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Celtic Diary Friday January 18: SFA Kick VAR Into Touch

With  controversy surrounding the piss poor performances of Scottish referees of late, everyone got round the table in Perth yesterday to sort it all out.

John Beaton wasn’t there, he later said that while on the road to the meeting, he saw the sign for Perth but decided to take no action. (Thanks to Fred Colon on twitter ).

Actually, he was..here he is arriving..

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All the managers of all the clubs were there, with the exception of Steve Clarke and Martin Canning. They were having their hair done, or their nails, or anything else rather than sit in a room with people who they may feel have been less than fair to their clubs on the park over the last few months.

 

The headlines will tell us that VAR, the system to help referees avoid piss poor performances is on the way.

If you look at what was actually said however, it becomes clear that it isn’t.

SFA chief executive Ian Maxwell chaired the metting and he said after wards;

“It was good to get the managers, officials and the association together in the same room.

“There is a real appetite to fully investigate VAR, the managers see the benefits of it

“This is something that between ourselves and the SPFL we will investigate it further.

 

“I think Scottish football can afford it and ultimately it will come down to a club decision.

“The SPFL have an amount of money and most of that is distributed to the clubs so if there is an element which has to be taken to cover the cost of VAR then that’s a decision that will be made.

“The managers were very positive about it tonight.

“John Fleming and I have already had a conference call with IFAB, who essentially own VAR and implement it on behalf of FIFA.

“We will now have to produce a fully costed model because there are different ways to implement it.

“We want to get that as soon as we can, IFAB have said to speak to similar sized nations and hear about their experience of it.

“It’s something we want to get on the table as quickly as we can.

“It’s a long-term project, it’s not a quick fix and needs to be fully understood by everyone involved.

“You need to see what you can use it for and what you can’t, so there is a training element to it which takes around 12 months.

“It’s not a quick fix but it would definitely be worth it in the long run.

“There were also discussions on full-time referees and the decision making processes, but VAR was the main thing.”

“Fully investigate”…”Not a quick fix “…

The key point he made was that it would take twelve months to train someone to use it. Presumably that includes his referees learning the laws of the game as well, something which they have stubbornly resisted up to this point.

Effectively they are going to ring someone and ask how much it is . Then they’ll say they are shopping around, weighing up the pros and cons, before finally announcing that its too much hassle, doesn’t provide value for money and it would be unfair to place financial demands on the clubs or the SFA at this difficult time.

Neil Lennon spoke on behalf of the managers who were present..

“It was very productive.

“The most unanimous decision amongst the referees and managers was on VAR.

“The referees felt it would be a great help for them and the managers as well want it introduced in some sort of form. 

“But it takes a while. John Fleming was telling us that it takes almost a year for the referees to be trained up on it so it could take a bit of time.

“But it was very very productive. The atmosphere was very respectful with a lot of debate and humour.

“There were no voices raised and everyone came out feeling better about things.

“Everyone got a chance to speak and Clare Whyte the compliance officer was there too and she was very impressive.

“John Fleming and Ian Maxwell were there too and it was a very worthwhile exercise.

“I think in terms of relationships with managers and referees, Kevin, Andrew and John got their message across and we got our message across.

“There has to be a level of respect for the match officials from all of us.

“It was agreed we as managers should take more responsibility for that aspect, which is quite right.”

Its the first time he’s spoken about referees and not received a ban.

I don’t think I’d be too far from the truth if I thought that Lennon really wanted to say..

Well, there’s a Thursday afternoon I’ll never get back..”

The referees will be on their best behaviour for a few weeks now, until they spot a chance to put Celtic out of the Cup or have a real influence towards April on the outcome not so much of the title, but of the earning of a place that guarantees European football next season.

Of course, if there is even the remotest possibility that one particular club can win the league, we will be introduced to all manners of differing interpretations of the laws of the game.

Again.

Its all about taking the heat off Beaton, who has been exposed for what he is. I’d be surprised and disappointed if Brendan Rodgers hadn’t called him out at the meeting, which may explain all the feelgood chatter afterwards, and I’ll be surprised and disappointed if he gets another Celtic game this season, as it would just re open a debate that the SFa are clearly trying to shut down with their vague VAR promises.

The only person to point out the obvious on the whole mess is Davie Hay, former Celtic player and manager…

I don’t care whether referees are fulltime or whether they are part-time. It would just be nice to have good referees.

On social media just now there’s a bit of a fad where one places a picture of oneslef now next to a picture taken ten years ago, to illustrate change.

Its been adapted by Willie67, on twitter.. and it sums the whole referee crisis up perfectly..

 

Ten years ago…

 

And now…

 

VAR isn’t going to solve anything, even if it does get the go ahead, as it will be operated and controlled by the SFA.

They, and their referees are the problem, and as they are not going to sack the cheats and bring in honest and fair replacements who are allowed to explain their decisions, then nothing will be any different ten years from now.

