The hysteria surrounding yesterdays 0-0 draw with Livingston, a difficult opponent at the best of times, has led to calls for the head of the manager, the players, the coaching staff, and the wee guy who works in the pie stall.
Lennon is not the man to take us forward, the players are substandard and the pies are cold in the middle.
Hard to believe we stand three or four games away from a third successive treble.
The problem is that Lennon can only lose here.
If he messes around with the style of play or the players who have largely won the last e=seven trophies, he will be condemned.
If he doesn’t, and the trophies elude us, he’ll be condemned.
If he does, and the trophies are secured, it seems to me that he’ll be thanked and then told he’s not the man to take us forward.
The football just isn’t entertaining enough. Or he’s picked the wrong players and failed to adapt when change is necessary during a game.
No one has credited him with taking us to the verge of a historical third treble despite the circumstances he has had to endure.
Players, like spurned lovers, will be wondering why Brendan Rodgers walked out on them for a bigger and better job with better players after telling them that they were all wonderful. that leads to doubt.
What we seem to forget is that the players and the management don’t live in a bubble.
They are well aware of the criticism, and its starting to show.
And it’s also worth remembering that when the trophies are within our grasp, nerves will kick in.
This season could have been a disater, but it hasn’t. And we have the right man in charge right now to take us over the line.
Bear in mind, this is a results busines, and those results are considered and evaluated when the silverware is handed out.
What we have to avoid is the howling and wailing that often eminates from the stands should anything not go to plan in next weeks Cup semi final.
Consider this, Lennon is a pragmatic manager, as he showed once or twice in Europe. He will be more concerned with winning than winning with style right now.
This isn’t his team, this is someone elses, and he has to carry them over the line.
Its worth looking at his position in a much wider context than simply how much fun it is to watch the football, which incidentally is just as entertaining now as it has been all season.
He knows some changes are needed, and the players know that there are changes needed, not necessarily in personnel, but in style and approach.
But the consensus is that its too late in the season to try anything new, and the risk is too great.
We’ve got this far and Lennon will be concerned only with keeping the ship on course, and lets be honest, thats what Lawwell will have asked him to do.
And its what he knows he has to do.
It’s perhaps just as well he is strong enough to withstand the criticism.
So lighten up.
As we said when he got the job, get behind him and the squad, and leave any moaning until after the season is done.
And count your blessings that the manager has the inner stregth required to put up with all the wailing and moaning that must be overwhelming from his when you look at it from his point of view.
Lennon wants whats best for the club, which, of course, cannot be said for the board.
The launch of the Res 12 website has widened the information to the general public, and wider football support.
Thats what we should spend our time moaning about, and leave the players in peace to give us something to cheer about.
Lawwell and his board have been negligent when it comes to looking after the interests of sharholders, and of they knew about the cheating all along, that becomes criminal negligence.
The media are doing enough deflection to hide that story, and by fuelling fans ire at the way Celtic are playing, which the last time I looked was a huge lead at the top of the table with just a few games to go, and a cup semi final to contest, they are perhaps trying to cause a wee bit of disruption among ourselves.
It’s not the first time, and with nine and then ten in a row to go for, it certainly won’t be the last.
Yes, there are one or two things to sort out on the pitch, but things aren’t flling apart yet.
Far from it, we just had a bad day at the office yesterday.
It happens.
But we can cope with it.
Agree Lennon right man for the job just now.
Bust can not must not better not get the job full time under Lennon we have not played 1 game that I can say well the boys were good today
Hibs away in the cup?
1st half dire, 2nd good and reverse for Huns and that’s it for non-dire football under Lennon.
Thr Cha,
A butterfly lives for just one day….” but what a day, what a day “.
🙂
Ralph,
In order to get right behind the players & the squad, would that include going to cup games?
You definitely shouldn’t and not having your scruples I’ll take your ticket.
🙂
BB,
So will all the other 30, 000 + Celtic fans at Hampden supporting Celtic, be clueless & idiotic as well?
Fuckwit!
Celtic winning & helping push us into another final!
That’s my motivation!
I see a coconut was thrown onto the pitch at Tynecastle yesterday?
Definitely some nut cases out there…..
Buzz bomb,
I take it by ” large ” you are referring to your mothers accurate reference.
Or what like?
Internet hardman.
” The real deal “?
Pussy baws more like.
….and those who occupy foreign shores!
Did ye aye
Did ye aye 🙂
Norman Bates?
Apparently a Rhino poacher was trampled on by an Elephant & eaten by a Lion lol.
Apparently the only thing left was a skull & a pair of trousers 🙂
Kruger National park.
I would pay to see that….quality.
I wonder if they were a 30..cough…waist?
🙂
Spot on m8
Hibs in the cup aye only for 1 half of the game
Ralph, I know you are right but… One other way of looking at it is that the players Lenny has are now fit, back from injury. They know where and how to play. How difficult is that? If Lenny is so pragmatic and results-driven, why couldn’t he figure out how to unlock Livvie yesterday? We are not home free yet and do not have the luxury of many more such results with only five matches left. We want our team to win and if possible, to win well. We can’t seem to score so does Lenny have any idea what to do about it?
