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Celtic Diary Wednesday January 16: Who Do We Believe ?

These days, there is a variety of outlets producing news, views and speculation which, in according to economic theory , should see the most accurate and sensible of them attract the biggest audience.

Some would argue that now information is more readily available its actually becoming more unreliable as news outlets struggle to keep up with the pace set by the modern twenty four hour rolling network.

Thats why so many unchecked stories are released, and why so many of them are elaborated on to try to capture the audience that searches -or tries to search-for more background, more context and more detail.

For example, there is the Pres Association release concerning John Beaton, who if you recall had abusive texts which grew into death threats to his family resulting in him requiring police protection.

The police spent so much time looking after him that they have no resources to actually check who sent the messages, as we note that no arrests have been made, and the story has kind of died down in the hope that we’ll all forget that Beaton, in fact, is a cheat who got caught.

A grown up news network that was interested in establishing the truth rather than sensationalising a non story would, by now have interviewed him. They would have at least seen the messages, if not shown them publicly.

They would have asked why he’d received them, when he’d received them, and if it was he alone who had received them.

A wider investigation would have sought information from other referees and match officials, to establish context and perhaps see if a pattern emerged.

It would also have looked into ways that a recurrence of the incident could be avoided.

Such as , for instance, ensuring that no perception of bias could be entertained by making referees declare any allegiances to any particular clubs, and refusing to allocate them to referee that clubs games.

That way no one gets accused of cheating, no one gets any abusive texts and no one gets their windows smashed.

If, of course, the latter two actually happened,

The BBC made a sort of half arsed attempt to justify the current system when they wheeled out Ken Clarke, a former referee and current supervisor on their flagship football programme Sportsound,..

More or less, he said that referees were of an impeccable amd unimpeachable standard, when asked if they should declare any allegiances.

“It is a complete irrelevance,” 

“For anyone to suggest that a referee would work for 10 or 15 years to get to the top level of refereeing in Scotland and would then cheat the fans simply in order to give ‘his team’ an advantage is just nonsensical.

“No-one in their right mind would put in the time and effort, make all the sacrifices they have to do to get to that level and then display bias. I don’t accept that it happens.” 

I think the phrase “no one in their right mind ” is perhaps important here.

The referees met recently to discuss the problems they are having, and Clarke summarised it for the BBC..

They don’t want their reputations being sullied as a result of them making a mistake in a big game. 

If they think they are having their reputations sullied as a result of making mistakes, then clearly they are not in their right minds.

Clarke himself is now on the lucrative after dinner speaking circuit, which means that sometimes he will play to his audience, which in turn adds to the perception that there is more than a hint of an agenda, for whatever reason, when referees make decisions..

Back in December, videocelts showed a video of him doing his stand up routine, which seemed to be written by Bernard Manning or Jim Davidson, apart from the bit where he said he refused to give a penalty to John Hartson, as Hartson had previously had a red card decision by Clark overturned.

I’ve tried to do a link, and it hasn;t worked, but google Kenny Clark and go to the videocelts link to see Clark indulging in banter…

Are we to believe that Clarke is merely pandering to his audience, or is he hiding the institutional SFA bias in plain sight ?

This tweet, from Bellshill Tim, outlines the problem quite succinctly.

Scottish referees 100% honest, 100% unbiased, 100% nothing to hide or be questioned on

Who do you support? No telling

Are you a member of any associations? No telling

Why did you make that very questionable decision? No telling

How does the appeal system work? No telling, 

 

This is the current list of SFA referees..

There are quite a lot of them, and they’ve even got a spare Beaton in case anything does happen to John.

However, if there are so many of them, how come we always seem to get the same ones for Celtic games ?

Are they the  ones who can be relied on to make the correct decisions…

However, allow me to make a leap into the dark here, with an observation that perhaps outlines the recruitment policy at the SFA when it comes to referees, and certainly the advancement of referees.

If you were to obtain a list of thirty to thirty five employees at any department in any company in either Scotland or England, how many Irish surnames would you expect to see ? 

Come to think of it, such a list anywhere else would probably be quite diverse in its ethnicity.

Now have a look at the grade one referee list and see if you notice anything. 

We’re still not paranoid enough, and if the club doesn’t start to say something, it will bite us in the arse.

Whilst we are on about our clubs Mowbrayic attitude when faced with the media taking our good name in vain, then perhaps there’s something else they should do in light of this astonishing and somewhat tenuous link to this story..

Its the Daily Record again.

The player is at Oxford and has appeared for Northern Ireland, neither of whom are named in the headline, and the paper,  describes the man as a former Celtic target, not doubt from its own archives, which themselves, at best can be described as speculative.

Lawwell should be demanding an apology at the least, or a removal of certain priviliges, such as Record reporters not being beaten up on the car park after the game is finished.

