Celtic Diary Wednesday February 20: Reactions, Referees and the Real World

 

Debate and discussion continues to surround the incidents at Rugby Park after Celtic beat Kilmarnock with a late Scott Brown goal.

As for the Kris boyd coin throwing incident, clarification came from Excathedra in the replies..

Ralph,what is behind Boyd is red and white safety tape across rows 1 and 2 behind 2 disabled shelters,I was in row 4 which was the second occupied row.He was initially unaware of coin and did not make a big deal of it.
He could have warmed up in front of Main stand but sought a reaction in my opinion. 

Along with notes from others who were there, this appears to be what happened.

And where.

See how easy it is to clear something up ?

Another note claims that the supporter who confronted Kilmarnock players did make a well known hand gesture towards a Kilmarnock player when he entered the field of play.

That, if correct, explains the Kilmarnock statement about “confrontation “.

There are also reports of misbehaviour after the game, what can best be described as exuberance as the Celtic support made its way out of the ground and into the surrounding streets.

Your fans on Sunday lived up to the finest traditions of Old Firm fans (both sides) – pissing in the street; threatening kids and pensioners; kicking the doors of passing cars; and don’t get me started on the Green Brigade bullshit. 

We’ve all seen it, and its foolish to pretend it doesn’t happen. Whether it did or not, only those at the game will be able to verify.

Thats not to condone it, but we’ve no right to criticise others when we have problems of our own.

To see ourselves as others see us ?

Maybe we should sometimes.

Its clear that there were problems during and after the game.

Late goals in tense game always lead to an expression of joy, or even relief.

A sunday 4pm kick off may have contributed, as it allows for plenty of refreshment ahead of the game, and as always, that will have repercussions.

Quite why the clubs, Celtic in particular,  pander to television companies who provide such a small percentage of total revenue is beyond me. If we do have to play on a Sunday, and Europa participation makes this unavoidable, then a noon or 1pm kick off is plenty late enough, those who want to drink will still have time to drink, and those who don’t , don’t have to.

But thats not to make excuses.

Bad behaviour is bad behaviour, and it gives the media an excuse to use that double sided paint when it comes to tainting the two big Glasgow clubs.

I prefer to see things from as many angles as I can, which is why I do yoga, and as a result, there should be a different viewpoint on the site tomorrow, which will make interesting reading.

You can make your own minds up after that.

 

The big knobs in Scottish football have got around the table and decided that referees aren’t very good after all, and may increase recruitment from other areas that don’t have marches every July.

This is long overdue, although no doubt next month when foreigners aren’t allowed to work in this country, they will claim that they tried, and resort to the traditional method of recruitment involving where candidates received their initial state education.

The BBC said;

The Scottish Football Association will consider changes to refereeing and disciplinary procedures, including proposals to introduce officials from overseas.

It follows a heated meeting between the SFA, the compliance officer and the 12 Scottish Professional Football League premiership clubs on Monday.

BBC Scotland understands an agreement was reached for an SPFL working party to look at fundamental change and report back with proposals.

These could be introduced as early as next season.

A number of clubs expressed concern about the standards of refereeing and are in favour of increasing the pool of grade one referees by calling on officials from England, Wales or even further afield. 

Chris MacLaughlin, who wrote the piece, gave his opinion..

Referees feel under threat – analysis

BBC Scotland’s Chris McLaughlin

Clubs questioning the standard of refereeing in Scottish football is nothing new – it happens to varying levels most years but this year it feels different. Not since 2010 has there been such focus on the failings of officials.

Back then referees felt undermined to such a level that they withdrew their services. Foreign officials stepped in until the dispute was resolved. Could the talk of foreign officials force similar action almost a decade later? It could if the SPFL and the referees can’t find common ground.

There’s little doubt the men in the middle feel under threat. Some clubs will now try to convince them that foreign help could actually be a benefit.

It will be a hard sell in a pretty tense and often toxic landscape. 

Ralph Malph, who wrote this article gave his…

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Keith Jackson of the Record tweeted..

We’re going back down a dangerous road here…

He’s right…what with all those cans flying about..

 

Yet again, the real problem is ignored.

The blazers , whilst appearing to be open to suggestions, have actually buttoned up around the real problem..

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The referees are not of a high standard, and there is little interest in improving the standard. Part time-or amateur -referees do not have the time or the desire to improve.