Many of us are losing confidence ahead of the Aberdeen match because we are not moving the ball well and are not scoring. If Lenny or the bhoys are reading this I can only say, prove me wrong. Play like I know you can. Get us the treble and get us the title. Then, we can all take a deep breath and figure out what to do next…meanwhile, run riot!!!
Griffith’s is worth the sum total of f- all. It doesn’t take a genius to work- out that gambling is a mugs game . Any idiot could have a problem gambling but if he half a brain he will stop as he knows the bookies always lose . Griffith’s problems comes from excessive gambling which as with every other person builds up over time . It’s not like a drunk alcoholic who can become alcoholic after 1 drink . Griffith’s excessive gambling which has led to other personal problems have wiped out this season & has deprived us of approximately 20 goals , so I reckon he is worth nothing to us
DJ,
The evidence is out there that Griffiths does or indeed did, have a gambling issue.
French Eddie does not suit our current system in my opinion he needs to play off a striker in the Dembele mould where we will see the best of him I know it was a long time ago and it was only pre season but the two of them looked dynamite together. Unfortunately the Dembele’s of this world are out of our reach. But I do believe he would thrive playing off a striker who could hold the ball up and bring others into play. Cheers
Monti someone throwing a coconut at a football game was BOUNTY happen al get ma coat
Spud,
Keep it up m8, you have fellow posters eating out the palm of your hand.
Nurse
Weered,
You taking the Piz Buin?
I’d wear it m8
Quite an, err, hysterical diary.
Lets do some quick myth busting:
Lennon didn’t take over the stuttering team from 2018; he took over the 2019 one that was in brilliant form with 9 straight wins, score 26-1.
To go from that to 5 wins, 2 draws, score 9-2 with by and large dire performances isn’t keeping things the same, marking time etc; its falling off a cliff.
I understand those that simply wanted Lennon anointed are full of rage that that didn’t happen and, I suspect, deep down they know that based on the qualities that a Celtic manager should have, he doesn’t come near the mark.
The Cha,
While i agree with you that long term we need higher calibre than Neil Lennon, no one should have expected his arrival to be seamless.
Ralph is quite correct ( for once ) when he asks for unity.
He called our previous manager a “cunt” when he was still there and is often derogatory about our players that he doesn’t like eg Sinclair etc.
What’s been asked for is uncritical support for Neil Lennon and no one else and the only reason is to try to secure the long term gig.
That is a massive mistake and while I’ll support the team during games, outside of them, I’m not going to support a clearly not good enough manager.
Cha,
So we have 6 or 7 vital games left to go in the season & you ” won’t support ” the manager?
Really?
No, I support him for the final 7 games (see, I’ve more faith than you 😉 ) but will take issue with anyone trying to push him into the permanent manager’s post.
7 then 🙂
” Genuinly faithful through & through ” bit won’t go & support the team in a major semi final?
Mwahahhaha
I’ve already stated that our form in 2018 is irrelevant to the team he took over in 2019, as we’d had a reset and came out flying. That was the team he took over.
Gentlemen, whilst I bow to no-one in my admiration of Neil as a man I am totally opposed to his appointment on a permanent basis. Our football just now is turgid and pedestrian and simply not good enough, the simple act of putting Burke on the park should be enough to bar anyone from picking future Celtic teams . I accept that his will to win and passion for the club will drag us over the finishing line in the short term but as anyone who was there watching the games under Neil before will remember that over a season that is far from enough to keep the fan base happy.
Maryhillbhoy,
None of that matters a fucking jot at this time does it?
We have battles to be fought & won, we need to unify & push the bhoys over the line!
For fuck sake.
Month it matters in terms of the free exchange of ideas and opinions but we unify by going and supporting the team on the park NOT by refusing to indulge in honest critical thought with the best interest of Celtic at heart mate.
Fkn typos sorry Monti not monthly
Some might say i get regular monthly’s 🙂
Neil Lennon is doing his best, he will be trying to get the results that bring US success, that deserves our support.
If some on here & other Celtic forums can’t pull together for him & the cause in front of us….then they should fuck off!
Weered,
That may well be the case long term, but we have battles to win NOW, NOW is all that matters!
Ralph,
WELL SAID!
FFS, you’ll be touting Tierney to Everton next.
🙂
🙂
For once I (cough) agree with the Diarist, although I’m still seething about the lack of any caption’ comments. But the support can get a tad nervy, where our expectations are not realised. We like to be entertained, for some, a moan is entertainment and we are good, excellent at that. We are the Doctor Minge and the Dame Hackett of supporters. Our dear little sensibilities are like our nerves, tuned into highness. We like to bite our nails and send an endless supply of PISH into our breeks. The tension and the excitement grows more and more if we haven’t scored within five minutes. “Oh says Jimmy, biting at his fingernails, he’s pish and he’s shite, he should be nowhere near the team, as the poor young lad hirples doon the wing with a herniated groin. “I fuckin knew we widny win the day” says Hilda, fucksake its no even half time, says Madge. Well after all “We are the Celtic”.