And anyone who doubts that might want to look at this email, which was apparently doing the rounds at the Lanarkshire Referees Association at the time when Paul Larkins expose “Anyone but Celtic ” was about to hit the stands…

Some have suggested the “Brian ” in the email is Brian McGinlay, a referee from years ago who was not noted for fairness or transparency. But he did make the headlines once for another reason…

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The question of where football will be has been discussed on a forum for fans of Scotlands newest club, and they’ve shown yet again that irony can be pretty ironic sometimes..

Celtic in denial ?

 

We’re about halfway through the transfer window, and its probably fair to say that around half of the business is done. Anything else in the pipeline will be delayed until the merry go round starts towards the end of the opening.

The players who have a few options, which could include Celtic, will be considering them, and some clubs will not release some players until they have replacements sorted out.

So, take a deep breath and relax. We can always have a moan later if it doesn’t all work out.

The manager confirmed what we all pretty much know anyway.. with boyata and Benkovic now staying until the summer, he’s not all that bothered about bringing in a central defender.. reading between the lines, it appears he’s missed out one the ones he wanted and has decided to make do and mend..

“I think that will be very difficult to do that this month,” 

“To be brutally honest, if we were to bring in someone of the quality we require they would want to play. There are positions we’ll look at but that is one where a couple of our key players will move on and will need to be replaced.

“Obviously, we have young Kris Ajer and Jozo Simunovic already here. It’s an area of the team we will find it tough to strengthen in January but it’s a must to do that in the summer.

“It’s a possibility that we will spend more in the next couple of weeks. We’ve brought in a couple of loans and a young boy with potential. I’m not sure – it’s down to availability and also to what’s affordable from the club’s perspective.

“But I think we’ll look to add to our squad. There are also a few lads we’ll be sending out on loan but there are still key areas we’ve been looking to strengthen over a period of time. 

“We hope to do some more business if we can but there’s nothing to add to the speculation. Ya Ya Toure? Well, his brother’s here but he’s not one we’re looking at.

“Scott McTominay is a talented young player but there’s nothing to add to that and the same goes for James McCarthy. Agents will strategically throw out a name to stick in the papers but then I’ll get a call from them asking me if I’m interested in the player because they read that I was; you know the game.”

He was speaking at the press conference ahead of tomorrows Scottish cup tie with Airdrie, which incidentally was discussed by the SFA after all the managers had left the room yesterday after their back scratching and knob fiddling get together in Perth.

You’ll be pleased to know that they decided that this game was too soon and therefore too risky to try to influence, although don’t be surprised if Airdrie get a man sent off and Celtic get a penalty fairly early on.

Rodgers gave a quick run down on who’s available for the game..

“Both Timothy and Oliver will be in the squad,” 

They’ve only been here a couple of weeks and they’re on first name terms already..

“Oliver has been training and playing away because there is no winter break down south and Timothy has also looked good. [Vakoun Issouf] Bayo isn’t in the country yet. He is still sorting out all of the paperwork and, hopefully, will be with us by the weekend.” 

He’s still signing autographs.

The support at his former club love him, and he’s spent a couple of days saying cheerio.

The last player to command such repsect from the club he left to join Celtic was Paul Lambert, when Dortmund fans showed their appreciation with a good luck banner, and the player responded with this..

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Rodgers then moved on to players who won’t be available, and ramped up the fear over Keiran Tierneys health..

“He’s not fit,”

“He’s still with the medical team and hopefully over the next few weeks we will see where we are at. There’s no timescale, no. Will he need an op? I’ve not been advised of that yet by the medics. We will wait and see but the pain is less than it was.

“The Valencia game is too far ahead to say. We’ll just have to see over the next few weeks.”

If it is Osteitus Pubis, as has been suggested, it may not be too late to treat with rest if there is definite need for surgery.

Here’s hoping that surgery will not be required.

For now, we’ll just have to wait until Kris Boyd tells us whats happening..

 

Scott Allan has gone to Hibernian, from Celtic, in case you’d forgotten he was still here. Well, he’s signed a pre contract, but may yet go on loan there for the rest of this season. He might as well.

 

The football actually returns tonight, Cowdenbeath host “rangers “, and its on the telly.

Will the Gers fans sing their new song ? Read this to the tune of Nena’s eighties synthpop classic “99 Red Balloons ”

In the meantime though, they’ll have to make do with the eleven on the pitch..

 

It’s Friday again, already, and that means we can tell you who has earned the title of Etims

Knob of the Week 

Again, its been a busy week for those within our society who make us shake our heads in disappointment , and no one should be shaking their heads in disappointment more than the people of Aberdeen South who elected Ross Thomson to be their MP..he’s that bad the SNP want him to be reselcted to contest the next election..

TORY party members are being urged by SNP activists not to ditch their contro- versial MP. A senior insider in Aberdeen said last night he was not surprised local Conservatives were looking to replace Ross Thomson with another candidate to fight the next General Election

“It makes sense from their point of view, but from our point of view we want him to stay,” a leading SNP figure in the city told The National.

“He’s one of our best assets for the next Westminster election. We want to take Aberdeen South back and it would be a shame if the Tories got rid of him before we do.We urge the Tories to keep Ross Thomson.”

His partner in crime, Douglas Ross is a Scottish referee as well as a Conservative  MP , and if those two, and their eleven Westminster colleagues had voted in the interests of the people of the country they represent, and not according to a London directive at the No confidence vote on Wednesday, we’d be looking at a general election  just now and the end of the cruel and hapless May regime.