John Fleming is responsible for the referees in Scotland, and he is doing nothing to improve things.

If we really are serious about widening the field of recruitment there’s really only one job we need to advertise…

His.

With all the bruhaha surrounding football in Scotland of late, its nice to see that some friendships can be made however deep the divide is..

Ah, humour !

Remember when laughter was king, when banter was banter and not hatred ?

Today, we have a referee living in fear of his life…which might put foreign applicants off the job anyway, and a police force standing idly by as he cowers in his home, wondering if each day will be his last..

There is a need for a summit meeting, involving clubs, authorities and fan representatives.

Rab, on twitter, was spot on last month when he said..

Much like the referee situation in Scotland, there will be no serious attempts made to tackle pitch invasions until Celtic fans invade a pitch and Scotland can have the discussion and base it around Celtic fans actions.

Perhaps we could discuss it when the report on the Janefield underpass crush is released ?
I do not believe I’m understating it when I am of the opinion that someone is taking the piss with that report, and Celtic need to pull their collective finger out. The hordes descend again on March 31, and there is still no clarification of what caused the problem last time…

 

A meeting to move the game forward in several directions is in everyones best interests, but unfortunately that won’t happen until the mess over at ibrox, and its influence on the game is dealt with.

The BBC again..

BBC Scotland has rejected claims of bias against Rangers after the club said it was being unfairly treated.

The Rangers managing director said the broadcaster’s highlights programme Sportscene had undue influence on the SFA’s compliance officer.

Stewart Robertson also claimed coverage was influenced by an ongoing dispute between the BBC and Rangers.

The BBC has not broadcast from within Ibrox for more than three years, since the club said one of its journalists was no longer welcome. 

There they go, wasting licence payers money again, when all they had to do was send a card..

All they had to say in response to claims of bias was…

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Of course, its another deflection.

They clearly don’t fancy their chances of beating Kilmarnock in the Cup, and so need to distract the hordes away from their own failings.

They even brought James Traynor, the Fat Controller out of hiding, presumably the bill for widening the door has been sent to the club and the company to be sure it will be paid, who asked for

” Fairness, balance…” and something else that he feels is missing from his current CV.

Oddly enough, google this interview, or any news relating to Traynor…it isn’t there..

 

Yesterday, we had this innovative idea..

Imma Timm February 19, 2019 at 9:29 am · Edit · Reply →

Caption….Plans revealed for the new look St Alphonsus!
Should be ready for this July.

Today..

80 Comments

  • Andy B

    Dear Imma The St Alphonsus caption response is the best I’ve seen in a while, and there have been some crackers. Absolutely PMSL Briiliant

  • Steven R

    I’ve long been an advocate of seeing Fleming being given his jotters. Taking “institutional bias” out of the equation, what we are left with is incompetence. If only one referee makes mistakes on a regular basis, then in any other walk of life, he would be retrained in order to reach an acceptable standard. Continued failure to learn from such retraining renders that employee as “unfit for purpose”, and is “invited to provide the DWP with regular calligraphic contributions”. If the entire refereeing population collectively get things wrong, it can only point to failings from senior management – in this case, John Fleming. The idea of having a manager is that he/she “manages” (I know – it sounds crazy, doesn’t it?). That manager delegates his responsibilities on to his “underlings”, but when they screw up, the buck stops with the manager. If Fleming has any honour, he’d tender his resignation, before he is offered the opportunity to become a governmental calligrather.

  • The Cha

    Caption “Fuxake Tom, shut up about Timmy pitch invasions, there’s none of our fans left to do one of our own”

  • Noel Skytrot

    Caption….whit are the baws doing Tom, whit are they doing?

    They look fucking stupid with those big mikes stuck in front of their faces.

  • desimond

    How many times have Scottish media requested interviews with SFA and Fleming….I bet its amazingly even less than the number of articles where they have dared question Stevie G!

  • The Cha

    That statement from the “Killie” fan reeks of pish.

    “threatening kids and pensioners”

    Ah yes, that well known behaviour of our fans, especially after a glorious finale, to all but seal 8 in a row.

    “Green Brigade bullshit”

    Ah, that well known MSM, err, bullshit. I doubt, if the GB account for more than a few percent of Celtic fans and, I’d doubt if I’d recognise any of them on the street, far less a “Killie” fan.

    I’d file this with the report from the other year that our fans were shiting in carrier bags and throwing them at oppo fans.