Jeeso going for a treble, treble and it feels like your drunk uncle has pulled out his pockets and with his hand on his zip asked if anyone wants to see an elephant at a christening party. Have we a bad dose of entitlement-itis? Generations of faithful Tims would have been extatic with 1 trophy. Eye on the prize Bhoys and Ghirls. I hate it when people use an h like that. I’m off for some self-flagillation.
Ten days ago my brother had major surgery. Two days ago one of the internal stitches can loose and he required emergency surgery. He has a chest infection and is in poor shape.
My mother always annoyed me when, in situations like this, she would say there is always someone worse off than yourself. Well in my brother’s case it is true. Next to him in IC is a young man fighting for his life after being stabbed in the neck simply because he supported the wrong team according to the view of a barbarian. Further his team had the temerity to win and, according to some, that should not be celebrated. Shame, shame and shame.
I pray for my brother and I also pray for my other “brother” in the next bed.
Sometimes it is hard to understand why some creatures should be members of the human race.
Rebus
Rebus,
Good luck & a speedy recovery to your brother & our other Celtic family member.
I don’t understand how someone could stab another ?
It’s ridiculous!
HH
Nonsense
….and you say you have got to me? 😉
Well said Rebus.
Best wishes to both
First off Rebus I hope your brother pulls through OK. I wish the other guy a full recovery as well. They’ll both be in my prayers. However; I was talking to a relative of the guy who was stabbed earlier this evening in Maryhill and it appears his family don’t believe this attack was football related at all. They think they know who the assailant was and there is no hun connection here.
Stevie D,
Thank you for the info. I hope that the family get good news and that they find some measure of justice.
Rebus
Cheers mate. Reading between the lines of what was said last night – but don’t take this as gospel – it looks like this guy took advantage of a situation and took his chance at making it seem like a sectarian atrocity. The impression I got was that any hun link is tenuous. I hope your brother and this guy both make a full and speedy recovery.
I am Neil Lennon. Hh
Hope Rebus’s brother and the other lad both recover well. Ralph you argue rationally but I don’t know which way I swing because I don’t know who the other contenders are, it shouldn’t be a coronation. At the end of his last stint as manager I thought his team had tired and he had lost his mo jo. With a few notable exceptions 3 or 4 years are the most a manager can manage in terms of being fresh and motivating a team. We are lucky he was available and he has done a really good job under the circumstances, yesterday he shared our frustration at some of the continual cross field passing but for the players they have been playing in a very particular way for 3 years and Rodgers refused to vary, he was too rigid in his style but you still cannot argue with his results, Lenny wants the team to be more pragmatic but for the more established especially it is difficult. So full support for Lenny until the end of the season and then lets see what he has achieved and who might be available.
“Scottish Football Clubs had to adapt until The Rangers got back.”
Since everyone`s been raving on about Talksport.I thought i`ld have a listen.Stewart Weir just quoted this just minutes ago.
Holy moly.
If you let a dog go rabid,don`t complain when you have rabies.
Hit them where they`ve none Pedro.
Bury fans and The Rangers fans both awoke on Wednesday morning to see the astonishing news that Charles Green’s consortium had planned a takeover of the English League 1 club and take over their fixtures with immediately effect.
Theoretically, a takeover could take place and Bury could be renamed The Rangers and relocated to Ibrox. This would mean that the Capital One cup 1st round on 11th August could see Middlesbrough travelling north of the border to Scotland rather than across the Pennines to Greater Manchester.
Who threw a drupe?
How many coconuts were sold this weekend in Scotland?
Aye,we`re to blame bampots!
Bury, aye that term is appropriate to Agent Green.
Yeah ok short notice everything going to plan. Soon be mission accomplished and men of limited abilities like Neil can pull this off. No sweat. Well maybe a few heart in mouth moments but to be honest the other Neil. McCann could probably pull it off as well given the circumstances. Anyone who wants Neil Lennon to get the gig for the long haul isn’t thinking’ properly Rodgers was a step up now we must try to step further up not down, however I wouldn’t be displeased if Stevie Clarke was put in.
I could also go with Stevie Clarke but I don’t think he is interested. I think he’s a good football man.
Mystery? What’s up with Bayo? Supposedly good in the air, good with his back to goal.What’s more, we own him,he is not with us on loan. The main ‘refreshing’ Lenny needs to do is being done for him: by our injured lads who are returning. What is true? We have maybe two cup matches and 5 in the league against our chief rivals. We will know where we stand with Lenny after that.
Devoy,
We have to be careful with wanting guys like Clarke, he does a wonderful job with a club with no high expectations, no real pressure to win.
Not sure how he would do with the pressure of a big club on his shoulders.
