Celtic Diary Friday February 15: A Lesson In Management.

Celtic were undone by what appeared , on the surface, to be a better side last night. Another home defeat at the hands of a side who looked far superior in every department is how most of us saw it, and when you add that to the lack of fight in our own team, then the result was fairly inevitable.

Who’s Afraid of the Big Black Bat ? I think we answered that question last night.

The collective of Valencia far outweighed their opposite number at Celtic in ability, organisation and effort, although they really didn’t seem to have to try that hard.

Why was that ?

Why are we having this discussion after yet another European home game that failed to live up to expectations ?

Valencia did their homework, worked out what they had to do, and then went out and did it.

It’s really that simple. By watching videos of Celtic since the break they would have made themselves well aware of what would happen, and how to counter it.

Good coaches come up with a plan.

Good players go out and do it.

 

The first thing they did was put Scott Brown under pressure. He’s the main man at Celtic, and as a result he made a few uncharacteristic errors, a few misplaced passes that put his team mates under pressure, and as a result, the confidence throughout the team was shaken. Other players began to make unforced errors, and thus the rhythm and concentration of the side was disturbed, if not broken.

And while we’re on rhythm..

An observer would note that Celtic are a passing side, and like to play the ball at speed on the deck. As with all pressing sides, they can be a bit physical, and so by overdoing the intensity of a tackle, by falling over “hurt “, the game is stopped, and again, the rhythm is disturbed.

Valencia were quite adept at that.

Danger men ? Forrest and Sinclair faced two defenders each time they were in possession, and the compact Spanish side had someone else covering the two initial combatants.

There simply was no way through playing the way Celtic like to play.

And when they had suckered enough players forward, they simply struck back at pace.

For the first time in living memory, at least two of us on Etims agree on something..

We played the ball across the back maj of the night..played the game in front of Valencia..played their game! Didn’t mix it up..hit a few channels…get them turning..few direct balls. Be aggressive high up. Aye they are good but we were predictable, boring & made it easy 4 them.

Celtic couldn’t handle it. Not many teams could, to be fair.

But at least we could  have tried.

The high point of this European campaign , and the one we had hoped to repeat last night was the win over Leipzig at Celtic Park.

With just five players starting last night who started that game, it was never going to happen.

And only one of them was from the back five. Boyata, who Valencia knew was prone to error..

Brown, Christie and MacGregor failed to deliver as a unit last night, largely because with their route to goal blocked, they were forced to pass behind them, and Valencia moved up in unison, and thus another backards pass, and Valencia moved up..until the Spanish had Celtic where they wanted them.

Celtic do not know how to play against a team that presses back at them. It even happens domestically. Not often, but it happens, and , along with corner kicks and other set plays, perhaps there’s an idea for a couple of training sessions.

A couple of hoofs up the park, towards target man Ollie burke, would at least have meant if possession was lost it would have been lost in the opposing half, instead, Valencia just waited for the inevitable mistake, close to the Celtic goal, and put even more pressure and uncertainty into the hopped ranks.

After the match, manager Brendan Rodgers tried to make us feel better, and hope that none of us noticed that he was largely to blame for the loss, by reading from his pre prepared post European home game script. Only the names have been changed, the pattern, sadly, remains the same..

“I thought we started the game well. We had good control and pressed the game.

“But Valencia are a team who wait on your mistakes, they are very organised and compact. Unfortunately for us we made too many mistakes, especially in the first half, under no pressure.

“When you do that against good teams it kills your momentum and puts you on the back foot. We did that too many times. At this level you can get punished for it. 

“We did it before half-time and then lost a poor goal just after half-time. So the lessons learned at this level are you really have to concentrate.

“You can get away with it domestically sometimes but not at this level against good teams. If you don’t concentrate, you bring pressure onto yourself. So it ended up a disappointing night for us.” 

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Perhaps one way of looking at it is the way Celtic play is superior to the way other Scottish teams play, but the top European sides are better at playing that way.

Its probably just that.

The performance last night was predictable, gone is the passion and fight that rouses the crowd that in turn rouses the players on to greater things.

Maybe thats where we should focus for the next campaign.

