CALL ME A “FANNY” TO MY FACE BELIEVE THAT THIS ISNT PERSONAL ABOUT NEIL LENNON OK! I WAS TOTALLY BEHIND THE GUY AGAINST ANY SCUM BAGS IN “BRIGADOON” WITH THEIR HATE! I LIVED IN SYDNEY AT THE HEIGHT OF THAT SHIT AND SORTED ANY CRETIN HUN OUT THAT TRIED TO JUSTIFY ! I MET NEIL IN SYDNEY IN 2012 AND VEGAS 2004 AS WELL AS IN GLASGOW FEW TIMES ON NIGHTS OUT IN EARLY 2000S! I JUST WANT THE BEST FOR MY CLUB! BUT DONT YOU COME ON HERE I CALL ME ANYTHING!! I MEET YOU ANYTIME ANY PLACE AND WE SEE HOW YOU REACT TRUST ME YOU WONT BE CALLING ME ANYTHING LIKE YOU JUST DID ON HERE! PATHETIC REALLY IS AND I MAN OF YOUR OBVIOUS AGE AT THAT PATHETIC!
OH AND I JUST SAW THAT “FANNY”! COMMENT TRUST ME YOU NEVER SAY THAT TO ME IN A MILLION YEARS FACE TO FACE NOT A CHANCE!
HA HA JUST KNEW YOU BE THE TYPE TO SPEAK IN THE THIRD PERSON “oh but he would” AYE I BET YOU WOULDNT NOT IN THE WAY YOU HAVE HERE BUT LETS PUT IT TO THE TEST. OH IN THE 1 PERCENT BS YEAH AS LIKE ME MILLIONS OF US LIVE OR LIVED AWAY FOR LONG PERIODS. WEE FERGUS HAD NO TIME FOR YOUR ILK! NEVER GIVE THE CLUB REAL SUPPORT BUT USE IT EH FOR YOUR “PISH” TALK ON HERE! BIG MONTI SUSSED YOU LONG AGO!1 HA HA
Doesn’t seem as popular as the last appointment!where is the throngs of exited Celtic supporters greeting the new manager?seems like organised chaos from Desmond and his little helpers.Lennon is a legend but Celtic deserve the best and the supporters are the ones that are the backbone of all the financial gains our club now have and the Plc should have gotten the best coaches possible not move backwards
I do not see this as a step backward at all. Depends what NFL does and how much the club back him. One thing I’m sure about is that we will continue to dominate the domestic football scene. If NFL and the team qualify for CL group stages that will be a step forward!
Tully,
Who is this ” the best “? Pish.
Neil Francis Lennon is a legend & he will smite the hun to eternal damnation….also known as 10 in a row!
Aye,twinkle,twinkle little star Pedro.
Manicure and check thy pacemakers.
Bringin` back the fun.
Even the Pope Franny had an interview.
It`s to be there and better half-a-World-that way!
enjoy…they`ve upped the price.
Would like to have Desimond & Ralphs thoughts on the boys club stuff, guys can we have a thread on that subject please.
A mature thread with the victims feelings at the forefront of any discussion.
I want to hear if others feel the boys club was part of Celtic.
I believe it was, i may be wrong.
Monti
It was the CELTIC BOYS’ CLUB. Surely it is self explanatory. Maybe though it referred to Blantyre Celtic They certainly didn’t belong to Partick Thistle or Kilmarnock.
Celtic could always claim that it was Keltic Boys’ Club. That should get them off the hook.
Cole,
Have you lost a disc playing connect 4?
Monti, whether or not Celtic Boys Club is/was part of Celtic FC/PLC in NOT a matter of opinion. It is a matter of Law in this case and the Law will be clear to both those whom would savage our Club and those who would protect it.
IMHO it is therefore ESSENTIAL to clarify this point.
Any right-thinking person would ALWAYS look to the victim(s) here and protect them, and try to ensure that they suffer no more. With vigour, any perpetrator of crimes against children should be hunted down, exposed and dealt with in a manner which may both help the victim and terrify any other potential abuser of children.
NO CLUB/POINT SCORING HERE. Just Truth, Exposition and Punishment.
Any forms of help for victims (financial or otherwise) can then be addressed here and hopefully help those poor victims to recover and enjoy the rest of their lives. Sadly, some may have already gone, perhaps by their own hand. How does one compensate here?
It’s important to mention here too that whilst the SMSM perennially try to disparage our Club, they wont touch the horrors of Dunblane; the TRUTH of the massacre of children, some of whom had been abused and may be getting old enough to name names. This is NOT about deflection from Celtic Boys Club,or anything else, it’s about the wide-rangeing scum who hurt children. From the MSM (BBC) to politics, Cyril Smith et al. But inspection of Dunblane would be a proper way to try to expose ALL of this. Ex so-called Labour leaders may wish to see this ‘go away’. It’s difficult to comprehend how the ‘Minister’s Son’ and his boss of the time, the reprehensible Bliar, didn’t cover things up in the fashion of the ‘brotherhood’ of scum.
Scum does what scum is and by golly, they’re scum.