Cruciate knee injury out till well into pre-season mate
Ask Mike about Kouassi 🙂
” will be wondering why Brendan Rodgers walked out on them for a bigger and better job ”
I got to this and then stopped.
pile of shite
The SFA don’t do irony but if they did: While most leagues look at introducing VAR, to assist them in making football better and more open and honest. The SFA talk about it and quickly bury it along with their heads in the sand. There is an even bigger gap becoming obvious between the bigger and richer leagues and the poorer less wealthy leagues. Does that have a bearing on the C.L. Europe’s elite competition with ever growing rich’s? Yes it does, you would think that those in power would be looking to bring in major sponsors to increase cash into the Scottish game, but so far? No the irony of our new VAR system could be the introduction of Mobile CCTV to train on supporters attending games, Orwell arrives in Scottish football, theirs is the “final solution” to flares and coconut shy’s. Could you imagine it in Govan, filming the filth as they sing their joyous world appreciation. No, we know where the CCTV cameras will be trained, our “Big Brother” will be watching. How stupid is that? but how obvious. It would be much easier to introduce less Orwellian solutions, like more stewarding. Make no mistake “Strict Liability” will be introduced and more monies lost to the game. While other events will take place and glass eyes used to make a comparison to drugs and bad behaviour. Scottish football is completely fucked, fucked by those that run it….
Another post goes into the dusty bin, did it? Aye.
Gos nez du matin.
FFF
Gros nez du matin.
F.F.F.
(*)
Din’t think your mother shares that view….
Buzz cock,
Still threatening violence online i see…..
Keep going.
Gros nez du matin qui a mang’e toutes les tartes, vous avez-vous gourmand.
Merci les gross Desimondo.
=======0==== Last train to San Fernando, last train to San Fernando, cos if you miss this one, ther’le never be another one, goody goody gumdrops, last train to San Fernando. F.F.F. and who’s on it? Ntcham, Ntcham, Ntcham.
Voule-Vous, ah-ha ah-ha Voule-Vous ah-ha, ah-ha F.F.F.
🙂
Is that not a Mexican?
Inka Grings, 2/1 for Celtic`s new Manager.
All the best Inka.HH
Has anyone seen footage of that Rhino poacher being eaten alive by a Lion?
I want to see this….
Popcorn ready!
Leave the animals alone ya cunts!
Just for clarity, it was not my nose, bitten off outside wee Natcho Novo’s bar at the weekend, God nose who’s it was.
God only nose what I’d be without it,
God only nose…
Heaven nose. But do you nose the way to San Nosey, cos I want to nose what love is, would you like to nose a secret, I nose its over. You don’t nose me. But Everybody Nose. I nose its over…
Uranus or pluto i just can’t decide
The golden pocket watch of “Handsome” Tom Maley, is to be sold at auction according to the Dundee Courier. Tom Maley spent his whole playing career in Scotland including playing for Celtic and Dundee Harp. After his playing career ended he joined Manchester City as manager in the 1901-02 season. Maley born in 1864, led City to its first major win, the F.A. cup in 1904. However in 1905 he was banned from football for life, being accused of overpaying his players the max. £4.00 per week. Tom Maley died in 1935 and is buried in Glasgow, not too far from the “Rangers” burial site. But he should be remembered for his skill and playing ability and as the first great leader at Manchester City. “Whaes like us, no many”
For succinct reasoning why Resolution 12 matters (if you care about dishonesty and about restoring some semblance of integrity for a so called sport many pay large sums to follow) have a read at the 200% article.
http://twohundredpercent.net/resolution-12-the-archive/
Ranting at Broonie in the media last week, now Lurkio I in the Sun ranting at misbehaviour by fans, his article as usual attacks Celtic fans, specifically the G B.
No mention of the hoardes at Ibrokes who constantly stir the pot, unable to admit that their players behave like the characters outside Novos pub in Glasgow,.
Regarding the SFA they are shit scared to move forward into the light as it inevitably means the death of the zombies.
As for Lenny, necessary stop gap Ralph, but his time has passed, the club need a strong manager to continue on their hunt for trophies and to bury the hoardes of Celtic haters.
Look forward to the ABZ game, but concerned at Lennies record at The dump called Hampden.
Dracula at the SFA MAHAHAHA. The SFA’s Count Dracula, ventures into the sunlight, bites the jugular of other Scottish teams, before he rushes back into his Crypt before the sun comes out. “Anyone for Stake and chips”? while the Zombies join him, wrapped in bandages, unable to bend their legs, they trample all over Scottish football.
“Beware of the Zombies” a toxic club, no money, no hope, a nothing klan. But if anyone klan, they klan..
Suggestion began on CQN but its worth repeating.
Auldheid, et al
Tremendous respect, and grateful thanks, for the Res 12 compendium. What would be of great value, imho, is a simple tabulated chronology, giving an overview of events and their relationship in time, to events since 2012, without going into a myriad of detail. Add a footnote link to the detailed information for more in-depth reading and understanding. Possibly a route to wider dissemination. Maybe this one-page (or two pages back-to-back) could be reproduced in a leaflet and distributed at turnstiles? HH
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You mean something on these lines that was published in NotTheView on sale at the Livi game?
Its 2 pages but could be reduced but needs
1. Funding
2. Someone to organise/guide content
3. Someone to place order, collect and then find enough volunteers to distribute.
It would help if there were a lot more helpers/volunteers which is where the CSA/CST could step in.
From NotThe View
Read all about Resolution 12 adjourned at the Celtic AGM 2013.
(The one that asked for UEFA to investigate the circumstances under which Rangers were granted a licence by the SFA to compete in the Champions League in 2011 because it appeared there was overdue tax payable to HMRC that was a reason to refuse the licence and open the door for Celtic to replace Rangers with the consequential financial benefit to Celtic and their share value.)
