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Celtic Diary Wednesday November 21: Its Now Or Never

But before we go into that, a wee note to James Forrest..the fresh faced but battle hardened winger who has done something only four other Celtic players have ever done.

He scored a hat trick for Scotland last night as they beat Israel 3-2.

It was all a wee bit tense, for those who actually care towards the end of the game as had Israel equalised then Scotland would have exited the tournament.

So, you can imagine my disappointment when Forrest didn’t score an own goal and then run towards the bench shouting “fuck you , ginge “.

Still, there’s always next time.

Only four Celts had scored three goals in one game for Scotland before..

1889: Willie Groves v Ireland

1893:  Johnny Madden v Wales

1901: Sandy McMahon v Ireland

1908: Jimmy Quinn v Ireland 

Even Jimmy McGrory didn’t do it, but he only managed seven caps…and six goals.

McGrory was shamefully overlooked by the national management in those days, because he played for Celtic.

Hang on…some things don’t change, do they ?

Forrest is rapidly ticking off a number of achievements as he continues to perform consistently. The press are saying he’s finally arrived, which is bollocks.

He’s been here all the time.

 

Today…there’s an AGM.

Image result for Dermot Desmond AGm

Yes, there is.

There appears to be a little bit of a media campaign to put some sort of feel good factor into it…

Celtic contributes £165MILLION boost to Scotland’s economy every year as Hoops ranked 25th strongest brand in world football

The Hoops and their fans contribute the mammoth figure annually – which is the equivalent of 2,820 full-time jobs in Scotland 

Lawwell said

We commissioned this research because of a feeling that the economic contribution from football in general and Celtic in particular is consistently under-valued.

“While a huge amount of attention is rightly paid to one-off events like the Commonwealth Games and other activities which attract interest to Scotland and Glasgow, football’s economic contribution tends to be overlooked – yet it brings people here from around the world.” 

“There is a great deal in this report for the club and its supporters to take pride in.

“We also hope that the Scottish Government and Glasgow City Council will recognise that Celtic and football more generally are significant economic players when it comes to issues like transportation links and tourism promotion.” 

Celtic commissioned the report ?

Released the day before an AGM ?

Oh, I’m trying hard not to be cynical.

The report into the Janefield underpass crush has yet to be published, although we hear it’ll be done next month.

I’d have hoped an announcement about fan safety and measures to be put in place to prevent a recurrence would have been pretty high up the agenda…

But no…lets publicise our bid for rate rebate from the council.

Here we have the essence of the disassociation between fans and the board.

They actually think we give a toss about how much money they’re making.

Perhaps that will be how they try to explain away their shameful inaction over the Resolution 12 issue.

One way or another, today we will know who will be taking that issue forward.

Which allows me a moment to thank Fans Without Scarves for their contribution to the replies to yesterdays diary.

Celtic need the support of other clubs to bring about change, otherwise it is sold to the public as another Celtic Rangers issue.

We should be extending the hand of friendship, we should be encouraging others to examine the evidence that is out there.

The Resolution 12 scandal is about the SFA and its people and policies.

It affects all clubs, and so all clubs should be encouraged to assist.

 

Today, at the AGM, we need to know whether or not our club is on the side of transparency and justice, or if its in it for the money. 

I’d like to think there’s still enough of Celtic on the board to make the right decision. 

So that we can remember them with a little more respect and affection than the last board that forgot what Celtic was all about. 

I know that they are concerned, so much so that security at todays meeting have been given this picture..

Image result for ralph malph

and told not to let him in.

 

 

Elsewhere, and the new Sky tv deal seems to be getting a bit of praise in the papers, which is odd.

Neil Doncaster, a man who would struggle to negotiate a packet of fags from a newsagent with a twenty pound note and a debit card, was the main man again at the table.

This Neil Doncaster… the one who paid tv companies to cover “rangers ” games in a frantic bid to protect the brand and perpetuate the myth that nothing happened at ibrox

“When Rangers ceased to be a member of the SPL, broadcasters had the right to terminate the contracts immediately.

 Can I be so rude as to ask why there was a clause that nullified the deal ? And if there’s a similar clause in this one ?