In fact, there are a lot of things Lawwell should be demanding explanations for, not least the refereeing issue outlined above.

Then there’s the Janefield underpass crush report. will it be out before the hordes visit again, or will we run the risk of the same mistakes being made.

That game is in March, and that reports conclusions need to be analysed, and acted upon.

Resolution 12 ? He’s got the smoking gun, he should be using it.

What about getting together with the other clubs and asking why one club has been allowed to trade whilst insolvent ?

While they’re there, they could ask of the beaks intend to see if King is going to comply with the Takeover Panel rulings…or if the game is to be dragged through the gutter again.

In fact, just get them to publish how they thought King was fit and proper to run a football club.

That would be a laugh.

 

All of these things affect Celtic, the shareholders , the support and in a wider context, the image of the game presented to the audience, the sponsors and the television companies.

Whilst Lawwell and our board cannot be held responsible for others misdoings, they could at least try to encourage opposition to those  misdoings.

As the perception of wrong doing spreads throughout the game, its not enough to stand by and shrug our shoulders.

Its time to get the clubs together and resign en masse from the SFA.

If they won’t go, everyone else should.

 

Etims is noted for perhaps being a little imaginative  when it comes to the tittle tattle thats out there, especially when it comes to transfer window time.

But the amount of creative talent bursting through just now is quite encouraging,

The big story yesterday was the apparent interest in long serving Celtic forward James  Forrest.

Image result for james woods

I think theres something wrong with my google.

Liverpool were going to offer £8m for him in the summer, which evolved into a he’s away for £12m and Peter Lawwell won’t stand in his way.

Its bollocks, like pretty much everything else you read which we haven’t made up on here.

And yes, the Victor Wanyama one is bollocks as well.

Ya Ya Toure isn’t bollocks…not entirely anyway.

There are still a couple of players to come, one of which should be Scott McKenna , barring a Lawwell intervention.

 

One player who is definitely coming, although he seems to be taking his time, is Vakoun Bayo.

He has been saying goodbye to his club, their supporters and generally showing what a humble and decent guy he really is.

On Monday, in the DAC store, you can once again ask for a joint photo or signature from former DAC striker , who was contracted to the Scottish champions at the beginning of the week.

“With love and gratitude, I will remember the DAC fans. Their persistent support helped me to make a big difference to last year’s goals,they also made a significant contribution to getting a move to Celtic. I hope I can thank many of you personally for the love I got”

We may have unearthed a little nugget here..

 

Caption competition…yesterday

Corrupt Official
January 15, 2019 at 9:39 am · Edit · Reply →

I left my gun on the Killie bench, and that fat bastard Boyd sat on ma bayonet 

Today…

 

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spudscave
5 years ago

Caption Wild bills belly is rumbling and he’s thinking a could murder a Indian

Steven R
5 years ago

Caption: native American guy says “how!”. The white fella says “the SFA let the cunts away with it via the five-way agreement!”.

puggy67
5 years ago

Caption: Go and get that buidler, biker and cop, I’ve got this idea for a song…

5 years ago

caption
“say Geronimo” who is that young man wearing orange waving his “big horn” in public

puggy67
5 years ago
Reply to  iancelt67

🙂

puggy67
5 years ago

Caption: Kinky boots you imperialist arsehole.

Tammy65
5 years ago

Unless we stump up minimum £10 there is no way McKenna’s coming to us.

FredDDobbs@hotmail.com
5 years ago
Reply to  Tammy65

hes on 4 grand a week at aberdeen, oh aye he is coming to us

puggy67
5 years ago

Caption: You win white man but your great-grandaughters will be painting themselves this colour.

5 years ago

Caption: Monti picks a new disciplinary panel to review El Buffalo’s misdemeanours.

5 years ago
Reply to  Mcklintop

Weered,
I’m going to invest in Belfast Celtic & their first signing will be Joe Gormley 🙂

5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Weered,
No need to bring Mike into it….;)

BJF
5 years ago

“Chief Harry Kane’s our for 3 months, Son’s off to the Asian Cup, what we gonna do? Chief Bluenose”Sinple lets start a campaign to bring Jason Defoe back.”

Mike
5 years ago

Caption, Mr. Custard’s last stand, How!

Ken Diddy Clarke will never ever be Ken Dodd, he may try to act like him, even steal his jokes, but he will never be as funny, mind you he is good for a laugh. Referee’s, Bias and the sickness that is called Bigotry, it must eat at their very soul. How to stop it, well dismantle the Lanarkshire’s Refereeing society. But then you would have to start at the very top of the SFA and work your way down into the gutter. We seem to be in the middle of a storm of confliction, a bent governing body and a compliant board. How many supporters are sick to their stomach’s and will be handing in their notice, until Mr. Custard gathers his cavalry and we all join in and fight of the Indians, pistol’s at the ready.. charge..