If you want chapter and verse, not only on what took place in 2011/12 but about how the SFA dealt with questions raised by a group of Celtic shareholders, who considered that by denying Celtic CL access as a result of events in 2011 , there was a negative effect on their share value that the SFA are accountable for, then please check the incredible narrative at:
https://www.res12.uk/
• Read why proof that there was no overdue payable tax to HMRC at 31st March 2011 is highly questionable.
• Read how that proof, provided to SFA by Rangers at end of March 2011 is apparently contradicted by court testimony and hard evidence, requiring an investigation by the SFA Compliance Officer that finally began in September 2017.
• Read how that SFA Judicial Panel Disciplinary Tribunal set up by the Compliance Officer to establish if the licence was granted on false pretence or not, decided in July 2018, that the Court of Arbitration on Sport must adjudicate. This apparently as result of an argument made by The Rangers Football Club Ltd that the Five Way Agreement of July 2012 required CAS to be the adjudicators.
• Read how any false pretence was kept from discovery in May 2011 by non-disclosure of an HMRC letter indicating significant change from the basis on which the licence was granted, a letter in which HMRC accused Rangers of negligent or fraudulent behaviour.
• Read how non-disclosure of that same letter, not only in 2011 but again by Rangers Administrators Duff and Phelps in 2012, allowed Lord Nimmo Smith to state in the LNS Commission Decision that there was “no question of dishonesty individual or corporate” when evidence to the contrary was excluded from the scrutiny of the LNS Commission, an exclusion which in a court of law would normally invalidate the findings once uncovered.
• Read how Craig Whyte was never charged by SFA of not paying the £2.8 M wee tax bill but was charged with not paying VAT and PAYE thus keeping the wee tax bill from scrutiny.
• Read how the SFA from 2014 failed to act on the contents of that letter presented to them by Celtic on shareholders behalf until Celtic shareholders employed a lawyer to pursue answers in 2015.
• Read how UEFA were eventually approached in 2016 and their reply that told the SFA by copy that UEFA viewed the club based at Ibrox applying for a UEFA Licence after 2012 as a NEW club/company and therefore UEFA could not sanction Rangers FC who had gone into liquidation in 2012 for any breaches they committed in 2011.
• Read how SFA prevarication from 2014 contributed to UEFA also justifying not investigating because of 5 year time bar regulation after which they could not investigate licensing matters (although there is no time bar on corruption).
• Read how STV reported on UEFA’s response omitting reference to the “newness” in UEFA’s response that SFA never corrected.
• Read how charges of noncompliance with SFA Articles relating to honesty/good faith were finally brought by the SFA in 2018 after court testimony in 2017 suggested the licence was granted under false pretence.
• Read how the new Rangers responded and that the charges relating to the grant period at the end of March 2011 were dropped on the basis that accusations (never actually made under Res 12) were groundless.
• Read how volunteered evidence that false pretence did take place at end of March 2011, that the SFA have the power to confirm, was presented to the SFA in June 2018 by Res 12 lawyers which has not been addressed by SFA.
• Read that in July 2018 the Judicial Panel Disciplinary Tribunal (JPDT) decided they had to pass their power to act to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) under the full terms of the secret Five Way Agreement.
• Read why Celtic shareholders expressed unhappiness at the CAS referral at the Celtic AGM in 2018 not knowing if what was presented to SFA in June 2018 by Res12 lawyers in respect of end of March 2011 was to be part of that referral.
• On its way: The implications for SFA governance and their Judicial Panel Protocol as a result of the JPDT having to cede their judicial power to CAS under the secret Five Way Agreement and the stunning implications of that for the LNS Commission in 2012/13 and SFA’s handling of Resolution 12 from 2014.
As matters develop the Timeline at
https://www.res12.uk/ will continue to be updated – so stay tuned.
Let’s see if transparency can lead to accountability.
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Something on those lines?
The suggestion began in a CQN post but worth repeating here.
Auldheid, et al
Tremendous respect, and grateful thanks, for the Res 12 compendium. What would be of great value, imho, is a simple tabulated chronology, giving an overview of events and their relationship in time, to events since 2012, without going into a myriad of detail. Add a footnote link to the detailed information for more in-depth reading and understanding. Possibly a route to wider dissemination. Maybe this one-page (or two pages back-to-back) could be reproduced in a leaflet and distributed at turnstiles? HH
===============
You mean something on these lines that was published in NotTheView on sale at the Livi game?
Its 2 pages but could be reduced but needs
1. Funding
2. Someone to organise/guide content
3. Someone to place order, collect and then find enough volunteers to distribute.
It would help if there were a lot more helpers/volunteers which is where the CSA/CST could step in.
From NotThe View
Read all about Resolution 12 adjourned at the Celtic AGM 2013.
(The one that asked for UEFA to investigate the circumstances under which Rangers were granted a licence by the SFA to compete in the Champions League in 2011 because it appeared there was overdue tax payable to HMRC that was a reason to refuse the licence and open the door for Celtic to replace Rangers with the consequential financial benefit to Celtic and their share value.)