    Strangely enough, I think, that one also came from “non-Huns” in Ayrshire to.

  • gav

    caption: Sneeze bubble at world gum blowing championships deemed to be imperfect but not illegal, thence no sporting advantage

  • Iancelt67

    Lillie thing is a storm in a teacup I don’t know why such an esteemed and quite brilliant author of this blog would want to permeate the drama surrounding it as if it’s important move the fuck on and talk about Valencia and how we’re going to do them

  • jimboh

    Caption…
    Responding to SPFL calls for Transparency the SFA allow their Disciplinary Review Tribunal to hold its first public meeting. This the SFA claim should end complaints of bias and affinity to any particular club.

  • Weered

    Caption: seems to be red nose match day on the nearside and bluenose day on the far side…Surely it’s bluenose day every day according to some media reports…

  • Charlie Saiz

    Caption
    “20 minutes left here at Ibrox and it’s Rangers 1 Celtic 5 and John Higgins has just went pyoor mental in the away end”

  • Noel Skytrot

    As someone who is critical of the Celtic “custodians” I have to hold my hands up and say with a small w(ell) done too them for taking the SFA to task over poor officiating and leading the way for demanding reform. I wonder if any pther clubs will pitch behind them and try to force the cabal to make changes?

      • Noel Skytrot

        Cha, not being a sarky bastard, a few Celtic sites, CQN-Lawwells Pravda and James Forrest are stating that Celtic are the driving force behind this motion.

        • The Cha

          Mm, it’s come after the disciplinary process is starting to work correctly eg Morelos and McGregor dealt with by CO process.

          After which the Huns going into meltdown, allege all kind of paranoid shit, demand meetings, which are held etc.

          but Celtic are the driving force, mm. 🙁

  • Pensionerbhoy

    Ralph,

    Yes, as usual, there has been an excessive amount of adverse, if not dubious and irresponsible, reporting in the media about Sunday’s events. I understand and, to some extent, support the criticism of the reports by fans. However, in the final analysis, we behaved badly and it is not the only time, particularly considering the regular, unbelievably stupid and inconsiderate misuse of dangerous pyrotechnics such as flares. Nor do we do ourselves many favours by singing “on the edge” with some irrelevant songs – and please do not claim we are singing them purely for their musical excellence. It is clearly done to antagonise. Given this is the case, it is quite hypocritical to seek justification with “what-aboutery”, the very source of our own condemnation of others over many years. Nor is it acceptable to pass the events off as insignificant or over-hyped and demanding everyone just moves on. We found such an approach totally anathema when used by others, especially those in power, in the past. In the end, no matter the lack of justification for possibly inept or biased reporting we have been subjected to on many occasions or the blatant over-highlighting of the misbehaviour of Celtic fans, we simply must acknowledge we ourselves can and have been as prone to indiscipline as any other support. Granted it most often is not as bad nor as frequent but we would be worse than blind – and there are more than enough of that already in all aspects of Scottish football – not to recognise our own failings in this matter. It is totally unacceptable from any support but I find it doubly abhorrent from my fellow supporters because of the irreparable damage to the reputation of a club and a uniquely well behaved support that I have followed and loved with all my heart for decades I wish were still to come. I ask my fellow support, therefore, to admit their guilt, be courageous enough to apologise for it and to use it to ensure we behave impeccably in the future. Otherwise, our club and our justified reputation for being the greatest supporters in the world is heading for oblivion. This breaks my heart much more than any humiliating defeat and even more so when we try to pretend we are faultless especially because we are not as bad or no worse than others. WE MUST ALWAYS BE BETTER because that is who we are and because the penalty for not being is fatal.

    As for referees from other countries, I would ask our fans to look closely at the performances of such referees. Watching the standard of refereeing in English football does not fill me with any greater hope for improvement except, perhaps, the absence of blatant bias. Some of the decisions I have seen watching English matches have been just as horrendous as those witnessed on our Scottish pitches.