“The consequences of the deal falling would have been catastrophic for every team.” 

Which kind of explains his “we will take whatever you offer ” negotiating tactic.

 Doncaster confirmed figures reported by us yesterday while pointing out that the £725,000 “cashback” payments account for less than three per cent of TV revenue since liquidation put Rangers to the fourth tier.

He said: “Given broadcasters would incur increased costs for erecting gantries, building rigging and establishing other facilities at smaller grounds – a significant additional cost – we agreed to make a contribution.

“The extra costs were reflected in a small reduction in the deal with one broadcaster.

“Put into context, the costs of covering the extra games were less than three per cent of the annual value of the deal.” 

We hear that in the current deal, the SPFL will provide televisions and subscriptions to anyone who hasn’t got one, firstly on a trial basis in a number of areas in Scotland.

To be considered, all those wishing to be considered must simply forward their Lodge membership details.

 

Keith Jackson in the Record says that we should all be grateful for the Sky deal.

Ralph Malph on Etims says “Bollocks “.

 

Another investment in another player we are well aware of…Mikey Johnston has signed a new deal.

Though his squad number does hint that perhaps we do need to trim the playing staff a little..

Well done  to him, and, in training, keep your eye on the other wingers in the squad, learn from them…one of them is going to be a legend.

 

Meanwhile…any takers ?

Replying to  

Come on ..get the Res12 clothing range released for Xmas!!  

Kneel Doncaster on twitter has already patented his design..

Yesterday, we offered this…

Puggy67 November 20, 2018 at 9:25 am · Edit · Reply →

Caption: Preparations begin for Wayne Rooney’s charity match after-party 

Which was about the only inoffensive answer to the caption i could find.

Dear me, what got into you lot yesterday ?

I’ll put it down to you missing the football.

Five Our Fathers and Three Hail Mary’s for all of you.

Today..

 

 

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D'Fhinnein Mick
5 years ago

Prepare to be sold down the river. Makes you wistful for the days of Fergus.

At least then,for maybe the only time,we knew the boardroom was on our side.

https://sentinelcelts.com/2018/11/21/memorable-matches-part-9/

BroxburnBhoy
5 years ago

Is this the same Fergus that most Celtic fans loathed and booed him at games? Oh how memories are short.

Honest hoops
5 years ago

Caption; McLeishs barriers are removed to allow Celtic players to attend scotland training camp…

Jack the rack
5 years ago

“Lawwell said”.

Hmmm.

The FoAI report is an adroit piece of work.

The AGM is not the target audience. It is intended to embarrass a skint GCC and a skint Scottish Government.

” We generate income into the economy you cretins – work with us to increase it. If you get in our way, e.g. parking restrictions, there will be a financial reckoning for you”.

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  Jack the rack

If you think releasing this the day before the AGM is coincidental then you’re naive.

I’m sure there’s other audiences that are targeted as you’ve mentioned but this could’ve been done last month, tomorrow etc.

Alzyerpal
5 years ago

Caption : Tory Government finally make an effort to solve the housing crisis.

Tenaka Khan
5 years ago

Tracey Emins’ latest sculpture entitled “Kris Boyd putting on his Killie shorts.”

Bognorbhoy
5 years ago
Reply to  Tenaka Khan

one person’s art is another person’s skip filler

Cortes
5 years ago

McLeish’s concept of the “Flatpack Four” plus skipping after a training session with Johnnie Walker.

5 years ago

Unveiled , the working model for the new Ibrokes stadium soon to be announced at their AGM .

5 years ago

re: had Israel equalised then Scotland would have exited the tournament.

Incorrect

It would have meant we missed promotion to Pot 3 and also lost a play off place in the Semi-Final Play Offs ( probably vs Finland\Norway\Serbia).

Regardless of last night –

We would still have to play in the European Championship Qualifying games (10) and hope to make the top 2 to get through to the Finals..before any need to use the Joker card we achieved last night.

Who says football administrators just make the game more complicated for the sake of it?

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  desimond

Ah, you’re the one person who understands how it works!

With the risk of sending me to sleep, what are we in the semifinal of?

Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

Top 2 teams from each group go through to Euro Championship Finals.
However
There are also at least 4 play off places up for grabs…we have a place in one of those play off semi finals should we need it after the qualifying round campaign itself.

Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  Desi Mond

We got promoted last night so we will now be in Pot 3 for the draw which is made on same day of League Cup Final.

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  Desi Mond

So which one will you be watching? 😉

Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  desimond

Good point regards meaningless friendlies…..in their “wisdom”..UEFA/FIFA have declared that no International team will get time off, so even if you don’t have a scheduled qualifier, you have to arrange an International friendly match for that week.

Cue lots of call offs when that idea kicks in.

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  Desi Mond

Although a lot of countries gamed the system by either not playing or playing easier opponents in friendlies.

Obviously the SFA arranged friendlies against Tier 1 sides that were naturally lost and the ranking plummeted.

5 years ago
Reply to  desimond

Desimond,
Thank fuck you have been paying attention….i have absolutely no fucking idea how this tournament works.
It’s a bit like giving Charlie Saiz a 6 piece Jigsaw….

5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

” Handling tools “? Were you in 1 Para then?

CarllJungleBhoy
5 years ago

Good read Ralph! But, the only way that guy wih the ginger hair & bunnet would get into the AGM is if he arrived in the Tardis.

BTW Do you know if anybody is planning to cover the AGM live on Twitter?

The Cha
5 years ago

Caption: The Etims Commentariat bin their prepared caption entries for fear of offending Ralph.

The Cha
5 years ago

I know he’s vastly over-renumerated but he’s not on £10m pa…yet!

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

Don’t even jest and, besides, I don’t think it would take him 10 years to earn (guffaw guffaw) that.

Gerry
5 years ago

Caption:
You may be a cat burglar but your stashing ability is brutal!

bgbhoy
5 years ago

agm- announce new striker NOW

5 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

Bgbhoy,
We could always drop Edouard & bring in Jo inge berget…cough.

bgbhoy
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

we only have one serious striker at the minute, eddy gets injured and were strugling

5 years ago
Reply to  bgbhoy

Bgbhoy,
I know that but try explaining that to Bilko numbnuts 😉

5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

We could play James through the middle…..

bgbhoy
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

true, think he’s our top scorer and currently our ‘number waaaan’ as griff would say after scoring a point blank range header, but in reality….

bgbhoy
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

yeah that was a great season griff had 4 years ago.. we need another main striker AND 2 DEFENDERS

bgbhoy
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

excuse the caps lock lol

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

We’re also playing an almost completely different game, with all 10 outfield players needing to contribute all the time and no one being allowed to have the luxury of being a goal hanger.

Brendan has tried time after time to get this through to Griff that he needs to be more involved when we’ve not got the ball, defending from the front etc but to no avail.

Eddy also has his injury issues (hopefully just growing pains) so we definitely need another top quality striker in January.

Forrest and Christie have been poor when played there so lets not destroy everything good they’re doing now by going back there.

Bgbhoy
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Well said

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Whatever you call him, he was our 3rd choice striker for a reason, however much of a soor one that is for you.

Bgbhoy
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Only one person that most people refer too and think of as a plum Charlie.

puggy67
5 years ago

Lawwlell’s ‘small country’ and ‘accident of geography’ quotes will have the SNP coughing up their porridge. No coincidence there either.

Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  puggy67

No really sure why SNP would be fussed…it was Scottish Labours Jack McConnell that cited “best small country in the world” patter and SNP removed it as a slogan in 2007.

Three years after Jack McConnell first claimed the title for the nation, the former first minister’s slogan has been officially ditched.

puggy67
5 years ago
Reply to  Desi Mond

I think the clue is in the removal of the word ‘best’ kinda changes the sentiment and I think the inference is small in more aspects than geography

Admin
5 years ago

When was that exactly?

Scotland was a tory country up until early 70s. Even Glasgow had plenty of Tories back then.

We had a brief delusion that Scottish Labour could carry a dream forward but in the end all we got was fat-cat MP negligence, a corrupt Glasgow council and Donald Dewar gifting the sea all the way up to Carnoustie to “English waters” in exchange for a token hamstrung Devolution deal which had a structure to never allow one party real power.

in reality, Scottish Socialism is pretty much a romantic myth despite how much we wish it were true.