If you want chapter and verse, not only on what took place in 2011/12 but about how the SFA dealt with questions raised by a group of Celtic shareholders, who considered that by denying Celtic CL access as a result of events in 2011 , there was a negative effect on their share value that the SFA are accountable for, then please check the incredible narrative at:
https://www.res12.uk/
• Read why proof that there was no overdue payable tax to HMRC at 31st March 2011 is highly questionable.
• Read how that proof, provided to SFA by Rangers at end of March 2011 is apparently contradicted by court testimony and hard evidence, requiring an investigation by the SFA Compliance Officer that finally began in September 2017.
• Read how that SFA Judicial Panel Disciplinary Tribunal set up by the Compliance Officer to establish if the licence was granted on false pretence or not, decided in July 2018, that the Court of Arbitration on Sport must adjudicate. This apparently as result of an argument made by The Rangers Football Club Ltd that the Five Way Agreement of July 2012 required CAS to be the adjudicators.
• Read how any false pretence was kept from discovery in May 2011 by non-disclosure of an HMRC letter indicating significant change from the basis on which the licence was granted, a letter in which HMRC accused Rangers of negligent or fraudulent behaviour.
• Read how non-disclosure of that same letter, not only in 2011 but again by Rangers Administrators Duff and Phelps in 2012, allowed Lord Nimmo Smith to state in the LNS Commission Decision that there was “no question of dishonesty individual or corporate” when evidence to the contrary was excluded from the scrutiny of the LNS Commission, an exclusion which in a court of law would normally invalidate the findings once uncovered.
• Read how Craig Whyte was never charged by SFA of not paying the £2.8 M wee tax bill but was charged with not paying VAT and PAYE thus keeping the wee tax bill from scrutiny.
• Read how the SFA from 2014 failed to act on the contents of that letter presented to them by Celtic on shareholders behalf until Celtic shareholders employed a lawyer to pursue answers in 2015.
• Read how UEFA were eventually approached in 2016 and their reply that told the SFA by copy that UEFA viewed the club based at Ibrox applying for a UEFA Licence after 2012 as a NEW club/company and therefore UEFA could not sanction Rangers FC who had gone into liquidation in 2012 for any breaches they committed in 2011.
• Read how SFA prevarication from 2014 contributed to UEFA also justifying not investigating because of 5 year time bar regulation after which they could not investigate licensing matters (although there is no time bar on corruption).
• Read how STV reported on UEFA’s response omitting reference to the “newness” in UEFA’s response that SFA never corrected.
• Read how charges of noncompliance with SFA Articles relating to honesty/good faith were finally brought by the SFA in 2018 after court testimony in 2017 suggested the licence was granted under false pretence.
• Read how the new Rangers responded and that the charges relating to the grant period at the end of March 2011 were dropped on the basis that accusations (never actually made under Res 12) were groundless.
• Read how volunteered evidence that false pretence did take place at end of March 2011, that the SFA have the power to confirm, was presented to the SFA in June 2018 by Res 12 lawyers which has not been addressed by SFA.
• Read that in July 2018 the Judicial Panel Disciplinary Tribunal (JPDT) decided they had to pass their power to act to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) under the full terms of the secret Five Way Agreement.
• Read why Celtic shareholders expressed unhappiness at the CAS referral at the Celtic AGM in 2018 not knowing if what was presented to SFA in June 2018 by Res12 lawyers in respect of end of March 2011 was to be part of that referral.
• On its way: The implications for SFA governance and their Judicial Panel Protocol as a result of the JPDT having to cede their judicial power to CAS under the secret Five Way Agreement and the stunning implications of that for the LNS Commission in 2012/13 and SFA’s handling of Resolution 12 from 2014.
As matters develop the Timeline at
https://www.res12.uk/ will continue to be updated – so stay tuned.
Let’s see if transparency can lead to accountability.
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Something on those lines?
While the manager for next season is very important, what’s even more important is to spend big on new players. Great managers however can improve good players into great players. I.E. Steve Clarke at Kilmarnock has made big improvements to the players that were already there and directionless. So of course we need a new manager to take the team forward, but he must also be backed and backed well. Whatever else anyone has to say about Rodgers, he brought in a more professional approach, the players already here, he also improved and with that came some success on the park, more success and more revenue into the club. His coaching team including Toure also brought in other players that otherwise might have gone elsewhere. But are we ambitious enough to follow through with that and spend big with the money filled to the brim in the biscuit tin. Its there for a new manager to spend, if P.L. allows it. Spend big but carefully to ensure future success and future revenue and not to just beat the Huns, European progress.
How did he improve Van Dijk?
In detail please.
CS,
Utter pish!
And you were a fud when you arrived & a fud when you leave!
” Granite wall “?