But no, the fear of losing their own jobs was deemed more important than thousands of others losing theirs.

There are thirteen of them, but Thomson wins the award because, well, he looks and acts more like a knob than the others.

Well done to him, this weeks Etims

Knob of the Week

 

Ross Thomson has been accused of gross insensitivity

 

Caption competition…yesterday we studied this..

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Controversial…

VooDude January 17, 2019 at 10:22 am · Edit · Reply →

Caption: Some of Rangers ‘players’ of the year, 2000 – 2012 

Today…

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Oh, and those of you considering making ill informed and distasteful comments about Phil the Greek, the husband of her majesty, need to consider this..he’s 97, and doing fine for a man of such advanced years.

He’s clearly still capable of being in charge of a vehicle , as thats the first car accident he’s been involved in since the one in Paris, 1997.

 

 

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Noel Skytrot
5 years ago

VAR means nothing as it’s still the cabal that’s running the show. We’ll still get fucked over.
BR and NL must have been really uncomfortable sitting in with all the goat shaggers up in Perth.

Caption…indicate you Nazi cunt.

Pat Higney
5 years ago
Reply to  Noel Skytrot

Agree mate, as long as it is the same guys reffing it, it doesn’t matter if it is live or a replay, they will still try to subvert!

Noel Skytrot
5 years ago
Reply to  Pat Higney

Probably, Pat. After all the carry on with Beaton and the SFA we had a chance to fire a cannonball at them by refusing to attend that meeting last night, but no, the board are shitebags and the SFA stitched them up a peach with their highly polished PR operation. Another thing, as the transfer widow starts moving to a close it was disheartening to read BR commenting on affordability and availability in regards to new signings that are of good quality.

Stevie D
5 years ago
Reply to  Pat Higney

Try?

TicToc
5 years ago
Reply to  Stevie D

Possibly the most relevant comment I’ve ever seen, especially when using just 3 letters.
NB, Stevie, I regret my part in previous spats with you; I’ve noticed, from many of your recent comments, that you’re clearly a dyed-in-the-wool Tim and a decent guy all round.
I’d kinda intended to stop commenting on here as I don’t want to be in ‘fights’ with fellow Tims, but Brendan’s comment was just so fucking dim…..and here I go again. I’ll never shirk from telling the truth as I see it but I’ll keep in mind that, outside of proven fact, everything on here is reduced to opinion and conjecture.
Anyway, Stevie, I offer a genuine apology.
HH

Stevie D
5 years ago
Reply to  TicToc

Apology accepted TicToc. And I realise I’m often quite opinionated and maybe don’t afford people the right to disagree on matters. Big of you to come on and offer the offer the olive branch. Cheers mate.

TicToc
5 years ago
Reply to  TicToc

Stevie, I’m not getting responses from eTims and only found this as I tried (‘try’ed) if you relate to my original response to your comment. Anyway, as some English cunt, a ba’rd (from Stratford-upon Avon) once said, “All’s Well That Ends Well”. 🙂 I’m happy we can drop this shit.
We’re very opinionated, immovable, heart-felt Tims on here, so there’s a start. I’ve even excelled myself in emptying 7 bottles of wine (if this Prosecco shit counts as one it’s eight), I’ll guesstimate about 30cans of draught Guinness, £4 for four at Aldi and £9.00 for eight at Tesco.
The wine’s been all kinds from SE Aussie Shiraz but all red until this shit, bubbly stuff of desperation.
Anyway, there’s also been half a dozen bottles of HW’s vintage cider 500ml (8.2%)
16 750 ml bottles of HW Vintage but at 7.3%
Craic is that I’d not had a drink (for a full week) until the funeral on Thursday….and then….. Today (it’s now yesterday) I watched the game, I commented earlier what I generally thought. Anyway, fairly easy progress to the last 16. Truth told, I don’t give a fuck about the Scottish Cup this season, it’s the League for me and for obvious reasons.
Anyway, I’m for ma kip, as I was about 4 hours ago…….
Finally? I reckon if we all got together in a pub we’d have a fuckin’ riot of fun. Ye canny explain in the written word whit an expression can purvey with just a glance. I’ve some on here I like (without proof). I’ve some on here I dislike, (without proof too)
But I reckon, stood around a bar, we’d a’ gravitate tae one undeniable force, that force of being a TIM. So, I leave you with that happy thought.
HH

Stevie D
5 years ago
Reply to  Noel Skytrot

Exactly Noel if they can ignore everything the whole world can see on TV why would they have a problem ignoring evidence on VAR? They have no shame and VAR won’t alter things one wee bit. It’s going to take a Johnny Thomson incident before anybody bothers their arse about even looking at the corruption in the Scottish game.

Noel Skytrot
5 years ago
Reply to  Stevie D

I’m at the,end of my tether with that mob.