    Turning to foreign referees, I would remind our support of two things. First, looking back over years of European football, it is obvious continental referees have a completely different interpretation of many rules to that of Scottish referees – and I do not mean they are not one-sided. Take, for example, the intense wrestling that takes place time and time again in penalty boxes during free-kicks or corners with the approval of referees. Shirt pulling is seen as perfectly normal and certainly not offensive. Perhaps that is down to the hot Latinos desire for a bit of striptease. Their interpretation of what constitutes a penalty is, to say the least, “foreign”. For those that have the years, think on the number of penalties denied us in Europe over the seasons. Secondly, the intolerance of foreign referees to tackles from behind is such that, should the Scottish game continue as is, I could see many games ending up as five-a-side. It appears to me that even the hint of a shadow at the back of a player could result in a card, often red. In addition, hard-tackling is a no-no as far as I can see while falling over – or as other sports call it, diving – seems, on the whole, to be quite acceptable. Given all these latter points, how often would you see Broonie or most of our defenders seeing out ninety minutes?

    I am very much in favour of a complete overhaul of our refereeing system and all that goes with it. However, I am not convinced referees from other countries is the answer. Some may argue it was proved to be better during the strike. I would ask how much of that was because we wanted it to be rather than it actually being? Maybe I am wrong or, at least pessimistic. I am not sure which. What I am certain of is, while there is urgent need for drastic change, more serious consideration of how that is accomplished is required than simply employing foreign referees.

    H H

      • jimboh

        AAA Rating Pensionerbhoy………somethimg none of our current crop of MIBs could ever hope to achieve.

        While foreign refs may not, in some cases, be excellent at least by declaring club affinities and being allowed to explain decisions post match they offer a contribution to the dialogue that is the essence of supporting. Accountability and Transparency plus a well defined culture of Meritocracy will help to ensure standards will rise.

        Our present crop know they are under threat because they realise themselves how bad and biased they are and that like most Yoonie traits in fair Caledonia they will no longer be tolerated.

        Call them out. If we are realy striving as a nation for an equitable society open to all then their days of influence in all sections of Civic, Cultural and Political life must be brought to an end. Generations of post war people in Scotland have experienced the real world ouwith these shores. Opportunities open to all, none of this what school did you go to, which foot do you kick with and how is your handshake. It is an an anachronism in the 21st Century and it’s time we buried it for good.
        No more doffing of caps, accepting whats doled out, no more back of the bus and if the Orcs of Mordor can’t handle the reality then no problem. They will die out over the next couple of generations and their children and grandchildren will be Celtic Supporters or followers of any one of a dozen other clubs that are prepared to face up to real world issues and escape from the shadow of the denizens of the Crumbledome. Scottish Football might be a bit “bent” and broken but it’s fixable if like Society in general we say No More, Not This Time and Never Again.

  • BJF

    Good balanced article Ralph, we are not perfect fans
    but fair play to Rory McKensie of Killie saying there
    was no harm in the Celtic fans they just wanted selfies with their own players, clearly didn’t “ confront” anybody.

  • BroxburnBhoy

    Kilmarnock events totally a blip a non story and really not worthy of the contributions made about it. This really is a case of moving on. One point is for those holier than thou types – celtic won, a Last minute goal, our captain ran close to the crowd and they celebrated with him! Stop the self flaggelation and be happier about it. They were Celtic fans watching celtic celebrating celtic

  • BJF

    So we ignore the coin throwing and the flares and smoke bombs, I think Celtic fans are better than that let down by a few numpties, we condemn them and then move on.

    • BroxburnBhoy

      Who there the coin mate? Do you know ?

      As for flares – those who set of flares should be arrested period end of story

  • Puggy67

    With Brexit there couldn’t be a worse time to entice foreign refs, although Irish citizens will be exempt from the red tape so problem solved…

  • Charlie Saiz

    ‘Scottish referees: Foreign officials idea is ‘like trying to push water uphill’ By Tom English

    Archimedes Screw you ya fud.

  • Excathedra

    Ralph,thanks for mention.
    I cant comment on the terrorism of children or pensioners,or the peeing,but when Police allow cars to use the roads despite it being full of pedestrians directly after the game,then some panel damage may be result.
    HH

  • Cartvale

    Caption
    Three dicks believe ‘Simply the best’ is true,not a load of balls.

    I have stopped going to away games, cup games, if more supporters were to do so, it would hit them where it hurts
    This debate about referees continues, but everyone ignores the elephant in the room ‘bigotry’ if raised it is highlighted as paranoia.
    It appears that finally Celtic are flexing their muscles, whilst Rankers are using smoke and mirrors to befuddle the gormless mobs that follow follow.
    Hopefully Killie will knock them out tonight, then there will be diarrhoea at Ibrokes

  • Bobby Murdoch’s Crumpled Up Chip Wrapper

    Caption!