Hahahahahaj
Depends on how ambitious you want the Celtic to be, if your ambitions are limited to Scottish football, there is an argument that Lenny’s your man. If your ambitions (Or P.L.s) stretch further and you want the club in the C.L. then IMO someone more experienced in Europe should be brought in. Before you start hyper-ventilating, I know what he has achieved for Celtic in the C.L. in the past. The, C.L. and European football has moved on dramatically, in the past five years. Just look at the Europa’s and the huge gulf in finances in the C.L. this is going to widen even further. Remember when he left Celtic, where was the clubs clamouring for his services. None, he went fire dousing at Bolton, left and eventually went to the Hibees. Now he done o’k. there but his Europa qualifications were limited. Greek side, scrape through, Molde defeat. If your premise is ambition, then common sense dictates a more experienced European coach is necessary. BTW. the gut wrenching Sectarianism that he faced, should not cloud our thoughts about his ability to manage Celtic…
Charlie Saiz: So we don’t even try to bring in any other manager? I disagree with you, I think that the quality of the C.L. players are improving all the time, like diet, science, training and tactics. Look, even at the size of the players compared to past times, they are much bigger physical specimens. I agree that Lenny did brilliant against Barca, I said so and yes football finances in the richer bigger leagues have increased massively. His bravery is not in dispute, its his suitability in Europe that is my concern. We both want only the best for Celtic and I want the best manager we can get and the best players we can afford, same as you, we only disagree on who the best manager is..
Diet?
Have yeh no heard of the word diet, MAHAHAHA I guess not. Its when you cut the number of fish suppers down to three per day and stick to diet coke.
If you die due to toxin consumption then you cannot put on weight can you? So die-et coke does work. 😉
Monti, I would get out the popcorn too. Poaching a rhino, you get stomped on by a bull elephant then eaten by a lion. Hat trick! To complete the picture, vultures pick you clean!
I wish life was more like that.
“Let justice prevail, even if the heavens fall…” Auld Fenian Michael Davitt
I love the Celtic. When they win my life is just a wee bit better.
Good health to all on this site and to their loved ones.
Now Lenny, be figuring out how to best those
Bleating Sheep.
Devoy,
I loved hearing about this m8, poetic justice, especially the fucks killing Elephants for their ivory.
I hope the Lion shared the bastard with his pride.
In Glasgow’s fair city
Where the Huns are so shitty
I first heard the whines of poor Stevie the Moan
Whenever they took a beating
You would hear Stevie greeting
At the old crocks and numpties they’d signed at Sevco
A fiver a go, a fiver a go
Old crocks and numpties a fiver a go.
The Hun fans were scunnered
And that was no wonder
For they’d heard that Dave would spend millions before
Now the word spread through Govan
That all he was shovin’
Were old crocks and numpties in the Ibrox door
A fiver a go, a fiver a go
Old crocks and numpties a fiver a go.
Steve was caught saying prayers
At Mass for new players
And that was the end for poor Stevie the Moan
Got paid off with a barrow
Full of Fat Sally’s marrows
And curses the day he arrived at Sevco
“The Huns are loco, the Huns are loco”
“They told me that Mass is a total no-no”.
He he. 😉 Alive alive O’ Alive alive O’ Naw ther deed.
Shut up you thick cunt!
Mwahahahahaha
Stupid, stupid man.
Funny……
Have to laugh.
You are nowhere near getting to me, nowhere near.
Like i said to you before Gringo, you would be better targeting someone else, i find you internet hardmen entertaining.
Give it your best son.
You are clearly Gringo, same writing style, same angle & same bullshit.
I’d urge you to up your game tho because you aren’t making any splash here friendo.
Latest betting has seen odds tumble on this guy today. Any thoughts Have you noticed that Andre Villas Boas has come in on the betting today? The former Spurs and Chelsea manager who had a spell at Zenit in Russia before a big money earning period in China is now keen to get back into European football and preferably with a Champions League side.
CS,
You can’t see anything with your head in a nosebag
Martinez would be my choice also buzz bomb.
Lenny will bring us home, a victory over the sheep this weekend will be the confidence booster the players need to go and secure the title.
We are still in a very fragile state and the players and supporters know it. We need to stick with it till the league is won.
Lenny will have answered the call but shouldn’t get the job full time.
Did Peter stop him bringing in Gary Parker his assistant? If so then it shows he would only be a puppet under Lawwell. I see Shved got player of the month in the Ukraine maybe Congerton got us a player after all.
Boyata is, was, will always be a weak link when push comes to shove; his limited talent is always overcome by his lack of bottle when it really matters.
After forgiving him for being ‘young’ (he looks like one of ‘the black babies’ we used to collect money for) but is actually about 4 years older than Simunovic.
Anyway, if BR really over-ruled PL and refused about £8/9 million from Fulham last year then the compo for BR et al has been lost before it was gained. By BR/PL or both. I STILL say, as I’ve done for at least 2 years, get Boyata tae fuck ASAP, an actor, not a footballer, a fucking liability-in-waiting.
ANY cunt who’d pay £38k per week for that cunt deserves all they’ll get, and that’s fuck-all. You’ll never hear of him again, WE, Celtic, are his pinnacle. (No hard feelings of course, Dedryck, just fuck off and close the door behind you. You fucking AEK, Greek tragedy of a cunt that you ARE)
HH. FC not PLC (and thanks to the ghuy/ghal who coined it)
COYBIG
PS been decorating/refurbishing/spending money I canny afford et cetera for many weeks now and it just keeps coming to mind; whoever invented fucking wants decorating and whoever invented decorating……
PPS (to Auldheid or anyone with Res 12) I saw ‘Mike’ on here offer proxy on his shares, and perhaps that of his son(s)? I only have a few, about 120, but would happily offer proxy or perhaps a donation towards getting to the truth of 2011/12 and more.