YPF. Lol

Pat Higney
5 years ago

Caption : ‘That’ll teach the feckers to display a ‘Ban Fox Hunting’ sticker in their rear view mirror’

Pat Higney
5 years ago

Caption (edit) ‘That’ll teach the feckers to have a ‘Ban Fox Hunting’ sticker in their rear window’

Uralius
5 years ago

Caption: It wasn’t me. Ntcham was driving and Odsonne was in the back.

5 years ago

Caption: I thought she was just some visitor from bongo bongo land, turns out Hewitts bastard has gone and made her one of the family! Anyway, must dash – here comes her Kia now.

Stevie D
5 years ago
Reply to  Doc1888

Brilliant!

matt
5 years ago
Reply to  Doc1888

soon to be (the rangers) away games transport

Mike Annis
5 years ago

Caption: Jump in lass, One is off to see Her-Indoor’s 11 get pumped by Celtic. I’ve given the officials a peasant shooting trip at Balmoral to make sure.

As for the clear the air meeting, much jolly about nothing. The Managers shown to be toothless and pliant. What are they afraid of or what does thecSFA hold over our Chairman?

5 years ago

Caption: phil – ” It wasn’t my fault, it was the car full of slantey eyed gooks in the seven seater Hyundai”

5 years ago

CAPTION
dame judi dench I presume ? I’m looking fr my sidekick grommet have you seen him?

5 years ago

It’s not VAR that needs investigating, it’s the SFA, David Murray, Campbell Ogilvie, John Beaton & the Celtic board!

5TB
5 years ago

Caption;

Yes, correct, Lizzie is giving one a munch.

Puggy67
5 years ago

Caption: Judy Dench tells her ‘Queen Victoria shagged a ghillie boy’ joke.

5 years ago

Caption: Phil – ” Mornin mam, sheriff Beaufort T.Justice at your service, have you seen my bandit “?

Bognorbhoy
5 years ago

Caption…

You is well dench judi…but careful you don’t turn that golf cart over…

Mike
5 years ago

Caption, No Mr. James, I’m not Phil Macgholibain, I’m
The King of the swingers, oh the jungle VIP,
I’ve reached the top and had to stop,
and that’s what’s bothering me,
Oh scoobedoo, I wanna be like yoo-hoo-ooh.

Mike
5 years ago

99 Baboons perhaps. No VAR, no chance.

Uralius
5 years ago

So we’re getting to line up a Ntcham replacement. Good Ntcham struggles under the press and in big games.

5 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

Pish!

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  Uralius

Absolute nonsense, he’s been a great player for us and is an out and out star, which is why he’s coveted.

It’s laughable that players valued £15m+ can’t cut it amongst the dross of Scottish football.

We should be increasing the quality in our team not reducing it.

We have the money to do that and, if we don’t, then it’s purely down to shortsighted greed.

5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

The Cha,
Exactly my point.
If his big game record is observed, quite simply, he can be depended upon!

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

If we consistently sell our best “foreign” players before we need to and replace with inferior players, how long before the best of the home growing crop decide they’re better elsewhere?

The likes of Macari, Hay, Dalglish, Collins, McClair etc didn’t stick around when they could see the writing on the wall and, I doubt, Tierney, McGregor, Christie will be any different, if we can afford players to match their ability but choose not to.

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Christie, homegrown, in the same way as Armstrong, who didn’t stick around for long?

We’ve had a shocking record with homegrown players before the current crop.

Forrest is about the only one from the last 10 years and, lest we forget, the Lawwell/Deila axis was prepared to let him go for nothing. Now valued at £20m and instrumental in our fabulous success over past 2.5 years.

Before that I can only think of McGeady and Maloney neither of whom stuck around.

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

It’s meaningless if you don’t factor in revenue and any resulting profit/loss.

The Huns’ expenses are a fraction of ours so your (ill) logic is that they’re performing better.

I cannot concur and I’m sure Mr Micawber would to.

Una
5 years ago

Caption

I seen the sign for lizzies creek and just went for it

5 years ago

Fuckwit^

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Oi, less of that, I’ve never read him being witty.

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

“Factual”? Now, that’s quite witty.

Tenaka Khan
5 years ago

Caption – “Fuxxake Phil… you got me in the eye again !!”

Mick
5 years ago

Caption ” ooooooo one has just filled ones colostomy bag again”.

5 years ago

She was the Princess of our karts!

Cortes
5 years ago
Reply to  desimond

Superb!

Iancelt67
5 years ago

Caption
Fancy a bit of jig a jig Judi ? Lizzie’s all dried up erm i mean caught up at the moment. It’ll be our little secret

charlie
5 years ago

phil sais tae his gatekeeper am a gon oot or cmmmin hame hen

Mike
5 years ago

I wouldn’t sell Scott Allen to Hibs, this season, why should we be helping another SPFL team. Much as I love Lenny, the thought of helping Putrid Petrie would drive me nuts. After the McGinn saga, no, no way, never, tell them to GTF…

5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Mike,
There was no McGinn saga m8, just Lawwell not moving quick enough with a serious attempt to sign the player.

We lost him due to Lawwell.