Most Scots are canny and selfish “me first” attitudes at heart. Sad but true and its not just a new thing.

Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  Desi Mond

And John Mclean saved the Nakatomi towers…No one said there weren’t Socialists who were Scottish.

Jazzy K
5 years ago
Reply to  Desi Mond

at Chrimbo as well…..

Iancelt67
5 years ago
Reply to  Desi Mond

Jimmy Reid was the only true socialist back then. The rest of them were sycophants for Westminster

Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  Iancelt67

What exactly was John Smiths big qualities again?

I watched him come along but don’t recall him doing anything relevant and nice to see his daughter Sarah championing the Union so fervernlty.

SNP brainwash….hahaha…that’s right, lifting the cover on the Wizard of Oz was bad Totos fault

BroxburnBhoy
5 years ago
Reply to  Iancelt67

The same one who moved from the CPGB where he was a Stalinist to the Labour Party and then to the SNP. The same one who opposed the Miners strike in the 80s?

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  BroxburnBhoy

It’s difficult to keep track of all the comments but are you saying Jimmy Reid opposed the Miners Strike?

BroxburnBhoy
5 years ago
Reply to  BroxburnBhoy

Yes he did – he defended those miners still working and generally opposed the strike because he disliked Arthur Scargill

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  BroxburnBhoy

Wow, I never knew that, as I was darn sarf by then.

I know he had become a bit of a caricature later on and mixing with the types of people he wouldn’t have when he was a TU leader.

A bit like Billy Connolly who went from a similar background to hobnobbing with royals and other leeches.

The Cha
5 years ago
Reply to  Iancelt67

Smith started the right-wing movement that led to Blair and Brown.

Hell mend him.

5 years ago
Reply to  Desi Mond

And Mr Miage taught Daniel son how to wax a fucking car….

5 years ago
Reply to  Monti

Don’t know if it was at Christmas time tho, if he was waxing the car it would probably have been during the summer months.

Mike Annis
5 years ago

Caption: The newest Dr Who begins cleaning up the Tardis.

Donegal
5 years ago

Caption –

Skip explosion caught in time lapse photo.

5 years ago

Caption: Charlie Saiz has an attic sale to make room for some Hornby train sets, camouflage edition, with mini action man included as the train driver.

Choo Choo…

Christina Young
5 years ago
Reply to  Monti
Iancelt67
5 years ago

That ball Christie played for Forrest and the goal was sublime. Christie is a lot better than I thought he was. He has everything in his locker maybe not heading. He’ll probably get a bullet header goal in the next game. I was a detractor more fool me. The guy is a legend. Great player

bgbhoy
5 years ago
Reply to  Iancelt67

also guilty of thinking he was not a player

nice to be wrong

5 years ago
Reply to  Iancelt67

Iancelt,
Ryan is a good player, i think going to Aberdeen has done the lad the world of good, like Callum McGregor going to Notts County.
You need to play games, you need to get those first team games in your legs & in your head.

San Miguel
5 years ago

Caption” The Sevco Chief Executive nips out for a box of matches , as he prepares the scene for his equivalent of the famous Lawwell Heated Driveway.”

Southside Bhoy
5 years ago

Swap deal for Marvin Compper finally completed

Jazzy K
5 years ago

Caption: SFA get confused about cleaning their act up

Iancelt67
5 years ago

The truck driver who has to pick up that skip wouldn’t be too pleased when he turns up

portpower
5 years ago

Caption:
Hubby gets the IKEA furniture and home accessories in the fair divorce settlement.

The Cha
5 years ago

Apologies if anyone else has done this but AGM highlights from fishal site:

1. Peter and Brendan agreed transfer window ‘frustrating’ but looking forward to January.

2. “One shareholder also brought up the increase in unacceptable songs and chants”. I wonder if this is the same numpty that always criticises the fans and sure enough the Beeb have reported this adding ‘sectarian’, as the standard dog whistle that “one side’s as bad as the other” yadie yada da. Who need’s enemies?