I, in my heart KNEW that PL would do fuck all and stated it at the time when guys like Auldheid and the others at Res 12 were prepared to trust him and give him time; he’s a grade ‘A’ cunt with a lot to hide and a fully paid-up member of the self-glorification society. Fuck him, and ALL his ilk, daily ad infinitum.
TicToc,
Agreed!
Awww, that’s nice Monti.
It must be your day off! 🙂
(Remember when I’d told you not to be cunt ALL yer life….)
HaHaHa have a nice day (you’re certainly not ALL bad, so here’s cheers to the new Monti) 🙂
HH
You still here?
Boomerang finished then?
“Monkey”?
Oh dear….you are aware i’m black?
Talking to your ma again then?
“Anytime anywhere”
BB,
I’m more familiar with Possil, i used to erm, frequent one or two houses there in my teenage years.
Early 90’s.
Made a couple of good contacts then, is Prospect hill st still there?
Charlie Saiz,
Just out of curiosity, when was the last time you attended a match at Celtic Park?
Not something I’d divulge at present as same source provided helpful direction and without context could be misread.
Auldheid: Glad that you are engaging with other clubs supporters.
As you have shown in all your correspondence the SFA have and will continue to prevaricate. There seems to be a general reluctance by the Celtic board to pursue Res. 12. why? you could only guess.
A 5% of the share issue is required to include Res.12 in the articles of the AGM. So why not do that now and get them to explain how they want to proceed, if not why not, put pressure on them, raise the 5% of shareholders now, for now is the time.
Letter 29th March, criminal lawyer letter now under draft, it would be good to have that up your sleeve, to proceed with charges when appropriate. (This part one).
I’ve been posting……sniff.
Mike, a semi-decent comment from you lost by some of the inane, unrelated comments following. Pity that.
Anyway, it’s heartening to know that Res 12 is perhaps taking off now, but IMHO, Res 12 is but part of a necessary ‘reformation’ of Scottish football entirely and also Celtic PLC specifically (for us Celtic FC supporters).
I’ll certainly pay into ANY concerted action by Celtic FC supporters where the end-game is for the betterment of the FC.
Lawwell, cunt that he IS, is still just a Desmond minion. The bigger problem almost certainly lies (both connotations) in the potential ‘asset’, and that’s ALL it (Celtic FC) is to that tory scum. We can be sold for profit. Well, Charlie Saiz, who gets a lot of shit thrown at him on here, undeservedly IMO, was propogating supporter-ownership a long time ago; he wasn’t the 1st but he followed his point with facts, figures and HOPE.
For that CS, and your enlightening info about the birth of our club, helped on by a ‘McFadden’ from Hibs, I am truly grateful.
I’m too fucking tired to try to make sense/clarity.
Nutshell; thanks CS, 2nd to none on here. Thanks Auldheid and his co-requisitioners (revolutionaries?) WE’RE CELTIC FC, WE ARE TRUE, THE PLC ARE SURROGATE boys IN BLUE.
Fuck em all.
HH
HAHAHA a semi decent comment, fuckin brill. 😉 Cheers, fur the laugh.
You really disappoint me, Mike. I once thought more of you.
Behaving (in word) like a self-centred, tory arshole as ALL you can see in my comment is what you (wrongly) percieve as a put-down. Fuck off, stop plagiarising better minds, give credit where it’s due and then begin again.
Tic Toc, I was merely laughing at the (semi) put down, nothing more, nothing less, your reading something in my post that isn’t there..
No hard feelings, Mike.
I don’t tend to hold grudges or the like anyway.
HH
I am always reluctant to post on Res.12 for fear of standing on anyone’s toes. But the blogger’s that back Res.12 could advertise on their behalf to raise funding, surely that wouldn’t be too difficult. They could do the same for volunteers, to hand out printed leaflets, at the turnstyle’s at home games, I said that on a recent diary. Its important to make Auldheid know that he and his fellow requisitioners are not on there own and that we really appreciate the amount of work that they have done. So funding, leaflets, volunteers to hand them out at all home games,all to put pressure on the board and see how that goes. Raise the issue at the next AGM with the backing of the wee shareholders, questions put by a solicitor and pursue the question of fraud and GIRUT.
Well said Buzz and we all like a Bomber on here 😉 The work they have put in is immeasurable and you are quite correct in that, no-one would be any the wiser were it not for the Resolutioners. The leafletting is their way of putting the message out to the mainstream supporters, but its my opinion that quite a lot are aware of Res. 12. Again you are correct when you say that many only wish to watch the Celtic and are not interested in the politics of sport. However, many would be angry at the thought of the scale of the fraud. I remember attending an AGM and being accosted outside by a reporter from STV, he was fishing for information about it, questioning many as we left the meeting. Bhoy are they scared about it getting out. So, the time for action is now, a concerted directed effort is what is needed. H. H. to the bould bhoys.
Mike,
I second that 😉
😉
Yep, arse has two BB’s in it 🙂