Lets do what we’re good at, and not what everyone else is.

 

Spanish sides have beaten English sides in 22 of their last 25 meetings, so the argument about money may not be valid. Indeed, had Celtic paid market value for the loan players in the squad, our own expenditure would be up there with other sides.

Spanish sides have dominated the European competitions over the last few years, and perhaps we shouldn;t be too hard on ourselves. With Valencia unlikely to reach the champions League via their domestic campaign, they may well have decided to focus on the Europa, winning it would guarantee a spot at the top table again.

We shouldn;t be too hard on ourselves, but then again, a kick up the arse wouldn’t go amiss.

There’s still the away leg, although even the most optimistic of us would admit the tie is now pretty much beyond us.

But stranger things have happened. Maybe we should use that game to try something a little different..

 

For now though, reality dictates that the treble treble is the target.

I think we all expected that to be the case.

 

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Mike A

Caption : Er I haven’t a bloody clue what it means, said both of them.

D'Fhinnein Mick

I see Bawwy Bawbag is still at it over the McGregor assault issue. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hysteria-over-rangers-keeper-allan-14000216 Thing is,this particular leg-breaking attempt was on Bawbag’s own nephew. And still he defends the thug who tried to break his teenage nephew’s leg. That’s just shameful,Bawbag. Bawbag behaviour,in fact. Bawbag is about six inches taller than my Uncle Jim,my Dad’s brother. If a huge 6’4″ thug had tried to break my legs when I was a teenager,my 5’4″ Uncle Jim would have bitten the basturt’s balls off and spat them in his face. Having thrown my Dad out of the way to get there first!… Read more »

Noel Skytrot

Mick, he’s a hun, nothing more needs said.

maryhillbhoy

Spot on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Noel Skytrot

Too many errors cost us the game. We’re simply not up to scratch when put up against good footballing sides. As you rightly say Ralph, it’s time to concentrate on the domestic front and try to qualify for the CL next year but that might be a bridge to far.

Bigdunno

Maybe too many Euros cost us the game Noel.

Noel Skytrot

Not spending some cost us the game.

Monti

Noel,
Dinnae talk about ‘ A bridge too far ‘ ….you’ll set Charlie Saiz off.

Noel Skytrot

Hahaaaaa

That was the bridge over the Six Mile Water

D'Fhinnein Mick

CAPTION

Eh,boss-yer no’ sending me tae left-back again?

D'Fhinnein Mick

RALPH

Miles off it last night. Hardly a surprise either.

https://sentinelcelts.com/2019/02/15/flat-track-bullies-and-a-punchers-chance/

Devoy45

Not much more to add except that for once, someone’s 4-4-2 looked state of the art!
Why don’t we try the same against them, with Edouard and Weah up front together?
Hey, sometimes the long ball out from goal is the only thing that can break down a press. I can live with it. We have tall enough targets to make it work. Long balls out to Edouard, Burke and Weah. How we miss Tierney. Last night, we were not outplayed so much as out-thought!
Winning is the Celtic way and sometimes, that involves change and compromise!
Good article Ralph.

rondo52

totally agree re 4-2-4 system. Unlike us , they knew how to operate it effectively. I recall many different systems in the past , liked the attacking 4 2 4 system, could adapt to the defensive 4 4 2 instantly.

Doc

PSG could loan us every attacker they have and we would still play one up front.

Monti

Doc,
Cavani or Mbappe would fulfil that role tho…

Doc

I can only speak for myself but i’ve always been against it and always will be, no matter who implements it. Went into it extensively, on here, during and after the 2014 WC.

Caption….Look Cal, I’ve tried these same tactics in every single European game,because I don’t know anything different, if i just keep doing the same then surley it will work at least once…

D'Fhinnein Mick

KEIGHLEYBHOY

Aye,boss-it disnae take Einstein tae work that one out!

Oh wait,doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results?

Iancelt67

That’s pretty good

Iancelt67

Cap in hand defeat. They were under the cosh in the first 15. Maybe we try and get our concentration levels going for ninety or at least 70 and get a goal or two up. Brown destroyed outlet confidence with his brain snaps. He’s too much of an icon to be criticised though

Alan D

Caption…..BR :I think the Valencia goal is that way,
CmG. Really !!