    Pre impact snapshot after Catholic snooker player lets some Sevconians have it!

  • Noel Skytrot

    Killie keeper off. Stevie Clarke is going to rip right into the officials after this game. Alan Muir doing his best for the Lanarkshire refs Loyal. Refereeing is done here.

    • Noel Skytrot

      Can anyone explain why Statement FC never got a penalty when the keeper was deemed to have committed a foul in the box. Am I missing something?

  • B Boru

    hahahaha….well well well……what did we expect really bhoys and ghirls??

    If there are any doubters among you who still think this is down to incompetence you better go and have a word wae yersel….sharpish!!

    Fleming has played a blinder again with his staunch and loyal pool of fellow masonic/orange bastard officials answering the call in perfect unison!

    The hun players, especially huffalo, are being given the instruction to go down in box or at the slightest touch as they have ‘friends’ out there. It is no even up for debate any more!!

    Incompetence my arse!!

    Still be greetin’ into their sash’s n aprons come May. Fuck em all!

    HH

  • jimmybee

    The fix is in it is cheating on a grand scale by the masonic orange bastards that masquerade as referees. Everything else is a smokescreen.
    Fuck the SFA

  • Mike

    Scottish football was buried tonight, its taken seven years to get buried after it died in 2012. When the SFA facilitated the Huns entry into the C.L. qualifiers in 2012. We all know what we have faced before that including institutional racism which took on many different forms. Big Jock said that we have to be better and play better than any other Scottish team, but even he has never faced what was witnessed tonight in Govan. Right in your face obvious cheating, they don’t even try to hide it anymore. My question to the Celtic board is this, this is what happens when you help facilitate cheating. Proof was provided to you on a plate, hot served by men of honour and you have ignored it, turned a blind eye to it, this is the consequence of your blindness. When you stay silent you become complicit, as much a cheat as the cheats. Make no bones about it Scottish football is as bent as the gambler playing with a stacked deck. The game is bogey, RIP Scottish fitba.
    Stevie Clark will leave very soon, the sound of bigoted singing, insulting his upbringing, ringing in his ears and who would blame him. Mention foreign referee’s and see with your eyes the consequence of that statement, watch the birds come home to roost.

  • Cartvale88

    Totally agree Mike, I think Muir tonight by his actions allowing Candias to fly through the air with a two footed challenge, totally ignoring it. Kamara being shot In the box by someone, and the Brophy dive.
    The so called compliance officer must take action against Candias and Kamara.
    Admire Clarke for calling out the west of Scotland bigotry at Castle Greyskull, will be interesting to see if the pundits decide it is just sour grapes after he was gubbed, or maybe begin to notice the elephant in the room.
    As for our board they have a responsibility to their employees, to date players have been injured and they sit on the side lines like old women doing their knitting.
    Enough is enough with this shower of knuckledraggers

  • Noel Skytrot

    The game’s done here. Watching the Steve Clarke interview was powerful stuff. He knows that the institutionalized cheating is widespread in our game. It’s about time all the other clubs spoke out, including our own. Ban the lumpen fuckwitted bigots from every ground in Scotland. Get them too fuck, they clearly live in different times from the rest of Scottish civic society. People ask me why I do have huns as friends, there’s the answer.

    • jimmybee

      Noel most other clubs are thankful the huns are there m8 they are no friends of Celtic.
      Only Turnbull Hutton had the guts to call it out a man of true principle and sporting integrity.
      What happened they threatened to burn down his stadium and set fire to his home.
      Did the media give a fuck did others from bigger clubs including ours give a fuck
      Did they fuck.

      • Noel Skytrot

        Hi JBee, I hope yer well pal.

        Something needs to give and the only way it can happen is if supporters do what’s right. I fully understand why you’re doubtful of any change. At least Hutton had integrity unlike the charlatans who are involved in our game. How many Rubicons are crossed before something is done?

  • Noel Skytrot

    Celtic supporters in Valencia are being shot at with rubber projectiles by the Guardia Civilia and the fuckwits among the hun support think that they’re not doing enough, they have nothing but hatred for us. Sad,sad people.