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Well Lawwell is deserved of his criticism but putrid, the continuity myth backer should not get away with it either. If he is the new President of the SFA then God help us. But neither should we be helping other competitors in our league, as Auldheid says “no more Mr. nice guy”. Celtic have always helped other SPFL teams with loanee’s ets. our away support, ensures other clubs get the green pound. Our manager is tuned in to helping his fellow managers in any way that he can, but as a club, we get no respect for what our club does for everyone else.. and no acknowledgement of it either. Its great that we do so, but it was always ingrained into me, treat others as they treat you, know your enemy and act accordingly…

5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Mike,
Well said!

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

I understand what you’re saying but Scott Allan is simply taking up a training and, no doubt, occupying the medics so take anything from Hibs (£50K?) and free up the space for one of our young guns.

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Keeping the fifty K. would be the best money we ever didn’t spend. 😉 Krazy Logic, but you know what I mean. I wouldn’t spit on the denier, even if he self combusted. So why assist him?

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

I’m looking it from our POV and looking to clear a space in our first team squad for one of our youngsters.

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Every time that I look at putrids pus, it reminds me of Reg. VAR dee. He should be on the buses preferably the one leaving for China.. or the slow boat..

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

We can do what we choose to do, sell or keep its our choice. Where he goes is irrelevant, really, so we could sell our best players to the Huns, just to get them off the wage bill? that’s just stupid, not common sense, at all.

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

“We need to reduce our wage bill”, do we? selling a player who costs probably 5k a week, that’s going to make a huge difference, is it?

So we sell a player for next to nothing to a competitor do we, how the fuck does that make sense? What happens if he scores or sets up a goal against us that costs us points. Once again you make out that what you say is fact but the truth is, just because you say it, doesn’t make it right.
So it is relevant where he goes, usually if a player goes out on loan, one of the criteria is they do NOT get loaned out to a competitor, is that not correct? So it most certainly is relevant..

TC
5 years ago

Caption- Phil the Greek.. so is this your normal dogging spot?

Tim Buffy
5 years ago

Caption: “For f**ck’s sake, Philip. How many times have I told you to use your bus pass?”

Jinkylarrson
5 years ago

Caption… where can one buy a Lanarkshire V.A.R.

5 years ago
Reply to  Jinkylarrson

At Reg V.A.R.dy Motherwell.

5 years ago

Caption: Phil – ” Where’s the oars in this thing “?

iBhoy
5 years ago

Caption: “Nice try karma, nice try”.

broxburnbhoy
5 years ago

Caption: Don’t worry the only witness to this crash is John Beaton …. and we all know he sees nothing!

Mike
5 years ago

The Video Assistant Referee. Footballs first use of technology to reach more correct decisions. It only intervenes during a match when the officials have made a clear and obvious error. A close offside decision is the most common reason, but not for the like of shirt pulling etc. Penalties, a straight red card for violent tackles but not for second yellows. The VAR operators can watch the match in a remote location, i.e. the local Orange or Masonic Hall. They are Miked up to the match officials. From over 1000 games viewed the level of accuracy increased from cough 93% to 99% or how much was in the brown envelope. A four man team of VAR of qualified officials can operate the system. “Video killed the football star”…

Mike
5 years ago

Cherish is a word that’s seldom used, but how we cherish the player that commits to our cause. But my, my, how hard it is to find that golden nugget that not only is he a great player, but one who can look the magic pound in the eye and say’s no thank you. He is a special breed. That is why a developed player offer us so much more than just a professional player. His heart belongs to Daddy and his Daddy is of the Green and White variety. Cherish the Browns, Forrest,s that canny see the wid fur the trees, because he really is kissing the badge with love and affection..

Puggy67
5 years ago

Caption: Land Rover announce a recall after the discovery of an airbag that’s never worked.

5 years ago
Reply to  Puggy67

Ralph will be banging out a Land Rover Free hander at that one Puggy…..

Puggy67
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

🙂

5 years ago

Congerton & Lawwell out!
A pair of fannies….

Noel Skytrot
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

A right pair of va jay jays, mate. When are the support going to wake upto this mob. T

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

How do you know that Congreton isn’t identifying targets but Pistol Pete is firing blanks and failing to land them?

Lawwell & Bankier
One’s called Peter and the other’s called Ian
One’s a wank and the other’s wankier

5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

Cha,
Fair point, it would be interesting to sit down with Congerton & Lawwell, just to sift through the A list targets.
I would start this conversation by playing ‘ Go on home ‘ by Gary Og.
At the conclusion of the song i’d tell Peter to….proceed.

Steve Kirwan
5 years ago

Right Dame Judy, race you back to Sandringham.

Noel Skytrot
5 years ago

1 million people have paid money to watch us in Europe home and away according to UEFA, I wonder how much of the money generated by our amazing supporters will be used to fund transfers, anyone?

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  Noel Skytrot

I think it was league games in 2017/18 season but general point stands.

We took in about £40m and spent £4m in summer.

Also there’s been a transfer profit whilst Brendan Rodgers has been here.

There’s no need to sell major assets like Oli, as we’ve already got plenty of money to finance big signings.

Noel Skytrot
5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

You’re absolutely correct Cha, it was in the league games for the aforementioned season. See what happens when yer trying to read the diary quick in work knowing that if you get caught you’ll get hit with a disciplinary.