RIP those poor children. I’ve had enough, I think I shall be sick……but more sick shall I be if that fucking scum escape punishment. Where water exists, as it does everywhere, there can be Narrow Water….the method can be irrelevant, the criminals can never be so. Nor allowed to be so.
All victims of abuse deserve praise and justice for their bravery in bringing to shame the perpetrators of such hideous crimes.
Having had a friend of mine at Celtic boys club during the early 70s he said the club wasnt that interested in them and only leant the name.
But with lending your name comes responsibility it should be the clubs responsibility to have a full and thorough investigation to who ran the boys club their roles and identify the perpatrators of such hideous crimes without fear or favour. Our club should in my opinion be open to all who come forward in need of help in whatever way our club can achieve this.
Jimmybee,
Thanks for responding m8, we need to get this sorted, it has to bring closure for the victims.
I want Celtic to deal with this in a thorough & professional manner, let’s show our class in this.
Let us embrace the truth, the facts & move forward.
I read that the club is to break its silence within the next 24 hours, it said that they have been conducting internal enquiries over the last two years, including their legal team, to get to the truth.
Over the allegations into historical sex abuse.
Mike,
This is welcome, what’s your own thoughts on the boys club m8?
Celtic vice chairman Kevin Kelly was also president of Celtic Boys Club. He was also an employee of Torbett. There’s the link, a separate entity? It is said that it will be published on Sunday, Why? It is said that they couldn’t publish anything because of the trials… I believe that they are being questioned by Mason MSP SNP and Tomkins MSP FUD.
Dornan not Mason.
Boys Club definitely associated with the club. Kit, blazers etc identical at the time. Matches often played at Barrowfield. Boys Club events packed with ex players. Celtic even released an LP of Celtic songs sung by the Boys Club (cringey tho it was). Frank Cairney often pictured with Celtic management at the time. Not sure if that makes the Club financially liable for compensation but we do ourselves no favours by hiding behind the “corporate separation” Far better for us to acknowledge the horrific abuse and to offer to work with victims on rehabilitation and compensation as appropriate.
Macca,
Cheers m8, very interesting!
Macca, I tried to point out earlier, perhaps another comment-in-waiting, it’s ESSENTIAL for our Club to protect ITSELF here from an avalanche of claims, ASSUMING that we carry no blame, AS A CLUB.
Emotions rightly ride high here, but not as high as the scum SMSM will if they smell Celtic blood.
If Celtic FC/PLC is innocent it still must prepare for an onslaught from the scum media and prepare for the Club suing all/any libellous finger-pointing. If the Club carries some blame, it must prepare for that financially and then genuinely help any sufferers of child sexual abuse and ENSURE that any living ‘individual’ involved is exposed and then punished accordingly by the state; that state which lets all-sorts of scum, like SDM, away with corporate murder.
Anyway, let the Truth come out everywhere.
Us genuine Tims will take the right action, unlike the despicable scum south of the Clyde and all its stinking fcuking acolytes.
TicToc,
Exactly, well said!
Just been over to ‘ Sentinel Celts ‘, it’s a good blog with a lot of good posters.
It also has ‘ The lions roar’ aka Gringo/Buzzbomb, he’s still going on about me lol.
Apparently our 9 consecutive, treble treble trophy haul is a masonic conspiracy.
Jeez
I did one a while ago. Waiting to see how the club deals with it. We can disregard lawyers as they will always tell their clients they have a case
You did a Diary a while ago as well 🙂
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Dermot, look at me, you’re supposed to pout your whiskers when doing a selfie.
Caption: ” you know something Peter, we can look back & say, we paid all the creditors, we preserved our history “
Ha, but that wiz Fergus MaBunnet.
Them two fucks in the pic wid’ve let us die.
Lest you (or they) forget.
Desmond and Lawwell are no friends of ours.
Somebody can finish this, ah’m fcuked:
#Desmond had a Lawwell in the market place,
Saved the huns when they should’ve been banned,
Licked the arses of the fcuking SFA,
And sucked our money out, just as they had planned.
Oh huns are deid, huns are deid, but you prolong, oh, oh,
Oh huns are deid, that’s ma song.
Next…….
A fairly long, heart-felt post about the victims of sexual abuse, in response to Monti and others, has gone.
Moderator, how TF does one carry out ANY form of conversation with huge amounts being withdrawn/redacted?
Aw, sorry, I didn’t realise eTims had moved to a Westminster style discussion group.
Fuck my old boots, I just didn’t expect that here.
HH
I think Peter Lawell is sick. And not like Monti or myself. I mean really sick. The man is fighting something. Not sure exactly what it is maybe something affecting his throat. I’m pretty sure Lennon knows and understands that PL is trying to get the clubs ducks in a row for the next chief executive, should one be needed.
In any event, I think PL is sick, too.
Sick to his indulgent stomach and disregard for basic human rights.
So “sick” that his total income is over £3 Million but he wouldn’t give up 10% of that to give Celtic PLC staff a living wage? Aye, pal, PL’s sick a’right.
But NOT as FN sick as he’s regularly made me.
IMHO there’s nothing too bad for him.
FC not PLC
HH