Iancelt67

Caption
I know broony is old and your doing the work of two men to compensate but you’ll get a breather when the game finishes. I’ve oxygen tanks waiting and paramedics on standby if needed

mcklintop

I don’t get it. We’ve spent days discussing how Burke is a great outlet for us when teams are pressing us high but last night when Valencia were pressing us high we didn’t try to hit Burke. Anyway lets just get this league won and the treble treble sorted.

Marty McKerry

A dose of realism is very much needed. Starting with a strong defence actually defending.

Iancelt67

You didn’t see Valencia doing dodgy pass backs to the goalie, also Sutton is right we don’t have a true hold the ball up centre forward. Maybe the sideway passing is due to Burke or whoever not making the right runs. I don’t understand Rodgers he baffles the fuck out of me. Seems to think it’ll be alright on the night. Bit like ke spinal tap

Monti

Fuck me it’s Mike Bassett lol
Would love to see you talking tactics with Brendan….

Monti

No.

Monti

Iancelt,
They weren’t playing dodgy passes to their keeper because they didn’t need to.

So if you just take the M74, then M6, then take M58 not long ust after Blackpool then you can join me at Everton next season no worries.

puggy67

Come on Desi that’s too depressing

puggy67

Caption: Calmac it’s Bruce Wayne on the bat phone, the millionaire philanthropist who has special powers to help people in trouble. I wish we had one of them…

Iancelt67

It’s not a retirement home for old warhorses it’s our fucking team here. Fucking well pissed off more than the hun game

My headscratching items include Why do we keep Edouard on the bench rather than try him on from the start..hes OUR player and a centre Forward not a loaness winger we are trying to help convert to a front man! Why play the passing from the back game with 2 central defenders who CANNOT pass a ball forward to break the lines. We actually needed someone like Ajer last night ( ignoring Benkovich as injured). Least Ajer triues to make things happen with driving runs through the middle. This sideways going nowhere pips and slippers fitbaw is dreadful and Boyata… Read more »

Monti

Desimond,
Ajer wouldn’t be able to do driving runs v Valencia because he would be dispossessed easily, he runs 70 yards, stops & plays it back twenty yards.

Possibly, but at least his drive forward would have forced valencia to move in on him, therefore freeing up space elsewhere…maybe Christie could have got a touch of the ball if that happened. If Boyata and Jozo cant play forward, why go for that tactic..the ticking the aesthetic football box isnt gonna wash with fans much longer under current chop and change personnel approach..no clear improvement possible over time so why bother etc Lots of talk about rightfully missing Tierney but we also need to bring back big Tom for someone who can take a ball and turn with it… Read more »

Monti

Desi,
I think Benkovic & Ajer would be my first choice picks if everybody is fit, Ajer is more comfortable on the ball than the error stricken & pish Boyata.
Simunovic just can’t convince or nail that position, pity as i love him ( Kenny Miller missiles in the sky ).
I certainly don’t think Brendan get’s everything right, but it isn’t his fault if the players start the comedy passing.
Benkovic, Rogic & Tierney would have made a difference last night…possibly.

Macca

It is absolutely Brendan’s fault that we have comedy passing. These players are not good enough to pass it around at the back so work with what you have. Get it out early, and long if you have to

Monti

Charlie Saiz,
You are out your depth discussing football, stick to playing soldiers with cream mac wearing mannequin friend.

Fud.

Iljas Baker

You are certainly right Charlie. I don’t like to accuse anyone of narcissism but I noticed fairly early in BR’s tenure that he believes he can do wonders with his coaching. Coaching of course is good but you can only do wonders with those that have the potential to be wonderful. Burke for example is only with us because he isn’t wonderful and will probably never be. Ditto most of the team. You need to be pragmatic as you say, work with what you’ve got when you compare it to the opposition not when you compare it to your own… Read more »

Monti

Erm…he lft because we didn’t back him with money!

Izzy is finished at every level..thats why he was in sunshine getting a pension top up.

Im not saying he wasnt rotten but theres a lot more I was expecting from a lot more of the players than from him..