Daziekanowski's nightclub child
5 years ago

Looking at the Referees list, there are too many first names used as surnames, that’s a usual sign of something!!

Caption: A young Donald Findlay meets Talking Bull and a career is born.

5 years ago

Caption: Val Kilmer tells Chief sports writer, Radar Jackson to…um fuck off!

5 years ago

caption
Um leigh griffiths in heap bad disguise.you wont be getting any firewater from me

puggy67
5 years ago
Reply to  iancelt67

but my great grandson is opening a casino…

5 years ago

Caption: Pioneer- ” Hi, i ordered a Taxi for Dedryck Boyata.”

Chief- ” How “?

Pioneer- ” He’s pish “

Bongo
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Boyata’s here for 8IAR and a Treble Treble. !!!!

Gash67
5 years ago

See that cnut Trump has been slagging of your great great great grand daughter again

Alzyerpal
5 years ago

Ur ye Ragin’ Bull Hun?

5 years ago

caption
i said sweat lodge not orange lodge paleface

5 years ago

The rangeree association is never going to allow a list of allegiances of their members to be published, but it shouldn’t be too difficult for someone else to do it.

We already know who Beaton, Madden, Ross and Dallas support and I’m sure we have enough people around the country who would have knowledge of the others and their affiliations and evidence to back it up.

It just needs someone with the contacts and organisation to collate and PUBLISH the information, which could be produced before any Celtic game where the known bigots are apponted.

Rob O'Keeffe
5 years ago
Reply to  TonyB

On a well established site,information was confirmed that 27 of the Grade 1 “refs” have a penchant for the Scruffy Sooside Sectarian Sessspit Side of Glasgow and it’s Turncoat Tribute Act…..RSF…

Cartvale88
5 years ago

Caption
Here comes the Lone Ranger, still doesn’t realise they are deid

We can winge all we want about the underlying hatred of all things Irish/Catholic, statements are made in the midden in Edinburgh about antisemitism, racism, religious bias, but as for you lot, trek back to Eire.
It is acceptable to have a car registration being auctioned with FTP, no Catholicsallowed to run this God forsaken Island.
This has gone on for years and will not change, as too many like the CFC board think it’s the norm. By subsiding this pish with adverts, and accepting. The fans buy their pish, papers, products etc; talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

50 Shades of Green
5 years ago

HOW…..

Never mind how just bloody dae as a tell ye.

Martin67
5 years ago

Caption: After cosplaying as a policeman Mikael Lustig does his best cowboy impression

Ex Ludo
5 years ago

Caption: “That’s El Buffalo over there Chief, he plays for Sevco. That wee buffalo behind the tree is far away.”

Auldheid
5 years ago

With regard to Kenny Clark my view is at https://twitter.com/Auldheid/status/1085481066754965504?s=19 and following tweet.

With regard to Celtic and their silence Spot on. They are dealing with a criminal organisation at Ibrox and need to tool up to the threat.

What they will not get as matters stand is support from other clubs or media but have more than enough to go to battle for fairness, but attitudes need to change. No more Mr Nice Guy.

Rob O'Keeffe
5 years ago
Reply to  Auldheid

Two cheeks of the same ass.Celtic are complicit in the continuation lie,business is business.We should be miles ahead of these crooks/jokers but we are neck and neck with them….shameful…..

melbourne bhoy
5 years ago

fwiw Kenny Clarke is a Celtic ‘supporter”

Tubbytubthumper
5 years ago

Callum McGregor brings in help to win the club Fancy Dress competition.

Cortes
5 years ago

Caption: Gonnae show us how a bull can sit, Chief?

George Lazenbhoy
5 years ago

Caption: you’ve got a five minute head start. It’s more than I gave that twat Beaton

George Lazenbhoy
5 years ago

Allegedly I might add

Greenheart
5 years ago

Caption, ‘ Well Chief, if you want to be a co investor sign over the gold reserves on your land to me and i will absolutely definitely make sure some of it will be used to make rangers* great again.’

Rebus67
5 years ago

Ralph,

That article is one of your best, if not the best! You hit every nail on the head. The pressure on the team for the December grew as the game neared and the Board said nothing. Even in the aftermath, the response was muted and even that has gone into limbo.

Concerns should have been expressed about that ref team before the match in an attempt to moderate their behaviour. There was evidence from the Aberdeen game tonhighlight either incompetent or bias but nothing was said.

Clarke’s dinner speech should have been addressed when it first surfaced on youtube. He should have been asked to explain why his comments were not biased and whether he thought similar incidents happened in the game today.