  • jimmybee

    What shit is this from the BBC reporter last night.
    “After just three minutes, Eamonn Brophy broke into the box from the right, bamboozling Joe Worrall, who put an arm around the striker. Down he went. Brophy hammed up the challenge, but despite the exaggeration was unfortunate that Alan Muir did not point to the spot.”
    I mean is it a penalty or not ffs.

  • jimmybee

    More this time from sky on Stevie Clarke.

    Kilmarnock boss Steve Clarke has just gone on an astonishing rant at the sectarian abuse he claims he was subjected to at Ibrox tonight. Says he is thankful every day in life for Chelsea taking him away from the West of Scotland – meaning his children could grow up in England.
    “Astonishing rant at the sectarian abuse he claims” didnt you hear it for yourself ffs.
    Was Kris Boyd an astonishing rant on Sunday and the claims he was subjected too Nah didnt think so.

  • Monti

    Just seen footage of the Bachmann sending off, i don’t think i quite believe my eyes actually.

    It’s shameful what is happening here!

  • jimmybee

    For all the titles we have won this will be the sweetest. For all the cups and trebles this will bring me the most joy.For the fix is in they must be awarded decisions at all costs.
    The media wont report it they are turning a blind eye and it will go on and on till they have succeded in getting them a trophy of some kind.
    I took the decision a couple of years ago never go back to hampden as a small token of my disgust at the sfa. If more of us had done it the message would have been loud and clear. If we stayed out on a cup final day surrounded hampden and let the world know why this would soon have caught the sports writers eyes across the globe.
    But we don’t take action we are just as much to blame as anyone else in the house of cards.
    So we can only hope that the good guys win and that they get humped at pittodrie though there is no way that will happen a replay anyone they do need the money.
    HH

    • Monti

      Jimmybee,
      Yet these fucking referees have a cheek to threaten to quit if we go down tbe road of introducing foreign refs?

      They are shameless these fucks

  • BelfastBhoy

    ‘It was a game that had to be won’

    Former Rangers player and director of football
    Gordon Smith on Sportsound

    Says it all really…

  • BroxburnBhoy

    Anyone at work who is clearly incompetent is let go before they pose a danger or piss off everybody who can do the job. Referees are no different I think. The real question is it incompetence which is consistent no matter what team is playing or is it incompetence that results in decisions going for one team. This can be analyzed through data I am sure. Both cases of incompetence should result in retraining, starting in lowere divisions or even termination. Last night was incompetence that very much favored “Rangers” with two blatantly obviously wrong decisions. Tom English and his pathetic piece about referees today is exactly what I expected and it came right as scheduled. No surprise Tom. For an organization banned from Ibrox the BBC really do follow the Level 5 line 90% of the time. Expect more of the “conspiracy ridicule’ rather than doing the data and trying to understand how these honest mistakes actually pan out.

  • Charlie Saiz

    Said it plenty times already on here of it’s genuine change you want then first and foremost we need to change Celtic.
    A fan owned Celtic would not sit back and let these things go.
    No chance.
    You want to change Scottish Football then the first thing you have to do is change Celtic.
    We need a Board who put Club (That’s a Club in its truest sense and form) and Fans before Finances and Politics.
    Does anyone here seriously think a Fan controlled Celtic would be putting up with the shite we have been putting up with these past 7 years?
    Aye right.
    Telling you all right now if we don’t change Celtic all of your complaints are going to fall on deaf ears.
    The charlatans that control both our game and our “Clubs” -That’s a joke in itself- have absolutely no interest in what you or anyone else wants.
    This is about making money pure and simple.
    You keep taking thousands to away games or 10’s of thousands to Cup games what do you expect?
    These cunts are laughing at you.
    I feel sorry for every Supporter who pays their hard earned into this shit I really do because they are taking you for a mug.
    As for the likes of Tom English?
    GTF ya leeching bastard.
    HH

    • BroxburnBhoy

      Pish! Do you think for a moment that a “fan controlled” Celtic would make any difference – how? The SFA would simply fine and ban Celtic with full backing of UEFA and FIFA. Then we’d have no club – kill celtic to be celtic – utter nonsense and living in La la land

      • Charlie Saiz

        A Fan controlled Celtic Board would have both the access and the compulsion to use the same same Legal Advice as the Current Board.
        In any cases where there is EVIDENCE that any wrong doing has been done or can be proved to have been done could and would be perused through the correct Legal channels.
        For this to happen of course you first have to have an appetite for taking such course of action on.
        Which this Board seems UNWILLING TO DO.

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