Noel Skytrot
5 years ago
Reply to  Noel Skytrot

Error, this was in our league. Cheers Cha.

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  Noel Skytrot

You’ve been consistently called out on this shite time after time but you won’t take a telling.

Who said “when facts change I change my opinion”?

Well people counteract your opinion with facts but you never change your opinion and can’t counteract the facts.

To reference OE alone and not reference turnover or profit is a totally misleading “apples and pairs” argument ie agenda driven pish.

Under BR:

Turnover has soared
Profit has soared
Wages to Turnover has reduced
Trophy haul has soared
European profile has increased

Anyone who reads negatives into that is simply “at it”.

Rob O'Keeffe
5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

Are you going to any games this season? Or are you just going to post racist comments(plastic paddys etc) and abuse other posters? I wonder where you picked up this sort of behaviour? Maybe a less than glorious previous “job”….

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

So we won’t make anything from Europe this year?

– no money for 4 CL/EL Qualifier wins
– no money for 3 EL Group wins
– no money from approx 500K crowd
– no money from TV for 8 home games
– no money from sponsors, corp etc for 8 home games

If ‘batshit crazy’ wasn’t a thing, it’d need to be invented for your posts.

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

At least you now accept the patently obvious fact that we won’t make £0 this year from Europe.

Small but progress anyhow.

Our strategy isn’t to qualify for the CL every year and, if we don’t, go into headless panic mode.

3 out of 5 years is the plan and haven’t qualified the last 2 years we’re well inside that.

Over and above this, this summer we made the following:

Dembele £20m
Armstrong £7m
VVD2 £7m
Izzy £2m

That’s actually more than last year’s CL money before factoring in EL money (£20m?).

I can only guess that you enjoy pishing your pants hence the constant need to do so when all sane, rational evidence is, there’s no need to.

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

I’m done.

I’ve pointed out how we’ll probably make double our CL income from last year by the summer sales and EL money and you’re incapable or unwilling to see that simple fact.

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

Facts, seriously?

You firstly estimate our income this season to be the same as last year MINUS European income, approx £70m

You then estimate our expenses as being the same as last year, approx £90m

So, your fact is that we’re on course for a £20m loss, presumably breaking FFP and excluding us from future European income.

My fact to you was that the above doesn’t take account of summer transfers, £35m and EL money, approx £20m.

When facts change so should your opinion but you seem impervious to this.

Tax, oh FFS. I can smell the desperation but please explain where this fits in, as it’s never been part of this or any other discussion I’m aware of.

BroxburnBhoy
5 years ago
Reply to  Noel Skytrot

Celtic spent 87m pounds last year mostly on players and staff wages and some on transfers. Those operating expenses is wher a lot of the cash goes. Transfer money is a part of this and I believe we are in surplus since Brendan’s arrival. There is a bigger picture than simply transfers which is part of the picture securing the core squad on improved contracts is the bulk of that cash. All that said we can afford a few decent players based on our ability to generate revenue and profits.

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  BroxburnBhoy

Yes, a relentless focus on expenditure, without recourse to revenue and profit is meaningless eg the Huns expenditure is a fraction of ours yet I doubt anyone would hold them up as an example of good governance.

I think our wages to turnover ration is about 55%, which is rated as very good.

The money is there to make good quality additions without selling prize assets.

Obviously this should go hand in hand with selling unproductive assets and minimise take such on board in the future!

5 years ago
Reply to  BroxburnBhoy

Selling Ntcham weakens the side ya fucking heeder

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Yep, we can buy 2 decent CBs and not sell Ntcham.

The money’s there and is, supposedly, why it’s been stockpiled up to now.

5 years ago
Reply to  Noel Skytrot

Noel,
Can i just say i am one of the 1, 000,000 who have paid in to watch the Bhoys.
Just pre empting Bob 🙂

Noel Skytrot
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

I wouldn’t give a fuck what anyone on here says or thinks, Monti. We’re all just expressing our opinions.

The Cha
5 years ago

Caption “Said Phillip to Lizzie as he sat down to drive”

Mike
5 years ago

“Cherish is a word that’s seldom used” and that is why we have to cherish the players that stay long term, the likes of Broony and Forrest. They are the core of the playing staff, they are the ones that don’t need to kiss the badge, they are the ones that have shown an unusual amount of loyalty, that professional players simply do not have in the modern game. No need to kiss the badge because loyalty counts for more than any badge kissing. Whether its the £350,000 per week for Ozil or others. But now that young Robertson at the pool is on a reputed £150,000 per week at the Pool, how long will KTF KT stay. He is as good or better than Robertson, so cherish the young man and the likes of Cal-Mac, Rogic and the others who put club before cash…

Mike
5 years ago

Thon stinking feeling when you know your rivals that are seriously in debt have outspent you massively in bringing in new players and you are in Rome and the emperor is fiddling like fuck..

Noel Skytrot
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

If they don’t win the league and qualify for the CL,which they won’t, they’ll burn like Rome as the saying goes, Mike.

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Noel Skytrot

Noel, Here’s hoping.