I am afraid there is a large degree of complacency on this Board and it will come back to haunt us. There will be little value in addressing the ref issue after we lose the league, should that come to pass. Sevco and the SFA try to stack the deck against us: the ref team for the Inrox game; the assault on the team bus; the away game at Aberdeen immediately preceding the Ibrox game; the Sevco run of home games leading up to the Dec 29th game; the breach of financial fair play rules and so on and so on.

The club needs to develop a system to respond to this ASAP because it will not go away on its own. The time to do it is when we are on top.

Rebus

Rebus67
5 years ago

Post gone into the ether again.

Can it be retrieved?

Rebus

Dharma Bam
5 years ago

Caption
“You just ignore that Sean Connery, Sitting Bull”

5 years ago

caption,right listen big elk.see that fat numpty boyd over there ,don,t bother scalping him as its not his own hair,

Honest hoops
5 years ago

Caption; look over there…smoke from the huns training complex…shite does burn after all!!

Leitrim Bhoy
5 years ago

Bill “just heard The Huns are paying Defoe’s wages!!!”

Chief: “HOW?????”

Owen Mullions
5 years ago

Caption:’Right, Big Chief Blue Nose, ye’ve qualified as a grade 1 ref, noo yer local Ludge is thattaway’.

SFA unfit for purpose
5 years ago

YA YA Can piss off … i will stick with a tried and tested Broony thanks very much.
You guys are gettin misty eyed over a player that will never cut it in the SPL. wHEN DID HE LAST KICK A BALL.
Get Broony fit , put in some new duracells and watch him boss the rest of the season….

R.St.Parsley
5 years ago

Caption:’Yer just in time, there’s some gullibillies ower there that Dave hisnae scalped yet’.

jimboh
5 years ago
Reply to  R.St.Parsley

Winner by a mile, must be.

Mike
5 years ago

Ken Clarke reminds me of the Holocaust deniers, despite all evidence pointing to the facts, they still deny that cheating goes on. But when you look at the facts or even the Stats, they all point to the truth of cheating mason’s in the black. Oh what a cosy bed they must sleep in. “No we spent 15 years training to be this shite” but the truth is in our own eyes. Dallas the minor’s two late penalties for the Huns with 10 regular minutes to go TWO FFS. Meeking’s hand ball where all of us in the stands could see a deliberate hand ball, but McLean and his two assistants feet from the penalty couldn’t. Beaton is the most blatant cheat, closely followed by Madden. McLean’s funny handshake pictured before the game. Well I go with my own eyes and they tell me of the cheating, nobody is going to tell me different. Clarke is talking shite, making excuses, referee’s ARE affected and conflicted by their past and present associations. The Stats don’t lie.

Mike
5 years ago

Another missing post, gone but not forgotten!

Rebus67
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Mike,

You too?

Rebus

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  Rebus67

Rebus, I’m joining the # You too campaign. 😉

The Cha
5 years ago

Caption “No! I said I wanted to meet Chief Shitting Bull, Dave King”

The Cha
5 years ago

I think this is the Kenny Clark video:

Noel Skytrot
5 years ago

You have to wonder why the current board aren’t going all out to make sure that something is done in regard to the cheating of the Oldco. If Auldheid is saying that they have bullets, why haven’t they fired the gun?

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  Noel Skytrot

To paraphrase Buffalo Bill from Maryhill; they never have and never will.

Puggy67
5 years ago

Caption: What do the smoke signals over Auchenhowie say Chief? Thick fuck burned toast.

Bognorbhoy
5 years ago

Caption…

Billy Connolly successfully swaps his banana wellies for thigh highs…
Pocahontas…nope not me talk tae Neil young he’s up on sugar mountain…

5 years ago

Sevco wants to end our 8 in a row but they are a team with no credit line from a bank and are trading whilst insolvent, which is against the law of the land. If they are the ‘same club’ then they also carry unpaid debts of £150 million plus. One of our board who is not afraid to speak out is Brian Wilson (see his regular column in the Hootsman) Perhaps he will also speak out on this, on our behalf? Or perhaps he thinks Celtic and Sevco are also “better together”?

charlie
5 years ago

caption sittin bull tells custar ye jeest walked intae the wrang street noo yer custard

charlie
5 years ago

caption awe the nice is that a picture ae donnchadh wae ees wee cowboy suit oan before hees maw gottum intae sodgers

charlie
5 years ago

caption an indian medicine man tells a brit if yees think scalpins bad ,,,,wait tae yer grandwains meet frankie hughes

charlie
5 years ago

goodness gracious me brown warrior he saiz a cant say ime surprised

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

donnchadh brown warriors aint aboot gay nights doon the ludge ……old been every thursday

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

only wen yer sweethearts busy

charlie
5 years ago
Reply to  charlie

ha ha ha ha ha hun

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