3. “The club confirmed that there are ongoing discussions with the relevant bodies, as well as supporters’ groups, before making a final decision on whether to recommend that no tickets should be taken for the fixture.” re Huns game. As long as this is simply a recommendation and adults can make their own decision.

4. “The safety of Celtic supporters is always the number one priority for the board, something which was also stressed when crowding problems at the Celtic v Rangers game at Celtic Park back in September was raised.” No indication of what was raised, when report due etc.

5. “The meeting ended on a positive, and light-hearted note,” Oh, FFS, we’re in News At Ten territory after reporting wars and famine “and now a cat up a tree”.

and that’s it, nothing about Res12 etc but hopefully someone who was there or further reports will report that there was.

Uralius
5 years ago

Thought you were good with tools.

SteveNaive
5 years ago

Hmm, the Labour controlled Glasgow Council that held talks with the OO
to target Nat seats at the Referendum and the same Jimmy Reid who was a Sun columnist ?

jimboh
5 years ago

Caption….
Ibrokes Finance Director gets ready for Moonlight Flitting taking his ” Basket of Assets” with him.

5 years ago

Caption: ” Ok Mr Ogilvie, everything that can be shredded has been, the rest has been skipped “

George Lazenbhoy
5 years ago

When Brendan said he would be having a clear out. I kind of thought it would be the squad not his house!

5 years ago

Caption: Mary you did put that res 12 down at the bottom.Yes Peter. Peter goes away whistling build a bonfire,see you later doll off to play some golf.

5 years ago

Celtic have had 5 years to deal with res12.
5 fuckin years. Someone at our club for some reason doesnt want this go to uefa Why?
The silver bullet is there to be fired.
But the trigger is not being pulled.
Celtic fans we are now looking in the wrong place for answers. The answer lies within our board.
Someone with something to hide is as guilty as any of the sfa fuckers and we need to know why.
UEFA would deal with this if asked. So fuckin man up or get to fuck out of our club simple.

Uralius
5 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

Celtic don’t want it to happen. Believe it or not the powers that be at Celtic WANT “rangers” and as many teams from Scotland as possible in Europe.

DELETE THE SPACES
w w w .talkingbaws .com/2018/11/peter-lawwell-reckons-celtic-would-be-champions-league-challengers-if-they-werent-in-scotland/

5 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

Jimmybee,
Exactly my feelings on it, i’d go further though & suggest it will be more than one on the board.
I see the AGM yesterday was a jovial affair?

We will never learn.

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  jimmybee

Why? Because if Res.12 was successful then Celtic would lose about one third of its income. The Celtic board are only interested in… INCOME, they are not interested in anything that stops or threatens INCOME. Look to all the reasons that they are not interested in stopping or rocking the boat off Scottish football in case it reduces income. I.E. MONEY… everything else means SFA.

Uralius
5 years ago

Why?

Puggy67
5 years ago

Caption: Empty skip has a couple videos posted in it.

The Cha
5 years ago

Have you got a breakdown for Kris Boyd, as you’re probably one of the people who agree with him that he’s a better player than Henrik, as he’s got the “stats” to prove it.

Bgbhoy
5 years ago
Reply to  The Cha

A quick look at the stats tells you that French eddy has a far better goals to game ratio. And that Celtic has 2 strikers at the club and Griffiths isn’t one of our 2 best strikers. ‘Make of that what you will’

5 years ago
Reply to  Bgbhoy

Bgbhoy,
A fit Griffiths is a real force, no doubt about that, my problem with him is twofold, he misses too many games due to injuries & by all accounts isn’t the most professional off the park.

We simply need a striker who is fit & ready to play, Griffiths doesn’t always offer that.
A club the size of Celtic can’t get by with just one striker ( Edouard ) while the other misses game after game.

HH

5 years ago

Charlie Saiz,
Could you list the distances from goal Leigh was when he scored each goal?

5 years ago

” We did everything we could to bring John McGinn to Celtic Park, he simply chose Aston Villa over Celtic ” – Lawwell.

Q. Two of, 1) Could you tell the Celtic supporters WHEN & at what stage did you enter the initial effort to sign John McGinn?

2) What was Celtic’s bid for John McGinn, the opening offer & was this bid before or after Aston Villa had the player in the midlands?

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