Yet again Brendan has me wondering if its just make it up as you go along…Hayes did ok the other week but duly bumped for a guy that no-one expected Brendan to ever play again after recent mauling.

BJF

Ralph hate to agree with you but it was a lesson in management. In terms of preparation did we scout Valencia, who ever did it keep your dishwashing job you are going to need it. Valencia did their preparation, last night I said onnhete how Brown, Christie and McGregor could all have an off day at the same time. They didn’t Valencia knew their game and nullified them totally. Where was the exhausted team. in 8 th place ( not 5 th BBC pundits, do your homework) that wasn’t firing on all all cylinders? I also said they played 4/4/2… Read more »

Total joke last night – no attack whatsoever, missing a direct dembele and Paddy Roberts who would attach them and get us up the park. This possession play bain/boyata/emilio/brown and then start again is a joke. We are 2-0 down and playing at the back all the time, not the celtic way by any means.

Doc

How would he have done if he was going to receive 40-60 passes, under pressure, and told he can’t clear it, only play short passes to other, under pressure, defenders?

Monti

FFS…..

jimmybee

We only got there because the norwegians done us a favour this team is way short of European class. But tactics deployed by Brendan are shocking. Like at ibrokes he chose not to match up or even put another midfielder in to get a foothold into the match. Same old same old.

Monti

Jimmybee,
PISH….we beat Leipzig or was that Rosenborg to take the credit for that?

Salad Queen

BrEndon can’t change his stype of play, in jock land he can successfully adapt the players. In europe totally different ball game hence how lie well will not give the money. We will stumble over and win 8 in a row with the loan players. So many players leaving in June and signing the elgin city centre half for 25000 will not get us into the champions league. I reckon Steve Clarke will be in the dugout in the summer with a very limited budget. Top team in tarten territory that is our limit. I’m afraid it will have to… Read more »

puggy67

gonny drop the jock land mate – makes you sound like a UKIP dick

rondo52

Totally agree about BR limitations , seen it on several occasions. He appears to struggle when his plan A fails. Steve Clark waiting in the wings. your other points hit the nail on the head.

broxburnbhoy

So Brendan is done it seems for many of you? You think its his tactics or do you think Valencia and PSG and Bayern just have much much better players? I think we may be spoiled and stupid if we think Steve Clarke will lead us to European glory or that Brendan is somehow finished and tactically naïve. FFS get a grip. Neil Lennon is passionate and now a serial failure at his last few clubs including Hibs where his temperament cost him his job and he created a toxic workplace. If you think Steve Clarke or Neil lennon will… Read more »

Monti

Charlie Saiz,
Bleat bleat bleat…
Give solutions ffs?

Monti

It’s SCOTLAND, ya prick!

Monti

Fucking clowns on here having a go at Brendan….fucking idiots!

The Cha

Absolutely.

The usual suspect has probably had a stauner since last night while spewing his usual bile.

Monti

Cha,
Season ticket holders tho….more educated than the rest…

Cough.

Monti

Cha,
Wouldn’t notice 🙂

The Cha

European targets:

CL Group 2 years out of 3 – success
EL k/o 2 years out of 3 – success
Beat ‘next level’ teams Anderlecht, Zenit, Leipzig – success
£100m added to coffers – success

If we want to kick it on to the next level then we know what we need to do BUT this is against our operating model so the only likelihood, if we don’t maintain the current standard, is no k/o games, no group stages, no £10s of mils, empty seats, cutbacks etc.

broxburnbhoy

spot on Cha

Monti

Yep,
7 trophies out of 7 certainly does speak volumes!

Monti

” judged in Europe “? Ok you say the manager is inept tactically in Europe…
How did he get two draws off Man City, then?

flinker

No Ajer = bleeding goals.
Check it out.
Only how I read it

Doc

You might be onto something there. Some centre back stats:

%won conc p/g
ajer 71 0.50
benkovic 61 0.43
boyata 72 0.64
hendry 50 0.93
simunovic 65 0.85

Doc

That worked as intended, clearly.