BroxburnBhoy
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Im unsure what the new club at Ibrox has spent. Probably not as much as we are led to believe. What I struggle to understand is wher the money is coming from to do anything at a club which has a chronic debt problem, continues to spend well beyond its means, living of personal loans and acting like they are Real Madrid. The real enemies of Celtic the SFA amd those in the SPFL who allow this insolvent club to continue seem oblivious that this new club will almost inevitably go the same way as the old club. I do think the Celtic Board should make a financial fair play statement publicly and privately seek assurances from the SFA that the new club is a solvent entity. My own opinion is that if we win a treble this year especially the league, it will send them into administration and possible liquidation.

Rob O'Keeffe
5 years ago

Good to see update from Brendan about Super Leigh being very positive.It’s ok not to be ok!
However,on KT’s situation,BR seemed a bit hesitant…..
P.S.Obviously got no time for the “royals” but liked Diana and wouldn’t indulge in jokes about her murder….
P.P.S.Is it still peaceful in the North of Ireland where they still are being run from England?…..delusion and collusion…..

Rob O'Keeffe
5 years ago

I’m taking JJ and Ivanka to the game tomorrow,we’ll probably leave after the disco……Bitton being back in the squad is the main reason for this….just when you thought things were pretty crap…..I’ve put 10k on Cowdenbeath not getting beat tonight…fingers crossed…..

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  Rob O'Keeffe

They won’t be beaten tonight as game’s been postponed due to a frozen pitch but I’d check the small print before spending your “winnings”.

5 years ago

caption,one just gave a name no one has heard of.marvin compper.guffaw guffaw

Puggy67
5 years ago

Caption: and by the time Plod wrote down my names and addresses I’d sobered up!

Cortes
5 years ago

Caption: My other car’s a write-off too.

5 years ago

The thing that get’s me is we aren’t looking for the club to spend recklessly.
We require an upgrade on Lustig at right back, i’d keep Lustig until the end of the season as back up to a new right back.

Boyata & Benkovic are gone in the summer, probably along with Lustig.

I don’t believe wr are going to strengthen these areas in this window.

Unbelievable really!

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Yep.

If we leave it to the summer then 1st July is the earliest we can bring in new players, so how long does that give us to bed in a new RB and 2 CBs before the CL gets serious?

Insane.

5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

Cha,
It’s fucking frustrating me oot ma nut min!

SFA unfit for purpose
5 years ago

i am hoping Brendan was taking the piss when he suggested that because benkovich and boyata are staying till the summer we will NOT be bringing anyone in. Got to be bullshit to keep the prices down surely.We MUST have players we fancy for CB , so if they are available now , you get them you dont wait till the summer. This has all the signs of a big fail coming in the summer , we waited for the right guys but missed out.
Some click bait shite about lallana joining up with gerrard on a loan.
Get the Fucking Cheque Book Out Peter.

5 years ago

Note to Congerton: How to build a team, completely unrealistic but fuck it.
This is my Fifa Celtic XI

Donnarumma

Alexander- Arnold
De Light
Bonfim
Tierney

Barco
Neves
Guedes
Kluivert

Mbappe
Campanã

UNFUCKINGTOUCHABLE!

5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Boyata sold immediately on me being installed as Celtic manager 🙂

The satisfaction of selling him was tangible.

Mike
5 years ago

The game at Cowdenbeath cancelled because off frost, at lunchtime no less, where is this frost, it must be up in the glens of Scotia, cos it surely wasn’t near Cowdenbeath when I passed it speedily, at lunchtime. What I read is the Beath chairman is hopping mad, he thought it was playable, but its being replayed on the 30th of January when there is to be no frost, my arse. Must be a bug in Govan..

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

It all seems very odd or totally normal in the world of Scottish football.

From the Beeb “‘If it was Berwick Rangers the game would have been on’ – Bollan”

“We were confident that the pitch was good,” Ewing told BBC Scotland. “Some of the Rangers staff arrived and the next thing there were discussions with the SFA and they wanted to send the referee along.”

Huns turn up unhappy, call the SFA and hey presto, the game’s off.

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

There was no frost in Cowdenbeath, the covers were on, there is no undersoil heating and the temperatures was 5 degrees. This is Scotland in January and its been very mild so far. The Cowdenbeath Directors were confidant that the pitch was playable and they never called in anyone. As you say the Huns pull up and just like magic a ref. turns up and Abracadabra, game off. Suspicious…

Noel Skytrot
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Donald (the orange cunt) Findlay is claiming that Newco kitman Jimmy (he’s an orange bastard) Bell is the main protagonist in the game being called. Hun on hun action.

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  Noel Skytrot

TBF he’s ripped Sevco every chance he gets and refers them as a new club, which the bears hate.

Not sure why the kit man was involved; was he worried that the alleged frozen area would damage the delicate fabric of their strip?

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

Noel is correct, it was Bell and the Hun security man who first arrived in the morning and alerted the SFA calling for a pitch inspection. Apparently the covers had blown off three areas during high winds overnight. Two off the areas were open to the sun and thawed significantly when the local ref. arrived. Only one area which was in the shade from the stand had not thawed and it was this tiny area in the corner that was deemed unfit to play. Findley and Bollam ex hun player and now Cowdenbeath manager, put a key into this area and said that it could easily take a stud. During the afternoon ALL the ground became playable. So there it is Jimmy Orange Bell the kitman had the game called off with SFA approval, hence the “if it was Berwick Rangers” quote, the game would have been played.