The Cha

Caption “Hey McGregor, it says here you’re the new Xavi, how about playing like it rather than setting up goals for them?”

rondo52

told you before boss , we shouldn’t play hangman during the game. That will happen later.

Weered

I listened to the first half last night and switched off when the first goal was scored…sounded like so many other recent European and evenings recently…promised so much and delivered so little

CELTIC JUST CAN’T COMPETE AT THE UPPER ENDS OF EUROPEAN LEVELS.

AS THE GAME OF FOOTBALL CURRENTLY STANDS…

TO BE THE BEST
YOU MUST INVEST…

Monti

Weered, It’s not rocket science m8, which you would think make it easier for Charlie Saiz to grasp? When you have two football teams, one is clearly better than the other & regularly plays high tempo, high quality opposition, if that team is of a mind to beat you, they normally will. Yes we have beaten the best teams over the years but we had to carry a lot of luck to get these results. What we are reading today is the opinions of ‘ supporters ‘ who think we should be ‘ taking these teams ‘ like Valencia, based… Read more »

Weered

Monti…Agreed on every point.
When your team is being played off the park then you have to call it as such. T
The manager normally doesn’t get a kick of the ball for 90 minutes… Then it’s his turn to kick balls 😉

Monti

It’s not about how much, it’s about the board driving through & dekivering his first choice targets.
Valencia had Piccini at right back last night, a player who was reported to be close to signing for us, Lawwell wouldn’t do it & we now have the Dortmund third or fourth choice RB.

Weered

C S… first and foremost Brendan has to have to have an in depth team capable of slaughtering each SPL team week in week out. I don’t know how much he might have to spend on that task, probably not that much…
then progress in Europe… the sky’s the limit after that…Money wise…probably squillions

Noel Skytrot

Yer bang on Weered, we have absolutely wonderful facilities, a set of fans who make European nights so special that in my humble opinion, its unmatched in Europe. What we lack is a wee bit of dosh being spent to enable us to compete against other European sides that have quality.

puggy67

Now the Peolpe’s Front of Judea aint going to like this but there is only one way to get to regular last 16 in the CL. Sell the club to an oligarch, you know an Abramovich type, some on here hate the board and brnad them criminals so that shouldn’t be a problem. Should it?

Monti

Puggy,
I’d rather never play in Europe again than do that.

Signed, Naughteus maximus

Monti

Will never have a problem being beaten off a better team, that is what happened last night, nothing more, nothing less.

Valencia brought Gameiro & Guedes on as substitutes, probably about €90m worth….but we are expecting IZZY to cope?

Lol.

If some will listen, our problem is in the boardroom NOT the dressing room!

Doc

Their MOTM, last night, was the Russian guy that cost them zero.

Monti

Doc,
When you look at his wage i think you’ll find he is costing them quite a bit.

Doc

Looked into it: he’s on loan right now and will be signed at the end of the season for €7m (£6.15m). His current wage is reportedly €25k (£22k) per week with his contract, next season, it will rise to €35 (£31k) per week.

Revenue from most recent accounts:
Valencia – €101m (£89m)
Celtic – £101m

They spend their money on players, we either spend ours on disco lights or don’t spend it at all.

Monti

Doc,
Well said!

Doc

Charlie, i’m not suggesting spending money just for the sake of it, but it should be acknowledged that we have the finances to outspend opponents like Valencia.

Once again, i’m not one of these ‘St Brendan’ guys, I hate the formation and think the vast majority of his signings are nowhere near good enough but the guy has won the domestic treble and deserves support from the board. What happened in the summer was a disgrace and if the board are unwilling to back a successful manager, then who are they willing to back?

Doc

reply stolen

Iljas Baker

I see where you’re coming from Monti but it wasn’t just being beaten by a better team, it was the manner of the beating. Why keep trying to pass out from the back when it’s not working in fact is causing problems? And how come so many players had an off-day? This was a competition over two legs and we had a home advantage but we didn’t have the tactics to make a fist of it. Remember we got beaten by Hibs Hearts and Rangers not because they have better players but because of their tactics. So don’t discount tactics,… Read more »

Iancelt67

I actually feel bad running broonie down he did a couple of good things not entirely his fault he was spotted as the lynchpin and swamped because they did their homework. On another note I thought the ref was superb. What a free edging thing is to see a proper ref in Scotland

Iancelt67

Also think that tierney would’ve got to their forward for the second goal. Izaguirre lost the man badly here

Iancelt67

Refreshing not free edging remind me to proofread posts

Iancelt67

Don’t think Rodgers is beyond reproach. We seem to have the same discussion after most games in Europe . Don’t buy into them being so superior. I don’t think they were, not enough to be spooked by them. Not Barca or juve. Run of the mill la logs team with capable players. Rodgers puts the team out there he’s got our only true forward on the bench with a winger up front. He but a kid on instead of our only forward at ibrox. If nothing else we are allowed to be at least puzzled by his choices

Iancelt67

La liga ffs

rondo52

Totally agree about BR limitations , seen it on several occasions. He appears to struggle when his plan A fails.

Monti

PISH

Macca

Not pish on the evidence to date. Brendan not done anything in Europe ever…

The Cha

Brendan’s Euro record:
– CL Group 2 years
– EL k/o 2 years
– £100m revenue
– notable scalps; Aderlecht(a), Zenit, Leipzig

Anyone who doesn’t consider that a success is doesn’t understand what success in modern football looks like.

Monti

Macca,
Bollocks!

Brendan has given us two seasons of fucking joy, never been seen before at our ground!

Appreciate it & celebrate it…..embrace it, get right behind Brendan!

Weered

A slightly different era I’d suggest…

Weered

A slightly different financial era I’d suggest…

PeteCon

Caption: “Here’s the plan for the second leg. In the name of the father……,”

jrw

It seemed to me to be clear after about 15 minutes that we weren’t going to have a good day as after that we never remotely looked like scoring. Folks here have flagged some of the reasons: – we couldn’t cope with their high pressing game (they did their job throughout and recognised that by never giving your opponents a minute’s peace they will soon make a mistake)Insisting that you must always play the ball out to feet from almost the goal line is inviting trouble – hoofing the thing down the park now and again has its value too… Read more »

Iancelt67

Good post

I keep reading about Brendan Rogers
mismanagement of the team last night.

An Old proverb comes to mind…
You can’t make a silk purse from a sows ear…

FFS… What part of football history are you living in…

Monti

Weered,
They expect James Forrest to be like Jinky & run rings around their entire team at will!

Weered

Monti… yep…And there was only ever one Caesar

The Cha

Excellent stuff, just the usual suspects girning the usual suspects. Not a single criticism of the Great (Green and) White Hopes, McGregor and Christie, who are supposedly going to lead us to European glory for years to come. The former (Iniesta/Xavi comparisons etc) was responsible for the first goal and may have also had a “hand” in the second given how many times he gave the ball away, when not under the same pressure as Brow. If any EPL scouts were looking in and could get the pair for £10m they’d pass and happily spend more on McGinn. Which brings… Read more »

Greenheart

Caption – ok cal, what’s your bet? Eh stick me down for two goals, over 2.5 corners, over 2 bookings and a wee kid nicks a baw…

Doc

Same performance from us last night, fed up going on about our ‘damage limitation’ formation and ‘fanny-about at the back’ game.

Caption: The black armband is for our European campaign.

Benjamin Lynch

I put up a message on Celtic Noise about this, but Valencia is a beatable team. Their wages are only £9m more than ours, and our turnover is actually higher than theirs. The difference is that they are used to playing at a high level against Spanish opponents (drew Barcelona 2-2 at Camp Nou their last away fixture) and had the belief that they could do a job at Celtic Park. And they did! Celtic’s loss is down to individual mistakes. On the first goal Izzy played the goal scorer on side. On the second, Simunovic was defending a nasty… Read more »

Monti

BL,
…..and Disco lights….

Benjamin Lynch

Monti, the disco lights are a non-issue IMO. There was an underlying issue with the flood lighting at the stadium and UEFA standards which required Celtic to upgrading the lights. Once they were committed to doing that, spending a few extra quid to make it a better experience for fans was a sensible decision and not one that was a significant incremental expenditure.