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

The question is why did they want the game called off?

I know they’re at Killie on Wed but surely they’d want to get some match fitness.

Also the rearranged game is 30th Jan, which I think is only a few days before the next round, so possibilities of more fixture congestion whingeing, if that doesn’t go ahead.

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Why did they call it off, Bollam thinks that, that would have given his team a better chance of a shock result, players coming back from a two week rest. But that only puts the Killie result at risk. I wonder if some of the players caught a bug perhaps, but that’s only guesswork. The 30th of Jan. will be at more risk because the forecast is for really cold conditions coming in from the east by next weekend. Who could fathom what Huns do, flexing their muscles perhaps, but a kit-man calling in the SFA because a corner of the pitch was hard but soft enough for a stud, hun believable..

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Unfortunately, entirely believable in Scotland, both that they wanted the game off and they got their wish, both in dubious circumstances.

Hopefully this comes back to bite them just like the Sporting Integrity Spring of 2008 where they postponed games before whingeing about their backlog and failing to get more and more extensions.

Peter Lawwell’s finest moment in a Celtic “shirt”; just a shame he’s done nothing comparable since despite multiple opportunities.

Mike
5 years ago

Plastic pitches, no undersoil heating and no VAR, buy the wreck that is Hampden, skinto… Alternatively get rid of the hangers on, don’t buy Hampden and use the modern facilities that exist. Run the game honestly be open and transparent and include the FOI act, have a judicial revue into the corruption when “Rangers” died and then return to the LNS fixed enquiry. Res. 12 follow it through.

Yoker Bhoy
5 years ago

Good Morning to you, the fitba’s back at last and, at an unusually late kick-off time, we begin our Scottish Cup campaign against 5th placed League 1 side Airdrie, whom I’ve always referred to as ‘the mini huns’.

I’ve always had a particularly strong dislike for this team and serious respect should go out to that small band of Bankies fans (some of whom were mates of mine) who fought so hard to save Clydebank FC back in the 90’s, finally managing to keep the club’s identity intact and prefering to participate in the junior leagues rather than forming part of a so-called ‘Airdrie Utd’. Get them tae fuck.

The current Airdrie team contains a few veterans: Scott Gallagher the goalie, who had a handful of games for the huns a few years ago; ex-Thistle midfielder Scott Robertson; Darryl Duffy, who played for both Hull and Swansea in his younger years and, last but not least, I’m sure most if not all of you will remember Ryan Conroy, who was being tipped for great things as a Celtic teenager but sadly didn’t quite make the grade. He only made 2 appearances for our first team before having a reasonably successful spell at Dundee. Nowadays he’s mostly being deployed as a left winger for this mob. All being well, this shower will be on the end of a serious beating today.

After their training camp in Dubai, our bhoys should be raring to go but there are still a few injury concerns so I don’t think either Benkovic or Edouard should be risked. We can expect a strong (but not our strongest) team to come onto the park. There is a fair chance that Scott Bain will be our goalie for all our Scottish Cup appearances just as he was in the LC. If so, I really hope he seizes such an opportunity to impress and push for a permanent first team place, at least for the rest of the season. He may not be world class but I rate him and so far he hasn’t let us down. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Calvin Miller occupy the left back berth this evening as he has had a pretty successful loan spell at Dundee. In that game when they were down to 10 men but still held out to draw against the huns, young Calvin really looked the business. Don’t be surprised to see young Timothy Weah make his debut either. With big Odsonne still recovering from injury and with the new guy still getting clearance to join us, we’re a bit light up front. I know that a 6 month loan deal is pretty underwhelming to say the least but that term could be extended if it looks likely to benefit both parties come May and the guy is supposed to be something of an entertainer. After all, it’s not every day you can get to watch the son of an all-time football great and a current national president playing in the hoops! Lastly, forgotten man Nir Bitton might surprise us with a cameo appearance. Being a one-off cup tie against a wee team, the line-up will be even more difficult to predict than usual but here goes:

Bain

Ralston Ajer Simunovic Miller

McGregor Ntcham

Forrest Christie Johnston

Weah

Subs: Gordon, Lustig, Boyata, Bitton, Morgan, Sinclair, Burke

Prediction: Celtic 6 Airdrie 0

COYBIG

5 years ago
Reply to  Yoker Bhoy

i was attacked in yoker by the yoker toi. i managed to scamper up the road to anniesland cross. Lucky i was fast or I was gettin the malky.

Yoker Bhoy
5 years ago
Reply to  iancelt67

Never really came into contact with that mob Ian. I used to know a couple of guys that were in the YCB (Young Clydebank Bundi) who terrorised Hearts fans coming to Kilbowie Park on a couple of occasions. They were mostly Tims. Well done for legging it and getting away – I was chased once myself as a teenager by those nazi cunts the Scotstoun Skins, who were all tooled up, but I was far too fast for them as well.

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