Monti

BL,
I think it’s shit & not Celtic m8
Just my opinion, i’d take them out today!

Monti

Charlie Saiz,
Not more concerned, just questioning their addition.

BJF

Ian right on about Brendan not being beyond reproach still our best manager in the past 40 years though. The other thing, I moaned because the referee didn’t give us things I wanted but in fact he was very good, tried to let the game flow though Valencia weren’t for letting that happen. Brave words coming from our from the manager so ok let’s evaluate the tie over boghbtounds and see if Celtic have a bit of fight in them. Doubt seriously that Brendan is going anywhere that old chestnut comes up every summer, just daft talk.

Monti

Haha ” a weak SPFL “?
Why was it weak then?

Salad Queen

At 2 down still playing tippy tappy pish from the back. Shoud have been route one and 3 or 4 at the front line.
Hope we go with at least 2 up front next week for the whole game.

Cartvale88

BR was culpable last night, sometimes you have to change when plan A does not work, he seems to believe playing the ball from the back and one up front works. However we have dead weights in ur defence Boyata was half asleep,as for Simo, totally out of his depth. Izzy made the mistake for the first goal, but Boyata and Simo were at fault for ball watching. Our midfield was closed down, Valencia also went to ground at even opportunity,. Europe over the last few seasons appears to be a bridge to far, teams like AEK, Valencia, are beatable.… Read more »

Benjamin Lynch

Cartvale88, I’m not sure BR had the wrong tactics. A more direct route would have seen Valencia control a lot more of the possession, and given the way they moved the ball last night they probably would have scored 1-2 more goals with an additional 10-15 minutes of possession. The issue, I think, is that Celtic isn’t used to being pressured like Valencia presses us last night. Few teams in the SPL even attempt it, and fewer still have the skill to execute that game plan without being ripped to shreds by our superior domestic talent. In my mind, Rangers… Read more »

jimmybee

Izzy made the mistake for the first goal bit harsh. Calms gave the ball away cheeky in the first place Boyata is sleeping and could have intercepted if he had been on his toes. Izzy only guilty of not being aware of the line.

Monti

Charlie Saiz,
When were we ever a GREAT side on the European scene, Lisbon & at times in the ‘ 70’s aside?

It’s a myth.

Monti

I think your angle is limited, you have an agenda against Brendan & it comes across quite clearly. That interests me, you claim to be a Celtic fan but you have a chip on your shoulder when it comes to a man who is breaking record after record? The man has not been given the tools to go a step higher i.e.european football. Castagna Piccini McGinn….just three of the managers top targets, all or any of these guys would have lifted the quality of the team & helped the guys already there. The board are not showing ambition, they are… Read more »

Monti

No you fucking have, it’s quite clear!

Celtic mikey

We are the stJohnstone’s of European football.
In 4 days it’s a complete role reversal.
I can understand our current standing in Europe but misplaced passing,few shots on goal, lack of fight, no subs at half time, no long ball to rough them up, being pressed and not changing tactic. Not even a simple act of swapping the wingers over for a change. Only profession where millionaires can’t work out a solution to a problem.

Monti

IN BRENDAN WE TRUST…..SACK THE BOARD!

Cartvale88

Lenny had a plan B as Chesney Benjamin, sometimes two up front with a long ball works, think Samaras, Lenny used that tactic on more than one occasion. BR believes we can play through a team, which means if they play high pressing football you can lose the ball. They may have scored more goals, but at least we would have given them a fright. They had studied how we played and every time Forrest or Sinclair had the ball two men marked them. The defence as usual were pedantic when they had the ball, at least Bain is better… Read more »

Benjamin Lynch

No arguments here Cartvale88. Simunovic and Izzy were only in the squad due to injuries to Benkovic & KT, (to say nothing of forward planning during the transfer window!). Brown is still the heart and soul of the team, but it’s abundantly clear he doesn’t have the legs to play 90 minutes at that intensity multiple times per week anymore. Father Time is catching up to Broony, and BR would be wise to give him proper recovery time each week and pick his spots for inclusion in the squad rather than making him an automatic starter each week. I do… Read more »

Monti

We didn’t score 3 at the Etihad, we scored once!

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